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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's jacktame on, hither duplice Allen drive with one New

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Speaker 1: And new stalk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Good, and he's yelling good afternoon, Jack tam in for heat.

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Speaker 3: The duplics c allen. That done it.

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Speaker 4: They have done it.

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Speaker 3: They've cracked it. The male contraception pill is a thing,

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Speaker 3: except it's not a pill. It's a gel. You rub

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Speaker 3: it on your shoulders. They reckon. It is as effective

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Speaker 3: after five o'clock on newstoroks he'db we are speaking to

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Speaker 3: at the government with their plans to spend four billion

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Speaker 3: yes you heard that right, four billion dollars fixing up

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Speaker 3: potholes around the country. Here's the thing, though, you can

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Speaker 3: break it down all of the funding region by region.

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Speaker 3: Some regions are seeing massive increases in pothole funding seventy percent,

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Speaker 3: will break down that funding for your region by region

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Speaker 3: very shortly. Indeed, right now it's eight minutes past.

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Speaker 1: Four ever due for ce Allen.

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Speaker 3: Zibbi a fascinating interview on the My Costing Breakfast this

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Speaker 3: morning with the lawyer acting on behalf of former workers

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Speaker 3: private information was improperly accessed to help with election campaigning.

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Speaker 3: Now these are really really serious allegations and it is

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Speaker 3: just so important to note that to Party Mardi and

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Speaker 3: John Tammaheaty have denied all allegations of wrongdoing so far.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, we have Stats New Zealand investigating, the

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Speaker 3: can be justified not only to restore public confidence in

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Speaker 3: to be publicly cleared of wrongdoing. You see, there are

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Speaker 3: We have a government department that is investigating, while a

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Speaker 3: has acted improperly. And I think that having one government

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Speaker 3: political advantage. So he suggests the current proceeds need to

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Speaker 3: I think we need something broader, something with clear terms

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Speaker 3: in the best interests of the voting public, but also

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Speaker 3: absolutely nothing wrong. Jack two ninety two ninety two is

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Speaker 3: the text number if you're gonna flick a message this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget that standard text costs supply. You can email

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Speaker 3: me as well if you like Jacket newstalks. He'db dot

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Speaker 3: co dot NZ. The Motor Vehicle Industry or the Motor

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Speaker 3: new car sales. This year, the sales are thirteen percent lower,

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Speaker 3: Motor Industry Association Chief executive Amy Wiley is with us now,

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Speaker 3: Hi Amy, Hi Jack. Why are we seeing such a

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Speaker 5: Well, we are in economic recessionary times, and I'm sure

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Speaker 5: it's not just limited to the sales of new cars

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Speaker 3: So are you seeing a drop in sales when it

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Speaker 5: Not to the same extent as new.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So in May we're down about thirty three percent,

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Did the end of the of the clean car discount,

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Speaker 5: Yes? I think it is policy driven. With the end

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Speaker 5: Well, with the government's budget announcement last week and listening

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Speaker 5: sounds like we're in for probably a bit of a

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Speaker 5: tough quarter three and quarter four, But for hopefully and

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Speaker 3: I think is anyone doing well.

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Speaker 5: Well? It's hard to answer that question. Actually, I guess

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Speaker 5: people selling hybrid vehicles probably are, right, that's where you know,

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Speaker 5: demand for hybrids, mild hybrids, petrol hybrids, I guess they're

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Speaker 5: it's pretty pretty tough going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. So why do you think hybrids are

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Speaker 5: Mild hybrids, petrol hybrids don't have a road.

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Speaker 3: User charge, right, and that's it, And I think, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think he's just they're voting with what they're buying, right,

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Speaker 5: and looking for things that they don't have to have

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Speaker 3: So let's flesh us out a little bit from here, right,

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Speaker 3: what will be the overall impact on the motor vehicle

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tough time for I feel sorry for

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Speaker 5: So in the new vehicle industry, they ordered vehicles six

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Speaker 5: got climate policies. And when consumers walk in and they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, thanks for your time, Amy, We appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Motor Industry Association. It's quarter past four.

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicy allan

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Speaker 2: drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business.

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Speaker 3: Used Talks B eighteen past four on new Stik Seed

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Speaker 3: B Jack came in for Heather Duplicity, Alan Darcy Waldgrave

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Speaker 3: Sports talk hosts with us in that hit in State

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Speaker 3: of Origin one last night, suerle On Reese Walsh. It

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Speaker 3: was actually a hard watch. I don't want to joke

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Speaker 3: about it. It was It made me feel physically sick.

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Speaker 6: Did your teeth chatter?

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Speaker 7: Job?

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Speaker 3: Just reminded me why I don't play contact sports anymore.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it took me back to my early years when

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Speaker 6: I also came to the same conclusion that this is

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Speaker 8: Carded off the park.

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Speaker 6: And I think the big issue here for me and

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Speaker 8: We have sport? Why do we have televised sport?

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Speaker 6: Who's at four?

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Speaker 8: Why do we have fans at sports? Who pays for it?

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Speaker 9: All?

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Speaker 6: We're the eyeballs, We're the fans. This is our product.

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Speaker 6: It's not yours, it's ours. So seven minutes into the game,

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Speaker 6: the oxygen goes out of the place. Half the fans

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Speaker 6: now looks new South Wales came back well. But I

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Speaker 6: think even though we don't have red cards much in

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Speaker 6: like that, maybe he shot at in the arts or

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Speaker 6: right on report that possibly they look to Super Rugby

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Speaker 6: and go, you know, maybe something like that, a twenty

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Speaker 6: the game doesn't get completely destroyed because I tweeted out

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Speaker 6: eight minutes past all the games is good as gone now,

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Speaker 8: And you knew that.

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Speaker 3: So what you're suggesting is after twenty minutes. So basically

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Speaker 3: he goes off for twenty so they're down a man,

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Speaker 3: they're down a player for twenty minutes. But so as

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Speaker 3: to not ruin the entire game, you then bring on

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Speaker 3: a replacement. It's not that he gets to come back,

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Speaker 3: which is.

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Speaker 8: They do in Super Level too. So I think a

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Speaker 8: lot of people like that.

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Speaker 6: I suppose out and out thuggery, Like if you stand

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Speaker 6: there and you know, take a pole nex to a

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Speaker 6: guy off forever and people would say that is out

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Speaker 6: and out thuggery. But Joe, he just turned around in

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Speaker 6: the tackle, re slipped a bit. But because he turned around,

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Speaker 6: he didn't see where he was going. So emphasis on

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Speaker 6: him to actually make that call and keep the tack

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Speaker 6: lee safe. And he didn't, and as you said, him

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Speaker 6: lying on the ground kind of like pulsing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to hear him up and talking today.

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Speaker 6: And it looks like he's been cleared and he's going

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Speaker 6: to be back to play again.

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Speaker 11: In a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 8: Don't don't fine, mate?

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Speaker 3: Even in the days I had she shloads of cash.

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Speaker 2: The day's newsweakers talk to Jack first, Jack Dame on

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Speaker 15: Do will come have a double side of wistern then

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: And the UN Secretary General wants to see an end

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Speaker 3: to ads for fossil fuels. Antonio Hutes says that like tobacco,

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Speaker 3: And finally, a researcher is claiming to have found evidence

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Speaker 15: They'd have no clue idea, so they turn it into

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Speaker 3: it up to you as to how seriously you take this.

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Speaker 2: News International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 3: Man Murray Olds is in Australia for this afternoon and Murray,

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Speaker 18: Young man radicalized online runs to the front of the church.

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Speaker 12: The world against these giant companies.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, pardon me.

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Speaker 18: Now Anthony Albanesi and his staff have not been able

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Speaker 12: see him.

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Speaker 4: Murray.

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Speaker 3: We think of the Australian economy as performing relatively well

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Speaker 3: compared to our own at the moment, but your economy's

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Speaker 3: on life support.

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Speaker 12: Sure is on its knees.

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Speaker 18: It's set a thirty year low bar for the few

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Speaker 18: years of the COVID pandemic, and that's prompted jack a

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Speaker 18: Reserve Bank warning.

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Speaker 12: That interest rates might have to go up. Now that

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Speaker 12: sounds a bit counterintuitive.

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Speaker 18: New figures show the economy grew just barely in the

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Speaker 18: first three months of the year zero point one percent,

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Speaker 18: half of what was expected, and annually it's grown just

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Speaker 18: over one point one percent. Now ahead of that data,

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Speaker 18: the boss of the Reserve Bank, Michelle Bullock, I like

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Speaker 18: this woman more every time I see her. I like

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Speaker 18: her more she's absolutely straight down the line. She just

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Speaker 18: tells it like she sees it, and she's completely independent

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Speaker 18: of government, so wonvertide any political party has a crack

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Speaker 18: at her, she'll just pull their nose off. She basically

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Speaker 18: told the Senate estimates the economy is very, very weak,

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Speaker 18: especially many households in small business are cutting their spending,

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Speaker 18: but the labor market is still going well.

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Speaker 12: So what does all this mean?

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Speaker 18: Which says the economy is on track for a soft landing.

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Speaker 18: The economy will slow enough to beat inflation, but we'll

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Speaker 18: still have decent jobs growth, and that, she says, is

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Speaker 18: the key.

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Speaker 12: But the blunt warning. Listen, we'll pull the.

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Speaker 18: Trigger on interest rates again if necessary if inflation hangs

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Speaker 18: around where we don't like it. They want it down

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Speaker 18: between two and three percent. It continues to be up

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Speaker 18: around the four percent mark, and she's not happy.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's interesting, isn't it. It's still still threatening to

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Speaker 3: pull the trigger if they need. Thanks for your time, Murray,

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Speaker 3: that's Australia correspondent Murray olds. So the picture isn't any

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Speaker 3: better here, of course. I see today that Infometrics have

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Speaker 3: upgraded their forecasts that they were previously expecting the Reserve

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Speaker 3: Bank to begin cutting rates at the end of this year.

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Speaker 3: They've now pushed that forecast back for the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: not cutting rates until February of next year. They stayed

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Speaker 3: the still of ten percent chance that the RBNZ will

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Speaker 3: increase rates as well. So we're going to catch up

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Speaker 3: with the Chief economist Brad Alson very soon. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's seventy to five Politics.

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Speaker 3: Be senior political corresponding Barry Soapers here in studio, Kylder Barry.

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Speaker 12: Good evening, Jack.

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Speaker 3: It is going to be easier to get X rays

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Speaker 3: et cetera, which is going to come as a massive

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Speaker 3: relief for a lot of people.

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Speaker 19: Oh, I think so absolutely. It won't only be X rays,

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Speaker 19: be CT scans and ultrasounds, and it'll be across New Zealand.

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Speaker 19: The biggest problem really has been in the provinces at

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Speaker 19: the moment. What has to happen is that you've got

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Speaker 19: to go to a specialist to be referred to get

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Speaker 19: an X ray, a CT scan or an ultrasound, which

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Speaker 19: can you can imagine the.

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Speaker 3: Length of time that can comes up the works doesn't

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Speaker 3: it well, it does, and GPS.

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Speaker 19: Are perfectly able to refer somebody, say, for an example,

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Speaker 19: on X ray, and you know they then by the

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Speaker 19: time he gets to the specialist, they've got a very

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Speaker 19: good case in point.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you know, I've had a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Experience theoretical area.

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Speaker 19: Recently, I walked in essentially off the street the other

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Speaker 19: day and had an X rays due to have one,

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Speaker 19: but there was no problem game a health number and

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Speaker 19: got one. In a city like Auckland, it's not altogether

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Speaker 19: that difficult, but it's in the provinces that is a

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Speaker 19: real concern. And you'll be aware of this.

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Speaker 12: Jack.

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Speaker 19: Next week it's Men's Health Week, and that's really important.

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Speaker 19: All men should take much more care of their health.

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Speaker 19: And one of the medics that has been dealing with me,

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Speaker 19: he said, what should happen with men is that like

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Speaker 19: you have to take your car for a warrant of

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Speaker 19: fitness every year, men should It should be compulsory in

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Speaker 19: New Zealand for men at fifty to have blood you know,

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Speaker 19: blood pressure tests, listen to the heart and if it

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Speaker 19: was compulsory, you wouldn't have the problems that you have.

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Speaker 3: Further down the track, I'm not going to post that idea.

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Speaker 19: I mean you can imagine, imagine the civil libertaria. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: they would go crazy and say no, you can't do that.

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Speaker 12: You're imposing it, you know.

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Speaker 3: But if you want your free healthcare, then you've got

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Speaker 3: to do your but go and get a warrant fitness. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Christopher Luxen is not ruling out a larger inquiry into

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Speaker 3: Tiparty Marty. He's got to be careful with this stuff

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Speaker 3: himself though, just over any only perception of any you know,

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Speaker 3: of benefiting politically from any of this. And I think

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Speaker 3: he's played perfectly fine from now.

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Speaker 19: Yes, no, And this is an extraordinarily serious issue that

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Speaker 19: not only has possibly acts been broken, therefore the laws

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Speaker 19: been broken, but the sanctity of your senses. When you

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Speaker 19: fill out your senses form, you fill out a lot

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Speaker 19: of very personal information. Now this has been photocopied as

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Speaker 19: the allegations are by the Mudd Eye that the successful

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Speaker 19: multi party candidate was the chief executive of and used

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Speaker 19: for political purposes and similarly for COVID immunization. If material

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Speaker 19: has been used for that, then it is very serious. Indeed,

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Speaker 19: we know that Stat's New Zealand is having a look

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Speaker 19: at it. Complaint has been laid with the police, but

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Speaker 19: to my mind, should take a bigger inquire than that,

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Speaker 19: because yeah, we're not only looking at possible criminality here,

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Speaker 19: we're looking at major privacy issues, and really I think

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Speaker 19: they shouldn't be looked at very careful.

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Speaker 3: Important to point out, of course, they have denied all

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Speaker 3: allegations of wrongdoing so far to Party Mahdi, the candidates,

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Speaker 3: John Tummerheaty, et cetera. I mean, the point I made

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Speaker 3: just after four o'clock was in terms of a larger inquiry,

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Speaker 3: it's in the interests of the public, the voting public,

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Speaker 3: but also for those people at the center of these allegations.

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Speaker 3: You would think to be to be clear if that

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Speaker 3: you know they are they say there are one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent innocent of any of any wrongdoing. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 3: would think that, you know, maybe it would be in

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Speaker 3: their interests given these allegations as well, the potholes are

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Speaker 3: going to be fixed.

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, it's incredible, and you know they're going

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Speaker 19: to spend really totally about four billions more bucks. I

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Speaker 19: was amazed that somebody has obviously gone around and counted

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Speaker 19: the potholes, because in New Zealand. We had apparently last

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Speaker 19: year sixty two thousand potholes.

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Speaker 1: Do it around the country?

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Speaker 3: Really know, they can use AI for some of us.

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Speaker 3: I know they've been using this recently. What they put

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Speaker 3: a camera on the front of the car and then

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Speaker 3: they drive along on the and the camera works out

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Speaker 3: what's a pothole and we.

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Speaker 8: Know we've got a poto exactly.

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Speaker 19: You know, it really is a problem in New Zealand.

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Speaker 19: I don't know how much you drive, but you know

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Speaker 19: I drive reasonable amount on open roads and you do

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Speaker 19: have clangers every now and then. But do you know

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Speaker 19: I was thinking when we were talking about potholes. The

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Speaker 19: worst country in the world that I've experienced for potholes.

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Speaker 19: It's where Chris Luxen is at the moment are in

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Speaker 19: the Pacific and Fiji. And I remember many many years

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Speaker 19: ago going to the first coup when the current Prime

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Speaker 19: minister there said to be around Booker had taken the

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Speaker 19: place over at gunpoint and I had to get from

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Speaker 19: Nandy to Suva in a big rush because the coup

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Speaker 19: had just occurred. I'll tell you what, it was a

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Speaker 19: hell of a job to get there. Potholes everywhere the

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Speaker 19: roads have been looked at for many, many years, and

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Speaker 19: we can't get into a situation in this country. People

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Speaker 19: do complain every time they've gotten drive on the open roads.

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Speaker 19: So I say good luck to the government, get in

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Speaker 19: there and fill in these bloody potholes.

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Speaker 3: Very good, thank you for your time. That is very sober.

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Speaker 3: So regarding the pothole allocations, it's interesting with one of

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Speaker 3: the two billion dollar funds that are going to be

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Speaker 3: contributing to the pothole fix ups. So they've broken everything

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Speaker 3: down by region so you can see where the most

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Speaker 3: money's going. You can see how much compared to the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four allocation, the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty twenty seven allocation has increased. Few

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Speaker 3: interesting numbers in there. Okay, So, for example, the region

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Speaker 3: that has seen the least increase for the next three

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Speaker 3: years in terms of its funding under this fund Marlborough, Right,

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Speaker 3: They've got twenty one million dollars over the next three

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Speaker 3: years and that's a twenty seven percent increase. But compare

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Speaker 3: that with next door in Nelson an eighty three percent increase.

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Speaker 4: So what is it?

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Speaker 3: Are the roads in Nelson that much worse than they

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Speaker 3: are in Marlborough. Here's the thing though Nelson's funding it's

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Speaker 3: seven million dollars, so seven million versus twenty one million

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Speaker 3: in Marlborough. So that would suggest that maybe the roads

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Speaker 3: of worse and Marlborough. Anyway, we'll put all of this

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Speaker 3: to the Transport Minister. Simeon Brown is going to be

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Speaker 3: with us right after the five o'clock news this evening.

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Speaker 3: Right now it is eight minutes to five.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking

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Speaker 2: breakfast and.

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Speaker 20: More allegations against the Maori Party over the misuse of

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Speaker 20: private information to influence the election campaign. Ellen Hults is

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Speaker 20: an employment advocate representing six former Maria staff and one

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Speaker 20: MSD worker who laid these complaints, and he's with us

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Speaker 20: hand on heart. You have seen evidence that, without a

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Speaker 20: shadow of a doubt, is in breach of something, whether

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Speaker 20: it be the law or the rules.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely hand on that. I can say that my real

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Speaker 14: concern is MFT basically funded the election campaign run by

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Speaker 14: the former chief consecutive form the ria's Income Steps New Zealand.

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Speaker 14: They were advised early on issues here and dislike what

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Speaker 14: they say, didn't investigate and the same with the Electoral Commission.

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Speaker 20: Back tomorrow at six am The Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 20: the rain Drovers, Sport News Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for you text and emails. We've

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Speaker 3: had so much feedback come over the last wee while,

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Speaker 3: including this. This is a very good point, Jack, do

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Speaker 3: the maths. You got your four billion dollars right for

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Speaker 3: your potholes? Sixty two thousand potholes Barry soaper reckens across

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Speaker 3: the country. That means we're talking about sixty four thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars per pothole. That can't be right. I mean that

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Speaker 3: maths works out, That maths definitely works out. Sure we

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Speaker 3: must have this wrong. There must be more than sixty

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Speaker 3: two thousand potholes, right, Okay, we'll hang on a second

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Speaker 3: four billion dollars across three years. So if we go

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Speaker 3: so sixty two thousand potholes, let's triple that then so

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Speaker 3: that's still or divide it by three. You're still talking

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Speaker 3: about twenty thousand dollars per pothole. It seems like a

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Speaker 3: lot of money. Don't you think We will ask the

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Speaker 3: Transport Minister to me and Brown about that. If you're

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Speaker 3: wondering about the regions which are having the most money

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Speaker 3: allocated through one of the big funds, one of the

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Speaker 3: two billion dollar funds over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Auckland's top of the pops. Canterbury isn't too far behind way.

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Speaker 3: Actually it is a long way behind it, but it

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Speaker 3: comes in second third place. Y Cuttle's done pretty well

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Speaker 3: as well. Two hundred million dollars dedicated for y Cuttle,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty eight million for Canterbury, four hundred

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Speaker 3: and seventy eight million for Auckland. As well as catching

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Speaker 3: up with the Transport ministraft. Of five o'clock, we're going

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Speaker 3: to tell you about the breakthrough that scientists in the

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Speaker 3: could soon be introduced as a male contraceptive. They've been

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Speaker 3: testing it. It's past all the tests, they're getting great results.

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Speaker 3: They say, we're going to catch up with one of

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Speaker 3: the researchers who tells us how it works and how

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Speaker 3: men apply it. And I think this is the big problem.

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Speaker 3: It might work even if it was fail safe. Could

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Speaker 3: we really rely on men to use a contraceptive if

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Speaker 3: you had to rub on some gel every single day? Really?

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Speaker 3: Could we rely on men to do that. I wonder

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Speaker 3: how much that has factored into the research. We'll ask

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Speaker 3: that research and when he joins us after five, News

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Speaker 3: is next, though it's almost five. I'm Jack Tay and

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Speaker 3: this is Newstalk z be.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Jack tam on Heather due to ce allan drive with

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand. Let's get connected News.

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Speaker 12: Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: The pothole Police is coming to a place near you.

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Speaker 3: That's the promise from the Transport Minister today. Simon Brown

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Speaker 3: says almost four billion dollars in total will be spent

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Speaker 3: on pothole prevention and repair on state highways and local

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Speaker 3: roads over the next three years. The biggest local roads

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Speaker 3: winners by region are Auckland almost half a billion dollars alone,

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Speaker 3: Why Cut on more than two hundred million, Canterbury one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty eight million, in Northland on one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty million. Simon Brown is the Transport Minister and

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Speaker 3: it is with us this evening and good evening Minister,

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Jack. So what is the money actually going

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Speaker 3: to be spent on?

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Speaker 21: Well, if it the pothole prevention funds. It's going to

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Speaker 21: go into those activities focused on preventing potholes from performing

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Speaker 21: in the first place. That's resealing the road, it's rehabilitating,

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Speaker 21: which means digging it up and renewing the pavement. And

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Speaker 21: it's the important drainage where that's required along the sides

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Speaker 21: of the roads to stop water getting into the roading

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Speaker 21: surface and causing potholes to form. So this is about

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Speaker 21: preventing potholes. It's about resealing the roads. It's about making

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Speaker 21: sure that we can get keys where they need to

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Speaker 21: go quickly and safely.

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Speaker 3: To be totally clear, is it also about repairing the potholes.

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Speaker 21: Well, look absolutely, but the real focus here is preventing them. Oftenately,

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Speaker 21: that's what we need to be doing, is preventing them.

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Speaker 21: That's the resealing of the roads, rehabilitating them. Yes, we

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Speaker 21: do also need to make sure when potholes do form

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Speaker 21: that we get out there quickly and also make sure

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Speaker 21: that they are repaired in a timely fashion to keep

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Speaker 21: motorists safe on the roads. But the real focus here

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Speaker 21: is on those really core activities which we want the

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Speaker 21: MZTA and local councils focused on, which is resealing, rehabilitating

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Speaker 21: and getting that water out of the roads by investing

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Speaker 21: in the drainage to protect that asset and keep using

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Speaker 21: on the safe.

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Speaker 12: On the roads.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everyone can see that it makes a

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Speaker 3: lot of sense to actually invest in the things that

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Speaker 3: prevent them the potholes from forming in the first place.

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Speaker 3: So last year you reckon sixty two thousand potholes. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand had our highest number in ten years. How do

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Speaker 3: they work that out?

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Speaker 21: Well, that was how many were recorded by MZTA is

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Speaker 21: needing to be repaired on the state highway network last year,

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Speaker 21: So their contractors are obviously out there all the time

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Speaker 21: fixing the roads and getting fixing potholes as quickly as

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Speaker 21: they can. That was the record number last year, and

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Speaker 21: that shows that the fact is that we've got a

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Speaker 21: growing number of potholes in the road, which means we're

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Speaker 21: not doing a good enough job of actually resealing, rehabilitating

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Speaker 21: and doing the drainage work to prevent them from forming

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Speaker 21: in the first place. So that's why the focus here

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Speaker 21: is ring fencing this fund into those activities which prevent

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Speaker 21: those potholes from forming and to make sure our roads

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Speaker 21: are safe to drive on.

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Speaker 3: So what information informed decisions around which regions got the

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Speaker 3: biggest increase in their allocated funding.

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Speaker 21: Well, ultimately the New Zealand Transport Agencies Board makes these decisions.

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Speaker 21: They are responsible for looking at the asset management plans

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Speaker 21: councils and the agency puts forward and working out where

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Speaker 21: the need is and then allocating the funds according to

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Speaker 21: that need. So that's the agency's board. They look through

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Speaker 21: the asset management plans, they test it, they look at

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Speaker 21: what's been required in the past, what the issues are

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Speaker 21: that are happening, and then they make those allocations based

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Speaker 21: on that evidence.

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Speaker 3: So describe to us the state of New Zealand's roads

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Speaker 3: three years from now.

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Speaker 21: Well, ultimately it's about making sure we've got a greater

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Speaker 21: number of kilometers of road being resealed each year and

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Speaker 21: rehabilitated each year. More investment in the drainage will which

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Speaker 21: will see a reduction in the number of potholes on

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Speaker 21: our roads, safer to drive on. And ultimately it's about

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Speaker 21: good asset management. That's what it comes down to. We

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Speaker 21: haven't been doing good asset management in recent years. We've

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Speaker 21: taken the eye off the ball and it's about making

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Speaker 21: sure there's a clear pipeline for agency and local council

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Speaker 21: to invest in that core business of protecting that asset

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Speaker 21: and making sure it's safe to drive on for New Zealanders.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time this evening. We appreciate it, Transport

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Speaker 3: Minister Simeon Brown. Jack team, the Taxpayers Union wants the

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Speaker 3: Privacy Commissioner to launch a four normal investigation into alleged

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Speaker 3: misuse of census data and vaccination data for election campaigning

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Speaker 3: by to Party Maudi John Tammahiti and the party deny

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Speaker 3: all allegations. Stats n Z and Police are already investigating

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Speaker 3: aspects of the alleged breaches, and this morning, Employment Representative

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Speaker 3: Alan Holtz suggested on Mike Coskins Breakfast that various agencies

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Speaker 3: were told of census data breaches but failed to act.

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Speaker 3: Executive Director of the Taxpayer's Union, Jordan Williams.

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Speaker 11: Is with us.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, Good evening, Jack.

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Speaker 3: Why is the Privacy Commissioner the right one to look

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Speaker 3: into all of this?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 22: Earlier this week we called for the government to create

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Speaker 22: a public inquiry under the Inquiries Act because there for

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Speaker 22: two reasons. The first is that is it correct, as

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Speaker 22: was suggested this morning on Mike Coskins Show with the

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Speaker 22: interview with the Employment Advocate. Now that there have been

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Speaker 22: numerous whistleblowers that have gone to the agency with that

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Speaker 22: semest with that status zeal And with that the Electoral Commission,

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Speaker 22: and maybe these allegations, it's not appropriate for those same

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Speaker 22: agencies to be managing or running or even commissioning independent

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Speaker 22: reviews into what's going on because at the end of

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Speaker 22: the day, part of that review has to be how

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Speaker 22: those whistleblowers were treated. Particularly our concern is around that

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Speaker 22: censors stats in z data. The second point is that

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Speaker 22: even if you have the independence of the review and

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Speaker 22: it's set up with the right terms of reference to

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Speaker 22: include the way officials handled it, they don't have the

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Speaker 22: powers that a government at a public inquiry or the

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Speaker 22: Privacy Commissioner has, and that is to be able to

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Speaker 22: require the production of documents and information and subpoena third

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Speaker 22: parties and interview them under oath, because that is essential

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Speaker 22: if we're going to find out what has happened, because

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Speaker 22: at the end of the day, this information is not

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Speaker 22: in the government's hands. It's allegedly it's these you know,

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Speaker 22: contracted parties to assist with the censors, et cetera. You know,

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Speaker 22: that's where the information is. And only by having an

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Speaker 22: investigation that includes the ability to be able to call

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Speaker 22: them before interview the oath, are we going to find

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Speaker 22: out what really happened with some public confidence.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it's a combination of the independence that would

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Speaker 3: come with having the Privacy Commissioner, but also the Privacy

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Speaker 3: Commissioner's powers to to compel evidence, to interview people under oath,

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. So what would there what?

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Speaker 4: Sorry?

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Speaker 22: And it is powerful, I mean that it is unusual

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Speaker 22: powers unusual in New Zealand to be able to you know,

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Speaker 22: it's it's the level of powers that almost the level

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Speaker 22: that the Serious Fraud Office has. But because of this data,

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Speaker 22: it is the most important from a from a you know,

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Speaker 22: taxpayers perspective, public policy perspective, the census is so core

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Speaker 22: function of government and most importantly the public having confidence

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Speaker 22: that that data is protected. We think this does meet

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Speaker 22: that threshold for the Privacy Commissioner to use those powers

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Speaker 22: and take a good look and report back to the

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Speaker 22: public either way, so that we can have confidence in

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Speaker 22: the process.

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Speaker 3: I mean important to point out, like I said, earlier.

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Speaker 3: John Tammerhitti and the party deny all allegations. So far

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Speaker 3: they haven't made other public comments. But would it also

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Speaker 3: be in the interests of those parties, given they claim

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Speaker 3: they are innocent of any wrongdoing in this case, to

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Speaker 3: also have the illumination that might come with the Privacy

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Speaker 3: Commissioner overseeing an inquiry.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 22: I think that the risks being the perception of something

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Speaker 22: being political or perhaps the official is not wanting to

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Speaker 22: get to the bottom of it if it has been.

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Speaker 22: The degree of this is all too hard to go away.

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Speaker 22: I think that it is in everyone's interest, including John Tammerherry,

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Speaker 22: the Maori Party and the associated entities, to have the

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Speaker 22: independence and clarity that I think, as I say, only

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Speaker 22: a public inquiry or the Privacy Commissioner can provide. And

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Speaker 22: I think that given the and probably rightly the unwillingness

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Speaker 22: of the government to set up an inquiry when it

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Speaker 22: involves a party in the opposition or an opposition party,

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Speaker 22: I think again all rows of lead back to the

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Speaker 22: Privacy Commissioner's office and this being the appropriate circumstances for

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Speaker 22: him to launcher an investigation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time.

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Speaker 12: This evening.

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Speaker 3: That is Jordan Williams, the executive director of the Taxpayers Union.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for feedback as well. He to text pouring in

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Speaker 3: our yas is Anthony. Yeah, Jack, more road cones.

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Speaker 8: This is the thing.

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Speaker 3: The same people moaning about the potholes are going to

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Speaker 3: be moaning about road cones before you know it. Jack,

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Speaker 3: You know what this means. Four billion dollars are standing

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Speaker 1: Good to be talking with you, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: How does the gel work?

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Speaker 23: You know, start from the top. Basically, it's very similar

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Speaker 23: to female hormonal contraceptive methods, and one of the best

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Speaker 23: things about that is that we have so much experience

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Speaker 23: with female hormonal contraceptives that we're very confident about the

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Speaker 23: safety universability of male contraceptions. So essentially, the hormones give

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Speaker 23: a signal up to the brain telling them bring to

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Speaker 23: send signals down to the testes to stop the production

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Speaker 23: of UH sperm. And what that means is that the

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Speaker 23: entire factory is left intact. You're just telling the factory

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Speaker 23: to stop the production. And that's basically it. So UH,

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Speaker 23: these hormones, over the course of several weeks, UH in

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Speaker 23: this case about you know, four to eight weeks, are

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Speaker 23: able to suppress sperm down to you know, in many

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Speaker 23: cases zero or what we call our criteria for male interceptions,

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Speaker 23: which is at a million.

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Speaker 3: How does the application work? Why DoD? Why do mean

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Speaker 3: rub the gel on these shoulders of all places?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, in.

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Speaker 23: Thinking about you know, places to apply the gel, we're

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Speaker 23: really thinking about how to avoid transference of the gel

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Speaker 23: to uh, you know, a child or sexual partner. And

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Speaker 23: so the shoulder seems like a really easy to access

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Speaker 23: but also low transference risk area.

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Speaker 3: And in terms of effectiveness, how does it compare to say,

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Speaker 3: a female contraceptive pill.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it's a good question, right there. Are our trial

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Speaker 23: is not necessarily like a head to head trial at

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Speaker 23: this point, and we can't necessarily release the results of

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Speaker 23: the prenancy prevention aspect of the trial. But we are

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Speaker 23: very encouraged. We actually think that there are many aspects

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Speaker 23: that are going to make this better than female hormoral contraceptives.

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Speaker 3: Are there any side effects?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, with all hormonal methods, we do expect sid effects,

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Speaker 23: and in this case we're thinking about acne, weight gain,

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Speaker 23: mood changes, libido changes. But again, when I say libido changes, right,

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Speaker 23: that means it.

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Speaker 1: Can go up or down. Yeah, and we've had you know,

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Speaker 1: very you know, positive.

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Speaker 23: You know, feedback from our participants.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How likely is it then, that you know, we might

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Speaker 3: see this on the market sometime soon?

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Speaker 23: You know, people always talk about this whole five to

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Speaker 23: ten year timeline. But if anything that that COVID has

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Speaker 23: taught me is that, you know, with enough will of

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Speaker 23: the people and enough need, you can speed things up

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Speaker 23: quite fast. So I'm relying on folks like you to

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Speaker 23: spread the word.

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Speaker 1: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Guys are going to be into it? You know, Like

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Speaker 3: I don't want to cast dispersions over forty nine point

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Speaker 3: nine seven percent of our population, But you know, something

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Speaker 3: just tells me that from a kind of attitude perspective,

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Speaker 3: men might be slightly less responsible on this front.

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Speaker 23: You know, it's interesting, you know, for female contraception, we

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Speaker 23: don't necessarily expect all women to want to use it either,

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Speaker 23: and so to expect that a large swath of men

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Speaker 23: are going to want to use it, it's kind of

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Speaker 23: sitting in the bar a bit too high. But what

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Speaker 23: does matter, though, right, is that there are men who

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Speaker 23: are in committed relationships who have seen their female partners

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Speaker 23: in dure side effects or just furious acts issues with contraception,

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Speaker 23: and therefore they want to step in. And not to

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Speaker 23: mention that there are men who you know, are more

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Speaker 23: and more concerned about their own assets and want to

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Speaker 23: be able to avoid the risk of unplanned pregnancy as well.

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Speaker 23: You stn't hear about it very much until it's too leap.

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Speaker 3: Now, hey, thank you so much, Brian. We will watch

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Speaker 3: this space with keen interest, no doubt. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: That is Dr Brian Dowing. Thanks Brian. There's doctor Brian

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Speaker 3: Newan who's one of the researchers at the University of

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Speaker 3: Southern California behind this new gaeil. We are all learning,

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Speaker 3: aren't we. Twenty four past five.

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Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers, you need,

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Speaker 2: Jack tame On, Heather Duplice, Alan Drive with one New Zealand,

953
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Speaker 2: let's get connected and news talk as they'd.

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Speaker 3: Be another day. Another broken campaign promise. That is what

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Speaker 3: reporting from Richard Harmon and Politic suggest today after the

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Speaker 3: government broke National's campaign promise to fund fifty places for

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Speaker 3: student doctors at the Otago and Auckland med schools in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five next year. So despite the pledge in

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Speaker 3: the past his election manifesto, and it really couldn't have

960
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Speaker 3: been clearer here go National will also increase the number

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Speaker 3: of medical student placements at Auckland and Otago by a

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Speaker 3: total of fifty from twenty twenty five. It's a direct quote,

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Speaker 3: despite that pledge, despite the medical doctors not spin doctors

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Speaker 3: promised throughout the campaign, just half of those fifty places,

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Speaker 3: just twenty five places have actually been funded for next year.

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Speaker 3: So why well? Speaking to Politics, Shane that he blamed

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Speaker 3: capacity problems, but then both Otago and Auckland unis say

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Speaker 3: they do have the capacity between them to take on

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Speaker 3: more students and they'd been expecting fifty more places. The

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Speaker 3: problem is surely not money. Despite the tight fiscal environment

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Speaker 3: it would have cost about another half a million dollars

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Speaker 3: to fund the places, which you would think, given our

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Speaker 3: desperate shortage of doctors, would have been money well spent.

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Speaker 3: Ockham's raiser therefore leads us to National's proposal to establish

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Speaker 3: a new medical school at Wycuttle University. That was a

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Speaker 3: campaign promised, despite critics suggesting the capital costs of establishing

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Speaker 3: that school don't really make it worthwhile compared to simply

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Speaker 3: boosting Otago and Auckland. Here's the thing, though, truthfully, in

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Speaker 3: the eyes of the voting public, no reason, context or

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Speaker 3: excuse is going to justify not funding more doctors when

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Speaker 3: the medical schools say they have the capacity to train them. Doctors,

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Speaker 3: police officers are cancer drugs. If you promise the stuff

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Speaker 3: during a campaign, it has to be the absolute priority

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Speaker 3: when you're in government to deliver. But add the training

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Speaker 3: places to the cancer drugs and I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: the government seriously risks a reputation for failing to deliver.

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Speaker 1: Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: We will ask doctor Shane Vetti when he joins us

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Speaker 3: very shortly about that. As well as the governments announcement

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Speaker 3: today they're going to continue to fund free rat tests

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Speaker 3: at least through to the end of September. They're currently

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Speaker 3: expecting a bit of a surge in COVID cases so

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Speaker 3: they can continue to fund those free rat tests. Will

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Speaker 3: ask him how long for as well as that the

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Speaker 3: Huddle will be with us this evening. Last about the

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Speaker 3: male contracepting pill or male contraceptive, it's not getting a

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Speaker 3: lot of support on the text machine, Jack, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: trust men to take those, not for a moment. I'm

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Speaker 3: a woman, and I forget myself but me, and that'd

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Speaker 3: be worse on your.

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Speaker 1: Smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your car

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Speaker 1: on your drive home.

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Speaker 2: It's Jack tame on, Heather Duplicy allan drive with one

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Speaker 2: New Zealand let's get connected, news Talk said, be me.

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Speaker 22: Can we running?

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Speaker 3: But spat me New Stalks, Be you were, Jack Taman

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Speaker 3: for Heather Duplicity Allen, she's gone off to party the

1008
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Speaker 3: radio awards along with most of our colleagues News Talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be up for gazillions of awards tonight. So fingers

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Speaker 3: are very much firmly crossed for our colleagues. I know

1011
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Speaker 3: it won't take much success tonight for them to enjoy

1012
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Speaker 3: some robust celebrations after six o'clock this evening. Back to

1013
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Speaker 3: the future for B and Z. Really interesting news today

1014
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Speaker 3: the bank has announced all of its branches, all of

1015
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Speaker 3: them are going to be opening at least five days

1016
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Speaker 3: a week by about the middle of next year. Apparently

1017
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Speaker 3: this is in response to increasing customer demand to have

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Speaker 3: face to face interactions as opposed to doing things over

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Speaker 3: over the phone of a call centers, over the internet,

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing. So we're going to take a

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Speaker 3: look at that. We'll last huddle about that before six

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Speaker 3: o'clock this evening. Tim Wilson and Mike Munroe are huddlers

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Speaker 3: right now. It is twenty two minutes to six, Jack Team,

1024
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Speaker 3: and the government's buying up more COVID tests so we

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Speaker 3: can keep getting them for free. Rapid antigen tests RAT

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Speaker 3: tests will continue to be supplied to the public for

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Speaker 3: free until the end of September. At this stage, the

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Speaker 3: new rats will be bought with existing COVID nineteen response money.

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Speaker 3: Shane Betti is the Health Minister and he's with us now.

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Speaker 24: Keilder now, Greg Ja, very good to speak with you again.

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Speaker 3: Why do we need to keep handing out free RAT tests?

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Speaker 24: Look, I know overseas they have had a co payment

1033
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Speaker 24: put on rat test, But just at this point in time,

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Speaker 24: we think if we were to move to that that

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Speaker 24: would need a more of a transition period than we

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Speaker 24: have the luxury for at the moment where we've still

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Speaker 24: got some rising rates of COVID. So the announcement we've

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Speaker 24: made today is certainly through the winter period and we

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Speaker 24: know we're at the greatest risk, will continue to maintain

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Speaker 24: the eligibility that we have for free rat tests.

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Speaker 3: Is there evidence that people are actually using the free

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Speaker 3: rat tests?

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Speaker 24: Look as I have seen some evidence of supply, I say,

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Speaker 24: you know of demand of people actually commenting that there

1045
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Speaker 24: can be some supplies shoes because the demand has been high.

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Speaker 24: So the answer to that is yes, as far as

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Speaker 24: I can tell, certainly it seems that people are benefiting

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Speaker 24: from the from the free rat test.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right. Are people testing as regularly as they should

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Speaker 3: be generally.

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Speaker 24: A little bits of an interesting question. I don't have

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Speaker 24: any evidence for them, but I do sense there is

1053
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Speaker 24: certainly an appetite for New Zealanders to know if these

1054
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Speaker 24: symptoms they've got a COVID related or not, because I

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Speaker 24: do believe they want to do the right thing and

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Speaker 24: follow the isolation recommendations if they are. So that's every

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Speaker 24: sense that I get.

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Speaker 3: So this funding goes through to the end of September,

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Speaker 3: so that'll cover us for most of winter. If COVID

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Speaker 3: cases are still tracking pretty high at that point, will

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Speaker 3: you continue to fund free tests?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, we'll have to review that. Then, as you say,

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Speaker 24: we want to get through this at risk period. What

1064
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Speaker 24: we know is that it's by modeal two peaks peak

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Speaker 24: of mid year and end of year. It maintains its

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Speaker 24: normal patterns, So this will pay through the September, which,

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Speaker 24: if it follows its last history, would mean we'd be

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Speaker 24: in a trough by a low incident area. So we'll

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Speaker 24: we review that when we get to that point.

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Speaker 3: How much is this going to cost US?

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Speaker 24: Ten million dollars ten million?

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Speaker 3: You're spending thirty million on increasing access to radiology services

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Speaker 3: as well. Just give us a bit of detailed there.

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Speaker 3: What's actually were the money going?

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Speaker 11: What it mean?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, So what this will do is it will mean

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Speaker 24: GPS will be able to order ultrasound and CT scans.

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Speaker 24: And what this means is if there's no capacity in

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Speaker 24: the public health system and the required timeline for those

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Speaker 24: cts or ultrasound. Then they'll be referred to private radiology

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Speaker 24: at no cost to the patient. This will have a

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Speaker 24: huge range of outcomes. First of all, people will be

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Speaker 24: able to see specialists with a more definitive diagnosis in

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Speaker 24: their hands. Secondly, they'll have some reassurance. But even before

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Speaker 24: they get to the specialist, because there was a bit

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Speaker 24: of a wait time to get the first specialist assessment,

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Speaker 24: the GP will already have a presumptive diagnosis subsequent to

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Speaker 24: that radiology. And of course when they get to the specialist,

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Speaker 24: they've got the information in hand. Because what often happens

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Speaker 24: at the moment unfortunately, and a good example is ballstones

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Speaker 24: or kidney stones. I suppose the same is you're referred

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Speaker 24: to the specialist, you wait the first specialist assessment. Time

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Speaker 24: you get there, he or she says, I think it's fullstones,

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Speaker 24: go in and have an ultrasound or a CT. So

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Speaker 24: you go back into the system, cycle back through, turnback

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Speaker 24: of the first business assessment or second it would be

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Speaker 24: with the result in your hand. Well, if we can

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Speaker 24: cut out one of those, and that's backing and trusting

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Speaker 24: GPS to have that expertise and knowledge how to make

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Speaker 24: this call and the algorithms will help with it. Turn

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Speaker 24: up your first vicious assessment with your presumptive diagnosis and

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Speaker 24: your X rays in your hand, it's a much smoother pathway.

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Speaker 3: Minister, heading into the election, National promised fifty new places

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Speaker 3: for students at med schools next year. You're only funding

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Speaker 3: twenty five.

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Speaker 11: Why is that?

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Speaker 24: It's our intention to fund the rest of them over

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Speaker 24: following budget cycles, but we just didn't have enough in

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Speaker 24: help to do everything we needed to do once we

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Speaker 24: confronted the one point seven seven billion farmat Cliff. That

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Speaker 24: took a lot of funds out of the system and

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Speaker 24: we needed to do that clearly, and so we were

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Speaker 24: able to fund a half of verse fifty and we'll

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Speaker 24: be looking to fund the remainder of the following budget cycles.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be an absolute priority to boost our doctor stocks.

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Speaker 24: Yes, it would, but as we've said before, this is

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Speaker 24: a seven to ten year plan. If we startop at

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Speaker 24: metsicol seventy ten years before they're going to come out

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Speaker 24: of the other end. Whereas working on the retention, there

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Speaker 24: are some immigration things we can do. Those are the

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Speaker 24: here and now issues that we have for doctor stock,

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Speaker 24: but we sort of wanted to have the best of both.

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Speaker 24: Grow the long term homegrown domestic pipeline a bit of

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Speaker 24: the same breast. Look at these other other ways to

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Speaker 24: manage our doctors.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks for your time this evening. That is

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Speaker 3: Health Minister Shane Bretty.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty unparalleled reach

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Speaker 2: and results.

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Speaker 3: On the huddle this evening. The director at Mike Munroe Communications,

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Speaker 3: former staffer and Sindra Ardern and Hall and Clark's officers

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Speaker 3: Mike Munroe and Tim Wilson of the Maxim Institute, Kelder Kordawa.

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Speaker 3: Let's start off with the funding for doctors. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I just I find it remarkable. I get it. We're

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Speaker 3: not going to have those doctors for seven to ten

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Speaker 3: years until they've finished their training. But given that cost

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Speaker 3: would be about half a million dollars in the context

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Speaker 3: of government expenditure, given the problems we're facing with the

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Speaker 3: health workforce at the moment, aren't you surprised that that

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Speaker 3: is the higher priority?

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Speaker 4: Tim?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I am, I am.

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Speaker 25: It is a broken promise. It's clear that it's a

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Speaker 25: broken promise, but in the context of things, it seems

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Speaker 25: like a small promise. It's a bit like going to

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Speaker 25: macers and you're saying everyone gets a big mac. Well, actually, no,

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Speaker 25: you're going to get a mcfeast. It's probably not the

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Speaker 25: end of the world on the on the scale of things,

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Speaker 25: but it does fill out a narrative that you're alluding

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Speaker 25: to a check, which is the series of broken promises.

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Speaker 25: And I sort of think about the COVID test that

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Speaker 25: you also talked with doctor Vessi about. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 25: that's nine million bucks. You think you could take some

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Speaker 25: free COVID tests and I don't know, directed towards the doctors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is a broken

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Speaker 3: promise and that's pretty clear. But maybe of more concern

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Speaker 3: is that we're not actually just funding another twenty five

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Speaker 3: people to become doctors. Because I get it, maybe some

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Speaker 3: of the short term short falls will be made up

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Speaker 3: by improving the workforce with doctors from overseas and that

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Speaker 3: kind of thing. MKE, but surely we want to actually

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Speaker 3: be building our Capaca city as much as we can

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Speaker 3: for the future.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree, Jack. The shortfall numbers are alarming. The

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Speaker 10: last lot I saw was talking about one thousand, seven

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Speaker 10: hundred short for that was in March this year. That's

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Speaker 10: expected to double or projected to double within the six

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Speaker 10: or eight years. Look, fifty doctors is not a lot,

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Speaker 10: but we do need everything we can get right now.

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Speaker 10: And I can't believe that they the university's concerned, they

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Speaker 10: about the space to accommodate extra trainees, So I can't

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Speaker 10: believe that they wouldn't put the money into this. But

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Speaker 10: the other problems on the lines of me too, is

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Speaker 10: just a mess of mate of the arithmetic around arithmetic,

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Speaker 10: around the budget. You know, I heard really say before

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Speaker 10: that they just don't have enough this excycle well for

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Speaker 10: cancer drugs hider and it comes back to the reckless

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Speaker 10: promises they made in opposition about what they do in government.

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Speaker 10: And now you know, chickens are coming home to roost

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Speaker 10: much latest example.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, clearly there are some fiscal pretty significant

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Speaker 3: fiscal pressures. But still for any government of the day,

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Speaker 3: it's all a question of choices, right, does the government

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Speaker 3: really need to be providing free COVID test Mike.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I think that can be justified. I mean,

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Speaker 10: COVID has still a major issue for the country. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: and we've just experienced our highest peak since twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 10: six thousand. I look, I've been reported every week. You know,

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Speaker 10: it is still serious, and I think we're going to

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Speaker 10: keep you shoulder the wheel of that one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Tim, can I can?

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Speaker 12: I just can?

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Speaker 25: I sided a bit jumpy there. Look, do you guys

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Speaker 25: know how much a five pack of COVID testers at

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Speaker 25: the chemist warehouse?

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Speaker 3: Like eleven bucks something like that?

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Speaker 25: Seventeen bucks? So you're looking at seventeen bucks.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty expensive, is it not?

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Speaker 25: I mean, is it really?

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Speaker 4: But I just feel like there are a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of people who go, you know what, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to spend that seventeen on COVID tests. I don't

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Speaker 3: feel like I get anything out of that really, And that's.

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Speaker 25: Because and that's because I disagree with what doctor Retti said,

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Speaker 25: which is that there's the same level, there's a similar

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Speaker 25: level of urgency about this. I think there's a lower

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Speaker 25: level of urgency and that's reflected in a whole lot

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Speaker 25: of measures in terms of you know, people are actually

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Speaker 25: I would say many people are here deliberately not testing

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Speaker 25: because it's not seen and it's not seen as something

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Speaker 25: that is as as dangerous as it used to be.

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Speaker 25: For a variety of reasons, vaccination rates, it's gone through

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Speaker 25: the population. The other thing is I would I would

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Speaker 25: say that perhaps perhaps the urgency was overcooked in some

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Speaker 25: of the COVID response that we got, and that's back

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Speaker 25: to the previous government. Let's not go there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we'll have plenty of time to discuss that,

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Speaker 3: no doubt when, well, if they decide upon expanding the

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Speaker 3: remit for the COVID inquiry. We're back with our huddle

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Speaker 3: in a couple of minutes. Tim Wilson and Mike Munro.

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Speaker 3: Right now it is thirteen to sex.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty un parallel

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Speaker 2: reach and results.

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Speaker 3: You're back with a hardle Mike Munroe, Tim Wilson, our

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Speaker 3: huddler's this evening and Mike, the pothole Police coming to

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Speaker 3: a place near you. The Transport Minister announcing a total

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Speaker 3: of four billion dollars in funding across a couple of

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Speaker 3: different funds to prevent or to fix up and then

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Speaker 3: prevent future potholes around the country. What do you think, Well, look, it.

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Speaker 10: Just seems an absurd amount of money. Actually, Jack, Look,

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Speaker 10: maybe I don't get out of enough on the road.

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Speaker 10: But is that pothole problem really that bad that it

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Speaker 10: requires four billion dollars in total? Also, there's been nothing

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Speaker 10: set today but where that money is coming from, there's

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Speaker 10: no not much context an it. I mean, does this

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Speaker 10: mean that other maintenance something is going to be cut?

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Speaker 10: It just seems strange amount of money. It just comes

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Speaker 10: on top of the fact that in the budget there's

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Speaker 10: about three billion dollars whe it cuts to climate initiatives

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Speaker 10: when you when you add them all up, and this

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Speaker 10: is around the climate emergency response done and the TV

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Speaker 10: owns cuts, et cetera. So it just comes back, you know, priorities,

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Speaker 10: and I am concerned about the priorities of the government.

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Speaker 10: They just ignoring the climate funding side of the occasion

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Speaker 10: of the equation and just throwing everything at rage.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, term if the IF the texts or anything to

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Speaker 3: go by this evening, those probably saying people have been

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Speaker 3: upset about the potholes are preparing to be really upset

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Speaker 3: by the number of orange road cones and stop go

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Speaker 3: signs they're going to be encountering over the next couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 25: It's true. There's yeah, I see a lot of road works.

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Speaker 25: I don't see a lot of roads actually working, but

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Speaker 25: that that's another story.

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Speaker 11: Look.

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Speaker 25: In January twenty twenty three, the Freight Transfert Association said

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Speaker 25: that there was a record high number of potholes in

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Speaker 25: the previous year, five hundred and fifty five complaints. I know,

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Speaker 25: we say and look a bit like you might.

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Speaker 24: I don't.

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Speaker 25: I don't encounter a great deal of them. So I've

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Speaker 25: actually spoke to people who drive further and longer, typically

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Speaker 25: at work, and there is there is a sense that

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Speaker 25: there's a sort of an annoyance. Not annoyance, it's actually like, golly,

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Speaker 25: this could rip up my car. So I think it's

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Speaker 25: it's it's a sensible thing. And also if it's if

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Speaker 25: it's affecting our trendsport infrastructure, which a lot of stuff

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Speaker 25: gets delivant by my trucks, then that that that helps

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Speaker 25: the economy function tim.

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Speaker 3: Mood changes, acne, weight gain, potential changes in either direction

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Speaker 3: when it comes to you, holidays or so. These are

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Speaker 3: some of the potential side effects for the new male

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Speaker 3: contraceptive that apparently is testing very well. We spoke to

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Speaker 3: a research before who says they're hoping to have it

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Speaker 3: on market relatively soon. What do you think as a

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Speaker 3: man with well more children than he has fingers to

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Speaker 3: count the mine I would have thought these days, is

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Speaker 3: this something.

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Speaker 25: That Tim Wilson might consider that that is, that is

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Speaker 25: that is not true? And look, I think I think

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Speaker 25: it is a recognition that the female contraceptive pill is

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Speaker 25: less than ideal. But can I just say that children

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Speaker 25: are not sometimes disease to be medicated against their an

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Speaker 25: absolute gift. You are confronted with all of your virtues

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Speaker 25: and a whole bunch of your flaws and you have

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Speaker 25: to somehow mediate it. Meanwhile, it's pouring out would love

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Speaker 25: for you. I gave my eighteen months old also a

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Speaker 25: kiss today and he put us tiny little arms around

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Speaker 25: me and kissed me back, and it was the most

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Speaker 25: beautiful thing. And by the way, we are facing a

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Speaker 25: demographic collapse. So throw away the gel. Don't buy the

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Speaker 25: damn gel.

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Speaker 4: Throw away the bills.

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Speaker 24: Let's have bought dan kid.

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Speaker 3: I knew Tim would have strong thoughts on that one.

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Speaker 3: Thank you both so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 3: We really appreciated Thathardle, Mike Munro and Tim Wilson on.

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Speaker 3: News Talks, he'd be thank you for all your texts

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Speaker 3: and emails. We've had heaps come in regarding the new

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Speaker 3: funding for pothole prevention, and I suppose that is an

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Speaker 3: important point the minister made. It's not just for fixing

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Speaker 3: up the potholes we have apparently they're about sixty two

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Speaker 3: one thousand in New Zealand last year alone. Is actually

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Speaker 3: for preventing them the future. So upgrading drainage systems around roads,

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Speaker 3: that kind of thing, so that we don't get so

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Speaker 3: many potholes. Most people would look at that and say, yep,

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Speaker 3: that makes a lot of sense. Is it a four

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Speaker 3: billion dollar problem? Well, that might depend on your own perspective, Mark,

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Speaker 3: says Jack regarding the pothole action, Just imagine more and

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Speaker 3: more roads with stop ghost signs, trucks that stop traffic

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Speaker 3: every sixty meters or so. If this is supposed to

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Speaker 3: improve our productivity, I fear it's going to have the

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Speaker 3: opposite effect. Regarding COVID tests, Jack about time look at

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Speaker 3: the COVID wastewater testing numbers. At the moment where you

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Speaker 3: have a greater surge of COVID in this country than

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Speaker 3: we've had in some time, it's true that COVID is

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Speaker 3: certainly causing some issues. After six o'clock this evening, we're

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Speaker 3: going to tell you about the plans from B and

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Speaker 3: Z have just announced they're going to have all of

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Speaker 3: their branches nationwide open five days a week. I know

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Speaker 3: it's back to the future for B and Z, so

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Speaker 3: they can explain why they're doing that when they join

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Speaker 3: us after the news, plus why interest rates could be

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Speaker 3: pushed back that little bit longer. News is next on

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Speaker 3: News Dog ZB.

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Speaker 2: We're Business Inside the Business Hour with Jack tam and

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Speaker 2: My Hr On NEWSSB.

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Speaker 3: News SOB with Jack Tame in four, Heather Duplicy Ellen,

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Speaker 3: she's back. Tomorrow's son stress out too much. Before seven o'clock,

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Speaker 3: we're going to go to Brad Olson from Infometrics. Infometrics

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Speaker 3: has just upgraded their forecast for when the OCR is

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Speaker 3: likely to be cut. They've pushed it back to February. Previously,

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Speaker 3: they thought we might be in line for a cut

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Speaker 3: at the end of this year, but looking at some

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Speaker 3: of the rhetoric out of the rbn Z from the

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Speaker 3: latest monetary policy statement, combined with that sticky domestic inflation

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Speaker 3: and on tradable inflation, plus the government's plans around the

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Speaker 3: budget and the fiscal trajectory. Brad Olson says they're now

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Speaker 3: pushing back their trajections for a cut in February of

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Speaker 3: next year. And I still reckon there's about a ten

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Speaker 3: percent chance that we could see an increase to the

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Speaker 3: ocr So he will be with us very shortly. Right

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Speaker 3: now though it is eight minutes past six, and it's

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Speaker 3: back to the future in a way, at the very

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Speaker 3: least for ben Z. The bank today announced that all

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Speaker 3: of its branches nationwide will open at least five days

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Speaker 3: a week by April of next year. The bank says

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Speaker 3: the move is a response to growing customer demand for

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Speaker 3: more face to face interactions and Benz chief executive Dan

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Speaker 3: Huggins is with us now. Good day, Dan, good Jack.

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Speaker 11: Thanks for having me us to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and us to be speaking with you. Talk us

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Speaker 3: through the changes. What are you guys doing.

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Speaker 11: Well, Look, we've we've got about twenty three branches throughout

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Speaker 11: the country that previously have been on reduced days, and

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Speaker 11: we've heard from our customers, particularly small businesses, that they

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Speaker 11: want to talk to our people more often. So we're

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Speaker 11: opening them month for five day.

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Speaker 3: A week, so talk us through why they were working

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Speaker 3: reduced days or reduced hours in the first place.

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Speaker 11: You know, probably four or five years ago, we saw

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Speaker 11: that there was quite a big shift of demand towards online,

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Speaker 11: towards digital and call center. So you know, we moved

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Speaker 11: in response to that to put more people into those

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Speaker 11: centers to support customers. Now we've taken the feedback and

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Speaker 11: we are putting more people into our branches so we

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Speaker 11: can also open those whilst sustaining the services and digital

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Speaker 11: and those cour centers.

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Speaker 3: So you'll be sustaining those services. Does that mean that

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Speaker 3: you'll be keeping the resource for the digital services and

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Speaker 3: the call centers the same as it has been, that's right.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So there's there's the resources that are in those areas,

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Speaker 11: all of our people that are certain people in the

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Speaker 11: cour centers and hundreds of people we've got supporting digital.

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Speaker 11: They all stay, and then we're putting more people into

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Speaker 11: the branches to get them open place.

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Speaker 3: And so why do you think why do you think

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Speaker 3: attitudes have changed, just because at the end of the

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Speaker 3: pandemic people went back to wanting face to face interactions.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, there's a little bit of that. There's there's

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Speaker 11: also we've been growing the banks, We've got more customers,

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Speaker 11: and also, you know, there are other things happening. There's

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Speaker 11: a bit more scams to want a bit more face

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Speaker 11: to face contact. You know, there's certainly been a change

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Speaker 11: in interest rates. So with mortgage, is actually that that

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Speaker 11: face to face conversation is very very helpful for people?

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Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. So what are the sort of main

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Speaker 3: things that people are actually coming into for those in

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Speaker 3: those personal interactions. Is it stuff around mortgages.

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Speaker 11: For the for the personal side of you, it's things

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Speaker 11: around mortgages and help with transactional accounts, cash flow management,

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Speaker 11: and now on the small business side, you know, it's

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Speaker 11: how do I grow my business? How do I manage

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Speaker 11: cash flows?

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Speaker 22: Again?

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Speaker 3: And what is the kind of sense that you are

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Speaker 3: getting from around those branches around the country as to

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Speaker 3: as to how people are feeling in this economic moment.

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Speaker 22: Look, it's it's hard.

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Speaker 11: I think that's that's the message that we're seeing from customers.

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Speaker 11: I think many people are getting by but they're having

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Speaker 11: to make really tough decisions about how they manage their

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Speaker 11: cash flow so that they can so that they can

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Speaker 11: get through. But it's certainly pretty challenging out there for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Do you see anything to feel kind of positive or

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Speaker 3: optimistic about on the horizon?

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Speaker 11: Look, I mean, we're certainly on over the medium term,

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Speaker 11: really optimistic about New Zealand. We've got amazing people who

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Speaker 11: are super innovative, great businesses. So over the medium term

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Speaker 11: we've got huge comfort in New Zealand and huge aspirations

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Speaker 11: for Kiwis and how the economy will compete globally and grow.

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Speaker 11: But it's a difficult period of adjustment as we're trying

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Speaker 11: to get inflation down into that band and obviously interest

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Speaker 11: rates to high and having an impact on people throughout it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really tricky. So it's a staggered transition for

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Speaker 3: your branches around the country. They're going to be open

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Speaker 3: from nine point thirty until four, minimum of five days

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Speaker 3: a week, and you're going to be starting off with

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Speaker 3: some of your branches in Regional New Zealand.

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Speaker 11: Right, that's right. Yeah, So there's seven branches throughout Regional

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Speaker 11: New Zealand. Some branches are open seven days a week,

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Speaker 11: so all the branches will be open at least five,

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Speaker 11: but there's obviously some throughout the country that are open seven.

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Speaker 11: We've said April, and we'd like to have it done

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Speaker 11: next year, but we're going to try and do it

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Speaker 11: much faster than that. It just all depends on hiring

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Speaker 11: people and chaining them up, so that's the timing thing there,

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Speaker 11: but hopefully we'll get done a bit faster than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic, Hey, thanks so much, Dan, really appreciate your times.

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Speaker 3: Dan Huggins, who is the CEO of b n Z.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's twelve minutes past six, crunching the numbers.

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Speaker 1: And getting the results. It's Heather due for see Hellen

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Speaker 1: with the Business.

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Speaker 2: Hours thanks to my HR the HL platform for sme

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Speaker 2: on news talks EDB. Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Jack Team with the Business Hour thanks to my HR,

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Speaker 2: the HL platform for sme on news talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: If you want to flick us and oes, you can.

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Speaker 3: It's very easy. Ninety two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 3: number you can email me as well. Jacket Newstalks, dB

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Speaker 3: dot co dot in Z. I'm gonna get your messages

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Speaker 3: very shortly right now though, it's called to past six

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Speaker 3: and good news. If you're looking at the price of

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Speaker 3: petrol and you're thinking you might fill up your car

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Speaker 3: sometime soon, well, the price of oil should be coming

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Speaker 3: down shortly. The price of Brent crude has been trending

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Speaker 3: down over the past week and it may still have

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Speaker 3: some way to go. Liam dan Is, The Herald's Business

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Speaker 3: editor at large. Gooday, hi Jack, So where's the price

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Speaker 3: at now?

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Speaker 26: Well, it's still sitting about seventy eight something for a

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Speaker 26: barrel of Brent crude if that's what you feel like

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Speaker 26: getting for yourself US seventy eight. That's you know, good

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Speaker 26: news for motorists, right because it's below eighty and we

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Speaker 26: saw it slump about six or seven percent at the weekend,

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Speaker 26: so you know that was to do with weird stuff

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Speaker 26: like Opek trying to sort of consolidate its production cuts

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Speaker 26: and then not impressing the markets with how heavily they

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Speaker 26: consolidated them. So you'd think it would go up, but

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Speaker 26: it didn't.

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Speaker 8: It went down.

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Speaker 26: And there's some numbers out of the US on US

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Speaker 26: production that was strong. But oil has been coming off

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Speaker 26: since the start of the quarter. Which is also kind

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Speaker 26: of good news on the inflation fight. You know, they

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Speaker 26: need to go into it all, but obviously oil flows

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Speaker 26: for everything still. You know, we want to see renewable

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Speaker 26: energy and all that stuff, but actually, you know everything

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Speaker 26: in the economy is underpinned by the price of oil

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Speaker 26: transporting all your goods and you know, manufacturing of plastics.

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Speaker 8: And all that stuff.

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Speaker 26: So that's quite good news on maybe what'd call the

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Speaker 26: tradable side of inflation. I know the Reserve Bank can't

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Speaker 26: get excited about that yet because it a could move

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Speaker 26: back up and be there focused on the non tradable bit,

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Speaker 26: the bit of New Zealand, you know, the wages and

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Speaker 26: assurance prices and all that sort.

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Speaker 3: Of stuff, rates and that sort of thing. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: So how fast should we expect the fuel companies to

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Speaker 3: pass on any savings?

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Speaker 26: If they do, I think, I look, this is me

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Speaker 26: putting the acid on the look. Yes, I think that

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Speaker 26: we should see the pump price continue to fall a

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Speaker 26: bit through the next week. It takes a while to

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Speaker 26: flow through, but not not that long. I mean, it's

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Speaker 26: pretty immediate commodity price then, compared to something like dairy prices,

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Speaker 26: where it can take months for it to go from

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Speaker 26: the what we see in the Fonterra auction thing through

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Speaker 26: to the through your block of cheese. Petrol transmits pretty quickly.

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Speaker 26: The New Zealand dollar has been a bit stronger for

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Speaker 26: percent up I think in the past month if I'm

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Speaker 26: remembering the ben z en note correctly, and I look

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Speaker 26: at that the website gaspy and you know, so we're

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Speaker 26: oil prices off for abound fourteen percent since the start

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Speaker 26: of the quarter. Two months we've seen that so far

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Speaker 26: according to gas by the you know, in the last

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Speaker 26: month unleaded ninety ones down about.

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Speaker 8: Six and a half percent.

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Speaker 3: So it's not bad.

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Speaker 26: That's a reasonable pass through, but it doesn't shouldn't have

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Speaker 26: captured yet what we saw at the weekend. So that's

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Speaker 26: you know, maybe a suggestion that you haven't filled up yet.

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Speaker 26: Wait a couple of days. Yeah, hopefully it's a bit better,

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Speaker 26: a bit better.

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Speaker 3: Is it gaspy?

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Speaker 8: Gaspy as well? I'm looking.

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Speaker 3: I always thought it was gas spy could be because

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Speaker 3: it not gaspy. I've been saying gas by all these years.

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Speaker 3: I've been saying, one of us is going to be right,

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Speaker 3: one of us. There's nothing else or gas.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean, look I look at the website. Yeah, gasp.

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Speaker 3: By yeah, I mean it is about gas, isn't it.

1518
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 3: You're probably spying. Yeah, no, well I'm usually wrong with

1519
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 3: these things.

1520
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 8: It's a good pun play on words, which was totally.

1521
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,560
Speaker 3: By Okay, if you know, please let us know. Is

1522
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 3: it gas your guess? By ninety two ninety two, there's

1523
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: some yeah, I mean if indeed we do see a

1524
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 3: bit of a fall at the pump, I mean right

1525
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 3: across the board. Given you know that, as you said,

1526
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: oil passes through everything. This is ultimately going to be

1527
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 3: a little bit of good news in that fight for inflation.

1528
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 3: But it's the non tradables of the domestic stuff that's

1529
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 3: still kind of sticky.

1530
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you can get into the weeds on that stuff.

1531
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 7: They do.

1532
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 8: They do sort of cross pollinate a bit.

1533
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: But you know, oil price doesn't hit rents, for example,

1534
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily hit.

1535
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 8: Rates for it.

1536
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 26: No, I mean, it's an influence when it's spiked up above.

1537
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 26: I think it got tow one hundred and twenty something

1538
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 26: US dollars a barrel in twenty twenty two. It obviously

1539
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 26: was one of the sparks that you know, drove that

1540
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,839
Speaker 26: really high inflation. You know, the financial the economic purists

1541
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 26: will tell you it's all money supply. I think it's

1542
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 26: a bit of a bit of a mixture. But you

1543
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 26: know that the price we play pay for commodities is

1544
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 26: very much a real world part of the price that

1545
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 26: feeds into everything.

1546
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 3: I appreciate your time.

1547
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 8: Thank you very much. Liam.

1548
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 3: That is Liam Dan, the nz heral to business or

1549
01:15:59,200 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 3: at large.

1550
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 8: I think, oh man, I.

1551
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: Think we could be both wrong. I see I always

1552
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 3: thought it was gas By. Liam rinkins it's gas By,

1553
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 3: and just pointed out that it could be a combination

1554
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 3: of those two.

1555
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 27: So sure it's Gasby because I remember speaking to one

1556
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 27: of the guys from Gasby a few years I'm sure

1557
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 27: that's what he taught me.

1558
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

1559
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 27: I think you're right. Like because gas it's definitely gas.

1560
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 27: Your one's more logical rights because that's what you do.

1561
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 27: But it just doesn't roll off the tongue, you know, gasbee,

1562
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 27: it's just one.

1563
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah it's gas, you know, yes, yeah, so gas dash

1564
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 3: p ee for pronunciation purposes. If we're wrong, please let

1565
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 3: us know. Hey, in case you didn't see it. Today,

1566
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 3: we have a new silver medal, a new second place

1567
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: for the world's second most valuable company at least publicly

1568
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: listed company. So it used to be Apple, Microsoft's top

1569
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 3: of the pops at the moment in terms of market cap,

1570
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 3: now in second place in video and it is incredible.

1571
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: So over the last just the last few months, I

1572
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 3: think even from the start of this year, and Vidia

1573
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 3: has gone from a market cap of two trillion US

1574
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 3: dollars two thousand billion to three trillion US dollars three

1575
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 3: thousand billion dollars. That is just incredible for a company

1576
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 3: that makes chips and you know, started out making video

1577
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 3: chips for video making chips for video games and is

1578
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 3: now of course on the forefront of AI. So in video,

1579
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: now the second most valuable publicly the company in the

1580
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 3: world by market cap. That really is incredible. Twenty one

1581
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 3: past six.

1582
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1583
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: The Rule report on the Heather Duper Clan Drive with

1584
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 2: N's Kofoods New Zealand's Finest Beef and Lamb.

1585
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay as the host of the Country and Jamie,

1586
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 3: I think it's just you and I while all of

1587
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 3: our colleagues are living it up at the Radio Awards.

1588
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 3: You and I grafting away as per.

1589
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 4: Well, Jack, that might.

1590
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 9: Think because I don't know about you, but I didn't

1591
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 9: make the finals, and I'm just thinking to myself, what's

1592
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 9: the Hosk got, or Heather for that matter, because you're

1593
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 9: filling in for her. What have they got that we

1594
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 9: haven't got? It doesn't appear obvious to me, Jack.

1595
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 3: I think we can just slip it round Jamie. I mean,

1596
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 3: you ask yourself for this, what's the host going to

1597
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 3: have that you don't have in about six months when

1598
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: you've got a few letters after your name, Because I mean, hey, congratulations.

1599
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 9: Oh well, thank you, thank you very much for that.

1600
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 4: Mind you, Jack.

1601
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 9: Just on the subject of radio awards and knowing I

1602
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 9: was speaking to you today, I was trying to I

1603
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,959
Speaker 9: think I've made in thirty years of radio two finals,

1604
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 9: so not a great strike great to be honest, Jack,

1605
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 9: But I I'm in the same category as the Hoskin here.

1606
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 4: But one year I did make it.

1607
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 9: The finalists were myself, yourself and Larry Williams, the bloke

1608
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 9: who used to run the show, and neither and you

1609
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 9: and I were also rams, Jack, and I'm not quite

1610
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 9: sure who got second and who got third. They didn't

1611
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 9: announce that, but I'm going age before beauty and claiming

1612
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 9: second player.

1613
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm very happy to accept that result

1614
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 3: as well. I think that sounds about for you. Speaking

1615
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: of awards, the Rural King's Birthday Honors recipet and the

1616
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 3: highest accolade went to Vincent Ashworth.

1617
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is a good story. I was going to

1618
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 9: tell this one to Heather on Tuesday, but she was

1619
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 9: too busy giving me stick about my gong. So look,

1620
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 9: this is the guy who was the well, as you said,

1621
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 9: had the highest accolades.

1622
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 4: Great story.

1623
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 9: He got a Companion of the New Zealand Order of

1624
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 9: Merit for services to Agriculture for services in New Zealand

1625
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 9: and internationally. His work dates back to nineteen seventy. He

1626
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 9: was a senior agriculturist with the World Bank. He led

1627
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 9: missions to help farmers with food production and more than

1628
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 9: thirty developing countries. Notably, he spent time in really harsh

1629
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 9: farming environments such as Afghanistan, Yemen, Ethiopia. There's a place

1630
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 9: that needs some farming advice helping them out. He launched

1631
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 9: the New Zealand Society of Farm Management in nineteen sixty nine,

1632
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 9: serving as the inaugural president thousands of farmers over the

1633
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 9: years have benefited from his findings or their fine for

1634
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 9: their practices. He was a member of To Save the

1635
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 9: Children's New Zealand Overseas Projects Committee for a decade back

1636
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 9: in the seventies and eighties. And he's a life member.

1637
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 9: If that's not enough, a life member of the New

1638
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 9: Zealand Institute of Primary Industry Management and the New Zealand

1639
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 9: Institute of Agricultural Science. What a legend. Well done, Vincent Ashra.

1640
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's amazing, that's really special. Did some really

1641
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,679
Speaker 3: interesting data today, Ken, We living rurally have significantly higher

1642
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 3: mortality rates from preventable causes and alarmingly high rates of suicide.

1643
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, and just look at that suicide rate, Jack, And

1644
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 9: this is one I have done quite a bit of

1645
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 9: work on this one with the likes of farm Strong

1646
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 9: or help facilitate what they're doing through my radio show.

1647
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,560
Speaker 9: Suicide rates for males aged fifteen to forty four. I

1648
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 9: apologize if I'm repeating these numbers, but they are sobering

1649
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 9: sixty four percent higher in rural areas than in cities.

1650
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 9: Look the Statstone, the stats Stone Stacker for mara younger

1651
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 9: than thirty living remotely. They're twice is likely to die

1652
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 9: of preventable causes than their urban counterparts. Non Malory thirty

1653
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 9: to forty living rurally one point eight times more likely

1654
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 9: to die from a preventable cause. And the kicker here

1655
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 9: is that saying that you know tally health and a

1656
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 9: lot of us are getting into health via technology isn't

1657
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 9: a solution. Because hes some more shocking numbers for you, Jack.

1658
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 9: Only seventy four point two percent of rural households had

1659
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 9: access to the Internet.

1660
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 10: That's a shocking number.

1661
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 3: Shocking, And only.

1662
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:37,879
Speaker 9: Sixty four point six percent of some communities had access

1663
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 9: to a mobile phone. I know that reception is an

1664
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 9: issue around some of the more remote parts of the country,

1665
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 9: but we are Jack, unfortunately when it comes to these

1666
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 9: sort of numbers, a country of haves and have nots.

1667
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your time,

1668
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 3: Jamie on that sobering Noe appreciate it. Hope, even though

1669
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: you're not there tonight, you will be celebrating in some

1670
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 3: other way. And congratulations once again, Jammy McKay. They're the

1671
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 3: host of the country. After six thirty, we're going to

1672
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 3: take you to the UK. They've just released a new

1673
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: poll ahead of the UK general election, and it is

1674
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 3: bad news for the Tories. No, Labor hasn't had a

1675
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 3: massive surge. It is Nigel Farage. A massive surch for

1676
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 3: Nigel Faras. So I'll give you the numbers on that

1677
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 3: very shortly.

1678
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: News is next though, whether it's macro micro or just

1679
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: playing economics, it's all on a Business Hour with Jack

1680
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 2: Tam and my HR, the HR platform for SME News

1681
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: talks Broman.

1682
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 13: Well.

1683
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 3: Good news is that Liam Dan and I aren't the

1684
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 3: only ones going back and forth on the pronunciation of

1685
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 3: gas spy versus gas B versus gasby I mean somebody

1686
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 3: Dixon from every one episode convinced that their way of

1687
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 3: pronouncing it is correct. The only problem is that all

1688
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 3: of them are suggesting different pronunciations, so I'm not sure

1689
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 3: that we're necessarily any closer. If you can shed some light,

1690
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 3: please please do. Nine ninety two is the text under

1691
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: this evening before seven o'clock will take you to the UK.

1692
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: They've just been marking D Day celebrations, so we'll tell

1693
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 3: you how that has all unfolded right now, though it

1694
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: is twenty four minutes to seven.

1695
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,440
Speaker 1: Heather do News Dogs.

1696
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 3: And bad News if you're longing for Morga rates to

1697
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 3: come down sometime soon. Infometrics has just updated its forecasts

1698
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,560
Speaker 3: and now doesn't think the Reserve Bank will drop the

1699
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: official cash rate until February of next year. It had

1700
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: previously predicted that rates would start coming down in November.

1701
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 3: Brad Olsen is Infometrics principal economists Kyolder Yolder, Why have

1702
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 3: you moved out the date?

1703
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 7: Well, we keep looking out at the economy and probably

1704
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 7: more importantly, at how the Reserve Bank is viewing the economy,

1705
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 7: and we just can't support our previous view. We thought

1706
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 7: it was going to be November that the Reserve Bank

1707
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 7: would have enough information to start to make those cuts.

1708
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 7: We've now formally pushed that out to February next year,

1709
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 7: just given how intense that non tradable's inflation has been,

1710
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 7: that domestically based pressure. But we are, I guess a

1711
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 7: little bit worried. We're a little bit almost in two

1712
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 7: minds over this. But we've looked at how strong the

1713
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 7: Reserve Bank's view has been so far, you know, looking

1714
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,600
Speaker 7: at all of their forecasts and their expectations. We just

1715
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 7: can't see them moving all that quickly. They're pretty persistent

1716
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 7: over their view, they need to get inflation down lower.

1717
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 7: They haven't got that evidence yet, And if they haven't

1718
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 7: got that evidence, we can't really go out and say

1719
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 7: we think they'll move ahead of time, because they most

1720
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 7: likely probably won't.

1721
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 3: What about fiscal policy, how is the budget factoring in

1722
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:48,520
Speaker 3: your forecasts?

1723
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 7: Well, and that's the other thing that sorts of it

1724
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 7: seems to come through. I mean, if you look at

1725
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 7: the budget, I think overall, even the Treasury's numbers show

1726
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 7: that the government spending over time share should be sort

1727
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 7: of more contractionery. It shouldn't add nearly as much into

1728
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 7: the economy as it previously might have. So that's a

1729
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 7: good thing over the long term. The issue is given

1730
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 7: how much more challenging the economy looks like it will be,

1731
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,639
Speaker 7: you know, with those higher interest rates for longer. Even

1732
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 7: the Treasury said also that you know that near term

1733
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 7: fiscal impulse might be slightly more positive. If I'm the

1734
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,919
Speaker 7: Reserve Bank and I'm already worried about inflation remaining too persistent,

1735
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 7: They're probably going to have a bit of a black

1736
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 7: mark against that. So looking at all of that, we

1737
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 7: can't see any justification for the Reserve Bank needing to

1738
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 7: raise interest rates. Again, we still don't discount it because

1739
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 7: we think that they're so worried at the moment we've

1740
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 7: got a ten percent chance, so they might have to,

1741
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 7: but so far we're sort of of the view that, look,

1742
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 7: it just pushes it out. I still don't think it

1743
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 7: has to take till September or whenever in twenty twenty

1744
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 7: five that the Reserve Bank is sort of forecasting on

1745
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 7: their official cash rate track. But it's just that pressure

1746
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 7: that's in the economy. Economic activity has pulled back, inflation's

1747
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 7: taking longer to get there. That means that interest rates

1748
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 7: will also take longer to come down.

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Speaker 3: Ten percent is not nothing, Brad that nervous. I'd I'd

1750
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 3: be much every if it was zero point teen percent.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I absolutely agree, And trust me, there was a

1752
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 7: lot of conversation in our team around you know, is

1753
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 7: that is that justified? And we looked at it and

1754
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 7: we just went, well, we sort of has to because

1755
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 7: the fact that the Reserve Bank not only has listed

1756
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 7: their official cash rate forecast, we could almost get away

1757
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 7: from that that you know, the Reserve Bank's been saying

1758
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 7: look it's mechanistic and almost saying look it's a forecast,

1759
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,919
Speaker 7: but don't believe our forecast, which is hard to interpret

1760
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 7: in of itself, but the fact they did that and

1761
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 7: also said in their official record of meeting they said, hey, guys,

1762
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 7: we actually did think about putting it up. What are

1763
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 7: we supposed to look at? I mean, the Reserve Bank

1764
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 7: lifts their track, they talk about how they thought about

1765
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 7: raising it. It's a pretty strong signal to me that

1766
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 7: they haven't discounted it. And if they haven't, then we

1767
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 7: sure can't.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, you know, Adrian All made it pretty clear

1769
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 3: last month with that last monetary policy statement that when

1770
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 3: you think about the non tradeables that the domestic inflation

1771
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 3: stuff like rates, stuff like insurance rent prices that are contributing,

1772
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: you know, massively to that high non tradeables numbers at

1773
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 3: five point eight or something at the moment. So what

1774
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 3: are his chances of trying to trying to stop those rises?

1775
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 4: Well?

1776
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 7: And I think so. I mean, the Governor's made some

1777
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 7: interesting remarks on that because he almost seemed to imply

1778
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 7: that their banks thought they could get some of those

1779
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 7: things under control. You're not going to use monetary policy

1780
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 7: to get local government rates under control. You're probably not

1781
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 7: going to get them to shift insurance premiums and similar either.

1782
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 7: What it's more likely to do is that if those

1783
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 7: things remain high, then the Reserve Bank might well have

1784
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 7: to keep sort of pressing harder on the other parts

1785
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 7: of the economy to get that aggurate inflation pressure down.

1786
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 7: I think, I mean, to be fair, they've been looking

1787
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 7: through at those non tradables and saying it's not just

1788
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 7: these big sawny things. There's enough general pressure in there

1789
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 7: as well. So what they'll probably want to see is

1790
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 7: that they if they can't influence some of those big

1791
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 7: thorny bits, they'll want to see the rest of non

1792
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 7: tradeables pull back. They'll also sort of need to see

1793
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 7: more generally, probably that hit on consumption. If people aren't

1794
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 7: spending as much over time, businesses just shouldn't be able

1795
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 7: to pass through those costs quite as much. They'll be

1796
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 7: worried about losing market share and cash flow, so that

1797
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 7: should filter through. But I think the Reserve Bank has

1798
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 7: sort of said that, Look, they're nervous about that because

1799
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 7: it just hasn't come down as quickly. You know, you've

1800
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 7: had other central banks around the world they have been

1801
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 7: able to get their core inflation down. We haven't managed

1802
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 7: to achieve that yet, and to be fair, until that happens,

1803
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 7: if I'm the Reserve Bank, I'm still going I'm not

1804
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 7: confident enough about hitting my target, and until that happens,

1805
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 7: I'm not shifting my position.

1806
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, thanks Brad. Always appreciate your insights. That is

1807
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 3: Brad Olsen. That is Brad Olsen. And for Metrix principal economist, Yes,

1808
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 3: slightly depressing years. I suppose ten percent is ten percent,

1809
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 3: but still, I mean, it would be a very bold call.

1810
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 3: It would be a very bold cor and it'll be

1811
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 3: interesting to see what happens with the next CPI numbers

1812
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 3: come up, that what the domestic inflation number is looking like,

1813
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 3: because it would be a bold call for the RBNZ

1814
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 3: to hike, even if only by another twenty five basis

1815
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 3: points given the state of the country and economy right now.

1816
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 3: Very good news from the radio Awards where many of

1817
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 3: our colleagues are celebrating this evening. This is going to

1818
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 3: come as a huge shock. I'm sure best talk presenter

1819
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Speaker 3: Breakfast or Drive has been named as none other than

1820
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 3: mister Mike Hosking for twenty twenty four. Oh so that

1821
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 3: is absolutely fantastic news. I'm sure all of our colleagues

1822
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 3: will be celebrating the Hoscar success tonight right now to

1823
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 3: seventeen to seven on news doorg zb.

1824
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Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

1825
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 2: with Jack Team and my HR, the HR platform for

1826
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1827
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Speaker 3: Z EDB fourteen to seven on newstorgs zb UK correspondent

1828
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 3: Ender Brady is with us this evening high Ender.

1829
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 4: Oh Hi and a are you there hey, Jack Clauden Claire,

1830
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 4: How are you?

1831
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1832
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 3: Very well, thank you? How you've got an update on

1833
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 3: the medal McKain situation for us?

1834
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 4: Yes, So this story and this ongoing case makes the

1835
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 4: papers yet again here today because a German detective has

1836
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 4: given just a few words in public about the case.

1837
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 4: There is a man on trial for a string of

1838
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 4: sex attacks at the turn of the century early two thousands.

1839
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 4: His name is Christian Bruckner. He denies the charges and

1840
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:34,440
Speaker 4: that trial is still ongoing in Germany, and a detective

1841
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 4: involved on the German police inside has said now publicly

1842
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 4: that they have discovered a hotmail account and an external

1843
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 4: hard drive and he said that contains evidence linking Bruckner

1844
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 4: they believe to the disappearance of Madeline McCann. So this

1845
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 4: is the first kind of public acknowledgment of any of

1846
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 4: the evidence. We've long suspected that the German police know

1847
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 4: an awful lot more than obviously they're going to tell

1848
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 4: the public, but this is the first time they've acknowledged

1849
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,200
Speaker 4: that they do have a link between this guy Bruckner

1850
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 4: and the disappearance of Madeline McCann. Now, Quinn pushed the

1851
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 4: detective did not reveal what was in the emails or

1852
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,560
Speaker 4: what is on the hard drive, but it's clear he

1853
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 4: is the main suspect.

1854
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 3: At eighty years eighty years since the day, and of

1855
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 3: course that anniversary has been commemorated.

1856
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 4: Yes, so it's a huge day ahead. You'll see a

1857
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 4: lot of live coverage news events coming from Normandy in

1858
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 4: the next four or five hours. There are handful of

1859
01:31:34,760 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 4: men and women who were there still alive. Some of

1860
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 4: them are past one hundred now and they have traveled

1861
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 4: all the way back to Normandy. So in all honesty, Jack,

1862
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 4: this is probably the last big commemoration of D Day

1863
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 4: with veterans present. I've been listening to their stories on

1864
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 4: radio this morning. Extraordinary men and women, what they did,

1865
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 4: what they went through, what they gave for Europe and

1866
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 4: the world eighty years ago today it was the single

1867
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 4: defining moment really of World War Two, swung everything in

1868
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 4: the Allies favor and King Charles will be there later today.

1869
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 4: The Prime Minister Rishi Sunaku's traveling as well, and we're

1870
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 4: told Joe Biden has flown in from the United States.

1871
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 4: So a huge, huge event and it was interesting. Charles

1872
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,839
Speaker 4: spoke at an event on the South coast in England yesterday,

1873
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 4: surrounded by veterans and he was visibly overcome with the

1874
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 4: motion as he sat down after speaking, wiping tears from

1875
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 4: his eyes. I think it was all a bit too

1876
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 4: much for Charles.

1877
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 12: Yeah, and.

1878
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 3: How's that sort of how will this event do you

1879
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 3: think be seen by younger generations in the like? You know,

1880
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 3: what does the how does a generational divide play into today?

1881
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 3: Or you know, is there a scence that younger generations

1882
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 3: appreciate the significance?

1883
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think when we've got war in Europe on

1884
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: our doorsteps, not two and a half hours out of

1885
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 4: London in Ukraine at the moment, I think it's very

1886
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 4: fitting that we should observe and pay tribute to these

1887
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 4: men and women and what they did in the face

1888
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 4: of utter tyranny eighty years ago. It is happening to

1889
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 4: European neighbors of ours not that far away right now.

1890
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: So I think anyone who anyone who doesn't listen or

1891
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 4: watch this today just needs to think. You know, we

1892
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 4: have situations in Europe at the moment that could spiral

1893
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 4: even further and come closer to our doorsteps.

1894
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 3: And of course we are into the UK election campaign

1895
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 3: and there has been a huge boost for Nigel Farage

1896
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 3: in the latest pol.

1897
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 4: Yes, so his party is now called Reform. This was

1898
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 4: born out of UKIP and breaksis and everything he helped

1899
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 4: deliver over the course of the last eight years. He

1900
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 4: is now standing for parliament, which is a big deal

1901
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 4: certainly in the media bubble. Will he get elected eight time? Looky,

1902
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 4: he's run for parliament seven times here and he's never

1903
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 4: got in, so it'd be interesting to see if he does.

1904
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:05,560
Speaker 4: This latest poll has Reform on seventeen percent Why is

1905
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,839
Speaker 4: that important? The Conservative Party, the ruling party of government

1906
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 4: right now on this poll are nineteen percentage point, So

1907
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 4: there's a two percentage point gap between these upstarts as

1908
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 4: some would see it. They are very right wing Reform

1909
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,919
Speaker 4: and the Conservatives, And I think Richie's next big headache

1910
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 4: is that reform voters will traditionally be older people who

1911
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 4: have always voted conservative and are now disgruntled with him

1912
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 4: and forage everywhere he goes. He even gets hit with

1913
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,480
Speaker 4: a milkshake the other day, laughed at all, smile, gave interviews,

1914
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 4: just keeps going. Sunak has problems.

1915
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, so does this affect Labor's position hitting into the ediction,

1916
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 3: you know, meaningfully? Or is there are scenes that all

1917
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 3: of the support for Raj in reform is ostensibly coming

1918
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 3: from people who would have otherwise been Tory voters.

1919
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right, Jack. I think Labor won't

1920
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 4: be worried about Faraj and the slightest, but they will

1921
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 4: benefit from him because in key seats, and it will

1922
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,919
Speaker 4: get really key in some places, you know, floating voters,

1923
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 4: elderly conservatives, if they desert sooner and give their vote

1924
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 4: to reform, that strengthens Labor. So Labor candidates I don't

1925
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 4: think will be that bothered about reform really, maybe in

1926
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 4: one or two seats up north, but I think overall

1927
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 4: they will be rubbing their hands with glee and just

1928
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,799
Speaker 4: delighted that the Conservative vote could splinter. Now, these poles

1929
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 4: may well be wrong, but as it stands, Keir Starmer

1930
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 4: is nailed on to be Brits Prime Minister on July

1931
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 4: the fifth, if you believe the poles.

1932
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right. As we've learned in recent years,

1933
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 3: there's always a big ifs. But I mean, certainly the

1934
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 3: Labor goes into this campaign with a huge, huge lead.

1935
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 3: They're being said. You know that the campaigns so far

1936
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 3: as an interesting in terms of momentum, right because those

1937
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 3: first couple of days were terrible for issue. Sooner he'd

1938
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,560
Speaker 3: announce the election and the pouring rat you had the

1939
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 3: song playing in the background. He went over to Ireland,

1940
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 3: ended up doing a press conference in the Titanic, the

1941
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 3: former Titanic neighborhood, which was, you know, a kind of

1942
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 3: visual disaster for him. But I would have thought that

1943
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Speaker 3: he was benefiting from a little bit of momentum out

1944
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Speaker 3: of that televised debate with Kostama the other day and preps.

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Speaker 3: This poll has kind of deflated him from you know,

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Speaker 3: whatevern momentum he might have been enjoying in the last

1947
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Speaker 3: day or two.

1948
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right, Jack. I watched the TV

1949
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Speaker 4: debate and I think Suna behaved like a boxer in

1950
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Speaker 4: the twelfth round who's just been told by his corner

1951
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Speaker 4: that the previous eleven rounds have gone to the other

1952
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Speaker 4: guy and you need to land the knockout punch. So

1953
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Speaker 4: he was extremely aggressive from the get go, talked over Starmer,

1954
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Speaker 4: talked over the moderator as well a Julie Etchingham. You know,

1955
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Speaker 4: he was very aggressive and quite rude, I thought, and

1956
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Speaker 4: it really struck me the body language and Sunak how

1957
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Speaker 4: he behaved. I thought, you know, two years almost as

1958
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister, we've never seen him behave like this. He

1959
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Speaker 4: just looked a little bit desperate and adrift. And the

1960
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Speaker 4: one thing he did say labor and now denouncing as

1961
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Speaker 4: a massive lie four thousand dollars per person tax trize

1962
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Speaker 4: if labor get in labor, or saying this is an

1963
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Speaker 4: outrageous life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your time, Indo,

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Speaker 3: we really appreciate it. UK correspondent into Brady. There the

1966
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Speaker 3: boss has just walked in fresh from the Radio Awards,

1967
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Speaker 3: holding a gong underneath his arm Best Network Station of

1968
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Speaker 3: the Year, Yep, you guessed it.

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Speaker 13: News Talk zid Bey.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

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Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with Hither duplic Ellen and my HR,

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Speaker 1: Talk zib right.

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Speaker 3: Oh that is us for an afternoon together. Thank you

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Speaker 3: very much for your company. This afternoon, colleagues at Newstalk

1976
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Speaker 3: Zidby will be celebrating the glory of this year's radio awards,

1977
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Speaker 3: including mister Mike Hosking, who I don't think anyone will

1978
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Speaker 3: be terribly surprised, but I picked up the top god,

1979
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Speaker 3: so that is fantastic news to play us out this

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Speaker 3: evening while we got ants Maggie May by Rod Stewart

1981
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Speaker 3: by Sir Rod Stewart to play us out tonight. He

1982
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Speaker 3: over the weekend his son Liam, that's one of his

1983
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Speaker 3: sons with Rachel Hunter got married to his longtime partner

1984
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Speaker 3: Nicole in Croatia. So this was a reunite, reunification of

1985
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Speaker 3: the whole Stuart's plan. So all eight good of his

1986
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Speaker 3: children yep, eight yes, So.

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Speaker 27: Sir Rod was there, Rachel was there, and then the

1988
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Speaker 27: kids Sarah Kimberly, Shawn Ruby, Renee, Liam Alistair and Aiden.

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Speaker 3: Very good, oh, very good, Thank you so much for

1990
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Speaker 3: that Antser. Christmas must be expensive for Sir Rod, but

1991
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Speaker 3: it puts Tempilson to shame, really, doesn't it certainly does.

1992
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Speaker 3: He won't be needing any of that special gel. Thank

1993
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Speaker 3: you so much, jas, Thanks to Laura for doing the

1994
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Speaker 3: tough stuff. Thanks to Livy for doing the buttons and dials.

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Speaker 3: This evening head us back tomorrow. News is next, though

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Speaker 3: it is almost seven o'clock. I'm Jake Tamman.

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