1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,853 Speaker 2: Rude climb passes our man in the garden. He's with 4 00:00:15,933 --> 00:00:16,973 Speaker 2: us this morning, killed us. 5 00:00:16,893 --> 00:00:20,773 Speaker 3: Sir Curia Jack. I am in the garden because there've 6 00:00:20,813 --> 00:00:25,173 Speaker 3: been a few problems around the gardening to Oh, yes. 7 00:00:26,613 --> 00:00:28,973 Speaker 2: A few problems. Oh, you wouldn't go down well on 8 00:00:29,053 --> 00:00:32,133 Speaker 2: my place. Rude, you know nothing but success stories in 9 00:00:32,213 --> 00:00:34,213 Speaker 2: the Tame family garden. Actually, you know what I got 10 00:00:34,213 --> 00:00:35,853 Speaker 2: to say. Sorry, we'll get into things in a minute, 11 00:00:35,853 --> 00:00:40,453 Speaker 2: to get into your various issues. My capsicums this year, 12 00:00:40,853 --> 00:00:43,173 Speaker 2: it's the first time I've first summer I've had a 13 00:00:43,173 --> 00:00:45,573 Speaker 2: crack at growing capsicums, and I don't want to talk 14 00:00:45,613 --> 00:00:48,493 Speaker 2: it up too much, but I've absolutely crushed it. I 15 00:00:48,493 --> 00:00:50,773 Speaker 2: don't know what I did, but for some reason, I 16 00:00:50,813 --> 00:00:54,133 Speaker 2: reckon I've got maybe fifteen or twenty capsicans on one plant. 17 00:00:55,213 --> 00:00:56,453 Speaker 2: Not bad, ah, it's not. 18 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:58,013 Speaker 3: Although a bit of squats. 19 00:00:58,053 --> 00:00:59,533 Speaker 2: They're a bit sort of they're a bit sort of 20 00:00:59,573 --> 00:01:01,493 Speaker 2: short and fat as opposed to they don't get their 21 00:01:01,533 --> 00:01:03,773 Speaker 2: kind of long, you know, sometimes you get them. They're 22 00:01:03,813 --> 00:01:06,013 Speaker 2: quite nice and long. But they're beautiful red and sweet. 23 00:01:06,013 --> 00:01:09,413 Speaker 3: The gold Yes, that's right. So you sometimes have green 24 00:01:09,413 --> 00:01:11,253 Speaker 3: ones that become red as well. 25 00:01:11,093 --> 00:01:14,293 Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 26 00:01:14,413 --> 00:01:18,173 Speaker 3: Exactly, you keep them going. No, this is wonderful to hear, because, 27 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:21,213 Speaker 3: to be quite honest, it is really nice to have 28 00:01:21,253 --> 00:01:24,613 Speaker 3: fresh capsicums. Whether you fry them or whether you have them, 29 00:01:24,973 --> 00:01:28,933 Speaker 3: you know, smashed up into and sell it, that'll be wonderful. 30 00:01:29,293 --> 00:01:33,333 Speaker 3: And the irony is that basically all you need is 31 00:01:33,373 --> 00:01:36,493 Speaker 3: a little bit of general fertilizer to do it. You 32 00:01:36,573 --> 00:01:39,013 Speaker 3: don't need any major troubles there you go. 33 00:01:39,253 --> 00:01:42,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's rear that I'm reporting on a success 34 00:01:42,093 --> 00:01:43,933 Speaker 2: from our garden. So I'm pleased that I can do that. 35 00:01:44,213 --> 00:01:46,613 Speaker 2: When you get into your perennial troubles. 36 00:01:46,933 --> 00:01:49,493 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's do that. But I reckon money. When 37 00:01:49,493 --> 00:01:51,853 Speaker 3: he grows a little bit older, will probably love those. 38 00:01:54,693 --> 00:01:57,333 Speaker 2: There is something about growing something that's a really vibrant 39 00:01:57,373 --> 00:01:59,413 Speaker 2: red that's quite exciting. 40 00:01:59,453 --> 00:01:59,693 Speaker 3: You know. 41 00:01:59,893 --> 00:02:02,053 Speaker 2: It's just it's just just looks good, you know. 42 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:05,773 Speaker 3: Anyway, Yes, it is certainly now perennial troubles. This was 43 00:02:05,813 --> 00:02:09,293 Speaker 3: an interesting thing because over the last few weeks Pete 44 00:02:09,333 --> 00:02:12,093 Speaker 3: Wolfkemp and I have been talking about scarlet runner beans 45 00:02:12,533 --> 00:02:14,773 Speaker 3: that caused quite a bit of problem in New Zealand. 46 00:02:14,853 --> 00:02:18,613 Speaker 3: And once, you know, once somebody starts, everybody calls up 47 00:02:18,653 --> 00:02:21,133 Speaker 3: talk back, and it's like that a little bit. So 48 00:02:21,173 --> 00:02:24,733 Speaker 3: that's how that went. So this is the story. Actually, 49 00:02:24,813 --> 00:02:27,933 Speaker 3: I started working on scarlet runner beans and I ended 50 00:02:28,013 --> 00:02:29,933 Speaker 3: up talking to a friend of mine, a really good 51 00:02:30,053 --> 00:02:33,373 Speaker 3: DSAI made from way back, and we ended up talking 52 00:02:33,413 --> 00:02:37,533 Speaker 3: about dahlias, and for some silly reason, the problems at 53 00:02:37,533 --> 00:02:40,333 Speaker 3: the scarlet runners may well be related to the same 54 00:02:40,373 --> 00:02:43,293 Speaker 3: sort of troubles on dahlias. And this is what I 55 00:02:44,133 --> 00:02:46,373 Speaker 3: thought I'd better have a chat about. First of all, 56 00:02:47,213 --> 00:02:50,173 Speaker 3: what we heard with the scarlet runners is very simple. 57 00:02:50,413 --> 00:02:54,373 Speaker 3: There were suddenly no more bean pots growing at certain 58 00:02:54,413 --> 00:02:58,493 Speaker 3: stage of their development, despite their normal light and the 59 00:02:58,573 --> 00:03:00,813 Speaker 3: normal height and the normal food and all that sort 60 00:03:00,853 --> 00:03:04,773 Speaker 3: of stuff, and they basically started turning yellow. The leaves 61 00:03:04,853 --> 00:03:08,413 Speaker 3: were going down and down. Was awful. So that that 62 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:11,533 Speaker 3: was the problem, and we thought, and I thought, you 63 00:03:11,693 --> 00:03:13,933 Speaker 3: have to go yellow, and they go from gold. I 64 00:03:13,973 --> 00:03:16,573 Speaker 3: haven't heard about a new variety of fungus in New 65 00:03:16,653 --> 00:03:19,413 Speaker 3: Zealand that this could be, so you know, I had 66 00:03:19,413 --> 00:03:23,973 Speaker 3: no idea. So we started talking about scarlett runners full stop. 67 00:03:24,013 --> 00:03:27,373 Speaker 3: They come from Central America they like. Also, this is 68 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:29,093 Speaker 3: for people who actually want to ever look at this. 69 00:03:29,533 --> 00:03:32,653 Speaker 3: They like well drained soil, loam in a sunny spot. 70 00:03:32,773 --> 00:03:35,173 Speaker 3: I reckon. You can grow them really well where you are, Okay. 71 00:03:36,533 --> 00:03:38,973 Speaker 3: You plant the seeds under a really tall support so 72 00:03:39,013 --> 00:03:41,213 Speaker 3: they can climb up. They go up and up and up, 73 00:03:41,813 --> 00:03:44,733 Speaker 3: and then the root systems when they're finally finished at 74 00:03:44,733 --> 00:03:47,613 Speaker 3: the end of the season. The root systems will actually 75 00:03:47,653 --> 00:03:51,613 Speaker 3: survive the next winter for the next crop. So they 76 00:03:51,653 --> 00:03:58,573 Speaker 3: are literally, technically speaking, perennials. They don't need a lot 77 00:03:58,613 --> 00:04:02,053 Speaker 3: of nitrogen because they are actually nitrogen fixers. They've got 78 00:04:02,093 --> 00:04:05,253 Speaker 3: these these little creatures on their root zone that can 79 00:04:05,293 --> 00:04:07,853 Speaker 3: actually take nigrogen out of the air and turn it 80 00:04:07,893 --> 00:04:10,573 Speaker 3: into fertilizers, which I think is quite a clever trick 81 00:04:10,853 --> 00:04:15,173 Speaker 3: of plants to do. They're long seasons growers. They're regular waterers, 82 00:04:15,173 --> 00:04:17,533 Speaker 3: but not do wet please and that sort of stuff, 83 00:04:17,733 --> 00:04:21,213 Speaker 3: and you harvest the mature pods regularly. If you don't 84 00:04:21,253 --> 00:04:24,293 Speaker 3: do that, you could get into trouble. So what could 85 00:04:24,493 --> 00:04:28,613 Speaker 3: cause this trouble with the beans? Lack of pollination, not 86 00:04:28,773 --> 00:04:33,253 Speaker 3: enough pollinators, hot weather, you know, lack of water. Bees 87 00:04:33,813 --> 00:04:37,773 Speaker 3: sometimes shew the back of the flowers and developing fruit 88 00:04:38,493 --> 00:04:40,573 Speaker 3: to get at the at the nectar. And that's not 89 00:04:40,653 --> 00:04:43,973 Speaker 3: good either. So I decided to call Keith Hammett. He's 90 00:04:44,013 --> 00:04:46,373 Speaker 3: an old maid of mine and he is also well 91 00:04:46,413 --> 00:04:49,253 Speaker 3: known for his sweet peas and his New Zealand Daily thing. 92 00:04:49,293 --> 00:04:52,973 Speaker 3: And he came up with a really cool story, namely 93 00:04:53,893 --> 00:04:56,773 Speaker 3: that the yellowing and the ill thrift of the skylet 94 00:04:56,893 --> 00:04:59,653 Speaker 3: runner could well have something to do what he saw 95 00:04:59,693 --> 00:05:03,533 Speaker 3: in the UK where he came from. See, in the UK, 96 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:09,493 Speaker 3: these timing beans are grown as annual not as perennials, right, 97 00:05:09,973 --> 00:05:12,653 Speaker 3: so you actually get rid of them after a year. 98 00:05:13,133 --> 00:05:16,173 Speaker 3: And the reason is very simple because and it's the 99 00:05:16,173 --> 00:05:19,453 Speaker 3: same with dahlias. Actually it's very simple. You in the 100 00:05:19,533 --> 00:05:21,973 Speaker 3: warm climate you can keep the tubers in the soil, 101 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:25,573 Speaker 3: you know, but not in England, so you really have 102 00:05:25,653 --> 00:05:28,133 Speaker 3: to get rid of them otherwise those roots are starting 103 00:05:28,173 --> 00:05:30,773 Speaker 3: to go down the gurglar. And if you compare that 104 00:05:30,893 --> 00:05:34,293 Speaker 3: what he knows about dahlias, it's quite interesting because when 105 00:05:34,333 --> 00:05:39,053 Speaker 3: you leave dailier tubers in the soil for several growing seasons, 106 00:05:39,253 --> 00:05:43,933 Speaker 3: the performance falls away. It goes down the gurglers slowly 107 00:05:44,413 --> 00:05:48,293 Speaker 3: and it's literally that is not causing the troubles. So 108 00:05:48,453 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 3: maybe there is this little connection between the same thing 109 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:56,733 Speaker 3: with dahlias that are overwintering and the scarlet runners that 110 00:05:56,853 --> 00:06:00,013 Speaker 3: overwinter as well. If you keep them too long, they 111 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:05,573 Speaker 3: go down the gurglar. So he says he's got You've 112 00:06:05,573 --> 00:06:08,373 Speaker 3: got them. So what he says is, look, I've got 113 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:11,133 Speaker 3: three tripods of skylet runners. One of them is doing 114 00:06:11,213 --> 00:06:15,613 Speaker 3: exactly what all your callers are saying, and he's attributes 115 00:06:15,893 --> 00:06:20,453 Speaker 3: to stress and to all the tubers if you like 116 00:06:20,813 --> 00:06:24,813 Speaker 3: giving up the ghost literally saying that's it. I've had enough, 117 00:06:24,853 --> 00:06:28,893 Speaker 3: I've done so, yeah, all right, exactly. Our idea is 118 00:06:28,893 --> 00:06:31,413 Speaker 3: to get new things at new seats in spring to 119 00:06:31,573 --> 00:06:32,573 Speaker 3: save you that vessel. 120 00:06:32,813 --> 00:06:36,533 Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, thanks RhoD that's great, really very good sir. 121 00:06:36,733 --> 00:06:38,973 Speaker 2: You have a wonderful weekend, and we will catch you 122 00:06:39,013 --> 00:06:42,013 Speaker 2: again soon. Route climb past our man in the garden. 123 00:06:42,253 --> 00:06:44,333 Speaker 2: We're stacking with the veg theme right after the eleven 124 00:06:44,333 --> 00:06:47,173 Speaker 2: o'clock news. We're going to look at the difference in 125 00:06:47,333 --> 00:06:50,813 Speaker 2: cost and quality between the fruit and vegi boxes you 126 00:06:50,853 --> 00:06:53,933 Speaker 2: can get as a subscription service versus the fruit and 127 00:06:53,973 --> 00:06:57,013 Speaker 2: vegis you get at the supermarket, not so that I'm 128 00:06:57,053 --> 00:06:59,973 Speaker 2: producing quiet enough. Caps comes yet to be offering a 129 00:07:00,013 --> 00:07:02,813 Speaker 2: subscription service. They're good though, trust me, they're good. I'm 130 00:07:02,813 --> 00:07:04,613 Speaker 2: not put a photo up on my Facebook page actually 131 00:07:04,613 --> 00:07:06,213 Speaker 2: so you can have a look be impressed at what 132 00:07:06,493 --> 00:07:08,893 Speaker 2: growing at the Tame household One time. 133 00:07:09,733 --> 00:07:12,813 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 134 00:07:12,893 --> 00:07:15,733 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 135 00:07:15,813 --> 00:07:17,653 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.