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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from newstalk EDB.

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Speaker 2: The first eleven inductees into the New Zealand Cricket Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame were revealed at a very special function at

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Speaker 2: the Basin Reserve at the New Zealand Cricket Museum at

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Speaker 2: the Basin Reserve, and the eleven inductees were Bert Sutcliffe,

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Speaker 2: John Reed, Jackie Lord, Trish mcelvey, Glenn Turner, Sir Richard Hadley,

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Speaker 2: Debbie Hockley, Martin Crowe, Emily Drumm, Daniel Vittori and Brendan McCallum.

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Speaker 2: A couple of those players obviously have since passed on,

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Speaker 2: but they were all represented either themselves or by members

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Speaker 2: of their families. It was a really lovely ceremony inducting

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Speaker 2: the first eleven into the Hall of Fame. Annually more

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Speaker 2: players will be added, and I guess there'll be debate

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Speaker 2: over the next inductees or whether there should have been

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Speaker 2: some players inducted this time around in the first eleven

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Speaker 2: who weren't. But those are the eleven. Hockley, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: was one of them. Nineteen test matches she scored thirteen

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Speaker 2: six not out against Australia. Was the New Zealand women's

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Speaker 2: team captain in six Tests and twenty seven One Day

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Speaker 2: Internationals and all she played one hundred and eighteen One

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Speaker 2: Day international scoring over four thousand runs at an average

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Speaker 2: in one hundred One Day Internationals. One of our great

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Speaker 2: Cricket Hall of Fame. I spoke to DeBie Hockley briefly

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Speaker 2: after the ceremony and asked how special it was for her. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Jason, it's pretty amazing really. I mean, as I've

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Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, you know, I've had I've had amazing things

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Speaker 3: Some of them sort of individual things, like say when

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Speaker 3: I was in dated into the IC Scenes Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame and when I became New Zealand prison. But to

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Speaker 3: be part of this, you know, inaugural first eleven, when

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Speaker 3: I look at the names of the people. I'm standing

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Speaker 3: here with you and we're looking at the photos on

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Speaker 3: the walls around here, and I'm just thinking, God, I'm

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Speaker 3: in the same in the same room as like John Reid,

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Speaker 3: Bert Zackliffe.

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Speaker 1: Richard Reser.

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Speaker 3: Richard doesn't matter because I know him so well anyway,

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Speaker 3: but even you know, the likes of Jackie Laud, who

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Speaker 3: I think is you know, I'm so thrilled that she

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Speaker 3: has been because whose stacks are phenomenal, Christopher Colby and

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Speaker 3: two of my heroes Betting Emily Drummond, Martin crow Bless

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Speaker 3: really hard to explain next year, it's it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a very very special thing, the likes of probably which

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's so well articulated. What about being here at

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Speaker 2: lot of wonderful things. How do you reflect on your

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Speaker 3: Well, probably my best effort at the Basin Reserve, I

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Speaker 3: but the tasted sandwich maker was excellent. It probably wasn't

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Speaker 3: But I was looking at the photo they've got media

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Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame here and it's actually Hair

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Speaker 3: at the Basin Reserve holding the World Cup, yes in

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Speaker 3: two thousand, which I had tried five times to win.

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Speaker 2: And the other great thing about this is that you're

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Speaker 2: by many, many more of your countrymen and women who

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Speaker 2: have excelled in cricket as well. But as a foundation member,

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Speaker 2: I guess you'll always be in the first eleven, even

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Speaker 3: That's true, That's quite true. I mean, you can you know,

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Speaker 2: That's Debbie Hockley who was one of the initial inductees,

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Speaker 2: as was Emily Drumm, who became the first New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Bertzick Clove Oval. In the year two thousands, she played

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Speaker 2: in five Tests and in the last two produced scores

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Speaker 2: She also played one hundred One Day internationals for her country,

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Speaker 4: Well, it's incredibly special. You've played a life of cracket.

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Speaker 4: You played for a long time in terms of your career,

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Speaker 4: many things post cricket, but this is really special. I'm

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Speaker 2: When the citations are read out, and just the achievements

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Speaker 4: I was just talking about that recently with someone and

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Speaker 4: sometimes I don't think I appreciated what I did do

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Speaker 4: in my time in the Black Jersey US goes and

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Speaker 2: Well, you're well and truly worth your place. Can I

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Speaker 2: ask you about the World Cup one? How often do

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd prepare to think about my recent one, to

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Speaker 4: But I'm just so delighted for the recent crop to

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Speaker 2: That's Emily dram another inductee and finally from the ceremony

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Speaker 2: on Thursday night, Brendon McCallum, captain who led New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Along the way, he started in various roles, scoring New

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Speaker 5: Thank you Bane. Yeah, it's obviously it's amazing that it's

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Speaker 5: It was pretty amazing and I feel incredibly grateful for it.

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Speaker 2: You've had a lot of cricket balls and a lot

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Speaker 2: You refocus quickly now after tonight back into your day

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Speaker 2: job of coaching the England side. You're looking forward to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's just like irony thing as a sort

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Speaker 5: us under a lot of pressure. So we know that

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Speaker 5: and make sure that we go there and still play

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Speaker 5: the style that gives us our best chance. And I

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Speaker 5: think it's going to be ripping test match and I'll

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Speaker 5: be well attended and hopefully, you know, we see a

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Speaker 5: tight victory one.

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Speaker 1: Way or the other congratch on this fast.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Briani too.

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Speaker 1: Tuess mate.

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Speaker 2: That is Brenda McCallum who was inducted on Thursday night

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Speaker 2: as well, and then, as I mentioned to him, got

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Speaker 2: into his day job, which is coaching this England cricket team.

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