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Speaker 1: Together do for ce Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Today's the first day of a fortnight in which NCEEA

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Speaker 2: pupils across the country are expected to sit there new

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Speaker 2: literacy and numerous the exams, but poured her to a

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Speaker 2: college's principles, pupils rather won't be The school is canceled

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Speaker 2: the literacy exams because the kids aren't prepared. Put it

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Speaker 2: to a principal. Ragna Maxwell is with us. Now, Hey, hello, Cura,

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Speaker 2: why aren't your students ready to sit the tests?

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Speaker 1: There's just too much going on at the moment. They've

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Speaker 1: got internals in all their subjects. They a number of

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Speaker 1: those internals are now being marked externally and being set

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Speaker 1: in exam conditions in school, so they're having like exams

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Speaker 1: are gone for five periods during a week. Essentially, they've

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Speaker 1: got the numerous sea test happening and they're just getting

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Speaker 1: into absolute overload.

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Speaker 2: But if other kids around the country can do it,

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Speaker 2: why can't yours?

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Speaker 1: Well, the question is what chance is success to people have.

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Speaker 1: We're already seeing, you know, almost half of the country

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Speaker 1: failing these tests, so actually they can't manage the tests

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Speaker 1: even at other times when they're less pressured. We are

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Speaker 1: asked to put the students in for assessments when we

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Speaker 1: feel they have a realistic chance of success. We don't

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Speaker 1: think this is that Is.

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Speaker 2: It the right thing to cancel or is it the

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Speaker 2: right thing actually to get the kids ready for it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you know what I mean? It feels

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Speaker 2: slightly defeatist.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not defeatists at all, because this is not

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Speaker 1: the only way the students can get literacy. They can

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Speaker 1: also get literacy through internal standards, and so that is

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Speaker 1: a much more likely way for many of them to

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Speaker 1: get it. And as we give them a bit more

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Speaker 1: time to finish completing their internals, far fewer of them

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Speaker 1: will even need to give the tests to go.

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Speaker 2: Will they be ready when these tests are compulsory in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six?

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to have all of

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Speaker 1: our students ready to prove that they are literate in

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Speaker 1: a high stakes examination environment. That has always been a situation.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of people who do not perform in

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Speaker 1: tests but who are illiterate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ragna, thank you very much, really appreciated this Rugno Maxwell,

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Speaker 2: who is the porta do a college principle?

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