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Speaker 3: It is out, the test is over, the smoke was

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Speaker 3: Hello back with on the Front Foot.

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Speaker 4: The Black Cat produced the result expected from the Bibwe

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Speaker 4: Test series without letting this standard slip and introduced a

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Speaker 4: new talent to increase the debt. Has two three day

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Speaker 4: defeats done anything for zimbabwek How can they lift this standard?

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Speaker 3: There's some talent in their ranks.

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Speaker 4: And thirty three years on from the New Zealand's first

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Speaker 4: test trip to Zimbabwe, one of the original teams recall

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Speaker 4: some bizarre events on that tour, but time to review

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Speaker 4: the series.

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Speaker 3: As Jeremy Caney, he's in the.

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Speaker 4: United Kingdom enjoying the delights of domestic one day.

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Speaker 5: Forget Jerry, what I'm doing the Metro Bank one day

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Speaker 5: cut I know I know three of three of the players.

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Speaker 5: I can't pretend you know, I just I say, there's

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Speaker 3: Hand you know, you know you're doing the same team, aren't.

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Speaker 5: You, well one of the teams, yes, Surny but yeah,

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Speaker 5: so anyway, Oen and they're out out grounds, which is

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Speaker 4: So anyway, No, but I've been watching some of it

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Speaker 4: seem to be getting good numbers there.

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Speaker 3: So they're providing cricket for the people.

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Speaker 5: Aren't they. Oh, definitely, definitely. I mean you get in

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Speaker 5: a large county like Surrey to have a game that's

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I mean we see a lot of

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Speaker 1: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.

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Speaker 4: So a nine we could win and an innings and

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Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty nine runs one way traffic for

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Speaker 4: Standing captain for the injured Tom Lathan, Mitchell Santner had

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Speaker 6: You know, we are challenge of times throughout the game,

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Speaker 4: He certainly couldn't have had any complaints about one of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously we've seen you know, Zach and some of

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Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: And for folks it seemed all quite overwhelming.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, still hasn't really kicked in, to be honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Moderates feelings for the host country up against a rampant

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Speaker 6: I think it's you know, you're challenging yourself against some

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Speaker 4: Good signs for the Black app She sitting home for

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Speaker 4: One player who'll be happy with his performance. Played a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks for having me on the show, Brian. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it's been a nice month for me here in Zim.

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Speaker 8: It was nice to get the opportunity initially in the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you don't do that often, do you. I

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Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly. I think, as you say, my last Test

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Speaker 8: But when I got the call from from Rob a

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Speaker 3: You were a pretty good form.

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Speaker 4: That must have been something that's special for you, because

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Speaker 3: Is it much change from Gary Stead to Rob Walter.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't say there's major changes. I think it just

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Speaker 4: You talk about form a player who plays in both white,

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Speaker 3: Is there two types of form? Is there?

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Speaker 4: Is there a test match form and a short form

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Speaker 8: I think they go hand in hand with how you

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Speaker 5: And we when we used to play Australia and teams

436
00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:13,013
Speaker 5: like that, that's that's that's what we had to confront

437
00:22:13,013 --> 00:22:18,013
Speaker 5: as well. And we were part of as as Zimbabwe

438
00:22:18,093 --> 00:22:20,893
Speaker 5: as they're really a de facto Division two side, aren't

439
00:22:20,893 --> 00:22:25,213
Speaker 5: they so until and England helped us a great deal

440
00:22:25,773 --> 00:22:29,853
Speaker 5: by continually coming between forty six when we played the

441
00:22:29,853 --> 00:22:33,773
Speaker 5: Assis and when we started again in seventy three playing

442
00:22:33,813 --> 00:22:39,173
Speaker 5: their top side. But what they did Ossie apart from England.

443
00:22:39,293 --> 00:22:42,053
Speaker 5: You know, we obviously that we played their better sides

444
00:22:42,573 --> 00:22:45,093
Speaker 5: and we had a very strong economic tie with them

445
00:22:45,133 --> 00:22:47,533
Speaker 5: and trade right through that time, didn't we, So they

446
00:22:47,573 --> 00:22:53,533
Speaker 5: were we had ties between the two countries anyway. With Australia,

447
00:22:55,333 --> 00:22:59,413
Speaker 5: we played B teams, didn't we, if you remember, that's right,

448
00:22:59,693 --> 00:23:04,493
Speaker 5: And they put young teams and didn't they They put

449
00:23:04,533 --> 00:23:06,613
Speaker 5: young players about to be in the in the full

450
00:23:06,653 --> 00:23:11,093
Speaker 5: Australian side when they went to Land. They slowly, I think,

451
00:23:11,213 --> 00:23:13,613
Speaker 5: helped us along the way to get better and better

452
00:23:14,173 --> 00:23:17,573
Speaker 5: until we got to Graham Dowling side in nineteen sixty nine.

453
00:23:17,733 --> 00:23:21,533
Speaker 5: We were beating their B teams when the Aussies came out,

454
00:23:22,253 --> 00:23:25,373
Speaker 5: and you know, with Brian Hastings and all those people.

455
00:23:25,413 --> 00:23:28,413
Speaker 5: Turner was around at that time as well. We had

456
00:23:28,413 --> 00:23:33,173
Speaker 5: some good batsman Bruce Murray, and we were becoming much

457
00:23:33,213 --> 00:23:37,853
Speaker 5: stronger in the bowling as well. So maybe that's the

458
00:23:37,893 --> 00:23:44,013
Speaker 5: way that Zimbabwe could go rather than sending the top side.

459
00:23:44,373 --> 00:23:46,893
Speaker 5: This one wasn't the total top side, but it was

460
00:23:46,973 --> 00:23:50,493
Speaker 5: strong whell. Maybe we sended eighteen there with a couple

461
00:23:50,493 --> 00:23:53,733
Speaker 5: of stronger guys and maybe that's the way they can

462
00:23:53,813 --> 00:23:54,773
Speaker 5: work their way up.

463
00:23:55,653 --> 00:23:57,573
Speaker 4: Well, I think South Africa can play a part in

464
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Speaker 4: that for Zimbabwe. I mean, I don't know the political

465
00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:07,533
Speaker 4: scenario over there, but surely the Zimbabwe domestic competition in

466
00:24:07,573 --> 00:24:11,253
Speaker 4: some way could be filtered into what they do in

467
00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:15,053
Speaker 4: South Africa. I know they say they're playing more short

468
00:24:15,093 --> 00:24:17,693
Speaker 4: form cricket than Test match, but the quality would be

469
00:24:17,733 --> 00:24:20,773
Speaker 4: good if they could do that. They're quite close enough

470
00:24:20,813 --> 00:24:24,453
Speaker 4: that they could have South African eight teams there. I mean,

471
00:24:24,533 --> 00:24:27,733
Speaker 4: the South Africans were there for the short form competition

472
00:24:27,813 --> 00:24:28,693
Speaker 4: in the tea twenties.

473
00:24:29,413 --> 00:24:32,333
Speaker 3: There's plenty of room to do that and that would help.

474
00:24:32,573 --> 00:24:37,293
Speaker 4: Zimbabwe get the quality of opposition they need rather than

475
00:24:37,413 --> 00:24:41,133
Speaker 4: learn to play Test cricket by playing Test cricket, and.

476
00:24:40,733 --> 00:24:44,173
Speaker 5: We shouldn't forget that, you know, of all the formats,

477
00:24:44,293 --> 00:24:49,453
Speaker 5: the Test cricket is going to expose weaknesses very much more,

478
00:24:49,973 --> 00:24:53,613
Speaker 5: you know, obviously than playing a shorter format game. So

479
00:24:54,533 --> 00:24:58,493
Speaker 5: you know, that's what's happened this time. England that played

480
00:24:58,493 --> 00:25:00,773
Speaker 5: them as well in a four day match, if you remember,

481
00:25:00,813 --> 00:25:03,653
Speaker 5: that was over in three days as well. England assisted

482
00:25:03,693 --> 00:25:06,013
Speaker 5: them a little bit to get over there. They paid

483
00:25:06,053 --> 00:25:08,853
Speaker 5: for some of the money to get the side over there,

484
00:25:08,853 --> 00:25:13,133
Speaker 5: and maybe that's the way sides or the ICC can

485
00:25:13,173 --> 00:25:16,013
Speaker 5: help these things happen if they want to grow the game.

486
00:25:16,533 --> 00:25:19,853
Speaker 5: And you know that, I'm quite keen on that. That's

487
00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:22,133
Speaker 5: what the sorts of things that they're going to have

488
00:25:22,173 --> 00:25:25,453
Speaker 5: to do. So I hope that does happen, and these

489
00:25:25,853 --> 00:25:28,333
Speaker 5: other sides are going to get more games from now on.

490
00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:32,893
Speaker 5: It's the same for Afghanistan. It's the same for Ireland

491
00:25:32,893 --> 00:25:37,653
Speaker 5: as well. They've been around since what twenty seventeen. I

492
00:25:37,693 --> 00:25:40,093
Speaker 5: bet they haven't had ten or twelve tests yet. I

493
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,733
Speaker 5: know that Zimbabwe have had a few more recently, but

494
00:25:43,813 --> 00:25:48,573
Speaker 5: I've had ten. Yeah they have, that's right. Yeah, Well

495
00:25:48,573 --> 00:25:51,733
Speaker 5: that's great and that'll be quite costly for them, but

496
00:25:51,773 --> 00:25:55,653
Speaker 5: they'll be improving as they go. So look, hope they

497
00:25:55,973 --> 00:25:59,813
Speaker 5: I hope they get some help. I hope that their cricket,

498
00:26:00,133 --> 00:26:03,573
Speaker 5: the components of their cricket can get better and improve,

499
00:26:04,053 --> 00:26:07,173
Speaker 5: so the coaching, the batting and the fielding and so on.

500
00:26:07,733 --> 00:26:12,133
Speaker 5: And then of course they blessing Mura Baraney isn't too bad,

501
00:26:12,173 --> 00:26:16,653
Speaker 5: does he? I mean, he's he can improve, yep, exactly,

502
00:26:16,773 --> 00:26:21,213
Speaker 5: So good luck to them, Well done New Zealand. But

503
00:26:21,933 --> 00:26:24,733
Speaker 5: let's help Zimbabwe and it was a good thing to do.

504
00:26:25,493 --> 00:26:25,733
Speaker 3: Yeah.

505
00:26:25,813 --> 00:26:28,093
Speaker 4: Well, I think the ICC are trying to do that.

506
00:26:28,133 --> 00:26:31,893
Speaker 4: But what they do with the Test Match Championship, of course, is.

507
00:26:31,893 --> 00:26:34,853
Speaker 3: Going to have an impact on them.

508
00:26:34,853 --> 00:26:36,973
Speaker 4: And I mean that's an issue that we can discuss

509
00:26:37,013 --> 00:26:42,573
Speaker 4: in greater depth further down the track, because you've got

510
00:26:42,573 --> 00:26:45,213
Speaker 4: to have that second tier. They can't play the top tier,

511
00:26:45,293 --> 00:26:49,653
Speaker 4: can they? Afghanistan, Ireland. They've got to earn the right

512
00:26:49,733 --> 00:26:53,013
Speaker 4: to play in the top tier. And I'm a believer.

513
00:26:53,053 --> 00:26:55,173
Speaker 4: I don't know how you feel about the two tier system,

514
00:26:55,213 --> 00:26:57,453
Speaker 4: but I'm a believer in doing it that way and

515
00:26:57,493 --> 00:27:00,973
Speaker 4: having an automatic promotion relegation. And we can probably get

516
00:27:01,013 --> 00:27:02,973
Speaker 4: Lawrence Booth back on that at some stays because we

517
00:27:03,013 --> 00:27:06,213
Speaker 4: talked about that with him when we spoke earlier in

518
00:27:06,213 --> 00:27:06,933
Speaker 4: the year, didn't we.

519
00:27:07,253 --> 00:27:10,773
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the two divisions. I mean, I

520
00:27:10,813 --> 00:27:14,653
Speaker 5: feel a little bit for Pakistan. You know, you think

521
00:27:14,693 --> 00:27:17,653
Speaker 5: a few years ago they were one of the top sides,

522
00:27:17,693 --> 00:27:21,213
Speaker 5: weren't they. I mean they had They've always had outstanding

523
00:27:21,293 --> 00:27:25,973
Speaker 5: individual players, not so much a team concept when you

524
00:27:26,013 --> 00:27:28,973
Speaker 5: think of them, but they are very colorful side. They've

525
00:27:29,013 --> 00:27:33,573
Speaker 5: been you know, they won World Cups and they won

526
00:27:33,653 --> 00:27:37,013
Speaker 5: t twenties, you know, and they're always hard to beat,

527
00:27:37,053 --> 00:27:39,653
Speaker 5: weren't they and test matches when you went back a

528
00:27:39,693 --> 00:27:42,933
Speaker 5: few years. But they've of course, they can't make money

529
00:27:42,973 --> 00:27:46,133
Speaker 5: so much nowadays. India don't play them, you don't get

530
00:27:46,173 --> 00:27:49,733
Speaker 5: an injection of cash and their players don't play in

531
00:27:49,773 --> 00:27:52,933
Speaker 5: the IPL, so that's a bit hard that to me.

532
00:27:53,053 --> 00:27:56,093
Speaker 5: They're going to be quite close to getting up into

533
00:27:56,133 --> 00:27:59,533
Speaker 5: that top division, but they've probably been in the second

534
00:27:59,573 --> 00:28:04,293
Speaker 5: one at the start. And so look what's I think

535
00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:09,053
Speaker 5: these sides that we're talking about now, the lower group,

536
00:28:09,493 --> 00:28:12,133
Speaker 5: they'll be very good for them that they'll be playing,

537
00:28:12,213 --> 00:28:14,133
Speaker 5: I think, and they'll have to work their way up.

538
00:28:14,413 --> 00:28:19,373
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure of the automatic. Maybe they have

539
00:28:19,453 --> 00:28:22,413
Speaker 5: to play a game, a match something like that to

540
00:28:22,453 --> 00:28:25,773
Speaker 5: get up there to prove that they can play in

541
00:28:25,813 --> 00:28:29,213
Speaker 5: that first division and then move through if they beat them.

542
00:28:29,733 --> 00:28:31,733
Speaker 3: Yep, that should be the way that it's done.

543
00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:35,133
Speaker 4: And you know, we look forward to what the ICC

544
00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:38,453
Speaker 4: comes up with when it gets together and decides what

545
00:28:38,493 --> 00:28:41,253
Speaker 4: the Test Match Championship is going to be. Like I'm

546
00:28:41,253 --> 00:28:46,693
Speaker 4: going to ask you a question I haven't prepared you for, Jerry, No, Yes, yeah,

547
00:28:46,773 --> 00:28:49,213
Speaker 4: I was caught. I was caught out, so I hope

548
00:28:49,213 --> 00:28:52,453
Speaker 4: you can be. We had three players on debut in

549
00:28:52,533 --> 00:28:53,853
Speaker 4: the Test match in Bulaweo.

550
00:28:54,493 --> 00:28:56,533
Speaker 3: The last time we had that many.

551
00:28:56,573 --> 00:29:02,133
Speaker 4: We had actually four on debut and that was against Zimbabwe.

552
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:02,853
Speaker 3: Do you remember that.

553
00:29:04,373 --> 00:29:11,493
Speaker 5: Really against Zimbabwe? Whether it was it a home series

554
00:29:11,933 --> 00:29:14,813
Speaker 5: or was it was it was the home series?

555
00:29:17,373 --> 00:29:21,093
Speaker 4: Yes, now tell you what happened away from me, I can't.

556
00:29:21,253 --> 00:29:24,293
Speaker 4: I picked it up after I was given one of

557
00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:28,373
Speaker 4: the names, and one of the names was Greg Loveridge.

558
00:29:29,093 --> 00:29:31,533
Speaker 5: Well that's New Zealand. Of course, the league spy who

559
00:29:31,613 --> 00:29:34,653
Speaker 5: injured injured his hand off the poor.

560
00:29:34,413 --> 00:29:37,933
Speaker 4: Guy that was That was the one. And and then

561
00:29:37,973 --> 00:29:41,573
Speaker 4: I remember I remembered that two others Nathan Astall was

562
00:29:41,573 --> 00:29:43,253
Speaker 4: one of them who made his debut in that Test

563
00:29:43,293 --> 00:29:51,773
Speaker 4: manage Jeff Allen, and another young fast bowler, Robert Kennedy.

564
00:29:53,053 --> 00:29:56,413
Speaker 5: Robert Kennedy, Right, I was going to say Murphy Sewer,

565
00:29:57,013 --> 00:30:00,933
Speaker 5: but Murphy Sewer came in earlier. Yeah he was, wasn't he?

566
00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:04,173
Speaker 5: But I remember him playing in Hamilton, remember against the

567
00:30:04,173 --> 00:30:05,413
Speaker 5: Pakistan side.

568
00:30:05,893 --> 00:30:09,013
Speaker 4: Yes, well that was it. But I mean it's it's interesting,

569
00:30:09,213 --> 00:30:10,533
Speaker 4: you know, we sort of see a lot of this

570
00:30:10,573 --> 00:30:13,253
Speaker 4: cricket and we probably both did that game in Hamilton

571
00:30:13,293 --> 00:30:14,013
Speaker 4: against the Barbie.

572
00:30:14,653 --> 00:30:16,053
Speaker 5: I think we broke his nump.

573
00:30:16,173 --> 00:30:19,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, to remember back who the four

574
00:30:19,293 --> 00:30:23,373
Speaker 4: her who made their debut was a challenging question and

575
00:30:24,013 --> 00:30:26,293
Speaker 4: I had to make a fall of myself and pretend

576
00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:27,893
Speaker 4: I knew without knowing.

577
00:30:29,253 --> 00:30:30,333
Speaker 3: On a live interview.

578
00:30:32,333 --> 00:30:36,373
Speaker 5: No, well, I wouldn't have guessed Nathan Astell. We'll leading

579
00:30:36,413 --> 00:30:38,893
Speaker 5: out to think of him as a long time player,

580
00:30:38,933 --> 00:30:39,293
Speaker 5: don't you.

581
00:30:39,813 --> 00:30:41,893
Speaker 3: Well this is back in ninety six. I think it

582
00:30:41,933 --> 00:30:42,853
Speaker 3: was nineteen ninety six.

583
00:30:42,893 --> 00:30:46,093
Speaker 4: Ok, yeah, so we were just young boys with hair

584
00:30:46,093 --> 00:30:47,093
Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff.

585
00:30:47,213 --> 00:30:50,253
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know we're.

586
00:30:50,093 --> 00:30:52,173
Speaker 3: Going to stand by four. Remember this. We're going to

587
00:30:52,213 --> 00:30:54,853
Speaker 3: recall a match in nineteen ninety two.

588
00:30:55,613 --> 00:31:00,293
Speaker 1: Was Ken Rutherford, Brian Waddell, Jeremy Cooney on the front foot,

589
00:31:00,493 --> 00:31:01,253
Speaker 1: on the front foot.

590
00:31:01,453 --> 00:31:04,573
Speaker 4: We remember this and we go back thirty three years.

591
00:31:04,613 --> 00:31:08,413
Speaker 4: It's quite interesting to reflect on the tours that you

592
00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:11,013
Speaker 4: have made. Thirty three years ago they made their first

593
00:31:11,053 --> 00:31:14,533
Speaker 4: ever tour of Zimbabwe and I've got to say that

594
00:31:14,813 --> 00:31:18,533
Speaker 4: was a bizarre tour in terms of some of the

595
00:31:18,573 --> 00:31:22,373
Speaker 4: things that happened. And somebody who was on that tour

596
00:31:22,493 --> 00:31:28,053
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety two, thirty three years ago. His memory

597
00:31:28,173 --> 00:31:31,693
Speaker 4: is still in place, is Ken Rutherfand who will remember

598
00:31:31,693 --> 00:31:36,053
Speaker 4: the Test match at Harari in particular for a partnership

599
00:31:36,093 --> 00:31:38,013
Speaker 4: with Martin craw Good, we've be able to join us

600
00:31:38,133 --> 00:31:41,573
Speaker 4: ruds thing for your time. You remember much about that

601
00:31:42,053 --> 00:31:44,573
Speaker 4: tour that I think you put one hundred and seventy

602
00:31:44,653 --> 00:31:46,093
Speaker 4: hundred and eighty with Ogan.

603
00:31:45,893 --> 00:31:49,533
Speaker 2: We did Martin and I and yeah, I don remember

604
00:31:49,613 --> 00:31:51,853
Speaker 2: quite about that tour. Was it was a very short one,

605
00:31:51,933 --> 00:31:54,693
Speaker 2: wasn't it? Like the actual cricket was well, a couple

606
00:31:54,733 --> 00:31:57,933
Speaker 2: of one day games and a couple of Test matches.

607
00:31:58,853 --> 00:32:01,533
Speaker 2: The one day games that played during the Test match,

608
00:32:01,573 --> 00:32:03,693
Speaker 2: I think the Hurrah we played the first day of

609
00:32:03,693 --> 00:32:05,733
Speaker 2: the Test match and they had a day off and

610
00:32:05,773 --> 00:32:08,733
Speaker 2: played the day off we played the second day. It

611
00:32:08,773 --> 00:32:13,253
Speaker 2: was a one international, so quite bizarre. I'm picking probably

612
00:32:13,253 --> 00:32:15,493
Speaker 2: wasn't the same pitch, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't.

613
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:18,173
Speaker 2: But I mean when you look at the Zimbabwe team

614
00:32:18,493 --> 00:32:21,053
Speaker 2: back in those days, it was a pretty good side.

615
00:32:21,373 --> 00:32:23,533
Speaker 2: I mean you had the Flower Rothers and Alister Campbell

616
00:32:23,653 --> 00:32:26,973
Speaker 2: was a good player. Andy Pycroft, who of course is

617
00:32:28,053 --> 00:32:31,773
Speaker 2: still Metch refereeing at the moment, and back at ninety two,

618
00:32:31,853 --> 00:32:34,573
Speaker 2: I've been playing against Andy in eighty four when a

619
00:32:34,693 --> 00:32:37,533
Speaker 2: young news on the side went to Zimbabwe. I think

620
00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:39,613
Speaker 2: Andy might have been the captain of that Zimbabwe. So

621
00:32:39,653 --> 00:32:43,813
Speaker 2: I went the fresh out of becoming an independent nation.

622
00:32:44,893 --> 00:32:48,293
Speaker 2: And of course David Houghton, who I recall very much

623
00:32:48,493 --> 00:32:50,453
Speaker 2: is one of the finest players of spin bowling that

624
00:32:51,573 --> 00:32:55,453
Speaker 2: I ever played against and saw so a very handy

625
00:32:55,693 --> 00:32:58,973
Speaker 2: betting lineup. A few bowlers here I can't recall Gary

626
00:32:59,133 --> 00:33:03,973
Speaker 2: Croker or Crocker, David Brain, not too sure about David,

627
00:33:04,573 --> 00:33:08,293
Speaker 2: but a very very final spinner. And John Trikos who

628
00:33:08,613 --> 00:33:11,813
Speaker 2: probably in ninety nine two wards would have been well

629
00:33:11,853 --> 00:33:13,213
Speaker 2: into his early forties.

630
00:33:13,213 --> 00:33:15,893
Speaker 4: I'd imagine, yeah, he was getting on and he played

631
00:33:15,893 --> 00:33:18,333
Speaker 4: well into his forties two if I remember rightly, did

632
00:33:18,333 --> 00:33:21,093
Speaker 4: you think it was quite bizarre to actually start a

633
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:24,933
Speaker 4: Test match and then play do I in the.

634
00:33:24,973 --> 00:33:25,413
Speaker 3: Middle of it.

635
00:33:25,453 --> 00:33:28,693
Speaker 4: They wanted to make sure the Saturday crowd was a

636
00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:31,213
Speaker 4: big one for the for the ODI because that's what

637
00:33:31,293 --> 00:33:34,493
Speaker 4: people were watching even in those days, wasn't it?

638
00:33:34,493 --> 00:33:34,973
Speaker 5: It was?

639
00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 2: And I do recall that ODI on was on the

640
00:33:39,093 --> 00:33:43,613
Speaker 2: weekend Brian because it was a big crowd and Zimbawi

641
00:33:43,693 --> 00:33:46,613
Speaker 2: better first than I see from the schoolcard. Got two

642
00:33:46,693 --> 00:33:51,893
Speaker 2: silly one memorable in the first wicket partnership Andy Flower

643
00:33:51,973 --> 00:33:55,253
Speaker 2: and Grant Flair. How how how the wicket the first

644
00:33:55,293 --> 00:33:57,973
Speaker 2: we was taken. It was Depec Patel. I remember being

645
00:33:58,013 --> 00:34:00,453
Speaker 2: at cover of the mid wicked and I think Craye

646
00:34:00,533 --> 00:34:02,373
Speaker 2: was a cover of wick at the other side, obviously

647
00:34:02,413 --> 00:34:06,173
Speaker 2: left hand right hand in combination. And I remember they

648
00:34:06,173 --> 00:34:08,733
Speaker 2: were just playing tip and run there after Peck basically

649
00:34:08,733 --> 00:34:10,813
Speaker 2: just dropping the ball with their feet and running and

650
00:34:11,133 --> 00:34:14,053
Speaker 2: the non striker which if a Flower wanted to be well,

651
00:34:14,053 --> 00:34:16,053
Speaker 2: they're both doing it. Were halfway down the pitch for

652
00:34:16,173 --> 00:34:19,653
Speaker 2: the time, the fewer to grab the ball, so could

653
00:34:19,653 --> 00:34:21,373
Speaker 2: warn them and warn them and warn them, look at

654
00:34:21,373 --> 00:34:23,093
Speaker 2: you if you're back up again, We're going to take

655
00:34:23,093 --> 00:34:26,453
Speaker 2: the balls off and do the men cad And eventually

656
00:34:26,453 --> 00:34:29,213
Speaker 2: our patients was so we tested and it happened, and

657
00:34:29,693 --> 00:34:32,493
Speaker 2: I remember the crowd, the very boisterous crowd, a few

658
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:34,853
Speaker 2: Castle lagers under their belt. They didn't like it much.

659
00:34:35,173 --> 00:34:37,613
Speaker 9: To tell them we could take it continues the attack

660
00:34:38,053 --> 00:34:41,813
Speaker 9: and has finally run out and he brunt the bar

661
00:34:41,973 --> 00:34:44,093
Speaker 9: and he's done the man Cad. He's been backing up

662
00:34:44,133 --> 00:34:46,453
Speaker 9: and backing up the whole time, and to back the

663
00:34:46,533 --> 00:34:49,853
Speaker 9: Dell has warned him on numerous occasions and has finally

664
00:34:49,973 --> 00:34:53,733
Speaker 9: run him out of the non strikers again for continuous

665
00:34:53,773 --> 00:34:57,253
Speaker 9: backing up and the boat an unwritten lore of the

666
00:34:57,293 --> 00:35:00,293
Speaker 9: game that's not to be done. But I guess there

667
00:35:00,293 --> 00:35:01,973
Speaker 9: comes a time when it must.

668
00:35:01,893 --> 00:35:04,773
Speaker 4: Be got divide to Yeah, they love to clean out

669
00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:05,853
Speaker 4: that Castle Laga.

670
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:09,613
Speaker 3: It was a great ground, wasn't it? In Harari?

671
00:35:10,053 --> 00:35:14,053
Speaker 4: It was right next door to Robert mcgarby's residents the prison.

672
00:35:14,093 --> 00:35:18,013
Speaker 4: You weren't allowed to walk down the street outside his residence,

673
00:35:18,053 --> 00:35:22,333
Speaker 4: which I found, to my cost was almost being arrested

674
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:27,773
Speaker 4: by a baynut wielding soldier. But they had good facilities,

675
00:35:27,813 --> 00:35:30,333
Speaker 4: didn't they. And I think it was the local drinking

676
00:35:30,413 --> 00:35:33,293
Speaker 4: establishment too, wasn't it inside the ground there?

677
00:35:33,693 --> 00:35:33,933
Speaker 5: Yeah?

678
00:35:33,933 --> 00:35:36,613
Speaker 2: I know quite well was because when I spent some

679
00:35:36,653 --> 00:35:39,653
Speaker 2: time in Southern Africa, I used to go Harari recently

680
00:35:39,693 --> 00:35:41,613
Speaker 2: off and I used to go to the pub called

681
00:35:41,613 --> 00:35:46,253
Speaker 2: the Kegan Maiden that was killed and it was a

682
00:35:46,253 --> 00:35:49,333
Speaker 2: buddy good spot. I well recall a story of a

683
00:35:49,413 --> 00:35:51,773
Speaker 2: very good maid of mine and Joe Burg a wealthy guy.

684
00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:55,973
Speaker 2: He owned a helicopter and he decided one evening that

685
00:35:56,053 --> 00:35:59,653
Speaker 2: the next day England were playing Zimbabwe in a one

686
00:35:59,693 --> 00:36:01,613
Speaker 2: day in to national he thought he'd take his helicopter

687
00:36:01,773 --> 00:36:06,733
Speaker 2: from then Siria Airport and Johannesburg to Harari can go

688
00:36:06,773 --> 00:36:08,293
Speaker 2: and watch the cricket for the day, which he did.

689
00:36:08,453 --> 00:36:10,053
Speaker 2: A couple of mates and they got as far as

690
00:36:10,093 --> 00:36:12,973
Speaker 2: the kegan made and never got outside the kicking bag.

691
00:36:13,013 --> 00:36:14,613
Speaker 2: And they could have been in any pub anywhere in

692
00:36:14,653 --> 00:36:16,493
Speaker 2: the world and watched the cricket. But they've taken their

693
00:36:17,053 --> 00:36:20,293
Speaker 2: helicopter to the ground. That's a terrific ground and the

694
00:36:20,333 --> 00:36:23,253
Speaker 2: facilities are very very good and terrific hetmosphere. There are

695
00:36:23,253 --> 00:36:25,573
Speaker 2: two wards and the pitch had a bit. I remember

696
00:36:26,133 --> 00:36:29,253
Speaker 2: the likes of your Peter Wilson's earlier time, and these

697
00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:31,333
Speaker 2: quick bowlers they certainly got a bit out of it.

698
00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:33,293
Speaker 2: You know. Brandis, of course is there bit quick at

699
00:36:33,333 --> 00:36:36,973
Speaker 2: the time on the ninety two tour, and he was

700
00:36:36,973 --> 00:36:39,573
Speaker 2: a good bowler, big tall slinging action in me.

701
00:36:40,413 --> 00:36:43,933
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then of course they had he streaked, didn't they.

702
00:36:44,693 --> 00:36:47,253
Speaker 4: He came later a few years after that, but boy

703
00:36:47,293 --> 00:36:50,293
Speaker 4: he was. He was a very very good cricketer. Remembering

704
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:53,773
Speaker 4: back to that Test match, the partnership with Martin Crowe.

705
00:36:53,853 --> 00:36:56,013
Speaker 4: You would have had a few partnerships with him in

706
00:36:56,053 --> 00:36:59,093
Speaker 4: the time you played Test cricket together.

707
00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:02,373
Speaker 3: He'd be a joyed about was, wouldn't he.

708
00:37:03,653 --> 00:37:07,053
Speaker 2: I've always said there's two batsmen that I feel absolutely

709
00:37:07,093 --> 00:37:11,653
Speaker 2: honored to the other end to Watson and Martin was

710
00:37:11,653 --> 00:37:14,853
Speaker 2: was number one by some stretch. But I did play

711
00:37:14,853 --> 00:37:18,133
Speaker 2: a bit of cricket and in st Abriga at Transvold

712
00:37:18,173 --> 00:37:20,373
Speaker 2: and how Ting and Daryl Cullenan played for a couple

713
00:37:20,413 --> 00:37:22,413
Speaker 2: of years with us, and my word, what a fine

714
00:37:22,413 --> 00:37:25,693
Speaker 2: player he was, and a terrific player. Fast by and

715
00:37:25,733 --> 00:37:29,413
Speaker 2: this similary ilk really to the way Crowry played, you know,

716
00:37:29,773 --> 00:37:33,093
Speaker 2: classical techniques. Loved the pauls and the hooks and the cutshots.

717
00:37:33,133 --> 00:37:36,493
Speaker 2: So and Crowe and I to put on have a

718
00:37:36,573 --> 00:37:39,253
Speaker 2: few good partnerships for a call. And then one day

719
00:37:39,293 --> 00:37:42,293
Speaker 2: came a Karasbrook and Duned and against India and managed

720
00:37:42,293 --> 00:37:45,933
Speaker 2: Probaco and Capel Dev and these guys were were bowling.

721
00:37:46,573 --> 00:37:49,093
Speaker 2: I just just wanted to get a single, get get

722
00:37:49,133 --> 00:37:51,253
Speaker 2: Martin on stride and he just completely destroyed them at

723
00:37:51,253 --> 00:37:55,293
Speaker 2: the other end. So great player and on in this

724
00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:57,733
Speaker 2: tour of ninety two, of course he was captain. This

725
00:37:57,973 --> 00:38:01,093
Speaker 2: probably was the first tour Brian after the ninety two.

726
00:38:01,133 --> 00:38:04,573
Speaker 2: Will cupolded me, I don't think we did tour after

727
00:38:04,613 --> 00:38:06,453
Speaker 2: the ninety you know, that would have been March ninety

728
00:38:06,453 --> 00:38:09,813
Speaker 2: two and imasion. This is put a No two, isn't it.

729
00:38:10,373 --> 00:38:10,613
Speaker 3: Yeah?

730
00:38:10,773 --> 00:38:13,213
Speaker 4: And not after long after that. I think he went

731
00:38:13,253 --> 00:38:16,213
Speaker 4: off to Sri Lanka as well, didn't you after that tour.

732
00:38:16,813 --> 00:38:19,653
Speaker 4: I remember there was a bit of controversy at the

733
00:38:19,853 --> 00:38:24,133
Speaker 4: end of that Test match, Martin didn't dear himself to

734
00:38:24,173 --> 00:38:28,293
Speaker 4: the to the local fans and their sponsors.

735
00:38:28,573 --> 00:38:31,693
Speaker 2: Was a sign on the boundary something like that.

736
00:38:32,173 --> 00:38:34,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, since it's something like that, Yeah, yeah, No, they

737
00:38:34,853 --> 00:38:37,653
Speaker 4: had a They just come into Test cricket and they

738
00:38:37,773 --> 00:38:41,093
Speaker 4: played India as their first Test match at home and

739
00:38:41,173 --> 00:38:44,493
Speaker 4: it had been draw and the sign was up there.

740
00:38:44,493 --> 00:38:47,293
Speaker 4: Of course Castle Laga was plasted all the way around

741
00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:50,213
Speaker 4: the ground there. But on top of that sign was

742
00:38:50,573 --> 00:38:55,293
Speaker 4: Zimbabwe the only unbeaten Test team, And of course, when

743
00:38:55,613 --> 00:38:59,533
Speaker 4: Hogan had won that Test match, he decided that that

744
00:38:59,693 --> 00:39:01,773
Speaker 4: was no longer true.

745
00:39:02,493 --> 00:39:07,453
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I do recall that the Test match itself,

746
00:39:08,533 --> 00:39:11,573
Speaker 2: remember it in that back bowl very very well. I

747
00:39:11,573 --> 00:39:13,573
Speaker 2: think it was two really good bowling for the Murvie

748
00:39:13,653 --> 00:39:16,533
Speaker 2: so got fired for in the first things. And you

749
00:39:16,573 --> 00:39:18,653
Speaker 2: know when Movie got it right then you know the

750
00:39:18,733 --> 00:39:22,133
Speaker 2: left arm swing was from off to the leg and

751
00:39:22,253 --> 00:39:24,573
Speaker 2: to the right hand. It was was always you know,

752
00:39:24,813 --> 00:39:27,013
Speaker 2: it was always pretty awesome when he got when he

753
00:39:27,093 --> 00:39:29,893
Speaker 2: got the rhythm right, dip that bowl like a dream

754
00:39:29,933 --> 00:39:31,573
Speaker 2: and on a wick it was just to tear the

755
00:39:31,653 --> 00:39:32,773
Speaker 2: last and the fourth.

756
00:39:32,573 --> 00:39:37,613
Speaker 4: Things interesting to remember that match now and he's yeald

757
00:39:37,653 --> 00:39:39,693
Speaker 4: the rooms and Barbie, did you get much time to

758
00:39:39,933 --> 00:39:43,453
Speaker 4: keep a check on the team playing in the match there?

759
00:39:43,493 --> 00:39:46,133
Speaker 4: And particularly the bowling of Matt Henry Boy, he's had

760
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:47,773
Speaker 4: a good eighteen months, isn't he.

761
00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:50,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been the top I think he isn't the

762
00:39:50,973 --> 00:39:54,653
Speaker 2: top five to six bottles in the world at the moment, Brian,

763
00:39:54,773 --> 00:39:57,293
Speaker 2: isn't he Matt? And when you think he said when

764
00:39:57,293 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 2: he when he came onto the scene as he was

765
00:39:59,293 --> 00:40:01,933
Speaker 2: sort of third or fourth foot, or wasn't he to

766
00:40:02,173 --> 00:40:05,573
Speaker 2: bolt Soudi and Wagner and probably didn't get the best

767
00:40:05,573 --> 00:40:08,973
Speaker 2: opportunities in terms of the best. Didn't get the new

768
00:40:08,973 --> 00:40:11,453
Speaker 2: ball for a start, did he the first three or

769
00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:14,133
Speaker 2: four years of his career. But he always sensed that

770
00:40:14,133 --> 00:40:15,813
Speaker 2: there was something there. And certainly when he went and

771
00:40:15,853 --> 00:40:18,653
Speaker 2: played county cricket for likes of Worcester and other teams

772
00:40:18,853 --> 00:40:22,453
Speaker 2: in the county Championship, he was always one of the

773
00:40:22,533 --> 00:40:25,533
Speaker 2: best bowlers in four d A cricket and county crickets.

774
00:40:25,533 --> 00:40:27,573
Speaker 2: So you always thought there was something there, And certainly,

775
00:40:27,573 --> 00:40:30,533
Speaker 2: as you said, over the last eighteen to twenty four months,

776
00:40:30,573 --> 00:40:33,173
Speaker 2: he's he swept all before him, and good on him.

777
00:40:33,253 --> 00:40:35,453
Speaker 2: The a bowl was quickly enough to me. He gets

778
00:40:35,533 --> 00:40:37,813
Speaker 2: up around the sort of late one thirties one forty

779
00:40:38,053 --> 00:40:41,653
Speaker 2: regular occasion, he swings the all nicely. He's got this

780
00:40:41,813 --> 00:40:44,213
Speaker 2: what they call the wobble scene delivery now, which they're

781
00:40:44,253 --> 00:40:47,053
Speaker 2: all talking about, which is to my eye anyway, it's

782
00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:51,533
Speaker 2: a bit of a cross Semer and Nos, he's got

783
00:40:51,573 --> 00:40:54,453
Speaker 2: it all, and he's he's kind of fulfilling that kind

784
00:40:54,493 --> 00:40:56,893
Speaker 2: of birth now as the elder statesman to some extent,

785
00:40:57,253 --> 00:40:59,693
Speaker 2: he's not that old, but he's with all these new

786
00:40:59,733 --> 00:41:03,133
Speaker 2: young players like Sears and are all coming through the system.

787
00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:06,213
Speaker 2: He's the perfect foil in terms of showing these youngsters

788
00:41:06,253 --> 00:41:06,773
Speaker 2: how to do it.

789
00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:09,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, encouraging science for New Zealand, doesn't it. You know

790
00:41:09,573 --> 00:41:13,733
Speaker 4: we won the T twenty competition there and you know

791
00:41:13,773 --> 00:41:16,893
Speaker 4: we're developing a lot of good players at the top

792
00:41:16,973 --> 00:41:18,493
Speaker 4: level and they're getting clining at cricket.

793
00:41:19,573 --> 00:41:20,213
Speaker 5: Yeah they are.

794
00:41:20,413 --> 00:41:22,253
Speaker 2: And I guess it's the nation of the Beast, now,

795
00:41:22,493 --> 00:41:25,413
Speaker 2: wasn't it. With the franchise cricket around the world, we

796
00:41:25,893 --> 00:41:29,733
Speaker 2: can't rely on always having our best of best available,

797
00:41:29,813 --> 00:41:32,453
Speaker 2: so we've got to nursery out our depth. I can't

798
00:41:33,013 --> 00:41:35,733
Speaker 2: recall a time in U Zealand cricket history, Brian where

799
00:41:35,773 --> 00:41:37,653
Speaker 2: we've probably had as much depth that we've got. We

800
00:41:38,053 --> 00:41:42,133
Speaker 2: seem to have probably a group if you include the

801
00:41:42,173 --> 00:41:44,733
Speaker 2: franchise players, probably got a group of twenty to twenty

802
00:41:44,733 --> 00:41:48,853
Speaker 2: five who any given time could play for New Zealand

803
00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:51,013
Speaker 2: and a number of really good all round us there.

804
00:41:52,053 --> 00:41:55,693
Speaker 2: Nathan Smith's a good player with O'Rourke's incredible talent with

805
00:41:56,213 --> 00:41:59,493
Speaker 2: the ball. Now we've got a whole swagger batsman who

806
00:41:59,573 --> 00:42:03,613
Speaker 2: can do do various jobs for us. So Gary Stead,

807
00:42:03,613 --> 00:42:06,373
Speaker 2: you've got to say he's left a heck of a

808
00:42:06,453 --> 00:42:09,053
Speaker 2: legacy for Rob Waller to to continue with.

809
00:42:09,653 --> 00:42:13,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's exciting from New Zealand and just to finish off,

810
00:42:13,493 --> 00:42:18,693
Speaker 4: I would be unwise to not reflect on your role

811
00:42:18,813 --> 00:42:22,013
Speaker 4: now a spatchman from the Deep South.

812
00:42:22,413 --> 00:42:26,293
Speaker 3: In charge at Northern Districts. How's it going with the Knights?

813
00:42:27,053 --> 00:42:30,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going well. What's today it's I've been about

814
00:42:30,653 --> 00:42:33,373
Speaker 2: three months in the job now once it's for four months,

815
00:42:33,413 --> 00:42:36,413
Speaker 2: it's it's going well. It's it's great to be back

816
00:42:36,413 --> 00:42:39,453
Speaker 2: involved with cricket. Obviously, there are a few challenges in

817
00:42:39,493 --> 00:42:41,173
Speaker 2: the game. I think a lot of sports around the

818
00:42:41,213 --> 00:42:45,093
Speaker 2: countryside have have challenges to his participation, particularly in the

819
00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:51,133
Speaker 2: recreation or community space and creckit's no different. Fundings an

820
00:42:51,133 --> 00:42:53,613
Speaker 2: issue will continue to be but we've just got to

821
00:42:53,653 --> 00:42:55,533
Speaker 2: work with the resources we have and do the best

822
00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,613
Speaker 2: that we possibly can. And I think as key we

823
00:42:58,733 --> 00:43:01,173
Speaker 2: cricketers in the Creditt community here where we're pretty good

824
00:43:01,173 --> 00:43:03,093
Speaker 2: at doing that. We're pretty good with making the most

825
00:43:03,093 --> 00:43:06,813
Speaker 2: of what we've got so enjoying it. It's obviously nd

826
00:43:07,053 --> 00:43:09,893
Speaker 2: being the region that it's plenty of miles to do

827
00:43:10,053 --> 00:43:12,493
Speaker 2: up and down there, up to the far North and

828
00:43:12,533 --> 00:43:16,053
Speaker 2: across the Poverty Bay and up to places like the

829
00:43:16,293 --> 00:43:19,373
Speaker 2: Mount mot and Fokatani and obviously pook A Cali place

830
00:43:19,373 --> 00:43:20,893
Speaker 2: to let to so a lot, a lot of bass,

831
00:43:21,173 --> 00:43:24,053
Speaker 2: but she was. It's looking forward to the first season,

832
00:43:24,053 --> 00:43:25,973
Speaker 2: looking for looking forward to doing a few laps of

833
00:43:26,013 --> 00:43:27,613
Speaker 2: the grounds around around our region.

834
00:43:28,213 --> 00:43:31,053
Speaker 4: That's great, Thanks very much for joining us and sharing

835
00:43:31,093 --> 00:43:34,053
Speaker 4: us some memories from Zimbabwe. Hopefully we'll see you and

836
00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:37,893
Speaker 4: perhaps talk to you throughout the summerment's coming up, because

837
00:43:38,453 --> 00:43:42,253
Speaker 4: you know you've got international teams up in that part

838
00:43:42,293 --> 00:43:42,613
Speaker 4: of the world.

839
00:43:42,613 --> 00:43:43,253
Speaker 3: I think first of.

840
00:43:43,213 --> 00:43:46,373
Speaker 2: October Australia player at the Bayo weren't they three three

841
00:43:46,413 --> 00:43:49,093
Speaker 2: t twenties at the start of October and then towards

842
00:43:49,093 --> 00:43:51,213
Speaker 2: the end of October and the here to play a

843
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:52,893
Speaker 2: few a few fifty over games. We've got one here

844
00:43:52,893 --> 00:43:55,573
Speaker 2: at Sedam Park, so we'll see how Brendan McCallum and

845
00:43:55,613 --> 00:43:57,693
Speaker 2: Tim Selli and Jeet and Pattel and me. The brains

846
00:43:57,693 --> 00:44:00,293
Speaker 2: Trust of England now so very key we look to it,

847
00:44:00,293 --> 00:44:00,693
Speaker 2: doesn't it.

848
00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:04,613
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, well we'll welcome them as we generally do,

849
00:44:04,853 --> 00:44:06,453
Speaker 4: so that'll be great to see.

850
00:44:06,493 --> 00:44:11,613
Speaker 3: Thanks your time. Rudds to do you sometime during the season. Thanks, Ken.

851
00:44:11,693 --> 00:44:16,253
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were certainly some bizarre moments in that series

852
00:44:16,413 --> 00:44:19,133
Speaker 4: in Zimbabwe, but it was doing it. But then it

853
00:44:19,213 --> 00:44:23,013
Speaker 4: was our first tour to that part of the world,

854
00:44:23,173 --> 00:44:29,013
Speaker 4: Jerry and I remember vividly the situation with Martin Crowe.

855
00:44:29,053 --> 00:44:32,573
Speaker 4: Martin got offended by this sign, big sign on the

856
00:44:32,573 --> 00:44:38,133
Speaker 4: ground that said Zimbabwe the only unbeaten Test match team

857
00:44:38,413 --> 00:44:41,773
Speaker 4: and he went up there and upset the fans by

858
00:44:41,893 --> 00:44:44,573
Speaker 4: ripping it down because he's ild had won the Test

859
00:44:44,813 --> 00:44:49,293
Speaker 4: in Harari and it was it was truly Hogan stuff,

860
00:44:49,373 --> 00:44:49,773
Speaker 4: wasn't it.

861
00:44:50,853 --> 00:44:54,413
Speaker 5: That would be that, that would be Hogue. He would

862
00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:56,893
Speaker 5: certainly try and I know he got one hundred and forty,

863
00:44:57,013 --> 00:44:59,013
Speaker 5: didn't he in one of those innings he batted?

864
00:44:59,453 --> 00:44:59,893
Speaker 3: That's right.

865
00:45:01,173 --> 00:45:04,973
Speaker 5: That would have been a high motivation for him to

866
00:45:06,213 --> 00:45:11,133
Speaker 5: let them know he and Rudds had you just talking

867
00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:13,413
Speaker 5: to us. He did quite well as well, got runs

868
00:45:13,413 --> 00:45:16,373
Speaker 5: in both innings, didn't he. And Murphy Sewer was in

869
00:45:16,413 --> 00:45:18,573
Speaker 5: that game actually, I think.

870
00:45:19,413 --> 00:45:20,413
Speaker 3: He might have got five or.

871
00:45:20,413 --> 00:45:26,853
Speaker 5: Six, did he? Yeah, well, that that Zimbabwe side. If

872
00:45:26,893 --> 00:45:28,893
Speaker 5: I'm right or wrong, what's had the had the two

873
00:45:28,973 --> 00:45:33,773
Speaker 5: Flower brothers, didn't it? Andy and Grant yep, the bowler,

874
00:45:33,773 --> 00:45:36,573
Speaker 5: and Andy of course the wicket keeper who became the

875
00:45:36,573 --> 00:45:40,133
Speaker 5: coach of England. They had Alistair Campbell who was another

876
00:45:40,173 --> 00:45:43,893
Speaker 5: one that I do remember. And of Edo Brandis of

877
00:45:43,933 --> 00:45:48,253
Speaker 5: course the chicken farmer. We remember that joke, but we

878
00:45:48,333 --> 00:45:53,493
Speaker 5: can't say that John Tricos, the old off spinner. Remember

879
00:45:53,533 --> 00:45:56,093
Speaker 5: he came over in the one in the World Cup

880
00:45:56,293 --> 00:46:00,693
Speaker 5: when it was in New Zealand and Australia. Yes, and

881
00:46:00,773 --> 00:46:03,493
Speaker 5: I think Dave fours And too might have been the

882
00:46:03,493 --> 00:46:07,213
Speaker 5: captain at that time. They see how they gathered together

883
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:10,533
Speaker 5: at various times a happy coincidence. You can get some

884
00:46:10,653 --> 00:46:13,853
Speaker 5: quite good players together. And if you remember the heath

885
00:46:13,933 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 5: Street phase too, wasn't it Brothers were there they actually

886
00:46:18,573 --> 00:46:21,653
Speaker 5: beat New Zealand I think in Auckland at one stage too.

887
00:46:22,493 --> 00:46:25,613
Speaker 5: They can get they can actually put together some good players.

888
00:46:25,933 --> 00:46:27,653
Speaker 5: They'll be okay.

889
00:46:27,933 --> 00:46:31,533
Speaker 4: Yep, and hopefully they're able to develop the kind of

890
00:46:31,573 --> 00:46:35,893
Speaker 4: players because we saw, you know, glimpses of that Mazarabani

891
00:46:36,453 --> 00:46:39,733
Speaker 4: Bennett didn't get too many runs. I suppose it was

892
00:46:39,733 --> 00:46:41,853
Speaker 4: disappointing they had to bring a thirty nine year old

893
00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:45,613
Speaker 4: back to bet best for them Brendan Taylor after serving.

894
00:46:45,333 --> 00:46:46,533
Speaker 3: His free expension.

895
00:46:47,293 --> 00:46:50,333
Speaker 4: But I remember him on a previous tour over there.

896
00:46:50,973 --> 00:46:53,853
Speaker 4: He was playing, So you know they've got the will.

897
00:46:53,893 --> 00:46:58,973
Speaker 4: That's whether I've got the people enough people to develop

898
00:46:58,973 --> 00:47:01,133
Speaker 4: their game. But I think the point you made earlier, Jerry,

899
00:47:01,173 --> 00:47:06,013
Speaker 4: about sending a teams is probably a good run because

900
00:47:06,253 --> 00:47:08,613
Speaker 4: when you captain decided the Pakistan and eighty f War,

901
00:47:09,493 --> 00:47:11,813
Speaker 4: some of the players came from a tour of m Barbwie,

902
00:47:11,853 --> 00:47:16,813
Speaker 4: didn't They an a team from New Zealand went there

903
00:47:17,053 --> 00:47:18,973
Speaker 4: prior to the trip to Pakistan.

904
00:47:19,853 --> 00:47:22,893
Speaker 5: They did. That was the one where Chopp was captain actually,

905
00:47:22,933 --> 00:47:26,293
Speaker 5: and that one and we joined them. Yeah, the rest

906
00:47:26,333 --> 00:47:33,133
Speaker 5: of us joined them in Pakistan. So that's right. And look,

907
00:47:33,493 --> 00:47:36,813
Speaker 5: let's hope that they can get things together because the

908
00:47:36,813 --> 00:47:39,133
Speaker 5: more that more people that play the game was the better.

909
00:47:39,733 --> 00:47:43,093
Speaker 4: Yep too, right, Well, I hope you're enjoying your Metro

910
00:47:43,413 --> 00:47:46,813
Speaker 4: Bank and I'm sure, I'm sure you're watching the Hundred.

911
00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:48,453
Speaker 3: I'll bet you're watching the bit of the Hundred.

912
00:47:49,053 --> 00:47:52,693
Speaker 5: Haven't seen the game yet? Was haven't seen of course,

913
00:47:53,333 --> 00:48:00,053
Speaker 5: So you know me, I try I try to just

914
00:48:00,093 --> 00:48:03,253
Speaker 5: stick to the things I enjoy. Now, I think we've

915
00:48:03,253 --> 00:48:07,773
Speaker 5: got to, don't. We have our times limited and we've

916
00:48:07,813 --> 00:48:09,533
Speaker 5: got to week. We've got to do things that we

917
00:48:09,693 --> 00:48:12,253
Speaker 5: that mean things to us, not not things that are

918
00:48:12,333 --> 00:48:17,853
Speaker 5: meaning less. So no, I won't be watching any of those,

919
00:48:18,813 --> 00:48:21,253
Speaker 5: but I'll be there with the Metro Cup. You're right,

920
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:24,213
Speaker 5: quite right, I'll be there. I think my next one's

921
00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:26,093
Speaker 5: next week sometime. Yep.

922
00:48:26,453 --> 00:48:28,813
Speaker 4: I'll enjoy your holiday over there, and you'll be back

923
00:48:28,853 --> 00:48:30,253
Speaker 4: to a nice cold.

924
00:48:30,013 --> 00:48:33,613
Speaker 3: Winter of the waders at the moment, so doubt the

925
00:48:34,093 --> 00:48:34,853
Speaker 3: enjoy yourself.

926
00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:37,533
Speaker 5: Yeah right, Well, I have to change my jarmis when

927
00:48:37,533 --> 00:48:38,693
Speaker 5: I come home, that's for sure.

928
00:48:39,173 --> 00:48:40,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, long jammies, aren't.

929
00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:45,453
Speaker 5: I bet you we're long jarmies? Do you want you? Yeah?

930
00:48:46,293 --> 00:48:48,773
Speaker 5: That's got to keep walk ye good man.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Summer.

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934
00:49:05,413 --> 00:49:08,133
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