1 00:00:06,815 --> 00:00:10,655 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp 2 00:00:10,895 --> 00:00:11,975 Speaker 1: from News Talk said, be. 3 00:00:12,735 --> 00:00:13,455 Speaker 2: Right, climb pass. 4 00:00:13,535 --> 00:00:18,815 Speaker 3: Good morning, sir, good morning, Sorry to hear about your car. Ah. 5 00:00:19,175 --> 00:00:21,775 Speaker 2: I mean, in some ways it's like it's kind of funny, 6 00:00:21,775 --> 00:00:26,415 Speaker 2: but in other ways it's like, hey, how was wingspan? 7 00:00:26,895 --> 00:00:31,335 Speaker 3: Wingspan was wonderful? Be great as per usual and just 8 00:00:31,375 --> 00:00:33,775 Speaker 3: a little bit. I came back on Friday night late, 9 00:00:34,335 --> 00:00:37,335 Speaker 3: or that Friday afternoon late, actually was really late. And 10 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:42,095 Speaker 3: I've been I'm having a cataract operation in two days time, 11 00:00:42,135 --> 00:00:44,335 Speaker 3: so I'm not that I'm looking forward to it, literally 12 00:00:44,575 --> 00:00:48,175 Speaker 3: not looking forward to it. But I got I got 13 00:00:49,255 --> 00:00:51,535 Speaker 3: troubles with my ears the whole time. They block up 14 00:00:51,535 --> 00:00:54,455 Speaker 3: and things. Yeah, and I just want to say thank 15 00:00:54,535 --> 00:00:59,215 Speaker 3: you to clean ears in in Christians. Yes, at the 16 00:00:59,295 --> 00:01:02,935 Speaker 3: last moment, and that was that was beyond any you know, 17 00:01:03,535 --> 00:01:06,935 Speaker 3: they just did it. Copple plays Hillmoorton go and as 18 00:01:06,935 --> 00:01:11,295 Speaker 3: she's wonderful. And the second thing is that's a totally 19 00:01:11,295 --> 00:01:14,775 Speaker 3: different thing, is that? And that was that's a that's 20 00:01:14,815 --> 00:01:18,055 Speaker 3: a really good bit of news. This this weekend, we 21 00:01:18,055 --> 00:01:19,935 Speaker 3: we sorted out that we're going to do a tour 22 00:01:19,975 --> 00:01:23,615 Speaker 3: to the Chatam Islands. Wow. So I used to do 23 00:01:23,695 --> 00:01:28,175 Speaker 3: that before with with Peter Fleming. And so if you're interested, folks, 24 00:01:28,375 --> 00:01:30,215 Speaker 3: go and have a look. And if you want to go, 25 00:01:30,335 --> 00:01:32,335 Speaker 3: it's a wonderful place. I've been there a couple of times. 26 00:01:33,415 --> 00:01:36,655 Speaker 3: The tour company dot co dot inzet. The tour company 27 00:01:36,695 --> 00:01:40,295 Speaker 3: is one word dot co dot inzet. Chatterm Islands, Gosh, 28 00:01:40,335 --> 00:01:44,615 Speaker 3: the croon garden, the hapoopoo, the dendro clyffs, the flora. Oh, 29 00:01:44,695 --> 00:01:49,215 Speaker 3: it's just unbelievable that place. Honestly, I'm looking forward to that. 30 00:01:49,615 --> 00:01:52,335 Speaker 3: Chatterm Island forgets the nots huge plants. 31 00:01:52,375 --> 00:01:54,935 Speaker 2: Anyway, go on, ye fly over obviously and then what 32 00:01:55,055 --> 00:01:56,935 Speaker 2: a couple of days on the island and back by 33 00:01:56,975 --> 00:01:58,375 Speaker 2: the week. Yeah, Oh fantastic. 34 00:01:58,695 --> 00:02:04,375 Speaker 3: Mucking it around, mucking around aki Aki. It's just wonderful. Shoot. 35 00:02:04,615 --> 00:02:08,455 Speaker 3: They've got all these crazy birds headed endemic to the chats, 36 00:02:08,575 --> 00:02:11,455 Speaker 3: like the wood pigeon. It's about one and a half 37 00:02:11,495 --> 00:02:14,895 Speaker 3: times the size of a normal wood pigeon there, and 38 00:02:15,455 --> 00:02:18,375 Speaker 3: you're not only hid them fly over, you've got to 39 00:02:18,455 --> 00:02:20,295 Speaker 3: watch out that you don't get done from the But 40 00:02:21,255 --> 00:02:22,015 Speaker 3: like your car. 41 00:02:22,855 --> 00:02:25,975 Speaker 2: It would look the same, I'll tell you it's good 42 00:02:26,055 --> 00:02:28,535 Speaker 2: quality soil there in the white cut and the paddocks 43 00:02:28,575 --> 00:02:31,455 Speaker 2: there it's it's light and loamy, and you know, there 44 00:02:31,535 --> 00:02:33,095 Speaker 2: was a little bit of grass and I reckon if 45 00:02:33,095 --> 00:02:35,415 Speaker 2: I left it long enough, i'd have a decent grazing 46 00:02:35,495 --> 00:02:38,535 Speaker 2: on the side of the truck that much. Right, Let's 47 00:02:38,535 --> 00:02:41,015 Speaker 2: get amongst it, Ellie, A very good morning to you. 48 00:02:41,775 --> 00:02:42,335 Speaker 4: Good morning. 49 00:02:44,375 --> 00:02:46,175 Speaker 3: Yes you can. He's handed me the phone. 50 00:02:46,615 --> 00:02:48,215 Speaker 4: Thank you. 51 00:02:48,215 --> 00:02:52,695 Speaker 3: There, rud I'm here and Darling, Hello, I've got. 52 00:02:52,575 --> 00:02:56,335 Speaker 4: These funny little things running around my kitchen bench, teeny 53 00:02:56,455 --> 00:02:59,335 Speaker 4: tiny little black things about, you know, as big as 54 00:02:59,335 --> 00:03:01,975 Speaker 4: a pin head, and I don't know what they are. 55 00:03:02,095 --> 00:03:06,295 Speaker 3: That's funny, Yeah, they might be funny. But the problem 56 00:03:06,575 --> 00:03:09,815 Speaker 3: is we are talking about I think sixty thousand different 57 00:03:09,855 --> 00:03:12,775 Speaker 3: species of insects in the world now in New Zealand, 58 00:03:13,335 --> 00:03:16,015 Speaker 3: and without actually a picture of what they are or 59 00:03:16,095 --> 00:03:20,615 Speaker 3: anything like that, it's almost impossible to identify them. Ellie, 60 00:03:20,655 --> 00:03:23,295 Speaker 3: this is what you should do if you can or 61 00:03:23,655 --> 00:03:26,135 Speaker 3: and it depends on if you've got, for instance's smartphone 62 00:03:26,215 --> 00:03:32,815 Speaker 3: or have somebody who knows about smartphones. Get yourself down smartphones, 63 00:03:33,095 --> 00:03:36,735 Speaker 3: so telephones, you know what I mean. Phones, Get yourself 64 00:03:36,775 --> 00:03:43,655 Speaker 3: an app called I natural List one word. Yes, it 65 00:03:43,735 --> 00:03:47,175 Speaker 3: is a look. It's easy to use that app to 66 00:03:47,215 --> 00:03:49,575 Speaker 3: be quite honest and take a really good photo of 67 00:03:49,655 --> 00:03:52,775 Speaker 3: those things as close as you can get, and basically 68 00:03:52,815 --> 00:03:56,855 Speaker 3: I naturalists can identify them if you know what it is. 69 00:03:56,935 --> 00:03:59,495 Speaker 3: It's probably a lot easier for me to talk about 70 00:03:59,535 --> 00:04:03,975 Speaker 3: it because the tiny little bugs that run around the 71 00:04:04,015 --> 00:04:06,935 Speaker 3: floor and things like that, that could be so many 72 00:04:06,935 --> 00:04:11,335 Speaker 3: different species. It's ridiculous and it's really hard without seeing 73 00:04:11,495 --> 00:04:12,135 Speaker 3: what it is. 74 00:04:12,815 --> 00:04:20,095 Speaker 4: Shall I post you on jus got one on my disclass. 75 00:04:20,135 --> 00:04:21,775 Speaker 4: I've got one of my disclass. 76 00:04:21,815 --> 00:04:24,415 Speaker 3: I would always post a few. I would always post 77 00:04:24,495 --> 00:04:29,415 Speaker 3: a few, ye, just some gate ifall. 78 00:04:28,575 --> 00:04:31,455 Speaker 2: Because when they go through the franking machine they might 79 00:04:31,495 --> 00:04:34,375 Speaker 2: get a SQUI. I used to work and post office 80 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:36,135 Speaker 2: and franking was was my job. 81 00:04:36,255 --> 00:04:38,855 Speaker 3: So yeah, send it to your news dogs. They'd be 82 00:04:38,895 --> 00:04:40,975 Speaker 3: here in christ It should be fine. 83 00:04:40,975 --> 00:04:44,175 Speaker 2: Perfect. Otherwise, find a young person, get them to plug 84 00:04:44,215 --> 00:04:46,855 Speaker 2: an eye naturalist, which is great fun and you can 85 00:04:46,895 --> 00:04:50,575 Speaker 2: identify it on the spot. Carol, A very good morning. 86 00:04:51,615 --> 00:04:57,615 Speaker 2: Oh hello, I'm going to listen intently. 87 00:04:58,255 --> 00:05:00,895 Speaker 3: Yeah, go on, you've got a good question. Go on, Carol, 88 00:05:00,975 --> 00:05:01,535 Speaker 3: let's do this. 89 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:08,855 Speaker 5: Lorn corderator s. Yeah, what is best for the lawn, 90 00:05:10,095 --> 00:05:13,295 Speaker 5: So I use the catcher or not. I prefer not 91 00:05:13,495 --> 00:05:16,255 Speaker 5: to use the catcher, but at least little clumps the 92 00:05:16,295 --> 00:05:20,935 Speaker 5: grass around, and I don't mind that. What would you do? 93 00:05:22,335 --> 00:05:25,975 Speaker 3: I leave it lying around because what I and and 94 00:05:26,095 --> 00:05:28,895 Speaker 3: if you do a regular mod of the lawn, let's 95 00:05:28,895 --> 00:05:32,095 Speaker 3: say every week or two weeks, you'll find that those 96 00:05:32,175 --> 00:05:36,415 Speaker 3: clumps are not as big, and they therefore will decay 97 00:05:37,095 --> 00:05:41,015 Speaker 3: quite nicely in your or on your lawn and in 98 00:05:41,055 --> 00:05:43,615 Speaker 3: your lawn. And that means that you get all that 99 00:05:44,815 --> 00:05:49,015 Speaker 3: carbon and nitrogen and phosphates and all the things that 100 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:53,975 Speaker 3: that you cut off will be reused again in your lawn, 101 00:05:54,495 --> 00:05:55,655 Speaker 3: and it saves you. 102 00:05:55,775 --> 00:05:56,775 Speaker 6: All the lawn. 103 00:05:58,575 --> 00:05:58,895 Speaker 3: The lawn. 104 00:05:59,095 --> 00:06:01,495 Speaker 5: But I noticed a number of birds as soon as 105 00:06:01,535 --> 00:06:04,335 Speaker 5: the lawn was mode and the clumps of grass were there, 106 00:06:05,415 --> 00:06:08,215 Speaker 5: there were birds all over the lawn to make it 107 00:06:08,615 --> 00:06:11,455 Speaker 5: sis from that grass. After it's being mode. 108 00:06:11,375 --> 00:06:14,175 Speaker 3: It's not so much that it's because the grass is gone. 109 00:06:14,215 --> 00:06:16,455 Speaker 3: They can actually see the worms that live at the 110 00:06:16,495 --> 00:06:19,055 Speaker 3: top of the lawns and if they come out with 111 00:06:19,175 --> 00:06:21,775 Speaker 3: one part of that's how they get their food. They're 112 00:06:21,855 --> 00:06:22,375 Speaker 3: very clever. 113 00:06:23,575 --> 00:06:27,575 Speaker 5: Oh, yes, yes, thank you, great great advice. 114 00:06:28,255 --> 00:06:30,455 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you do every now, If you do 115 00:06:30,535 --> 00:06:32,695 Speaker 3: every now and then, do have it on a catcher, 116 00:06:33,215 --> 00:06:36,255 Speaker 3: chuck it into a compost bin with some with all 117 00:06:36,295 --> 00:06:38,575 Speaker 3: sorts of other bits and pieces like fruits, but also 118 00:06:38,695 --> 00:06:41,575 Speaker 3: with chipped wood, and you'll find you'll get some really 119 00:06:41,695 --> 00:06:43,895 Speaker 3: nice stuff that you can use for your garden elsewhere. 120 00:06:45,215 --> 00:06:48,495 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, thank you, you go. 121 00:06:50,815 --> 00:06:54,215 Speaker 2: All the best, your Carol, You take care of all. 122 00:06:54,335 --> 00:06:57,295 Speaker 2: My restraint is being used right now not to go 123 00:06:57,335 --> 00:06:59,935 Speaker 2: into a long and boring discussion around whether or not 124 00:06:59,975 --> 00:07:02,695 Speaker 2: to use a catcher and when and the technique for it. 125 00:07:02,735 --> 00:07:03,815 Speaker 2: I think I've got it nailed. 126 00:07:03,855 --> 00:07:06,815 Speaker 3: But yeah, what's your problem though, Well. 127 00:07:06,775 --> 00:07:08,455 Speaker 2: No, I don't have a problem with It's just it's 128 00:07:08,495 --> 00:07:12,975 Speaker 2: that mixture between kind of aesthetics and practicality. So I 129 00:07:13,055 --> 00:07:19,775 Speaker 2: will often mow without a catcher when the when the 130 00:07:20,335 --> 00:07:22,175 Speaker 2: if I do it regularly so you don't get those 131 00:07:22,175 --> 00:07:24,535 Speaker 2: big clumps. That's what Karl was talking about. That that 132 00:07:24,615 --> 00:07:27,095 Speaker 2: she was talking about that that leave it too long 133 00:07:27,135 --> 00:07:28,655 Speaker 2: and then you get big clumps. You get sort of 134 00:07:28,655 --> 00:07:32,655 Speaker 2: like rows of mulch, right or clippings sitting there. So 135 00:07:32,735 --> 00:07:34,735 Speaker 2: what I tend to do is during the summer in 136 00:07:34,775 --> 00:07:37,495 Speaker 2: particular is mo often but without a catcher, and then 137 00:07:37,535 --> 00:07:40,735 Speaker 2: it's really fine and it'll settle in winter. Like when 138 00:07:40,775 --> 00:07:43,215 Speaker 2: I mowed the lawns dashed out the other day. It's 139 00:07:43,335 --> 00:07:46,015 Speaker 2: it was already quite long, it's gluggy, and all the 140 00:07:46,055 --> 00:07:47,815 Speaker 2: rest of it that I'll put in the compost bin. 141 00:07:48,455 --> 00:07:51,615 Speaker 3: I totally agree, And that is exactly what that's exactly 142 00:07:51,615 --> 00:07:52,015 Speaker 3: what I do. 143 00:07:52,335 --> 00:07:53,535 Speaker 2: Sound like such an old man. 144 00:07:53,935 --> 00:07:57,335 Speaker 3: No it's not. No, it's Peter. Why would I be 145 00:07:57,375 --> 00:08:00,655 Speaker 3: so this, Oh, Peter, it's practical stuff. 146 00:08:00,735 --> 00:08:06,495 Speaker 2: I know, I agree, I agree. I'm just yourself, right, okay, 147 00:08:09,215 --> 00:08:12,855 Speaker 2: oh right? Quick text? How do you remove like in 148 00:08:12,895 --> 00:08:15,175 Speaker 2: a moss from walnut trees? Is it now killing the 149 00:08:15,175 --> 00:08:17,055 Speaker 2: branches when it reaches the end of the branch. That's 150 00:08:17,095 --> 00:08:18,935 Speaker 2: from Julian Central Otago. 151 00:08:19,815 --> 00:08:23,375 Speaker 3: This is the very common question this. First of all, 152 00:08:23,855 --> 00:08:28,495 Speaker 3: Lichan sit on trees. They do not go in trees. 153 00:08:28,655 --> 00:08:32,535 Speaker 3: In other words, if your trees are not looking too 154 00:08:32,575 --> 00:08:35,055 Speaker 3: good and you've got lichen on it, there is something 155 00:08:35,175 --> 00:08:39,535 Speaker 3: else that takes the leaves off it and exposes the branch. 156 00:08:39,655 --> 00:08:43,855 Speaker 3: Just do a much better growth of lichen. Lichen itself 157 00:08:44,335 --> 00:08:48,375 Speaker 3: is a fabulous material that will tell you whether your 158 00:08:48,495 --> 00:08:52,895 Speaker 3: tree or shrub, or your plant needs fertilizer, needs pruning, 159 00:08:53,215 --> 00:08:57,895 Speaker 3: needs anything else, because the lichen itself has no influence 160 00:08:58,095 --> 00:09:02,055 Speaker 3: on your tree. That's number one. Number two. If you 161 00:09:02,135 --> 00:09:04,335 Speaker 3: do get like and you know that you're starting to 162 00:09:04,415 --> 00:09:08,535 Speaker 3: lose leaves, if you fertile with nitrogen, you will get 163 00:09:08,575 --> 00:09:12,895 Speaker 3: your leaves back and the lichen itself will then not 164 00:09:13,335 --> 00:09:16,535 Speaker 3: keep going. It's of no concern to the tree. It 165 00:09:16,655 --> 00:09:19,895 Speaker 3: is basically living on top of the tree and on 166 00:09:19,975 --> 00:09:23,295 Speaker 3: the outside of the tree. The only time you get 167 00:09:23,375 --> 00:09:25,935 Speaker 3: rid of lichen is when it's on your metal roof 168 00:09:26,335 --> 00:09:29,055 Speaker 3: right to climb up and you slide off, which is 169 00:09:29,095 --> 00:09:32,815 Speaker 3: why at the old days, wet and Forget was invented 170 00:09:32,855 --> 00:09:35,575 Speaker 3: as a wet and forget against like. And that was 171 00:09:35,615 --> 00:09:39,415 Speaker 3: the only way why Rod Genden invented wet and forget 172 00:09:39,455 --> 00:09:42,375 Speaker 3: so he wouldn't slip off. And that's the only time 173 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:45,375 Speaker 3: you control liken because on a slippery roof it is 174 00:09:45,455 --> 00:09:46,375 Speaker 3: not nice to have. 175 00:09:47,255 --> 00:09:50,895 Speaker 2: And guys from Taurus Roofing, who do property maintenance as well, 176 00:09:50,935 --> 00:09:53,935 Speaker 2: come and do a metal roof for me this week 177 00:09:54,015 --> 00:09:57,375 Speaker 2: and again they specified the wit and forget got up 178 00:09:57,415 --> 00:09:59,415 Speaker 2: there and then okay, it'll take a little while, but 179 00:09:59,455 --> 00:10:01,855 Speaker 2: at least I know that it's being done, and you 180 00:10:01,895 --> 00:10:04,455 Speaker 2: know it is actually really really important. Got to take 181 00:10:04,495 --> 00:10:06,935 Speaker 2: this text before we go to the break. I bought, 182 00:10:07,295 --> 00:10:10,575 Speaker 2: says the text Donner. I bought fifteen bags of fresh 183 00:10:10,695 --> 00:10:15,135 Speaker 2: chicken manure as a fundraiser last year. How long do 184 00:10:15,215 --> 00:10:17,335 Speaker 2: I wait until I can use it? Please? And how 185 00:10:17,415 --> 00:10:20,615 Speaker 2: much per square meter? I don't know the picture in 186 00:10:20,655 --> 00:10:23,215 Speaker 2: your mind, but I'm thinking a bag of chicken manure 187 00:10:23,255 --> 00:10:28,615 Speaker 2: that's a year old, a year old in a plastic bag. 188 00:10:30,455 --> 00:10:33,535 Speaker 3: I think if you have a compost bin, No, honestly, 189 00:10:33,615 --> 00:10:36,735 Speaker 3: if you have a compost bin, you will probably still 190 00:10:36,775 --> 00:10:39,775 Speaker 3: be able to make a good compost or so not 191 00:10:40,215 --> 00:10:43,695 Speaker 3: yeah or soup whatever, but no, honestly, use it as 192 00:10:43,735 --> 00:10:46,575 Speaker 3: soon as you can, but not too dense. In other words, 193 00:10:46,775 --> 00:10:49,695 Speaker 3: you need to you need to get chips, what chips? 194 00:10:49,855 --> 00:10:51,455 Speaker 3: You need to get all sorts of other stuff in 195 00:10:51,495 --> 00:10:54,855 Speaker 3: there and mix it up. But I reckon, Peter, I reckon, 196 00:10:54,855 --> 00:10:56,495 Speaker 3: we can do this all right. 197 00:10:56,535 --> 00:11:01,215 Speaker 2: It's it's salvagable. Yeah, good short break. We'll talk to 198 00:11:01,255 --> 00:11:03,495 Speaker 2: Marion straight after the break and News talks a b 199 00:11:03,535 --> 00:11:06,895 Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from nine o'clock Marion of very Good. 200 00:11:06,735 --> 00:11:08,975 Speaker 7: Morning, Good morning route. 201 00:11:09,535 --> 00:11:10,575 Speaker 5: Hello Maria. 202 00:11:12,855 --> 00:11:16,855 Speaker 7: We've got our house with about twenty five years old, 203 00:11:16,895 --> 00:11:20,255 Speaker 7: which we had built, and in the front of it 204 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:25,575 Speaker 7: we've got a little sort of circular half circle let's 205 00:11:25,615 --> 00:11:29,495 Speaker 7: put that way garden bed which I tended for a while, 206 00:11:30,615 --> 00:11:35,575 Speaker 7: and unfortunately the builders had put down the stones there, 207 00:11:35,615 --> 00:11:40,655 Speaker 7: so it's all got stones. But apart from that, we 208 00:11:40,735 --> 00:11:45,695 Speaker 7: had my husband likes to have something that stays there 209 00:11:45,695 --> 00:11:47,895 Speaker 7: for a while so they doesn't have to tend it, 210 00:11:47,975 --> 00:11:52,335 Speaker 7: so we had rosemary there for a while and then 211 00:11:52,415 --> 00:11:55,615 Speaker 7: that went in the middle, so he pulled that out, 212 00:11:56,615 --> 00:11:59,815 Speaker 7: and now we've got a bear with a few weeds 213 00:12:00,215 --> 00:12:03,735 Speaker 7: and we don't know what to put in there. I 214 00:12:03,855 --> 00:12:07,495 Speaker 7: did get some delphin ens and hollyhocks, but then I 215 00:12:07,535 --> 00:12:10,375 Speaker 7: realized they have to go on the spring, and also 216 00:12:10,535 --> 00:12:12,775 Speaker 7: that there are any annuals. 217 00:12:13,295 --> 00:12:17,495 Speaker 3: Yes, well, if this is look I've been saying this along, 218 00:12:17,935 --> 00:12:21,735 Speaker 3: it's very difficult for me to, uh, what do you 219 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:24,655 Speaker 3: call it? Tell you or give you some ideas of 220 00:12:24,655 --> 00:12:26,855 Speaker 3: what the plant, because there might be things you don't 221 00:12:26,975 --> 00:12:29,495 Speaker 3: like at all, And what I normally say to people, 222 00:12:29,615 --> 00:12:34,895 Speaker 3: have you got a and if you're like a garden nearby, 223 00:12:35,135 --> 00:12:38,775 Speaker 3: or a botanical garden nearby where you can have a 224 00:12:38,815 --> 00:12:42,055 Speaker 3: look at what grows well in your area, looks good 225 00:12:42,095 --> 00:12:44,695 Speaker 3: at this time of the year and maybe later on, 226 00:12:45,015 --> 00:12:48,375 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. Are you anywhere near a botannic 227 00:12:48,415 --> 00:12:50,215 Speaker 3: garden or a place where you can see these things? 228 00:12:50,895 --> 00:12:54,775 Speaker 7: No, we're on the north shore, they're not shore. 229 00:12:54,655 --> 00:12:56,575 Speaker 3: Is not too far from the best one of the 230 00:12:56,615 --> 00:13:02,735 Speaker 3: best botannic gardens in your Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, I would. 231 00:13:03,175 --> 00:13:05,255 Speaker 3: I would do that, and I would just go and 232 00:13:05,295 --> 00:13:09,215 Speaker 3: have a look and ask the people there. You know, 233 00:13:09,575 --> 00:13:12,935 Speaker 3: what would work? Now, what would work for a long time, 234 00:13:13,055 --> 00:13:15,775 Speaker 3: the six six months of the year. You don't want 235 00:13:15,775 --> 00:13:17,175 Speaker 3: it just for a couple of months, you know. 236 00:13:18,375 --> 00:13:20,975 Speaker 7: And the other thing he's been planning out little bits 237 00:13:21,015 --> 00:13:23,135 Speaker 7: of levender. Do you think that would go? 238 00:13:23,215 --> 00:13:25,255 Speaker 3: Well there, absolutely why not? 239 00:13:26,175 --> 00:13:29,975 Speaker 7: It gets the wind, you know, and it gets the wind. 240 00:13:31,055 --> 00:13:33,775 Speaker 3: Now, this is what I think. This is your job 241 00:13:33,895 --> 00:13:37,295 Speaker 3: to go and find what you like, and once you 242 00:13:37,415 --> 00:13:40,575 Speaker 3: found what you like, ask the guys that any guys 243 00:13:40,575 --> 00:13:41,935 Speaker 3: and the girls, and you'll be fine. 244 00:13:43,055 --> 00:13:45,255 Speaker 7: Well I did, but I didn't realize they were in. 245 00:13:50,495 --> 00:13:53,855 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, that's the sort of stuff. Yeah, no, honestly, 246 00:13:54,015 --> 00:13:56,375 Speaker 3: that's that's the way to go. You'll you'll know what 247 00:13:56,495 --> 00:13:59,255 Speaker 3: works in the neighborhood. Another one is go around you 248 00:13:59,335 --> 00:14:02,695 Speaker 3: know what your years this is. You'd like this, you 249 00:14:02,735 --> 00:14:05,335 Speaker 3: would love this. What I usually say is go for 250 00:14:05,375 --> 00:14:07,455 Speaker 3: a walk around the lock and if you see something 251 00:14:07,495 --> 00:14:10,415 Speaker 3: that works really well, knock on the door. Now, listen, 252 00:14:10,575 --> 00:14:13,375 Speaker 3: lock on the door, ask what is this exactly? And 253 00:14:13,415 --> 00:14:15,815 Speaker 3: when you're and when they're really good gardeners, you end 254 00:14:15,895 --> 00:14:19,295 Speaker 3: up with your own cutting for free. 255 00:14:19,615 --> 00:14:25,495 Speaker 7: All right, customer before you go. You know, my husband 256 00:14:26,015 --> 00:14:27,815 Speaker 7: he used to do it with your at Boundary Road. 257 00:14:28,295 --> 00:14:31,295 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Really Ministry of anger and fish heads 258 00:14:32,095 --> 00:14:38,615 Speaker 3: mess and yeah, okay, what's his name? If I may ask? 259 00:14:39,495 --> 00:14:41,775 Speaker 7: What is next? John? And he was a scientist. 260 00:14:42,455 --> 00:14:46,615 Speaker 3: Ah okay, all right, do you know No, I don't 261 00:14:46,655 --> 00:14:48,055 Speaker 3: think so, I don't know. Discern name. 262 00:14:49,375 --> 00:14:52,415 Speaker 2: Stay on the line, Marian, because we love these mysteries 263 00:14:52,455 --> 00:14:54,335 Speaker 2: to stay on the line and we get the details. 264 00:14:54,935 --> 00:14:56,295 Speaker 2: You just just wait on there. 265 00:14:57,415 --> 00:14:57,815 Speaker 3: Tell you what. 266 00:14:58,815 --> 00:14:58,855 Speaker 7: No. 267 00:14:59,055 --> 00:15:01,255 Speaker 2: I think it's probably an Auckland Council thing. But Auckland 268 00:15:01,295 --> 00:15:03,175 Speaker 2: Council over the last couple of weeks have been running 269 00:15:03,175 --> 00:15:06,495 Speaker 2: a campaign where some of the community nurseries. Right, this 270 00:15:06,535 --> 00:15:09,255 Speaker 2: is the sort of local ecological restoration group. They've been 271 00:15:09,295 --> 00:15:12,295 Speaker 2: giving away free plants. They've been supported by Auckland Council 272 00:15:12,415 --> 00:15:16,695 Speaker 2: to give away free natives. So given that she's on 273 00:15:16,735 --> 00:15:18,175 Speaker 2: the shore and I know there's a couple of local 274 00:15:18,255 --> 00:15:20,775 Speaker 2: nurseries that have been part of that, you could go 275 00:15:20,855 --> 00:15:25,655 Speaker 2: and get free plants right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's been 276 00:15:25,655 --> 00:15:29,135 Speaker 2: an initiative to expose they know that these groups like 277 00:15:29,255 --> 00:15:34,135 Speaker 2: Restoring Takorhaki have their own nursery. Now they're propagating seedlings 278 00:15:34,215 --> 00:15:36,535 Speaker 2: and some of that will be available for people just 279 00:15:36,575 --> 00:15:40,375 Speaker 2: to come and get it and plants. Tell you what 280 00:15:40,415 --> 00:15:43,775 Speaker 2: I heard about last week to a conference. You know 281 00:15:43,815 --> 00:15:47,135 Speaker 2: builders pencils, right, So we use them often for promotional stuff. 282 00:15:47,175 --> 00:15:48,375 Speaker 2: You print your name on the side and. 283 00:15:48,375 --> 00:15:48,935 Speaker 3: All the rest of it. 284 00:15:49,375 --> 00:15:51,175 Speaker 2: There's a new one out there and I'm going to 285 00:15:51,255 --> 00:15:53,975 Speaker 2: get some. I have to import them. But at the 286 00:15:54,135 --> 00:15:58,215 Speaker 2: end of the pencil, it's got a seed for a tree. 287 00:15:58,695 --> 00:16:01,375 Speaker 2: So when you finished with a pencil, you can plant 288 00:16:01,415 --> 00:16:06,215 Speaker 2: it and sprout is the brand apparently, sprout your own tree. 289 00:16:06,775 --> 00:16:08,015 Speaker 3: What a neat idea. 290 00:16:08,135 --> 00:16:11,095 Speaker 2: So I stand by, I'll organize some of those. I'll 291 00:16:11,095 --> 00:16:13,655 Speaker 2: get on to that, Mary, and thank you very much 292 00:16:13,695 --> 00:16:16,175 Speaker 2: for that. Margaret, A very good morning to you. 293 00:16:16,975 --> 00:16:18,535 Speaker 6: It's maglie old bag. 294 00:16:18,975 --> 00:16:22,495 Speaker 3: Oh it's not, is it. You know what you should do? 295 00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:26,575 Speaker 3: You know what you should do. You should stop shouting 296 00:16:26,615 --> 00:16:32,975 Speaker 3: at me all the way from Gisbane. Good grief. Hell yeah, 297 00:16:32,975 --> 00:16:33,215 Speaker 3: I know. 298 00:16:34,455 --> 00:16:40,535 Speaker 6: We've got monic butterflies everywhere and everybody wants them. But 299 00:16:40,735 --> 00:16:41,575 Speaker 6: what don't I do? 300 00:16:42,215 --> 00:16:44,935 Speaker 3: Hang on? Whoa, whoa, whoa? Are you talking about Eastwood 301 00:16:45,015 --> 00:16:45,935 Speaker 3: Hill or your own place? 302 00:16:47,895 --> 00:16:53,935 Speaker 6: Any and I could be at eastwood Hill? Everything eastwood 303 00:16:54,015 --> 00:16:57,135 Speaker 6: Hill actually is ash and pummus the soil. 304 00:16:57,295 --> 00:16:57,935 Speaker 3: It's happening. 305 00:16:58,055 --> 00:17:02,655 Speaker 6: It things great, But no, it's monic butterflies. 306 00:17:03,135 --> 00:17:04,015 Speaker 1: What do we do? 307 00:17:04,735 --> 00:17:07,455 Speaker 3: Hang on? Hang on, Margaret? Is it in your garden 308 00:17:07,575 --> 00:17:11,415 Speaker 3: or at Eastwood Hill that you're referring to? Both? And 309 00:17:11,775 --> 00:17:14,175 Speaker 3: are they? Are they hibernating at the moment? Are they 310 00:17:14,255 --> 00:17:15,415 Speaker 3: sleeping in trees? 311 00:17:18,095 --> 00:17:18,135 Speaker 7: No? 312 00:17:18,335 --> 00:17:22,735 Speaker 6: They're well they are, but everybody wants them. But what 313 00:17:22,775 --> 00:17:28,135 Speaker 6: do I do to to have to keep them covered 314 00:17:28,175 --> 00:17:38,775 Speaker 6: for a year somehow because otherwise the caterpillars just kill them? Okay, 315 00:17:38,775 --> 00:17:42,575 Speaker 6: but we've got where where we live is on a 316 00:17:42,855 --> 00:17:50,775 Speaker 6: on a is I can have them everywhere, but I 317 00:17:50,895 --> 00:17:53,495 Speaker 6: can't get them growing enough. 318 00:17:54,135 --> 00:17:55,695 Speaker 3: Are you talking about swan plants? 319 00:17:56,535 --> 00:17:57,055 Speaker 6: Yeah? 320 00:17:57,135 --> 00:18:00,335 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right now very quickly, because this is 321 00:18:00,335 --> 00:18:03,735 Speaker 3: really important. You might have heard all about the nonsense 322 00:18:03,775 --> 00:18:07,015 Speaker 3: about butterflies being rare and all that. I still don't 323 00:18:07,015 --> 00:18:10,775 Speaker 3: think there's enough evidence for that, but that's me. Go 324 00:18:10,815 --> 00:18:15,815 Speaker 3: and have a chat to the Moths and Butterfly Trust people. Okay, 325 00:18:16,215 --> 00:18:18,695 Speaker 3: they're online. You'll find that. You'll find them there and 326 00:18:18,735 --> 00:18:21,135 Speaker 3: you know exactly what to do. But I reckon you 327 00:18:21,175 --> 00:18:23,615 Speaker 3: can't plant at the moment, especially not in christ Church. 328 00:18:23,935 --> 00:18:26,615 Speaker 3: Although swan plants you'll have to wait till springtime. But 329 00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:30,095 Speaker 3: if you find if you find them hibernating, the Moths 330 00:18:30,135 --> 00:18:32,815 Speaker 3: and Butterfly Trust would really like to know where they 331 00:18:32,815 --> 00:18:35,575 Speaker 3: are because they're getting really really worried about these poor 332 00:18:35,655 --> 00:18:39,575 Speaker 3: things which are not native. Yeah all right, I'll leave 333 00:18:39,615 --> 00:18:42,215 Speaker 3: you to it, Margaret, he lovely voice. 334 00:18:43,055 --> 00:18:48,855 Speaker 6: So who do I I'm I'm ring right two the monarchy. 335 00:18:49,655 --> 00:18:55,535 Speaker 3: Now it's the Moths and Butterfly Trust. Okay, okay, look 336 00:18:55,575 --> 00:18:56,775 Speaker 3: them up online, see darling. 337 00:18:57,735 --> 00:19:01,415 Speaker 2: Bye, all the best. I think we should have a 338 00:19:01,535 --> 00:19:06,175 Speaker 2: sound of wheels reversing very quickly. I'm just wondering about 339 00:19:06,615 --> 00:19:09,695 Speaker 2: thing about getting some pencils with seeds in them from overseas. 340 00:19:09,775 --> 00:19:12,135 Speaker 2: We don't necessarily want more product from overseas, do we? 341 00:19:12,655 --> 00:19:16,855 Speaker 2: Nob jundi for a local person to develop the technology. 342 00:19:16,295 --> 00:19:18,455 Speaker 3: To do your local natives. Mate, Remember. 343 00:19:21,455 --> 00:19:25,135 Speaker 2: Someone takes through about planting. Is now a good time 344 00:19:25,175 --> 00:19:28,055 Speaker 2: to plant a lily pilly hedge? Don't we have some 345 00:19:28,095 --> 00:19:29,335 Speaker 2: concerns about lily pilice? 346 00:19:29,615 --> 00:19:32,055 Speaker 3: Yes we do, right, but the question was can we 347 00:19:32,135 --> 00:19:33,775 Speaker 3: planted now? Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good 348 00:19:33,815 --> 00:19:34,775 Speaker 3: dame to plant things. 349 00:19:35,135 --> 00:19:37,375 Speaker 2: It's good to know you things. But maybe planting a 350 00:19:37,375 --> 00:19:38,135 Speaker 2: lily PILLI. 351 00:19:38,735 --> 00:19:41,415 Speaker 3: I suggest not lilly pilly, but something name. 352 00:19:41,815 --> 00:19:44,495 Speaker 1: There you go bait for more from the Resident Builder 353 00:19:44,575 --> 00:19:47,335 Speaker 1: with Peter Wolfcamp. Listen live to news talks that'd be 354 00:19:47,415 --> 00:19:51,215 Speaker 1: on Sunday Mornings from Sex or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.