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Speaker 1: Scott Watson is back before the courts to Clara's name.

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Speaker 1: Scott Watson has spent the last twenty five years behind

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Speaker 1: bars after being found guilty for the murders of Ben

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Speaker 1: Smart and Olivia Hope in nineteen ninety eight. Open Justice

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Speaker 1: reporter Catherine Hautton has been at the Court of Appeal

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Speaker 1: hearing and is with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, hey, Catherine, hello, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you know. He is fighting to

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Speaker 1: clear his name on two grounds, isn't he? What are they?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Two bounds. Firstly the ESI evidence, which is essentially

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Speaker 2: their heads that were found on the blanket of blade.

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Speaker 2: And secondly the photo montage. And this is how Watson

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Speaker 2: was identified or Wallace. I did the TEXTI driver Wallace

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Speaker 2: identified Watson and it's an infamous half blink photo where

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Speaker 2: his eyes are sort of half closed.

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Speaker 1: Right on the DNA stuff the hair is Are they

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Speaker 1: going to reprise the same argument, which is that there's

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Speaker 1: some sort of contamination that's happened here.

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Speaker 2: We think so, yes, now, we haven't got to that today.

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Speaker 2: So they was about the photo montage. Tomorrow is about

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Speaker 2: the ESI evidence, which is actually the eight witnesses that

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Speaker 2: we've got left to hear from this week. Yes, they've

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Speaker 2: got a new forensic scientist report from Ann called doctor

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Speaker 2: Seawan Doyle, which says that an actual fact he cast

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Speaker 2: out on whether the heirs are actually from Olivia.

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Speaker 1: The misidentification claims that the second part that they're arguing

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Speaker 1: that seems compelling, is it as compelling? In court?

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Speaker 2: Well, today the Crown Council spent most of the Stuart

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Speaker 2: Bakers spent most of the day actually basically putting holes

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Speaker 2: in their report. So it was written by two eyewitness experts,

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Speaker 2: Dr Gary Wells and doctor Adele Quiggley McBride, both of

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Speaker 2: whom spoke to the court today. And I suppose it

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Speaker 2: was the case of not too much. What the report

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Speaker 2: said is what it didn't say. Now, the report concluded

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Speaker 2: that Watson's identification had little or no privative value. But

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Speaker 2: what they're saying is, well it didn't that. What the

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Speaker 2: Crown is saying is well, there's significant holes in the report.

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Speaker 2: And I mean to give you one example. They said

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Speaker 2: they talked about how Olivia's sister that oh sorry, They

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Speaker 2: talked about how the so I've just lost my place.

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Speaker 2: They talked about how Hayden Morrison could only had only

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Speaker 2: identified the man from behind and said that he had

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Speaker 2: along hair, and yet he couldn't identify him on a montage. Well,

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Speaker 2: the Crown says, well, how could you identify someone from

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Speaker 2: a photo if you never saw them from behind, if

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Speaker 2: you only saw them from behind, So things like that.

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Speaker 2: I suppose they spent the day kind of arguing what

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Speaker 2: the what the report had concluded?

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Speaker 1: Why was he not in court today?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I don't know. He has chosen not

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Speaker 2: to appear and he is not appearing by AVL either.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Catherine's so good to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for that. That's Catherine Hutton and the Open

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Speaker 1: Justice Reporter.

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