1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 2: He's arrived in the UK for his second state visit. 3 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: He's getting the full royal treatment. King Charles is hosting 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: the US President of Milani at Windsor Castle, they count 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: Buckingham Place. It's currently undergoing a major renovation. There's going 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: to be a ceremonial welcome and a lavish state banquet 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: and just everything now. Robert Lacey is a royal historian 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: who worked as a consultant to the Netflix show The Crown. 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 3: Hi Robert, Hello, Heather. 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: So are they giving him the full royal treatment? Are they? 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean it's already happened. I mean he's the 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: first head of states of ours who know actually to 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: be invited visibly with a letter which he opened delightedly 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 3: in front of the world's press. And he's the first 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: time any head of state has ever been invited. Twice, 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: he came in his first term. He was then greeted 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: by then Prince Charles with Camilla, and now he's getting 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: the full royal treatment from King Charles at Windsor Castle, 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: only a few miles down the river from River Thames, 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 3: from Running Mead, where the British monarchy signed its famous 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: deal that really destined it on its present course towards 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: ceremonial glory but actual political impotence. But we shall see 23 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: whether this meeting might not yield something of substance as well. 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: So what do you think? It sounds to me very 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: much like the bank is going to be the highlight. 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: It'll be one of the highlights. I mean, it's held 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: at the table that's in Windsor Castle in the Great Hall, 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: nearly a thousand years old, Windsor Castle fifty yards long. 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 3: What's that getting on for the length of the football field. 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: And apparently there are also plans for a carriage drive 31 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: not down the mall in London, because there aren't many 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: people who come out to cheer Donald Trump. Most of 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: them would boo him, I'm afraid to say. But it 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: will be in the ground well, in the alternative surroundings 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: of Windsor Great Park, in a carriage with the castle 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: in the background. It couldn't be more photogenic. 37 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Have you heard that he is going to visit the 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: late Queen's grave. 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: This will be one of the most moving moments, I think, 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: and of genuine significance. Donald Trump's mother was Scottish. He's 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: got this sentimental fondness for the monarchy, and Britain is 42 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: using that frankically as part of our modern soft power. 43 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: And the plan is we are told that he will 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: go into the chapel Windsor Castle and pay tribute to 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: the grave of not just the Queen but Prince Philip, 46 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: of course predeceased her but lay there waiting for her 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: under the and sentimentality and power will come together at 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: that moment and history as well our longest living monarch ever, 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: the creator of the Commonwealth and of course happy to 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: say Head of State of New Zealand as well as 51 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: Great Britain, Robert. 52 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: How do Britain's feel about about it being laid on 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: so thick. 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 3: Well, I think people realize that we Kirstam is doing 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: a job. I mean the real substance of the meeting 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: will happen at the end. After Windsor he will go 57 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: off to the President Trump and will maybe it's just 58 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: President Trump and Kirstam will go off and do the 59 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: solid business of the trip at Checkers, which is the 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: country home of the Prime Minister, and there they will 61 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: actually sit down and talk about things like Ukraine, maybe Palestine, Gaza, 62 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: who knows certainly things look, tariffs that matter to us. 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: So Britain's realize this is the sort of thing that 64 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: has to be done and actually we're rather proud that 65 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: we can still put on a good show and let's 66 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: hope for some positive result from it. 67 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely hate Robert, Thank you very much, appreciate your time. 68 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: That's Robert Lacey, royal historian and consultant to the Netflix 69 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: show The Crown. What Starma is after apparently is now 70 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: just a reasonable deal on the steel tariffs. So he 71 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: had been hoping originally that he could get the tariff 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: down to zero. 73 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: That's not realistic. 74 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 2: So he's decided, yeah, just going to go for twenty 75 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: five percent, which I think they're on already. He just 76 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: wants to make that permanent. And that is now looking 77 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: like a good deal because all the other countries are 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: still on fifty percent in terms of the steel tariffs. Also, 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: things haven't gone swimmingly just up to now. So a 80 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: couple of well I don't know how many, but a 81 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: bunch of protesters have projected a video montage of images 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein onto one of the 83 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: towers of Windsor Castle. It included the President's mugshot. It 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: included portraits of Epstein, newspaper headlines and then footage of 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: the two of them dancing together. The group behind it 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: is a group called Led by Donkeys, and they are 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: getting to be a little bit famous for their viral stunts. 88 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: They managed to get the montage broadcast onto the tower 89 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: for several minutes before they were arrested on suspicion of 90 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: malicious communications. 91 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: news talks they'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 93 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.