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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Andrew Dickens, on

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Speaker 1: earlier this show with one roof Love where you live

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Speaker 1: News Talk, said.

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Speaker 2: Be Hey, good morning to you and welcome to the program,

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Speaker 2: and thank you so much for choosing us and coming

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Speaker 2: up over the next hour. We still don't have enough

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Speaker 2: teachers for another academic year, so what can we do

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Speaker 2: about that. We'll talk about this in five minutes time.

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Speaker 2: With the price of chocolate going through the roof, can

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Speaker 2: we now start making it in the lab? The Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister said it with his own mouth. Changes are coming

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Speaker 2: to super so what is going to happen next? We'll

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Speaker 2: have correspondence from around the world, also around New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and news as it breaks, and you can have your

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Speaker 2: say by sending me a text and the number two

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: So it's Tuesday, the twentieth of January. We've got tragedy

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Speaker 2: on the rails of Spain. At least thirty dome people

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Speaker 2: are dead after a high speed train derailed and collided

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Speaker 2: into an oncoming service. The Madrid bound train jump tracks

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Speaker 2: near Adamus, with the worst damage happening to the front.

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Speaker 3: The impact was like a sudden blow. The light went out.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting in the last seats of the carriage

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Speaker 3: and I was thrown around. I don't know how many

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Speaker 3: times I rolled over. I don't know how I hit

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Speaker 3: my back. There were people screaming. All the suitcases fell

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Speaker 3: on top of people's heads.

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Speaker 2: Horrific and Spain is in morning now for three days

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Speaker 2: and Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says, a full investigation is

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Speaker 2: underwhere we're going.

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Speaker 4: To find out the truth. We're going to find down

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Speaker 4: the answer of the origin of the cause of this

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Speaker 4: charge of dinner, and we're going to be absolutely transparent

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Speaker 4: and we're going to be so clear, and we're going

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Speaker 4: to cherry with the citizens.

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Speaker 2: Of Spain now to Greenland, and once again the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister of this is they will not be pressured by

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's tariffs, and Sekia Stama from the UK schlimbed

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Speaker 5: Alliances endure because they're built on respect and partsure, not pressure.

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Speaker 5: That is why I said the use of tariffs against

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Speaker 5: allies is completely wrong. It is not the right way

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Speaker 5: to resolve differences within an alliance.

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Speaker 2: By the way Donald Trump has has been asked would

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Speaker 2: you seize would you seize green Land by forced? And

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Speaker 2: his comment is no comment. We wait. Meanwhile, into the UK,

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Speaker 2: Prince Harry's arrived in a London court group alongside other

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Speaker 2: big names like Elton, John Ashary. They're taking on the

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Speaker 2: Daily Mails publisher. They're accusing it of unlawful data gathering

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Speaker 2: using private investigators and people they call blaggers.

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Speaker 6: He will feel justified if he wins on some of

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Speaker 6: the counts, but I do think that he probably will

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Speaker 6: draw a line under it whatever happens after this case.

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Speaker 6: Because he's trying to reconcile with his own family. It's

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Speaker 6: slightly awkward for them because they're dealing on a day

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Speaker 6: to day basis with The Mail and other newspapers that

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Speaker 6: he's accused of wrongdoing.

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Speaker 2: And that's the agenda. It's nine minutes after.

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Speaker 1: Five News and Views you trust to start your day.

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Speaker 1: It's earlier Ship with Andrew Dickins and one roof Love

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Speaker 1: where you live news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be so. How about Graham Garnette. He's the tramper

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Speaker 2: who took a wrong turn and then went missing in

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Speaker 2: the Kahrangi National Park and wasn't found for three weeks,

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Speaker 2: even as his family gave him up for dead. But

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Speaker 2: So what happened to Graham? Well, after getting lost, Graham

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Speaker 2: sought to rescue himself. He kept moving rather than staying

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Speaker 2: and eventually he reached a known landmark. A bitally, he

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Speaker 2: got hurt a lot and moving around, but he kept going.

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Speaker 2: He followed streams and ridgelines and other natural features classic

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Speaker 2: survival navigation techniques. Eventually he found the Kadamea River. He

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Speaker 2: and then he was found. How good is this? Now?

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Speaker 2: They don't know what he ate to keep himself alive,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not sure I want to know. But here's

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Speaker 2: the thing about Graham Garnett. He is an old fashioned

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Speaker 2: bushman and that saved him. But perhaps it all could

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Speaker 2: have been a bit easier if he had a personal

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Speaker 2: locator beacon. Okay, sure I know this isn't Victim Waring

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Speaker 2: but look, a personal locator beacon costs about seven hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: But what would you rather do? Spend that money or

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Speaker 2: spend three weeks in the bush eating roots? Send me Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Trevis sent me a text which I find interesting. Ask Andrew,

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Speaker 2: did you hear that the people rescued in the way

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Speaker 2: helicopter company doing the rescuing three hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 2: And Trevor would like me to ask some questions about

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Speaker 2: the NZDTA about all this sort of thing. What do

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Speaker 2: you think about that getting charge for your own rescue?

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Speaker 2: I know overseas that happens all the time. Should it

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: We have a new academic year starting and guess what,

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Speaker 2: we don't have enough teachers. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: to the secondary Principal's council chair about what they're doing,

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Speaker 2: what they have done, and what they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: This is News Talks at.

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Speaker 1: Be the News you need this morning and the in

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Speaker 1: depth Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dicketts and One Root Love,

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Speaker 1: where you Live News Talks that'd be Y's.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you. It's how fourteen minutes after five,

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Speaker 2: and we've got new data OUTE this morning showing that

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Speaker 2: teacher shortages are getting worse as kids prepare to go

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Speaker 2: back to the classroom. Four hundred and forty five roles

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Speaker 2: are currently vacant nationwide. That is up twelve percent on

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Speaker 2: last year. Three quarters of those gaps are in the

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Speaker 2: North Island and one hundred and twenty five of them

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Speaker 2: are in Auckland alone. So Secondary Principal's council chair is

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Speaker 2: Steve mccrekan, and Steve joins me. Now, good morning to.

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Speaker 7: You, sir, Good morning Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Why is it still bad?

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Speaker 7: Wow, it's a very good question issue. I think teaching

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Speaker 7: probably perceived by the public. And there's a whole range

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Speaker 7: of things going on and the teaching and education set

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Speaker 7: point in time. But yeah, with these vacancies, we make

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Speaker 7: sure that things happen and that kids get the best

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have an aging and growing population. We are

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Speaker 2: losing teachers to retirement. We need a new generation. Are

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Speaker 7: I think there's definite work in the pipeline and the

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Speaker 2: Andrew, all right, why is the North Island so hard hit?

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Speaker 7: Well, there's probably a couple of things there, I think.

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Speaker 7: I think it's obviously population there, but also it's an

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Speaker 7: some really challenging situations in schools and in education right now.

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Speaker 7: Like what, Well, it's a range of things and if

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Speaker 7: you look at socioeconomic barriers and yeah, colleagues in the

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Speaker 2: So teachers don't want to go to South Auckland.

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Speaker 7: No, that's not the case at all. There's some amazing

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Speaker 7: there's different challenges in each sector as well.

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Speaker 2: Are they particular subjects that are worth hit?

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Speaker 7: maths and physics continue to remain a challenging area. But

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Speaker 7: I think that that's living a spread across nearly every

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Speaker 2: How is schools going to cope this year?

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Speaker 8: Then?

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Speaker 7: Look, schools are marketable places. Is everyone on the radio understands,

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Speaker 7: and those and teachers and school leaders across the country

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Speaker 7: make things work and putting extra resource where possible and

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Speaker 7: pulling managed responsibilities away just to enable teachers to be

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Speaker 7: school leaders and that will be working right now to

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Speaker 7: make sure that things happen for their kids and there

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Speaker 7: arrive at school come day one.

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Speaker 2: If they make it work. Should we be worried?

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Speaker 8: Still? Oh?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, because that means that there are other things that

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Speaker 7: that there's large curriculum reform and things that needs to happen,

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Speaker 7: we need to have the best possible people in front

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Speaker 2: It's changing the curriculum and changing it in CEA making

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Speaker 7: I think it's happening an impact and there's an additional

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Speaker 7: teacher workload and pressure on there in the long line,

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Speaker 7: it's probably going to be a better outcome for our

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Speaker 7: young people. However, there's a put a short term pain

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Speaker 2: Secondary Principles Council Chair the Education But it's Erica Stamford

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Speaker 2: will be joining Mike just after the seven o'clock news today.

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Speaker 2: It's the story that happens year after year after year.

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Speaker 2: Have you tried to buy some chocolate lately? Oh my

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Speaker 2: goodness me, you need to go and see the bank

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Speaker 2: manager first. It's so expensive. And the reason it's expensive

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Speaker 2: is the kakal being has gone through the roof. So

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Speaker 2: some bright smarts got the idea that we can actually

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Speaker 2: make chocolate in the lab. So how do you do that?

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Speaker 2: And is this the relief for the chocolate lovers who

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Speaker 2: is eighteen after five.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early

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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickins and One roof Love where You

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Speaker 1: Live News Talk said been.

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Speaker 2: Did you think Steve McCracken was waffling? Simon does? He says?

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Speaker 2: The teacher is talking waffle can't even answer the question

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Speaker 2: as to why teachers are short in Auckland. Simon's theory

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Speaker 2: is that it's because the union suppress wages by adhering

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Speaker 2: to collectivism. A lot of people are also talking about

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Speaker 2: the kids with no discipline and it's just not a

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Speaker 2: nice job. But yeah, I thought there was no real

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Speaker 2: answer to anything there, But there we go. Consistently rising

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Speaker 2: prices of the cacal bean is making chocolate tears look

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Speaker 2: for cheaper alternatives. So a new study shows the price

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Speaker 2: of cacao, the key ingredient and everyone's favorite sweet treat,

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Speaker 2: are now double what they were in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: So the confectory giants like Hirst He's in Cabri are

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Speaker 2: researching lab growing and genetically modified versions of the plant

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Speaker 2: to make our chocolate. So Mike Renfree, as a man

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Speaker 2: who knows and loves his chocolate, he's the head chocolate

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Speaker 2: maker regular Chocolate. It joins me. Now, hallo, Mike, what

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Speaker 2: a hell of a job you've got.

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Speaker 9: It's a pretty good job.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I bet how expensive is coco right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely right. It is double what it was back

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Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three. But that's really the you know,

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Speaker 9: that's the commodity price. The real world for most of

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Speaker 9: really directly linked to that commodity price.

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Speaker 2: Your prices go up, but will they go down?

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Speaker 9: They are down now, yep. I think we're talking about

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens. So election year is often running with

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Speaker 2: How Hey, good morning to you, welcome to the program,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to you Tuesday. I'm sorry, Northern, the whole heap

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Speaker 2: and Otaga Callum. Good morning morning, Andrew. So Denda is

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it gets flicked today, the switch one New Zealand

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Speaker 2: How's your weather?

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Speaker 2: So to Canterbury we going clear. Sure, we're good morning

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Speaker 2: So the Mainlander train is leaving the christ Church Railway station.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Of course, everyone loves a new service. Let's

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Speaker 10: Cloudy with more chance of showers today than clearing to

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Speaker 2: Wellington we go, Max Toll, good morning and happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: And to you good morning, lovely to hear your voice. Now,

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Speaker 14: because the library had nowhere to put them in the meantime.

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Speaker 14: Apparently the ones they prioritized for keeping were New Zealand books,

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Speaker 14: Wellington authors, Mardi authors and subjects. So perhaps if you

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Speaker 14: were hoping to loan out the Penguin classics or some

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Speaker 14: tall story or Keats, perhaps.

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Speaker 7: You may not be in luck.

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Speaker 14: How's your weather mostly cloudy, southerly's eighteen today's high very good,

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Speaker 14: NIVO RETTYMNU, good morning.

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Speaker 15: Good morning, Andrew.

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Speaker 2: People in Auckland are worried about going on public transport?

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Speaker 15: Yes, yeah, what do you do about this? So there's

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Speaker 15: another push to tighten the safety on public transport. Two

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Speaker 15: advocacy groups of this time they've come out them saying

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Speaker 15: look it's time for New Zealand produced transport police on buses,

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Speaker 15: trains in ferries now. They point to the several serious

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Speaker 15: events in recent months that we have heard about, including

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Speaker 15: the alleged assault of four Auckland train passengers that happened

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Speaker 15: in October. Campaign for Better Transport convener, that's Jody Johnston,

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Speaker 15: he says, has been Look, there's been major infrastructure upgrades

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Speaker 15: across the network and they don't want people feeling unsafe.

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Speaker 15: He says the last thing obviously in the lead up

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Speaker 15: to the City rail Link opening later this year. You know,

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Speaker 15: they want people deciding that they want to take the

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Speaker 15: train exactly.

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Speaker 2: How's the weather okay?

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Speaker 15: Well yeah, pretty bad, heavy rain easing toward evening, though

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Speaker 15: we've got these localized downpours possible north of the Harbor

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Speaker 15: Bridge this morning and strong winds easterly is and exposed

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Speaker 15: places twenty three the high today.

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Speaker 2: Neither I thank you as now seventeen to six. I

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Speaker 2: had a text through put your name on so I

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Speaker 2: can be nice and friendly. But someone says, what happened

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Speaker 2: to the swimmer? The guy who's going from Northland Northway

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Speaker 2: to Wellington for charity. Well, he's not doing it for charity.

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Speaker 2: He's doing it to highlight the protect of the sea

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Speaker 2: that we're not doing, which, considering I was talking about

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Speaker 2: what was happening with the fungal parah rock pools, I

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Speaker 2: think is a very important thing.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: His name is John O Riddler. You can follow his

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Speaker 2: project on Live Ocean. Excuse me, the Live Ocean, and

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Speaker 2: fifteen hours ago he said a weather update and hello

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Speaker 2: from John O. Bad weather and they're assessing it so

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Speaker 2: they've actually stopped. They will restart once it's safe to do.

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Speaker 2: John Oh is obviously crazy, but what a thing to do.

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Speaker 2: It's a thousand miles. Hey, it's seventeen to.

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Speaker 1: Six International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: It's now fourteen minutes to six, and we say Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year for the first time to Donna Tomyo out

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Speaker 2: of austraight the hello Donna Oh, Hello to you. See

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Speaker 2: Anthony Alberanesi's popularity is just dropping after his botched handling

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Speaker 2: of the Bondai terror attack. Now we have a special

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Speaker 2: sitting of Parliament to pass new laws.

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Speaker 13: Yes, the politicians have converged on Canberra two weeks early

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Speaker 13: in fact to debate these new laws on hate speech

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Speaker 13: and gun laws. And it is a special parliamentary sitting

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Speaker 13: to respond to the Bondai terror attack. Now, Anthony Albaniz

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Speaker 13: he's pushing forward to try to toughen hate laws. But

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Speaker 13: at that weekend he did have to abandon his plans

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Speaker 13: to criminalize the promotion of racial hatred. Now that's after

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Speaker 13: both the left and right side of politics criticized that plan.

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Speaker 13: But there are some significant remaining proposals, and that is

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Speaker 13: including a new gun buyback scheme and to attempt to

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Speaker 13: blacklist hate groups and deport migrants who disseminate hate. Now

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Speaker 13: it does look like the gun laws will pass with

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Speaker 13: the help of the Greens. Meanwhile, those proposed hate laws

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Speaker 13: are still seeking the support of the coalition. The Prime

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Speaker 13: Minister has said he he doesn't want division on the

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Speaker 13: floor of the Parliament. He says this is a moment

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Speaker 13: of national importance and he's trying to get agreement on

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Speaker 13: the way forward. So let's see what happens today. Yesterday

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Speaker 13: the sitting was focused on the passage of condolence motions

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Speaker 13: for the victims and we saw several MP's wipe away tears,

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Speaker 13: shed tears as they paid tribute to those victims.

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Speaker 2: Now, shark attack in Sydney.

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Speaker 13: Oh gosh, So a twelve year old boy, well, he

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Speaker 13: was he's critical now actually after a large shark attacked

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Speaker 13: him in Sydney Harbor. And we know that he was

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Speaker 13: jumping off a popular rock ledge near Nielsen Park in

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Speaker 13: Sydney's East. Now it's believed it's a bull shark that

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Speaker 13: was involved. Now we've heard though, according to The Guardian,

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Speaker 13: that it's understood the boy was swimming outside the net

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Speaker 13: enclosure at the time of the attack. Now we've also

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Speaker 13: heard that a surfer in his twenties is also critical.

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Speaker 13: And this happened just last night. There was another shark attack.

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Speaker 13: He's in a serious condition at a place called Manly,

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Speaker 13: which you may be familiar with. His leg was severely

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Speaker 13: bidden and now we know that twenty beaches have been

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Speaker 13: shut in that area until further notice.

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Speaker 2: Oh dear Donald Tomatow out of Australia. Meanwhile, in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: did you see the orcas? Orcers came swimming all around

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Speaker 2: the harbor. They went right into that little basin that's

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Speaker 2: right by downtown and people took the most astounding pictures.

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Speaker 2: And one of the most astounding pictures I saw was

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Speaker 2: the big thin of an orca heading towards the pontoon

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Speaker 2: that's off Oriental Bay. On the pontoon was a whole

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Speaker 2: lot of kids. There was one kid in the water.

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Speaker 2: You've never seen a kid swim for the pontoon as

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Speaker 2: fast as that kid when he realized that an orca

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Speaker 2: was coming for him in the middle of Wellington Harbor.

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Speaker 2: It's eleven to six news talks, that'd be all right.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday's State of the Nation address didn't really tell us

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Speaker 2: anything that we didn't already know, but there was one

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Speaker 2: comment that made everyone go, oh, he's going there and

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Speaker 2: made everybody prick up their ears.

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Speaker 6: First, to support New Zealander's financial security against the backdrop

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Speaker 6: of an aging society and an inevitable list in the retirement.

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Speaker 2: Age, an inevitable lift in the retirement age. So if

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Speaker 2: super needs to change, how should we do it? Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Erickson as a retirement expert with fifty years of experience

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Speaker 2: with superannuation policy, and he joints her. Now are the

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Speaker 2: Jonathan yeah Moo and Andrew as the Prime minister? Right,

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Speaker 2: the raising of the retirement age is inevitable.

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Speaker 8: Now with respect to the Prime Minister, there's a way

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Speaker 8: a better way of doing it, which is to change

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Speaker 8: the tax ranging from TT to ee T, which means

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Speaker 8: making contributions exempt for the employer and having a very

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Speaker 8: low rate of tax on the investment income and then

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Speaker 8: tax and benefit. And by doing that we grow our

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Speaker 8: superannuation pot get a lot more like Australia in fact,

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Speaker 8: and may we can keep the retirement ages sixty five,

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Speaker 8: which is clearly better for Pacific Islanders, Mari and a

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Speaker 8: lot of hardworking people who's backs give out before age

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Speaker 8: sixty five, so we don't even have to raise the age.

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Speaker 8: And the beauty of the system although it'll defer tax

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Speaker 8: for a while, means you don't have to change too

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Speaker 8: many things and you can implement it quickly.

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Speaker 2: So it seems simple to you. How come the government

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Speaker 2: doesn't know about this idea? And have you told them

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 8: I've tried to for years but they don't want to listen.

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Speaker 8: They're said in their ways, they're very short term focused.

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Speaker 8: They're trying to win the next election, and I could

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Speaker 8: assure Christopher Luxon this is not the way to do it.

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Speaker 2: I would suggest that actually even suggesting that they're going

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Speaker 2: to raise the retirement age would make them lose the election.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was quite a I thought he was

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Speaker 2: taking quite a risk to say this.

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Speaker 8: Now, Well, President Matt Kront had to change the prime

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Speaker 8: ministers in France three times in a few months because

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Speaker 8: they were trying to put the retirement age up to

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Speaker 8: sixty four in France.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if it is so look, if it is

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Speaker 2: so inevitable, And honestly, I've been saying this since Bulger

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Speaker 2: actually raised the age from sixty to sixty five, I thought, eventually,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to afford this. If

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Speaker 2: it has been so inevitable, when is the right time

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Speaker 2: to take the chance to actually introduce this while also

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Speaker 2: winning an election.

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Speaker 8: Well, the time is now. The whole world is in

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Speaker 8: a state of flux. You've got countries not knowing whether

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Speaker 8: they're an authority in the regime or democracy, and you know,

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Speaker 8: all's all over the place except town here, and we

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Speaker 8: need to get on and get New Zealand better aligned

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Speaker 8: to the retirement savings in Australia. I just happened to

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Speaker 8: be in Parliament buildings in Canberra yesterday and looked at

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Speaker 8: the portraits of Bob Hawk and Paul Keating. And in

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Speaker 8: nineteen ninety one they reduced their compulsory super with a

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Speaker 8: three percent employer contribution levy. And now they've got trillions

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Speaker 8: in super in Australia and that's funding all their infrastructure

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Speaker 8: and a lot of their development in tourism and other

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Speaker 8: things which we desperately need to grab our country.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, I got to go, but can you just tell

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Speaker 2: me what EET stands for?

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Speaker 8: Exempt exempt text? So you exempt the contribution income, you

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Speaker 8: exempt the investment income, and you tax the end benefit

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Speaker 8: and by taxing it, you actually offset the costs of

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Speaker 8: New Zealand superannuation to some extent without changing the retirement age.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jonathan, I thank you so very very much. It's

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Speaker 2: news talks. MP Andrew says John Luxan just lost the

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Speaker 2: election as no one will vote for changing the retirement age,

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Speaker 2: especially Winston who will go with labor horses in the

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Speaker 2: middle he should have said nothing to laugh at the election.

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Speaker 2: He has just shown more political and experience. But John,

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Speaker 2: is he just being honest? Is it inevitable? I'll listen

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Speaker 2: to that. That's the thumping of a set of infernes

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Speaker 2: arriving into debt. And that is Mike Hosking is ex.

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Love where you Live News

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Speaker 1: Talk said.

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Speaker 2: Been Mike, greetings. When Bulger changed the retirement age, the

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Speaker 2: way was that twenty twenty five years ago?

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Speaker 8: Whatever?

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Speaker 2: So I remember that I started doing stories about we've

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Speaker 2: got to do something about this. You know, there's a

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Speaker 2: population boom and we've got to do something about this.

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Speaker 2: And I remember thinking at the time, I bet this

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Speaker 2: is going to happen when I turned sixty. And I've

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Speaker 2: turned sixty, have you Yeah, you don't look at it.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're sweet, but but you know, here we go.

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Speaker 2: That is this is an election winner, even if.

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Speaker 11: That's it's not an election or whoever your text to

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Speaker 11: us before, For God's sake, I mean we've been arguing,

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Speaker 11: you know for years, nothing's changing that do remember. So

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Speaker 11: for the bloke who said he's going to lose the election.

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Speaker 11: This is not new what he said yesterday. I don't

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Speaker 11: know why we've actually leapt on it. What he said

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Speaker 11: is not new. It's a National Party thinking, which is

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Speaker 11: different to Keys thinking, of course, which was he was

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Speaker 11: very much for keeping the age the same. But it's

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Speaker 11: luctance thinking. They're not going to change that. Peters won't

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Speaker 11: move it. There's a coalition coming. If you can't move it. Therefore,

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Speaker 11: don't waste your time and election you're talking about it,

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Speaker 11: because nothing's going to get fixed, is it.

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Speaker 13: No?

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Speaker 2: No, But by the way, don't forget about it. Think

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Speaker 2: about it. It will happen one day. Well in some way.

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Speaker 11: I remember when I started working in nineteen eighty two,

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Speaker 11: I was of the genuine belief that the government, by

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Speaker 11: the time I got to sixty five, would not be

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Speaker 11: in the business of super emotion. And I adjusted my

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Speaker 11: life to that thinking.

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Speaker 2: And you know, so on this is what I like

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Speaker 2: to say to young folks right now. Don't rely on

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Speaker 2: the government to do your own product.

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Speaker 11: Now I have to sort it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get old.

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Speaker 2: Have you found some could well have well that's happened,

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