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Speaker 2: The classroom scrap over unregistered teachers as relievers, we got

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Speaker 3: Down to the clops have shown up.

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Speaker 2: We got the ev problem, the places of wash at

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Speaker 2: the moment with cars that Malone wants to buy. Lads

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Speaker 2: Will they.

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Speaker 3: Line it up as well?

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Speaker 2: Posky, Welcome to the week seven past six. The media

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Speaker 2: love a good bit of government department advice.

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Speaker 3: If you noticed that.

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Speaker 2: The latest is that school lunches were working well and

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Speaker 2: the government knew it when it cut them back. The

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Speaker 2: inferences the government, of course, I beg meanis who took

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Speaker 2: little kid sandwiches away? Small point. Our lunches were merely changed.

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Speaker 2: There are still lunches, They're just different and most importantly cheaper,

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Speaker 2: given we never had the money for them in the

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Speaker 2: first place. But as for government advice, this obsession we

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Speaker 2: have in reporting it has always fascinated me.

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Speaker 3: Is it in part?

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Speaker 2: The media trying to stick it up the government. Does

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Speaker 2: a sport from a faceless wonk or an apartment mean

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Speaker 2: they're right that the government are wrong? Why do we

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Speaker 2: care so much? Why so much coverage of pen pushes

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Speaker 2: in their thoughts? Can a report be simply, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: an alternative view, something to bounce off a minister to

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Speaker 2: has been since this government has been in power, a

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Speaker 2: concerted amount of coverage involving a large number of reports

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Speaker 2: that essentially point out that spending vast sums of money

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Speaker 2: is somehow leading to outcomes that we liked and we

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Speaker 2: don't want to be changed. School lunches are the responsibility,

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Speaker 2: dare I suggest of parents, So when the last government

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Speaker 2: So they only gave food to some people, and those

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Speaker 2: who wanted it didn't actually get what they wanted. They

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Speaker 2: got it for everyone in the school, even though the

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Speaker 2: school didn't actually need it. How you write a report

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Speaker 2: that says that that's a good thing, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The lesson I think from the last government's fiscal large

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Speaker 2: there are groups of New Zealanders who, no matter what

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Speaker 2: the economic damage will be, are happy to take free stuff.

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Speaker 2: They will justify it, they will defend it, and they'll

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Speaker 2: want even more of it. In other words, there is

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Speaker 2: no end to the demand for freebes warranted or not,

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Speaker 2: since the school un't change outside of Friday's winge from

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Speaker 2: government officials. You know what, I haven't actually heard a complaint.

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Speaker 2: Could it be it's worked and it saved money. Is

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Speaker 4: Who news of the world in ninety seconds?

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Speaker 2: Com I maybe over in Europe, but the migrant shambles. There's'

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Speaker 2: another weekend, Another eight deaths on the journey from France

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Speaker 5: Just yesterday, eight crossing attempts were thwarted and more than

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Speaker 5: two hundred migrants were rescued at sea. Driven by profit,

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Speaker 5: human traffickers are putting more and more lives at rescue,

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Speaker 5: selling crossings in dangerous conditions on unseaworthy boats.

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Speaker 2: Are those who had to see each time to do

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Speaker 6: The HM Coastguard has a statutory function to respond to

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Speaker 2: So the pressure is once again on the Foreign Secretary.

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Speaker 7: In the end, we have to smash the gangs. You

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Speaker 7: can only do that with working with our closest neighbors

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Speaker 2: In the wars and long range missiles are the talk

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Speaker 2: of both who you have launched against Israel, which has

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Speaker 8: We're just living on borron term here at home, and

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Speaker 8: Israel may have to strike to prevent a nucle armed

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Speaker 2: So the Ukrainians, who got nothing out of Biden's Starmer

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Speaker 9: We cannot defend our territorial antivity if our hands are

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Speaker 9: This restriction not to use song range missiles on Russian

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Speaker 2: Indeed, then I'm britten a brewing scrap over the UK

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Speaker 2: hosting the Euros. It's a football in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: So Starmer wants a football regulator. The Europeans don't like that,

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Speaker 10: This is quite expected. I believe this is a sort

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Speaker 2: Finally, you might have heard about the Mega landslide over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. For the first time ever, it has caused

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Speaker 2: Greenland when at one point two Kilimana high mountain peak

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Speaker 3: So that's something new for you.

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Speaker 2: To use the world in ninety seconds by the way,

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Speaker 2: three thirty in the morning. Their time, five day Polaris

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Speaker 2: Dawn flight, fifth private mission for SpaceX, most ambitious yet

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Speaker 3: So Elon seems to be on a bit of a roll.

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Speaker 2: But one of us trucks did blow up, and I'll

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Speaker 3: Twelve minutes past six.

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Speaker 2: A b bit a poll action for you stagside Harris

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Speaker 2: Greg Smith Morning, the big week. You got the Fed

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Speaker 11: Certainly have It was a big week and investors are

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Speaker 3: The way clear for the Fed cut rates this week.

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Speaker 11: You've also got the labor market calling looks like it's

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Speaker 11: going to be a close call with a twenty five

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Speaker 11: So markets are pricing around one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 3: So that's all pretty good.

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Speaker 11: Interestingly, Consumer said that is a little bit of uncertainty

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Speaker 11: So yeah, definitely gonna get that rate cup. Mike questions

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so we're still awaiting the post pandemic recovery the year.

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Speaker 11: It's obviously very important to us being the largest customer,

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Speaker 2: Oh so our manufacturing I see a rise of one

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Speaker 2: point four but we're still in contraction. So good, all bad,

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Speaker 2: half full or half well.

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Speaker 11: Incremental improvements, and that was how the report was tired

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Speaker 11: from Business News informance of manufacturing. Yes, things are still

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Speaker 11: in contraction. They've been that way for eighteen months from

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Speaker 11: So next came in forty five point in August. That

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Speaker 11: still in contraction territory and quite a way below the

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Speaker 11: long term average of fifty two point six. But the

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Speaker 11: PMI is heading in the right direction. Production new orders,

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Speaker 11: they were the strongest I've been in months.

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Speaker 11: Employments also recovered as well, but you look at the

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Speaker 11: the curve, comments still quite negative a road about sixty

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Speaker 2: And on related matters, we found the source of the

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Speaker 2: They then look at the alleged videos of pets being eaten.

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Speaker 2: don't feature Haitians and have been sent to a bloke

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Speaker 14: I've been trying to talk about the problems in Springfield

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Speaker 4: Talking about cat memes.

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Speaker 14: Stories so that the American media actually pays attention to

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Speaker 14: the suffering of the American people. Then that's what I'm

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Speaker 14: gonna do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala

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Speaker 4: You just said that you're creating the public policy.

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Speaker 15: Sorry, you just said that you're creating the story.

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Speaker 11: Is that, Dana?

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Speaker 16: You just said that this is a story that you created,

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Speaker 16: so that the eating dogs is not.

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Speaker 3: We are creating.

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Speaker 14: I say that we're creating a story, meaning we're creating

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Speaker 14: the American media focusing on it. I didn't create twenty

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Speaker 14: thousand illegal migrants coming into Springfield thanks to Kamala Harris's policies.

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Speaker 4: Her policies did that.

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Speaker 14: But yes, we created the actual focus that allowed the

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Speaker 2: Focus or making up stories, which is what I was

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Speaker 2: trying to say on Friday. Fifty six to fifty seven

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Speaker 2: That's actually the story, and so, as I also suggested Friday, Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: Now we've got some problems in the classrooms of New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Apparently we don't like unregistered relievers. The Education Minister will

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Speaker 2: They reports coming through there have been gunshots quote unquote

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Speaker 2: top of that and if there's anything more to report,

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Speaker 3: Then we're getting the business of registered filling teachers. And

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Speaker 3: it's always the unions, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: But what is it we can do short of handing

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Speaker 2: Up to seven o'clock meantime, we find out this morning

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Speaker 2: more of us are suffering.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, it was seven hundred thousand of US,

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Speaker 2: Boss Letitia Harding's back, Well, this is Letitia morning.

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Speaker 2: Now, part of that will be the population sizes and

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Speaker 17: And also, you know, with the asset and appearance, we

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Speaker 2: Well, that's true. These are robust numbers. We're confident of

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Speaker 2: where do we get the eight and a half billion

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so that's looking at all sorts of different factors

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Speaker 17: Then you're also looking at school days lost for respiratory

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Speaker 2: So how much of these things that we can literally

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think for us, what's been what we pair

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Speaker 18: Over the years exactly.

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Speaker 2: more than Key Starmer's approval rating is plunged. Not surprisingly,

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Speaker 2: I had to comment on one a magical weekend. We

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Speaker 2: had V eights if one Indy cars this morning. Some

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Speaker 2: fantastic racing, but the cherry on the top had to

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Speaker 2: be grand to as one for the road. What a

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Speaker 2: brilliant piece of television cinematography, second to none, nostalgic entertaining

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Speaker 2: with some very poignant moments with the three realizing it

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Speaker 2: was the end of twenty two years of a unique relationship.

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Speaker 2: Would recommend to everyone to watch, even non car people,

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Speaker 2: just for the beautiful scenes of the Zimbabwe landscape. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: John six forty.

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Speaker 12: Five International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 12: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Great tide, Richard Arnold, good morning, good Wing, Make Cats

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Speaker 2: and Dogs.

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Speaker 3: And blind right.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, we have only a statement from the Trump campaign

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Speaker 19: on the latest development. You just mentioned that there were

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Speaker 19: gunshots fired within the vicinity of the former president in Florida.

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Speaker 3: He was just leaving his Florida golf course.

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Speaker 19: Secret Service said to be responding. Of course, we have

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Speaker 19: learned much about the botched Secret Service security at the

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Speaker 19: July thirteenth event in Pennsylvania, haven't we where Donald Trump's

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Speaker 19: e was grazed by a bullet and a Trump audience

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Speaker 19: member was killed. Meantime, another bomb threat has been delivered

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Speaker 19: in a small town of Springfield in Ohio, has forced

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Speaker 19: the town's two hospitals to shut down, while some government

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Speaker 19: buildings and two elementary schools also were evacuated. All this

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Speaker 19: leading city officials in the town to call on the

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Speaker 19: leading politicians to stop these wild and baseless claims about

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Speaker 19: Haitian immigrants eating dogs and cats. To claim that the Trump,

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Speaker 19: of course raised in the presidential debate after his running

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Speaker 19: mate j. D. Vance spoke of Ohio Governor Mike DeWine says,

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Speaker 19: all this eating dogs and cat stuff is quote a

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Speaker 19: piece of garbage, simply not true. He said a short

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Speaker 19: time ago.

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Speaker 20: These discussions about Haitians eating dogs and cats.

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Speaker 4: And other things and needs to start well.

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Speaker 19: Trump has been repeating all of this out on the campaign,

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Speaker 19: and he said of the bomb threats in Springfield.

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Speaker 15: I don't know what happened with the bomb threats.

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Speaker 3: Bomb threats? What bomb threats?

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Speaker 19: While his deputy JD. E. Vance was all over the

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Speaker 19: TV talk shows today, including CNN whereas you've been hearing,

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Speaker 19: he doubled down Trump style and called the host Dana

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Speaker 19: Basher's questions disgusting and spoke of her as being a

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Speaker 19: democratic propagandas quote unquote, they spent many, many minutes attacking

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Speaker 19: each other. And here's just a teeny part of it.

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Speaker 15: I agree.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to talk about policy.

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Speaker 17: Now what I want to talk about?

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Speaker 21: What I want to talk.

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Speaker 4: About instead of about the fact.

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Speaker 19: Senator, it was.

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Speaker 6: Your distraction if you were the one who started talking

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Speaker 6: about the East Stars.

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Speaker 19: And on and on went. That led to the follow

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Speaker 19: on interviewee Pennsylvania's Democratic Governor Josh Shapiro.

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Speaker 4: Remarking this that was Bonker's Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Not.

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Speaker 19: The only unusual thing is his campaign seems to be

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Speaker 19: on the skids. The former president invited a nine to

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Speaker 19: eleven conspiracy theorist to the nine to eleven memorial at

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Speaker 19: Ground Zero as you know last week, drawing criticism from

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Speaker 19: a number of Republicans. She called the attacks quote an

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Speaker 19: inside job, and flu to the event on Trump's plane

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Speaker 19: and spent a deal of time with him. Later, Trump

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Speaker 19: claims no knowledge of her racist, sexist, conspiratorial rants on

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Speaker 19: x where Elon Musk had reinstated her, or her description

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Speaker 19: of Islam as a quote cancer, while Trump himself was

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Speaker 19: fixed on other issues of our time, issues of moment,

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Speaker 19: writing on his social media site in all caps that

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Speaker 19: he hates Taylor Swift and.

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Speaker 2: We got the nine to eleven responder speaking for the

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Speaker 2: first time.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, boy, this is a moving story. Speaking of September

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Speaker 19: the eleventh, Kevin Shaffer saw the attacks in the World

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Speaker 19: Trade Center from a Pentagon command site. Then, of course,

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Speaker 19: the Pentagon was hid, and Shaffer was right in the

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Speaker 19: line of attack. He says the blast set him on fire,

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Speaker 19: and around him were the bodies of all those from

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Speaker 19: the plane and of one hundred and twenty five others

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Speaker 19: who were killed inside the Pentagon itself on that day.

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Speaker 19: Shaffer says he struggled to move and clawed his way

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Speaker 19: out in the darkness, where he found a sergeant who

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Speaker 19: was alive, and he cried out to this and for help.

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Speaker 19: He says, his injuries were extensive.

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Speaker 23: The pain of the burns was beyond description. They I

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Speaker 23: likened them to the color of white and white hot

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Speaker 23: pain is really the only way to describe it.

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Speaker 19: Well, almost half of his body was severely burned, and

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Speaker 19: that included some internal organs which were treated eventually by

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Speaker 19: experimental methods.

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Speaker 23: They really had to introduce some novel techniques to break

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Speaker 23: down the infection of my lungs and fight them off with.

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Speaker 23: But they essentially used live maggots that they had bred

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Speaker 23: in laboratories to be sterile to eat the infections off my.

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Speaker 19: Arms, novel maggots to eat the deadly bacteria. That's pretty

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Speaker 19: remarkable stuff. Somehow he came through it all, and he

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Speaker 19: joined the CIA and wound up in the very small

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Speaker 19: unit that actually tracked down a summer bin Lada. He

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Speaker 19: and his mates watched the assault on the bin Laden

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Speaker 19: compound in the same way that we saw in those

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Speaker 19: famous photos of then President Obama and his team watching.

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Speaker 19: He saw bin Laden's body being taken out, and when

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Speaker 19: he got home that night, he sat with his wife

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Speaker 19: to hear the presidential announcements.

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Speaker 23: She was on my hand and we didn't say a word.

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Speaker 15: No words.

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Speaker 19: Kevin schaff has been laden.

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Speaker 3: Sago reached full circle.

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Speaker 2: So he went so mate preshued at Richard Arnold Stateside.

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Speaker 2: Just I alluded to the Tesla semi crash. They've been investigating.

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Speaker 2: This happened back in twenty seventeen. So when I say

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Speaker 2: a semi, a big truck, So it's a Tesla battery truck.

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Speaker 2: So the National Transportation Safety Board has been investigating the

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Speaker 2: cause of this particular crash and more importantly fire for

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Speaker 2: a number of years, and they released their report over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Anyway, the fire closed a major artary of

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Speaker 2: California's into State eighty for fifteen hours because when evs

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Speaker 2: blow up and burn, they burn big time, and the

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Speaker 2: first responders cal Fire used fifty thousand gallons of water

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Speaker 2: over fifteen hours to put this thing out. The only

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Speaker 2: other ironic thing was the company's battery factory is in

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Speaker 2: a place called Sparks.

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Speaker 3: In Nevada. Turn Away from seven.

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Speaker 4: Costing Breakfast with Beailey's real Estate, A.

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Speaker 2: Couple of things to make yourself feel good about life.

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Speaker 2: The Auckland Downtown crime the government was sprewking yesterday. They've

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Speaker 2: got that largely under control. There's a very nice story

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Speaker 2: about Madihal but Grammar this morning. The phone ban is working.

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Speaker 2: There's a change in culture and schools in this country.

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Speaker 2: And then we get the US News and World Report

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Speaker 2: on the ten best countries for a comfortable retirement. So

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Speaker 2: they looked at eighty nine different countries and seven attributes.

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Speaker 3: What do they look at?

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Speaker 2: Where they looked at the affordability, They looked at a

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Speaker 2: favorable tax environment, was it friendly a place where I

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Speaker 2: could live? And did it have a pleasant climate, respect

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Speaker 2: for property rights, well developed public health systems. So they

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Speaker 2: looked at all of those things that they came up

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Speaker 2: with ten best places in the world to retire. We

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Speaker 2: always go ten through one because it's super exciting that way.

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Speaker 2: Tenth best place in the world to retires Luxembourg. Ninth

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Speaker 2: is Sweden. The Netherlands come in at eight, seven as Denmark,

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Speaker 2: six as Canada, five is Spain, four is Australia, Three

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Speaker 2: is Portugal. Oh it's getting exciting, isn't it. Isn't it

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Speaker 2: getting exciting? Number one is Switzerland. Aren't we miss out?

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Speaker 2: But we're number two? Second best place in the world

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Speaker 2: for a comfortable retire If I'd asked you that before

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Speaker 2: I gave you the results, would you have said that, no,

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Speaker 2: you would not five away from seven for the ins

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Speaker 2: and the outs.

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Speaker 4: It's the fizz with business fiber. Take your business productivity

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Speaker 4: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: There is the value of the outside looking in.

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Speaker 2: You see grass is always green and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. This is the week we get another reader

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Speaker 2: on our economy. Thursday morning, GDP figures released for the

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Speaker 2: June quarter, that's Q two April, May and June. The

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Speaker 2: economists what are they saying? Well, the majority say we

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Speaker 2: can expect what they call this rolling mall recession to continue.

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Speaker 2: One quarter of flat or slightly negative growth has merged

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Speaker 2: seamlessly into another. So Westpac they're predicting a drop of

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Speaker 2: zero point four for Q two for the zero point

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Speaker 2: two percent increase the Q one Here wee banks say

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Speaker 2: they're in for zero point four down as well ASB

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Speaker 2: forecasting a drop of zero point three, A and Z

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Speaker 2: positively upbeat. They're predicting just the backwards movement of zero

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Speaker 2: point one. Bear in mind, this is better than what

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank were predicting in their August monetary policy statement,

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Speaker 2: they say we're likely the head towards zero point five

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Speaker 2: for Q two. So the question is, and this is

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Speaker 2: the important part, because it's only part of the picture.

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Speaker 2: If Q two goes backwards, which it almost certainly will,

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Speaker 2: you then ask yourself, well, what about this present point

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Speaker 2: in time, this Q three that were in July, August

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Speaker 2: and September. Are these last three months any better than

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Speaker 2: the previous three months in Q two? And the answer,

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Speaker 2: of course to that is no. So at that point

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Speaker 2: you've got two quarters in a row of negative growth,

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Speaker 2: and that, my friends, is called a recession. Another one

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Speaker 2: that means we will have been in recession three separate

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Speaker 2: times in two years.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 2: This morning's task, if you're not going to school because

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Speaker 2: you've been roster at home because there are no teachers,

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Speaker 2: is to look up how many countries in the world

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Speaker 2: are there that we would even remotely compare ourselves to

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Speaker 2: that have had three recessions in two years? And I

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Speaker 2: can fairly confidently tell you that, having done a little

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Speaker 2: bit of that work myself, there are none. So in

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Speaker 2: other words, we are singularly the most economically inept country

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Speaker 2: on the planet in terms of countries that we would

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Speaker 2: compare ourselves to. No one has managed to do what

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Speaker 2: we have done economically, Thanks very much Labour twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: through twenty twenty three. And then we get to the teachers,

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Speaker 2: all of whom are gone home sick. Anyone's got kids

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Speaker 2: knows this. The number of times your kid spends in

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Speaker 2: front of a reliever seems unbelievably abnormal, to the point

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Speaker 2: where you ask, as we have at our house many times,

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Speaker 2: does anyone turn up to school at all? Erica Stamford,

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Speaker 2: the Minister of Education, on this after the News, which

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Speaker 2: is next.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show You can trust the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news togs EDB.

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Speaker 2: Morning seven past seven. Just a update you on the

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Speaker 2: Trump situation. On his golf course. He was on the

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Speaker 2: fifth hole with the playing partner. They heard the pop

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Speaker 2: pop pop of some guns. Turns out it's an AK

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Speaker 2: forty seven Secret Service. We're on it with drone. They've

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Speaker 2: got a car, they've surrounded the car, they've found the gun.

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Speaker 2: They don't know if anyone's in the car because there

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Speaker 2: was a gap in time between when the gunshots were

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Speaker 2: heard and when they worked out the car might mean something.

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Speaker 2: So they've got the car surround it. At the moment,

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Speaker 2: they don't know if anybody's in it. Everybody's safe, but

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Speaker 2: that's where we're at currently. Now back out, we'll keep

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Speaker 2: you in touch. Obviously, more trouble in our classrooms. Government's

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Speaker 2: moving to all our unregistered teachers to relieve classes. Unions

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Speaker 2: don't like it, of course. The claim is classroom is

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Speaker 2: going to be flooded by teachers not across the curriculum.

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Speaker 2: The Minister is Eric at Stanford, who's with us. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: good aim. From personal experience, the amount of time that

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Speaker 2: kids sprend in front of believers is insane. What's the

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Speaker 2: problem in the education system. Teachers get sick or we

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Speaker 2: don't have enough teachers.

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Speaker 16: What we're experiencing at the moment is a huge increase

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Speaker 16: in teacher sickness. It's compounded with teacher release time that

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Speaker 16: there's more of and also teaches out in the classrooms

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Speaker 16: through professional learning and development. And so we've seen us

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Speaker 16: here a mass of spike and the need for reliever teachers.

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Speaker 16: We have more reliever teachers, but we've seen a huge

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Speaker 16: spike and demand for them. And the problem we've got

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Speaker 16: this is a whole lot of great ex teachers out

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Speaker 16: there have recently retired or recently left, have a baby

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Speaker 16: who we want to get back in the classroom, and

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Speaker 16: that that's what these changes are all about.

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Speaker 3: How could the union subject to that?

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Speaker 2: Have you were once a teacher, The fact you're no

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Speaker 2: longer registered doesn't make you not a teacher anymore, does it.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's surprising from the unions. Chris Abercrombie is a

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Speaker 16: smart guy. We get on quite well. I don't know

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Speaker 16: why he's letting the truth get in the way of

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Speaker 16: a good story this time. I mean, you're exactly right.

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Speaker 16: There are a whole bunch of incredible teachers out there

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Speaker 16: that don't forget how to teach. And actually, when we've

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Speaker 16: got a real need right now, we've got Arewa College,

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Speaker 16: We've got other colleges who are rostering home kids because

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Speaker 16: that's the alternative, like we roster home kids, or we

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Speaker 16: say hey, if you've been a teacher in the past

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Speaker 16: in the last few years, come back, will pay your registration,

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Speaker 16: will pay you to be a limited ability to teach teacher.

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Speaker 16: Come back into the classroom and help relieve us so

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Speaker 16: that we can have these kids.

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Speaker 3: In class Is it a solution? Do they want to

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Speaker 3: do it? Do we know or not?

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Speaker 16: Well, we know because I've been traveling around the country

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Speaker 16: and I've been talking to teacher associations all over the country.

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Speaker 16: I was down and a cargo just the other day,

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Speaker 16: amazing principles down there. They said to me, Erica, We've

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Speaker 16: got a whole bunch of great teachers out there.

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Speaker 17: Ex teachers.

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Speaker 16: It's too expensive for them to come back, it's too cumbersome.

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Speaker 16: They don't want to do all the teacher of fresher courses,

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Speaker 16: which I worry that there's limited value.

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Speaker 24: In those as well.

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Speaker 16: We just want to get them back in the classroom.

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Speaker 16: And you need to trust us, by the way, mister Stanford,

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Speaker 16: to get these guys back in the classroom, the ones

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Speaker 16: that are excellent, previous teachers, and I do trust them.

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Speaker 2: Your original answer about the illness the time out of

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Speaker 2: the classroom, is there something profoundly wrong with the system

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Speaker 2: in itself that teachers aren't in front of the students

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Speaker 2: more often or not.

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Speaker 16: Well, the primary school teachers are out of the classroom

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Speaker 16: more on classroom release time. That was negotiated by the unions,

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Speaker 16: and of course that's their means. We need more relievers

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Speaker 16: to cover them. And the more relievers we have relieving

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Speaker 16: more than we suddenly need relievers for the relievers once

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Speaker 16: they get to about point eight the teachers, so it's

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Speaker 16: compounding on us and plus what we didn't expect this

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Speaker 16: here is these massive increased levels of sickness. So it

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Speaker 16: is an issue. But as I've always said, I can't

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Speaker 16: managic cup teachers overnight. It takes me what three four

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Speaker 16: years to train them. This is a short term solution

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Speaker 16: while we work with the Teaching Council to work on

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Speaker 16: a more longer term solution, which we're looking at a

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Speaker 16: reliever teacher special registration to make it cheaper, easier and

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Speaker 16: faster than Back in the country.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming you're up this morning with the Mount Albert

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Speaker 2: Grammer coverage. The principal says the phone banned different subjects,

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Speaker 2: same broad area. They've noticed a quote significant shift in

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Speaker 2: culture since banning cell phones, so that's a win.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we're seeing that all over the country. I mean,

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Speaker 16: there was a little bit of grumbling from especially kids

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Speaker 16: like my daughter straight away that actually we're seeing really

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Speaker 16: positive results from all of the principles I teach to

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Speaker 16: and actually interestingly the kids as well. And the biggest difference,

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Speaker 16: as we know from research is our low sociosomic girls

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Speaker 16: and their mental health and that's a massive one.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, appreciate time America stand for the Minister of Education.

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Speaker 2: By the way, David Seymoura done if you pick this

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Speaker 2: up on Friday. I don't know why I waited for

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Speaker 2: a Friday to launch it, because I got buried over

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Speaker 2: the weekend. The allegation is teachers and nicking sandwiches from

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Speaker 2: kids in the school lunches, and he wants an investigation.

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Speaker 2: Teachers are stealing the sandwiches.

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Speaker 3: It's eleven past seven, as skagging a lot of this

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 2: The unions and Nzei Michael the biggest impairment progressive education

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Speaker 2: in this country, I tend to agree. More good news

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Speaker 2: are downtown Auckland crime levels dropping first half of the year.

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Speaker 2: We find out serious assaults a down twenty two percent.

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Speaker 2: The Police Association regional director Murray Fenton's with us Murray morning,

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Speaker 2: my own am I OK this morning very well, indeed,

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Speaker 2: thank you. How much is this simply about an increased presence,

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Speaker 2: you put more cops on the streets. This is what

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Speaker 2: happens versus the coordination that I'm reading about between the

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Speaker 2: various agencies who are now helping out.

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Speaker 15: Look.

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Speaker 18: I mean, the increased presence has setting made a huge difference.

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Speaker 18: And around the streets, I mean, the exposure I gets

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Speaker 18: to visitors withiny Zeland has been huge. Incenesters that is

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Speaker 18: coming into the country. We've seen some great responses from

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Speaker 18: people that were interacting Muhammed daily basis good.

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Speaker 2: Can you see it and feel it when you're downtown

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Speaker 2: Aakland for people listening to this around the country, can

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Speaker 2: you actually see it?

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Speaker 25: Oh?

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Speaker 18: Absolutely, It's really reassuring to be walking around the street.

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Speaker 18: I'm actually working that beat section at the moment in

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Speaker 18: the city. I'm over there for about six months, and

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Speaker 18: it's really refreshing. It's really exciting because our international visit

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Speaker 18: is coming up to us. When we're walking around the streets,

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Speaker 18: our local people are business people, our retailers. We're getting

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Speaker 18: support from so many different types of people, you know,

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Speaker 18: from teenagers right the way through the etherly people, the

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Speaker 18: inner city people, that dwelling city, even some of the

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Speaker 18: homeless people are giving us some really good feedback in

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Speaker 18: relation to the way in which our presence has actually

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Speaker 18: termed and realized aroun in the way in which we've

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Speaker 18: assisted them in an alternative to the city life doyles

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Speaker 18: they've had.

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Speaker 4: In the past.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, So Win Wilder, Murray appreciate very much. Murray Fenton,

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Speaker 2: who's the Police Association regional director. It's thirteen minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: ask why can you have Hipkins and Robinson on again

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Speaker 2: and hold them to account for the consequences of their

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Speaker 2: debt and spend that we're all paying for now? Hipkins,

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Speaker 2: who believes more tax and borrowing, excuse me as the

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Speaker 2: answer to the recession as government caused. It's extraordinary, isn't No.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to have them on because you know

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Speaker 2: what they'd say. There was no rule book, there was

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Speaker 2: no playbook. Then we come to what Peter dunewright over

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Speaker 2: the weekend, which is well worth talking about, which we

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Speaker 2: will after seven thirty. Mike, why do we wait so long?

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Speaker 2: Very good question, It's asked every time, and I've got

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Speaker 2: the answer. Why do we wait so long for the

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Speaker 2: June GDP figures it's like being back at school in

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Speaker 2: a history lesson it's so true.

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Speaker 3: And the answer is the Stats department. They don't have

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Speaker 3: the resource.

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Speaker 2: Most countries around the world put out one a monthly figure,

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Speaker 2: and by putting out a monthly figure two you much

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Speaker 2: more up to date than we are. So we it's

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Speaker 2: all retrospective and it's nothing. And I talked to Grant

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Speaker 2: Robinson about it many many times. If you're a regularly

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Speaker 2: you would have heard me ask and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not a bad point. We must do something about that.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't obviously, and so we have to wait.

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Speaker 2: But all it is is resource more people than stats

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Speaker 2: could solve.

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Speaker 4: Can we not?

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Speaker 3: I don't know the lotto computer or something to it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At be Mike, surely if someone is a teacher, the

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Speaker 2: government now pays for the registration, then they're now a

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Speaker 2: teacher again makes sense, short term mess, It does perfectly sensible,

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Speaker 2: and that's what the minister was trying to explain, Mike.

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Speaker 2: So the new school lunch menus must be good of

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Speaker 2: the teachers and nicking them, and we've saved hundreds of

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Speaker 2: thousands of.

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Speaker 3: Dollars as well. Very good point.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen past seven, right, new stats on our EV market

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Speaker 2: the show they can barely give them away these days.

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Speaker 2: News figures suggest this year just one and eleven cars

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Speaker 2: are electric. That includes hybrids. By the way, which I'll

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Speaker 2: get to this is left important stuck with a lot

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Speaker 2: of stock. They can't move, the important motor vehicle industry

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Speaker 2: boss Greg EPs as well. There's Greg morning to you.

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Speaker 25: I think, Mike, how's it go?

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Speaker 15: Very well?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the car market generally versus the EV market specifically,

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Speaker 2: can we differentiate the two out or not?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 19: This year?

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Speaker 25: No, not really, Mike, it's been it's been pretty hard

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Speaker 25: across the board. Ought to have been down this year.

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Speaker 25: They're down from from last year, and a lot of

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Speaker 25: a lot of the guys in the industry are really

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Speaker 25: just hanging on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lack of difference. This is my bug bear

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Speaker 2: because I'm a car guy. So when I see reportage

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Speaker 2: of the so called electric vehicles electric to me as

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Speaker 2: a BEV. Everything else is a hybrid, and they've got

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Speaker 2: to be delineated out, don't they, because a hybrid is

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Speaker 2: a completely different experience from a BEV, isn't it?

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Speaker 22: It?

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Speaker 25: Is what the government's done is they've they've said anything

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Speaker 25: that plugs in. So you have your beds, as you say,

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Speaker 25: your battery electrics, and then you've got your plug in hybrid,

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Speaker 25: see the ones that have both the petrol engine and

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Speaker 25: and a battery. And then you have your petrol hybrid,

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Speaker 25: which is the first self contained system that is just

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Speaker 25: you put petrol of it, but it has the regender battery.

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Speaker 2: Is the plug or the architecture required to plug something in?

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Speaker 3: Is that the hindrance or not.

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Speaker 25: It's it's a bunch of things. I think that the

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Speaker 25: really have put us in a bad spot here. One

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Speaker 25: it's been the economy, it is the infrastructure, it is

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Speaker 25: the cost of putting in. For example, you can do

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Speaker 25: the trickle recharge and just plug into your normal wall socket,

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Speaker 25: but that's that's not really the best way to do it.

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Speaker 25: So people are really encouraged to put in the charging ports,

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Speaker 25: those sorts of things. And then there's just the charging

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Speaker 25: across the country where while that's been built out pretty

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Speaker 25: well over the last few years, where we nowhere near

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Speaker 25: that sort of coverage of charging to make people feel

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Speaker 25: comfortable about using evs all the time.

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Speaker 2: And then we've got the international issue with any number

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Speaker 2: of manufacturers now saying what's we got ahead of ourselves?

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Speaker 2: That sends a message. But I'm sitting there thinking maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe not, and I suddenly see four REVOLVERO whatever, going yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: it's not quite what we thought it was. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to go, oh, well, I won't worry then, aren't I?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, you see everyone, everyone's actually here to hybrids now.

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Speaker 25: About forty three forty five percent of the used imports

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Speaker 25: that we're bringing in this year have been hybrids. Hybrids

882
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Speaker 25: are a really solid technology that've been around. They reduce

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Speaker 25: carbon output by about half of the normal vehicle. And

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Speaker 25: I think EV's just just weren't there. You know, we

885
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Speaker 25: went into EV's there. They're a great solution for the future,

886
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Speaker 25: but the world wasn't ready to supply US evs at

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Speaker 25: a cost that New Zealand could afford.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more well done, Greg, appreciate it very much,

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Speaker 2: Greg epps the FI at five hundred E they paused

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Speaker 2: production of that in Europe. That's the latest announcement from

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Speaker 2: Fiat over the weekend. Stillantis owned Fiat, they can't sell them,

892
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Speaker 2: so they've stopped making them for now, and when they

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Speaker 2: Health asking for when a government has to issue an

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Speaker 2: email directive the way they did on Friday over race,

923
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Speaker 2: there is something profoundly wrong with this country. Essentially, it

924
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Speaker 2: says the public service read health, education, Justice, welfare cannot

925
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Speaker 2: act on race. Cannot see race as an individual entitlement

926
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Speaker 2: that allows services or money or support to be determining

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Speaker 2: by way of a criteria. This is part of the

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Speaker 2: coalition agreements, as indicated by ACT.

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Speaker 3: In New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: First National Party supporters might want to ask why they

931
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Speaker 2: didn't have it as part of their criteria as well.

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Speaker 2: The idea that one race trump's another is absurd. It's unfair.

933
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Speaker 2: It leads nowhere good if you're after good race relations

934
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Speaker 2: and the harmonious existence. Now, the Murray Party called it

935
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Speaker 2: anti Maarri, which shows their level of ignorance. Unless the

936
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Speaker 2: Murray Party argues Murray deserve things that no one else gets,

937
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Speaker 2: and I don't think even they would be that extreme.

938
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Speaker 3: We're all equal. Basically, we are all equal.

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Speaker 2: I've never been able to ascertain why that concept is

940
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Speaker 2: so hard to grasp the fact it's taken the government

941
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Speaker 2: this long to issue the SEJCT must also be of concern.

942
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Speaker 2: David Seymour suggested, it's a complex has it how What

943
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Speaker 2: we also need to be concerned about, as we saw

944
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Speaker 2: last week, is in Hawks Bay pushback. So for a

945
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Speaker 2: so called colorblind public service, we've got nothing of the sort.

946
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Speaker 2: You can't hand out health based on race, and yet

947
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what they were doing. You can't unilaterally invent

948
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Speaker 2: MARI seats at council level, and yet counsels are threatening

949
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: now lawyers in a local body sort of version of

950
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Speaker 2: a tenty because the government's changed the law. Meantime, the

951
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Speaker 2: Waititangage Tribunal continues to pump out findings like confetti race

952
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: unfairly dealt with cripples countries. We have enough to worry

953
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Speaker 2: about these days without something or someone that really is

954
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: so simple to administer. We are all equal, We all

955
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Speaker 2: have equal access to everything, democracy, health, education, and welfare

956
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Speaker 2: need not race. How hard can it be asking will

957
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Speaker 2: a these might become the beta of the beta BHS

958
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Speaker 2: here a good question, Mike kidrive plug in hybrid never

959
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: again as the range is nowhere near The manufacturer claims, yeah,

960
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Speaker 2: but that's the same with petrol if it depends that

961
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Speaker 2: you drive the thing, of course, And of course, what

962
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: it comes down to when I mentioned the at five

963
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Speaker 2: hundred e what it comes down to is hybrids of

964
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Speaker 2: the future, not even necessarily plug in hybrids. Who needs

965
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Speaker 2: the architecture, Well, it's been two or three thousand dollars

966
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Speaker 2: on a bit of architecture in your garage that may

967
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Speaker 2: or may not work. What's the point of that when

968
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 2: you can get a hybrid? And that's why people buy

969
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: hybrids because they save you. It's not about saving the planet.

970
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: They'll save it as and a poll people go, h plutely,

971
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Speaker 2: I want to save the planet, it's very important. Well,

972
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: it's actually about saving fuel. You want to spend less

973
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: money on fuel, and who can blame you? Meantime, in

974
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Speaker 2: a Prius fifth generation Prius, this guy drives from Los

975
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 2: Angeles to New York the other day. He averages ninety

976
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Speaker 2: three point one five eight miles per gallon, ninety three

977
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: breaks the Guinness Book of Records. Not only does he

978
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Speaker 2: break the Guinness Book of Records, he breaks it by

979
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Speaker 2: more than twenty miles per gallon. So that's that's some

980
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: good motoring. Then we come to the workplace law. This

981
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Speaker 2: is the u the thing, this is the angsty gig economy,

982
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: the unions. Once again, we'll talk more about this shortly.

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Speaker 1: Big news fold opinions, the Mic Hosking, Breakfast with Veda,

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Speaker 2: How about the Warriors are not not the team on

986
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: the field because lested about that this particular year the better,

987
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: but their numbers off the field are a little short

988
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: of astonishing. It's one of those rare scenarios whereby they

989
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: published over the weekend, they're numbers for the season that

990
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Speaker 2: a company, a team, an entity that doesn't do that

991
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: well still smashes it for the bottom line, thus leading

992
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Speaker 2: you to ask the question if you're making more as

993
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Speaker 2: much money as you possibly can because they sold out

994
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Speaker 2: and they're the first NRL side to ever sell out

995
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Speaker 2: for the entire season, you can't make any more money

996
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: than selling out unless you charge more for tickets anyway,

997
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Speaker 2: they made history first team ever to sell out completely

998
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Speaker 2: the entire season. Average attendance for the tem home games

999
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Speaker 2: was twenty three, five hundred seventy eight, which is surpassing

1000
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Speaker 2: the team's previous home attendance record. So every single game

1001
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Speaker 2: on average twenty three, five hundred and seventy eight.

1002
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Speaker 3: That's loyalty.

1003
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Speaker 2: Noise levels which I didn't know that they monitored on

1004
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Speaker 2: a regular basis, they regularly exceeded one hundred and ten discibels.

1005
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Speaker 2: That's loud eighty eight percent of the crowd satisfaction through

1006
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Speaker 2: the gates. So even though we went too often to

1007
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Speaker 2: watch them lose, we were still satisfied, which.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's very motivational for the team, is it.

1009
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Speaker 3: No, No, you're just going on. It doesn't matter what

1010
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Speaker 3: they do.

1011
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, we'd love you anyway.

1012
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: It's a record crowd. We had a good time.

1013
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: What was the score? I don't know as much. Well,

1014
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: it's not like you'd bring up your kids that way,

1015
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Speaker 3: is it. I've always told my kids, look perform or

1016
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Speaker 3: you're out.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

1018
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Speaker 2: Exactly thirty four percent of surveyed patrons traveled from outside Auckland.

1019
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Speaker 2: That's a fun stat So a third of the crowd

1020
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Speaker 2: came from outside Auckland. Eighty four percent traveled exclusively for

1021
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Speaker 2: the game. So they're bringing people from outside Auckland for

1022
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: the sole per of going to watch the Warriors. How

1023
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: many other sports that could claim that? I mean once

1024
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Speaker 2: in the years.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's not surprising because of course, you know,

1026
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Speaker 5: once you finish it, now it's smart that you've got.

1027
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Speaker 4: All the nightlife around there.

1028
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's true. I mean, why wouldn't you make a

1029
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Speaker 3: week end of it?

1030
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Speaker 2: Eighty percent of waste diverted from landfill equating to forty

1031
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Speaker 2: thousand CAGs.

1032
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Speaker 3: I mean it's made up stats, Yeah, that's true. Twenty

1033
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: two minutes away from eighteen.

1034
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Speaker 2: Small sport actually in utomicry box after the Andrew sevil

1035
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Speaker 2: go he helped meantime, workplace rules are in for a

1036
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: shake up. Government are looking to change the Employment Relations

1037
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Act to make it easier to to find who's an employee,

1038
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Speaker 2: who's a contractor. Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Book van

1039
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Speaker 2: Bulden is with.

1040
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Speaker 3: Us on all of this. Very good morning to you.

1041
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Speaker 26: Good morning mate.

1042
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: What's the time frame on this, because you're on the

1043
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: program a couple of weeks ago and ask you the

1044
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: same question. You're being all coy about it. Then, so

1045
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: what's what's changed and what's the timeframe?

1046
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 26: Well, to see what this government has permitted to the

1047
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 26: Coalition agreement is to provide more certainty for contractors and

1048
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 26: employees about the distinction between contract arrangements. So we're clarifying

1049
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 26: that under the law to provide a new gateway test

1050
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 26: which says if you meet for criteria, then you will

1051
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Speaker 26: be found as a individual contractor. So that means if

1052
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 26: you've got a written agreement where it says written down

1053
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Speaker 26: that you are an independent contractor and that's the relationship

1054
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 26: that you can work for other people and have other

1055
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Speaker 26: agreements that you don't have set hours, or if there

1056
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Speaker 26: are set hours, that you can subcontract out and your

1057
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Speaker 26: contract not going to be terminated because you don't want

1058
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Speaker 26: to take on an extra task outside of it. Now

1059
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 26: a business and a worker can meet all of those requirements,

1060
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Speaker 26: then that's an independent contractor relationship above and beyond what's

1061
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 26: in the current law. So what this does is it

1062
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 26: provides a better clarity for everybody. So that's better for all.

1063
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 26: Kiwis when I'm hoping to get this through, I'm hoping

1064
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 26: to get this law into parliaments next year.

1065
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so does the law not do that with the

1066
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: level of clarity you're happy with? And or is this

1067
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: tied up with the uber situation? And or will this

1068
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: new law with its new clarity necessarily mean that people

1069
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Speaker 2: still don't go to court to try it on.

1070
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Speaker 26: Well, we know, we know there are a range of

1071
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 26: businesses and workers who don't know whether or not they

1072
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 26: are employees or contractors, or they're not sure, so they're

1073
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 26: testing this under the courts because most of this has

1074
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 26: been built through case law over time, so it's not

1075
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Speaker 26: actually clear enough in the law how individual contract arrangements work.

1076
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Speaker 26: So that's what we're here to provide that clarity for.

1077
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 26: Because at the heart of this, we want kiwis and work.

1078
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 26: We want businesses to be providing people with opportunity, and

1079
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 26: we know that when you have a flexible labor market,

1080
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Speaker 26: it has better productivity for everyone. I couldn't but that's

1081
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 26: what we're here to provide for. But we know that

1082
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 26: even with current cases, there's been a lot of uncertainty

1083
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 26: in the business community and business confidence has been really

1084
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Speaker 26: down under the last government. So we here to build

1085
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 26: back business confidence and get more people into work with

1086
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Speaker 26: certain arrangements.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff go well, well, it appreciate it very much.

1088
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Speaker 2: The clearer you make it, the better it is. Brook

1089
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Speaker 2: van Velden, Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety. There's a

1090
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Speaker 2: woman unionist on the news last night who was going,

1091
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Speaker 2: you know, why don't they wait until the courts? And

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Speaker 2: what what's never I've never understood about particularly unionists like

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Speaker 2: that is do they not understand the ultimate court in

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Speaker 2: this country is the government. You can go to court too,

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Speaker 2: you're blue in the face. We're seeing a lot of

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Speaker 2: this with the Waitangi Tribunal, which is not really a court.

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Speaker 3: It's tribunal. It's got no teeth.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, people just wander off thinking that they can

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Speaker 2: because they don't like the law of the day, they'll

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Speaker 2: try and change it. They get some sort of ruling

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Speaker 2: or judgment from the court, interventionist courts these days, and

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Speaker 2: that encourages people, of course. And this Uber case is

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Speaker 2: a classic and if you haven't followed it, do follow

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Speaker 2: it because four drivers are telling the rest of the

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Speaker 2: Yuber workforce that what they like and what they joined

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Speaker 2: isn't good enough and they want it different and it

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Speaker 2: looks like at this point, anyway, Uber's going to appeal.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to appeal, But it looks like

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Speaker 2: at this point, four drivers beats out the hundreds of

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Speaker 2: other drivers who took on an arrangement that they were

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Speaker 2: perfectly happy with because the unions backed them. Free choice

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Speaker 2: A Remember that seventeen minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: It, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 3: That'd be Mike Reequality.

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Speaker 2: And I'm an academic and conservative one who keeps his

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Speaker 2: mouth shut on campus for fear of retribution, and I

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Speaker 2: have to say that some of my colleagues simply no

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Speaker 2: longer believe that everyone in this country should be equal.

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Speaker 2: These academics are so obsessed with decolonizing the country and

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Speaker 2: so obsessed with implementing the Treaty as a strict fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty partnership between twenty percent Maray on one side,

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Speaker 2: eighty percent everyone else on the other, that they're absolutely

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Speaker 2: and got no problem with rejecting the whole idea of

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Speaker 2: equal suffrage, which isn't trying to the New Zealand Bill

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Speaker 2: of Right. This contagion has also affected our politicians. Remember

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Speaker 2: how Willie Jackson tried to sell us a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago that one person, one vote democracy had moved

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Speaker 2: on his very famous line, it was too rigod text

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Probably.

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Speaker 2: I'm just tossing up between the best piece of reading

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Speaker 2: locally I did over the weekend. One was Thomas Coglin's

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Speaker 2: reference to a book. There's a guy from Victoria University

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Speaker 2: Go called Professor Stephen Levine, who puts out a book

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Speaker 2: after each election, and he talks to a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of people and they write a chapter, and the media

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Speaker 2: writes a chapter, and Thomas says he's written a chapter

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Speaker 2: for this particular book, and the leaders write a chapter

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Speaker 2: each Normally, he claims the leader's chapters are really boring

1141
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Speaker 2: because no one wants to open up about what went

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Speaker 2: wrong or what they learned and give away too many secrets.

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Speaker 2: But he found David Seymour's chapter particularly interesting because David

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Speaker 2: Seymour was not happy with the way his campaign went,

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Speaker 2: and he explains how and why it went wrong in

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Speaker 2: his view, and that makes for fascinating reading, essentially in

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Speaker 2: a nutshell. He claims he picked too soon, which was

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Speaker 2: true because I remember talking to.

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Speaker 3: Him at about it.

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Speaker 2: The time there was a poll out had him at

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Speaker 2: eighteen percent, and he didn't believe he was at eighteen

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Speaker 2: percent or anywhere close. But for a while there they

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00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: looked at a very realistic fifteen to sixteen. They ended

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00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: up on the nine at eight and so that's basically

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Speaker 2: because they picked too soon. They burnt support. They were

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Speaker 2: a bit worried about New Zealand first, too worried, as

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Speaker 2: it turns out, about New Zealand first, and they should

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00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: have been worried about the National Party and the boat

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Speaker 2: bleeding from them.

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Speaker 3: So read that it's well worth it.

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Speaker 2: Then you get to Peter Dunn, this is equally good

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Speaker 2: tax and borrow plans will sink labour in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: And what he does brilliantly is go back through history

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Speaker 2: of previous labor governments who have made the same mistake,

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Speaker 2: and they've all ended up the same way. What make

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Speaker 2: Hipkin so, what makes Hipkin's statement that government spending, debt,

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Speaker 2: and taxes will all need to increase under a future

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Speaker 2: labor led government even more extraordinary is that it is

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Speaker 2: precisely what the one term labor governments of the fifties

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Speaker 2: and the seventies did before they were overwhelmingly dispatched to

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Speaker 2: long terms in opposite and so Hipkins not bright enough

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Speaker 2: to read history or understand it. But Peter is so

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Speaker 2: read his piece, and that is why. And I've already

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Speaker 2: said it. You don't need to be a rocket scientist

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Speaker 2: if you're going to much into twenty twenty six. The

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Speaker 2: way Hipkins allegedly seems to want to in an economy

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Speaker 2: against an economy and a government, You've started to see

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Speaker 2: it over the weekend with the things like the crime

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Speaker 2: stats in Auckland. You're starting to see the Mount Albert story.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't read the Mount Albert story, read that

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Speaker 2: one this morning. Mount Albert Grammar. They're seeing a changing

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 2: culture at their school with the phone band. Little bits

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00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: and pieces like that incrementally grow and cement reputations over time.

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Speaker 2: And it's entirely possible that the economy comes right next

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Speaker 2: year and by twenty twenty six it's steaming. So you're

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Speaker 2: going to have a government that's done a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: of stuff. A lot of people like enter Chris Hipkins,

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Speaker 2: who goes, hello, everybody, remember me, I'm here to tax

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Speaker 2: you more with a capital gains at a wealth tax.

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Speaker 2: How do you reckon that's going to go? And when

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Speaker 2: it goes really really really badly and they boot them out,

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Speaker 2: they will be consigned to at least a couple of

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Speaker 2: terms in opposition. And it's all there in the history

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Speaker 2: Boox according to Peter Dunn. So look that up and

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Speaker 2: read it, read it and learn. Ten away from Ete the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vita Retirement Community News togsadv.

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Speaker 3: Mike, I'm an academic at AU.

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Speaker 25: Two.

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Speaker 2: When staff apply for travel, if you have Pacific or

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Speaker 2: Marriy heritage, you get additional points and therefore are more

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Speaker 2: likely to get travel approved. The form is completed even

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Speaker 2: if you have external or externally funded travel. There's no

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Speaker 2: discussion about the ethics of this. We'll follow that up

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Speaker 2: because that's interesting. Seven away from make good news for

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Speaker 2: the tron also dneed and of course the airport's going

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Speaker 2: international again after jetstarstruck a deal to fly Transtasment as

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Speaker 2: of next year. So from Hamilton you're goin to have

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Speaker 2: roots to the Gold Coast in Sydney. It's been fourteen

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Speaker 2: years since Hamilton was international. The airport's CEO, Mark Morgan's

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Speaker 2: with US on this mark very good morning.

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Speaker 27: To you, Good morning Mike, and helps her having me on.

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Speaker 3: Board not at all. How long has this been in

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Speaker 3: the wings?

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Speaker 27: Look, it's really been twelve months, but intensely since about.

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Speaker 24: March this year.

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Speaker 3: Who approaches who?

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Speaker 27: Look for these conversations you often get it's generally the

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Speaker 27: airline that make approaches to the airport companies, although we

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Speaker 27: remain sort of alert and open to opportunities. But in

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Speaker 27: this situation, yes, it was just and.

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Speaker 2: Do you, having been international before, have the capacity I

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Speaker 2: assume you do to become international again?

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Speaker 24: Yet we do.

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Speaker 27: We are all of our aeronautical infrastructure, is there, our

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00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 27: runways long enough, and we have the northern end of

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Speaker 27: the terminal that was the international terminal and that would

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00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 27: be refitted over the next three or four months. So yes,

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Speaker 27: we are ready to go. And there are no issues

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Speaker 27: other than standing of course up the border agencies, and

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Speaker 27: that is all under finalization at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Gold Coast and Sydney only, or Gold Coast in Sydney

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Speaker 2: with a BEW to going somewhere else potentially.

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Speaker 27: Look, I think we would like we see this almost

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Speaker 27: as a beachhead. So that's our approach to this opportunity

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Speaker 27: that it places credibility back into the mighty White Katto,

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Speaker 27: not the tron Mike. And we see this as an

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Speaker 27: opportunity for future activity, whether it be future commercial services.

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Speaker 27: It provides a fail over service for other airports an

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Speaker 27: event of bad weather or runway closures. So generally it

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Speaker 27: just positions us for opportunities that we would not have

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Speaker 27: been able to consider without this current opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Do you see it as viable in the sense that

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Speaker 2: people from Wykatto go presumably to Aukland.

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Speaker 21: That's right.

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Speaker 27: Well, I think there's two aspects. There's exactly that aspect,

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Speaker 27: and we know that getting in and out of Auckland

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Speaker 27: is more challenging than it was. The White Katto is

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Speaker 27: the fastest growing region Hamilton City, so in the last

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Speaker 27: thirteen or fourteen years, the demographics have changed, so that

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Speaker 27: makes it a much more viable proposition. And so we

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Speaker 27: believe that you can't sure a comparison back to seven

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Speaker 27: or fourteen years ago. It is a different time and

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Speaker 27: a unique sort of set of circumstances now that provides

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Speaker 27: this opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Middle of next year go, well, well, it appreciated very much.

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Speaker 2: Mark Morgan, who's the Hamilton Airport's CEO, and one assumes

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Speaker 2: a boon time for to who you are, because surely

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Speaker 2: the first thing you do when your jet start playing

1259
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: Lands and Hamilton is go directly to the train or

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Speaker 2: as I just making that up four minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 2: Mike Act lost our votes when he stated he was

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Speaker 2: willing to give up cabinet positions to New Zealand first,

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Speaker 2: but meant making it into government.

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Speaker 3: Colin's funny.

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Speaker 2: You should say that you clearly haven't read the report,

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00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: and you should because as a potential ACT voter, you're

1267
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 2: a directly effect. That's exactly what happened. So a couple

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Speaker 2: of things that Seymour admits is that when he sort

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00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: of talked tough, his assessment of his talk was that

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Speaker 2: he wanted his supporters to be reassured that Acts stood

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Speaker 2: for something and they could make change, and if they

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Speaker 2: couldn't make change, then they weren't going to be bad.

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Speaker 2: He miscalculated that, admits he miscalculated it because what you've

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Speaker 2: just articulated is exactly what unfold. The people went, We'll

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Speaker 2: hold on here. You know, why would I bother wasting

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Speaker 2: my boat in an MMP environment if I don't know

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Speaker 2: what I'm going to get.

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Speaker 3: So a lot going on in sport.

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Speaker 2: We've got this thing in the the the NPC, this

1280
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: change of rules in round rugby, so we'll have to

1281
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Speaker 2: look at this in the next half hour of the program.

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Speaker 2: Of course we've got the All Blacks coming up this

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Speaker 2: weekend as well.

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Speaker 3: Sport is next.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fuse The Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with the Jaguar f phase cut from a different cloth,

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Speaker 1: newstalks ed ben.

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Speaker 5: It's run runs on fun nights at Rugby Parking and Matago.

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Speaker 23: Terrific when for red and black, convincing when in the

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Speaker 23: end to the bay of plenty steamers who have got

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Speaker 23: home over Taranaki.

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Speaker 4: This is a delight at Tasman.

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Speaker 12: Marcos sign who had thrilled theme crowded buenom.

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Speaker 11: They have retained the rat bloomy shield bull clones or

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Speaker 11: take the one twenty four points to seventy.

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Speaker 4: The locals are not happy.

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Speaker 13: Full time England too good head twicket. In twenty four

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Speaker 13: to twelve.

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Speaker 1: The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with asset and equipment finance.

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Speaker 3: Just out of the States.

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Speaker 2: In the Trump situation, they have a person apparently in

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Speaker 2: custody and they are going to the police give a

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Speaker 2: briefing shortly. Just to keep you, keep you in touch

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Speaker 2: with what's going on there. I have eld Andrews sail

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Speaker 2: both with us fellows. Good morning morning. Make opening question.

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01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm sending in a kitchen yesterday, right, what are you

1308
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: doing in the kitchen having breakfast? So nothing untowards At

1309
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: this particular point, music goes slightly astray. Playlist goes off

1310
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 2: peace and there's a voice that comes on the speakers

1311
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: that's not what we had programmed in. I go to Katie,

1312
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 2: I go is this Gordon Lightfoot? And she looks it

1313
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: up on the list and goes, oh my god, it's right.

1314
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: How did you know that?

1315
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: And I said, because Gordon Lightfoot's got a fairly well

1316
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: known voice and it's fairly easy to pick. She then says,

1317
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: who is Gordon Lightfoot? And I go to the work,

1318
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, and that particular conversation ensues. She then says,

1319
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: ask Guy and Andrew, because they're my generation. Sorry guy,

1320
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 2: they're my generation, and they if they know so, Guy,

1321
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: have you heard of Gordon Lightfoot.

1322
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 24: Well, I've just aged thirty years, so that's tough to take.

1323
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 24: I'm going to ask the same question, who is I

1324
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 24: feel like I've heard the name O my god, but

1325
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 24: I couldn't tell you who he is.

1326
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 13: Andrew, now I have good I think I'm correct in

1327
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 13: saying he wasn't a one hit wonder, but he was

1328
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 13: pretty close.

1329
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 17: Was it?

1330
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 13: The wreck of the Edmond.

1331
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald or yep? Probably is most famous, if you could famous?

1332
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: Who cares you reckon? This is more famous than the.

1333
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 24: The slightly more modern version of this is a lot

1334
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 24: better than.

1335
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: First Who did the slightly more modern version?

1336
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 24: I can't remember. It be called Anastasia or something.

1337
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 13: It's a fantastic tune. He's got a very distinctive voice.

1338
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: That's what I see him.

1339
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 15: Have you got the record?

1340
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need the wreck of I think that's the

1341
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: quintessential song. If if he gets buried under one song,

1342
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: it's the record. The Fitzgerald's incredible.

1343
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 13: Now just from me, it's very long tune. But you're

1344
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 13: about to say you're in the kitchen, your playless switches

1345
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 13: to trackside radio and you hear some clown giving an

1346
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 13: inaccurate tip for the fifth fit to hear an ow so.

1347
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 24: And to be an accurate.

1348
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 3: So I would have just are you allowed to bet

1349
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: guy when you're on television?

1350
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1351
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 24: Yeah, but I don't tend to do a lot becau.

1352
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 24: There's a bit going on.

1353
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: No, but as like you're getting a you're talking to

1354
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: the jockey and you're going, you know, he can't.

1355
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 3: Tell you what I'll tell you what guy?

1356
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 13: Was that guy with a jockey?

1357
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 3: Well, they both tell you what guy? Okay, mate?

1358
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 25: Go?

1359
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 3: Well is that how it goes on trackside radio?

1360
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 24: Something like that? Mike the size of Now.

1361
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: Why are we here? I can't remember that right now?

1362
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 3: Super Rugby Andrew?

1363
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 26: What is you?

1364
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 13: Zeil and Racing Board? Can you email Mike go?

1365
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: I don't tend to do a lot of betting DearS anyway,

1366
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: Super Rugby Andrew?

1367
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: What's these new rules? What's a lucky loser?

1368
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: Very good question because it's one play, six, two plays, five,

1369
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 2: three plays four yes?

1370
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: And what's about? What's listen?

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 13: Listen? The three winners go through yes, and the highest

1372
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 13: seeded loser out of those six lucky loser out of

1373
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 13: the high seated loser out of the three losers, goes through.

1374
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: So have we reached a new low for rugby in

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: this country.

1376
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Speaker 13: Well, now it's pretty cool and lucky. Look, they had

1377
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 13: a chance to strip this competition back a little bit.

1378
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 13: It's down to eleven teams. Twelve was the magic number,

1379
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 13: probably like Super twelve and the good old days where

1380
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 13: you played everybody once and then you had Semis in

1381
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 13: a final. Not hard to understand. They done extremely well

1382
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 13: in confusing the rugby audience set Again, this competition has

1383
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 13: been through so many different iterations. This is just another

1384
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 13: one and rugby needs a competition that's easy to understand.

1385
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 13: That it's rule are difficult to understand. It needs a

1386
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 13: competition that's easy to understand. This is because there are

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01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 13: six teams making the playoffs, primarily because they want an

1388
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 13: Australian side, isn't it If it was top four, you

1389
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 13: probably only have four New Zealand teams make the semis.

1390
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 22: Right.

1391
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 24: I agree with your point around they need to stop

1392
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 24: changing the competition every year. But is it really that

1393
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 24: hard to understand that the playoff system is not that

1394
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 24: hard to understand? And in the same breath, I think

1395
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 24: it's a good thing that if you finish top and

1396
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 24: let's say you are to lose your quarterfinal or whatever

1397
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 24: it's called, which would be rare. But if you are

1398
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 24: to lose it, you get a second chance, So you

1399
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 24: essentially get rewarded for being the top team in the competition.

1400
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 24: I think that's a smart thing.

1401
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 13: But the fourth best team could lose and still go through.

1402
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 24: Yeah, I suppose that's true.

1403
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 27: I mean yeah.

1404
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 24: And the fact that six teams go through an eleven

1405
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 24: team competition.

1406
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: That's when more than half the field qualifies your playoffs.

1407
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: That's insane.

1408
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 13: And I get it in the NRL, where the two

1409
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 13: top teams or top four teams get a life, right,

1410
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 13: I get that because they've this is completely different, although

1411
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 13: it maybe.

1412
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 24: Slightly better at the moment. It's eight out of twelve.

1413
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 24: So what's what's better six of eleven or eight of twelve.

1414
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what are the odds on that? Guy,

1415
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: Good question, Guy, Havel Hendri. Several more in a moment.

1416
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 2: Thirteen past eight, The.

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio powered

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01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 15: Talk hipp News Talks Me.

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01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: Sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Monday morning commentary Box on the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with asset and equipment.

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 26: Legendmism from the chip down the Big Magnet.

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01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: Chagumi, don't write them mind listening.

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01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 17: Said.

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01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: Question web scis of NOVEMBERT Loomy a lot of Sundown action,

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01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: and I think I'd change my view on that. Sundown

1428
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: is probably the greatest song of his.

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01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, we're rolling them out here, guy, aren't we?

1430
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 27: No, we really know it's good.

1431
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: All Yeah, you can't forget about Sunday who did the

1432
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: model version of Sundown.

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 13: I got hope when I mentioned that he might have

1434
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 13: been in one. Wonder I'll take that back.

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, taking it back right now.

1436
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 2: It's like one of you random sports from SEV.

1437
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 13: Has your production team hit any messages from the Small

1438
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 13: People's Association?

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01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 3: We just put it in the pile of complaints. Its

1440
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: ever growing. Now the America's Cup. Are you following it guy?

1441
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 3: Or not?

1442
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 15: Not?

1443
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 25: Really?

1444
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 24: Like I'm following it, but I haven't got up to

1445
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 24: watch any of it. I've watched the odd piece of highlights.

1446
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 24: I see it's at the semi final stage and a

1447
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 24: couple of Cruis are about to go out. But to

1448
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 24: be honest, and I think I said this the other

1449
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 24: week when we were talking about it. Once it gets

1450
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 24: to the actual America's Cup, I might have an interest.

1451
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: Right now, it's it's it's the Ins and Lunar Ross

1452
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: are both up four, so it's a three yeah, so

1453
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 2: one sided.

1454
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the problem.

1455
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: And we don't know that Lunar Ross and then the

1456
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: Os won't go you know, five or ten nil or

1457
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 2: whatever they rate off against them. We don't know that

1458
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: when they actually comes to the America's Cup it won't

1459
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: be something nil as well, do we At the moment?

1460
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 13: You'd have to assume Luna Ross is a hot favorite

1461
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 13: to race team Inzeed just you'd hope in the America's

1462
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 13: Cup that there's some good competition. When they raced out here,

1463
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 13: all raced in Auckland off the Gulf, I remember some

1464
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 13: good jewels and some racing, some tight racing. That's just

1465
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 13: not happening.

1466
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 15: But it's not.

1467
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 27: I was talking to a.

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 24: Colleague yesterday and they put it pretty well. They've out

1469
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 24: technologied themselves. There's too much technology now in the sense

1470
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 24: that all they've kind of cared about is making it

1471
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 24: so technologically advanced that these boats go so fast that

1472
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 24: it feels like they have taken the competition side of

1473
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 24: things out of it. You know, they're never going to

1474
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 24: go back to the day where the boats were slow

1475
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 24: and you had to hoist the spinnaker and you had

1476
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 24: to drag the sail through the water and you could

1477
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 24: lose thirty seconds doing that. Whatever it might be, they're

1478
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 24: never going to go back to that. But they have

1479
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 24: seemingly lost a lot of the competitive factor. Once a

1480
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 24: team wins the start and gets out of the start box,

1481
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 24: the race is more often than not.

1482
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 2: I would never go back, but you can't beat a

1483
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: tacking jill.

1484
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 13: That's right, correctly, the grinders and attaching and yes, those

1485
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 13: days have moved on, but they were and they were

1486
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:11,799
Speaker 13: very long races.

1487
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 3: I think we abund that.

1488
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 13: But yeah, but at least and in some of them

1489
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 13: you saw some amazing attacking.

1490
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 2: Jewels Montgomerys during some of those races.

1491
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 15: Right.

1492
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 13: And that's the other That is the other fact that

1493
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 13: we don't have Pj's voice.

1494
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 2: No, And that's that's it's it's not the same. You know,

1495
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: call me old fish, yeah, but it isn't the same.

1496
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: How well built is David Nieker?

1497
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 13: Extremely well? I said on a couch and a hotel

1498
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 13: lobby was in last week, right, just be no, I

1499
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 13: was doing an interview, right. I must admit I did

1500
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 13: suck it in through the eighteen minute interview.

1501
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 25: The abs.

1502
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 13: The abbs took a fair hammering.

1503
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 24: How many abs were we talking about here? Andrew?

1504
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 13: If you look at it close not that I said

1505
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 13: at my desk all day looking at images of David Nika,

1506
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 13: but if you look close to he's got eight yeah,

1507
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 13: eight muscles. I've got like a twenty four pack at

1508
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 13: the moment. But it's coming down.

1509
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: Yes, he's in phenomenal shape and I'm glad he won't.

1510
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 3: I hope he's back. Hey, listen to either of you

1511
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 3: guys seeing the F one this morning?

1512
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: Yes, it's tell me just hand on hart guy, is

1513
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: that the best race you've seen or not?

1514
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 15: Well?

1515
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 24: I was about to say, how many times have we said.

1516
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 3: This season that it is getting better and better?

1517
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 24: But this is the best rash of the season. It

1518
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 24: had it all. And then I mean, how can people

1519
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 24: seem to be saying that the peer is and signs

1520
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 24: crash that signs was that fault? See how anyone can

1521
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 24: that it's fault yes, signs No, No, sorry, it's Signs's fault. No,

1522
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 24: it's not.

1523
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: Pierre has had plenty of room to move and he

1524
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: didn't have to get tagged, and Signs was in front

1525
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: and he couldn't see it.

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01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: So it's it's on period.

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 24: If you watch the on board, he literally pauls his

1528
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 24: steering wheel to the left, go straight into Peries into.

1529
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 13: The war right scientist, what's McLaren done?

1530
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: Are they upgrades and the other the other car?

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: The Red Bulls aren't as competitive and I wouldn't underestimate

1532
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 2: the sheer skill of both Norris and Pastri. I think

1533
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 2: if you look at Piastre and what he did to

1534
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: get to the lead this morning, that's as good a

1535
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: driver as you will see an F one anywhere anytime.

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01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 3: Anyhow.

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01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 13: It's fantastic for the for the competition.

1538
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 15: Isn't it.

1539
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: Well McLaren are now leading Red Bull.

1540
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 24: Yes, I was about to say, and that's huge, and

1541
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 24: I think we've said it in the last few weeks

1542
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 24: as well. The pressure now has to massively go on

1543
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 24: Christian Horner in terms of keeping his job.

1544
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 2: We were talking about that, I said to Sam earlier on.

1545
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: I said, not necessarily, because he's won previously. See that

1546
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: record counts. It might count against him because they don't

1547
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 2: like him because of the way he's behaved during the season,

1548
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 2: plus the fact all these other people, including new We

1549
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 2: have gone, so he may be a sacrificial lamb. But

1550
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, just because you lose one season doesn't mean

1551
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 2: you get sacked. But it's it's what it means is

1552
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: it's gripping if you lose it from where you mean.

1553
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 24: They've completely lost their way in the space of about

1554
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 24: half a dozen races.

1555
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 3: And Liam Lawson this weekend apparently posting Paul.

1556
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 13: Was supposed to be this weekend, now next week him.

1557
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 3: All wait to see, but I think it's good news.

1558
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 13: Fingers fingers crossed. If one, drivers are quite smaller set,

1559
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 13: you do they talk.

1560
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: Like no, no, Well they talk with accents of course,

1561
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: and some of them you can't you can't understand. But

1562
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 2: I think I've done enough accents for one morning.

1563
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 24: Andrew, it's always it's always great to catch up with

1564
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 24: both of you, guys.

1565
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 13: Got to get guys going to get back down to

1566
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 13: the stables with his Rothman's and turf dikees. I will

1567
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 13: let him go. Eh, good to.

1568
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: See Andrew Seville, Guy Havel.

1569
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 4: The my costume breakfast with the Jaguar f base News Talks.

1570
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: EDB got some good news.

1571
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: Small business owner's been writing that roller case for the

1572
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: last couple of years. So the good news is Kiu

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01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 2: Bank's got their backs with the game changing lending solution

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: designed to support Kiwi businesses to become better off. It's

1575
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: called fast Capital. It's exactly see what it sounds like.

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01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: Quick online, easy to apply for business loans five thousand

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 2: to a cool million, whether you need a safety net

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Speaker 2: or a boost for expansion, They've got options to fit

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01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: every business. Have the good people at Kiwibank. And the

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Speaker 2: best part, no more draining and paperwork of growing hold

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Speaker 2: on hold Because fast Capital's digital application that chats with

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Speaker 2: You get real time decisions day, all night, whenever the

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Speaker 2: inspiration strikes. So ready to give your business the burst

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Speaker 2: that needs you. Search Kiwibank, fast Capital, apply online. This

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Speaker 2: is business borrowing made eligibility criteria, lending criteria t's and

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Speaker 2: c's apply. It is all good news from Kiwi Bank.

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 15: Hosking.

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 2: This is the latest from the Martin County Police firstpect's demeanor.

1590
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 28: I would describe as having a relatively calm, flat a factor,

1591
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 28: was not displaying a lot of emotions. Never asked what

1592
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 28: is this about Odyssey law enforcement with wine rifles, bluelights,

1593
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 28: lock on on, never questioned it here was not on

1594
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 28: when we took them out of the car. Of course,

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01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 28: we didn't do a search, and I was dis fact

1596
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 28: that they're getting a search right now. The FBI will

1597
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 28: take that car. We will transport it for them back

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 28: to Palme's carrying into their office.

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: How good tea, He's awesome. West Palm Beats themselves are

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01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: about to speak and give a briefing on this. This

1601
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: is unfolding in Florida as we speak. Will bring that

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01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: to you as soon as.

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01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 3: We get it.

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: Meantime, News in a couple of moments with the latest,

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: and then we'll get across the Tasman to murray Olds

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: in Australia here at news.

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 3: Talk said B.

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues is

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01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking.

1610
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 4: Breakfast with Bailey's real estate.

1611
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: Your local experts across residential, commercial and rural News Talk.

1612
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: Said B is a stout defense of the America's cup.

1613
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 2: For God's sake, watch some America's Cup. You sound like

1614
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: two nine year olds pretending they've seen a naked woman.

1615
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 2: Luna ross versus American Magic was two seconds at the

1616
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 2: finish inios Cane to Lingy.

1617
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: At the start. It's brilliant visit race.

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01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: I saw they won by about two and a half minutes.

1619
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: And winning the start does not mean you the end.

1620
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: And what I can tell you without word of a

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: lie is both of these contests are at four nil,

1622
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: each aiming four five nil, which doesn't make it. That

1623
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: fact that at some point during the race it was

1624
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: moderately interesting doesn't make the overall contest. But from talking

1625
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: to my sister, who seems to know about these things

1626
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: a because she lives in Italy but suddenly has got

1627
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 2: passionate about yachting, there is tremendous up until now. Because

1628
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: she was asking me she said, how much interest is there?

1629
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: I said at this point minimal, And I said, what

1630
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: about Italy? She goes reasonable, it's among the yachting community mainly.

1631
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: But when she said, when Luna Rossa make the Cup,

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: it will go off. It will be a major deal

1633
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: in that particular part of the world, which is interesting.

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01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: It's very good reading over the weekend immigration numbers. And

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01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 2: I know a lot of you don't like immigration. I

1636
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: love immigration. I love immigration if it's done well, which

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that we're doing it well at the

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01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: moment because there seem to be too many people coming

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 2: from the same places, which is namely China, the Philippines, India,

1640
01:15:58,760 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 2: and Fiji.

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: And those numbers that came.

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: Out last week arrivals and departures, it's young New Zealanders

1643
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: who are leaving, and it's people from China, India, Philippines

1644
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: and Fiji who are arriving. Some of them I know

1645
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: to be nurses on visus because we're short of nurses,

1646
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: but then they can't get jobs because not hiring nurses

1647
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: to despite the fact we want nurses. So there doesn't

1648
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: seem to be a well oiled machine running at the moment.

1649
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: But one of the reasons I like migration generally is

1650
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: it drives growth. People bring skills, they bring jobs, they

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01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 2: open businesses, they spend money, etc. And the suggestion I'm

1652
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: reading over the weekend, and of course we haven't talked

1653
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: much about it, is as immigration slows, which it is

1654
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: at the moment, what then happens is, of course the

1655
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: economy is affected as well. So for all the times

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01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: that we don't like immigration because there are too many

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: people coming in, everyone will be going, oh, thank god,

1658
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: there aren't so many people coming in. When people don't

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 2: come in, it slows the economy and none of that's good.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes away from nine.

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: by News Talks ab.

1663
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 3: Here it is eighteen minutes away from nine.

1664
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 12: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 12: for New Zealand business.

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01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 3: So it's funny we go. Mat Murray Olds is back

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01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 3: from holiday.

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 15: How are you, mister Hosking?

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01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 21: Very good morning mate, pretty well, thank you, just back

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01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 21: from the UK inspecting stuff for you. I was looking

1671
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 21: at that new but Lamborghini you wanted me to look

1672
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 21: at in that lovely.

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01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 15: Pastor blue, and I put the order in for you.

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: Fantastic.

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 21: I did have a word to President Macrome when I

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 21: was in France about as new Prime Minister.

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01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 15: I thought you'd approve of that fairly much so as

1678
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 15: right wing as you can go.

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 21: Looks like a patrician, looks like you sh'll be wearing

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01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 21: a toga, So I think I've done a bit of

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 21: scouting on your behalf.

1682
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: Ah, you've come back in a fine fetal and as

1683
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 2: a trip out of ten ten it was the time

1684
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 2: of your life.

1685
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 3: One you'd never go again.

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 25: What was it?

1687
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 15: Oh, it's a ten.

1688
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 21: I was leading a group of listeners to my weekend

1689
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 21: radio show around the UK and a cruise. We went

1690
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 21: over to the Western Front, and then when they came home,

1691
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 21: we stayed on in France and had a beautiful time

1692
01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 21: in Paris.

1693
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: Small can you say you go around the UK? And

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01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: I don't envisage people sailing around the UK because the

1695
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: vast amounts a bit really a sort of a bit,

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: you know, a.

1697
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 15: Bunch of ports.

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01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 22: You know.

1699
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 21: We flew to London, down to Southampton, left Southampton, around

1700
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 21: the Cork, you know, holyhead, you get up to.

1701
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 15: Well where else? Did we stop at? Belfast?

1702
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:27,600
Speaker 21: The Museum to the Titanic, Oceanic and Britannic and Belfast

1703
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 21: is next level, my goodness, if you have any interest

1704
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 21: at all in history about the Titanic, which is endlessly fascinating,

1705
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 21: that museum is a masterpiece.

1706
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 15: It's magnificent.

1707
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,879
Speaker 21: Around the rest of the UK, you know, down Scotland,

1708
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 21: across the LaHave, in France, which and went to Money's

1709
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,959
Speaker 21: Garden in Viiviny, which was just beautiful.

1710
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic.

1711
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 15: I've got some cuttings.

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01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 2: Is it because your commentary has been missing in the

1713
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 2: Australian landscape that Dutton surged in the polls?

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01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 21: I think I think so because he has He's making

1715
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 21: every post winner. And as Peter Dutton's rising, I know

1716
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 21: you're a fan of Dutton, I'm not. But as Dutton's rising,

1717
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 21: the wheels are falling off Alban Easier bit and last

1718
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,919
Speaker 21: Polot because I did have one of your nerdy holidays.

1719
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 21: I mean, I was on the net all the time

1720
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:14,839
Speaker 21: when I'm away looking.

1721
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 15: At stories and.

1722
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 21: It's clear, Look, Alban Easy's losing a lot of paint

1723
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 21: as we get ever closer to an election, and you know,

1724
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 21: are we going to have an early election? It's all

1725
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 21: going to depend on the Reserve Bank. Well, they're having

1726
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 21: a fight with the Reserve Bank. They don't need it.

1727
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 21: Just looks at the government's trying to bully the woman

1728
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 21: who's in charge of the Reserve Bank, and that's not going.

1729
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 15: To go over very well.

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01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, firms backed by a sydant, That's what I'm reading.

1731
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 3: While you're away.

1732
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 2: Firms backed by a Sydney Underworld Link businessman involved in

1733
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: buying illegal guns in the former boss of Victoria's Common

1734
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: chero Biki gang secured critical backing from the CFMEU, facilitating

1735
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 2: their access to major construction projects, including taxpayer funded sites.

1736
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: Just when I could think this whole union thing gets

1737
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 2: any worse, it does.

1738
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 15: Of course it does.

1739
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 21: And this has been going on for a long long time,

1740
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 21: not just under labor, It's been going on forever. But

1741
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 21: the governments have either been complacent, reluctant to gutless, and

1742
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 21: this has been a significant problem, adding costs to.

1743
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 15: You know, the people who are building the.

1744
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 21: Construction sites, or the governments who are actually funding a

1745
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 21: lot of these projects because it's government money as well.

1746
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 15: And what you've got is a union.

1747
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 21: Say the CFMU, the construction arm of the cv FM,

1748
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 21: that's now an administration.

1749
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 15: Of course they're threatened.

1750
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 21: To go to the High Court to challenge the government's

1751
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 21: right to put them in administration.

1752
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 15: But you've got endless lists of crooks.

1753
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 21: You've got blokes with more tattoos than you can I mean,

1754
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 21: look these blokes look responsored by Walt Disney. They turned

1755
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 21: up in a building. So they've never held a hammer.

1756
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 21: There would never bloody clue about how to use you know,

1757
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 21: a drop sore. But they stand around with more muscles

1758
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 21: you can imagine, you know, are getting paid and there's

1759
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 21: clear evidence of how about this for hutzpah. There's a

1760
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 21: dad and his son here in Sydney, the New South

1761
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 21: Wales arm of the Construction of the Construction Union.

1762
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 25: Right.

1763
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 15: Dad and Dave were.

1764
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 21: Also dismissed when the union was put into administration. The

1765
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 21: committee running the union has authorized three and a half

1766
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 21: million dollars of union members' funds just to be siphoned

1767
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 21: off and parked in a trust with a local way

1768
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 21: to look after the legal fees of the father and

1769
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 21: son are running a union. The son, i might add,

1770
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 21: has never been near a building site. He is the

1771
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,320
Speaker 21: assistant secretary of the Construction Union here in New South Wales.

1772
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 21: The old man's a builder if he's been on the

1773
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 21: union books forever. But the sons come along as well.

1774
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 21: The two of them have both gone, and now the

1775
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 21: union members are about to pay the union the legal

1776
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 21: fees of these two.

1777
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 15: You can't make it up.

1778
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, it's unreal funny enough We had the Ministry

1779
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 2: of Education on the program this morning, and we've got

1780
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 2: teaching problems in our system as well, and we're bringing in,

1781
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: you know, teachers who've retired and bring them back into

1782
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: the program. And I note that New South Wales doing

1783
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: exactly it's it seems to be the problem here, Murray

1784
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 2: is no one wants to be a teacher and is

1785
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: that the same I'm assuming in New South Wales?

1786
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 21: Look but when he teachers have paid rubbish. There's no

1787
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 21: respect anymore. I mean, you know we I don't know,

1788
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 21: but I was a little bit older than you, or

1789
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 21: more mature than you. When when when when we were young,

1790
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 21: you had respect for the classroom teacher, didn't you.

1791
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 15: I mean it was just a thing you did.

1792
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 21: You looked up to the mums and dads used to

1793
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 21: go along, and you know, the parent teacher was a

1794
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 21: big deal. These days, no one gives a rats, no

1795
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 21: one cares less. And that's such a and and teachers,

1796
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 21: particularly primary teachers are just like, I don't know, classroom

1797
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 21: cannon fodder. And they are bringing in people who have

1798
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 21: retired and they're offering them little short term contracts and

1799
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 21: the other the other thing that I despair about is

1800
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 21: that you've got teachers who are completely unqualified for one

1801
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 21: area of of you know, they may have been maths teachers,

1802
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 21: they may have been teaching history. They've been called back

1803
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 21: in to try and teach maths and science for goodness sake,

1804
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 21: because no one wants to be a teacher. It's just

1805
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 21: regarded so poorly by society. Unlike Finland, which has been

1806
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 21: topping the OECD averages for teaching outcomes for education outcomes.

1807
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 15: For kids for years and years and years.

1808
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 21: Every teacher in Finland has to have a master's and

1809
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,919
Speaker 21: they are regarded the same sort of light as doctors.

1810
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: And interestingly, civics has been mandated or will be in

1811
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: the curriculum rejig in New South Wales, so they're mandating civics.

1812
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 2: So you got to learn about how the constitution works

1813
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff.

1814
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 15: That a bad thing either.

1815
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a bad thing either, Murray. I

1816
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 2: think it You and I sat down with a couple

1817
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: of beers. We could probably put the world to rights

1818
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: in fairly shortood because us, Murray. But we're brilliant together.

1819
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 21: Feeding into all of this, of course, is the endless

1820
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 21: right wing whining about how you know the left is

1821
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 21: dumbing down the classroom, and you know the no one's

1822
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,680
Speaker 21: teaching white Australian history's talking about Aboriginal Australian history, and

1823
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 21: the two should be taught simultaneously.

1824
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 15: And I think I agree with that as well.

1825
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 3: Mike.

1826
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 2: Here's the text for you. It took my kids to

1827
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: the Titanic Museum in Belfast a couple of months ago.

1828
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 2: Murray's right, it's worth the trip to the UK just

1829
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 2: for that.

1830
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 21: Oh, it's magnificent, it is. It is so beautifully done.

1831
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 21: There's a woman, missus Rice, I forget her Christian name.

1832
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 21: She her husband had died. She went back to the

1833
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 21: UK decided no, no, no, she wanted to go back

1834
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 21: to North America, have five children and herself. The only

1835
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 21: found her body that the little boys were never found.

1836
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 21: She's buried in Halifax. It was beautiful.

1837
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: Good morning you mate, ketch up. Wednesday always Australia for us.

1838
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 2: This morning it's ten away from nine.

1839
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 4: The hostal rapist withal.

1840
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: We're standing bive of the West Palm Beach people. I

1841
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to come in our time frame.

1842
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: And by their demeanor, there's a couple of the warm

1843
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: up acts who come in and sort of show everybody

1844
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: what's going on and how it's going to work, and

1845
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: the tremendous number hangers on, it doesn't look like they've

1846
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: got something really edgy to tell us. I don't know

1847
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 2: that what's happened this morning is I mean, as serious

1848
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: as it may be with an AK fold, well, it

1849
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: means is how many AK forty sevens are there in

1850
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: Florida in any given day and how close was the road.

1851
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: The main problem was Trump appears to have been on

1852
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 2: the fifth as in the golf course, and the fifth

1853
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 2: is the closest hole to the road. The road's only

1854
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: a couple of hundred yards away. And if you've got

1855
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: an AK forty seven, apparently the president becomes vulnerable at

1856
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 2: that particular point in time.

1857
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 3: So there'll be some questions.

1858
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 2: Marks they've rounded a blowkeup, And that's about where we're

1859
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: at at the moment. So that if that gets spicy

1860
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 2: then I'm sure Kerry Slash the rest of them will

1861
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 2: do it for you between nine and midday today. Can

1862
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: I just remind you I was thinking about this as

1863
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: aos cold pressing the grape for it over the weekend.

1864
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 2: By the way, supply she's on the grapefruit front. I

1865
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: have way more grapefruit than I can cold press introduced

1866
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: another press.

1867
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 15: I know.

1868
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't another press. I just need to either will

1869
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 2: potentially drink a lot more grape for a jess. It's

1870
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 2: a great gut sweeper grapefruit because it's full of fiber.

1871
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: But you can only take so much of it because

1872
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 2: it sits heavily on your stomach. If you ever drink

1873
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 2: a proper glass of freshly squeezed grapefruit juice, it.

1874
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 3: Sits very heavily with you. Well it's sweeping, Well it's sweeping.

1875
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: It's a slow sweep anyway. The reason I'm telling you

1876
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 2: this is Horticulture in New Zealand have launched this campaign

1877
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: and awareness campaign. And I don't know why they needed

1878
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 2: to do this, but they want to promote the idea

1879
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: that we should all buy locally produced fruit and vegetables.

1880
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: And is that not plainly obvious to everybody?

1881
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 3: I would have thought it.

1882
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 11: Was, but any they spent years training us that we

1883
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 11: couldn't because they were selling them all overseas well.

1884
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 3: No, it's you, now, do you know why? They can

1885
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 3: have it both ways? Can they guess what the.

1886
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: Hoart industry is worth of this country? Go on right now,

1887
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: pick a number billions?

1888
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 3: How many? Seven and a half? That's correct? Well, Angli,

1889
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 3: you didn't give me a chance.

1890
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 4: Sounds I was math.

1891
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: You would have got it wrong. And I don't have times.

1892
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 2: I don't have time to dig with people who get

1893
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: answers wrong. Five minutes away from.

1894
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 4: Nine trending now with Camers Guarehouse, I'll praise vide would

1895
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 4: sale on now.

1896
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: NFL Sunday in America, Chiefs Bengals. That's just begun. That's

1897
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 2: the big game for the day. Aaron Rodgers. He's won

1898
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: his first game as a Jet, which is good. They

1899
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: beat the Titans, who are well, they're all right. The

1900
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: Titans twenty four seventeen. Cowboys got thrashed. They went down

1901
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: forty four.

1902
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 3: To nineteen to the Saints.

1903
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott through two interceptions, got so bad they pulled

1904
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: them towards the end of the game. He's the guy

1905
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 2: got signed last week. I told you for sixty million dollars,

1906
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: highest played quarterback in the game. So that's what you

1907
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: get for sixty million dollars. A guy can't pass in

1908
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 2: the right direction, so you pull them off anyway. Television

1909
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 2: host called Skip Bayless, he's a Cowboy fan. This is

1910
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 2: what he does when the Cowboys lose.

1911
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 22: Remember when Jerry Jones said he was all in to

1912
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 22: fix his Dallas Cowboys after they gave up twenty seven

1913
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 22: first half points at a home playoff game against Green

1914
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 22: Bay that ended last season. Remember when I said, now

1915
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 22: I'm now all out because Jerry did next to nothing

1916
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 22: to go all in to fix this team. I just

1917
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 22: had to sit and watch my Dallas Cowboys that I have.

1918
01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 20: Loved since I was ten years old, with all my

1919
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 20: heart and soul, ripped my heart out again in a

1920
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 20: home regular season game.

1921
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 22: They've won sixteen of those in a row by giving

1922
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,440
Speaker 22: up thirty.

1923
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 20: Five first half points time, the all time record for

1924
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 20: giving up points at home in any kind of game.

1925
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 20: I told you so, I told myself so. Now I

1926
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,440
Speaker 20: God is my freaking field goal kicker number seventeen.

1927
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 3: It s just like my coscame worries of us. Hey,

1928
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 3: that's us. Went well for Monday.

1929
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 21: Thank you?

1930
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Rickon back tomorrow morning from six. Who's with us after right?

1931
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 22: Who?

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01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 7: Oh?

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01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 15: That'll be good.

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01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 3: We'll look talk about as always. Happy days.

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Speaker 4: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast.

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