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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp from US talks.

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Speaker 2: At b Oom Stretcher of the hard Time. We took

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Speaker 2: a heart left, but we're all right, yeah sure cantra

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Speaker 2: so put love.

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Speaker 3: Goodie, but we do this ride is so something's ever

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Speaker 3: gonna move it.

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Speaker 4: When the bones are good, rest stone at you, the

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Speaker 4: pain of field.

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Speaker 2: That's good, shadow that.

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Speaker 3: It work this U and I remained.

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Speaker 4: So when they ate a crack in the foundation, Debbiano,

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Speaker 4: the stone well prison for the over bound, we stayed.

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Speaker 3: The hot stone fall in the bones are good.

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Speaker 5: Mm we call it the.

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Speaker 4: Baby you even.

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Speaker 3: Bood drive way plany.

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Speaker 4: But the wolves came when.

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Speaker 3: We standing.

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Speaker 6: Well, A very good morning and welcome along to the

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Speaker 6: Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with Peak wolf Camp. That's

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Speaker 6: me the Resonant Builder, and we're here to talk about

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Speaker 6: all things building and construction. And that's her fairly broad

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Speaker 6: sort of base on which to build a show, because

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Speaker 6: we can talk about literally building, the mechanics of it,

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Speaker 6: the actual physical activity involved in it, what you need,

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Speaker 6: the material you need, the trades people you might need

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Speaker 6: to do it. We can also talk about I guess

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Speaker 6: that sort of structural framework in terms of legislation, so

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Speaker 6: there are rules and guidelines around what you can build

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Speaker 6: where you can build it. A lot of that is

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Speaker 6: actually up for grabs at the moment in the sense

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Speaker 6: that there are moves of foot at a government level

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Speaker 6: to change the types of buildings, the size of buildings

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Speaker 6: that we might be able to build without necessarily requiring

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Speaker 6: a building consent. We had quite a conversation about that

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Speaker 6: last week on the show, and then during the week

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Speaker 6: obviously little pieces of information and little discussions happen, particularly

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Speaker 6: around that topic. And I've been part of a couple

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Speaker 6: of those, number of them that were held while Building

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Speaker 6: z which is a sort of trade based building expo

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Speaker 6: that was on what was it Tuesday Wednesday here in

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Speaker 6: Auckland was on and there I went to a couple

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Speaker 6: of seminars which were interesting in themselves, and then had

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Speaker 6: an opportunity to cat up with a whole bunch of

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Speaker 6: people that some I knew, some that I was introduced to,

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Speaker 6: and certainly front of mine for a lot of people

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Speaker 6: was this new proposed legislation or the draft document, the

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Speaker 6: discussion document that's out at the moment around hey, look

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Speaker 6: what about if we removed the requirement to get a

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Speaker 6: building consent for buildings a granny flat up to sixty

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Speaker 6: square meters, only one of them per property, etc. Etc. Etc.

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Speaker 6: So there's some interesting stuff in that as well. We

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Speaker 6: can talk about that, but we can also talk about

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Speaker 6: the practicalities. What are you what are your projects at

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Speaker 6: the moment, What tasks do you want to try and

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Speaker 6: get done. I think I mentioned that I had one,

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Speaker 6: well one of a number of jobs on my list

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Speaker 6: as well, which, to be fair, I didn't get round

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Speaker 6: to this week. It's on the list for tomorrow. I'll

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Speaker 6: definitely go and sort out a floorboard that's developed a

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Speaker 6: I presume I'm going to have to do some solid

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Speaker 6: blocking underneath it, and then I figured out a way

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Speaker 6: To be fair, I'm just going to fill it full

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Speaker 6: of a POxy. But it's kind of my working plan

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Speaker 6: at this stage. See that's part of the process as well.

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Speaker 6: You have to plan the work that you need to do.

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Speaker 6: I popped into the Razine store picked up some of

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Speaker 6: the repair care product that I use quite a lot

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Speaker 6: in preparation for this little job tomorrow. And because it's floorboards,

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Speaker 6: I'll make sure I put my kneepads in the in

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Speaker 6: So if you've got a project on oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 6: do exactly that. It is nine two nine two. And

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Speaker 6: if you'd like to send me an email, You're welcome

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Speaker 6: to do that as well. It's Pete at newstalksb dot

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Speaker 6: co dot nz. So Pete at newstalksb dot co dot ENZ.

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Speaker 6: Happy happy Matariki to you as well. A beautiful day

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Speaker 6: in this part of the country anyway, to celebrate Mantadiki

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Speaker 6: If you've got a project that you'd like to talk about, Oh,

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Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 6: The lines are open. We're going to have a couple

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Speaker 6: going to have those guests. Bryce McDermott, who I bumped

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Speaker 6: into at build en Z. He was working on the

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Speaker 6: quick face to face catch up. Given that he's contributed

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Speaker 6: to this show for almost ten years, it was nice

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Speaker 6: Bryce will be with us. I'm just trying to figure

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Speaker 6: out this next text that came through how I'll come

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Speaker 6: to that in a minute. So Bryce will be with

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Speaker 6: us from seven forty five. Take your painting questions, your

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Speaker 6: specific painting questions during the morning, and I'll present those

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Speaker 6: two him at seven forty five this morning and then

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Speaker 6: after eight o'clock. One thing that I realized during the

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Speaker 6: last couple of weeks is obviously we have a new

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Speaker 6: sponsor on the show. It's lightfol Solar, and I was thinking, gosh,

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Speaker 6: I wonder if in the last ten years of the

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Speaker 6: show have we ever actually specifically talked about solar as

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Speaker 6: in solar panels and solar power. And to be fair,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that we actually ever have as one

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Speaker 6: of our experts on the show. Anyway, I'm going to

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Speaker 6: remedy that today Marlon from lightful Solar is going to

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Speaker 6: join me here in the studio after eight o'clock and

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Speaker 6: we'll be talking about what I'd like to do. Is

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Speaker 6: kind of like a basically a solar power one oh one.

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Speaker 6: What are they, how do they work, what's involved in

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Speaker 6: the installation, how long do they last? What sort of

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Speaker 6: How do you have to look after them? What's the

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Speaker 6: advantage of having a battery. You might have a question

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Speaker 6: as well, more than welcome if you want to text

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Speaker 6: through a question for our solo expert, Marlin from Light

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Speaker 6: four Solo, who'll be joining me in the studio at

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Speaker 6: eight o'clock this morning, and then of course at eight

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Speaker 6: past as usual. So that's my long winded way of saying,

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Speaker 6: to chatting with you again this morning about all things

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Speaker 6: to me while I was at Building Z to sort

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Speaker 6: That might not be the opportunity today, but if you've

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Speaker 6: got a question of a building nature, you should call

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Speaker 6: New STALKSB. If you've got a question of a building nature,

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Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 6: It is eighteen minutes after six. For those of you

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Speaker 6: might have seen the posts that I put up. Netherlands

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Speaker 6: just talk about give me a heart attack as a fan.

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Speaker 6: Managed to get through to the last sixteen, but criky

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Speaker 6: they made it hard on themselves. And fabulous game this morning.

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Speaker 6: So Switzerland have knocked out Italy defending champions from the game,

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Speaker 6: and of course Denmark play Germany. I think in about

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Speaker 6: a nice at four o'clock start for me on Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 6: Oh w eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 6: the number to call. Kate A very good morning.

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Speaker 7: Good morning Pete, happy not ukey to you and to.

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Speaker 6: You indeed, indeed, thank you Pete.

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Speaker 7: I'm replacing some joinery in an existing dwelling, and I

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Speaker 7: have building consent because it's larger than what was there. Actually,

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Speaker 7: it's two dwellings. One of them has HIV and it's

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Speaker 7: quite dry. But the existing dwelling in that has single glaze,

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Speaker 7: I want double blaze, yep, but I don't need to

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Speaker 7: do thermally broken. And I'm trying to decide about Lowe.

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Speaker 7: One joinery fabricator has suggested that if I put Lowe

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Speaker 7: not thermally broken, and it will push the moisture towards

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Speaker 7: the joinery, whereas if I just do double blaze and

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Speaker 7: not low E, it's not going to have that effect.

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Speaker 6: It's a fascinating I can sort of understand the logic

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Speaker 6: that summary. Let's say, so that's true. Interesting, I actually

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Speaker 6: double glazing. So we had this little booth that had

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Speaker 6: separated by a petition, and in front of each of

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Speaker 6: them spinning, and so they would both be still like,

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Speaker 6: not moving. Then you'd turn on the heat lamps and

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Speaker 6: And one of the pieces of glass that we had

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Speaker 6: included low E so and E is emissivity, which is

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Speaker 6: the way in which heat transfers through the glass, right,

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Speaker 6: So if you get low emissivity, it reduces the amount

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Speaker 6: of heat transfer through the glass. And then you add

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Speaker 6: that to double glazing, which just by having two pieces

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Speaker 6: because obviously heat moving through two pieces of glass goes

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Speaker 6: and then it has to go through another piece of glass.

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Speaker 6: But if you up the speck on that by going

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Speaker 6: low E, you get even less emissivity, i Less heat

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Speaker 6: transfer through the glass. And in what your joiner is

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Speaker 6: and we've still got conventional aluminium jowinery, and the distinction

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Speaker 6: being new aluminium jowinery most likely needs to be thermally

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Speaker 6: broken in order to comply with H one standards of

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Speaker 6: the Building Code because they've increased. But if you're doing

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Speaker 6: only replacing one or two windows, you know, like practically

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Speaker 6: you to put in thermally broken jowinery and low E

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Speaker 7: Right, So to summarize, and I'm just trying to I'm

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Speaker 6: Well, I think that's what the guy is telling you,

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Speaker 6: And again, the reason that doing one part of an

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Speaker 7: The other dwelling does not have insulation. It's nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what I felt was not efficient was to go

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Speaker 6: adding an extractor to a kitchen area like you would

432
00:25:28,295 --> 00:25:31,975
Speaker 6: in a bathroom, It doesn't necessarily, as I understand, it

433
00:25:32,015 --> 00:25:36,375
Speaker 6: have to be arrange hood saying all of that range

434
00:25:36,415 --> 00:25:39,975
Speaker 6: hoods are good and I think kind of essential. So

435
00:25:40,695 --> 00:25:43,335
Speaker 6: if there's an opportunity to put an arrange hood, you

436
00:25:43,415 --> 00:25:47,255
Speaker 6: won't regret it. So even if you're not required to

437
00:25:47,295 --> 00:25:51,575
Speaker 6: do it, they are a really good idea. Plenty of evidence,

438
00:25:51,615 --> 00:25:55,535
Speaker 6: plenty of data about their usefulness in terms of controlling

439
00:25:55,655 --> 00:25:59,375
Speaker 6: internal moisture. So if you're like I was cooking last night,

440
00:25:59,455 --> 00:26:02,375
Speaker 6: I had a pot on the stove bubbling away ready

441
00:26:02,375 --> 00:26:05,055
Speaker 6: for the pasta to go into. That's a lot of

442
00:26:05,095 --> 00:26:07,775
Speaker 6: steam and the extra that we have is able to

443
00:26:07,855 --> 00:26:12,375
Speaker 6: direct that outside, So efficient extraction from kitchens makes a

444
00:26:13,295 --> 00:26:18,655
Speaker 6: significant difference in terms of controlling internal moisture in my house,

445
00:26:19,135 --> 00:26:22,135
Speaker 6: saying that maybe my fan my extractor needs a bit

446
00:26:22,135 --> 00:26:24,735
Speaker 6: of a clean because later and we had a couple

447
00:26:24,775 --> 00:26:27,695
Speaker 6: of people over last night and someone started writing their

448
00:26:27,775 --> 00:26:31,175
Speaker 6: name on the window in the living room because there

449
00:26:31,175 --> 00:26:33,175
Speaker 6: was a little bit of condensation. So maybe I didn't

450
00:26:33,215 --> 00:26:35,775
Speaker 6: turn the extractor on early enough, or more likely I

451
00:26:35,855 --> 00:26:38,255
Speaker 6: need to clean out the filters. Oh, eight hundred eighty

452
00:26:38,335 --> 00:26:39,415
Speaker 6: ten eighty is the number to call.

453
00:26:39,455 --> 00:26:43,895
Speaker 9: Hey, Donna, Hi, I wonder if you could help me.

454
00:26:46,015 --> 00:26:47,855
Speaker 10: I wanted to know if you know of a really

455
00:26:47,895 --> 00:26:50,335
Speaker 10: good sense in concept in Auckland.

456
00:26:51,575 --> 00:26:52,095
Speaker 4: Ah.

457
00:26:52,135 --> 00:26:56,855
Speaker 6: Look, I don't in the sense that I you know,

458
00:26:56,935 --> 00:26:59,375
Speaker 6: I know lots of trades people and that sort of thing,

459
00:26:59,415 --> 00:27:04,775
Speaker 6: but I in terms of actual Ah yeah, look, I

460
00:27:04,815 --> 00:27:07,215
Speaker 6: tell you what the best way of doing it is

461
00:27:08,695 --> 00:27:11,855
Speaker 6: in your area. Undoubtedly there's been some fences that have

462
00:27:11,935 --> 00:27:15,375
Speaker 6: been built recently so as to try and and go

463
00:27:15,535 --> 00:27:17,815
Speaker 6: maybe knock on the door. And I've done this when

464
00:27:17,855 --> 00:27:20,455
Speaker 6: we saw a color, to be fair, when we saw

465
00:27:20,455 --> 00:27:22,375
Speaker 6: a color that we really liked right on a house

466
00:27:22,415 --> 00:27:23,975
Speaker 6: and just went up, knocked on the door and went,

467
00:27:24,415 --> 00:27:26,735
Speaker 6: love that color. Do you mind sharing with us what

468
00:27:26,735 --> 00:27:28,375
Speaker 6: it is? And in the same way that if someone's

469
00:27:28,415 --> 00:27:32,135
Speaker 6: recently had a fence done, and ideally the contract should

470
00:27:32,175 --> 00:27:34,015
Speaker 6: leave their name on it if they're proud of their work.

471
00:27:34,655 --> 00:27:37,575
Speaker 6: The other option is if you go to your local

472
00:27:37,815 --> 00:27:41,855
Speaker 6: hardware store, particularly if it's a smaller one, go down

473
00:27:41,895 --> 00:27:46,335
Speaker 6: to the trade desk there. In some cases people will

474
00:27:46,455 --> 00:27:48,975
Speaker 6: leave their cards. So one of the trade places that

475
00:27:49,015 --> 00:27:51,495
Speaker 6: I go to on the wall, there'll be a pile

476
00:27:51,535 --> 00:27:54,735
Speaker 6: of business cards, right, and then you can always talk

477
00:27:54,775 --> 00:27:56,495
Speaker 6: to the people who are there and go, hey, look

478
00:27:56,495 --> 00:27:58,855
Speaker 6: who would you recommend? So I think having a look

479
00:27:58,895 --> 00:28:01,935
Speaker 6: around the area see if someone's done some work that

480
00:28:01,975 --> 00:28:07,255
Speaker 6: you like. Actually, I was talking with friend this week

481
00:28:07,255 --> 00:28:10,095
Speaker 6: and they had someone come and do some fencing at

482
00:28:10,135 --> 00:28:13,895
Speaker 6: their place ahead of a new build, and whoever it

483
00:28:14,055 --> 00:28:16,695
Speaker 6: was had decided pretty much to leave their tape measure

484
00:28:16,735 --> 00:28:19,695
Speaker 6: at home. So when they looked at the finished product,

485
00:28:20,855 --> 00:28:23,895
Speaker 6: the posts were all at different centers. So some posts

486
00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:27,055
Speaker 6: were like two meters apart and then another one was

487
00:28:27,135 --> 00:28:30,175
Speaker 6: up to two point seven meters apart, and then oh

488
00:28:31,215 --> 00:28:35,095
Speaker 6: so yeah, don't get that fencing contractor no.

489
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:38,655
Speaker 10: I have another quick question. Sure you know the Healthy

490
00:28:38,695 --> 00:28:42,935
Speaker 10: Home standard, Yes, installation does it just have to be

491
00:28:42,975 --> 00:28:44,775
Speaker 10: in the ceiling or does it have to be under

492
00:28:44,775 --> 00:28:45,495
Speaker 10: floor as well?

493
00:28:46,455 --> 00:28:50,095
Speaker 6: The requirement is for it to be in the ceiling

494
00:28:50,175 --> 00:28:54,455
Speaker 6: and in the underfloor if they are accessible, so it's

495
00:28:54,575 --> 00:28:58,535
Speaker 6: quite clear. So if for example, it's unsafe or impractical

496
00:28:58,655 --> 00:29:02,055
Speaker 6: or impossible to get underneath the floor, which is the

497
00:29:02,095 --> 00:29:05,255
Speaker 6: case in some houses, then there's no requirement to do it.

498
00:29:09,215 --> 00:29:12,135
Speaker 6: I think if you were to do what let's say

499
00:29:12,135 --> 00:29:14,975
Speaker 6: the house is one hundred square meters, so thousand square foot,

500
00:29:15,895 --> 00:29:18,735
Speaker 6: it would be probably a couple of grand to do

501
00:29:18,815 --> 00:29:21,895
Speaker 6: the underfloor and about the same to do the ceiling.

502
00:29:22,495 --> 00:29:25,295
Speaker 6: What is out there at the moment, which I'm surprised

503
00:29:25,295 --> 00:29:28,535
Speaker 6: is still around, is there are some quite good subsidies

504
00:29:28,655 --> 00:29:32,535
Speaker 6: at the moment. So again, if you just doing an

505
00:29:32,535 --> 00:29:37,255
Speaker 6: Internet search for insulation subsidy or insulation upgrade or something

506
00:29:37,295 --> 00:29:40,415
Speaker 6: like that, undoubtedly you'll strike on this. And I know

507
00:29:41,335 --> 00:29:43,455
Speaker 6: again I was at a function the other day talking

508
00:29:43,495 --> 00:29:48,375
Speaker 6: with a few people and they'd had their house insulated

509
00:29:48,975 --> 00:29:51,295
Speaker 6: and had been able to use the subsidy and it

510
00:29:51,375 --> 00:29:55,295
Speaker 6: was really cheap basically, so not a bad time to

511
00:29:55,295 --> 00:29:58,815
Speaker 6: do it. There's still subsidies out there for retrafftingulation, no

512
00:29:58,855 --> 00:29:59,415
Speaker 6: trouble at all.

513
00:29:59,975 --> 00:30:00,255
Speaker 9: Thank you.

514
00:30:00,335 --> 00:30:02,935
Speaker 6: Actually, that's giving me an idea. Thank you very much, Donna,

515
00:30:03,335 --> 00:30:06,215
Speaker 6: much appreciated. Take care. And I just going back to

516
00:30:06,575 --> 00:30:09,895
Speaker 6: the question about finding a contractor, I reckon that's not

517
00:30:09,935 --> 00:30:11,735
Speaker 6: a bad way of doing it. One is, obviously to

518
00:30:11,815 --> 00:30:14,375
Speaker 6: find work that's been done recently that looks like it's

519
00:30:14,415 --> 00:30:17,775
Speaker 6: been done professionally. The other way of doing it is

520
00:30:18,175 --> 00:30:22,575
Speaker 6: to go to hardware stores or a timber merchant. Maybe

521
00:30:22,575 --> 00:30:25,135
Speaker 6: go down the back if it's a large, big barn

522
00:30:25,175 --> 00:30:28,215
Speaker 6: type store, go down to the trade store, find someone

523
00:30:28,215 --> 00:30:29,855
Speaker 6: who looks like they've worked there for a little while,

524
00:30:29,895 --> 00:30:33,615
Speaker 6: and go, look, I'm looking for a contractor who could

525
00:30:33,615 --> 00:30:35,295
Speaker 6: come and give me a quote for that. And they'll

526
00:30:35,335 --> 00:30:40,335
Speaker 6: know who's good basically, they'll know whose work is tidy,

527
00:30:40,375 --> 00:30:42,895
Speaker 6: they'll know who's work sufficient. They'll know who pays their

528
00:30:42,895 --> 00:30:45,535
Speaker 6: bills on time, which is always a good sign, and

529
00:30:45,775 --> 00:30:48,175
Speaker 6: that might be the best person to get. But yeah,

530
00:30:48,255 --> 00:30:50,055
Speaker 6: my friend's had a bit of a shock when they

531
00:30:50,055 --> 00:30:52,975
Speaker 6: looked at the fence and realized that whoever done the

532
00:30:53,055 --> 00:30:56,255
Speaker 6: work had just kind of randomly set out the post.

533
00:30:56,535 --> 00:30:58,135
Speaker 6: Maybe there was something in the way or a tree

534
00:30:58,175 --> 00:31:00,935
Speaker 6: stump or something like that. But you'd be a little

535
00:31:00,935 --> 00:31:04,295
Speaker 6: bit peeved. I suspect, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

536
00:31:04,335 --> 00:31:06,255
Speaker 6: The lines are open for you. As I mentioned, we've

537
00:31:06,415 --> 00:31:10,495
Speaker 6: got Bryce McDermott, our painting expert from Razine, joining us

538
00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:13,175
Speaker 6: in about an hour's time after eight o'clock, which I

539
00:31:13,175 --> 00:31:15,295
Speaker 6: know is still a wee way away. We're going to

540
00:31:15,335 --> 00:31:18,455
Speaker 6: be talking. Take a deep dive into solar, which we've

541
00:31:18,495 --> 00:31:22,295
Speaker 6: never done to my recollection on the show. So solar panels,

542
00:31:22,295 --> 00:31:25,975
Speaker 6: how do they work? What's the upside, what's the potential downside,

543
00:31:26,415 --> 00:31:28,735
Speaker 6: what's the durability, what's the performance?

544
00:31:28,895 --> 00:31:28,975
Speaker 11: Like?

545
00:31:29,215 --> 00:31:31,295
Speaker 6: Is having a battery a good idea? How do you

546
00:31:31,335 --> 00:31:34,095
Speaker 6: get them installed? All of these things will go through

547
00:31:34,175 --> 00:31:37,775
Speaker 6: in detail with Marlon from Lightful Solar, who'll be joining

548
00:31:37,815 --> 00:31:40,335
Speaker 6: me after eight o'clock this morning. So that's a long

549
00:31:40,375 --> 00:31:42,215
Speaker 6: winded way of saying, now is a really good time

550
00:31:42,215 --> 00:31:44,975
Speaker 6: to call. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

551
00:31:45,015 --> 00:31:51,255
Speaker 6: to call? Lines are open for you right now. Eight

552
00:31:51,375 --> 00:31:56,135
Speaker 6: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call text

553
00:31:56,335 --> 00:32:00,055
Speaker 6: on this whole thing around the insallation. So this is insallation.

554
00:32:00,615 --> 00:32:06,095
Speaker 6: Let's say for healthy Homes standards morning, I have pumped

555
00:32:07,415 --> 00:32:12,655
Speaker 6: mattress like insight oh so like a fiber essentially done

556
00:32:12,695 --> 00:32:15,215
Speaker 6: about twenty years ago in the ceiling for insulation. Do

557
00:32:15,255 --> 00:32:19,095
Speaker 6: I have to replace this to upgrade to current insulation standards?

558
00:32:20,295 --> 00:32:26,055
Speaker 6: Sometimes twenty years ago it might be worth just testing

559
00:32:26,135 --> 00:32:29,535
Speaker 6: it to see what material it is and testing it

560
00:32:29,575 --> 00:32:32,815
Speaker 6: to make sure that there's nothing hazardous in it. If

561
00:32:32,855 --> 00:32:35,655
Speaker 6: it's not hazardous and it's been blown in. What will

562
00:32:35,655 --> 00:32:38,855
Speaker 6: happen over time is it will settle, and as it settles,

563
00:32:39,015 --> 00:32:44,375
Speaker 6: it lose it loses its effectiveness, its performance as an insulator.

564
00:32:45,735 --> 00:32:48,135
Speaker 6: But everything that I've read would suggest that unless you

565
00:32:48,175 --> 00:32:51,175
Speaker 6: really really want to, there's no actual requirement to remove it,

566
00:32:52,175 --> 00:32:54,215
Speaker 6: you're better off leaving it there because it will still

567
00:32:54,255 --> 00:32:57,055
Speaker 6: achieve some are value that you know, maybe when it

568
00:32:57,095 --> 00:33:00,055
Speaker 6: went in it achieved one point eight or something like that.

569
00:33:00,375 --> 00:33:03,615
Speaker 6: Now it's settled a bit, it might achieve one one

570
00:33:03,735 --> 00:33:07,135
Speaker 6: or something similar. So the best thing to do, if

571
00:33:07,135 --> 00:33:10,815
Speaker 6: it's not hazardous, it's not toxic in some way, then

572
00:33:10,895 --> 00:33:14,055
Speaker 6: leave it there and simply lay new insulation over the

573
00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:16,535
Speaker 6: top of it. So you take the benefit that you've

574
00:33:16,535 --> 00:33:19,815
Speaker 6: already got of the existing insulation and add more to

575
00:33:19,855 --> 00:33:24,175
Speaker 6: it to bring it up to standard. Bearing in mind

576
00:33:24,375 --> 00:33:27,175
Speaker 6: that the current standard for the Building Code, if you

577
00:33:27,295 --> 00:33:30,135
Speaker 6: take the what they call a schedule method, so you

578
00:33:30,215 --> 00:33:33,015
Speaker 6: just go to the table in the building Code and

579
00:33:33,055 --> 00:33:35,735
Speaker 6: go right, what's my ceiling insulation. It's got to be

580
00:33:35,975 --> 00:33:40,495
Speaker 6: R six point six. That's the requirement across the country

581
00:33:40,535 --> 00:33:45,495
Speaker 6: for every single ceiling. Personally, professionally, I think that's absurd

582
00:33:46,655 --> 00:33:50,615
Speaker 6: and I can't find anyone who knows anything about building

583
00:33:50,655 --> 00:33:53,495
Speaker 6: science that goes, actually R six point six is a

584
00:33:53,535 --> 00:33:57,815
Speaker 6: real advantage even in colder climbs. Anything above R five

585
00:33:57,975 --> 00:34:02,055
Speaker 6: typically is actually not really adding a great deal more benefit.

586
00:34:03,095 --> 00:34:04,895
Speaker 6: I don't know where they got the R six point

587
00:34:04,895 --> 00:34:07,855
Speaker 6: six from. I know that it freaked out the industry.

588
00:34:07,895 --> 00:34:10,815
Speaker 6: And because basically to get our six point six into

589
00:34:10,815 --> 00:34:13,895
Speaker 6: a ceiling space, you need to have about three hundred

590
00:34:13,935 --> 00:34:16,495
Speaker 6: millimeters of space. And if you think about a traditional

591
00:34:16,895 --> 00:34:20,015
Speaker 6: truss that comes down with a top cord running over

592
00:34:20,055 --> 00:34:22,975
Speaker 6: the top plate, you might only have one hundred millimeters

593
00:34:23,095 --> 00:34:26,535
Speaker 6: of space there, in which case you either have to

594
00:34:26,775 --> 00:34:30,615
Speaker 6: have these funky heel trusses where suddenly you're pushing up

595
00:34:30,655 --> 00:34:33,175
Speaker 6: the top cord much higher to try and get your

596
00:34:33,175 --> 00:34:35,695
Speaker 6: insulation right to the outside, or you do a discount

597
00:34:35,775 --> 00:34:39,935
Speaker 6: for saying, actually, I don't necessarily need three hundred millimeters

598
00:34:39,935 --> 00:34:42,975
Speaker 6: around the perimeter. That can be less, but and then

599
00:34:43,215 --> 00:34:46,375
Speaker 6: it kind of balances out with more insulation in other places.

600
00:34:47,095 --> 00:34:50,055
Speaker 6: But basically the schedule method, they should have just ditched

601
00:34:50,095 --> 00:34:52,535
Speaker 6: this schedule method and said you've either got to do

602
00:34:52,695 --> 00:34:57,375
Speaker 6: calculation or modeling for your thermal performance of a renovation

603
00:34:57,535 --> 00:34:59,815
Speaker 6: or a new build, get rid of the schedule method.

604
00:34:59,855 --> 00:35:02,335
Speaker 6: But that's it's another hobby horse that I like to

605
00:35:02,415 --> 00:35:04,655
Speaker 6: ride from time to time. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

606
00:35:04,775 --> 00:35:06,455
Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call. If you've got a

607
00:35:06,615 --> 00:35:09,175
Speaker 6: question of a building nature, you are more than welcome

608
00:35:09,175 --> 00:35:12,775
Speaker 6: to call. We're talking about insulation, we're talking about finding contractors,

609
00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:15,295
Speaker 6: and in fact that might be something we'll talk about

610
00:35:15,335 --> 00:35:18,575
Speaker 6: a little bit with Bryce, our painting expert, Because, to

611
00:35:18,655 --> 00:35:27,135
Speaker 6: be fair, across the country, contractors, builders, plumbers, electricians, train layers, painters,

612
00:35:27,215 --> 00:35:30,735
Speaker 6: everyone involved in the building trade is not as busy

613
00:35:30,775 --> 00:35:32,575
Speaker 6: as they have been. So if you're in a position

614
00:35:32,615 --> 00:35:34,895
Speaker 6: where you've got a project and you can fund it

615
00:35:35,015 --> 00:35:37,735
Speaker 6: right now, now's not a bad time to be going

616
00:35:37,775 --> 00:35:42,055
Speaker 6: out to the market looking for definitely more competitive prices

617
00:35:42,935 --> 00:35:47,375
Speaker 6: and even margins basically being squeezed. It's not necessarily a

618
00:35:47,415 --> 00:35:50,295
Speaker 6: great situation. But if you're a person that wants to

619
00:35:50,295 --> 00:35:52,975
Speaker 6: get a project done and you looked at doing it

620
00:35:53,015 --> 00:35:54,855
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago and were put off by

621
00:35:55,495 --> 00:35:58,695
Speaker 6: kind of where labor rates were, where margins were, how

622
00:35:58,695 --> 00:36:02,095
Speaker 6: difficult it was to get a contractor. Seriously, now's not

623
00:36:02,135 --> 00:36:04,015
Speaker 6: a bad time to be looking for a contractor a

624
00:36:04,095 --> 00:36:06,135
Speaker 6: couple of quick texts as well. Hey Pete, I've got

625
00:36:06,175 --> 00:36:10,895
Speaker 6: the existing tiled bathroom. I want to retile it. Obviously

626
00:36:11,015 --> 00:36:14,295
Speaker 6: it'll need to be waterproofed in the shower the existing one.

627
00:36:14,415 --> 00:36:19,095
Speaker 6: Does it require a building consent? I would say that

628
00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:23,815
Speaker 6: if it's an existing tiled bathroom and you're not going

629
00:36:23,855 --> 00:36:26,055
Speaker 6: to change the shape of it, it's already got a

630
00:36:26,135 --> 00:36:29,895
Speaker 6: waterproof membrane there, and it's got tiles affixed to the

631
00:36:29,935 --> 00:36:33,695
Speaker 6: floor into the walls for example. Obviously, when you pull

632
00:36:33,695 --> 00:36:36,655
Speaker 6: those tiles off, you're going to damage the existing waterproofing,

633
00:36:37,095 --> 00:36:40,215
Speaker 6: which means that you'll need to either replace the waterproofing

634
00:36:40,295 --> 00:36:46,215
Speaker 6: or go over the waterproofing. I actually wonder whether, given

635
00:36:46,255 --> 00:36:49,615
Speaker 6: that there's already one, let's presume that the work already

636
00:36:49,615 --> 00:36:52,775
Speaker 6: had a building consent, then you could argue that it's

637
00:36:53,015 --> 00:36:59,815
Speaker 6: like for like, and that would that's permissible and to

638
00:36:59,855 --> 00:37:03,175
Speaker 6: schedule one. So I'd say, if it's an existing tiled

639
00:37:04,255 --> 00:37:09,375
Speaker 6: shower and it's got waterproofing there and you take the

640
00:37:09,415 --> 00:37:11,935
Speaker 6: tiles off redo the waterproofing, I don't know that you

641
00:37:11,975 --> 00:37:16,975
Speaker 6: would necessarily require a building consent essentially for maintenance. Oh

642
00:37:17,055 --> 00:37:19,335
Speaker 6: eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. Hey, Sarah,

643
00:37:19,415 --> 00:37:22,615
Speaker 6: good morning, good morning. Now are you I'm very well?

644
00:37:22,655 --> 00:37:24,015
Speaker 6: Thank you? How can I help?

645
00:37:24,815 --> 00:37:25,135
Speaker 11: Please?

646
00:37:25,175 --> 00:37:29,255
Speaker 12: Do you tell me I have tried it scrubbing that

647
00:37:29,455 --> 00:37:33,695
Speaker 12: my cat has been coming in. My cat's been coming

648
00:37:33,735 --> 00:37:37,615
Speaker 12: in my window right, and here's to jump the front.

649
00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:39,215
Speaker 12: Paws fell on the brick wall.

650
00:37:39,375 --> 00:37:44,335
Speaker 9: Yeah, the window still which is bricked, and they're dirty

651
00:37:44,375 --> 00:37:45,935
Speaker 9: footprints on the brick wall.

652
00:37:47,815 --> 00:37:49,855
Speaker 12: Is there in special please.

653
00:37:50,495 --> 00:37:54,215
Speaker 6: Or so essentially it'll be a little bit of dirt

654
00:37:54,415 --> 00:37:59,175
Speaker 6: and someone that's that's accumulated there under the poor prints

655
00:37:59,215 --> 00:38:03,615
Speaker 6: of your cat. I would think that a standard exterior

656
00:38:03,735 --> 00:38:06,255
Speaker 6: house wash like a and there's there's a bunch of

657
00:38:06,455 --> 00:38:10,495
Speaker 6: them on the market, and so you just do a

658
00:38:10,575 --> 00:38:13,615
Speaker 6: pre application of that, so it soak the area with

659
00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:18,175
Speaker 6: house wash and then wash it off. Maybe not even

660
00:38:18,175 --> 00:38:20,575
Speaker 6: with a water blaster. You could just agitate with a

661
00:38:20,575 --> 00:38:24,055
Speaker 6: stiff broom and then rinse off with water and that

662
00:38:24,095 --> 00:38:27,855
Speaker 6: would probably do it. There are like often brick layers

663
00:38:27,895 --> 00:38:32,175
Speaker 6: will use spirit assaults or hydrochloric acid to clean down

664
00:38:32,255 --> 00:38:36,735
Speaker 6: brickwork when they finish, but that's more about removing the cement.

665
00:38:36,815 --> 00:38:39,855
Speaker 6: The semonititious material. So I think in your case, where

666
00:38:39,855 --> 00:38:42,535
Speaker 6: it's just regular build up of grime because that's where

667
00:38:42,535 --> 00:38:44,775
Speaker 6: the cat comes in and out of the house, then

668
00:38:45,095 --> 00:38:49,055
Speaker 6: I would say just a regular exterior house. Wash, agitate

669
00:38:49,175 --> 00:38:54,615
Speaker 6: and rinse. That'll job done, no trouble at all. You

670
00:38:54,655 --> 00:38:58,495
Speaker 6: have a good day, all the best. Then in through

671
00:38:58,495 --> 00:39:00,775
Speaker 6: the window. So obviously you no cat door. I'm thinking

672
00:39:00,815 --> 00:39:02,695
Speaker 6: we've got a cat at home as well. Put a

673
00:39:02,735 --> 00:39:04,935
Speaker 6: cat door in in and out. Well no, actually, a

674
00:39:05,015 --> 00:39:07,855
Speaker 6: cat's decided now that it's much more fun to sit

675
00:39:07,895 --> 00:39:10,535
Speaker 6: on the window sill and looking through the window and

676
00:39:10,615 --> 00:39:14,135
Speaker 6: wait for us to come and open the window, rather

677
00:39:14,175 --> 00:39:17,535
Speaker 6: than wandering another five and a half meters and then

678
00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:21,775
Speaker 6: through the cat flap. Seems to be his latest party trick.

679
00:39:22,895 --> 00:39:25,775
Speaker 6: Morning Peak. I've got a nineteen eighties dwelling with hardy

680
00:39:25,815 --> 00:39:29,455
Speaker 6: plank cladding. The corner soakas are rusting. They've been nailed

681
00:39:29,455 --> 00:39:31,735
Speaker 6: down under the plank above, so we can't remove them.

682
00:39:32,055 --> 00:39:35,975
Speaker 6: What are our options please from Chrissy. What I would

683
00:39:36,055 --> 00:39:41,615
Speaker 6: do is you remove the rusted area, not too aggressively

684
00:39:41,615 --> 00:39:43,335
Speaker 6: because you don't want to go through the soka or

685
00:39:43,375 --> 00:39:46,775
Speaker 6: something like that. You can apply a rust converter which

686
00:39:46,815 --> 00:39:50,495
Speaker 6: will neutralize the rust and then top it with an

687
00:39:50,535 --> 00:39:54,215
Speaker 6: appropriate primer so you can get rust killed. Primers basically

688
00:39:55,495 --> 00:39:59,175
Speaker 6: do that and then overcoat with your top coat thereafter,

689
00:40:00,175 --> 00:40:03,695
Speaker 6: good little task to do actually, and I know getting

690
00:40:03,695 --> 00:40:06,775
Speaker 6: them out is difficult, right he Oh, we're almost seven o'clock.

691
00:40:06,815 --> 00:40:08,695
Speaker 6: We've got news sport and whether we'll come back with

692
00:40:08,735 --> 00:40:10,775
Speaker 6: more of your calls straight after the news. You can

693
00:40:10,775 --> 00:40:26,495
Speaker 6: call us now on eight hundred and eighteen eighty. Your

694
00:40:26,615 --> 00:40:30,615
Speaker 6: up as a little bit of music, why not.

695
00:40:33,775 --> 00:40:35,935
Speaker 2: In the home stretch.

696
00:40:36,895 --> 00:40:38,335
Speaker 3: Of the hard time.

697
00:40:39,735 --> 00:40:46,535
Speaker 2: We took a hard left, but we're all right. Yeah,

698
00:40:47,055 --> 00:40:50,175
Speaker 2: las sure cantra so.

699
00:40:51,655 --> 00:40:57,255
Speaker 3: Love Gooie bird we do this ride is so has

700
00:40:57,295 --> 00:40:59,095
Speaker 3: than's ever gone. Move it when the.

701
00:40:59,175 --> 00:41:03,015
Speaker 4: Bones are good rested on at You're the pink a

702
00:41:03,015 --> 00:41:08,095
Speaker 4: Field classical shadow that a boy does you love me?

703
00:41:13,095 --> 00:41:21,255
Speaker 4: In the Foundation, we water the wild stage, the house

704
00:41:21,335 --> 00:41:25,695
Speaker 4: to fallen the bars.

705
00:41:25,215 --> 00:41:27,775
Speaker 6: Your news talks the b and Pete Wolf camp with

706
00:41:27,855 --> 00:41:30,575
Speaker 6: you this morning. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

707
00:41:30,775 --> 00:41:35,295
Speaker 6: is the number to call quick text Actually, Pete, how

708
00:41:35,295 --> 00:41:40,935
Speaker 6: do kitchen fan exhaust get cleaned? You know someone who

709
00:41:41,055 --> 00:41:44,215
Speaker 6: loves cooking, and obviously if you're cooking particularly certain types

710
00:41:44,255 --> 00:41:46,375
Speaker 6: of food. There might be lots of oils and fats

711
00:41:46,415 --> 00:41:49,295
Speaker 6: and that sort of thing. It's it's not really the fan.

712
00:41:49,535 --> 00:41:53,335
Speaker 6: There's always if you look inside at your extractor, there'll

713
00:41:53,375 --> 00:41:56,335
Speaker 6: be some drop down filters that will come out and

714
00:41:56,375 --> 00:42:00,815
Speaker 6: they can be cleaned. I've typically, when I've got round

715
00:42:00,855 --> 00:42:02,815
Speaker 6: to doing it, and I probably don't do it often enough,

716
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:06,455
Speaker 6: I'll take the filters out. I'll use like a de

717
00:42:06,615 --> 00:42:12,495
Speaker 6: greaser went and forget and worked well for me, and

718
00:42:12,535 --> 00:42:14,695
Speaker 6: then I'll soak them for a period of time. Some

719
00:42:14,735 --> 00:42:17,575
Speaker 6: of them you can put in the dishwasher and use

720
00:42:17,655 --> 00:42:20,655
Speaker 6: the cycle of the dishwasher to clean them out. I

721
00:42:20,735 --> 00:42:23,655
Speaker 6: probably would put them in on their own and then

722
00:42:23,655 --> 00:42:25,615
Speaker 6: put them back in, and it is they are way

723
00:42:25,615 --> 00:42:27,575
Speaker 6: more effective. It doesn't take much to clean them, and

724
00:42:27,575 --> 00:42:30,735
Speaker 6: it's way more effective when you do. Hey. Another quack

725
00:42:30,735 --> 00:42:33,095
Speaker 6: text as well, pete looking for good Tradeye try visiting

726
00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:35,615
Speaker 6: the local RSA great place to find out who's the

727
00:42:35,615 --> 00:42:39,775
Speaker 6: best and how to contact them. Cheers from Phil interesting

728
00:42:39,815 --> 00:42:46,615
Speaker 6: thought to be fair? Why not?

729
00:42:46,975 --> 00:42:47,175
Speaker 7: Hey?

730
00:42:47,775 --> 00:42:50,815
Speaker 6: Another quick text Morning, We've got nineteen eighties Lockwood home.

731
00:42:51,055 --> 00:42:53,535
Speaker 6: On the ceiling in the bathroom, there's a black stain

732
00:42:53,615 --> 00:42:55,935
Speaker 6: from the moisture. Could this be sanded to remove? And

733
00:42:55,975 --> 00:42:59,855
Speaker 6: if so, what would be a good coating paint or polyurathane.

734
00:42:59,855 --> 00:43:01,935
Speaker 6: I tell you what I might hold on to that text,

735
00:43:02,135 --> 00:43:05,095
Speaker 6: because that sounds like the perfect question for Brice McDermott,

736
00:43:05,135 --> 00:43:08,015
Speaker 6: our painting expert, who'll be joining us at around seven

737
00:43:08,135 --> 00:43:10,415
Speaker 6: forty five this morning, so Bryce will be around. If

738
00:43:10,415 --> 00:43:14,335
Speaker 6: you've got any specific painting questions, then text them through

739
00:43:14,375 --> 00:43:17,015
Speaker 6: now and I'll put them to one side and we'll

740
00:43:17,055 --> 00:43:19,855
Speaker 6: see what Bryce has to say about a question like that. Oh,

741
00:43:19,855 --> 00:43:21,975
Speaker 6: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

742
00:43:22,015 --> 00:43:23,455
Speaker 6: Frank A very good morning to you.

743
00:43:24,575 --> 00:43:25,535
Speaker 13: It's good morning, Pete.

744
00:43:25,655 --> 00:43:26,175
Speaker 6: Morning Frank.

745
00:43:26,255 --> 00:43:28,695
Speaker 13: I have a question for you about painting, and I

746
00:43:28,775 --> 00:43:34,215
Speaker 13: also have a thing about the lady that wanted to

747
00:43:34,215 --> 00:43:38,695
Speaker 13: do a bit the fencing. Yeah, no, and okay. In

748
00:43:38,735 --> 00:43:42,775
Speaker 13: one of my flats, which is insulating the top in

749
00:43:42,855 --> 00:43:45,895
Speaker 13: the bottom. I had a phone call the other day

750
00:43:45,895 --> 00:43:49,335
Speaker 13: from the lady that's in there, and she said the

751
00:43:49,375 --> 00:43:53,015
Speaker 13: painting is flaking off the roof in flat in both

752
00:43:53,135 --> 00:43:56,695
Speaker 13: the bedrooms. But it's not flaking in the lounge or

753
00:43:56,735 --> 00:44:01,815
Speaker 13: the kitchen anywhere else. Only in the two bedrooms. And

754
00:44:02,255 --> 00:44:06,935
Speaker 13: I'm wondering if because it's all locked up, something's or what.

755
00:44:08,735 --> 00:44:13,615
Speaker 6: Interesting a place that I look after. And we had

756
00:44:13,655 --> 00:44:19,335
Speaker 6: persistent issues with like it had been relatively recently repainted,

757
00:44:19,455 --> 00:44:21,895
Speaker 6: and yet the paint was starting to peel from the

758
00:44:22,015 --> 00:44:25,255
Speaker 6: ceiling in the bathroom and that ended up being an

759
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:29,135
Speaker 6: issue around. The extractor was okay, but there was insufficient

760
00:44:29,215 --> 00:44:32,495
Speaker 6: airflow into the bathroom it for it to go efficiently.

761
00:44:32,575 --> 00:44:36,215
Speaker 6: So I ended up going in there drying it thoroughly,

762
00:44:36,415 --> 00:44:40,135
Speaker 6: cleaning it really thoroughly, let that dry completely. Then I

763
00:44:40,175 --> 00:44:43,855
Speaker 6: did pigmented Cela, and then I did two top coats

764
00:44:43,855 --> 00:44:47,495
Speaker 6: of a new water born enamel product, and thus far

765
00:44:48,095 --> 00:44:51,135
Speaker 6: I did that probably almost twelve months ago. It's lasted

766
00:44:51,175 --> 00:44:54,255
Speaker 6: quite well, so I think for you and I'll run

767
00:44:54,295 --> 00:44:57,095
Speaker 6: it past Bryce as well. In those bedrooms, it'd be

768
00:44:57,095 --> 00:45:01,215
Speaker 6: interesting to go up and see what condition the insulations in.

769
00:45:01,815 --> 00:45:04,055
Speaker 6: It'd be interesting to know whether there might be a

770
00:45:04,135 --> 00:45:07,095
Speaker 6: slow leak or something like that that's that's making that

771
00:45:07,255 --> 00:45:12,335
Speaker 6: area a little bit damp. And then and then yeah,

772
00:45:12,975 --> 00:45:16,575
Speaker 6: possibly and it may also be And this is one

773
00:45:16,575 --> 00:45:19,255
Speaker 6: of those things. I was looking at a presentation the

774
00:45:19,295 --> 00:45:22,655
Speaker 6: other day just around the need to ventilate our houses.

775
00:45:22,735 --> 00:45:26,415
Speaker 6: That it seems like somewhere along the line, we've kind

776
00:45:26,415 --> 00:45:29,215
Speaker 6: of forgotten what our parents did. Maybe you and I,

777
00:45:29,255 --> 00:45:31,935
Speaker 6: who are slightly older, still remember this. But you know,

778
00:45:32,055 --> 00:45:35,335
Speaker 6: any any opportunity, if the day was halfway decent, you

779
00:45:35,495 --> 00:45:39,135
Speaker 6: just open the windows, open the house up, let fresh

780
00:45:39,175 --> 00:45:42,135
Speaker 6: air into the house, on as many opportunities as you can.

781
00:45:43,215 --> 00:45:46,815
Speaker 6: And seemingly these days people just don't tend to do

782
00:45:46,895 --> 00:45:47,495
Speaker 6: that as much.

783
00:45:48,775 --> 00:45:51,255
Speaker 13: So that if they heat the bedrooms up in the

784
00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:54,495
Speaker 13: cold weather and close up everything.

785
00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:56,135
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look that sensible at night because you

786
00:45:56,175 --> 00:45:57,935
Speaker 6: want to retain the heat. But you know, on a

787
00:45:58,055 --> 00:46:00,655
Speaker 6: on a if you're in Auckland, the last couple of

788
00:46:00,735 --> 00:46:03,895
Speaker 6: days have been beautiful, right, We've had the back doors open,

789
00:46:04,415 --> 00:46:06,655
Speaker 6: just allowing some ventilation, and then as as soon as

790
00:46:06,655 --> 00:46:10,055
Speaker 6: you can feel the temperature change inside the house, you go, okay,

791
00:46:10,135 --> 00:46:11,735
Speaker 6: well now it's time to close it up. I want

792
00:46:11,735 --> 00:46:13,455
Speaker 6: to keep that. I want to retain that heat that

793
00:46:13,495 --> 00:46:17,295
Speaker 6: I've built up during the day, but that that positive

794
00:46:17,295 --> 00:46:21,975
Speaker 6: benefit by having some airflow and some ventilation is huge.

795
00:46:22,255 --> 00:46:24,335
Speaker 6: And the other thing is, look, maybe it's just old

796
00:46:24,375 --> 00:46:26,615
Speaker 6: paint work and it's just reached the end of its life,

797
00:46:26,655 --> 00:46:29,375
Speaker 6: and perhaps the lounge was painted later. It's kind of

798
00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:31,655
Speaker 6: hard to know, but I would check the insulation, I

799
00:46:31,695 --> 00:46:34,575
Speaker 6: would check the ventilation, see how they're using the room,

800
00:46:34,735 --> 00:46:37,935
Speaker 6: and then if you do go and repaint it. I'd

801
00:46:37,935 --> 00:46:41,575
Speaker 6: be really inclined to use a pigmented seiler as you

802
00:46:41,655 --> 00:46:45,215
Speaker 6: first come. Yeah good, can't go wrong.

803
00:46:46,295 --> 00:46:49,055
Speaker 13: At the same flats, I had a fence blow down

804
00:46:49,095 --> 00:46:51,935
Speaker 13: in the storm. Oh yeah, And I looked up and

805
00:46:52,015 --> 00:46:56,455
Speaker 13: I found a ground that under landscaping and fencing and

806
00:46:57,055 --> 00:46:59,215
Speaker 13: they were not that far away from it. So we're

807
00:46:59,255 --> 00:47:04,415
Speaker 13: in you know, Papakura area, And I rang up and

808
00:47:04,455 --> 00:47:07,295
Speaker 13: got the manager there isn't it. It was Board of

809
00:47:07,335 --> 00:47:10,895
Speaker 13: Fencing and he sent a couple of guys out to

810
00:47:10,975 --> 00:47:13,975
Speaker 13: have a look at it. And the next couple of

811
00:47:14,095 --> 00:47:18,255
Speaker 13: days he rang me with a quote and I accepted it.

812
00:47:18,375 --> 00:47:20,775
Speaker 13: He sent them around. They did a fantastic job. But

813
00:47:20,855 --> 00:47:23,655
Speaker 13: the best part of the whole deal was the cost.

814
00:47:23,895 --> 00:47:27,935
Speaker 13: It wasn't over cost, and I heavy shone number if

815
00:47:27,935 --> 00:47:30,735
Speaker 13: the lady would like it. I looked up his card

816
00:47:30,815 --> 00:47:31,695
Speaker 13: that they had given me.

817
00:47:32,095 --> 00:47:33,895
Speaker 6: Yeah, brilliant. I'll tell you what. I'll pass you back

818
00:47:33,935 --> 00:47:38,335
Speaker 6: to Tyler, my producer and tyra rather and if you

819
00:47:38,335 --> 00:47:40,175
Speaker 6: could just leave the number and if that other caller

820
00:47:40,215 --> 00:47:42,975
Speaker 6: wants to call back, if they're in the same roughly

821
00:47:43,015 --> 00:47:46,375
Speaker 6: the same region, that's great because I recommendations like that

822
00:47:46,455 --> 00:47:50,535
Speaker 6: firsthand are the best possible recommendations you can get.

823
00:47:50,575 --> 00:47:54,175
Speaker 13: So that's great, And I'll listen to the painting question

824
00:47:54,255 --> 00:47:58,655
Speaker 13: when a painter comes in. Absolutely, thank you very much.

825
00:47:58,655 --> 00:48:00,975
Speaker 6: My pleasure. Have a great day, Frank, all the very best.

826
00:48:01,495 --> 00:48:04,495
Speaker 6: Take care, Bobby quick texts before the break morning, Pete.

827
00:48:04,535 --> 00:48:08,175
Speaker 6: We've got a twenty year old plus corrogated fiberglass roofing

828
00:48:08,255 --> 00:48:11,655
Speaker 6: on a pergola that we want to replace. Bits of

829
00:48:11,695 --> 00:48:13,935
Speaker 6: the fiberglass appear to be coming out. The role was

830
00:48:13,935 --> 00:48:17,695
Speaker 6: put on in one piece ten meters long. I'm now

831
00:48:17,815 --> 00:48:22,215
Speaker 6: worried that removing it will flick fiberglass shards into the garden.

832
00:48:22,575 --> 00:48:27,255
Speaker 6: How can it be done safely? Sou from Fanngaparur. Typically,

833
00:48:27,495 --> 00:48:31,095
Speaker 6: let's hope that they're fixed in with screws. So essentially

834
00:48:31,255 --> 00:48:34,895
Speaker 6: I would be getting a decent quality ladder, ideally a

835
00:48:34,935 --> 00:48:39,135
Speaker 6: platform ladder, and then work your way in from one end,

836
00:48:39,735 --> 00:48:43,415
Speaker 6: essentially reaching over, undoing the screws, starting to roll the

837
00:48:43,495 --> 00:48:47,775
Speaker 6: sheeting back up and then carry on removing the screws,

838
00:48:47,895 --> 00:48:50,695
Speaker 6: rolling the sheet up, removing screws, rolling the sheet up,

839
00:48:51,135 --> 00:48:53,535
Speaker 6: and possibly once the roll gets to a certain size,

840
00:48:53,535 --> 00:48:55,575
Speaker 6: you might just want to run a sharp knife through

841
00:48:55,615 --> 00:48:58,855
Speaker 6: it and probably just cut straight through it take that down.

842
00:48:59,975 --> 00:49:02,415
Speaker 6: The other thing is, if you are worried about fiberglass

843
00:49:02,455 --> 00:49:06,015
Speaker 6: shards going into the garden, is to put drop sheets

844
00:49:06,175 --> 00:49:09,775
Speaker 6: or mesh down into the garden so that anything that

845
00:49:09,855 --> 00:49:12,855
Speaker 6: does fall outside of the area that you're working in

846
00:49:13,535 --> 00:49:16,455
Speaker 6: you can simply collect that up in a drop sheet

847
00:49:17,295 --> 00:49:19,695
Speaker 6: and then shake that out, collect that up and dispose

848
00:49:19,735 --> 00:49:22,095
Speaker 6: of that as well. And just by the way, that

849
00:49:22,255 --> 00:49:26,655
Speaker 6: sort of roll roofing material is still available now. So

850
00:49:26,735 --> 00:49:29,455
Speaker 6: of course the benefit of it is is that let's

851
00:49:29,455 --> 00:49:33,255
Speaker 6: say you've got a six meter wide veranda, you can

852
00:49:33,295 --> 00:49:35,815
Speaker 6: buy a six meter roll. If it's a ten meter one,

853
00:49:35,895 --> 00:49:38,415
Speaker 6: you can get a ten meter roll. As I understand it,

854
00:49:38,455 --> 00:49:41,855
Speaker 6: I've never installed it myself, but it just means that

855
00:49:41,855 --> 00:49:43,575
Speaker 6: you don't have all those joins, which is actually a

856
00:49:43,575 --> 00:49:46,735
Speaker 6: pretty nifty idea. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

857
00:49:46,775 --> 00:49:49,015
Speaker 6: the number to call if you've got a question of

858
00:49:49,055 --> 00:49:52,455
Speaker 6: a building nature get in now, because to be fair.

859
00:49:53,255 --> 00:49:55,575
Speaker 6: At around seven forty five we're going to be talking painting,

860
00:49:55,655 --> 00:49:58,015
Speaker 6: and after eight o'clock we're going to take a deep

861
00:49:58,095 --> 00:50:01,295
Speaker 6: dive into solar panels. So if you've got a question,

862
00:50:01,935 --> 00:50:03,975
Speaker 6: you should give us a call right now. Oh eight

863
00:50:04,055 --> 00:50:10,215
Speaker 6: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call. I

864
00:50:10,295 --> 00:50:13,855
Speaker 6: made a comment earlier in the program, just around I'd

865
00:50:14,055 --> 00:50:16,015
Speaker 6: spent a couple of days at Building Z, which was

866
00:50:16,055 --> 00:50:21,015
Speaker 6: a kind of real trade focused building exhibition number, and

867
00:50:21,295 --> 00:50:23,495
Speaker 6: they do a number of seminars which was interesting. They

868
00:50:23,535 --> 00:50:26,175
Speaker 6: had a number of people who were like CEOs of

869
00:50:26,255 --> 00:50:30,975
Speaker 6: large building companies like south Base and CMP and who

870
00:50:31,015 --> 00:50:34,295
Speaker 6: else was there one other company as well, talking about

871
00:50:34,375 --> 00:50:36,935
Speaker 6: you know, where the market's at at the moment, and

872
00:50:37,495 --> 00:50:41,855
Speaker 6: the fact that some of those rates that skyrocketed COVID

873
00:50:41,855 --> 00:50:44,655
Speaker 6: and post COVID have started to come down. So I

874
00:50:44,895 --> 00:50:47,335
Speaker 6: made the comment that, hey, look, if you are in

875
00:50:47,375 --> 00:50:50,335
Speaker 6: a position where you can fund a project right now,

876
00:50:50,535 --> 00:50:52,735
Speaker 6: now's not a bad time to be in the market

877
00:50:53,015 --> 00:50:56,775
Speaker 6: looking for pricing and so on. Tony Sex through peak

878
00:50:57,455 --> 00:50:59,695
Speaker 6: as an electrician of nearly forty years, the costs of

879
00:50:59,735 --> 00:51:01,895
Speaker 6: being in business only goes up each year, and now

880
00:51:01,935 --> 00:51:05,735
Speaker 6: I'm getting tire kickers wanting small jobs done cheaply, and

881
00:51:05,815 --> 00:51:08,015
Speaker 6: I expect to work for nothing and give them the

882
00:51:08,135 --> 00:51:10,735
Speaker 6: materials at cost just to get some work at a loss.

883
00:51:11,095 --> 00:51:14,015
Speaker 6: May as well shut up shop, Tony. I agree with you. No,

884
00:51:14,095 --> 00:51:17,135
Speaker 6: you shouldn't be doing jobs at cost, and yes, I

885
00:51:17,175 --> 00:51:20,455
Speaker 6: agree with you. Costs of being in business do seem

886
00:51:20,535 --> 00:51:24,095
Speaker 6: to go up all the time. Compliance costs are going up.

887
00:51:25,175 --> 00:51:27,975
Speaker 6: You know the amount that we know you would have

888
00:51:28,015 --> 00:51:30,375
Speaker 6: paid your GST the other day. All of these sorts

889
00:51:30,375 --> 00:51:34,695
Speaker 6: of things continue, right, So I'm not suggesting that you

890
00:51:34,735 --> 00:51:38,295
Speaker 6: should be doing jobs at below cost, although that happens

891
00:51:38,335 --> 00:51:42,895
Speaker 6: when the market starts to turn effectively, companies are looking

892
00:51:42,935 --> 00:51:46,615
Speaker 6: to just buy work to keep their guys going, to

893
00:51:46,695 --> 00:51:49,295
Speaker 6: keep the doors open. It's not a great situation, and

894
00:51:49,335 --> 00:51:51,735
Speaker 6: it's not surprising that in that environment we get a

895
00:51:51,735 --> 00:51:55,495
Speaker 6: lot of liquidations and we're seeing any number of those

896
00:51:55,535 --> 00:51:58,735
Speaker 6: at the moment. But at the same time, some of

897
00:51:58,775 --> 00:52:03,615
Speaker 6: those crazy rates that were out there again talking to

898
00:52:03,615 --> 00:52:09,455
Speaker 6: a quantity survey who's been on the show, Andy from

899
00:52:09,655 --> 00:52:12,895
Speaker 6: cost Consultants, you know, at one stage square meter rate

900
00:52:12,935 --> 00:52:16,295
Speaker 6: for block work shot up from about four hundred and

901
00:52:16,375 --> 00:52:19,095
Speaker 6: forty bucks a square meter to about eight hundred and

902
00:52:19,095 --> 00:52:21,255
Speaker 6: eighty or eight hundred and sixty dollars a square meter.

903
00:52:21,455 --> 00:52:24,815
Speaker 6: Now that's come back down almost to those you know,

904
00:52:24,935 --> 00:52:28,215
Speaker 6: over time levels. So again that's what I'm talking about,

905
00:52:28,215 --> 00:52:31,095
Speaker 6: that some of those really really high level rates have

906
00:52:31,255 --> 00:52:33,815
Speaker 6: dropped back. One of the guys at the conference on

907
00:52:33,855 --> 00:52:36,375
Speaker 6: the weekend was talking about, you know what you would

908
00:52:36,415 --> 00:52:38,695
Speaker 6: pay typically for structural steel, and they do it on

909
00:52:38,735 --> 00:52:43,295
Speaker 6: a per ton basis, that's dropped considerably, two and a

910
00:52:43,335 --> 00:52:45,935
Speaker 6: half thousand dollars down to about sixteen hundred dollars a

911
00:52:46,055 --> 00:52:49,975
Speaker 6: ton for structural steel. Now, so again I stand by

912
00:52:50,015 --> 00:52:52,375
Speaker 6: my point. Now is not a bad time. And you know,

913
00:52:52,375 --> 00:52:54,375
Speaker 6: if the government was half way smart, now's not a

914
00:52:54,375 --> 00:52:56,775
Speaker 6: bad time to carry on doing some of those building projects.

915
00:52:56,855 --> 00:52:59,575
Speaker 6: All those schools that need work, gets some very sharp

916
00:52:59,575 --> 00:53:01,895
Speaker 6: pricing right now. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

917
00:53:01,935 --> 00:53:02,895
Speaker 6: then I'm going to call Charlie.

918
00:53:02,975 --> 00:53:06,615
Speaker 9: Good morning, Hi, good morning, how are you good?

919
00:53:06,615 --> 00:53:08,015
Speaker 6: Things good?

920
00:53:08,415 --> 00:53:12,735
Speaker 9: I just wanted to ask you a question I've been living.

921
00:53:12,895 --> 00:53:18,215
Speaker 9: I book my little apartment in two thousand and four,

922
00:53:19,255 --> 00:53:24,055
Speaker 9: and I think the building was built in the late seventies.

923
00:53:24,415 --> 00:53:27,535
Speaker 9: What I'm trying to ask is that in my shower

924
00:53:28,375 --> 00:53:32,535
Speaker 9: they had a new head shower put in, but they

925
00:53:32,575 --> 00:53:38,775
Speaker 9: didn't cover the hole in the wall when the shower

926
00:53:38,895 --> 00:53:41,695
Speaker 9: comes out of and I'm just wondering if I'm going

927
00:53:41,735 --> 00:53:42,895
Speaker 9: to get rot in there.

928
00:53:44,215 --> 00:53:47,775
Speaker 6: Certainly, if in the shower area they haven't sealed around

929
00:53:47,775 --> 00:53:54,335
Speaker 6: the penetrations, then I would say, yeah, that's poor workmanship. Basically,

930
00:53:54,895 --> 00:53:58,855
Speaker 6: I mean, you don't want holes and gaps around where

931
00:53:58,935 --> 00:54:02,455
Speaker 6: fittings are changed. Now, if it's around the actual shower rows,

932
00:54:02,895 --> 00:54:05,375
Speaker 6: then you've got the shower rows coming out of the wall,

933
00:54:05,415 --> 00:54:08,935
Speaker 6: and then the head is that, so you're not practically speaking,

934
00:54:08,935 --> 00:54:10,815
Speaker 6: you're not going to get a lot of moisture going

935
00:54:10,855 --> 00:54:14,775
Speaker 6: back right. It's the showers aiming downwards right, So to

936
00:54:14,815 --> 00:54:17,335
Speaker 6: get water to go uphill, you'd have to be splashing

937
00:54:17,335 --> 00:54:19,615
Speaker 6: around in there quite vigorously. I would have thought to

938
00:54:19,615 --> 00:54:21,975
Speaker 6: get it to go uphill, But same thing. It's not

939
00:54:22,015 --> 00:54:25,295
Speaker 6: a great thing. And in a bathroom area, which is

940
00:54:25,415 --> 00:54:30,015
Speaker 6: typically a fairly damp space with a lot of internal moisture,

941
00:54:30,055 --> 00:54:34,495
Speaker 6: you don't want openings that allow moisture to penetrate into

942
00:54:34,535 --> 00:54:36,975
Speaker 6: the building envelope, into the actual inside of the wall.

943
00:54:37,055 --> 00:54:40,575
Speaker 6: So ideally you'd either, and it might be as simple

944
00:54:40,615 --> 00:54:44,655
Speaker 6: as taking the fitting off because there'll be a threaded connection,

945
00:54:45,815 --> 00:54:49,295
Speaker 6: and then putting a flange over there that seals the penetration,

946
00:54:49,655 --> 00:54:53,775
Speaker 6: and then putting the fitting back on. You probably want

947
00:54:53,775 --> 00:54:55,255
Speaker 6: to get a plumber to do that, but that's the

948
00:54:55,295 --> 00:54:57,775
Speaker 6: sort of thing. And then you know, overall, I think

949
00:54:58,255 --> 00:55:03,015
Speaker 6: bathroom's really important that we've got ventilation and extraction into bathrooms.

950
00:55:03,375 --> 00:55:05,575
Speaker 6: And I actually think that having some heat in a

951
00:55:05,615 --> 00:55:10,855
Speaker 6: bathroom just to keep the temperature up helps mold at bay.

952
00:55:10,975 --> 00:55:14,055
Speaker 6: So even the temperature that you get from a heated

953
00:55:14,095 --> 00:55:16,855
Speaker 6: towel rail, I know they can seem like a bit

954
00:55:16,855 --> 00:55:19,215
Speaker 6: of a luxury item, but having a heated towel rail

955
00:55:19,215 --> 00:55:21,495
Speaker 6: in a bathroom just keeps the temperature up, and I

956
00:55:21,535 --> 00:55:23,255
Speaker 6: think that keeps the mold at bay as well.

957
00:55:24,215 --> 00:55:24,935
Speaker 14: I've got issue.

958
00:55:24,935 --> 00:55:26,175
Speaker 9: You got a head to rail?

959
00:55:26,295 --> 00:55:28,375
Speaker 6: Yeah, and do you typically just leave it on or

960
00:55:28,415 --> 00:55:30,215
Speaker 6: do you only use it only?

961
00:55:31,295 --> 00:55:33,655
Speaker 9: I actually turn it on when I put towels on

962
00:55:33,775 --> 00:55:38,655
Speaker 9: meat dry, So that's once every evening, I suppose.

963
00:55:38,855 --> 00:55:41,295
Speaker 6: Yes. I mean, look, I tell you what's what is

964
00:55:41,295 --> 00:55:44,655
Speaker 6: actually quite useful too for heated towel rails, Because you know,

965
00:55:44,815 --> 00:55:46,735
Speaker 6: I'm going to counter what I just said, which is

966
00:55:47,055 --> 00:55:49,415
Speaker 6: they're great to have there because they keep the temperature

967
00:55:49,535 --> 00:55:53,295
Speaker 6: up in the bathroom, but also if it's you're using

968
00:55:53,415 --> 00:55:55,935
Speaker 6: energy when you don't necessarily need it. A lot of them.

969
00:55:55,935 --> 00:55:58,655
Speaker 6: Now you can add a timer to them, so for example,

970
00:55:58,735 --> 00:56:01,215
Speaker 6: it'll turn on let's say five o'clock in the morning

971
00:56:01,255 --> 00:56:03,735
Speaker 6: till eight o'clock, so that if you have a shower

972
00:56:03,735 --> 00:56:05,975
Speaker 6: in the morning, your towels will be nice and warm,

973
00:56:06,095 --> 00:56:07,695
Speaker 6: and then it won't run for the rest of the

974
00:56:07,775 --> 00:56:09,975
Speaker 6: day and you might set it to turn on again

975
00:56:10,895 --> 00:56:13,255
Speaker 6: in the evening, and that that's a much more efficient

976
00:56:13,335 --> 00:56:15,975
Speaker 6: use of it. And these these sorts of timers are

977
00:56:16,015 --> 00:56:19,935
Speaker 6: relatively easy to install. Now your electrician will know about them.

978
00:56:20,375 --> 00:56:20,975
Speaker 9: Fantastic.

979
00:56:21,055 --> 00:56:23,335
Speaker 6: Yeah, no trouble at all. H You have a great day.

980
00:56:23,375 --> 00:56:26,935
Speaker 6: Chae all very best. Take care by you A news talks.

981
00:56:27,215 --> 00:56:29,815
Speaker 6: It is seven twenty six, eight hundred and eighty ten

982
00:56:29,935 --> 00:56:35,575
Speaker 6: eighty is the number to call morning peak. My apartment

983
00:56:35,735 --> 00:56:38,055
Speaker 6: roof space is only about four hundred milimeters deep. I

984
00:56:38,095 --> 00:56:41,095
Speaker 6: want to change my bathroom extractor fan, but in the

985
00:56:41,175 --> 00:56:43,455
Speaker 6: roof space I can only see the tubing, so there's

986
00:56:43,495 --> 00:56:47,175
Speaker 6: no actual fan or motor in sight. Let's assume that

987
00:56:47,215 --> 00:56:52,335
Speaker 6: there is one there. It might be located midway, which

988
00:56:52,375 --> 00:56:55,255
Speaker 6: is not that useful in terms of getting to it

989
00:56:55,415 --> 00:56:57,695
Speaker 6: to upgrade it or to repair it later on. Like

990
00:56:57,735 --> 00:57:00,855
Speaker 6: if it's located, let's say it's a five meter run

991
00:57:00,895 --> 00:57:05,215
Speaker 6: from the intake in the bathroom to the exhaust on

992
00:57:05,295 --> 00:57:07,575
Speaker 6: the exterior of the bill. Let's hope that it does

993
00:57:07,615 --> 00:57:09,855
Speaker 6: exhaust to the exterior of the building. And if you

994
00:57:09,895 --> 00:57:12,735
Speaker 6: do an inline fan and you locate it midway, but

995
00:57:12,775 --> 00:57:15,135
Speaker 6: there's no way of servicing it. I the only way

996
00:57:15,135 --> 00:57:16,775
Speaker 6: to get to it is cut a hole in the ceiling.

997
00:57:17,575 --> 00:57:21,335
Speaker 6: That's not great design. I found. Now with apartments, there's

998
00:57:21,415 --> 00:57:26,415
Speaker 6: a lot more services engineering goes on, so you know, durability, maintenance,

999
00:57:27,415 --> 00:57:31,015
Speaker 6: replacement is all sort of designed in. You might not

1000
00:57:31,095 --> 00:57:33,255
Speaker 6: get that, but that's a real challenge if you if

1001
00:57:33,335 --> 00:57:36,695
Speaker 6: you can't see any motor. I presume that there's a switch,

1002
00:57:36,775 --> 00:57:38,775
Speaker 6: right if you turn the switch on, can you hear something?

1003
00:57:39,415 --> 00:57:41,095
Speaker 6: And if you can hear something, then there's got to

1004
00:57:41,095 --> 00:57:43,535
Speaker 6: be a motor there somewhere, in which case, now it's

1005
00:57:43,535 --> 00:57:47,055
Speaker 6: a question of finding it. And ideally you'd want a

1006
00:57:47,095 --> 00:57:50,775
Speaker 6: minimum of one hundred and fifty miliducting and ideally semi

1007
00:57:50,815 --> 00:57:54,495
Speaker 6: rigid rather than flexible. I think they're more efficient and

1008
00:57:54,975 --> 00:57:57,935
Speaker 6: if it's a longer run, possibly even two fans to

1009
00:57:58,095 --> 00:58:00,775
Speaker 6: ensure that the extraction works well. Oh eight hundred and

1010
00:58:00,815 --> 00:58:02,895
Speaker 6: eighty ten eighty the number to call Brian. A very

1011
00:58:02,895 --> 00:58:07,335
Speaker 6: good morning to you. Good things.

1012
00:58:08,375 --> 00:58:11,135
Speaker 8: Hey, I have talked to you before and have listened

1013
00:58:11,135 --> 00:58:15,495
Speaker 8: through your chats about instlations. So we did have the

1014
00:58:15,575 --> 00:58:18,895
Speaker 8: under floor installation done. We've got obviously up and the

1015
00:58:18,975 --> 00:58:22,295
Speaker 8: roofing area probably still got to do. The moisture brea

1016
00:58:22,775 --> 00:58:24,375
Speaker 8: has still yet to be done, but we've still got

1017
00:58:24,495 --> 00:58:26,815
Speaker 8: quite a bad condensation. We're up here in tor Bay

1018
00:58:26,855 --> 00:58:30,255
Speaker 8: and Auckland and I'm just wondering because we have got

1019
00:58:30,255 --> 00:58:32,375
Speaker 8: a moisture master as well, but it doesn't really seem

1020
00:58:32,415 --> 00:58:34,375
Speaker 8: to be working that well. I'm just we're just thinking

1021
00:58:34,415 --> 00:58:37,895
Speaker 8: about going to either a DVS or HRV is maybe

1022
00:58:37,975 --> 00:58:40,775
Speaker 8: a better solution. Do you have any comments about that?

1023
00:58:40,855 --> 00:58:44,455
Speaker 8: I know you don't typically dismiss products per se, you

1024
00:58:45,575 --> 00:58:48,455
Speaker 8: may have a bit of a bend towards one versus

1025
00:58:48,455 --> 00:58:49,415
Speaker 8: the other type of thing.

1026
00:58:49,935 --> 00:58:52,015
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think again, if you do a little bit

1027
00:58:52,055 --> 00:58:56,295
Speaker 6: of reading, you'll find now that there are. There's actually

1028
00:58:56,335 --> 00:59:01,335
Speaker 6: a whole heap of information now around ventilation systems. And

1029
00:59:01,375 --> 00:59:05,335
Speaker 6: the reason it's become more and more important essentially, and

1030
00:59:05,655 --> 00:59:08,935
Speaker 6: why there's more discussion about them is that increasingly, as

1031
00:59:08,975 --> 00:59:12,895
Speaker 6: we build, we're building much more air tight buildings. Right, So,

1032
00:59:13,495 --> 00:59:16,855
Speaker 6: if you're doing a and this isn't talking about necessarily

1033
00:59:16,935 --> 00:59:19,935
Speaker 6: passive house, where that's the intent of passive houses to

1034
00:59:19,935 --> 00:59:22,335
Speaker 6: make the building air tight and you can do blower

1035
00:59:22,375 --> 00:59:24,375
Speaker 6: door tests on it and those sorts of things. This

1036
00:59:24,535 --> 00:59:28,135
Speaker 6: is just in general if you're building specifically, if you're

1037
00:59:28,175 --> 00:59:31,095
Speaker 6: doing like a rigid air barrier, whether that's a ply

1038
00:59:31,215 --> 00:59:34,215
Speaker 6: word or an OSB board or a fiveber cement sheet

1039
00:59:34,735 --> 00:59:37,135
Speaker 6: or whatever. If you're doing a rigid air barrier, you're

1040
00:59:37,175 --> 00:59:40,375
Speaker 6: taping all the joints, you're putting in decent quality joinery,

1041
00:59:40,615 --> 00:59:43,695
Speaker 6: you're doing an air seal around the perimeter of the joinery.

1042
00:59:44,375 --> 00:59:48,455
Speaker 6: We're making our houses reasonably air tight, still a way

1043
00:59:48,495 --> 00:59:50,695
Speaker 6: to go to be genuinely air tight, but pretty good.

1044
00:59:51,095 --> 00:59:55,695
Speaker 6: And then in those situations there if you're completely reliant

1045
00:59:55,735 --> 00:59:58,935
Speaker 6: just on opening windows for ventilation, then on those times

1046
00:59:58,935 --> 01:00:00,855
Speaker 6: when you don't open the windows, you are going to

1047
01:00:00,895 --> 01:00:06,175
Speaker 6: have problems with internal moisture and so on. So there's

1048
01:00:06,775 --> 01:00:08,735
Speaker 6: that's long way of saying there's a lot of information

1049
01:00:08,815 --> 01:00:10,375
Speaker 6: out there at the moment, and a lot of that

1050
01:00:10,455 --> 01:00:16,695
Speaker 6: focuses on systems that draw fresh air from outside, circulate

1051
01:00:16,695 --> 01:00:20,375
Speaker 6: it through a heat exchanger, and then push it into

1052
01:00:21,015 --> 01:00:24,535
Speaker 6: dry areas of the house, so living rooms, bedrooms, and

1053
01:00:24,575 --> 01:00:28,535
Speaker 6: then the intakes for that system are from what we

1054
01:00:28,695 --> 01:00:32,775
Speaker 6: typically call wet areas or moist areas, so kitchens, bathrooms,

1055
01:00:32,855 --> 01:00:38,455
Speaker 6: laundries and so that way, it's almost like a balanced pressure.

1056
01:00:38,575 --> 01:00:41,735
Speaker 6: So there's air being driven into the house, and then

1057
01:00:41,775 --> 01:00:45,455
Speaker 6: it's being extracted from those areas where we want to

1058
01:00:45,495 --> 01:00:49,335
Speaker 6: remove that moist air, and then it's being expelled to

1059
01:00:49,375 --> 01:00:53,495
Speaker 6: the exterior. So I have an older one of those systems,

1060
01:00:53,535 --> 01:00:55,895
Speaker 6: it's not like that. So I'm drawing air from the

1061
01:00:55,975 --> 01:00:59,015
Speaker 6: roof space and it's essentially being pushed into the house,

1062
01:00:59,095 --> 01:01:02,055
Speaker 6: and then it relies on my house leaking air, which

1063
01:01:02,055 --> 01:01:05,135
Speaker 6: it does because it's a nineteen oh five villa, right,

1064
01:01:05,175 --> 01:01:08,095
Speaker 6: there's gaps and cracks everywhere despite my best efforts to

1065
01:01:08,095 --> 01:01:10,935
Speaker 6: put insulation in. So that system is drawing air from

1066
01:01:10,975 --> 01:01:13,415
Speaker 6: the roof space, pushing it into the house, and then

1067
01:01:13,455 --> 01:01:18,575
Speaker 6: it's basically leaking out. It's not a terribly efficient way

1068
01:01:18,895 --> 01:01:21,695
Speaker 6: of doing it right. It relies on a house leaking air.

1069
01:01:22,535 --> 01:01:26,015
Speaker 6: So again, if we look, if I was in your situation,

1070
01:01:26,095 --> 01:01:28,775
Speaker 6: I was looking at upgrading, I would want something that

1071
01:01:29,335 --> 01:01:33,895
Speaker 6: drew air, fresh air from outside, filtered it, possibly went

1072
01:01:33,935 --> 01:01:37,015
Speaker 6: through a heat exchange, and then extracted it in a

1073
01:01:37,135 --> 01:01:40,175
Speaker 6: very deliberate manner to exterior. Again, that will make a

1074
01:01:40,175 --> 01:01:40,775
Speaker 6: big difference.

1075
01:01:41,655 --> 01:01:43,495
Speaker 8: Okay, so do you want do you want to drop

1076
01:01:43,575 --> 01:01:45,455
Speaker 8: us the name of someone that does that?

1077
01:01:47,015 --> 01:01:51,455
Speaker 6: Look if you want to go top quality. Then I

1078
01:01:51,655 --> 01:01:55,735
Speaker 6: talked to Steeble Oltron, who actually have a showroom in

1079
01:01:55,935 --> 01:01:59,135
Speaker 6: Barry's Point Road. I was talking with Grant, who's one

1080
01:01:59,135 --> 01:02:02,055
Speaker 6: of the owners or works there at Building Z on

1081
01:02:02,095 --> 01:02:06,015
Speaker 6: the weekend or during the week. Rather the other systems,

1082
01:02:06,055 --> 01:02:09,855
Speaker 6: I've noticed they've started to expand the scope of what

1083
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:13,975
Speaker 6: they do to include I guess if I was looking,

1084
01:02:14,135 --> 01:02:17,095
Speaker 6: I would be My criteria would be does it draw

1085
01:02:17,175 --> 01:02:20,815
Speaker 6: fresh air from outside? Does it expel to outside? And

1086
01:02:20,855 --> 01:02:23,695
Speaker 6: I think if it's not doing that, then you're talking

1087
01:02:23,735 --> 01:02:25,975
Speaker 6: about a system that pushes air into your building and

1088
01:02:26,015 --> 01:02:28,455
Speaker 6: relies on the building leaking to get rid of it.

1089
01:02:29,375 --> 01:02:30,895
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, house was built in ninety five.

1090
01:02:31,015 --> 01:02:32,215
Speaker 5: House was built in ninety five.

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01:02:32,295 --> 01:02:33,615
Speaker 8: So what was the name?

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01:02:34,695 --> 01:02:37,655
Speaker 6: Yeah, on Various Point Road in Takapuna, so not too

1093
01:02:37,655 --> 01:02:41,975
Speaker 6: far from you as well. And then Zender is another

1094
01:02:42,015 --> 01:02:44,495
Speaker 6: really top quality system. But you know, it was like

1095
01:02:44,575 --> 01:02:47,535
Speaker 6: I went out to a basically a low carbon house

1096
01:02:47,575 --> 01:02:49,415
Speaker 6: that was built the other day and they had a

1097
01:02:49,535 --> 01:02:55,055
Speaker 6: very very you know, well designed, well installed ventilation system

1098
01:02:55,095 --> 01:02:57,335
Speaker 6: and it was key to the performance of that house

1099
01:02:57,415 --> 01:03:03,335
Speaker 6: given how airtight the house was. Which won't be your house.

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01:03:04,095 --> 01:03:05,255
Speaker 8: So no, that's right.

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01:03:05,335 --> 01:03:10,135
Speaker 6: No, I'm not denigrating your house. I'm just that's and

1102
01:03:10,175 --> 01:03:14,975
Speaker 6: this is where again it's fascinating. If you do a

1103
01:03:15,015 --> 01:03:19,655
Speaker 6: blower door test, which is a device where you essentially

1104
01:03:19,655 --> 01:03:22,175
Speaker 6: close all the doors and windows, seal up things like

1105
01:03:22,255 --> 01:03:26,095
Speaker 6: extractor fans and outlets, and then in the front door

1106
01:03:26,175 --> 01:03:29,655
Speaker 6: or in a door, you install a blower and you

1107
01:03:29,695 --> 01:03:34,135
Speaker 6: push air into the house and you can measure how

1108
01:03:34,215 --> 01:03:37,255
Speaker 6: many air exchanges, so you calculate the volume of the house.

1109
01:03:38,255 --> 01:03:41,415
Speaker 6: It's a cubic meterage, and then you push air into

1110
01:03:41,415 --> 01:03:43,975
Speaker 6: it and you can measure how many air exchanges per

1111
01:03:44,015 --> 01:03:47,935
Speaker 6: hour you might have. And most New Zealand houses might

1112
01:03:48,015 --> 01:03:51,695
Speaker 6: be around nine to ten air exchanges per hour, which

1113
01:03:51,735 --> 01:03:55,095
Speaker 6: means the house is basically just leaking air. A new

1114
01:03:55,135 --> 01:03:59,175
Speaker 6: build done without too much attention to air tightness and

1115
01:03:59,175 --> 01:04:01,775
Speaker 6: all the rest of it might achieve five or six.

1116
01:04:02,775 --> 01:04:05,095
Speaker 6: If you want to focus on air tightness, you might

1117
01:04:05,135 --> 01:04:07,775
Speaker 6: get that down to two or three. And if you're

1118
01:04:07,815 --> 01:04:10,455
Speaker 6: looking for passive, how standard you're at about I think

1119
01:04:10,455 --> 01:04:14,415
Speaker 6: it's about point six or something like that. Yeah, So

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01:04:14,455 --> 01:04:15,935
Speaker 6: it's interesting numbers.

1121
01:04:16,335 --> 01:04:19,815
Speaker 8: Yes, so quick questions and HIV. They don't draw in

1122
01:04:19,855 --> 01:04:21,135
Speaker 8: fresh air and expel them out.

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01:04:21,815 --> 01:04:24,615
Speaker 6: Some of some of these systems do so.

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01:04:25,335 --> 01:04:29,415
Speaker 8: Again, if because we're not because we're not looking for

1125
01:04:29,495 --> 01:04:31,295
Speaker 8: top of the line, we're just looking for something that's

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01:04:31,335 --> 01:04:33,575
Speaker 8: a general price, a good system.

1127
01:04:33,695 --> 01:04:37,535
Speaker 6: And to be fair, anything is better than nothing. Right,

1128
01:04:39,215 --> 01:04:42,175
Speaker 6: let's start there. Let's be practicing anything's better than nothing.

1129
01:04:42,215 --> 01:04:46,055
Speaker 6: But ideally, and like I say, I think both of

1130
01:04:46,055 --> 01:04:49,215
Speaker 6: those companies have moved to systems now where they're drawing

1131
01:04:49,255 --> 01:04:52,175
Speaker 6: from outside and pushing it to outside, and that's really

1132
01:04:52,215 --> 01:04:52,935
Speaker 6: really important.

1133
01:04:53,815 --> 01:04:57,295
Speaker 8: Yeah, and they reasonably cost effective to run doing the

1134
01:04:57,295 --> 01:05:00,935
Speaker 8: heat exchange of things. I thought they were quite they

1135
01:05:01,015 --> 01:05:04,975
Speaker 8: could they could lift your electricity price up reasonably well.

1136
01:05:05,015 --> 01:05:08,415
Speaker 6: The idea of the heat exchange is that it extracts

1137
01:05:08,415 --> 01:05:12,255
Speaker 6: heat from the warm air that's being expelled from the house, right,

1138
01:05:12,455 --> 01:05:19,935
Speaker 6: So some of those systems add heating elements to the ducting. Again,

1139
01:05:20,375 --> 01:05:24,495
Speaker 6: unless the ducting itself is insulated, then you're actually if

1140
01:05:24,535 --> 01:05:27,455
Speaker 6: you're adding heat at one point and it's traveling along

1141
01:05:27,495 --> 01:05:31,015
Speaker 6: a standard piece of flexible ducting and coming out five

1142
01:05:31,095 --> 01:05:34,255
Speaker 6: meters away, and that ducting is uninsulated, I suspect that

1143
01:05:34,335 --> 01:05:37,415
Speaker 6: most of the heat that you've generated will be lost

1144
01:05:37,495 --> 01:05:40,855
Speaker 6: by the time it gets to the outlet. So again,

1145
01:05:41,615 --> 01:05:44,015
Speaker 6: if they are saying it's got a heating element to it,

1146
01:05:44,215 --> 01:05:46,095
Speaker 6: you'd expect to see insulated ducting.

1147
01:05:47,175 --> 01:05:50,775
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, all right, probably.

1148
01:05:50,455 --> 01:05:54,935
Speaker 6: More questions than answers, but I again, oh, drawing from

1149
01:05:54,975 --> 01:05:58,255
Speaker 6: outside expelling to outside, that would be my minimum.

1150
01:05:58,615 --> 01:06:00,855
Speaker 8: Yep, great stuff, an.

1151
01:06:01,135 --> 01:06:03,695
Speaker 6: All the best, Take care B. You a new stork,

1152
01:06:03,735 --> 01:06:05,735
Speaker 6: se B do we Yeah, we should take a break.

1153
01:06:05,735 --> 01:06:08,615
Speaker 6: We'll take a brain Remember we've got Bryce, our painting expert,

1154
01:06:08,655 --> 01:06:11,855
Speaker 6: will be joining us at around seven forty five. We'll

1155
01:06:11,975 --> 01:06:15,015
Speaker 6: chat all things painting right up to eight o'clock and

1156
01:06:15,055 --> 01:06:18,975
Speaker 6: then after eight o'clock. Marlon from Lightfoce Solar is actually

1157
01:06:18,975 --> 01:06:21,535
Speaker 6: going to join me here in the studio. We're going

1158
01:06:21,575 --> 01:06:23,895
Speaker 6: to be talking Solar, but more than happy to take

1159
01:06:23,975 --> 01:06:33,975
Speaker 6: your questions about Sola. If you've got a question about panels, cleaning, durability, maintenance, longevity, performance,

1160
01:06:34,175 --> 01:06:35,935
Speaker 6: that sort of thing, feel free to text them through

1161
01:06:36,015 --> 01:06:39,975
Speaker 6: nine to nine two back after the break your news talks.

1162
01:06:39,975 --> 01:06:42,535
Speaker 6: The'd be Bryce coming up after the break, but right

1163
01:06:42,615 --> 01:06:44,615
Speaker 6: now we're taking your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

1164
01:06:44,735 --> 01:06:47,415
Speaker 6: ten eighty is the number to call, Actually just quick

1165
01:06:47,455 --> 01:06:49,575
Speaker 6: text that's just popped in. Is there a rule of

1166
01:06:49,575 --> 01:06:53,615
Speaker 6: thumb for the ratio of the number of guttering ie

1167
01:06:53,655 --> 01:06:56,135
Speaker 6: downpipes for the roof size? Yes there is, but you're

1168
01:06:56,495 --> 01:06:58,415
Speaker 6: off the top of my head. I think it's about

1169
01:06:59,135 --> 01:07:02,415
Speaker 6: sixty square meters, but I just go and check on

1170
01:07:02,455 --> 01:07:05,095
Speaker 6: the building code. But yes, there is a guidance there

1171
01:07:05,535 --> 01:07:07,775
Speaker 6: as to the side of the down pipes for the

1172
01:07:07,815 --> 01:07:11,215
Speaker 6: catchment area and the number of down pipes as well.

1173
01:07:11,495 --> 01:07:13,215
Speaker 6: Owen a very good morning to you.

1174
01:07:14,175 --> 01:07:17,495
Speaker 5: Oh, good morning, paint morning. I just wanted to ask.

1175
01:07:18,735 --> 01:07:23,815
Speaker 5: I've got a painted long run roof and in one

1176
01:07:23,895 --> 01:07:28,415
Speaker 5: section particularly, the nails are sort of loosening off it.

1177
01:07:28,455 --> 01:07:31,015
Speaker 5: You can bang them back down and to loosen back

1178
01:07:31,055 --> 01:07:35,735
Speaker 5: off again. I'm told the danger is if I try

1179
01:07:35,775 --> 01:07:38,255
Speaker 5: and put them out, you know, putting a bar under there.

1180
01:07:38,295 --> 01:07:41,295
Speaker 5: I can leave a dent there, which just accentuates issues

1181
01:07:41,335 --> 01:07:44,615
Speaker 5: if as far as you know, maybe water getting in

1182
01:07:45,255 --> 01:07:49,415
Speaker 5: and so sort of a double question one is is

1183
01:07:49,415 --> 01:07:52,655
Speaker 5: there a way I can get those out without damaging

1184
01:07:52,695 --> 01:07:57,655
Speaker 5: out and even replace them with screws or bigger nails

1185
01:07:57,735 --> 01:08:00,455
Speaker 5: or whatever. And the other one is which paint if

1186
01:08:00,455 --> 01:08:03,815
Speaker 5: they're starting to just deteriorate it, but you know, not

1187
01:08:04,495 --> 01:08:06,855
Speaker 5: correate a little bit of just around in the hles,

1188
01:08:06,895 --> 01:08:07,575
Speaker 5: but the rest.

1189
01:08:07,375 --> 01:08:09,415
Speaker 6: Of the roof is actually reasonable.

1190
01:08:09,495 --> 01:08:12,335
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I could just repaint that.

1191
01:08:12,775 --> 01:08:17,175
Speaker 6: Yeah, is it corrugated iron? It's that profile or is

1192
01:08:17,175 --> 01:08:18,215
Speaker 6: it a different profile.

1193
01:08:18,655 --> 01:08:21,055
Speaker 5: It's sort of a long run sort of a profile

1194
01:08:21,135 --> 01:08:22,175
Speaker 5: on it rather than a.

1195
01:08:22,055 --> 01:08:24,855
Speaker 6: Wavy Okay, all right, yep, I.

1196
01:08:24,855 --> 01:08:26,975
Speaker 5: Thought it was color steel, but someone took a lock

1197
01:08:27,015 --> 01:08:29,855
Speaker 5: it and goes no paint.

1198
01:08:30,415 --> 01:08:33,135
Speaker 6: That's all right. Yeah. Look, the key to it is

1199
01:08:33,775 --> 01:08:37,495
Speaker 6: having like obviously there's pearlins that run. The pearlins are

1200
01:08:37,535 --> 01:08:39,735
Speaker 6: underneath the iron, right, and that's where the nails are

1201
01:08:39,735 --> 01:08:41,975
Speaker 6: fixed down into. So what you want to do is

1202
01:08:42,015 --> 01:08:44,895
Speaker 6: put a block into that trough next to where the

1203
01:08:44,975 --> 01:08:48,695
Speaker 6: nail is and then get either a crowbar or a

1204
01:08:48,695 --> 01:08:50,935
Speaker 6: lot of roofing guys use two hammers, so you use

1205
01:08:50,975 --> 01:08:53,735
Speaker 6: one hammer with the claw to get underneath the nail head,

1206
01:08:54,055 --> 01:08:56,415
Speaker 6: and then you hit the face of that hammer with

1207
01:08:56,455 --> 01:08:58,775
Speaker 6: the other hammer to drive it in right. So rather

1208
01:08:58,775 --> 01:09:01,535
Speaker 6: than try and strike the hammer and get it spot

1209
01:09:01,575 --> 01:09:04,135
Speaker 6: on and get underneath the nail, you just put the

1210
01:09:04,175 --> 01:09:08,455
Speaker 6: forks either side or either side, tap it in, and

1211
01:09:08,495 --> 01:09:12,135
Speaker 6: then leave it onto a block, right, and that should

1212
01:09:12,175 --> 01:09:15,335
Speaker 6: stop any damage. The other really nifty tool that I've

1213
01:09:15,375 --> 01:09:17,935
Speaker 6: seen that a guy made was a set of vice

1214
01:09:17,935 --> 01:09:21,215
Speaker 6: scripts welded to a slide hammer, you know, like a

1215
01:09:21,335 --> 01:09:22,415
Speaker 6: what panel Beyters used.

1216
01:09:22,975 --> 01:09:26,215
Speaker 5: In the back of my mind, yeah, and I've.

1217
01:09:26,135 --> 01:09:28,535
Speaker 6: Seen a guy use one, and I thought that's a

1218
01:09:28,695 --> 01:09:31,295
Speaker 6: piece of genius. He obviously was able to do a

1219
01:09:31,335 --> 01:09:33,455
Speaker 6: little bit of welding, so he got this vice script

1220
01:09:33,535 --> 01:09:37,695
Speaker 6: welded it to the sliding part or the shaft of

1221
01:09:37,735 --> 01:09:40,855
Speaker 6: a slide hammer, and then he could fasten the vice

1222
01:09:40,855 --> 01:09:43,535
Speaker 6: script onto the head and then just slide the weight

1223
01:09:43,575 --> 01:09:47,095
Speaker 6: along the shaft and bang pull the nail straight up.

1224
01:09:47,255 --> 01:09:49,695
Speaker 6: So The whole point of trying to get the nail

1225
01:09:49,695 --> 01:09:51,575
Speaker 6: out as straight as possible is you don't want to

1226
01:09:51,615 --> 01:09:54,295
Speaker 6: increase the size of the hole, right, So if you

1227
01:09:54,535 --> 01:09:58,655
Speaker 6: are tearing and levering at the nail rather than lifting

1228
01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:00,855
Speaker 6: it straight up, if you're pulling it sideways or up

1229
01:10:00,935 --> 01:10:04,455
Speaker 6: and down, what you'll do is you'll tear the hole

1230
01:10:04,495 --> 01:10:06,175
Speaker 6: that's already through there, and then when you go and

1231
01:10:06,335 --> 01:10:10,055
Speaker 6: a replacement in, you'll find that it won't cover all

1232
01:10:10,055 --> 01:10:14,455
Speaker 6: of the gap. So yeah, and then look, I did

1233
01:10:14,455 --> 01:10:16,455
Speaker 6: it on a little job not that long ago. I

1234
01:10:16,455 --> 01:10:18,495
Speaker 6: pulled out a whole bunch of nails. I used a

1235
01:10:18,495 --> 01:10:21,815
Speaker 6: block and a crowbar and a hammer to get the

1236
01:10:21,895 --> 01:10:24,575
Speaker 6: nails out, pulled them straight up, replaced them with a

1237
01:10:24,695 --> 01:10:27,415
Speaker 6: roofing screw that was a little bit longer and the

1238
01:10:27,735 --> 01:10:30,935
Speaker 6: slightly wider diameter, And so you could tell that you've

1239
01:10:30,935 --> 01:10:36,375
Speaker 6: got good purchase into the perlin. And then around the

1240
01:10:36,375 --> 01:10:38,815
Speaker 6: there you can just use some rust cool paint and

1241
01:10:38,855 --> 01:10:40,775
Speaker 6: then do a roofing paint over the top.

1242
01:10:42,495 --> 01:10:49,895
Speaker 5: Ye cool paint. And then the only that's welding a

1243
01:10:49,895 --> 01:10:53,415
Speaker 5: pair of vice grips onto a slide hammer. That's probably

1244
01:10:53,455 --> 01:10:57,095
Speaker 5: about the only saying that my welding would be certified.

1245
01:10:57,935 --> 01:11:01,375
Speaker 5: You can want to hang off the green canyon on it.

1246
01:11:01,535 --> 01:11:03,855
Speaker 6: Your welding sounds a little bit like mine. And given

1247
01:11:03,895 --> 01:11:06,215
Speaker 6: that my dad was a welder, he would be horrified

1248
01:11:06,415 --> 01:11:08,175
Speaker 6: see the state of some of the welding that I do.

1249
01:11:08,855 --> 01:11:10,855
Speaker 6: I should have spent more time in the factory with

1250
01:11:10,935 --> 01:11:12,735
Speaker 6: him back in the day. A nice of you to

1251
01:11:12,775 --> 01:11:16,255
Speaker 6: call all the best take care of I'm just looking

1252
01:11:16,335 --> 01:11:20,535
Speaker 6: at some dramatic pitches out of Germany at the moment. Obviously,

1253
01:11:20,615 --> 01:11:25,215
Speaker 6: Euro the UAFA Euro twenty twenty four games are on,

1254
01:11:25,295 --> 01:11:28,895
Speaker 6: so Germany is playing Denmark. The match has been suspended

1255
01:11:28,975 --> 01:11:32,695
Speaker 6: due to the weather and there is literally golf size

1256
01:11:32,935 --> 01:11:37,255
Speaker 6: golf ball size hail crashing down onto the pitch, so

1257
01:11:37,335 --> 01:11:39,655
Speaker 6: the fans are desperately trying to stay dry, but the

1258
01:11:39,655 --> 01:11:43,295
Speaker 6: players have actually been removed from the pitch such as

1259
01:11:43,415 --> 01:11:49,335
Speaker 6: the weather. I guess it'll wow. There's some dramatic pictures anyway,

1260
01:11:49,535 --> 01:11:52,375
Speaker 6: Love and the football. I got to say, it's a

1261
01:11:52,615 --> 01:11:54,575
Speaker 6: bad excuse to stay up when you wake at four

1262
01:11:54,575 --> 01:11:58,055
Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning and just watch football. I even

1263
01:11:58,055 --> 01:12:00,615
Speaker 6: went and bought myself a brand new flag. My old

1264
01:12:00,655 --> 01:12:04,215
Speaker 6: Dutch flag was as well worn and maybe just a

1265
01:12:04,255 --> 01:12:06,375
Speaker 6: little bit small. So I've gone out and brought a

1266
01:12:06,655 --> 01:12:09,735
Speaker 6: significantly bigger Dutch flag that I can fly when the

1267
01:12:09,775 --> 01:12:11,815
Speaker 6: Dutch team are playing. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten.

1268
01:12:11,935 --> 01:12:15,055
Speaker 6: I know, Actually no more calls right now, text messages

1269
01:12:15,455 --> 01:12:18,415
Speaker 6: questions for Bryce. We will be talking to Bryce after

1270
01:12:18,455 --> 01:12:23,455
Speaker 6: the break news talks'd be and our painting expert Bryce

1271
01:12:23,535 --> 01:12:26,495
Speaker 6: McDermott joins us bright nearly, good morning and lovely to

1272
01:12:26,535 --> 01:12:31,495
Speaker 6: bump into you the other day building z Ed. Okay, Bryce,

1273
01:12:32,015 --> 01:12:34,575
Speaker 6: there we go? Sorry, mate, there we go? Got you now? Hey,

1274
01:12:34,895 --> 01:12:40,695
Speaker 6: nice pumping into you at Buildiing z Ed. Hello. Ah,

1275
01:12:41,215 --> 01:12:43,015
Speaker 6: now hang on, I'll tell you what. Just stay on

1276
01:12:43,095 --> 01:12:45,215
Speaker 6: the line. I might just get rid of that and

1277
01:12:45,215 --> 01:12:47,175
Speaker 6: we'll do it that way. Bryce, have we got there?

1278
01:12:47,175 --> 01:12:47,415
Speaker 11: We go?

1279
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Speaker 6: Got you now? Sorry mate, I'm for some reason with

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01:12:50,535 --> 01:12:54,895
Speaker 6: conference I couldn't bring you up there. He really nice

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01:12:54,895 --> 01:12:56,855
Speaker 6: to catch up with you at Builldiing z Ed And

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01:12:56,975 --> 01:13:00,655
Speaker 6: I know the razine stand was there? Great location, smack

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01:13:00,695 --> 01:13:03,655
Speaker 6: bang on the corner. There lots of people to chat to.

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01:13:04,815 --> 01:13:08,655
Speaker 11: Yeah, and squarely into people wandering around with crauisine umbrellas.

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01:13:12,535 --> 01:13:14,775
Speaker 6: Fair. I had a couple of people come up to

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01:13:14,815 --> 01:13:17,375
Speaker 6: me and go, I hear these umbrellas. Where do I

1287
01:13:17,415 --> 01:13:18,375
Speaker 6: go to the umbrellas?

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01:13:19,695 --> 01:13:20,855
Speaker 11: Umbrellas are so popular?

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01:13:20,975 --> 01:13:22,895
Speaker 6: Go around see when mat bryce He'll give you one,

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01:13:22,935 --> 01:13:28,055
Speaker 6: No problem at all. Oh, how brilliant. I just hit

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01:13:28,135 --> 01:13:31,015
Speaker 6: of our questions today and we've got a bunch of

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01:13:31,015 --> 01:13:36,055
Speaker 6: them to look at. I mentioned earlier about you know,

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01:13:36,375 --> 01:13:39,095
Speaker 6: getting trades people perhaps to come and do work now,

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01:13:39,295 --> 01:13:43,375
Speaker 6: because look, to be fair, things are not always that busy.

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01:13:43,495 --> 01:13:46,215
Speaker 6: Now is not a bad telling to find trades people.

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01:13:46,295 --> 01:13:47,535
Speaker 6: Is that kind of your experience.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean there's there's plenty of work that can

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01:13:52,575 --> 01:13:54,615
Speaker 11: be done, and you know, at this time of the year,

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01:13:54,615 --> 01:13:57,855
Speaker 11: even though it's cold and horrible as interiors just begging

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01:13:57,855 --> 01:14:02,175
Speaker 11: to be done, and a little bit of planning and

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01:14:02,175 --> 01:14:05,935
Speaker 11: stuff like that. You know, you can also booking something

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01:14:06,055 --> 01:14:09,135
Speaker 11: for later in the year, which normally is a very

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01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:14,295
Speaker 11: busy time. Everybody decided, right, something done anyway, So call

1304
01:14:14,375 --> 01:14:16,255
Speaker 11: the local trade goes and just get them going.

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01:14:18,175 --> 01:14:20,255
Speaker 6: Yeah, now's a good time to get into it. And

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01:14:20,335 --> 01:14:22,575
Speaker 6: here we go. Here's the first one. I've stripped down

1307
01:14:23,215 --> 01:14:27,815
Speaker 6: window sills back to timber, sanded undercoat and repainted. But

1308
01:14:27,975 --> 01:14:32,655
Speaker 6: by next year they've started flaking off and require redoing

1309
01:14:32,735 --> 01:14:36,135
Speaker 6: any suggestion. So someone sounds like they've done everything right,

1310
01:14:36,215 --> 01:14:37,935
Speaker 6: but obviously something's not working.

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01:14:39,615 --> 01:14:43,615
Speaker 11: It depends what the timber is. Perhaps if it's a

1312
01:14:43,735 --> 01:14:48,295
Speaker 11: native timber like coat matt I something like that, or

1313
01:14:49,255 --> 01:14:52,655
Speaker 11: maybe they've used an oil based undercoat, which doesn't generally

1314
01:14:52,655 --> 01:14:56,615
Speaker 11: work on that sort of timber. You'd probably be better off

1315
01:14:56,735 --> 01:15:00,175
Speaker 11: using a correct undercoat. But I'm just guessing at the moment.

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01:15:00,575 --> 01:15:05,895
Speaker 6: Yeah, actually similar, and I know that it's it's kind

1317
01:15:05,935 --> 01:15:08,575
Speaker 6: of count intuitive, isn't it. Like I'm a little bit

1318
01:15:08,575 --> 01:15:11,615
Speaker 6: old fashioned, and I would typically like to use an

1319
01:15:11,615 --> 01:15:15,695
Speaker 6: oil based primer if I've got beer timber, especially outside,

1320
01:15:16,575 --> 01:15:19,015
Speaker 6: and yet for some types of native timber matt I

1321
01:15:19,095 --> 01:15:23,535
Speaker 6: in particular, it doesn't respond well. It just doesn't work.

1322
01:15:23,575 --> 01:15:25,415
Speaker 6: So in that case you've got to go for a

1323
01:15:25,655 --> 01:15:29,175
Speaker 6: waterborne primer. Yeah.

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01:15:30,055 --> 01:15:32,935
Speaker 11: So I mean, yeah, you can put the waterbe primer on,

1325
01:15:33,055 --> 01:15:36,015
Speaker 11: but if you still, you know, really think that you

1326
01:15:36,015 --> 01:15:37,895
Speaker 11: should have an oil based one over the top, you

1327
01:15:37,935 --> 01:15:39,935
Speaker 11: can put one over the top of the acrylic inndicate.

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01:15:40,015 --> 01:15:42,775
Speaker 6: You just need that layer, right, So that first layer

1329
01:15:42,855 --> 01:15:45,175
Speaker 6: might have to be waterborne, and then the top layer

1330
01:15:45,215 --> 01:15:51,135
Speaker 6: you could then overcoat that with an oil based Yep, okay, awesome,

1331
01:15:51,695 --> 01:15:54,895
Speaker 6: similar conversation or similar text message. We've just stripped one

1332
01:15:54,975 --> 01:15:57,975
Speaker 6: hundred and ten year old curry villa back down to beer.

1333
01:15:58,015 --> 01:16:01,695
Speaker 6: Would timber is an excellent condition? Would you use an

1334
01:16:01,735 --> 01:16:05,575
Speaker 6: oil based undercoat or is the razine quick dry the

1335
01:16:05,575 --> 01:16:06,975
Speaker 6: best undercoat to use there?

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01:16:08,055 --> 01:16:09,975
Speaker 11: I would go for a quick dry in same sort

1337
01:16:09,975 --> 01:16:16,095
Speaker 11: of confect Yeah. There is a product of ours called

1338
01:16:16,615 --> 01:16:19,735
Speaker 11: timber lock as well, which you could use on stripped

1339
01:16:20,135 --> 01:16:23,415
Speaker 11: you know, fairly old timber, which is you know, it's

1340
01:16:23,415 --> 01:16:26,255
Speaker 11: an oil based product, but it's basically a polyester resin,

1341
01:16:26,335 --> 01:16:28,455
Speaker 11: but it helps bind up the timber fibers. You could

1342
01:16:28,535 --> 01:16:30,415
Speaker 11: use that and then put the quick dry over the

1343
01:16:30,415 --> 01:16:34,935
Speaker 11: top of that. It's just a very very thin timber

1344
01:16:35,615 --> 01:16:40,255
Speaker 11: preserve conditioner type thing. So yeah, you could consider that,

1345
01:16:40,335 --> 01:16:42,495
Speaker 11: but if it's a really good condition, then the quick

1346
01:16:42,575 --> 01:16:44,775
Speaker 11: dry would be absolutely fine.

1347
01:16:45,695 --> 01:16:49,735
Speaker 6: Ah. Interesting, Okay, So you would go from beer, you know,

1348
01:16:49,815 --> 01:16:52,535
Speaker 6: like and I've done the same thing stripped back the

1349
01:16:52,575 --> 01:16:55,455
Speaker 6: house back to beer timber. You'd go in a water

1350
01:16:55,535 --> 01:17:00,175
Speaker 6: borne as a primer, and then possibly then go for

1351
01:17:00,215 --> 01:17:02,335
Speaker 6: an oil base over the top and then swap back

1352
01:17:02,375 --> 01:17:07,175
Speaker 6: to or no, the tell me more about the timberlock

1353
01:17:07,215 --> 01:17:11,295
Speaker 6: because it's I'm not terribly familiar with it.

1354
01:17:11,295 --> 01:17:16,935
Speaker 11: It's a very thin, watery substance, especially good for old cedar,

1355
01:17:17,095 --> 01:17:23,015
Speaker 11: which right my house was it still is, and it

1356
01:17:23,135 --> 01:17:25,735
Speaker 11: just just binds up the timber fibers and gives you

1357
01:17:25,775 --> 01:17:29,175
Speaker 11: a good surface for painting. It sounds like a bit

1358
01:17:29,175 --> 01:17:32,095
Speaker 11: of a misnomer. Don't use oil based on dating timbers.

1359
01:17:32,175 --> 01:17:32,895
Speaker 6: Yeah like that.

1360
01:17:33,375 --> 01:17:38,055
Speaker 11: But again, if the timber is in really good sound condition,

1361
01:17:38,175 --> 01:17:41,495
Speaker 11: then you probably don't need it, right, It's just another

1362
01:17:42,295 --> 01:17:45,215
Speaker 11: thing that you know, you can consider it to use.

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01:17:46,455 --> 01:17:49,935
Speaker 6: Brilliant. Now, someone who wants I want to repaint my

1364
01:17:49,975 --> 01:17:53,895
Speaker 6: brick house fair enough, I've got some left over paving paint.

1365
01:17:54,015 --> 01:17:57,975
Speaker 6: Can I use this? Thanks for your professional advice. I'll

1366
01:17:58,015 --> 01:17:58,895
Speaker 6: leave that one to you.

1367
01:17:59,975 --> 01:18:03,935
Speaker 11: Uh, depends on sort of saving paint. If it's an

1368
01:18:03,935 --> 01:18:07,495
Speaker 11: old oil based saving paint, I would probably just use

1369
01:18:07,535 --> 01:18:09,335
Speaker 11: it for the purpose that it was intended.

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01:18:09,615 --> 01:18:14,055
Speaker 6: Right, That's a very diplomatic way of putting it. But

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01:18:14,095 --> 01:18:16,495
Speaker 6: if you did want to paint brick, so it's bear

1372
01:18:16,695 --> 01:18:20,255
Speaker 6: exposed brick and you want to do you know, funky

1373
01:18:20,295 --> 01:18:22,775
Speaker 6: the house up, make it a bit more modern. So

1374
01:18:22,855 --> 01:18:27,295
Speaker 6: if you're painting bear unpainted brick, where do you start.

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01:18:28,375 --> 01:18:34,335
Speaker 11: Well, if it's not glazed brick, then by giving it

1376
01:18:34,375 --> 01:18:36,495
Speaker 11: a good moss and mold treatment and just to get

1377
01:18:36,535 --> 01:18:40,055
Speaker 11: all the moss and liking and stuff out of the

1378
01:18:40,055 --> 01:18:42,655
Speaker 11: ears of the pointing and things like that. Give it

1379
01:18:42,695 --> 01:18:46,375
Speaker 11: a good water blasting after that, and then I would

1380
01:18:46,415 --> 01:18:47,735
Speaker 11: go for the good old sure seal.

1381
01:18:48,895 --> 01:18:52,735
Speaker 6: Okay, So sure seal is your first coat, yeah, yep.

1382
01:18:52,575 --> 01:18:55,815
Speaker 11: And then a couple of coats of Well, there's a

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01:18:55,935 --> 01:18:58,655
Speaker 11: number of things you can use. You could use a

1384
01:18:58,775 --> 01:19:02,055
Speaker 11: good old lumber cider. You could use X two hundred

1385
01:19:02,095 --> 01:19:04,495
Speaker 11: if you want a bit more sort of water pressing

1386
01:19:04,575 --> 01:19:10,215
Speaker 11: qualities or whether witness as they say, uh yep, start

1387
01:19:10,255 --> 01:19:12,735
Speaker 11: with the sure seal and awhere you go.

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01:19:13,015 --> 01:19:16,735
Speaker 6: If you're painting bricks, would you like, I suppose if

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01:19:16,735 --> 01:19:20,135
Speaker 6: they're relatively smooth, you know, like the old fashioned clinker

1390
01:19:20,135 --> 01:19:22,775
Speaker 6: bricks would be really hard to paint. But a traditional

1391
01:19:22,975 --> 01:19:26,935
Speaker 6: sort of commons, right, a standard brick roller and then

1392
01:19:27,015 --> 01:19:29,895
Speaker 6: cut in the joints or just a really fluffy roller

1393
01:19:29,935 --> 01:19:32,055
Speaker 6: and that'll get into all the water joints.

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01:19:32,415 --> 01:19:35,095
Speaker 11: Yeah, one of those big huge lambs will sleep.

1395
01:19:35,015 --> 01:19:36,215
Speaker 6: Right, okay.

1396
01:19:36,455 --> 01:19:39,215
Speaker 11: Yeah, and you know, just you know, it'd take a

1397
01:19:39,255 --> 01:19:41,095
Speaker 11: little bit of work to to you know, to work

1398
01:19:41,135 --> 01:19:45,135
Speaker 11: the painting, but yes, that's a good thing, you know,

1399
01:19:45,455 --> 01:19:47,655
Speaker 11: working it into the actual substrate itself.

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01:19:48,695 --> 01:19:48,895
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:19:48,895 --> 01:19:53,855
Speaker 6: Absolutely, In a quick one. Here, best product to use

1402
01:19:53,935 --> 01:19:58,055
Speaker 6: for cleaning killer decks. It's it's currently unstained, so just

1403
01:19:58,175 --> 01:20:02,655
Speaker 6: bear killer decking. You know, it gets that sort of

1404
01:20:02,655 --> 01:20:04,775
Speaker 6: moss and mold on it over a period of time.

1405
01:20:05,215 --> 01:20:06,695
Speaker 6: What's a good way of that.

1406
01:20:07,775 --> 01:20:10,535
Speaker 11: Yeah. We have a product called Timber and Dick wash yep,

1407
01:20:11,695 --> 01:20:14,175
Speaker 11: which you know, you mix you mix it in the

1408
01:20:14,295 --> 01:20:18,055
Speaker 11: ratio with water and give it a good scrubbing and

1409
01:20:18,335 --> 01:20:21,335
Speaker 11: then rinse it off straight away and it should actually

1410
01:20:21,335 --> 01:20:22,695
Speaker 11: bring the timber up quite nicely.

1411
01:20:22,935 --> 01:20:25,895
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's available in store yep.

1412
01:20:26,415 --> 01:20:29,975
Speaker 11: It also opens up the timber fibers and allows you know,

1413
01:20:30,095 --> 01:20:32,055
Speaker 11: the timber to accept staying quite.

1414
01:20:31,855 --> 01:20:34,415
Speaker 6: More readily, if you if you then wanted to go

1415
01:20:34,455 --> 01:20:38,495
Speaker 6: down that path. Bryce is always fantastic advice and all

1416
01:20:38,495 --> 01:20:41,415
Speaker 6: of those products available at the Razine Color Store, and

1417
01:20:41,615 --> 01:20:44,095
Speaker 6: good advice from the team there as well. Again, Bryce,

1418
01:20:44,215 --> 01:20:46,455
Speaker 6: much appreciated, Thanks very much for your time this morning.

1419
01:20:46,815 --> 01:20:55,175
Speaker 6: After the news we're talking Sola yeah, with news talks,

1420
01:20:55,175 --> 01:20:57,335
Speaker 6: he'd be We're back final hour of the show. Pete

1421
01:20:57,335 --> 01:21:00,215
Speaker 6: wolf Camp resident build it with you this morning. Marlin

1422
01:21:00,255 --> 01:21:02,655
Speaker 6: from Life Force. Sola is with me in the studio.

1423
01:21:02,735 --> 01:21:08,495
Speaker 6: But Gray, you've been waiting patiently. So quick call from you, sir, question, Yeah,

1424
01:21:08,775 --> 01:21:09,295
Speaker 6: go for it?

1425
01:21:09,415 --> 01:21:10,255
Speaker 14: Are you there, Peter?

1426
01:21:10,455 --> 01:21:11,015
Speaker 6: I am great?

1427
01:21:11,055 --> 01:21:12,855
Speaker 11: Go for it? Oh yeah.

1428
01:21:13,375 --> 01:21:16,895
Speaker 14: Now I've got a building. It's ten meters high, and

1429
01:21:16,975 --> 01:21:20,375
Speaker 14: I wanted in. With the storms we've had up north here,

1430
01:21:20,655 --> 01:21:24,895
Speaker 14: especially up in Kaiko, the tear lighters have broken off,

1431
01:21:25,495 --> 01:21:29,935
Speaker 14: and I'm wondering how I could go about repairing it

1432
01:21:30,055 --> 01:21:33,215
Speaker 14: all to see what's you know, how much I need

1433
01:21:33,695 --> 01:21:39,055
Speaker 14: and to do the job safely. Look, we've got any suggestions, but.

1434
01:21:39,415 --> 01:21:42,495
Speaker 6: My best suggestion would be get a professional to come

1435
01:21:42,535 --> 01:21:46,535
Speaker 6: and do it. You know, ten meters up clear light

1436
01:21:47,535 --> 01:21:49,735
Speaker 6: you know, I know there was an instant not that

1437
01:21:49,895 --> 01:21:52,415
Speaker 6: long ago where a young worker fell through a clear

1438
01:21:52,495 --> 01:21:56,855
Speaker 6: light panel and suffered terrible injuries. I think, you know,

1439
01:21:56,935 --> 01:22:00,375
Speaker 6: it's high risk work at high heights, so I would

1440
01:22:00,375 --> 01:22:03,895
Speaker 6: be going around finding a local roofing contractor. I don't

1441
01:22:03,935 --> 01:22:05,975
Speaker 6: think I'd want to be up ten meters high trying

1442
01:22:05,975 --> 01:22:08,655
Speaker 6: to figure out what's going on, so time for the professionals.

1443
01:22:08,735 --> 01:22:11,015
Speaker 6: I think on that one, Gray, all the very best

1444
01:22:11,055 --> 01:22:13,455
Speaker 6: to you. Now that's a nice segue because suddenly we're

1445
01:22:13,455 --> 01:22:16,975
Speaker 6: talking about roofs and typically where do we put solar panels?

1446
01:22:17,055 --> 01:22:19,415
Speaker 6: We put them on the roof. So it's my great

1447
01:22:19,455 --> 01:22:23,215
Speaker 6: pleasure today to welcome Marlin from Life for Solar to

1448
01:22:23,335 --> 01:22:27,935
Speaker 6: come into the studio. And we spoke earlier in the week.

1449
01:22:28,055 --> 01:22:31,015
Speaker 6: And what I'm very aware of a couple of things.

1450
01:22:31,015 --> 01:22:33,175
Speaker 6: One is, in the ten years of doing the show,

1451
01:22:33,215 --> 01:22:35,815
Speaker 6: I don't think we've ever talked specifically about solar, so

1452
01:22:35,855 --> 01:22:39,015
Speaker 6: we're well overdue. And the other part is that some

1453
01:22:39,055 --> 01:22:42,015
Speaker 6: of the stuff that I know about solar is probably

1454
01:22:42,015 --> 01:22:44,615
Speaker 6: a little bit out of date and that the technology

1455
01:22:44,655 --> 01:22:48,375
Speaker 6: has moved on. So welcome, lovely to see you, Thanks

1456
01:22:48,415 --> 01:22:52,335
Speaker 6: for coming in. So let's start with as best you

1457
01:22:52,375 --> 01:22:55,735
Speaker 6: can describe it in ways that even I would understand.

1458
01:22:56,495 --> 01:22:59,295
Speaker 6: How does a solar panel work? So we've got this thing,

1459
01:22:59,375 --> 01:23:03,575
Speaker 6: we put it on the roof and magically seemingly generates electricity.

1460
01:23:03,695 --> 01:23:04,775
Speaker 6: What happens, all right?

1461
01:23:04,895 --> 01:23:08,215
Speaker 15: So with a solar essentially what you're doing is you're

1462
01:23:08,215 --> 01:23:13,015
Speaker 15: converting the Sun's energy and usable energy in the home.

1463
01:23:13,415 --> 01:23:16,055
Speaker 15: And the way that that happens is you will have

1464
01:23:16,095 --> 01:23:20,575
Speaker 15: an inverter in your home which converts the DC electricity

1465
01:23:20,615 --> 01:23:23,335
Speaker 15: from the sun to AC electricity that you can use

1466
01:23:23,375 --> 01:23:23,815
Speaker 15: in your home.

1467
01:23:25,455 --> 01:23:28,695
Speaker 6: So DC and what So what happens when the sun

1468
01:23:28,775 --> 01:23:34,695
Speaker 6: strikes the panel? It creates energy by agitating elements or

1469
01:23:34,735 --> 01:23:36,295
Speaker 6: getting electrons to move around.

1470
01:23:37,135 --> 01:23:41,735
Speaker 15: I would say, so, yeah, okay, I don't know the

1471
01:23:41,895 --> 01:23:44,655
Speaker 15: exact techniquogy. Yeah, that's thefation of how that works.

1472
01:23:44,735 --> 01:23:48,855
Speaker 6: So once once we've installed a solar array, we can

1473
01:23:48,935 --> 01:23:51,375
Speaker 6: then take that energy and use it inside the house.

1474
01:23:51,415 --> 01:23:54,495
Speaker 6: So for you guys, because you're doing installs on a

1475
01:23:54,535 --> 01:23:57,895
Speaker 6: weekly basis, daily base list, what's the process If someone

1476
01:23:57,935 --> 01:24:01,415
Speaker 6: goes I'm thinking about getting solar, where do they start?

1477
01:24:02,055 --> 01:24:04,215
Speaker 15: So the first thing that they would do is inquire

1478
01:24:04,255 --> 01:24:08,415
Speaker 15: with a solar company yep, and from there you'd typically

1479
01:24:08,455 --> 01:24:12,735
Speaker 15: do a consultation to figure out exactly what will work

1480
01:24:12,775 --> 01:24:15,415
Speaker 15: on your roof. So, as we know, every roof is

1481
01:24:15,415 --> 01:24:19,295
Speaker 15: different in terms of the orientation than the roof material,

1482
01:24:20,455 --> 01:24:22,775
Speaker 15: so every home is different in terms of what they

1483
01:24:22,775 --> 01:24:26,735
Speaker 15: can achieve with solar. Right, So the first step would

1484
01:24:26,735 --> 01:24:29,935
Speaker 15: be getting a consultation with the solar provider.

1485
01:24:29,895 --> 01:24:32,815
Speaker 6: And when you're looking at that, what's really really important?

1486
01:24:32,895 --> 01:24:36,615
Speaker 6: Is it orientation, is it roof shape? Is it potential

1487
01:24:36,655 --> 01:24:38,655
Speaker 6: for shading? Like what are the main things that you

1488
01:24:38,655 --> 01:24:40,295
Speaker 6: look at when you're assessing for Solar?

1489
01:24:40,695 --> 01:24:45,175
Speaker 15: So a little bit of everything really okay. So ideally

1490
01:24:45,215 --> 01:24:48,615
Speaker 15: you'd have a decent amount of space because panels are

1491
01:24:48,695 --> 01:24:51,535
Speaker 15: actually quite large that you can't really tell when you're

1492
01:24:51,535 --> 01:24:54,895
Speaker 15: looking at it from the street, but they're around two

1493
01:24:54,935 --> 01:24:57,655
Speaker 15: meters by one point two meters in size for each panel,

1494
01:24:58,295 --> 01:25:01,815
Speaker 15: so you need to have enough space for one. In

1495
01:25:01,895 --> 01:25:05,615
Speaker 15: terms of the orientation, north is obviously the best, however,

1496
01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:09,655
Speaker 15: we are so do east and west facing roofs. Sometimes

1497
01:25:09,655 --> 01:25:11,575
Speaker 15: we'll do some on the east, some on the west

1498
01:25:11,815 --> 01:25:14,255
Speaker 15: as well.

1499
01:25:13,215 --> 01:25:17,455
Speaker 6: Right, And we'll come to that because actually, let's discuss

1500
01:25:17,495 --> 01:25:19,415
Speaker 6: it now. One of the things that I know from

1501
01:25:19,455 --> 01:25:22,295
Speaker 6: solar from let's say ten to fifteen, even twenty years ago,

1502
01:25:22,935 --> 01:25:25,495
Speaker 6: is that the way in which the panels were arrayed

1503
01:25:25,495 --> 01:25:29,455
Speaker 6: on the roof, if some panels weren't working to their optimum,

1504
01:25:29,495 --> 01:25:32,255
Speaker 6: they might be shaded by a tree or by a chimney,

1505
01:25:32,495 --> 01:25:35,335
Speaker 6: or in this case where some might be facing east

1506
01:25:35,335 --> 01:25:38,335
Speaker 6: and some might be facing west, it seemed to degrade

1507
01:25:38,615 --> 01:25:42,495
Speaker 6: the overall performance of the entire system, whereas today that's

1508
01:25:42,615 --> 01:25:43,295
Speaker 6: not the case.

1509
01:25:43,935 --> 01:25:47,655
Speaker 15: So with that, so you're Invertera, essentially will have a

1510
01:25:47,655 --> 01:25:51,535
Speaker 15: couple of inputs, right, so if you're doing east and west, yes,

1511
01:25:51,535 --> 01:25:54,295
Speaker 15: it have one array in one input and the other

1512
01:25:54,655 --> 01:25:57,575
Speaker 15: array on another input. So they're not affecting each other,

1513
01:25:58,135 --> 01:25:59,215
Speaker 15: those two separate.

1514
01:25:58,975 --> 01:26:02,375
Speaker 6: Arrays, Whereas maybe years ago, and we're talking you know,

1515
01:26:02,415 --> 01:26:04,615
Speaker 6: like I say, fifteen twenty years ago, if they were

1516
01:26:04,655 --> 01:26:07,975
Speaker 6: all connected together, then one part was not working well,

1517
01:26:07,975 --> 01:26:10,775
Speaker 6: it would have reduced the performance. That would make an

1518
01:26:10,775 --> 01:26:13,735
Speaker 6: appreciable difference to the amount of power that you can

1519
01:26:13,775 --> 01:26:17,815
Speaker 6: generate from your solar array. The advances and technology.

1520
01:26:17,375 --> 01:26:20,535
Speaker 15: Yes, definitely, Yeah, there's been a lot of advances over

1521
01:26:20,535 --> 01:26:21,335
Speaker 15: the last few years.

1522
01:26:21,415 --> 01:26:21,615
Speaker 6: Yep.

1523
01:26:22,615 --> 01:26:27,815
Speaker 15: Panels are of a higher efficiency, higher wattage, and yeah,

1524
01:26:27,855 --> 01:26:29,655
Speaker 15: you can just you can generate a lot more than

1525
01:26:29,695 --> 01:26:31,535
Speaker 15: what you used to be able to in the past.

1526
01:26:31,735 --> 01:26:31,935
Speaker 5: Right.

1527
01:26:32,335 --> 01:26:35,855
Speaker 6: The other thing that seems to have changed is, let's

1528
01:26:35,895 --> 01:26:40,255
Speaker 6: say the longevity of the panels. And I know in

1529
01:26:40,335 --> 01:26:43,975
Speaker 6: discussing with homeowners again years ago, they'd go, okay, so

1530
01:26:44,095 --> 01:26:46,575
Speaker 6: I'm going to invest X number of dollars I might

1531
01:26:46,695 --> 01:26:50,215
Speaker 6: save this amount on a weekly basis or a monthly

1532
01:26:50,255 --> 01:26:53,175
Speaker 6: basis on my power bill. So maybe after five or

1533
01:26:53,215 --> 01:26:56,055
Speaker 6: six years I would have recouped my investment, but then

1534
01:26:56,095 --> 01:26:58,335
Speaker 6: my panels have kind of reached the end of their

1535
01:26:58,335 --> 01:27:01,415
Speaker 6: life at that point as well. Was that's probably not

1536
01:27:01,535 --> 01:27:04,695
Speaker 6: unfair to say that that was part of solar fifteen

1537
01:27:04,775 --> 01:27:08,135
Speaker 6: twenty years ago to day. And even with your panels,

1538
01:27:08,175 --> 01:27:10,615
Speaker 6: that's a twenty five year warranty on the panels.

1539
01:27:10,295 --> 01:27:12,975
Speaker 15: That's correct. Yes, so the product warranty on panels is

1540
01:27:13,575 --> 01:27:15,415
Speaker 15: a lot longer than what it used to be. Yeah,

1541
01:27:15,655 --> 01:27:18,335
Speaker 15: it's twenty five years on the product for the panels

1542
01:27:18,335 --> 01:27:20,735
Speaker 15: that we use, as well as a thirty year warranty

1543
01:27:20,775 --> 01:27:23,575
Speaker 15: on the performance of them. So over that thirty year

1544
01:27:23,575 --> 01:27:27,855
Speaker 15: period they'll lose eighteen percent efficiency and they still have

1545
01:27:28,215 --> 01:27:31,015
Speaker 15: eighty two percent left to go after that thirty year period.

1546
01:27:31,135 --> 01:27:34,415
Speaker 6: But that's a dramatic step forward in terms of if

1547
01:27:34,415 --> 01:27:36,695
Speaker 6: you imagine what it was like, you know that you'd

1548
01:27:36,695 --> 01:27:39,095
Speaker 6: get five seven years out of panels and now you're

1549
01:27:39,095 --> 01:27:40,575
Speaker 6: getting twenty five thirty years.

1550
01:27:40,575 --> 01:27:42,695
Speaker 15: That's it is huge, Yeah.

1551
01:27:42,615 --> 01:27:46,415
Speaker 6: Massive step forward in terms of some of the practicalities

1552
01:27:46,455 --> 01:27:51,175
Speaker 6: around the install are there roofs and situations where it's

1553
01:27:51,295 --> 01:27:53,175
Speaker 6: just not practical to install.

1554
01:27:53,615 --> 01:27:57,375
Speaker 15: There are a few situations, yes, So one would be

1555
01:27:57,575 --> 01:28:01,175
Speaker 15: membrane roof, right, yeah, and understandably, yeah, in order to

1556
01:28:01,175 --> 01:28:07,775
Speaker 15: get the mounting onto membrane roofs to costly endeavor, sure,

1557
01:28:07,975 --> 01:28:10,295
Speaker 15: you know, you have to get custom plates put on,

1558
01:28:10,375 --> 01:28:13,615
Speaker 15: which can really blow out the cost and mean that

1559
01:28:13,655 --> 01:28:15,815
Speaker 15: you're not going to be saving as much or the

1560
01:28:15,895 --> 01:28:18,455
Speaker 15: return on investment will be a lot longer as a result.

1561
01:28:18,895 --> 01:28:20,775
Speaker 6: How I would say though that if you did have

1562
01:28:20,815 --> 01:28:23,655
Speaker 6: a membrane roof and you knew you wanted to install solar,

1563
01:28:23,735 --> 01:28:27,055
Speaker 6: you could incorporate you know, some brackets into the design

1564
01:28:27,255 --> 01:28:30,255
Speaker 6: or mounting panels, you know, as part of it. So

1565
01:28:30,295 --> 01:28:33,495
Speaker 6: it's definitely doable. Doing it later is a little bit

1566
01:28:33,535 --> 01:28:37,215
Speaker 6: more difficult, so typical sort of corrigated iron roof, concrete

1567
01:28:37,295 --> 01:28:39,575
Speaker 6: tile roof, no problem.

1568
01:28:39,255 --> 01:28:42,615
Speaker 15: No problem. Another one that is a little bit difficult,

1569
01:28:42,615 --> 01:28:45,655
Speaker 15: in one that we don't do it lightful solar anymore

1570
01:28:45,735 --> 01:28:48,415
Speaker 15: is clay tile, okay, and that the reason for.

1571
01:28:48,415 --> 01:28:51,175
Speaker 6: That is just it's so fragile, that's right. Yeah, And

1572
01:28:51,655 --> 01:28:54,295
Speaker 6: again clay tiles a little bit old now and a

1573
01:28:54,295 --> 01:28:55,895
Speaker 6: lot of them would be reaching the end of their

1574
01:28:55,935 --> 01:28:59,335
Speaker 6: life anyway. So in terms of like let's say as

1575
01:28:59,335 --> 01:29:03,175
Speaker 6: a homeowner, you go, actually, I'm interested in solar and

1576
01:29:03,255 --> 01:29:05,615
Speaker 6: you go, okay, I've reached out to a company to

1577
01:29:05,655 --> 01:29:09,535
Speaker 6: provide me with the estimate. They've done their assessment. It's

1578
01:29:09,615 --> 01:29:13,895
Speaker 6: actually practically achievable. Where do I What happens after that

1579
01:29:13,935 --> 01:29:15,735
Speaker 6: in terms of when it hands over to your team,

1580
01:29:15,775 --> 01:29:18,215
Speaker 6: for example, for the install, what's the install process?

1581
01:29:18,335 --> 01:29:18,455
Speaker 11: Like?

1582
01:29:18,735 --> 01:29:22,015
Speaker 15: Okay, so the first step is getting a DG application

1583
01:29:22,935 --> 01:29:25,575
Speaker 15: with the lines company. This is essentially just telling the

1584
01:29:25,575 --> 01:29:28,495
Speaker 15: lines company that hey, this home is going to get

1585
01:29:28,535 --> 01:29:29,295
Speaker 15: SOLER on the roof.

1586
01:29:29,415 --> 01:29:29,655
Speaker 11: Right.

1587
01:29:30,335 --> 01:29:34,535
Speaker 15: The process for that takes three to four weeks after

1588
01:29:34,575 --> 01:29:39,015
Speaker 15: this has been approved, which almost universally is approved. Once

1589
01:29:39,055 --> 01:29:44,015
Speaker 15: that's approved, then you'd get installed. So what that timeline

1590
01:29:44,055 --> 01:29:47,455
Speaker 15: looks like depends on how the company, how busy they

1591
01:29:47,455 --> 01:29:50,015
Speaker 15: are in your region, that kind of thing could be

1592
01:29:50,015 --> 01:29:53,775
Speaker 15: a couple of weeks after that DG application. After that,

1593
01:29:54,895 --> 01:29:58,975
Speaker 15: you would get inspected by an independent inspector to just

1594
01:29:59,375 --> 01:30:02,535
Speaker 15: ensure that the work is up to scratch yep. After that,

1595
01:30:03,055 --> 01:30:05,535
Speaker 15: you would have your meter change to an import export

1596
01:30:05,575 --> 01:30:10,415
Speaker 15: meter with your energy provider. Right, and once that's done,

1597
01:30:10,615 --> 01:30:14,375
Speaker 15: the system is livened, and you'll be harnessing the power

1598
01:30:14,415 --> 01:30:14,775
Speaker 15: of the sun.

1599
01:30:14,935 --> 01:30:17,015
Speaker 6: Okay, so there's some checks and balances and that in

1600
01:30:17,095 --> 01:30:20,295
Speaker 6: terms of like the electrical inspector who actually has to

1601
01:30:20,375 --> 01:30:23,135
Speaker 6: do the work on the board. They're independent, let's say,

1602
01:30:23,135 --> 01:30:25,415
Speaker 6: of the installer in all cases, in.

1603
01:30:25,215 --> 01:30:27,895
Speaker 15: Most cases, so they inspect the work. Yes, they don't

1604
01:30:27,895 --> 01:30:32,015
Speaker 15: do the electrical word, it would be electricians from the providers.

1605
01:30:32,215 --> 01:30:35,575
Speaker 6: Yeah. So in terms of getting the power, let's say

1606
01:30:35,575 --> 01:30:37,895
Speaker 6: that you're generating from your new solar panels on the

1607
01:30:37,975 --> 01:30:41,855
Speaker 6: roof down to the board. What's the typical process there.

1608
01:30:42,015 --> 01:30:45,335
Speaker 15: So we'd have our installers run conduit typically from the

1609
01:30:45,415 --> 01:30:49,015
Speaker 15: panels down to the inverter, which in most cases is

1610
01:30:49,095 --> 01:30:50,535
Speaker 15: near your switchboard.

1611
01:30:51,655 --> 01:30:55,495
Speaker 6: And in some cases that's typically exterior, so that hence

1612
01:30:55,535 --> 01:30:59,015
Speaker 6: the conduit. Or if you can find a pathway through

1613
01:30:59,055 --> 01:31:01,735
Speaker 6: the house, is that doable as well?

1614
01:31:01,775 --> 01:31:04,215
Speaker 15: That is also doable, yes, right, So it really comes

1615
01:31:04,255 --> 01:31:07,935
Speaker 15: down to what each customer is wanting. Yes, some don't

1616
01:31:07,935 --> 01:31:11,015
Speaker 15: want to see it external conduit and then happily have

1617
01:31:11,095 --> 01:31:14,495
Speaker 15: it run inside. Others don't want it run inside and

1618
01:31:14,535 --> 01:31:16,815
Speaker 15: so they prefer the external cond Right. It really is

1619
01:31:16,815 --> 01:31:18,095
Speaker 15: an individual basis.

1620
01:31:17,775 --> 01:31:20,255
Speaker 6: And that cabling that comes from the panels down to

1621
01:31:20,295 --> 01:31:24,895
Speaker 6: the board, that's standard electrical cable. It's not anything unexpected

1622
01:31:25,015 --> 01:31:27,735
Speaker 6: or you star tricky or anything like that. It's a

1623
01:31:27,895 --> 01:31:33,895
Speaker 6: good old, good old cable. Okay. And then and I

1624
01:31:33,895 --> 01:31:37,695
Speaker 6: guess once you've gone through the regulatory stuff and the

1625
01:31:37,815 --> 01:31:40,095
Speaker 6: meter has changed, Actually, could you just step me through

1626
01:31:40,135 --> 01:31:42,335
Speaker 6: what's the difference between let's say, a standard meta like

1627
01:31:42,375 --> 01:31:44,055
Speaker 6: the one that I have at home, and one that

1628
01:31:44,175 --> 01:31:45,895
Speaker 6: is both import export.

1629
01:31:46,215 --> 01:31:51,175
Speaker 15: So your standard meter is just important, right, So it's

1630
01:31:51,215 --> 01:31:54,615
Speaker 15: just calculating what you're using on a day to day basis.

1631
01:31:54,895 --> 01:31:59,335
Speaker 15: An import export meter also captures what you're sending back

1632
01:31:59,375 --> 01:32:03,175
Speaker 15: to the grid if your solar is generating more than

1633
01:32:03,575 --> 01:32:04,815
Speaker 15: what you're using in the.

1634
01:32:04,815 --> 01:32:08,575
Speaker 6: House, right, Okay, and she let's pick up on that.

1635
01:32:08,615 --> 01:32:11,455
Speaker 6: We're going to take a short break and have a

1636
01:32:11,495 --> 01:32:14,015
Speaker 6: look at the impact of having a battery. So if

1637
01:32:14,015 --> 01:32:19,775
Speaker 6: you can combine solar panels and generation with storage on site,

1638
01:32:19,815 --> 01:32:22,095
Speaker 6: I think that feels like it's a game changer as well.

1639
01:32:22,575 --> 01:32:24,935
Speaker 6: So we'll come back. Marlon from Light Force solar is

1640
01:32:24,975 --> 01:32:27,255
Speaker 6: with me in the studio. If you want to flick

1641
01:32:27,255 --> 01:32:29,575
Speaker 6: through a text that'll be fine as well. We've got

1642
01:32:29,575 --> 01:32:31,815
Speaker 6: a little bit time for a couple of questions after

1643
01:32:31,855 --> 01:32:35,255
Speaker 6: the break back. In just a moment used dog Zvy.

1644
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1647
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1648
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1649
01:33:05,335 --> 01:33:09,855
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1650
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1651
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1652
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1653
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1654
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1655
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1656
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1657
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1658
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1660
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Speaker 11: Z ME.

1661
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Speaker 6: Your newstalk said, been with me in the studio Marlon

1662
01:33:53,055 --> 01:33:57,375
Speaker 6: from lightfour solar quick text. That's come through couple of things.

1663
01:33:57,415 --> 01:34:01,935
Speaker 6: One is, in terms of optimum performance from the panels,

1664
01:34:02,255 --> 01:34:05,775
Speaker 6: there is maintenance required. So what typically is the maintenance

1665
01:34:05,775 --> 01:34:06,615
Speaker 6: for solar panels.

1666
01:34:06,975 --> 01:34:11,015
Speaker 15: So they're pretty low key in terms of the maintenance

1667
01:34:11,015 --> 01:34:15,055
Speaker 15: that's required. I'd say you'd want to clean them maybe

1668
01:34:15,095 --> 01:34:19,175
Speaker 15: once a year. There are situations where it might be

1669
01:34:19,215 --> 01:34:21,855
Speaker 15: prudent to clean them every six months.

1670
01:34:21,935 --> 01:34:22,135
Speaker 9: Yep.

1671
01:34:22,255 --> 01:34:24,975
Speaker 15: That would be if your roof's really low pitched so

1672
01:34:25,015 --> 01:34:27,095
Speaker 15: that the rain isn't self cleaning the panels.

1673
01:34:27,175 --> 01:34:27,495
Speaker 6: Yes.

1674
01:34:27,975 --> 01:34:30,935
Speaker 15: Another would be if you have a lot of large

1675
01:34:30,975 --> 01:34:34,335
Speaker 15: trees nearby that might be dropping debris onto the panels.

1676
01:34:34,615 --> 01:34:34,775
Speaker 5: Right.

1677
01:34:35,015 --> 01:34:38,215
Speaker 15: Usually it's a little bit of a visual inspection, see

1678
01:34:38,215 --> 01:34:40,495
Speaker 15: if there's stuff on the on the panels, if there

1679
01:34:40,535 --> 01:34:43,535
Speaker 15: is a clean if not, typically once a.

1680
01:34:43,575 --> 01:34:46,575
Speaker 6: Year, and that cleaning process is like, can you use

1681
01:34:46,655 --> 01:34:49,615
Speaker 6: like a chemical pre wash on them or a light

1682
01:34:49,735 --> 01:34:52,335
Speaker 6: sort of soapy water. What's what's involved?

1683
01:34:52,375 --> 01:34:56,055
Speaker 15: Yeah, so best would be just soapy water, soft bristled brush.

1684
01:34:55,935 --> 01:34:58,855
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, and then rinse off obviously, So you do

1685
01:34:58,935 --> 01:35:01,735
Speaker 6: actually need to get up in close to the panel

1686
01:35:01,815 --> 01:35:05,175
Speaker 6: in order to sort of eduitate with a soft broom. Yes, okay,

1687
01:35:05,215 --> 01:35:07,215
Speaker 6: and no worries about using a broom on the panel.

1688
01:35:07,375 --> 01:35:10,095
Speaker 6: I mean they're fairly durable, aren't they. Yeah, they are okay,

1689
01:35:10,175 --> 01:35:13,175
Speaker 6: all right, But obviously there's a safety thing there around

1690
01:35:13,575 --> 01:35:16,815
Speaker 6: working safely on your roof with water. But hey, it's

1691
01:35:16,815 --> 01:35:20,575
Speaker 6: definitely doable now a couple. This is always the tricky one,

1692
01:35:20,615 --> 01:35:23,815
Speaker 6: isn't it. What's the cost? Right? And this has come

1693
01:35:23,855 --> 01:35:26,495
Speaker 6: from a text, so just a rough idea on price.

1694
01:35:27,215 --> 01:35:30,535
Speaker 6: They are saying, Chris, who sent through the text with

1695
01:35:30,655 --> 01:35:33,455
Speaker 6: the rough idea of price, We've got the perfect roof.

1696
01:35:33,495 --> 01:35:35,495
Speaker 6: So I'm guessing they've got a great big roof that

1697
01:35:35,575 --> 01:35:41,575
Speaker 6: faces north readily able to install solar panels. There rough

1698
01:35:41,815 --> 01:35:43,695
Speaker 6: prices and that's all we can expect on that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, So I'll just qualify it briefly as well that

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01:35:47,175 --> 01:35:49,495
Speaker 15: every home is very different in terms of what they're

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01:35:49,575 --> 01:35:52,975
Speaker 15: using and what they would need out of solar. So

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01:35:53,935 --> 01:35:56,695
Speaker 15: in terms of a rough price, it can range from

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01:35:57,095 --> 01:35:59,815
Speaker 15: ten to twenty five thousand dollars if you're just getting

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01:36:00,015 --> 01:36:02,815
Speaker 15: solar panels, yep. If you're adding a battery onto that

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01:36:03,175 --> 01:36:05,815
Speaker 15: you're starting probably at around thirty thousand and going up

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01:36:05,815 --> 01:36:06,215
Speaker 15: from there.

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01:36:06,375 --> 01:36:06,615
Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Now, the batteries are I'm going to call them

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01:36:11,375 --> 01:36:14,055
Speaker 6: relatively new. I know that they're not. But let's say

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01:36:14,095 --> 01:36:17,135
Speaker 6: in the last five to ten years, the cost of

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01:36:17,175 --> 01:36:20,535
Speaker 6: them has dropped dramatically, as these things do with technology,

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01:36:20,775 --> 01:36:23,415
Speaker 6: the performance has gone up. What's the benefit of adding

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01:36:23,455 --> 01:36:25,015
Speaker 6: a battery to your solar array?

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01:36:25,415 --> 01:36:28,175
Speaker 15: So there are a couple of benefits. So one of

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01:36:28,215 --> 01:36:31,895
Speaker 15: them is that a lot of people aren't working from

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01:36:31,935 --> 01:36:35,695
Speaker 15: home anymore as well, so you're using a lot of

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01:36:35,735 --> 01:36:38,935
Speaker 15: your power, usually in the mornings and evenings, right, So

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01:36:39,015 --> 01:36:42,415
Speaker 15: having a battery means that you will fill that battery

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01:36:42,455 --> 01:36:45,975
Speaker 15: and then use your battery when you're at home using power.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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01:36:46,695 --> 01:36:51,535
Speaker 15: Another very important part of it is having a battery

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01:36:51,535 --> 01:36:54,095
Speaker 15: in the case of a red outage, which yep, a

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01:36:54,095 --> 01:36:58,535
Speaker 15: lot of people have been experiencing exilience, especially recently, there

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01:36:58,575 --> 01:37:01,295
Speaker 15: have been a lot of situations where having a battery

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01:37:01,335 --> 01:37:04,415
Speaker 15: would have been very good, you know, like, yeah, for

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01:37:04,495 --> 01:37:05,895
Speaker 15: that energy independence.

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01:37:06,975 --> 01:37:08,655
Speaker 6: And then I suppose if you're a little bit smart

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01:37:08,695 --> 01:37:12,495
Speaker 6: with your appliance use, you can then program appliances, you know,

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01:37:12,495 --> 01:37:14,895
Speaker 6: with a timer to make use of some of that

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01:37:14,975 --> 01:37:18,975
Speaker 6: battery storage as well. That's correct, Yeah, okay, Actually just

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01:37:18,975 --> 01:37:22,655
Speaker 6: a thought on that. So on a really rainy, overcast,

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01:37:22,935 --> 01:37:28,055
Speaker 6: miserable winter's day, what's the impact of overcast and rainy

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01:37:28,095 --> 01:37:30,455
Speaker 6: conditions on power generation from solar?

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01:37:30,655 --> 01:37:34,095
Speaker 15: So, yes, yeah, so you won't you won't generate as

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01:37:34,175 --> 01:37:36,695
Speaker 15: much power. There will still be a little truckle coming through,

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01:37:37,095 --> 01:37:39,535
Speaker 15: but it will be reduced.

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01:37:40,535 --> 01:37:42,055
Speaker 6: To be expected in the same way that you're not

1738
01:37:42,095 --> 01:37:45,935
Speaker 6: generating overnight. If it's dark, then solar panels are not

1739
01:37:46,015 --> 01:37:49,815
Speaker 6: working in terms of Now here's another text as well.

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01:37:50,095 --> 01:37:52,215
Speaker 6: Not sure if us, but do I need a building

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01:37:52,535 --> 01:37:54,735
Speaker 6: consent for solar?

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01:37:55,935 --> 01:38:00,615
Speaker 15: That's a good question, and in nearly all cases no, yep.

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01:38:00,935 --> 01:38:03,175
Speaker 15: The only time when the consent is really required, or

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01:38:03,215 --> 01:38:04,775
Speaker 15: the only times that I've heard of it coming up,

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01:38:04,815 --> 01:38:07,735
Speaker 15: are for heritage buildings.

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01:38:07,495 --> 01:38:10,255
Speaker 6: Okay, in terms of its impact, So that's more around

1747
01:38:10,335 --> 01:38:12,335
Speaker 6: resource consent. What's it going to look like to have

1748
01:38:12,415 --> 01:38:13,615
Speaker 6: panels on an older house?

1749
01:38:13,695 --> 01:38:14,095
Speaker 5: That's right?

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01:38:14,535 --> 01:38:16,255
Speaker 6: Okay? Is that common?

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01:38:16,695 --> 01:38:19,495
Speaker 15: That's pretty rare? Okay, there are some places in Mount Eaton,

1752
01:38:19,695 --> 01:38:22,975
Speaker 15: let's say, where they don't want panels on the road frontage. Yes,

1753
01:38:23,415 --> 01:38:25,895
Speaker 15: and so you'd have to have them on the back.

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01:38:26,575 --> 01:38:30,615
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I mean it would be such a small

1755
01:38:30,695 --> 01:38:33,415
Speaker 6: number of houses across the country that it's negligible, isn't it.

1756
01:38:33,415 --> 01:38:36,615
Speaker 6: That's right, And just I'm thinking about the guys doing

1757
01:38:36,695 --> 01:38:40,055
Speaker 6: all the people doing the install. In most cases, you're

1758
01:38:40,095 --> 01:38:44,415
Speaker 6: able to work without necessarily having full scaffolding and so on.

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01:38:44,495 --> 01:38:48,295
Speaker 6: All of your teams would be I guess, rope qualified

1760
01:38:48,295 --> 01:38:49,775
Speaker 6: and all the rest of it. So you're up there

1761
01:38:50,295 --> 01:38:54,335
Speaker 6: moving around, not necessarily requiring a full scaffold, needs protection

1762
01:38:54,415 --> 01:38:57,415
Speaker 6: and so on. Yep, that's correct, but fully compliant.

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01:38:57,575 --> 01:39:01,615
Speaker 15: Yes, that's right. So it depends on the roof, how

1764
01:39:02,095 --> 01:39:05,295
Speaker 15: high up it is whether we'll need scaff edge of protection. Yes,

1765
01:39:05,495 --> 01:39:09,895
Speaker 15: if it's low, lower pitched low single story, yep, than

1766
01:39:09,975 --> 01:39:10,975
Speaker 15: just ropes and harnesses.

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01:39:11,015 --> 01:39:16,615
Speaker 6: Yet, right, increasingly we're starting to see sort of three

1768
01:39:16,695 --> 01:39:20,655
Speaker 6: story walk ups, right in terms of in urban areas

1769
01:39:20,695 --> 01:39:24,735
Speaker 6: and semi detached houses and so on. Single story, double story,

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01:39:24,775 --> 01:39:27,495
Speaker 6: three story doesn't really make any difference in terms of

1771
01:39:27,495 --> 01:39:29,895
Speaker 6: the instore we've done them all, Okay.

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01:39:29,815 --> 01:39:33,295
Speaker 15: It does really depend, you know, like the extra cost

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01:39:33,375 --> 01:39:36,495
Speaker 15: of scaffolding sometimes sure limitation yep, you know, but yep,

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01:39:36,615 --> 01:39:37,135
Speaker 15: we'll do it.

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01:39:40,615 --> 01:39:44,935
Speaker 6: There is, Yeah, I mean there's a reasonable investment in

1776
01:39:45,015 --> 01:39:49,455
Speaker 6: it in terms of I think one of the things

1777
01:39:49,495 --> 01:39:52,015
Speaker 6: that is when we're talking about making our houses more

1778
01:39:52,055 --> 01:39:55,215
Speaker 6: eco friendly, right and more energy efficient. We're often talking

1779
01:39:55,295 --> 01:39:57,975
Speaker 6: about over a period of time, but typically New Zealanders

1780
01:39:58,495 --> 01:40:01,375
Speaker 6: might move on average, we move every five years, right,

1781
01:40:01,735 --> 01:40:03,775
Speaker 6: So setting up a system that's going to last for

1782
01:40:03,775 --> 01:40:06,015
Speaker 6: thirty years when we stay in our houses for five

1783
01:40:06,615 --> 01:40:10,535
Speaker 6: do you think that there's a benefit or there's something

1784
01:40:10,575 --> 01:40:13,895
Speaker 6: reflected in the value of that property by having solar

1785
01:40:14,055 --> 01:40:14,935
Speaker 6: for the next owner?

1786
01:40:15,415 --> 01:40:20,655
Speaker 15: Absolutely? Right, Yeah, So if you're saving fifty to sixty

1787
01:40:20,655 --> 01:40:23,295
Speaker 15: percent off your power bill, yep, that is a very

1788
01:40:23,295 --> 01:40:26,135
Speaker 15: good incentive when someone is coming to buy your home

1789
01:40:26,215 --> 01:40:30,375
Speaker 15: that you can show them this is what we've been saving. Yes,

1790
01:40:30,455 --> 01:40:33,495
Speaker 15: of the solar system that's on the roof, it does

1791
01:40:33,575 --> 01:40:36,495
Speaker 15: add value to the home for that reason.

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01:40:36,655 --> 01:40:38,215
Speaker 6: And the numbers are real because I was at a

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01:40:38,255 --> 01:40:41,855
Speaker 6: house the other day that had solar installed and had

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01:40:41,855 --> 01:40:44,855
Speaker 6: a battery and okay, it was summer time, but I said,

1795
01:40:44,855 --> 01:40:47,895
Speaker 6: what's your power bill? And it was three dollars ninety

1796
01:40:47,935 --> 01:40:50,935
Speaker 6: eight for the month, And those that's not uncommon.

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01:40:50,935 --> 01:40:52,175
Speaker 15: I take it it's not uncommon.

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01:40:52,455 --> 01:40:56,175
Speaker 6: Yeah, remarkable. Hey, Marlon, thank you very much for joining

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01:40:56,255 --> 01:40:59,095
Speaker 6: us in the studio. It's been great for me because

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Speaker 6: it's the first time we've had a chance to get

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01:41:01,095 --> 01:41:04,695
Speaker 6: stuck into solar in a deep dive. If people want

1802
01:41:04,695 --> 01:41:06,615
Speaker 6: to know more, what's the website.

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01:41:06,575 --> 01:41:09,935
Speaker 15: It's dot lightforce, dot co, dot nz.

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Speaker 6: Perfect Again, really appreciate your time, take care, Thank you

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