1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: The Rural Report on the evident duper s Elan Drive 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: with Anne's Kofoods, New Zealand's famous beef and lamb. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Jamie McKay, host of the Country's Off the Plane Now O. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: Jamie, we'll today, Heather. I'm sorry about the background noise 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: and at Wellington Airport on the way to Tauranga. And 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: I know that Wayne Langford, the president of Federated Farmers, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: filled the gap admirably. He's a man to be admired. 8 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: It's a very good video on him on the Herald 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: website today on mental health battles and also you know 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: what he's done around that Meet the Need food charity 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: along with Shivorn O'Malley, is absolutely wonderful. He's a good 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: front man for farmers. 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: So how late were you and who were you flying with? 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: No? 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: Look, I'm on time to be perfectly honest, Heather, But 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: I was just running a fine countlet to do this cross. 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: So I'm here and now and I'm raring to go. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: So we should apologize to Air New Zealand for all 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: of the all of the things that we said about them, 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: and therefore we do apologize to them. What do you 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: make of this thing that they're doing, and I looked 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: at it and I thought, I said this, Dwayne as 23 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: well looked at it. I though, Okay, it's noble intentions. 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: You want to put the climate tax on. It's never 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: going to happen because it hasn't happened here, hasn't happened 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: anywhere else. 27 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, it's probably easy to put 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: a climate tax on in a place like Denmark than 29 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: New Zealand, because I don't think there is their major 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: export there, even though they do milk a few cows. 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: They're going to be the first country to propose the 32 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: introduction of a carbon or methane tax. Whether they do, 33 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: it's yet another thing. So they're going to tax farmers 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: at seventy dollars per ton by twenty thirty, it goes 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: up to one hundred and seventy by twenty thirty five. 36 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: I think it's roughly and wayIn would know the numbers 37 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: better than me. One hundred dollars or one hundred euros 38 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: per cow. But you know European farmers here that nothing 39 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: they enjoy more than a good protest. They're unlikely to 40 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: take this one lying down. And despite despite the cost 41 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: of this apparently big tax deductions, meaning the real cost 42 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: will be considerably less for Danish farmers. And you know, 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: but the danger for us here in New Zealand is 44 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: they are seen to be doing the right thing by 45 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: the climate and the planet, they're likely to seize the 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: opportunity and make life a bit more difficult for New 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Zealand agricultural exports into the EU. So watch the space 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: on that one. 49 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Do you like the look of the sum panel that's 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: been appointed to do the methane review? 51 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that many of them to be. 52 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: Nicola Shadwald is a professor at Massi University. I think 53 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: she's a FONTIRA or was a FONTIRA director. Professor Dave 54 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: fram as a well regarded climate science to see, and 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: though he stood me up for an interview either, I 56 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: won't hold that against Professor Dave. The rest the rest 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: I don't really know. But Wayne Langford's bang on. He said, look, 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: you know, the current methane duck targets are incredibly devised, 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: the highly political, very questionable science underpinning them, and you 60 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: know those numbers for twenty fifty was going to destroy 61 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: livestock farming in this country and even ten percent by 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: twenty thirty was going to see sheep and beef production 63 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: down by twenty percent. So look, I'm glad they're doing 64 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: something about it. We'll judge them on their merits. 65 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: When are we actually going to get it? I mean 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about what they're going to do 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 2: with the live exports this government. But when are we 68 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 2: actually going to get a decision? Finally? 69 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: Well, I see that the government and talking about Federated Farmers. 70 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: Of course, a former Federated Farmer's President these days, act 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: MP and Associate ad Minister Andrew Hoggard is saying the 72 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: government's progressing its commitment to reinstate live cattle exports by sea. 73 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: Remember at this stage it's only live cattle, it's certainly 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: not sheep there and consultation is set to start in September. 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: Reinstating the live livestock exports will by sea will require 76 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: an amendment to the Animal Welfare Act of nineteen ninety nine. 77 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: But remember, Heather, it's tough times. It's five hundred billion 78 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 3: dollar industry per annum. That might even buy a few 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: cook straight fairies. 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Jamie Watson, why are you need it there? 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: Well, it was a long planned trap and it's been 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: bookended by a couple of farming events either side of it. 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: But I didn't realize I was going to, namely the 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: South Island Airy Event and christ Church that I've been 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: at this week and then the Primary Industry Summit and 86 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Awards in Wellington on Tuesday. But no got a sun 87 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: up there with a commercial cleaning business, Heather super Clean, 88 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: for all your cleaning needs, and I'm going up. I'm 89 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: coming up to visit them now. Just before I go, 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: one more shameless plug the Rabobank Good Deeds promotion. This 91 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 3: is legit because they're a good customer. If you've got 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: a rural community project, you want some support for your 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: local footy club or paint your hall, go to rabobank 94 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: dot co dot z enter the competition. We've got five 95 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: grand and a day's labor from the teams at Rabobank 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: and the country, which is just me. I love it. 97 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: Jamie, Thank you very much. Look after yourself mate. That's 98 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Jamie McCain and enjoy your long weekend. 99 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Plasy Allen Drive, listen live to 100 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: News Talks at b from four pm weekdays, or follow 101 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio