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Speaker 2: News togs, edb Aud and Welcome Today, Crime targets and

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Speaker 2: tough sentences. New laws of being introduced. The government's reproodcard

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Speaker 2: Minister on all of that and other matters, autaned the airport,

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Speaker 2: the capital raised there after a shedload of money. Ryan

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Speaker 2: Four Fosky Welcome to the day, seven past sixer. Beyond

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Speaker 2: Meat are about to launch a whole muscle steak alternative

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Speaker 2: that mimics the taste and texture of philet. A small

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Speaker 2: warning it won't work. The other products they've produced haven't

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Speaker 2: worked either. They're an example of the so called modern age,

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Speaker 2: using new tech and a theory to convince themselves we

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Speaker 2: are ready for change. People often underestimate how slow we

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Speaker 2: are to change, or indeed, how we really don't want

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Speaker 2: to change at all. Beyond Meat is an interesting story

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Speaker 2: and worth reading. About if you haven't followed it over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Essentially, they were a form

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Speaker 2: or another form of these ideas that got plenty of

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Speaker 2: seed money behind it based on what really is a

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Speaker 2: whim Farming, they argued, is too intensive, so let's make

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Speaker 2: your stake in a factory. Let's save the world. Raising

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Speaker 2: capital doesn't seem hard if you've got the right story.

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Speaker 2: Whether the story ever makes money doesn't seem to bother people.

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Speaker 2: Solar is another industry currently falling apart but still raising

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Speaker 2: a fortune. The electric car industry is a headline act

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Speaker 2: in the art of getting ahead of the curve. So

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Speaker 2: this time Beyond Meat are trimming their product list and

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Speaker 2: selling you on fake meat based on health. Forget the planet,

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Speaker 2: this stuff's good for you. Of course, what fake anything

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Speaker 2: does is make up for the fact it's not real

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Speaker 2: by inventing something that might make it seem real. Soft

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Speaker 2: drinks that are sugar free, are you post a child?

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Speaker 2: Look at what makes it sweet? Oh it's not sugar,

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Speaker 2: so it's sugar free. But the replacement you don't want

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Speaker 2: to know about it. Fake meat is the same. It's

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Speaker 2: stuff full of things that aren't good for you. Because

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Speaker 2: one of the health lessons you learn fairly early on

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Speaker 2: if you study these things. Is natural as better processed

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Speaker 2: is bad. Fake tends to be processed if not, in

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Speaker 2: fact ultra processed. If meat is a worry for you,

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Speaker 2: moderation is your answer, not fake. I also have a

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Speaker 2: theory that complicated and troubled times, which is the sort

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Speaker 2: we currently live in, leads us to want less upheaple

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Speaker 2: and less change. We want comfort and surety fake meat

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Speaker 2: isn't that? And beyond meat are about to find that out.

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Speaker 2: Now the pigs have laid some charges against mister Rath,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of questions remain.

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Speaker 4: Is this good part of a conspiracy? Is he a

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Speaker 4: lone gudness? He's a long gardner President Trump? Is that

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Speaker 4: much saved because we haven't. But if it's part of

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Speaker 4: a conspiracy, then this whole thing really takes on a

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Speaker 2: Rath seemed exercised about a bunch of stuff, as they

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Speaker 5: Why world leaders are not sending military is beyond me.

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Speaker 5: We're going to have to elect new leaders the next

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Speaker 5: go around that have a backbone and you have the

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Speaker 5: afforded to to say, hey, we're not going to tolerate

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Speaker 5: this type of behavior.

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Speaker 2: Trump put out a statement of blame.

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Speaker 6: Former President Donald Trump told Fox Digital Today, it's rhetoric

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Speaker 2: Both candidates will carry on with his schedules, though once

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Speaker 2: again the calls go out for something to be done

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Speaker 2: about the divisiveness of it all.

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Speaker 6: It's unconscious of that a president of this United States

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Speaker 6: be shot at twice publicly, and people know it, and

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Speaker 6: yet we are still confused in fighting. Let's stop the hate,

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Speaker 6: Let's stop the violence.

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Speaker 2: That's Martin Luther King's niece then, and Brittan Hugh Edwards

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Speaker 2: as a lucky man. Given as sentencing involved in not

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Speaker 7: Almost always, if not always, these cases are committed to

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Speaker 7: the Crown Court for sentence and a sexual high prevention

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Speaker 2: Meantime, Sakia, who may or may not be in a

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Speaker 8: I'm very interested the work that the Prime Minister here

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Speaker 8: It's about the politics of pragmatism. The British are very

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Speaker 2: Finally, doctors have found a third state, this is between

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Speaker 2: life and death. You suggest you've being It could redefine

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Speaker 2: modern biologists in Washington. Third stages when cells of something

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Speaker 2: the problem appears to be that the market isn't regulated.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, if you've got enough money and

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Speaker 2: not entirely sure. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: It'd be and one of those ironic things. Having told

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Speaker 10: Everyone loves talking about the airport, don't they.

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Speaker 2: They love talking about it. They don't like the airport itself.

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Speaker 10: Everyone's got a story or a view and experience and

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Speaker 10: because you're right. They're raising a sort of money, and

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Speaker 10: the largest capital raisings we've seen on the internets in

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Speaker 10: quite some time. So one point two billion, that is, Mike,

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Speaker 10: over a more extended period from the nineteenth to September

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Speaker 10: got time. If your retail investor out there that owns

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Speaker 10: For those of you that aren't familiar with Auckland Airport,

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Speaker 10: deliver the build on that new terminal. Now what's happening here, Mike,

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Speaker 10: be a story. They don't need this money or for

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Speaker 10: Well, high frequency data like this might They were commented

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Speaker 10: on quite prominently in the recent RBNS monetary policy statement

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Speaker 10: in the sense that they'd all to negative quite recently

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Speaker 2: There was a small improvement.

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Speaker 10: There is conceivable might that we've seen past the low

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Speaker 10: point in the cycle there for manufacturing, but I expect

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Speaker 10: eight from forty four point four. Long term averages fifty

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning mate. What was your assessment of

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Speaker 11: a great thing. In terms of the pricing, frankly, I

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Speaker 11: don't buy that we actually are cheaper than comparable airports

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Speaker 11: in New Zealand at the moment. And if you look

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Speaker 11: at Jetstar, they've grown twenty nine percent domestically out of

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Speaker 11: Oakland in the last year and actually thirty three percent internationally.

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Speaker 11: So I guess the question you might ask is to say,

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Speaker 11: is are we seeing airlines actually identifying opportunities for them

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Speaker 11: to grow in a market that's got relatively muted competition.

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Speaker 11: Right now, you've got two airlines they have ninety percent

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Speaker 11: of the market across the tabment.

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Speaker 2: Always good to have you on the program, Appreciate it

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Speaker 2: very much. Kerryhuda Hangganui, who's the CEO at Auckland Airport,

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Speaker 2: seventeen minutes away from seven Just quickly, sin Lay speaking

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Speaker 2: of raising money a different story, of course, but they've

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Speaker 2: had a world of pain and we've covered a lot

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Speaker 2: on this program. They finalized their four hundred and fifty million.

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Speaker 2: It's a credit facility and it's all sorts of things

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Speaker 2: with all sorts of different banks, and there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of banks as the A and Z Bank of China,

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Speaker 2: Bank of Communications, China Construction Bank, HSBC Industrial and Commercial

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Speaker 2: Bank of China, Kiwibank and Rabobank. But they've got them

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Speaker 2: so they're still alive, which is good. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 2: Morning to you, mister Barney. He's having the time of

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Speaker 2: his life or that's a ten one. He wants to

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Speaker 2: shoot himself and run back to the countryside.

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Speaker 18: I think at the moment, you know he's putting a

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Speaker 18: brave face on it.

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Speaker 1: Mike.

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Speaker 18: You know, he took over this job as Prime Minister,

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Speaker 18: promising to bring in, you know, a wide range of experts,

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Speaker 18: wide range of politicians, to give the country a new government.

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Speaker 18: We still don't have one. What's actually been happening is

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Speaker 18: that every time he sort of thinks he's getting somewhere,

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Speaker 18: the far right come along and say, wow, we don't

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Speaker 18: quite like that. We're not quite sure. So he's lost

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Speaker 18: a lot of time in that, and of course that

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Speaker 18: you know, the question is can he even survive Mike.

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Speaker 18: He says he may well have a government by the

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Speaker 18: end of this week, possibly early next week. But of

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Speaker 18: course we've already been hearing from the left wing parties

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Speaker 18: in Parliament that they're going to vote against it, and

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Speaker 18: they're going to vote against Macaron try and bring on

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Speaker 18: a center motion against him. And of course we have

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Speaker 18: the figure of Marine Le Penn. You know, she doesn't

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Speaker 18: have that many MPs in this parliament, only one hundred

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Speaker 18: and forty two, which, yes, it's more than she had before,

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Speaker 18: but it's quite small compared to the other parties. She

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Speaker 18: is now saying that she will support Michel Bagnier, while

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Speaker 18: ever it is in her interest. So she's essentially, even

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Speaker 18: though she came out, you know, third and did not

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Speaker 18: very good, she will accommodate his views so long as

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Speaker 18: they met her. So she's sitting there mic wanting to

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Speaker 18: look as though she's the great statesman, the great person,

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Speaker 18: holding France in her hand, having the future of France

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Speaker 18: in her hand. Meanwhile the rest of the population saying, well, hey,

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Speaker 18: you know most of the Parliament has gone come from

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Speaker 18: the left. What's going on here? So it's an absolute mess.

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Speaker 18: The Prime Minister was meant to hand over to the

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Speaker 18: officials the budget for next year, that was meant to

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Speaker 18: happen on Monday, that's supposed to start being debated on

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Speaker 18: the first of October, and Parliament and Mike it's just

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Speaker 18: a mess. They're looking at what GDP dared her five

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Speaker 18: point six percent. The people who don't like that are

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Speaker 18: the EU and the ratings Agency. They've got to find

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Speaker 18: something like sixteen billion euros and savings. So a mess,

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Speaker 18: like a mess.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the EU, this guy Britain who's quit. Is

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Speaker 2: is Vandalyon a problem or is it just Britain v

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Speaker 2: Vandalion that's the problem.

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Speaker 18: It's a bit of both. Actually, I mean there was

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Speaker 18: no personal chemistry at all between a sort of on Delon,

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Speaker 18: who's the President of the Commission that's the executive arm

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Speaker 18: of the EU, and Terry Breton, who came from France.

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Speaker 15: He had a.

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Speaker 18: Pretty heavy portfolio, Mike, he had industrial policy, he had strategical, autonomic,

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Speaker 18: he had a really heavy portfolio. He did not get

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Speaker 18: on with Vandalian she did not get on with him.

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Speaker 18: But France supported him because France was a founding member

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Speaker 18: of the EU and it's Europe's second largest economy. But

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Speaker 18: then apparently it's all sort of.

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Speaker 2: Broke out into the open.

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Speaker 18: First thing Monday morn him when Terry Britton just threw

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Speaker 18: in the towels that he wasn't going to work with

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Speaker 18: Roonderline anymore. There new parliament, there's new executive that spends

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Speaker 18: me up and running. Is now sort of scrambling around

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Speaker 18: looking for commissioners. I need twenty six of them and

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Speaker 18: they've all got to be vetoed by the Parliament. So

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Speaker 18: that's what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: That's a shambles as well. Hey, by the way, just

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Speaker 2: a quick word, I've got every I've got everyone by

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Speaker 2: you underwater in Europe it is it subsiding. Is it

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Speaker 2: sorted yet or not?

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Speaker 9: No, it's not sorted.

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Speaker 18: If you're in eastern Europe, particularly in Poland Czech Republic,

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Speaker 18: it is not going away. And towns, particularly in Poland

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Speaker 18: have already been asked to move. So yeah, it's your

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Speaker 18: autumn has come pretty early for parts of Europe.

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Speaker 2: Okay, dinner at the restaurant of your choice, paid for

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Speaker 2: by either you or me. Take the bet. Now do

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Speaker 2: you have a government by next week?

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Speaker 18: I'm not going to bet on that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 18: With someone else.

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Speaker 2: Now we go gatherin field in France. It's nine away

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Speaker 2: from seven on.

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Speaker 1: My costal breakfast with the Jaguar f base News Talks.

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Speaker 2: eNB bringa text, Mike, shout out to Wayne Brown Ork

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Speaker 2: the mayors of the eight hundred million or seven percent

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Speaker 2: of the council airport's stake at eight dollars eleven or

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Speaker 2: four percent premium to the close a year ago, think

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Speaker 2: interest cost savings. Today we have the airport raising one

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Speaker 2: point four billion at six ninety five or seven percent discount.

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Speaker 2: They're punchy and of course, if Wayne had had his way,

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Speaker 2: he would have sold the lot. Now speaking of money,

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Speaker 2: turns out that the full flourish of Treasury's view of

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Speaker 2: the economy is being released this morning on the great

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Speaker 2: tax package and the great debate of the National Party.

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Speaker 2: Did the tax cuts fuel inflation? That was the big debate.

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Speaker 2: Did the tax cuts fuel inflation? Answer? No, So several

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Speaker 2: different scenarios that Treasury ran. The government cuts spending without

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Speaker 2: cutting taxes. Are the government cut spending and cut taxes

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Speaker 2: at the same time. The government funded tax cuts with debt.

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Speaker 2: The government funded the tax cuts through debt and additional

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Speaker 2: tex is the verdict. The tax package would not have

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Speaker 2: made much of an impact on inflation either way. The

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Speaker 2: package was found to have a net negative contribution to inflation.

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Speaker 2: So there five minutes away from seven all.

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Speaker 3: The ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Apple News first start showing how many people are lining

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Speaker 2: up to buy this new iPhone sixteen. During the first weekend,

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Speaker 2: there were thirty seven million pre orders for the various

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Speaker 2: sixteen series phones. That's a drop of twelve point seven

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Speaker 2: percent year on year compared with the iPhone fifteen S

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Speaker 2: first weekend of sales is that the economy could be

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Speaker 2: theory as it's because though the big new thing that

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Speaker 2: was coming with the phone, this is this AI thing,

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Speaker 2: the Apple Intelligence, that's not actually on the phone yet,

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Speaker 2: so they launched the phone without the bit that they

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Speaker 2: said that's on the phone. So the standard version and

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Speaker 2: the Plus version they're up in numbers of units sold,

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Speaker 2: So that might be an economic thing. People are buying cheaper,

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Speaker 2: but they got minimal excuse me, impact on overall sales.

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Speaker 2: Most people apparently go for the Prayer with the Pro

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Speaker 2: Max compared to the iPhone fifteen Pro and Pro Max

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Speaker 2: sales are down sixteen and twenty seven percent, respectively. So

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Speaker 2: could be economic, could be the lack of a I

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Speaker 2: news for you in a couple of moments, Sonny Kosher

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Speaker 2: last time, he's on the business of the Crime Prevention Group, right,

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Speaker 2: that was the big group that they were going to meet.

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Speaker 2: Last time we had, Sonny on seven weeks after the

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Speaker 2: committee had been formed. They hadn't actually even met. So

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Speaker 2: I understand they have met. They've had their inaugural meeting,

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Speaker 2: and of course we get the information yesterday that we've

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Speaker 2: got some troubles around some of the government's targets on crime.

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Speaker 2: We also get the announcement that the sentencing is going

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Speaker 2: to Parliament this week. They're going to toughen up on

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Speaker 2: the old sentencing. We will talk to Christoph Luxin about

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Speaker 2: that after seven three. But Sonny Coacher is with us

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Speaker 2: in the next half hour and people we like who

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Speaker 2: do interesting things overseas from that particular series which I

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Speaker 2: literally just made up. Ryan Fox is back for a

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Speaker 2: catch up after.

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Speaker 3: Eight the breakfast show You Can Trys, the Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, News Dogs.

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Speaker 2: Head being seven past seven, So got one of the

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Speaker 2: government's quarterly reports on their targets they set for themselves yesterday.

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Speaker 2: One of the areas of concern appears to be this

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Speaker 2: violent crime. So the target is a reduction by twenty

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Speaker 2: thirty or twenty thousand incidents to twenty thousand fewer incidents.

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Speaker 2: The latest number hasn't in faked up by thirty thousand.

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Speaker 2: Crime Prevention Group President Sunny courtials were a sunny morning.

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Speaker 19: To you, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: You finally met. Did you meet and solve the problem?

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Speaker 19: We have introductory meeting and I won't steal a Minister's thunder,

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Speaker 19: so he would be making an announcement this week with

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Speaker 19: the more details. But I can tell you why we

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Speaker 19: are going to work on some of the very important

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Speaker 19: pieces on the reforms, including the legislative reforms you know

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Speaker 19: that might include you know, these security guards empowerment and

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Speaker 19: how do you using those face expedition technology and some

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Speaker 19: crimate reforms which need to be done. So you would

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Speaker 19: be hearing quite a lot more from us.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. Should we be worried about this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, thirty thousand, that's obviously a problem, but when

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Speaker 2: you're looking to cut it by twenty thousand, and it's

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Speaker 2: by twenty thirty and we're sitting here in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: it's hardly an emergency right here, right now.

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Speaker 9: Is it, Mike?

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Speaker 19: There's no question New Zealand has become more violent. This

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Speaker 19: is survey Crime and Victims Survey targets July twenty twenty

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Speaker 19: two to July twenty four, which is the last two years.

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Speaker 19: So there's no surprises here what we have witnessed in

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Speaker 19: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, the level of

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Speaker 19: crime that have increased, and also you know, stopping crime

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Speaker 19: is not difficult, Mike, provided you want to do it.

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Speaker 19: The messes that we are getting the police and the

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Speaker 19: ministers they want to do it. While it may take

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Speaker 19: time to change, but it need to be dealt with

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Speaker 19: unapologetically and urgently. You know what we have seen recently,

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Speaker 19: for example in operand CBD my personal experience, I own

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Speaker 19: a business over there, so increased patrolling has shown a

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Speaker 19: promising results in op on CBD, exactivity is getting cleaned up.

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Speaker 19: You know we are going to see more reduction. So

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Speaker 19: change has come. It's coming a vanlates are down, but

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Speaker 19: you know there'll be the change in police philosophy if

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Speaker 19: we have the changes in the legislative, you know, the

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Speaker 19: reforms that would make a whole lot of difference. And

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Speaker 19: that's what is required because the accountability, the consequences that

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Speaker 19: have been missing from years and that's what needed urgently.

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Speaker 2: Seems to be on the same page. Where everyone seems

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Speaker 2: to be on the same page because they're heading to

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Speaker 2: Parliament this week. As I mentioned, Sonny, good to catch

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Speaker 2: up with you appreciate it, Sunny Coscha. The Crime Prevention

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Speaker 2: Group of President nine minutes past seven past games. We

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Speaker 2: have another look this morning at the side of our

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Speaker 2: kid's health. This is the Qure Kids Annual Child Healthcare

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand report. Hospitalizations are up, inequities are growing.

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Speaker 2: The CEO is Francis Suitor, who is with US France

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Speaker 2: this morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you, Janna, let me ask you the

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Speaker 2: controversial question. Take Maria and Pacific Islanders out of it.

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Speaker 2: What's the state of New Zealand kid's health.

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Speaker 15: It's still challenging. We still have sixty thousand kids a

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Speaker 15: year being admitted to hospital for completely preventable illnesses. Yes,

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Speaker 15: Mariam Pacific contribute a lot to that number, but we're

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Speaker 15: talking about children who are facing inequity. The material of race.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when I look at the it's the usual stuff, respiratory, rheumatic, heart,

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Speaker 2: all of that. It's this crappy damp housing people on

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Speaker 2: benefits in certain socioeconomic areas that are the issue. Is

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Speaker 2: that fair or not?

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Speaker 15: No, that is fair, you know. And what we need

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Speaker 15: is national actions to reduce child poverty with deliverable you know,

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Speaker 15: delivering equitible access to all of those things that you mentioned,

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Speaker 15: healthy and nutrition and appropriate housing. These are the most

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Speaker 15: important ways to positively impact the health and reduce the

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Speaker 15: risk factors across these five areas of health.

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Speaker 2: Here's my concern, I love them or not. The labor

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Speaker 2: government of the last three probably six years, through an

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Speaker 2: astonishing amount of money at people in trouble. It didn't help, clearly,

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Speaker 2: did it, if your reports accurate.

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Speaker 15: Look, the thing is what we need is a national,

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Speaker 15: a New Zealand approach to these things. And it means

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Speaker 15: it doesn't matter what government's inn We've got to look

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Speaker 15: to the future of our pamriiki and say what do

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Speaker 15: they need? Irrespective award, what they.

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Speaker 2: Needed was, according to the last government, more money, and

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Speaker 2: so they got lots more money and it didn't buy

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Speaker 2: our way out of it. I just can't see. But

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Speaker 2: all I mean, I'm not attacking you France. It's all

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Speaker 2: I'm saying is this problem is not new. We've had different,

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Speaker 2: different poll approaches to it. It doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 2: getting any better. And all we can come up with

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Speaker 2: now is, oh, we need a sort of a holistic

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Speaker 2: comboy our whole hands and we might fix the problem

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Speaker 2: kind of solution.

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Speaker 15: Look, I think what we really need is a targeted

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Speaker 15: investment into the health of children which will generate long

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Speaker 15: term population health benefits. So you know, one of the

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Speaker 15: one of the things that I love about this report

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Speaker 15: is that you know, it answers some of the big

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Speaker 15: research questions, and if the questions aren't answered, then then

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Speaker 15: the research will help us develop an evidence based approach

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Speaker 15: to solving these problems for children, I mean YO Kids.

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Speaker 12: Has tapped into some.

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Speaker 15: Incredible researchers, you know, the brains trusts of pediatric care,

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Speaker 15: and it's a collaboration with that group of people who

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Speaker 15: understand and who know where the health problems lie. But

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Speaker 15: also taking it taking a leaf out of lessons from

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Speaker 15: the past. We saw how the slow our COVID immunization

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Speaker 15: program was. You know, it took a long time for

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Speaker 15: some of those most at risk communities to pick it up.

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Speaker 15: And it wasn't till we took a culturally appropriate community

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Speaker 15: based program of immunization that we really moved the dialogue, getting.

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Speaker 12: Everybody and we know it's for COVID.

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Speaker 15: That's the approach that we need to take with childhood

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Speaker 15: immunization generally, and just you know, achieving those targets, reducing

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Speaker 15: the barriers like increasing pharmacy providers, those community based solution.

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Speaker 15: Now we learned a lot from that co exact thing

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Speaker 15: roll out, So you know, so let's you know, let's

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Speaker 15: let if we want to make a real change, even

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Speaker 15: next winter, we need to be providing this immunization to

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Speaker 15: all children age five and under.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I look forward to the time when

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Speaker 2: you write a report, Francis, and you can come on

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Speaker 2: and tell us that things are improving. Appreciate your times

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Speaker 2: always France as suitor cure kids. It is thirteen minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven, Mike. Developing trend when the opposition says the

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Speaker 2: government policy will be bad, it is in fact good.

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Speaker 2: A g tax cuts not impacting inflation, cell phone banded

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Speaker 2: schools is working, starting to make any opposition claim less credible.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you raised that because it brings us to

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Speaker 2: the poll yesterday, the Curier pole, the Taxpayers Union career pole,

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Speaker 2: which I've got a complete copy of and all come

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Speaker 2: back to the finer detail in just a moment. But

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Speaker 2: if you missed the headline news the government are traveling well,

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Speaker 2: which is my overarching theory I've been thinking about for

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Speaker 2: the last couple of days. It started over the weekend

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Speaker 2: when Luxon and Mitchell made that announcement on crime in

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Speaker 2: downtown Auckland. I thought, those are the tangibles you're starting

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Speaker 2: to see now. Then we interviewed Eerica Stanford yesterday and

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Speaker 2: we saw the Mount Albert Grammar, cultural change in schools,

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Speaker 2: tangible change to what's going on in this country. And

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Speaker 2: that's a government that gets re elected. So the poll

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Speaker 2: yesterday National on thirty nine percent, they're up a bit.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand first six point eight, they're down a smedge.

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Speaker 2: It's all within the margin and where it makes no difference.

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Speaker 2: The upshot is the government are doing well. They're sitting

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Speaker 2: on sixty seven seats. Hepkins is in trouble and I'm

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Speaker 2: officially starting the conversation this morning that he needs to

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Speaker 2: be rolled now. The difficulty because his negativity rating is shocking.

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Speaker 2: The net favorability rating. The guy's tanking like a tanking thing.

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Speaker 2: His net favorability as dropped sixteen points. He's Christopher no mates,

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Speaker 2: He's at minus ten. Luson's at plus seven. Remember when

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Speaker 2: we had the conversation that Luxon wasn't popular no and

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Speaker 2: got Luckson. Luxon was a nerd. Luxon was a weirdo.

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Speaker 2: Luxon came from the airlines, Luxon was a corporate luxon

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Speaker 2: on too many houses. And I said, you wait till

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Speaker 2: he gets to be Prime minister and you'll change your view.

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Speaker 2: And sure enough we are meantime old chipster who all

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Speaker 2: can all he can do is winge about everything, and

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Speaker 2: he's wrong on most of it. We've suddenly worked him out.

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Speaker 2: So the question for the Labor Party going forward, and

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Speaker 2: it's an important one, is this a guy who can

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Speaker 2: get his party back into government? Answer? No, So then

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Speaker 2: the question is who do you replace him with? And

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Speaker 2: there's your real trouble. Because that party is so devoid

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Speaker 2: of any real obvious talent, he wins by default, name

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Speaker 2: me a single Labor MP. And we've done this exercise

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Speaker 2: on this program when we get people on after eighte

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Speaker 2: you know, with Mark and co. Over the years, we

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Speaker 2: go through and look at the list, their entire list

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Speaker 2: of MPs, and we go, who's normal? And my god,

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Speaker 2: that's a hard that goes on. That meeting goes on

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Speaker 2: too long because it's one of those meetings we go

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Speaker 2: who's normal and they go what about eh? And I

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Speaker 2: go really and they.

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Speaker 20: Eventually everybody just looks as their watch and goes.

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Speaker 2: Prisisely and so we ended up with Ginny Anderson. Now

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Speaker 2: I love Ginny, A lot of you don't, but she

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Speaker 2: was the most normal labor MP we could find. Once

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Speaker 2: Tewet left, that's it. There's no one else there who's

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Speaker 2: remotely normal to replace Case Sipkins. But when you got

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Speaker 2: that level of favorability, he's toast sixteen past.

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Speaker 2: I'll get back to that poll because I've got the

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Speaker 2: the in depth stuff later on. By the way, trade

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Speaker 2: me property and news. This morning in August, we're still

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Speaker 2: not I mean asking prices. I'm a bit suspect on

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Speaker 2: this what you ask for your property. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: you got an idea, you don't just make it up.

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Speaker 2: But you know the fact that they reported as data

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Speaker 2: or not a one hundred percent convinced on anyway. In

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Speaker 2: AUGUSTA in Auckland, it was down to nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty six thousand, seven hundred fifty do as the significant

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Speaker 2: being it's one point three percent down on July and

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Speaker 2: the first time is it's September twenty twenty that it's

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Speaker 2: less than a million dollars and Auckland. Actually, if you

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Speaker 2: look around the rest of the country doesn't look that

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Speaker 2: expensive anymore. Nationally, the average asking price is down zero

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Speaker 2: point eight percent to two point three two point three

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Speaker 2: percent down on a year ago, down at eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighteen thousand dollars. So that's the national average eight

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Speaker 2: eighteen versus Auckland at nine eighty. You see how they're converging.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen regions, only five have seen year on year increases.

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Speaker 2: They are Marlborough, West Coast, are Tigo, Southland and Gisbon's.

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Speaker 2: You're only North Island area that's seen any positive movement.

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Speaker 2: Christoph Luxen on all of this, Ryan Fox still to

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Speaker 2: a small country. We can't do everything. We don't have

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Speaker 2: sort of domestic heft. We don't have a natural domestic

870
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: market for a lot of large scale operations. Now, in

871
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: some cases where we do do things at scale, we

872
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: sell it off. Sure, of course we're quite good at

873
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: some of it. Farming would be an example, But it's

874
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: why we don't make cars because when we did it

875
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: didn't work financially. We are better bringing them in. But

876
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: one of the great economic quandaries we have is a

877
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: thing called a current account deficit. We buy more stuff

878
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: from the world than we sell to it. This is

879
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: not good. We could mine more than we do. The

880
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: fact that there are thirty five minerals on the list,

881
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: and by the way, that list doesn't include cold or gold,

882
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: means we have a lot of minerals. Are we taking

883
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: full advantage? Obviously not? Could we? Why not? Well, because

884
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people get angsty about mining, But as

885
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: the miners will tell you, it's an increasingly sophisticated industry

886
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: that cleans up after itself in a completely different way

887
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: from the olden days. And here is the simple truth.

888
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: The world needs minerals. We need minerals the same way

889
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 2: we need power to turn the lights on in our

890
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: current predicament around generation and supplies all the evidence you

891
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: need to know we should be prioritizing jobs and cost

892
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: of living over the ideology of renewables and conservation land.

893
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: And those opposed are often opposed no matter what. They

894
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: aren't for turning a fern and a snail beats a

895
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: job in power, and that's just the way they are.

896
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: They are allowed to be obsessed, but they shouldn't dictate

897
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: economic travel. Minerals are an income stream, a job stream,

898
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: and a sensible, viable answer to a lot of economic problems.

899
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: Husky Karen macinnulty Mike more normal than Ginny a next

900
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: labour leader. Well, he says in a way that I

901
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: believe him. He doesn't want it, he's not interested. He

902
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: could be all shy and coy like Jess in her

903
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: and going with no idea. So I suppose that's a possibility,

904
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: but he seems genuinely disinterested. Like Barbara Edmonds goes, I've

905
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: got eight kids, it's never going to happen, you sort of,

906
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: You know, when people say that, you believe them. Carmel Sepalony, Mike, Really,

907
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: that's mainstream you're calling Carmel Sepaloney like. Think Mike Moore, right,

908
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: think Mike Moore, Think David Longie, think Norm Kirk, think

909
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: middle of the road, working class New Zealand. Is Carmel

910
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: Sepaloni any of those things? No, she isn't it. But

911
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: they've got any sort of future. It's never going to happen.

912
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 2: Can I just congratulate please, David Buckingham. David has gone

913
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: straight to the Privacy Commissioner. David is a Queenstown employment

914
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: consultant and he's laid an official complaint about the IRD

915
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: and their business of taking all of our information and

916
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: not telling us and flicking it off to the social

917
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: media companies. He claims the hashing process. So what happens

918
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: is the IRD will tell you, Dar Warry, it's all

919
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: hashed up and so the social media companies can't tell

920
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: whose information is what that, he claims David, and I

921
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: don't know enough about this because I'm not a hashing

922
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 2: expert is not accepted overseas as adequate to anomalize personal data,

923
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: which is the first time I'd heard that. So that's

924
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: a genuine concern they've got a He also, David points

925
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: out the social media platform's got a reputation for having

926
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: a disregard for the jurisdictions of sovereign nations like New Zealand.

927
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 2: Quite right, and he's urged the Commissioner to investigate if

928
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: it was legal and consistent with people's right to privacy.

929
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Speaker 2: I can tell you right here, right now, as a

930
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: they may afflict my information off. I'm not happy. I

931
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: don't like it. They shouldn't have done it. They've overreached

932
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: and we need to do something about it. So David,

933
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Speaker 2: you so far, and it's early in the week. You

934
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Speaker 2: are my hero of the week.

935
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Speaker 1: The big News, bold opinions, the mic Hosking breakfast with

936
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar f base cut from a different class news

937
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Speaker 1: togs eNB.

938
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Speaker 2: We'll get the cash up our parade of clock this

939
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: morning being time of twenty three minutes away from ok

940
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: the Prime ministers with us for this Tuesday morning. Very

941
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

942
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 12: Good morning, Mike.

943
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 14: How I a you today?

944
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: Very well? Indeed, I've got a scandal for you. Are

945
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: you ready for a scandal?

946
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 9: Help me with it.

947
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: I'll hit you with it in just a moment. I

948
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: need to ask you first about about yesterday's You're sentencing

949
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. Lead's story in the

950
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Herald this morning is about the pushback on gang patches.

951
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: Does it amaze you that we can't stop whining about

952
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: the problem and the damage gangs do, and the moment

953
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 2: a government does something about it, we whind some more

954
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: about their civil rights. What the hell is going on?

955
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 12: Yeah, we don't care. It's actually, you know, we make

956
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 12: no apologize for being tough on game members. The stats

957
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 12: that I always think about is, you know, game members

958
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 12: are one quarter of one percent of the population. As

959
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 12: I tried to say yesterday, you know that almost a

960
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 12: fifth of all serious violent crime homicides, I think they're

961
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 12: twenty four percent. Almost a Quordable Arms Act defenses meaning

962
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 12: illegal guns and kidnapping an induction. So you know, if

963
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 12: you want to be serious about having a twenty thousand

964
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 12: people a fewer victims of violent crime, then you've got

965
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 12: to start there. And that's exactly what we're doing. So yep,

966
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 12: people are giving us some grief about it, saying a

967
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 12: lot we pass a bill through this slick committee, which

968
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Speaker 12: we did. Police actually identifies an additional tool that would

969
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 12: help them, which was around these wearing patches inside cars

970
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 12: and or houses and Frankly, it's consequences for a small

971
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 12: group of people. But if that also enables police to

972
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 12: have separate legal activity, that's a bonus. And frankly, we

973
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 12: want an asymmetric and we want to be harassing gangs

974
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Speaker 12: and that's what we're going to do.

975
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: Do you worry one of the suggestions is you will

976
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: encourage your words, not mine the cumulative concurren thing with judges.

977
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: Do you worry about the judiciary pushing back.

978
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 12: Well, again, that's why in Parliament we're going to say

979
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 12: that those rules. You know, that's what we're trying to

980
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 12: do with these same thing laws that we want to

981
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 12: pass as a result, and Parliament is sovereign in New

982
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 12: Zealand and that's why we're we're not leaving it to

983
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 12: judges just to set their own discounts for a number

984
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 12: of reasons. For why, we've seen some pretty horrific cases

985
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 12: where offenders are god off for quite serious crimes with

986
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 12: what I think the public would say and victims would say,

987
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 12: don't feel fear, And there's been some very hectic discounts

988
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 12: that doesn't reflect the harm cause. So you know, that's

989
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 12: why we're capping what judges can do at forty percent.

990
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 12: We're we're getting rid of repeated discounts for young people

991
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 12: and also remort You can show remorse ones, but you

992
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 12: don't get to go it multiple times. And frankly, if

993
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 12: you're going to be hurting people who are sole charged workers,

994
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 12: are on a home own business, you know where they

995
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 12: live above the shot, all that that you aggravating factors

996
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 12: that the judge has taken consideration. But we want to

997
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 12: encourage use of chamber. They're not concurrence sentencing and to

998
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 12: the people, actually that all stacks up, and then the

999
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 12: other bit might be I think is important in that

1000
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 12: sentencing all pieces that you get a lot of people

1001
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 12: who only pled not guilty at the very end of

1002
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 12: the court process and you've read traumal size the victim,

1003
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 12: but importantly way through this huge amount of court time

1004
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 12: and floid the process up. So we're going to say,

1005
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 12: right the sliding scale for early guilty please, you know,

1006
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 12: so you can get up to a twenty five percent

1007
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 12: discount within that forty percent cap, but you know, if

1008
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 12: you want to do later on, it's going to be

1009
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 12: five percent. So all of that is sort of designed

1010
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 12: to say, look, yeah, we've got to go tough on

1011
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 12: the gangs because our big driver of violent crime year,

1012
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 12: we've got to sort out the serious own offend. Then

1013
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 12: we've got to approvenal police officers. We've got more corrections

1014
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 12: officers and prison beds coming, and we've also got changes

1015
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 12: to our thingcu laws as well.

1016
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeh what I'm getting around. I'll give you another example

1017
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: in the miment. I've been surprised and surprised at the

1018
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 2: number of people in this country who seem to be

1019
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: apologists for all that's wrong with it. And the White

1020
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: Tangi Tribunal is a very good example. And then I

1021
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 2: come to the public service, the Ministry of Justice and

1022
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: the League on the Treaty Principles Bill. You haven't gotten

1023
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: to the bottom of it apparently as to who did it.

1024
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: How do you function as a government if you're getting

1025
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: pushed back from the judiciary, pushback from the White Tangi Tribunal,

1026
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: and a public service that isn't adhering to what you're

1027
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: wanting to do.

1028
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 12: Well, you have to be you have a responsibility in

1029
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 12: government and I don't think you know sometimes cabinets and

1030
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 12: ministers have been chrystal clear at the center about what

1031
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 12: they are here to do what there are three things

1032
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 12: in their portfolios are as fixated and focused on to deliver.

1033
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 12: And as a result, I think the public service has

1034
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 12: often had sort of not enough clarity. So that happened

1035
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 12: with the last lot a lot, and you know there

1036
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 12: is lessons of the courts. So that's why you've seen

1037
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 12: us move on things like make legislation, for example, on

1038
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 12: customary rights, because we actually want that to be reflective

1039
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 12: of what Parliament intended that legislation to be back in

1040
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 12: two thousand and eleven. What's got the balance right? Likewise,

1041
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 12: you're seeing us here it was discounting. We're not leaving

1042
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 12: it to judge just to just you know, people sixty

1043
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 12: sixty five percent discounts. And in fact, if people want

1044
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 12: to contribute in the sectimitty process for this legislation on sentencing,

1045
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 12: you know, if they want to harden it up, will

1046
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 12: harden it up. So I think, you know, we just

1047
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 12: have to be clear Parliament since the rules we need

1048
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 12: to Yes, we respect the judiciary, we need to respect

1049
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 12: the public service obviously need here as well, but we

1050
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 12: have to have clarity at the core, at the center

1051
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 12: about what we're here to do, and we're here to

1052
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 12: improve the joint and get it sorted and turned around.

1053
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, on the reply utribunal, marine and coastal areas

1054
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: are characterized by a blind adherence to pre existing political

1055
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: commitments at the expense of fun out blah blah blah.

1056
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: Are you telling them they're wasting their time?

1057
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 12: Well, we'd be respectful, But the bottom line is we

1058
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 12: are returning that legislation to what was intended in twenty eleven.

1059
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 12: That was the legislation that recognized the Maori customary title

1060
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 12: but also got the balance right with legitimate interests of

1061
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 12: all News Islanders on the coastline. And so I appreciate

1062
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 12: the way taking a tribunal has a view about that,

1063
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 12: but we also have a view, which is that Parliament

1064
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 12: is sovereign and Parliament wrote on more than twenty eleven

1065
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 12: the standard and the threshold had been loved and as

1066
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 12: a result, the intention of what was happening wasn't consistently

1067
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 12: what we had in the end. So that's why we're

1068
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 12: moving it back. And I think, you know, that's just

1069
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 12: having the clarity to do that, you know, And again

1070
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 12: on the gang legislation, it's the same thing. It's like

1071
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 12: either you are seriously talking about tackling a fifth or

1072
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 12: a quarter of your violent crime problems with one quarter

1073
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 12: of one percent of the population, or you're not and

1074
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 12: you keep talking about it or you do something about it.

1075
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 12: So I wanted us to do different things to get

1076
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 12: different outcomes. And that's the conversation. And when I push

1077
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 12: my ministers and the CEOs of the agencies is you know,

1078
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 12: when we have a problem on mathematics, for example, it

1079
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 12: turns out you can actually bring in the minister, bring

1080
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Speaker 12: in the CEO, bringing the executive team of the Ministry

1081
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 12: of Education, and within a week determine that you are

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00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 12: going to introduce a Singapore Australian style maths treatment the

1083
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 12: beginning of next year because you choose to do it.

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00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 12: Otherwise you sit there saying, we're just talking about four

1085
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 12: out of five our kids not being with anything at

1086
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 12: high school on mathematics. So I think my approach in

1087
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 12: government was, I know we're doing it differently, and I

1088
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 12: know that's a change from what the public service has seen.

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00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 12: It may even be a change from what the judiciary

1090
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 12: or the way Tony Tribune off for that matter, has

1091
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 12: seen as well. But we are clear about what we

1092
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 12: are here. To do. And I've been transilling that from

1093
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 12: a position we're transmitting it in government, which has rebuild economy.

1094
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 12: You're saw there a lot of better health and education.

1095
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: So then you put out the edict on Friday, the

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00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: cabinet edict around race. So you want a color blind

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00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 2: public service. And yet here's my standal this morning. This

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00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: is aut AUT get their money or the bulk of

1099
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: their money from the state. Correct. Yes, right, So when

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00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: you want to travel as a staff member of the

1101
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: aut you've got to fill out a form, and they've

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00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 2: taken too various considerations, prestige of the conference you're going to,

1103
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: how far it is, what the cost is, risk of travel,

1104
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Then we come to the final box,

1105
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: which is what they call equity consideration. So if you're PACIFICA,

1106
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: you get an extra twenty percent multiplier, if you mar

1107
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: you get a thirty percent multiplier. How's that color bline?

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00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 12: Well, that doesn't sound consistent with what we're talking about,

1109
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 12: which is that we deliver public services like education, like

1110
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 12: healthcare on the passive need, not ethnicity. So that's the

1111
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 12: first I've heard of it. I don't know why that

1112
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 12: would be there.

1113
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: Well, it's near because they're wont and they're wasting everybody's time.

1114
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: This this is my overarching problem. It's you, to my mind,

1115
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: you can't be clearer in what you're trying to do.

1116
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with it, but you couldn't

1117
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: be clearer in what you're trying to do. These people

1118
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: are literally taking the pass. Why well, well, it's.

1119
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 12: A question you have to say, U T But I

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00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 12: mean I think and that's something will follow up on.

1121
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 12: But the point is, you know, as I said, all

1122
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 12: I can do is make it crystal clear. We had

1123
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 12: a long standing position and opposition. We've made sure that.

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00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 12: You know, when you've seen issues like Hawk's Bay last week,

1125
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 12: which you raised within hours, you know Shane Ready had

1126
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 12: it resolved. And this policy piece in this Cabinet circular,

1127
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 12: which was just as formalizing all of that to say

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00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 12: that we expect all public services on the basis of need,

1129
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 12: not ethnicity. And frankly, you know often people say to

1130
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 12: me or what about Maori inequality and equitting and you go, yep,

1131
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 12: Mary will get the support they need based on the

1132
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 12: level of needs as well, and I'll get captured through

1133
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 12: that leads. So yes, I appreciate. There's been a different

1134
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 12: management over the last six years and it's a change

1135
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 12: and we're under new management. But I think the message

1136
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 12: will start getting through.

1137
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 2: Do you And I know you don't comment on poles,

1138
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: but the poll aren't yesterday, and I've gone through it

1139
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: in great detail. I look at all the issues. For example,

1140
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: you lead labor in every single issue now bar poverty,

1141
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: and they only lead you in that by one point.

1142
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: Could that indicate perhaps that you might be sending a

1143
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: message that New Zealand appreciates. But all the wonks in

1144
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: the public service and the judiciary and the White Tangi

1145
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: Tribunal and all the bloody universities around the country don't get.

1146
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 12: Yeah. Well, I think people appreciate we inherit a hell

1147
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 12: of them is. I think they see that we are

1148
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 12: genuinely focused and we are working hard, and we're trying

1149
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 12: to fix the things that need to be fixed and

1150
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 12: realize the opportunities that are sitting there. So I think, yeah,

1151
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 12: I think they can look at our team and go

1152
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 12: okay from US has put good ministers and good portfolio.

1153
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 12: You've got them really focused, they're accountable, they're driving really hard,

1154
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 12: and I think people you know, they want us to try, right,

1155
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 12: they want a government to show up and actually try

1156
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 12: and actually do things differently. And I appreciate, you know,

1157
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 12: I get pushed back on a lot of things that

1158
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 12: people can disagree with me, but I do not care.

1159
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 12: We are here to do the mission, which is to

1160
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 12: actually turn the country around. And the only regret MICS

1161
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 12: I say to my team from day one, is the

1162
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 12: only regret we'll ever have when this comes to any end,

1163
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 12: one way or another, is that it didn't went bold enough.

1164
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 12: We can go fast enough. So I know we're putting

1165
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 12: pressure in the system. I know we're working hard at it.

1166
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 12: But whether I look at law and order, whether I

1167
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 12: look at what we're doing on the economy, our long

1168
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 12: term growth prospects in the economy, what we're doing on education,

1169
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 12: what we're trying to do on healthcare and fixed broken systems. Housing, Yeah,

1170
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 12: we've got a great story on emergency housing. Right, We've

1171
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 12: moved over eleven hundred kids out of motels into social

1172
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 12: transitional private rental markets.

1173
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: Rights though it's true.

1174
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 12: I mean, like, yeah, I at the bottom Linze, Yeah,

1175
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 12: I can tell you we're eighty percent of them. I've

1176
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 12: gone and the good news. They're in a better place

1177
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 12: than where they were now. That didn't That just required

1178
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 12: us to organize differently, to do different management and to

1179
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 12: have clear expectations. Are clear targets one of the nine targets.

1180
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 12: But the conversations about well between some of Poltarka and

1181
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 12: myself and Chris specially as well. Guys, Now we can

1182
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 12: keep talking about this thing will just get worse and

1183
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 12: worse like it has over the last decade, or otherwise

1184
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 12: we do something different about it. Mart Mitchell was done

1185
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 12: a kick ass job rankly and Aukland CBD, and he's

1186
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 12: gone about that job in a different way. He's understood

1187
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 12: the problem, which is complex and difficult. He's worked with

1188
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 12: the agencies. And when you see you know, crime down

1189
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 12: thirty five percent, in serious assaults down twenty two percent,

1190
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 12: of retail crime down fifty cent. Yeah, we've got a

1191
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 12: long way to go, don't get me wrong. And I'm

1192
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 12: not declaring victory by any stretch, and I'll be constructively

1193
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 12: dissatisfied to the end, I suspect. But the point is

1194
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 12: at least we're doing things different. We're trying things, and

1195
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 12: the public just want us to try and they want

1196
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 12: us to focus on them and delivery and why.

1197
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm seeing see next Juesday. Appreciate it. Crystalper Luxan twelve

1198
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: away from.

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1201
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Speaker 2: It'd be a lot of feedback on the obviously he's

1202
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: Prime Minister. You get a lot of feedback anyway, but

1203
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: a lot of people seeing him as increasingly confident, which

1204
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: is encouraging. Wow, brilliant, He's the man all of that

1205
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. I did say see you next Tuesday.

1206
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: I had never heard of it originally when it came

1207
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: up as just into adourn I don't subscribe to it.

1208
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: It's just one of those things I say. It means nothing.

1209
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: Don't text me about it, Harold, don't need to write

1210
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: a story about it. Mike love and will hate him.

1211
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: At least he turns up on the country's largest radio show.

1212
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: That is true. Chris Luckson. I think he was the

1213
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: best ever interview I've heard with a politician. I mean,

1214
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: it's nice if you just say, I'm not sure that's

1215
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: actually true, Mike. If you're both enlightened and angry, go

1216
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: Christopher Luxon and your government with your change is to

1217
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: fruitless policy of olden stay strong to keep the winging dumpties.

1218
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: As I've said all along, the thing about a first

1219
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: term government like this when you've inherited the mess they have. Yeah,

1220
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: you don't want to second guess yourself. Go for broke.

1221
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: No one will ever vote you down or count against

1222
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: you for going broke. And if you hadn't known about

1223
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: that aut I'll come back to that in a moment.

1224
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: But we need to thank one of the listeners who

1225
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: texted us with that detail. We followed it up yesterday.

1226
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: It is a scandal. It is real and if you

1227
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: miss the nuance and subtlety of it, I'll go through

1228
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: it for you in just a moment. Steven away from

1229
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: mate on my costing breakfast with But this is the

1230
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: sort of indefensible nonsense it's going on at universities around

1231
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: the country. AUT. So it's a point system to determine

1232
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: if you get the chance to go on an international trip, right,

1233
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: So anytime you want to travel further than Australia, you

1234
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: have to fill out this particular form. So they look

1235
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: at the prestige of the conference, how far are you going,

1236
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: what the cost is the risk of travel? Who the

1237
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: trip would be funded by, blah blah blah. And then

1238
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: you come to the final box, which is the equity

1239
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: consideration box. If you're not MARI or PACIFICA, the highest

1240
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: score you can get to twenty nine. That's all you

1241
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: can do. If you are PACIFICA, you've got a little

1242
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: bonus there. They give you twenty percent for being PACIFICA

1243
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: because they quote are committed to proactively supporting equity in

1244
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: improved outcomes, or if you're MARI, So that's twenty percent

1245
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: for PACIFICA. If you're MARI, it's thirty percent because they're

1246
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: committed to proactively supporting mari aspirations in tertiary education. So

1247
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: as a non MARI, you get twenty nine MAC score.

1248
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: If you're a Pacificer from the Pacifica Ireland thirty four

1249
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: point eight, or if you're Maory thirty seven point seven,

1250
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: So thirty seven point seven versus twenty nine based on

1251
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: literally nothing more than race. Government issues are very very clear, edict.

1252
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Why then is that nonsense? Still? Continuing?

1253
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,760
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Speaker 2: It is seven past eight. The new PGA Tour season

1257
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: is underway. Other reason I mentioned this is golf and

1258
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: a seasons are a little bit tricky, especially playing the

1259
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: PGA and the dp world too. Like Ryan Fox does anyway,

1260
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: is a fun fact. The off season is eleven days long,

1261
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: shortest of any anyway. The Fox comes off the back

1262
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: of the Irish Open over the weekend. He's planning what's

1263
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 2: next for the rest of the year and into twenty

1264
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: twenty five. So it's time for to catch up. Ryan

1265
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: foxes with us. Good morning, morning mine.

1266
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 17: Right.

1267
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: In preparation for this, I tried to work out where

1268
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: the season's at, the PGA, your tour, Europe America live,

1269
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: and what you need? How many cards, how many points?

1270
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: It's so damn confusing what's actually happening the season wise?

1271
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 14: Season wise, I'm in Europe at the moment, defending Wentworth

1272
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 14: this week, which is pretty cool, and then I'm heading

1273
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 14: back to the States after that. I've got a little

1274
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 14: bit of work to do to keep PGA Tour card

1275
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 14: for the year. You know, I probably ninety five percent

1276
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 14: of the way there, based on the PGA Tours projection

1277
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 14: so yeah, a couple of good weeks and I can

1278
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 14: sort that out, and then I kind of got a

1279
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 14: decision to make at the end of the year where

1280
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 14: I'm going to play from there, whether I keep playing

1281
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 14: in the US or come back to Europe and play.

1282
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 14: You know, I'm pretty keen on taking a little bit

1283
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 14: of a break. I'm fighting a little bit of a

1284
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 14: hip injury at the moment, so that needs a little

1285
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 14: bit of rest and some attention at the end of

1286
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 14: the year, but it's not nothing serious and just need

1287
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 14: to manage it at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Excellent information, So a couple of things out of that,

1289
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: the PG and chasing a card on the PGA Tour.

1290
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 2: At your level of experience, do you feel the pressure

1291
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 2: or not?

1292
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, a little bit. You know, it's especially probably because

1293
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 14: I'm close and I don't need much. So the idea

1294
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 14: now is to not actually think about it that way

1295
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 14: and go out and actually try to win tournaments. And

1296
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 14: that's the easiest way to deal with it, actually not

1297
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 14: think about where you are. You know, golf's a funny one.

1298
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 14: You're always at some point trying to fight for your job.

1299
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 14: I've been lucky in Europe to have a couple of

1300
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 14: wins and take that stress off. But I'm going to

1301
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 14: fight for my job on the PGA Tour year and

1302
01:01:58,920 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 14: year out without.

1303
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 9: Without a win.

1304
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 14: So you know, it's in that space. It's kind of

1305
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 14: a normal scenario to be and so while there is

1306
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 14: a little bit of pressure, it's you've got your little

1307
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 14: ways of dealing.

1308
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: With it, okay, And then the decision as to whether

1309
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: you go PGA or Europe, how do you work that through?

1310
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 14: It kind of depends on how I've gone of this

1311
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 14: week in Europe, if I've got enough to play in

1312
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 14: our final events in Abu Dhabi in Dubai, which I've

1313
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 14: got a bit of work to do there, whether you know,

1314
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 14: coming home and having a rest and sort of might

1315
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 14: hop out of the better option, or you know, if

1316
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 14: I play well in the US coming up, I've got

1317
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 14: a way to play my way into some of the

1318
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 14: bigger events at the end sorry the start of next year.

1319
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 14: So yeah, there's a whole lot of permutations to work out, basically,

1320
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 14: and it's basically very dependent on how how I play

1321
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 14: in the next few weeks. But you know, kind of

1322
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 14: got to look at it as an opportunity to give

1323
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 14: myself a better season next year, depending on how things

1324
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 14: go the hip.

1325
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: How does that unfold, Who do you seek advice from,

1326
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: and who makes the decision as to whether you play

1327
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: on or get it treated.

1328
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 14: I think the decision to play on and get it

1329
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 14: treated is basically on me. You know. I've basically just

1330
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 14: got to torn labor them in my right happen and

1331
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 14: some kind of impingement going on there, which is actually

1332
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 14: relatively common in sport, especially in golf, and it's it's

1333
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 14: been giving me a little bit of grief all year

1334
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 14: without really knowing what's going on. So I've had the scans.

1335
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 14: I kind of know what's going on now, so that

1336
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 14: actually makes things a little bit easier. I've you know,

1337
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 14: I have been managing it relatively well for most of

1338
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 14: the year, so I can continue to do that. But

1339
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 14: it's obviously needs It's not ideal, so it needs a

1340
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 14: little bit of time at the end of the year,

1341
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 14: potentially some treatment. But I've got to probably have a

1342
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 14: couple more scans and inputation with a specialist to kind

1343
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 14: of work out what that plan is going forward. But

1344
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 14: now I've got a bit of time at the end

1345
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 14: of the season to kind of work that out. Now,

1346
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 14: so I've been told I can't do any damage. I'm

1347
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 14: getting treatment by physios and stuff like that to make

1348
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 14: sure everything else around that has working properly, and the

1349
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 14: golf game actually feels like it's in half eat and

1350
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 14: shape at the moment. So we'll just keep going until

1351
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 14: I feel like it's time to stop for the year.

1352
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: Basically, that partially answers the question, so that doesn't play

1353
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 2: with you psychologically. You don't start adjusting swings and stances

1354
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 2: and stuff like that to compensate.

1355
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 14: I have a little bit this year subconsciously, and it's

1356
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 14: probably called some issues, but it's almost it's flipped the

1357
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 14: other way now that I know that there was there's

1358
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 14: now an issue there, and some of the stuff I've

1359
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 14: been struggling with hasn't necessarily been my fault, so mentally

1360
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 14: it's probably a little bit easy to deal with, and

1361
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 14: now we know what the issue is, I can sort

1362
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 14: of work around it with mobility, with some strength and

1363
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 14: the exercises and hopefully take all the pressure off that

1364
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 14: and then sort of get back to where I have

1365
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 14: been the last couple of years golf swing wise. Because

1366
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 14: it has called some issues this year, but at least

1367
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 14: now knowing what's going on, it's a lot easier to

1368
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 14: manage in that respect. So I've got to manage the

1369
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 14: workload a little bit as well, so you know, not

1370
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 14: grind too much and not do too much on it

1371
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 14: week to week. Like the walking and stuff like, that's

1372
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 14: no issue. It's just the golf swing is the one

1373
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 14: that can put a little bit of pressure on it.

1374
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 14: So you just manage that a little bit. But for

1375
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 14: the most part, I can't do any more damage to

1376
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 14: it than what it is there now, and you know

1377
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 14: I can. I can work my way through it with

1378
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 14: some with some exercises and potentially a couple of anti

1379
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 14: inflammatories here from there, all right.

1380
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: Listen, hold on, I'll give you some details too on

1381
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: Chasing the Fox if you're interested. This will be the

1382
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: third edition of Chasing the Fox, which is coming up

1383
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: mid December and when Ryan's back in the country anyway.

1384
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 2: More from Ryan Fox and just in Moment Down of

1385
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: Ireland thirteen Past the.

1386
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, part by

1387
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Speaker 1: News Talks.

1388
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 3: AB new Stogs.

1389
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: Have me catch up with Ryan Fox who's in Europe

1390
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: at the moment. Chasing Fox will give you the details

1391
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: in the moment, as I say, but sixteen past day.

1392
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: By the way, how much Ryn, how much of this

1393
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: is fun versus how much of it's a grind.

1394
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 14: It's about fifty fifty at the moment. I've done a

1395
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 14: lot of travel the last couple of years. You know,

1396
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 14: the US has been difficult this year in that respect.

1397
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 14: I think we've spent thirty weeks traveling around out of

1398
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 14: a suitcase with no base, twenty of that with twenty

1399
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 14: of those weeks or with the family and two young kids.

1400
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 14: So there was definitely a fair bit of a grind

1401
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 14: in there. But you know, I still get to do

1402
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 14: what I love for a living. We've had some great experiences.

1403
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 14: I've still played some decent golf this year as well,

1404
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 14: so I've still had some fun. But some of it's

1405
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 14: been been very hard, and in that respect's probably been

1406
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 14: a little harder than previous years and that in that respect,

1407
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 14: but also, you know, I've got to play on a

1408
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 14: PJ door. That's been a dream of mine for a

1409
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 14: long time. And yeah, I certainly wouldn't swap any of

1410
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 14: the experiences I've had, you know the last couple of years.

1411
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 14: Been able to do that.

1412
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 2: How much of the PGA tour is like full swing

1413
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: if you've seen that.

1414
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 14: I haven't watched a lot of it, to be honest,

1415
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 14: I find it kind of weird watching people that I

1416
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 14: kind of know.

1417
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 9: It's.

1418
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 14: The episode I did watch was the Joel Damon one,

1419
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 14: and that's probably much more what it's like week to

1420
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 14: week for most people. You know, the top guys are

1421
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 14: flying private and stuff like that, and there's a little

1422
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 14: bit of that, but you know, for the most part,

1423
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 14: guys are taking a couple of connecting flights a week,

1424
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 14: going week to week, staying in hotels, you know, just

1425
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 14: grinding and working pretty hard to try to keep their

1426
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 14: job out there. Obviously it's pretty lucrative if you do well,

1427
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 14: but you know, there's a lot of pressure on week

1428
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 14: to week to make sure you're still out there and

1429
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 14: being able to provide for your family going forward. So

1430
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 14: I'd say it's it's probably a fair representation both ways.

1431
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 14: A fear it present representation for the absolute top guys

1432
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 14: we have kind of feel like they have nothing to

1433
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 14: worry about, and then a fear representation for someone like

1434
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 14: Joel Damon for everybody else out there.

1435
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: So the grass is greener in America and there are

1436
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 2: palm trees and lots of sunshine, whereas you're in Europe

1437
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 2: you're often dealing with wind and links, courses and stuff.

1438
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: Does it make any difference to you personally?

1439
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 14: Personally, I probably prefer Europe. We've got a bit more

1440
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 14: variety in the golf course we play. I've got a

1441
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 14: lot of really good friends over here. I've probably struggled

1442
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 14: with that in America and that respect. This year, you know,

1443
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 14: first year, and it's kind of hard to get to

1444
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 14: know people. But it was probably the same in Europe

1445
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 14: if I look back, you know, eight nine years ago

1446
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 14: when I first came over here. So maybe it's just

1447
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 14: a bit of getting used to it over there. But

1448
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 14: I've enjoyed it for the most part. In America. There's

1449
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 14: definitely been some things that were tougher than expected. But

1450
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 14: as I said, I dreamed of doing this for a

1451
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 14: long time and it's pretty cool to actually be able

1452
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 14: to do it now.

1453
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: Good without being too crass about it, I know, in

1454
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: the last couple of years you pulled in excess of

1455
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 2: about five million a year. This year it's a bit

1456
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 2: over one million. Does that affect you psychologically when you

1457
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: think jeez, that's a hotel bill and a rental car

1458
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: and a trip, and I need to earn more money

1459
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: or it doesn't matter.

1460
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 14: To be honest, it doesn't matter. I mean, obviously the

1461
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 14: last two years have been pretty good in that respect,

1462
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 14: but I don't. I don't play golf for the money. Obviously.

1463
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 14: I'm in a pretty pretty good place in that sense,

1464
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 14: So you do think about it. If you miss a

1465
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 14: few cups in a row, it is a pretty expensive

1466
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 14: way to make a living if you're not making money,

1467
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 14: and golf's pretty brutal and mat if you missed a

1468
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 14: cutt make anything. So you know, in the US it's

1469
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 14: probably been in an excess of six or seven thousand

1470
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 14: dollars a week spending to do it. And if you do,

1471
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 14: if you're not making money, it is it does get

1472
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 14: expensive quickly. But you know, you kind of got a

1473
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 14: trust in the end that I'm there for a reason.

1474
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 14: I know I'm good enough to compete and at some

1475
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 14: point it's going to turn around, and you know the

1476
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 14: rewards are there, and I've been lucky enough, you know,

1477
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 14: this year I've still had a couple of really good

1478
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 14: results and covered myself quite easily in the US, and

1479
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 14: obviously the last couple of years have been very good

1480
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 14: in that regards, so yeah, it's it's still been a

1481
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 14: good experience and I'm not worried too much about the

1482
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 14: money side of things. It's more about trying to compete

1483
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 14: and trying to win tournaments.

1484
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: Good on you and go well.

1485
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 12: Well.

1486
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 2: We'll look forward to catching up Ryan Fox with us

1487
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 2: out of Europe. We wish him well for the weekend

1488
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,799
Speaker 2: and I'll give you the address for if you're interested

1489
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: in chasing the Fox third edition. In just a couple

1490
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Speaker 2: get on board with Starling because it's brilliant. I reckon,

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Speaker 2: degrees dot in z Ford slash business. You got that

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01:11:54,240 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 2: two degrees dot in z Ford slash business. How come

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Speaker 2: some people hit me with one of those Glenn, you know,

1512
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: because that's what you do.

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Speaker 20: Oh sorry, I was just being distracted by the acting

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Speaker 20: director of the Secret Service.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll still hit one because it's like still worth

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Speaker 2: doing you sure, yeah way, So otherwise people are going

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Speaker 2: to wonder what you do here?

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Speaker 20: Oh I wonder that every day?

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go pasking. So just to update

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Speaker 2: you on what's going on in Palm Beach West, Palm Beach,

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Speaker 2: No less is Ralph. Seems hard to believe we were

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01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: just talking about this off here. Seems hard to believe

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Speaker 2: that some of the news organizations got his name wrong.

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01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: R U T H is different from South simply by

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Speaker 2: putting an R in. Therefore, if you say South, you

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Speaker 2: would say Ralph, which is, as it turns out, what

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Speaker 2: his name is. They somehow managed to mangle it to

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Speaker 2: something completely different. He's sitting there for a sustained period

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01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 2: of time in the bush with some lunch and a gun. Now,

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: it didn't take long for them to work out he's

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01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 2: not all a few sandwiches short of a picnic, despite

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01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: the fact he had a picnic with him. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: he's seemingly obsessed about Ukraine, spent a lot of his

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: life in North Carolina, moved recently to Hawaii, obsessed with Ukraine.

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: And the problem they've got at this particular point in time,

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01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: as far as I can work out, is he didn't

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Speaker 2: do anything. So being weird isn't a crime, and it's

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01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 2: certainly not a conviction on an assassination attempt. As far

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: as I know, he didn't fire his gun. The pop

1540
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: pop pop that was heard that was the Secret Service

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: who discovered him.

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 20: Yes, and we can confirm that here.

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Speaker 5: As former President Trump was moving through the fifth fairway

1544
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 5: across the course and out of sight of the sixth green.

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 5: The agent, who was visually sweeping the area of the

1546
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 5: sixth screen, saw the subject armed with what he perceived

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,959
Speaker 5: to be a rifle and immediately discharged his firearm. The subjects,

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 5: who did not have line of sight to the former president,

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 5: fled the scene. He did not fire or get off

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01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 5: any shots at our agent. With reports of gunfire, the

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 5: former President's close protection detail immediately evacuated the President to

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Speaker 5: a safe location.

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Speaker 2: Right and wisked them away. My question is this that

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: not to condone nutty behavior in American normal, it's various problems.

1555
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 2: Serial number was wiped off the gun, of course, so

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01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,839
Speaker 2: that's suspicions. That's why they've charged them with some gun crimes.

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01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 2: But sitting outside a golf course with your picnic and

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 2: a gun having not fired, it is not an assassination

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01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: attempt in legal terms. And until they find something like

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Speaker 2: a confession, I don't know where they actually go with this. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: News for you in a couple of moments. Then we'll

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: go to the UK and Rock.

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Speaker 3: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News,

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Speaker 1: togs V.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: So they're going to lay those charges. I find that

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01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 2: hard to believe. So anyway, they're just wrapping up in

1569
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Speaker 2: West Palm Beach and the new head of the Secret Service,

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 2: who is the new head because the previous head who

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01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 2: was in charge when the kid climbed on the building

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 2: and shot him in the ear, then had to turn

1573
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 2: up in front of a whole lot of people in

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Speaker 2: Washington who asked a lot of unfortunate questions about her

1575
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: a competence, which led to her resigning. So he's the

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Speaker 2: new head. So he's pleaded for a bit more money.

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: They need a bit more resource. But in totality they

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Speaker 2: regard yesterday as a success, which I think you probably

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: got to conclude it was. I mean, the guy sitting

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Speaker 2: there behind a fence with his picnic and as AK

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Speaker 2: forty seven, waiting for the president, and two holes before

1582
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 2: he gets there, they've rounded him up. He's run away.

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01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: They've got him. So now they're going to allegedly I

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Speaker 2: just don't know how they charged somebody with an assassination attempt.

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Speaker 20: Well, the FBI, that's exactly what they've said they've said

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Speaker 20: this was an assassination attempt, so they got to prove that.

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Speaker 2: And unless they've got something that we don't know about

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 2: on his phone or as whatever, there was no assassination

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Speaker 2: attempt because he didn't discharge his gun. So how they

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01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 2: make that stick legally is interesting. Twenty two minutes away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 17: International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance the peace of

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand Business.

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01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: Super can we go on Little Morning.

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Speaker 9: Mate to you mate?

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Speaker 2: Hewitwards is not in jail? Are we surprised?

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Speaker 9: No, not remotely, and in many cases for good reasons

1598
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 9: that you know, he should be treated the same way

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 9: as everyone else charged with the same offenses should be treated,

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Speaker 9: which is that you know he downloaded appalling stuff on

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Speaker 9: child pool from the internet. But by and large the

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Speaker 9: sentence for people who do that is a suspended sentence

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Speaker 9: if he hasn't had a previous conviction. And he's had

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Speaker 9: no previous conviction, so I don't think there's much worry

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Speaker 9: about that. There's more worry about the way the BBC

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01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 9: handled it. There's more worry about the way the BBC

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01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 9: bummed him two hundred grand and he's still got it

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 9: and there's a general worry about the way the BBC

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01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 9: conducts its affairs. I don't think that the actual sentencing

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Speaker 9: on the judicial procedure through which Hugh Edwards sadly went,

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01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 9: And it is sad because he was, you know, a

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01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 9: bloke I knew quite well. Never liked him hugely he

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 9: says now obviously, but didn't. But it's there is still

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01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 9: this suspicion, more than a suspicion, that the BBC crowds

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 9: around the people who it values and refuses them to

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 9: be subjected to the same scrutiny that would happen to

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Speaker 9: other people in society, which is what happened of course

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Speaker 9: with Jimmy Sepple.

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Speaker 2: Exactly does anybody ever quote, I mean outside of you obviously,

1620
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: but at a higher level, given at all publicly funded,

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 2: does anyone at government lebel Liby guy actually that that's

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01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: not a bad point, Rod or whoever else. Maybe we

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01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: need to have a look at the BBC and the

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Speaker 2: way they operate.

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Speaker 17: No.

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Speaker 9: I think a few Tories probably did, but I don't

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 9: think they do anymore. And I certainly don't think the

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01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 9: current government, which is about to make some sort of

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01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 9: alliance with the BBC I think over its continued license fee. No,

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01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 9: it will continue to be this vast organization which does

1631
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 9: many many good things, you know, but which nonetheless lives

1632
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 9: its life in a bubble and against to The accusations

1633
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 9: of bias grow by the day and are almost in contestable.

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01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 9: It's a real problem the BBC, and it's a problem

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01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 9: I think not just for you know, the right, which

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01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 9: hates it, but also to the left, which thinks it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Starmer and Maloney. I don't know that you could get

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: two more current politicians who would have less and common

1639
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: apart from the migrant is Is there a deal to

1640
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 2: be done here in some way, shape or form or not.

1641
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 9: Well, yes, I think there is. This is important because

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 9: this is Starma reaching out to Europe. So Starma's vision

1643
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 9: is to reach out to Europe in a way which

1644
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 9: obviously the Conservative Party didn't do because we left the

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 9: European Union. So if you follow that kind of logic,

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01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 9: it means that you have to reach out to people

1647
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 9: who really don't share your point of view. And basically

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01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 9: Georgia Maloney, who has been described in the English media

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Speaker 9: and the BBC particularly today, is far right, which is

1650
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 9: what they described as anyone who is actually entering a

1651
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 9: hole towards Satan is actually basically a satur rate. And

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01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 9: there are some similarities between what Starma may feel about

1653
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 9: the way which the economy is ordered and the way

1654
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 9: which Georgia Maloney fields the economy should be ordered. He

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01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 9: has gone to great lens to say, look, I don't

1656
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 9: agree with Maloney about loads of stuff, but there are

1657
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 9: things we can learn from her, and there are you know,

1658
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,799
Speaker 9: Italy has cut its immigrant quota by sixty four percent

1659
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 9: in the last year. You know, it's done a really

1660
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 9: really good job, partly through jubious deals and everything that

1661
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 9: sorts this out will be dubious with Libya, Algeria, to

1662
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 9: Tunisia and Albania. And I think, you know, if if

1663
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 9: labor can grasp this and move forward on it in

1664
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 9: a way, they can do it more easily than the

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01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 9: Tories could, who were always seen as being persecuting the refugees.

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Speaker 9: There is some future for it with Kiars Darma very interesting.

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01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 2: Just quickly, Rod to wrap this up, how much did

1668
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 2: the doctors get in the in the junior doctors.

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 9: Twenty two percent? Exactly what they asked twenty two You know,

1670
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 9: it's just at a time when they are telling us

1671
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 9: that there is no money in the economy to give

1672
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 9: the junior doctors who were already very well paid twenty

1673
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 9: two it's people will wake up and they will see

1674
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 9: how absurd that is.

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01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: I reckon, go well, mate, we'll catch up Thursday, Rod Little.

1676
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: The problem for Kearstamarund of the other story we didn't

1677
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 2: have time to cover off today is this this bloke

1678
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: and it's not just him. Over the year has been

1679
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 2: many people. But one of the people who gives money

1680
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 2: to the Labor Party is Lord Wahi Dali. Anyway, some

1681
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 2: of the money he gave tuned up to be clothing

1682
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 2: for Sakia and his wife, Lady Victoria. And who's lady Victoria?

1683
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: Turned up in Italy today they said, is that one

1684
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: of yours, Lady Victoria, is it? And the problem with

1685
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 2: that is, of course that's going to haunt them forever.

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01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: Sixteen to two, the.

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Speaker 1: Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

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01:21:58,479 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: News talks it be.

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: While we're just in Britain, a very interesting case that

1690
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: got culminated over the weekend. So there's a teacher, her

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Speaker 2: name's Hussain Mariah has sayn she's thirty seven, carried out

1692
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: a placard at a probe Palestinian protest depicting Rishis Snak

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Speaker 2: and Seuella Braveman as coconuts. So she's been found not

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Speaker 2: guilty of a racially aggravated public order offense. Her defense

1695
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Speaker 2: said the placard was not racist, but it was satirical

1696
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Speaker 2: and humorous. Prosecutor said coconut was a well known racial slur,

1697
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: suggesting someone was brown on the outside, white on the inside.

1698
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 2: The defense described the decision to bring the case as

1699
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 2: a disturbing attack on the right of freedom of expression

1700
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 2: and peaceful protest. Image on one side was Rishi, on

1701
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 2: the other side the Home Secretary Kruella Braveman. I find

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01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: it astonishing it could be conceived as a message of hate.

1703
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: This is her cac in defense of all people, as

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01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 2: being prosecuted for a racially aggravated defense, while the likes

1705
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: of Seuella Braveman, Nigel Faraj and Tommy Robinson seemingly free

1706
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: to make inflammatory and devisib statements on the net, Which

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: is not a bad point I would have thought anyway.

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01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:00,759
Speaker 2: Hussein is a woman of impeccable character. Apparently judge agreed

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01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: two day trial. Placard was part, said the judge, part

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01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: of the genre of political satire who names but nessa

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01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 2: Lloyer the judge as such, the prosecution have not proved

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01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: to the criminal standard that it was abusive. The prosecution

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Speaker 2: is also not proved to the criminal standard that you

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01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: were aware that your placard may be abusive. So she

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01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: gets away with it. Somebody texted me before and it

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01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: wasn't an unfair point either. So Hugh Edwards gets no

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01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: jail time. But somebody goes out and throws a chair

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01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 2: through a window. Not that we're condoning any of that,

1719
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: of course, but during the riots and the protests, they

1720
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 2: get locked up for a very long time because the

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 2: government decides that that needs to be stamped on in

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01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: a major way. So the prisons are now overflowing with

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 2: people who went out and caused trouble. I would have

1724
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: stuck them in jail too, and for a very long time.

1725
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: But then again I would have stuck Hugh Edwards in

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01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 2: jail as well. But then this woman goes out with

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01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 2: a placard with a couple of coconuts, and you think,

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01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,440
Speaker 2: hang on, in this day and age, is that acceptable.

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01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 20: Could they not have argued that it was actually a

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01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 20: bad look for coconuts.

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01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: And then and then it may have heard coconuts. Then

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01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: we'll give the address to the BSA in just a

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01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: couple of moments. And his name is not Mike. It

1734
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: is eleven away from nine.

1735
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: Called the mic hosting Breakfast with the Jaguar Airbase News

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01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:09,759
Speaker 1: Talks EDB.

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01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: I just put the very thing I was going to

1738
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: talk about away. But what it was. It was about

1739
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: Tiano Airport. And they've come up with an idea and

1740
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: the council runs Tiana Airport. This is in Manipurian Fjorudland,

1741
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: so the council runs and this goes back to the

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01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: house I was talking about last week in Monaco drive

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01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 2: at Highlands in Central Otago. So Tiana Airport's got a

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01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 2: couple of things. The costs are high, the numbers of

1745
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: customers are low, so they're losing money. So what do

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01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: they do. Well, what they do is they employ some

1747
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: people to say, come up with some ideas for us

1748
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: to see how we can do it. So one of

1749
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: the ones was boost domestic tourism and all that sort

1750
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: of stuff. All of that's fine, but one of the

1751
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,839
Speaker 2: best ideas they've come up with is sell houses with hangers.

1752
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 2: Now there's a house for sale with a hangar somewhere

1753
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: in the North Island. I think it's north of Auckland

1754
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: at the moment. In fact, there may well be two

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01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 2: houses for sale with hangers associated and one of the

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 2: properties is being a lifestyle block has its own runway. No,

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01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 2: I don't need it. I'm making the same look, it's

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01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: all on my mind. I don't need the paperwork, mate,

1759
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 2: don't worry about it. What else do you do around here? Actually,

1760
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: now that we raise it, have the rest of the

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01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 2: day off. And where was I? So there's two houses

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01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: and they both got hangars for people who love planes

1763
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: as opposed to houses with people who love cars. So

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01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:28,839
Speaker 2: not only that, one of the houses got its own runways.

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01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: So they came up with the idea at Tanna Airport,

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 2: why not build some houses that come with hangars. So,

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01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: in other words, if you've got a holiday home and

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 2: then you could buy a house with a hangar, and

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01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: you could then buy yourself a plane and you can

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01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: go on holiday with your plane in your house.

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01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 20: Well that's what we were talking about, wasn't it a

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01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 20: Paranoi the same thing. There are houses with hangers.

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01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: Well, there are houses with hangers, and there also houses

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01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: with wharves and boats. So you've done it with a

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01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: wharf in a boat. You've done it with a house

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 2: and a hangar, and so why wouldn't you do that?

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01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 2: The only thing about Tiana is slightly remote, of course,

1778
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,960
Speaker 2: but then again, if you've got your plane, not as

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01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: remote as it used to be. Very good idea. Congratulations

1780
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,879
Speaker 2: six minutes away from nine trending.

1781
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 3: Now quit chemast warehouse praise it would sal on.

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01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: Now what's that piece of paper? Semmy? You want to

1783
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: bring it in now? So Netflix latest offering on a

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 2: docco series of one of those great sports stories. You're

1785
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 2: ready for us? Very good game yesterday Kansas City Chiefs

1786
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 2: and the Cincinnati Bengals. Of all the games yesterday, that

1787
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: was the best game, and by some considerable margin, and

1788
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: by the end of it you wanted the Bengals to win,

1789
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 2: but unfortunately they didn't. You Also, if you're like me,

1790
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: how I have a growing antagonism towards Taylor Swift, I admir.

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01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 20: Are you and tramp well so far as to say

1792
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 20: you hate it?

1793
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: No, not remotely, because I like Watch Years in terms

1794
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: of a musical piecing.

1795
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 20: Because I'm just trying to think, did he say I

1796
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 20: feel and agonistic?

1797
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:06,839
Speaker 2: Lord Taylor Swift, her ongoing faux excitement and hugging people

1798
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: is just annoying and if they could just get the

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01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: cameras off room.

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Speaker 20: Well, that's what I found it annoying about her as

1801
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 20: her faux everything. I find everything that she like her music,

1802
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 20: I've seen it right from the beginning. I find everything faux.

1803
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 2: There's a story of her in the British press this morning.

1804
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 2: She's had something done with her back because she had

1805
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: one of those hunch things. She had a sort of

1806
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: a hunchback and now she doesn't. So this got anything

1807
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 2: to do with what I was saying about.

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01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: Next trending now with chemist weelluse the home of big

1809
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: brand fight ements.

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 2: But God's sake, Sammy, can you get that paper in here?

1811
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: It's called the Comeback. It's about the Boston Red Sox

1812
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 2: two thousand and four. They were the first team in

1813
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Major League history to come back from three nil down

1814
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 2: to win their first title since nineteen eighteen.

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01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 13: I have a vivid memory of sitting trying to play

1816
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 13: with THEO in that game, and when the face started,

1817
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 13: he jumped out of a sea and he was like pumped, like, ah,

1818
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 13: finally we like show some energy this year.

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01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 16: I couldn't believe Tech put his hands in his face

1820
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 16: like that, have a perfect angle when he goes down

1821
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 16: to scoop him mop and I thought for sure he

1822
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 16: was gonna like under the giant holcoke and his body

1823
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 16: slam of every barroom and household.

1824
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 3: Used to be like Cardinal Cushing, John F.

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01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: Kennedy.

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01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 10: Even now it's Jason Varitek stuff in his midt into

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 10: Alice Rodriguez's.

1828
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 3: Face, partaking hit him with his mask on.

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01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you think of in the moment when

1831
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 3: he plays it to play at whatever you do, like, oh,

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 3: time out, I forgot I have my mask on. I

1833
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: wear this all the time. I'm gonna go put this

1834
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 3: over there. And that's what it.

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01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: Is, is what it is. Anyway, it gets better. They

1836
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 2: weren't just three Niel down to the Yankees in the

1837
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 2: second round. They were also trailing in the ninth inning

1838
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: of Game four.

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01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 3: Come on.

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01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 2: Out on Netflix, October twenty three. By the way, best

1841
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: story yesterday from the Football the Center before he snaps

1842
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 2: the ball in the Green Bay game, vomits on the ball,

1843
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,760
Speaker 2: snaps it back to the quarterback. Quarterback goes, my god,

1844
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 2: there's vomit on the ball. Do I pass the ball?

1845
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 2: And he doesn't, and the coach said, why don't you

1846
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 2: pass the ball? He goes, because the guy just vomited

1847
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: on it. Cool story Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

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01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

1849
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,880
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