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Speaker 1: In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The

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Speaker 1: Mike asking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities, Life your

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Speaker 2: Welcome today, it's dart to day and insight into retail

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Speaker 2: and whether we're spending again, Insight into jobs and how

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Speaker 2: many we lost. We've got the social housing reset. Janet

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Speaker 2: Dixon are the real estate agent who refused to do

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Speaker 2: that compulsory Mari. Course she's lost in courts. Issues with

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Speaker 2: US politics. Wednesday, Mark and Jenny do the biz afterwage

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Speaker 2: Steep Price does the odds? Richinarnold does the states. Pasky

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day, seven past six job numbers of

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Speaker 2: course today, And it's not the five percent or the

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Speaker 2: fire point one percent. I'm worried about. What I'm worried

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Speaker 2: about is the attitude. The sad reality is, as far

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Speaker 2: as the numbers go, we've got a way to go,

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Speaker 2: apparently maybe five point five before the carnagens. But if

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Speaker 2: you want glass half full, it hasn't been as bad

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Speaker 2: as many had predicted. Some said six percent. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of like the mortgage cliff they said was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It didn't. Now the attitude is our real problem. We

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have, for example, a traffic light system because we

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Speaker 2: shouldn't need one. The new rule this week forcing the

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Speaker 2: jobs to prove they have actively applied for something shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be a thing either. What should be a thing is

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Speaker 2: fear and loathing. If you lose your job, you fear

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Speaker 2: the consequences. Your life plan has interrupted. Things aren't going

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Speaker 2: your way. Your path to success is at a speedbump.

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Speaker 2: You need to hustle and get on with it. What

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Speaker 2: must not be forgotten is a lot of people lose

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Speaker 2: their jobs. I mean, we've all lost our jobs for

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Speaker 2: one reason or another over the years. What differentiate most

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Speaker 2: of us is you don't end up on job Seeker

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Speaker 2: or the doll as we once called it. You're out

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Speaker 2: hitting the phones, printing the CBS, getting your face and

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Speaker 2: experience in front of others. We shouldn't have the Hospital

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Speaker 2: Association yet again calling on the government to change visa

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Speaker 2: settings for unskilled jobs when we have over one hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand people without work. But in that, of course, is

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Speaker 2: the rub I got sympathy for people who run the

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Speaker 2: cafes and can't get help. Why can't they because tragically

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Speaker 2: in too many cases, you wouldn't want the help. The

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Speaker 2: help is useless because they don't want to work. For

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Speaker 2: those who can't find work in their chosen field, the

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Speaker 2: factor government has to make you attend reskilling courses says

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Speaker 2: a lot about you. Why wouldn't you want to reskill?

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you want to make yourself more attractive? The

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Speaker 2: participation rate is always the number to watch today, bet

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Speaker 2: you anything you want. It's down. It's people giving up.

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Speaker 2: So we have a vicious cycle, a dead end economy

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Speaker 2: where some tragically who were working aren't, some who aren't

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Speaker 2: working and don't want to, and people looking for help

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Speaker 2: with work who can't find anyone so they want visa

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Speaker 2: settings adjusted. So it does not paint a healthy, prosperous,

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Speaker 2: getting ahead sort of picture, does it.

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Speaker 1: News of the world.

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Speaker 2: In ninety seconds to the shooting ourvernight in Sweden, I.

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Speaker 3: Was talking to our guy and he had like a

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Speaker 3: friend that was working inside the school that had sent

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Speaker 3: him a text messages that there were automatic rifle fire

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Speaker 3: and he was slaying down on the shoring Sidy school.

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Speaker 2: Initially there was reporting that police might be victims.

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Speaker 1: There are no police officers among the injured.

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Speaker 4: Because that was something that local media had been reporting.

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Speaker 1: At the time.

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Speaker 2: They had confirmed ten dead then in Britain, what might

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Speaker 2: be the story of the day of not the year.

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Speaker 2: So far and expert panel has looked into the Lucy

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Speaker 2: let the baby murder cases.

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Speaker 5: We did not find any murders. In all cases, death

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Speaker 5: or injury were due to natural causes by just bad

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Speaker 5: medical care. The medical evidence doesn't support murder in any

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Speaker 5: of these babies.

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Speaker 2: One of the politicians behind that pushed to have the

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Speaker 2: case reviewed, as David Davis.

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Speaker 6: None of it showed clear proof of anything. None of

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Speaker 6: it showed actually that a murder had occurred, let alone

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Speaker 6: that she was witnessed carrying out any improper act.

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to that in the moment. Then Trump

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Speaker 2: World Part one. The Chinese have announced potential terrorists, but

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Speaker 2: want Trump to pull back.

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Speaker 7: We need to work together to fight against the common

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Speaker 7: enemies of the world, like terrorism, like the climate change

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Speaker 7: targeting chainer is not the right way for.

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Speaker 2: But two, the RFK confirmation. The Dems were trying until

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Speaker 2: the end.

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Speaker 8: Do senators want their legacy to include disregarding basic health

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Speaker 8: science and instead elevate conspiracy theorists didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy got the vote to the nomination moves forward. That's

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Speaker 2: news of the world. In ninety seconds, there will now

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Speaker 2: be a full floor vote. That's how that works. China,

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Speaker 2: Just to just make this clear, they're going after the Americans,

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Speaker 2: maybe fifteen percent on colon liquified natural gas products, ten

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Speaker 2: percent on crude oil, agricultural machinery, and large engine cars.

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Speaker 2: Feb Ten is when it kicks, and that date's important.

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Speaker 2: They think they can talk their way back from the precipice,

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Speaker 2: So we watch and wait with interest. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, parle

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Speaker 2: AB speaking of tariff's very bad week for Mexico. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 2: they got Trump to step back, but they've got to

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Speaker 2: flood the border with ten thousand more troops. But then

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Speaker 2: yesterday Ecuador, in a kind of oh, we're doing tariffs,

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Speaker 2: are we cool, apply to twenty seven percent terriff on

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Speaker 2: Mexican goods. The president Nemboa he wants a free trade deal.

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Speaker 2: Until he gets a free trade deal, it's twenty seven percent.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen past six from day and my wife Andrew kellerher,

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Speaker 2: good morning, very good morning, Mike, I've never seen a

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Speaker 2: number like it. Arming. This is dairy lactose. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know it's a it's a niche product, but in

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Speaker 2: lactose it's seventeen point seven percent. I know.

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Speaker 4: What an option. I can't I can't profess to be

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Speaker 4: an expert in lactose pricing, but I look at the

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Speaker 4: three point seven percent rise in the index and I think,

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Speaker 4: and every product really doing reasonably well. And look, dairy's

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Speaker 4: fallen off the radar a little bit in the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks, hasn't it, given the broader discussion about

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Speaker 4: trade and impact of tariffs. But this is a timely reminder,

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Speaker 4: Mike that an important pillar of New Zealand's economic structure

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Speaker 4: is going very well. The dairy industry enjoying a strong

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Speaker 4: run of prices that's continued overnight. So four point seven

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Speaker 4: percent lifting skill milk powder, four point one percent lifting

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Speaker 4: whole milk powder, whole power to particularly been on a

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Speaker 4: very strong trend. Little retlacement December, but generally that tran

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Speaker 4: has been strong for the middle last year. Look, currency

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Speaker 4: is helping exporters as well. At the moment, we don't

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Speaker 4: notice the degree which that impacts here because Fonterra do

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Speaker 4: have a hedging policy in place. But this is a

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Speaker 4: bright light in the economic landscape.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it. But you're speaking of bright lights. Rod Duke's

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Speaker 2: with us after six thirty. But it was flat. But

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Speaker 2: it's still pretty good given everything, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: I think so? So you know, we've got labor market

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Speaker 4: numbers today make a key piece of data. Before February

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Speaker 4: review of monthly policy said, Look, we saw a bit

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Speaker 4: of a lull, haven't we In New year? We had

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Speaker 4: a bit of reality checking those confidence surveys released in January,

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Speaker 4: So you had a big lifting confidence latter part of

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Speaker 4: twenty four. But now we're we were really looking forward

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Speaker 4: to the full impact of lower interest rates overtween twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That's moderated a bit.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday the listed retail of Briscoes Group released their result

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Speaker 4: for quarterly sales to January twenty six. Now, these suggest

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Speaker 4: that that confidence lull could also be reflected in retail sales.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm comfortable using Briscoes as a bit of a

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Speaker 4: barometer for the retail sector. Look, it's not perfect, but

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Speaker 4: I think you can argue that it's one of our

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Speaker 4: most resilient and arguable experienced in successful retailers. So they

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Speaker 4: reported sales growth for the fourth quarter just under one percent,

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Speaker 4: not huge, but it is growth. Full year group sales

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Speaker 4: were pretty much flat on last year, two hundred and

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Speaker 4: forty five million wordth of sales. Rod Jukes suggest noted

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Speaker 4: that it was an extremely difficult year for retail, so

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Speaker 4: you have to say that achieving a flat result was

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Speaker 4: actually a good outcome. And I will speculate, Mike, I

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Speaker 4: will speculate that there will be plenty of other retailers

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Speaker 4: who would be very pleased to report.

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Speaker 2: A similar result.

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Speaker 4: So online channel that continues to grow now close to

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Speaker 4: twenty percent of overall sales. Expect net profit after texts

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Speaker 4: to be in line with recent guidance, So no surprises,

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Speaker 4: and they expect and Roger will speak to this, I suspect,

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Speaker 4: but they'll expect. The difficult retail environment to turn you

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Speaker 4: into the twenty twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Calendar year building where are we at?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was having a construction consents with December fell

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Speaker 4: five point six percent compared to November. November rose sort

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Speaker 4: broader view. Twelve months to end of December nine point

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Speaker 4: twenty three, So you got about thirty three thousand, six

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Speaker 4: hundred new homes consent across the country. One region did

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Speaker 4: There's no evidence here of an upward trend, but I

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Speaker 4: stable now for the whole second half of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: sitting around thirty three and a half thousand, obviously significantly

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Speaker 4: running it over fifty thousand consents. We've dropped back to

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen levels, but importantly it's not getting worse. Further

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Speaker 4: cuts to the OCO will be supportive of the housing market.

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Speaker 4: You'd look for recovery I think in the second half

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Speaker 2: We will. Indeed, what are the numbers, yep, dal.

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Speaker 4: Jones are all recovery? Who what's this tariffs thing?

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Speaker 2: Who cares?

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Speaker 4: The dal Jones forty four thousand, four hundred and seventy five,

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Speaker 4: nineteen thousand, five hundred and seventy seven, it's up one

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty six points, just under one percent. Google

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Speaker 4: numbers this morning little later as well. Forts one hundred

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Speaker 4: overnight down thirteen points eighty five seven oh the nick

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Speaker 4: five points eight three seven three. We gained three quarters

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Speaker 4: of percent yesterday ninety five bases points twelve, nine hundred

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Speaker 1: Kimi dollar has recovered US.

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Speaker 4: Dollar lower point five six four eight against the US

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Speaker 4: point nine oh three to zero Ossie point five four

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Speaker 4: three nine Euro point four to five two three pounds

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Speaker 4: eighty seven point twenty five Japanese yen gold still strong,

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Speaker 4: twenty eight hundred and forty one dollars. Small lift in

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Speaker 4: Brent crewed seventy six dollars and twenty two cents.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll see Friday you do in the four day.

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Speaker 4: Four day there You've got to talk out of products.

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Speaker 2: Productivity problem right there, and you think about.

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Speaker 1: That mitigating circumstances.

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Speaker 2: It was just life and getting through it well, said Mitch,

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Speaker 2: These days Okay, home where one point seven or one

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because a lot of people

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Speaker 2: It's good to talk to you. Rod appreciated very much.

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Speaker 2: Talks AB Mike disgraceful behavior by the AB halfback coach

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Speaker 2: you tell me what it's supposed to be as most

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Speaker 2: of it seems to pinned on the RB and the

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Speaker 2: interest rates fair call. Well, let me give you one example.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the fairies were a good example I gave

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Speaker 2: to Luxeon yesterday. But another example was the visas Chinese

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Speaker 2: Chinese tourists and visas. Luxon didn't have a clue what

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Speaker 2: was going on with that yesterday, so we went to

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Speaker 2: Erakistan office yesterday. Her answer I regard as being alarming

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Speaker 2: and we'll come back to that shortly.

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Speaker 15: Fourteen to seven International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 15: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business, Richard.

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Speaker 2: Anold Morning doing. Okay, so China's involved, but we got

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Speaker 2: fiebten so maybe maybe not right.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, China firing back after the Trump teriffs took effect

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Speaker 16: basaling retaliating with a series of measures. The Trump ten

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Speaker 16: percent tariff on all Chinese products took effect just after

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Speaker 16: midnight here. Then China responded, and this will be significant

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Speaker 16: depending on how long this trade war goes on. China

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Speaker 16: is putting a tariff tax on things like cold natural

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Speaker 16: gas and farm products from the US. But also China

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Speaker 16: is restricting the export of some critical materials. This includes

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Speaker 16: many that are used in high tech industries. That's going

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Speaker 16: to be an issue, isn't it. The United States depends

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Speaker 16: a lot on China for some critical minerals like gallium, germanium, graphite,

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Speaker 16: many others. Barreently limits on these could cause significant harm

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Speaker 16: to the US economy. So drugs, talking about prescription drugs,

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Speaker 16: medical drug prices here, the Trump tariffs are likely to

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Speaker 16: drive those prices way up. About half of the generic

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Speaker 16: drugs that people take in this country, including cancer drugs, antibiotics,

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Speaker 16: blood thinners, whole long list, are made entirely outside the

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Speaker 16: US of A because manufacturing is cheaper. Generic drugs account

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Speaker 16: for about ninety percent of all prescriptions filled here. So

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Speaker 16: if this goes on, people a lot of people are

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Speaker 16: going to notice. For instance, in Wisconsin today There is

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Speaker 16: a story of one family who has a filed a

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Speaker 16: lawsuit because their son, Cole Schmidneck, has died of an

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Speaker 16: asthma attack because he could no longer afford a life

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Speaker 16: saving in haaler. This twenty two year old, this fellow, Cole,

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Speaker 16: was living with severe asthma for his life and routinely

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Speaker 16: used and inhaler that cost him about one hundred and

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Speaker 16: seventeen dollars in New Zealand a month, but the cost

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Speaker 16: of that inhaler recently was sent right up to a

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Speaker 16: price of nine hundred and fifty five dollars a month.

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Speaker 16: This was a life sign saving medication. He couldn't afford

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Speaker 16: the thing. Just a few days ago he had a

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Speaker 16: severe asthma attack, his family saying he was struggling for

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Speaker 16: days and days to breathe. Then he fell unconscious because

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Speaker 16: he was using only an emergency in halo, which is

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Speaker 16: what he could afford, and he died a few days ago.

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Speaker 16: So in the trade war, who has the upper hand

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Speaker 16: in today's global market? The Wall Street Journal calls this

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Speaker 16: trade war quote the dumbest ever. That was an editorial

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Speaker 16: that they produced this week, and that newspaper's boss, Rupert

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Speaker 16: Murdoch just visited President Trump in the Oval Office. They

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Speaker 16: were sitting together. Trump then was asked this by a reporter,

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Speaker 16: the dunest trading work, dumbest trade war ever. Meantime, there

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Speaker 16: is a thirty day pause, as you know, on taris

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Speaker 16: for Mexico and Canada, where a couple of at a

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Speaker 16: couple of international hockey matches in Canada, the US national

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Speaker 16: anthem was booed by many Canadians, Canadians politest people on

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Speaker 16: the Plato or at least they used to be right.

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Speaker 16: Trump is claiming success with Mesico sending some troops to

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Speaker 16: the border and canadagreeing to some new border controls as well.

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Speaker 16: But that new Canadian border deal we're saying weeks ago,

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Speaker 16: i e. Before Trump even took office.

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Speaker 2: And then we come to the Sovereign Wealth Fund idea,

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Speaker 2: which I'm not against actually, but will it's separately end

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Speaker 2: up buying TikTok.

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Speaker 16: Well, it depends what you use it for, right, And

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Speaker 16: the Trump team is floating that, yeah, the government could

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Speaker 16: buy TikTok. We know that independent groups have been offering

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Speaker 16: to buy the Chinese own social media site. That story

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Speaker 16: has been playing out for months and months, but to

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Speaker 16: have TikTok as a government owned entity, state run media. Well,

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Speaker 16: that's something new in the Land of the Free, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: They're canvassing the sort of giving TikTok a seat in

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Speaker 16: the White House Briefing Room as well. The new Sovereign

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Speaker 16: Wealth Fund could be used for this purpose. As what

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Speaker 16: they're saying. This follows the eviction, as you've been speaking

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Speaker 16: about in recent days, of a number of major media

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Speaker 16: outlets from key seats in the White House Briefing Room,

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Speaker 16: which is a tiny space, and at the Pentagon. So

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Speaker 16: this is part of an ongoing assault on major media.

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Speaker 16: The Trump team also has begun a review of sponsorships

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Speaker 16: used by public Broadcasting here and National Public Radio again

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Speaker 16: government run and community sponsored radio network, because I don't

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Speaker 16: like the coverage. So that is after the White House

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Speaker 16: barred the New York Times, NBC, in PR, and Politico

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Speaker 16: from those Pentagon seats. There is also a spike in

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Speaker 16: deformation cases, numbers of them were seeing. Some major outlets

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Speaker 16: like American ABC are paying multimillion dollars settlements instead of

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Speaker 16: fighting these things forever in court at who knows what cost.

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Speaker 16: The publisher of The New York Times has written an

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Speaker 16: op ed in the rival Washington Post. He says Trump

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Speaker 16: seems to be attempting to do in this country what

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Speaker 16: Victor Auburn did in Hungary. Instead of jailing journalists, says

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Speaker 16: The New York Times Boss, they use licensing and contracts

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Speaker 16: while suing traditional media so that after a time only

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Speaker 16: government friendly media remains. The independent media in Hungary virtually

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Speaker 16: was dismantled. Some are raising concerns about the fate of

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Speaker 16: America's freeze.

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Speaker 2: So Friday m't appreciate it. CBS is the one to

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Speaker 2: follow as well. A sixty minutes interview with Carmel Harris

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Speaker 2: that the arguments they're looking to settle it, and there's

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Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of fury within CBS. By the way,

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Speaker 2: RFK they're going to have a floor vote. Will keep

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Speaker 2: you posted on that. The Senate has confirmed Chris Wright

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Speaker 2: as the Energy Secretary. He's a fracker CEO of Liberty Energy,

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Speaker 2: and a really cool video if you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: of him in what appears to be a hotel room

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Speaker 2: up against a hotel window in his underwear gy rating.

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Speaker 2: So that's a little something to maybe keep you entertained

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Speaker 2: on White Agi day nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mite Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news Dogs,

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Speaker 1: dead bees.

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Speaker 2: So tourism eighty seven percent risk of the world's ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent. Many countries are over one hundred percent post COVID,

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Speaker 2: wh're not eighty seven percent. It's a disaster. So one

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Speaker 2: of the problems. One of the ideas floated is that

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Speaker 2: what we do is reciprocate the deal with China. China,

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Speaker 2: do you need a visa to go to China? Know

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Speaker 2: you don't, so why don't we reciprocate? Well, Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: didn't have a clue, so we went off to Erica

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Speaker 2: Stamford Immigration Minister's office yesterday and they told us these

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Speaker 2: bleas obvious that they're not a visa away of a country.

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Speaker 2: Sixty countries are. They're not, But you can, if you

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Speaker 2: want to fill out the paperwork and spend hundreds of dollars,

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Speaker 2: come here on a multiple visit visa. But our point

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Speaker 2: being if you didn't have a visa, it wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: a problem. The moment you say, look, you need a

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Speaker 2: lot of pieces of paper and hundreds of dollars, you

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it. So make it easy it's been

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Speaker 2: in place since twenty fourteen and it is a benefit,

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Speaker 2: not a restriction. What a pile of bollocks. Get them

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Speaker 2: into the country five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business paper take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: JL have had a look at cafe culture to only

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Speaker 2: in Auckland. I'm sorry, but when do we buy our coffee?

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Speaker 2: They've used data from Google and the answer is Thursday,

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Speaker 2: most popular day for the cafe between eleven and midday.

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Speaker 2: They put that down to people going up from mid

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Speaker 2: morning client meeting. What a pile of rubbish. How do

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Speaker 2: they possibly work that out? They're guessing anyway, it's eleven

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Speaker 2: o'clock Thursday, Wednesday and Friday just a little bit behind Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Monday and Tuesday a bit quieter. They think that's probably

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Speaker 2: because no one goes to the office on Monday and Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: because everyone's working from home outside of Thursday at eleven,

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Speaker 2: busiest period between seven and nine for ob is reason

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Speaker 2: four fifty to seven dollars is the price you paid

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Speaker 2: four fifty to seven dollars anywhere between four fifty and

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Speaker 2: seven dollars? What are you getting for seven dollars And

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Speaker 2: next question, why are you spending seven dollars on a

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Speaker 2: commercial cup of coffee? Now, I'm not anti hospial, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to run businesses down, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, at seven dollars, you have two coffees

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Speaker 2: a day, fourteen dollars a day times five or maybe

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Speaker 2: only times three because you only work three days a

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Speaker 2: week or a week light? Do you only worked three

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Speaker 2: days because you're taking the Thursday and the Friday and

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Speaker 2: the Saturday and the Sunday. Anyway, the release of the

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Speaker 2: data is they hope businesses can use it as a

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Speaker 2: model for success to help drive down retail vacancies and

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Speaker 2: the CBD. What would help drive down retail vacancies and

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Speaker 2: the CBD if people got off their ass and actually

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Speaker 2: went to the office stop working from home. We need

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Speaker 2: and executive order on that. Every time Luxem walks into

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Speaker 2: the studio, I start talking about executive orders and he

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Speaker 2: shakes his head at me. I'm infuriating him at the moment,

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Speaker 2: because of course we don't have executive orders for fairly

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Speaker 2: obvious reasons. Chris Bishop was out yesterday reorganizing social housing.

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Speaker 2: They got half a billion dollars worth of houses worth

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Speaker 2: more than two million dollars. It's nuts, so at last

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Speaker 2: they're finally doing something about it.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast show Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate finding the

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Speaker 1: buyers others can't use togs.

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Speaker 2: eNB Wanting seven past seven, the Social Housing resets on.

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Speaker 2: They're selling the ones worth a lot in rebuilding new

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Speaker 2: ones for less, so they're selling nine hundred ish fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred get built. The Housing Minister Chris Bishop is with us.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 17: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: The debt issue they carry, how quickly does that get sorted?

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Speaker 17: The debt will be about one point eight billion dollars

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Speaker 17: lower in three to four years time than it is

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Speaker 17: than it was four past to b which is good.

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Speaker 17: They will still carry debt and you'd expect that because

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Speaker 17: there's a large entity with a large number of assets.

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Speaker 11: So that's fine.

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Speaker 17: But of course we have fundle of that debt as

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Speaker 17: tax payers. That comes off our you know, the Crown's box,

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Speaker 17: the government's box, so it is important that we get

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Speaker 17: that debt under control. We've got a balanced plan here

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Speaker 17: where we're continuing to build more houses, but as you say,

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Speaker 17: sell five otheru ones, sell ones in the wrong location,

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Speaker 17: ones where they're just simply uneconomic to upgrade. It does

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Speaker 17: make sense just to sell the house or sell the

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Speaker 17: land that the house is on. So it's a balance

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Speaker 17: plan where we've got a plan to invest and keep

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Speaker 17: the housing stock the same, but have much more focus

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Speaker 17: on cost control. So KO was building at about twelve

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Speaker 17: percent above what the market was building at, for example,

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Speaker 17: and so that's unsustainable. And I think everyone listening on

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Speaker 17: many people listening will have stories about KO coming to

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Speaker 17: town with the big checkbooks from the last government, plenty

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Speaker 17: of easy money, plenty of cheap debt. KO comes to

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Speaker 17: town and the price goes up for building materials and

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Speaker 17: for land, and you know, there's a whole lot of

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Speaker 17: quite crazy decision frankly, and so we put in under control.

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Speaker 2: That make some match stuff that you you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a big que of people twenty thousand,

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Speaker 2: most of them want one beds. Why put a one

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Speaker 2: beady person in a three bedroom and remy, we're are

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Speaker 2: worth two and a half million dollars. Is that lack

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Speaker 2: of rigor or is it simply, you can't forecast what

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Speaker 2: people are going to need twenty years down the track.

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Speaker 17: It's a lack of rigor and it's the system not

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Speaker 17: responding quickly enough or effectively enough. So we're changing the system.

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Speaker 17: And one of the things well Bed working on really

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Speaker 17: hard this year is moving to a much more deliberate

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Speaker 17: purchasing role for the Crown when it comes to what

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Speaker 17: people need, and we're going to be really looking at

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Speaker 17: individual customers and individual clients and what they need. So

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Speaker 17: as you say, fifty percent of people on the register,

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Speaker 17: they just need a one bedroom unit. They don't need

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Speaker 17: a three or four bedroom unit. They just need a

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Speaker 17: one bedroom unit. And actually we can build that really cheaply,

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Speaker 17: and some of the stuff we're doing on the granny flats,

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Speaker 17: for example, make it easier to build one and two

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Speaker 17: bedroom granny flats on properties will make a real difference there.

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Speaker 17: So they just need a one bedroom unit. But it's

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Speaker 17: fifty percent of the register, twelve percent of what KO owns.

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Speaker 17: They've known about that for twenty years, frankly longer, and

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Speaker 17: it's just successive governments, particularly the last government, have not

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Speaker 17: been really clear about what they're trying to build Basically

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Speaker 17: the story of the last government was they gave them

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Speaker 17: billions and billions and billions of dollars of debt and

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Speaker 17: operating funding and just said, build as many houses as

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Speaker 17: you can, and we don't really care where they where

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Speaker 17: you book them, and we don't really care what they cost.

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Speaker 17: We just want houses. As a result, the organization had

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Speaker 17: to scale up really quickly. They did build quite a

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Speaker 17: lot of houses in the last two three years, but

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Speaker 17: those houses have come at huge expense. You'll have seen

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Speaker 17: those one point five million dollar apartments in Auckland, for example.

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Speaker 17: I mean, KAO should not be building massively expensive, ornate

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Speaker 17: apartments with Juliette balconies and all sorts of bells and

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Speaker 17: whistles and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Where we should Where were the board that you've got

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Speaker 2: rid of? Will they quit? Were they under riding instructions

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Speaker 2: or were they incompetent?

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean all I can say is we changed

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Speaker 17: the board and that was one of the first recommendations

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Speaker 17: of the independent review we did in the first quarter

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Speaker 17: of last year to refresh the board. I don't want

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Speaker 17: to get too much into the details of it, but

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Speaker 17: I suffice to say we've been we were unhappy with

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Speaker 17: the organization and opposition. We were unhappy when we came

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Speaker 17: to government. The review born that out and we've made

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Speaker 17: the changes.

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Speaker 2: Well, good luck with it, Chris Bishop, Housing Minister. I

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Speaker 2: think he answered it without answering it didn't need to.

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Speaker 2: Eleven minutes past seven pass goods started today. Consensus seems

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Speaker 2: to be will have lost about thirty thousand of them

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Speaker 2: in the past year, which will give us an unemployment

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Speaker 2: rate of about five point one ish as economist Henry

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Speaker 2: Russell with US Henry morning.

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Speaker 13: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: What's your number.

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Speaker 13: We're at five point one two, so that would be

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Speaker 13: from four point eight percent in the previous quarter, and

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Speaker 13: it looks like everyone's landed around the same figure today.

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Speaker 2: With a peak of what and when.

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Speaker 13: So our current forecast is for the unemployment rate to

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Speaker 13: peak at five and a half percent in the middle

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Speaker 13: of this year. But recent data has actually been slightly

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Speaker 13: more encouraging and that we have seen a return and months.

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Speaker 13: We feel jobs data over the past two months and

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Speaker 13: part of the reason the young employem isn't lifting isn't

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Speaker 13: likely to list so high as that we are also

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Speaker 13: seeing a strongest response from the supply side. Less people

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Speaker 13: are exiting the workforce, most likely because jobs are harder

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Speaker 13: to come by and potentially chasing better opportunities offshore. So

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Speaker 13: the hopes that we do rights to appeak slightly below

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Speaker 13: that sometime in the first half.

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Speaker 2: It's like the mortgage clippers are saying earlier on in

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Speaker 2: the program, it's sort of the doom days never really came,

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Speaker 2: which I suppose is the glass half full scenario. Do

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Speaker 2: you see something positive in the latter part of next year?

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Speaker 2: Is that the whole scenario of what we're hearing from

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Speaker 2: economists at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely. I think it is important to note that these

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Speaker 13: data today are very much a reflection of where the

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Speaker 13: economy has been rather than necessarily where it's going. So

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Speaker 13: the labor market does tend to lag the broader economic cycle.

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Speaker 13: And what we've seen over recent months is that the

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Speaker 13: recovery is underway in the economy. Business confidence has risen sharp,

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Speaker 13: the consumer confidence is recovering, card spendings now trending. Hi,

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Speaker 13: there's a lot of positives, but you know, these things

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Speaker 13: do take time. It won't be accident, but the second

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Speaker 13: half this year it is certainly likely to be brighter.

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Speaker 2: Big ship slow turn Henry go well, appreciate it. Henry

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Speaker 2: Russell ains at Economist twelve minutes past seven, pask here's

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Speaker 2: the key to the scandal. I raised it at the time.

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Speaker 2: I said, there is no way in the world TJ

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Speaker 2: was doing that with everybody's knowledge, No way in the world.

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Speaker 2: I won't name names, but I know some people and

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Speaker 2: I can tell you right now that they were looking

746
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Speaker 2: at that and these are people in the All Blacks.

747
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Speaker 2: They were looking at that game. What the hell happened there?

748
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Speaker 2: So finally the story is out in the Herald this morning.

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Speaker 2: Here's the key to it. Piranara, because it was his

750
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Speaker 2: final game, wanted a solo show, so he was going

751
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Speaker 2: to not just leave the Harker, but he was going

752
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Speaker 2: to give you a little bit of something beforehand. Wouldn't

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Speaker 2: tell anybody what that was going to be. Red Flag

754
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Speaker 2: number one, wouldn't tell anybody what it was going to be.

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Speaker 2: Message of unity, he said a few hours. I quote

756
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Speaker 2: the story a few of course. At this point, it's

757
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Speaker 2: a lot of angst in the All Blacks. And you

758
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Speaker 2: can see why New Zealand rugby is in the state

759
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: it's in because there was angst all over the place.

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Speaker 2: A few hours before kickoff, the coaching and management group,

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Speaker 2: as well as a few players, became aware that Perinara

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Speaker 2: was no longer willing to lead the Harker without being

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Speaker 2: able to offer a message of unity. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: he was blackmailing them red flag number two. At that point,

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Speaker 2: you say, TJ, tell us what it is. You're on

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Speaker 2: the bench. Simple as that, the specifics of what exactly

767
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Speaker 2: would be said were never discussed. Red flag number How

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Speaker 2: many red flags?

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Speaker 14: You want?

770
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Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Union and you want it? Of course

771
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Speaker 2: they were ringing us last night. They could not come

772
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Speaker 2: on this program fast enough to explain them. Oh hold

773
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Speaker 2: on what, Oh no, sorry, no one's available to defend

774
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Speaker 2: themselves as per usual with the New Zealand rugby Union.

775
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Speaker 2: And you wonder where rugby's in the state, It's in

776
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: TJ goes, hey, I want to do something special and

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Speaker 2: the rest read the whole story. It is everything that

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00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: is wrong with one Rugby and two New Zealand. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: past seven.

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Speaker 2: B Janet Dixon, Maori Course real estate. You know the story.

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Speaker 2: She's with us after a seven thirty seventeen past seven.

784
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: We've got the fruit bowl of New Zealand ripe and

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00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: ready for the picking harvest time in the bay. What

786
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: are we talking about? Apples? Of course, and when I

787
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 2: say the Bay Hawks Bay Groves reporting the earliest crop

788
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: they've seen in decades, it's important because nearly two thirds

789
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: of our apples come from the Bay Hawk's Bay Fruit

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Speaker 2: Groves Association President Brighton this but with us Brighton, very

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00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 14: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. You had a perfect storm

794
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Speaker 2: and no pun intended there. Obviously it's all come together

795
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Speaker 2: we otherwise I take it. Listen.

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Speaker 12: It's looking incredibly good this year. We had a fantastic

797
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Speaker 12: winter which set up good winter chilling units and set

798
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 12: up the bud an extremely early spring. In a fine spring,

799
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Speaker 12: we didn't get a lot of rain, so everything's set

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Speaker 12: for a fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Harvest volume v quality.

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Speaker 12: If you got both, we've got both a huge volume

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Speaker 12: out there. The quality is good, that the apples are

804
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 12: sizing up, the colors fantastic. Of course, we need cooler

805
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 12: knights to bring up the color and we've had a

806
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Speaker 12: lot of cool nights and at the moment, we're kind

807
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Speaker 12: of sitting in the mid twenties through the day and

808
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Speaker 12: dropping down to ten.

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Speaker 11: Or eleven at nights.

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Speaker 12: So it's just it's a perfect breed for a.

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Speaker 2: Great absolutely perfect labor.

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Speaker 10: You got it.

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Speaker 12: Baby's good. No, we have a support of government. Labour

814
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 12: doesn't seem to be too much of a problem anymore.

815
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Speaker 12: We have backpackers back in town. We have rscs. Here

816
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 12: are valued workers from the Pacific who are just fantastic.

817
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 12: We couldn't do what we could do without them. And

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Speaker 12: of course we've got kiwis around about as well.

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Speaker 2: What about the size of the industry posts the storms?

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Speaker 2: Is it smaller than what it was?

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Speaker 14: It's a little bit smaller.

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Speaker 12: You'd be surprised that, you sa. We had about eighty

823
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Speaker 12: growers about four thousand hicctares affected from the floods, and

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Speaker 12: out of four thousand hctores, we had six hundred and

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Speaker 12: ten that were completely wiped out that some will never

826
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Speaker 12: be planted again. Some well, but pre twenty twenty three

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Speaker 12: floods we're only only in a deficit of about one

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Speaker 12: hundred and one hundred and ten hectares. I think good,

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Speaker 12: that's not plat.

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Speaker 2: Do you know anything about what? Godcha, do you know

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Speaker 2: anything about grapes? Not really, it's just so maybe I

832
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Speaker 2: just followed the grapes and they'll be picking very shortly.

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Speaker 2: Would would though? It should be good for the grapes

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Speaker 2: as well, shouldn't it.

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Speaker 14: I think it'll be good for the grapes.

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Speaker 12: It's definitely good for the for our vegetables, the onion harvest,

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Speaker 12: the good to squash out there is just doing fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Love it, go well with it, enjoy it, brighton this

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Speaker 2: but hawks by fruit Gross Association tell you what I'm

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Speaker 2: excited about it. In my place, I've got apples, a

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Speaker 2: lot of apples. He's right about. I mean, I'm the

842
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Speaker 2: north of him, obviously, but the apples are good.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 2: Our apples are crap though they're old fashioned apples. No

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Speaker 2: one wants our apples unless you're going to do something

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Speaker 2: like stew them. So we don't pears. We've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of pears. But the figs fig season, which I

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Speaker 2: reckon might before. I'm thinking maybe a month to go

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Speaker 2: absolutely Gangbusters had them netted up the other day. Ready

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Speaker 2: twenty three Buckle up. Looks like I might agree with

870
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: the Trade Union. Yes, CTU Policy Director Craig Rennie is

871
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: worried about the same thing I'm worried about, and I

872
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: think he's right to be worried. What he's worried about

873
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: is the possibility that we will become a net exporter

874
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: of population. Oh, the irony as an exporting nation, as

875
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: we've just been talking about with the apples of one

876
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: of the growth industries. As it turns out to people,

877
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: we're exporting people. If you follow the migration story these

878
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: past couple of years, couple of large and some would

879
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: argue alarming things have happened. One a huge number of

880
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: people have arrived. Two a huge number of people have left.

881
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: Things are sort of starting to settle. The arrival numbers

882
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: are tailing off, but the departure numbers, although not breaking

883
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: the records they were, are still large. The key part

884
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 2: of that numeric equation is we're at a tipping point.

885
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: It is more than possible that if the arrival numbers

886
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: drop just a little bit more but the departure numbers don't,

887
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: we will have more people leaving than arriving. We will

888
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 2: be a net exporter of people. The really scary thing

889
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: about that is more than about maths who it's the people,

890
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: you know. One in one out isn't an and of

891
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: itself a good thing. Of the out is a brain surgeon,

892
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: and the inn is an uber driver. The overall picture,

893
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: a shrinking population is a disaster because for every person

894
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: who thought too many arrived and they had no houses

895
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: and that whole debate, having a shrinking population is as bad,

896
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: if not worse reputationally. It's catastrophic the country no one

897
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: wants to live and think about it not normally a

898
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: portrait of a robust, successful, prosperous nation, is it. What

899
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: it says is those looking to move here don't fancy it.

900
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: They pick somewhere else. Meantime, those already here look to

901
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: leave for brighten or appealing pastures. We are the ugly

902
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: girl in the corner of the school dance. It's a reminder,

903
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: as if we needed it, that this country has a

904
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: series of problems the size and severity that we have

905
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: not faced in many a long decade. Asking why can

906
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: you believe West Bake Girls High is having a work

907
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: from home day? Yes I can do. You know why

908
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: I know about that because we're doing it at ten

909
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: to eight this morning. Stand by for that. That's yet

910
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 2: more malaise in this country. So tomorrow off back to

911
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: work Friday. Why would you be bother? Let's have a

912
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: let's have a work from home day. They're claiming it's

913
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: to prepare for emergencies. You must always be prepared for

914
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: an emergency. I mean, come on, Mike, Bay of Islands

915
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: picking chardonay the past two weeks, good on you? Or

916
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: the landing, well that's beautiful. Look up the landing and

917
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: see if you want to go there and stay for

918
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: a while. Mike, if your company said you must take

919
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: a week long course in Toroyo, lose your job, what

920
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: would you do? It's very good questions. The vactually mandate

921
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 2: all over again, that's different to the rule. So it's

922
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: the threat of you losing your job. Most people would acquiesce,

923
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: you know, but grudgingly and go okay, I'll do it.

924
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: I don't like it. I mean, let's be frank and

925
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: I will talk to Janet about this very shortly. Most

926
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: of us have to do things we don't want to

927
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: do in some way, shape or form in our jobs.

928
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: That's just life. But the bigger picture is the principle.

929
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: Does a group in this case, the real estate people

930
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: have the right to impose upon you in this case,

931
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: what I would have thought of self employed people the

932
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: ability to follow orders the court said as of yesterday. Yes,

933
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: so where does that go now? So we'll talk a

934
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 2: bit about that as well. Can I also just quickly

935
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: congratulate Tory far Now. I was there a moment ago

936
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: agreeing with a union. I'm also now for the first

937
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: time congratulating Tory fun Now. Yes said, I know it's

938
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: something something's gone wrong with me. I need tomorrow off.

939
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: She said she should have done a term as a

940
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: counselor before running for the city's top job. So she

941
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: is useless of that. There is no question. The Wellington

942
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: Council are useless of that, there is no question. But

943
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: at least now she has the wherewithal to be honest

944
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: and open about that, and for that, good on her.

945
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 14: It's more that she's agreed with you, really, isn't it.

946
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: You can put it that way, Glenn, But I'm taking

947
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 2: the higher ground.

948
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored backs

949
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking, Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life

950
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951
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: Mike Mike School and the wire rapper basically told everyone,

952
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: if you want to take Friday off, make it a

953
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: long weekend, go for it. If the kids come to school,

954
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: it'll be a sports day. I know of two other

955
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: schools doing the same thing. So David Seymour's kind of

956
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: let's all get back to school and try and rectify

957
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: our educational crisis doesn't seem to have worked that well.

958
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: Also this time yesterday, by the way, roughly we were

959
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: talking to the Prime Minister render I raised UNRA. Nobody

960
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: seems to care in this country. But this woman who

961
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: was talking to Keir Starmer over the weekend, a freed

962
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: hostage British Israeli told them she had been kept as

963
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: a hostage in an UNRA headquarters. And this is an

964
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: aid agency run by the United Nations that we pay for,

965
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: we pay a million dollars to, And I thought, well,

966
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: hold on here. We reviewed them last year because we

967
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 2: thought they were sus then, and are we worried about

968
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: it now? And of course I suspect from the comments

969
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: coming from Winston Peter's office that they didn't know anything

970
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: about this. As discussed is what they told us yesterday,

971
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: as discussed. Currently, one million parandom is allocated to UNRU

972
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: with a single payment made by June each year. In fact,

973
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,439
Speaker 2: taken to a count information on the ground of matters

974
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: of integrity of aid organizations funded. A recommendation will be

975
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: made which will be shared with the Minister. Obviously, the

976
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: recent information following the release of the hostages by Hamas

977
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: will be taken into account. Will keep you posted on

978
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: when a decision on funding is mode. Doesn't seem that

979
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: they were over the exercise about it says such a

980
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: weird thing, isn't it that? The other thing I might

981
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: mention briefly is there seems to be a level of hysteria.

982
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: This is not me defending what Trump is doing, but

983
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: there seems to be a level of hysteria around USAID

984
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: and it closing down. And that seems to be the

985
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: beginning of the middle and the end of the reportage.

986
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: USAID is not being closed down. USAID is being folded

987
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 2: into the State Department, the argument being Marco Rubiez in

988
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: charge of the State Department. The argument being is that

989
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: USAID had completely and utterly out of control and the

990
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 2: stuff that they're supposed to be spending money on they're not,

991
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: and they want it tidied up, and so meantime, while

992
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: all that's going on, everyone's going.

993
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 10: Oh my god, at the end of the world.

994
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: It won't be the end of the world. It's never

995
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: the end of the world. It'll just be slightly different.

996
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes away from eight now didn't end well

997
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: for Janet Dixon. So she's the real estate agent who

998
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: refused to do the seed as it's called, which is

999
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: the Maria te Tidity treaty. Course all real estate agents

1000
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: must do as of twenty twenty three when they made

1001
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: it compulsory. This was fought in the courts, and yesterday

1002
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: the judge all the real estate agent's authority were within

1003
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: their rights to make it compulsory. So what now Janet

1004
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: Dixon's will this good morning?

1005
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 18: Hey morning mate.

1006
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: I saw I saw this coming, not because you're not right,

1007
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: but because courts don't necessarily deal with common sense, they

1008
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: deal with the sort of the rule of law. Are

1009
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: you Are you disappointed?

1010
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 18: Correct?

1011
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 10: No? No?

1012
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 18: No, I mean personally I had no hopes because I

1013
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 18: just didn't believe that anyone would have the courage to

1014
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 18: front up. Yeah, two bigger, too, bigger, two bigger kickback

1015
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 18: to come exactly because of the issues.

1016
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: Has it been worth the fight in your view?

1017
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 18: Oh gosh, yes, because we are fired up for step two.

1018
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 18: Just to clarify the as a real estate salesperson I've

1019
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 18: been forced to do. Try to Mari Tikkanga and the

1020
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 18: Treaty of White tonguey enforced compulsory education. I said, no,

1021
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 18: they will take my license. The thing is, the result

1022
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 18: says that the court believes that it is okay actually

1023
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 18: to force the entire country, in all work to do

1024
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 18: the same thing, to go through this kind of brainwashing

1025
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 18: with no relation whatsoever to your work. And I have

1026
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 18: been brought up amongst Maori I've taught in too, Mari school,

1027
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 18: et cetera, et cetera.

1028
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: I don't need it, no, And for practical purposes, it

1029
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: doesn't make any difference in selling a house, or having

1030
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: an open home, or going to tender any of that.

1031
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Does it or does it?

1032
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 18: It has no reflection on our work none where to

1033
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 18: do with contract law and disclosure and in buying and

1034
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 18: selling properties.

1035
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 10: Yep.

1036
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: What I find interesting is that I thought real estate agent,

1037
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: so this was the association that had, according to the court,

1038
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: the right to impose this particular law and make it compulsory.

1039
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: I thought you guys were self employed.

1040
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 18: Yes, but we still are under a augh the Justice Department,

1041
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 18: the Real Estate Authority is a crown entity, so yeah,

1042
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 18: we've got obligations under there, and Dave, at this point,

1043
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 18: they've got the power to do it. And you know

1044
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 18: what the in the Act it says it doesn't so

1045
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 18: they can't. No, nobody ever dreamed that anyone would do this.

1046
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 18: And our next thing is to change the lawmak that's

1047
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 18: what we're doing.

1048
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 2: Well, changing the law. What about change? What about the

1049
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: body itself? Is the body itself of an ideological stand

1050
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: that if you've got different people within that body, they

1051
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: would take a different decision to the one they've taken

1052
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: or not.

1053
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 18: I believe so. Yes, I think it's this particular crowd,

1054
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 18: the CEO leading yep. I believe so, and they've been

1055
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 18: on it for a couple of years before it started.

1056
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. What about the counter argument? And that is that

1057
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: in life sometimes you've got to suck up some stuff

1058
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: and it is what it is.

1059
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 18: Mike, this was way over the line. I will not

1060
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 18: sit down and learn how to worship the Maori gods.

1061
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 18: I'm a full one hundred percent current to Christian. Sorry,

1062
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 18: that does not work for me. Nobody can make me

1063
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 18: do that. And you know, if for nothing else that

1064
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 18: was it no way.

1065
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 2: So what are you going to do now because your

1066
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: license will be suspended. I'm taking it.

1067
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 10: Yep.

1068
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 18: I've got twenty days to for you know, to recount.

1069
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 18: But we've now been joined by the Free Speech Union.

1070
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 18: So we've got Hops, we've got Frank's Ogilvy amazing busy

1071
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 18: writing the law and Hops and Fredge during the funding

1072
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 18: and others, and now we've got the Free Speech Union.

1073
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 18: We're tooling up, not stepping back.

1074
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: Nice to talk to Janet Jennet Dixon real estate agents

1075
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: and it's away from Ape Scar. Speaking of which of

1076
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: the Treaty Principles related issue, I read a submission. It's

1077
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: the first full submission I've read so far of the

1078
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: Treaty Principle's hearings, which are ongoing. It's written by David Harvey.

1079
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: It was on the news room website. He runs Internet Law,

1080
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: Internet dot Law dot NZ. He's a retired district court judge.

1081
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: It's a proceeed version, but not that proceed It was short,

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Speaker 2: it was succinct. I don't think you can argue with it,

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Speaker 2: and this is what he've said. He starts by going,

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Speaker 2: I'm a retired District Court judge. Edmund Burke, reference to

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Speaker 2: a British politician of the seventeen hundreds, thought that society

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Speaker 2: is an enterprise that promotes the interests of all parties,

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Speaker 2: and that partnership depends on respecting those interests. Burke believed

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Speaker 2: that the ends of this partnership cannot be achieved in

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Speaker 2: a single generation, so it is a partnership between multiple generations.

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Speaker 2: Government is a liberal democracy, or in a liberal democracy,

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Speaker 2: involves the government on the one hand and the governed

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Speaker 2: on the other. Government is a liberal democracy governs with

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Speaker 2: the consent of the government. The consent of the governed

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00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: legitimizes government expressed by regular plebiscites. The consent of the

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Speaker 2: governed may be withdrawn by the plebiscite, in which case

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Speaker 2: a new government governs with the consent of the governed.

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Speaker 2: These arrangements are in the nature of a partnership, as

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Speaker 2: articulated by Burke, between the government and the government. An

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Speaker 2: element of that partnership is that the government will govern

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Speaker 2: in the best interests of everyone that includes groups of

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Speaker 2: the governed and naturally includes Maray. The description of the

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Speaker 2: bill as simplistic is based on a misunderstanding of its

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00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: purpose and substantive content. The bill, by implication, incorporates all

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Speaker 2: the existing principles that are being developed and articulated. Rather

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00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: than suppliant or replace the treaty or supplant, it should

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00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 2: say supplant or replace the treaty. It enhances its meaning

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Speaker 2: as a guiding document for the proper governance of New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I submit that the bill should be reported back to

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Speaker 2: the House with a recommendation that it precedes. It can't

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Speaker 2: get any simpler than that, can you. Seven forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks at b Mike.

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Speaker 2: There's a direct link between your earlier story about net

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Speaker 2: loss of people in New Zealand and Janet Dixon interview.

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Speaker 2: Probably right, I said earlier at the start of the program.

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Speaker 2: I think this is certainly the story of the day

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Speaker 2: of not the story of the week of not story

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Speaker 2: of the year. This let be case in Britain, Lucy

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Speaker 2: let Be Nurse global headlines when she got stuck in

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Speaker 2: jail for fifteen life sentences, and yet today, up until

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Speaker 2: we had to drum up a bit of interest in

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Speaker 2: our newsroom in this story, because it wasn't around the

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Speaker 2: place until we alluded.

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Speaker 10: Them to it.

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Speaker 2: There's a group of experts from a variety of countries.

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Speaker 2: These are medical experts. They backed by a veteran MP

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Speaker 2: guy called Sir David Davis, who we featured earlier on

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Speaker 2: in the program. The chair of this particular panel is

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Speaker 2: a retired medical called medic called Dr Shu Lee. Panel

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Speaker 2: of experts from Canada, the US, Japan, Germany, Sweden and

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Speaker 2: the UK. They looked at all seventeen cases. Lucy let

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Speaker 2: Be was found guilty of seven murders and attempted on

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Speaker 2: another seven, so there's a fourteen strong panel. They've looked

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Speaker 2: at each In every one of the cases, they can

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Speaker 2: argue medically there was no murder. She did not murder

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Speaker 2: any babies. They've got significant new evidence. She's serving fifteen

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Speaker 2: whole life sentences seven babies, attempted to murder seven others,

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Speaker 2: so they've got them down to natural causes. Alleged others

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Speaker 2: were due to substandard care. So they're now looking to

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Speaker 2: go to the Criminal Cases Review Commission. And you've got

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Speaker 2: to ask yourself and Davis said this himself. He said,

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Speaker 2: this might well be one of the greatest injustices in

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Speaker 2: the modern justice system. In our opinion, the medical opinion,

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Speaker 2: the medical evidence does not support murder in any of

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Speaker 2: these base It's not like they can't explain three. They

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: can explain every single one of them. Now, if they're right,

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Speaker 2: explain to me how the British justice system was able

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Speaker 2: to hear both signed to the equation and come up

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Speaker 2: with a conclusion they did, and if they are right,

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Speaker 2: the medics and they can prove that they are right.

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Speaker 2: And she gets let out, how worried about the British

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Speaker 2: judicial process?

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Speaker 10: Are you?

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Speaker 2: Ten minutes away from it?

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities News togs

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Speaker 1: head bes but away from it.

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Speaker 2: So in a sign of the times, I guess Westlake

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Speaker 2: High which is in Auckland, is having an online learning

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Speaker 2: day this Friday. Why because tomorrow's the day off, of course,

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Speaker 2: and staff and students will be working remotely. The school

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Speaker 2: says it's important to prepare for any future emergencies. So

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Speaker 2: the Principal's Association President voughn Coyo's with us on this

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Speaker 2: born morning to you good morning.

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Speaker 10: Have a new year.

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Speaker 19: We haven't had a chet this year, No, we.

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Speaker 2: Have, so we're having a new year to you too.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon it's really about emergencies, or it's really

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Speaker 2: about having Thursday off and you can't be bothered with

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Speaker 2: a Friday.

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Speaker 19: It's probably not can't be bothered, but it is relatively

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Speaker 19: complicated whenever there is a public holiday that falls on

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Speaker 19: a Tuesday, and the Thursday complicated in their families that

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Speaker 19: are able want to take advantage of a longer weekend

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Speaker 19: and parents might take an annual leave day to make

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Speaker 19: it four days, and that has a little bit of

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Speaker 19: conflict with or it creates a little bit of tension

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Speaker 19: with us wanting to engage in classes and keep our

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Speaker 19: tendencyles up, which is also something that's getting a lot

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Speaker 19: of focus nationally.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, has did David Seymour when

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Speaker 2: he said we've got to get back and teacher only

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Speaker 2: days and all that stuff he said last year? Was

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Speaker 2: he wasting his time? Essentially?

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Speaker 19: Well, it wasn't wasting his time because we all want

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Speaker 19: kids back in school, but there are some pragmatics that

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Speaker 19: you've got to deal with. So firstly, when he said

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Speaker 19: that last year he probably hadn't checked with Minister Stanford,

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Speaker 19: who had just given schools to two teacher only days

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Speaker 19: for twenty twenty five to deal with curriculum change, and

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Speaker 19: then when guidelines came out at the end of last year,

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Speaker 19: there's also discretion for schools to do another two across

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Speaker 19: the year if they make the numbers up in terms

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Speaker 19: of days open, So schools are able to do up

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Speaker 19: to four teacher only days through the year as approved

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Speaker 19: by the Minister of Education.

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Speaker 2: Right do do schools in general send out some sort

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Speaker 2: of note saying please be reminded that all though Thursday's

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Speaker 2: a holiday, Friday isn't, so how about we all turn up.

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Speaker 19: Not necessarily with each other on mass like that, but

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Speaker 19: certainly within their community. So it's not uncommon for schools

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Speaker 19: that are all within a particular area to go, hey,

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Speaker 19: what are you doing because I don't want my kids

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Speaker 19: out on Friday if your kids are in because my

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Speaker 19: kids Illinois, yours and all that sort of things. So

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Speaker 19: it certainly is some local conversation within a.

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Speaker 2: District because we sort of go to the school that

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Speaker 2: we really should be going to the parents. Apart from anything,

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Speaker 2: every parent who's taken the kid out of school on

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Speaker 2: Friday knows full well that what they're doing they shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be doing. I mean, that's the truth of it, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: That is the rub.

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Speaker 19: And on days, on days like Friday or Monday, when

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Speaker 19: the public holidays on a Tuesday, historically we've seen abysmal attendance.

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Speaker 19: We've seen it drop down to I think one principle

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Speaker 19: was saying less than fifty percent of the last few

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Speaker 19: times that's happened. And so that's not kids exercising discretion.

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Speaker 19: That's parents are saying, let's have a longer weekend.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, Bone, must to catch up with you.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk again in twenty five on COYO, who's the

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Speaker 2: secondary School of Principles Association four minutes away from eight

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Speaker 2: asking the destruction of Wellington seemed to me to be

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Speaker 2: complete yesterday with the news that the official valuations are

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Speaker 2: out for the year and buy in larger average houses

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Speaker 2: down twenty five percent. It's been a long time. I

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Speaker 2: couldn't remember a time when a city or a town

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Speaker 2: has been so systemically or systematically destroyed by shearing competence

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Speaker 2: of the leadership of that particular city. You know, the

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Speaker 2: price of your house is a reflection of demand, and

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Speaker 2: the reason the demand is where it is is fairly obvious.

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Speaker 2: It starts at Tory far now goes down through the council.

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Speaker 2: I know somebody like label would blame the government for

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Speaker 2: all the job losses in the public service last year,

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Speaker 2: but I personally would blame labor for inflating the public

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00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: service to a ridiculous degree. The pipes that burst, the

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Speaker 2: crap that flows through the streets, the golden mile that

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00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: isn't remotely golden, the buses that don't work, the buses

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Speaker 2: that do work but go up the wrong street, and

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Speaker 2: so it goes and then suddenly banked. The house is

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Speaker 2: worth twenty five percent less.

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Speaker 1: The news and the news makers the mic asking breakfast

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Speaker 1: with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and use togs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be some reporter, Jess. We spect that the next

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Speaker 2: executive order coming from the new United States President, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: as he's going to sign to close the Education Department.

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00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 2: So this is similar to the USA thing. He'll have

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00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: found some things in there that he doesn't like, and

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00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: he'll fold it into somewhere else. So they're they're fascinating times.

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Speaker 8: This is literally one aside beside, I don't think I

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Speaker 8: can't make it that far.

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Speaker 1: I'm sleeping at the dove today.

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Speaker 2: Your congratulations, lindmall Craft. It's incredible. This is Bonnie Prince Billy,

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Speaker 2: who's actually Will Oldham. I don't know why you just

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Speaker 2: don't call yourself Will old and why why would you go?

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Speaker 2: I don't like Will Oldham. I might call myself Bonnie

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Speaker 2: Prince Billy anyway. His album is called The Purple Bird

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Speaker 2: because he's country. Yes, he's the sole writer of several songs,

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Speaker 2: but they don't illuminate your so clear this is a

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Speaker 2: kind of country that you don't like, Is that right?

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Speaker 3: She said?

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Speaker 1: And don't get at home soon?

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if it's more hymn and if somebody

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Speaker 2: else sing, if will he sing this, would I like

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Speaker 2: it better? But no, it probably wouldn't. Also upsetting me

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Speaker 2: is that there's got twelve tracks but no times associated

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Speaker 2: with him. So I can't tell you how long The

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Speaker 2: Class well, I can say it's too long, but apart

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Speaker 2: from that, not much more specific aim in its past

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Speaker 2: eight Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell's with us along with Ginny

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Speaker 2: Anderson morning, you guys, did you get the Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: the biggest house owner in all of Parliament market if

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Speaker 2: you had a house in Wellington.

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Speaker 10: I hear. But it's on the market at the moment.

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Speaker 2: What's it on the market for a fire sale? What's

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Speaker 2: going on there? Have you seen the heaven? You've seen

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01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: the valuations that came out yesterday.

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Speaker 10: Not great, not great at all. No, that's right.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 20: At the moment, I'm sitting at the Treaty Grounds outside

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Speaker 20: the froy Walker Cafe. I'm here for a breakfast meeting

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01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 20: that started with the Northern EE leaders and we're just

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Speaker 20: debating about whether I moved because otherwise that we're going

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 20: to hear the show the side of the show.

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Speaker 2: Oh so I thought you were going to say you're

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: here for a meeting at eight o'clock, but no one

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01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: showed up yet.

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01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 20: No, no, no, it's a full meeting. But yeah, I'm

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01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 20: just worried about No, I'm not in any here eyeball.

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Speaker 20: So it means that I'm not disturbing the breakfast too much.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff, Ginny. As regards Wellington and twenty five percent,

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01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean that's for a lot of people you know,

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: significantly material, not just material, but significantly material, and a

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01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: lot of people have their savings and houses. Of course,

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Speaker 2: what's gone wrong with Wellington? Do you think for that

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Speaker 2: to happen?

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Speaker 9: Well that central sort of city feeling is that it's

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Speaker 9: just had the guards kicked out of it, so that

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Speaker 9: it wasn't just the public service, but it was all

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Speaker 9: of the local economy went down when those jobs got cut,

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Speaker 9: and it's dragged everything down further and that's had a

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Speaker 9: real impact on confidence in the local economy and must be.

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Speaker 2: Longer than that, because this is from twenty twenty. I

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Speaker 2: can't remember twenty twenty one to twenty two. Someone on there.

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Speaker 9: There is a little that the public service cuts make

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Speaker 9: a big difference. And these people in the Hut Valley

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Speaker 9: and out in all, how do you all those people

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Speaker 9: have either jobs associated with the public service or they're

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Speaker 9: selling a service or doing a doing a thing that

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Speaker 9: relies on those incomes. So it has a twelvefold impact

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Speaker 9: in Wellington when you see big, big kicks like that.

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Speaker 9: But the kicker is for those people who bought at

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Speaker 9: the peak of the market when they paid quite a

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Speaker 9: bit for a home and now it's worth quite a

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Speaker 9: bit less in that, so they've got a big mortgage

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Speaker 9: rate and the asset is now worth less than what

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Speaker 9: they pay.

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Speaker 20: But Jinny, do you understand that what you guys did,

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Speaker 20: and I think it's cruel. You were on a massive

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Speaker 20: hiring spree. You bloated the government. As a country, we

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Speaker 20: can't afford. It is awful when you have to make cuts.

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Speaker 20: Those are tough decisions, but the fact of the matter

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Speaker 20: is you put us on a fast track to a

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Speaker 20: third world country and there had to be changes. So

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Speaker 20: I just I just find it amazing that you're still

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Speaker 20: let You're saying that you wouldn't have made any cuts.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'll respond to that. I worked as a public

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Speaker 9: student the last time National was in government and they

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Speaker 9: did the same thing. They cut everybody back. And what

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Speaker 9: happens about now in the mark from now on is

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Speaker 9: that when the government has big projects that they need

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Speaker 9: to deliver and all those people with institutional knowledge had

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Speaker 9: even been fired or left.

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Speaker 10: Finished.

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Speaker 9: Pa, let me finish. We have something called consultants who

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Speaker 9: come in at approximately three to five hundred dollars an hour,

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Speaker 9: and that's what will go up now under your government

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Speaker 9: is the cost of consultants as you try to get

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Speaker 9: projects finished, and there's no public servants.

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Speaker 2: Before just before I leave before until this descend let's

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Speaker 2: not have a descendity Tory fun Now. Speaking of Wellington Ginny,

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Speaker 2: she said, I thought it was interesting you should serve

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Speaker 2: a term as a counselor before you're a leader. Is

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Speaker 2: that in general? Is that good advice? In your experience?

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon well?

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Speaker 9: I think it's important to know how local government works.

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Speaker 9: I don't think EF Brian would have the ability to

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Speaker 9: serve as a counselor, but I think understanding how your

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Speaker 9: local government works is incredibly important to being a good representative.

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Speaker 2: It'll be wide well. I mean your path through the

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Speaker 2: public service, for example, before you went into parliament. That

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Speaker 2: must have stood you in reasonable stead, mustn't it, as

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Speaker 2: opposed to just coming in cold and going I wonder

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Speaker 2: how this works.

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Speaker 9: I think understanding the mechanics of government is incredibly important,

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Speaker 9: and that's what a lot of people are missing. They

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Speaker 9: come straight in and expect to make big decisions without

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Speaker 9: actually knowing what the spillover effects are, and we're definitely

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Speaker 9: seeing that with THEO.

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Speaker 20: I think the best thing that you can bring to

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Speaker 20: public service is life experience, and I think that Jenny's

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Speaker 20: was in P and HQ, that's cooled.

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Speaker 10: Mine was on the front line.

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Speaker 20: I think you actually have to be in touch with

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Speaker 20: what people need and what they require from government to

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Speaker 20: be able to.

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Speaker 9: Deliver with it was a bit more than just PN HQ. Mark.

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Speaker 9: I've been around for a wee bit longer than that,

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Speaker 9: so I've also been a negotiator for the Office of

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Speaker 9: Treaty Settlements. I've also worked for jud Collins and helped

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Speaker 9: your advise.

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Speaker 10: On the caps Edith calling to her, I advise you

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Speaker 10: keep claiming.

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Speaker 9: That I was in her office. I didn't say office.

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Speaker 10: Judith hates it when Jenny says that loves it.

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Speaker 2: Mark, did you did you have you got one of

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Speaker 2: those cvs Jinny that says I worked for Judith Collins.

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Speaker 2: If I looked at your c V.

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Speaker 9: I got nickname. I got the crush in that name.

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Speaker 10: She she goes trumping and she worked for Judith.

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Speaker 2: So hold on here, Jimmy, so you're the original crusher.

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Speaker 2: You're claiming you're the original crusher as well.

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Speaker 10: I did so.

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Speaker 2: You were crushing Jenny before she was crushing Collins, and

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Speaker 2: you worked in your office despite the fact, she says

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Speaker 2: she didn't.

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Speaker 9: They were like, we want to crush cards and we

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Speaker 9: don't know how to do it, and we're like, my goodness.

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Speaker 10: Jenny, Jenny, Jenny's a crush of dreams and jews of cars.

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Speaker 2: Brief break more on the moment thirteen past eight The.

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Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on I Heard Radio

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Speaker 1: How News Talks It.

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Speaker 2: Be sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Jinny Anderson, Mark Mitchell Withers, Ginny,

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Speaker 2: you won't like the but I've done some research during

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Speaker 2: the ad break, But you bloated the public service. And

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Speaker 2: when Jacinda came to power, remember you Cinder, your consultant

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Speaker 2: bill was five hundred and fifty million. By the time

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Speaker 2: she left it was one point twenty seven billion, So

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Speaker 2: you bloated the public service. Plus you hired the consultant,

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Speaker 2: so you can't possibly defend that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, you've.

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Speaker 9: Also had a global pandemic happening in that period. Mic.

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Speaker 9: The consultants, they well, when you had to try and

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Speaker 9: roll out of vaccine and get everyone up running, you sept.

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Speaker 9: The bill did go up, but I will say that

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Speaker 9: I got cut way back under national to the point

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Speaker 9: where it's be a bone, so a bit of that building.

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Speaker 2: Back any money. We haven't got any money, Markey. You

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Speaker 2: Mark in cabinet about the tax cuts, tell us all

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Speaker 2: about those.

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Speaker 20: No, there's been no discussions. Well, we don't discuss what

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Speaker 20: happens in can it. But that's obviously Nicholas going to

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Speaker 20: be looking at all options because the reality is you

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Speaker 20: all added the last initial government. Under the last initial government,

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Speaker 20: we were constantly lorded from being a rock star economy. Well,

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Speaker 20: and that's we're taking us and we're taking ourselves back.

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Speaker 20: We've got a messive hang over things to you guys,

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Speaker 20: but we're moving in the right.

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Speaker 9: Direction, driving it deeper into the ground.

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Speaker 2: To me, absolutely not, do you think Mark. We had

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Speaker 2: Rod Duke on from Briscoes earlier on this morning and

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Speaker 2: he reflected, interestingly, a lot of what's being said to

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Speaker 2: me privately from leading business people, as much as they

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Speaker 2: may back you or not as much as they may

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Speaker 2: wish you well in doing what you're trying to do

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Speaker 2: the economy. You're not doing enough, you're not going hard enough,

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Speaker 2: and you better get on with it fast or is

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Speaker 2: you're going to get punished. And I can cite yesterday's

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Speaker 2: pole that sort of seems to confirm there.

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Speaker 20: Look, and that's why this year the Prominence has been

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Speaker 20: very clear that it's the top priority for us in

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Speaker 20: terms of unleashing economic growth so that all New Zealanders

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Speaker 20: can get ahead again, you know. And there's a big

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Speaker 20: plan and that's been rolled out. Were fast treking projects

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Speaker 20: for economic significance. We're pursuing trade and investment, We're getting

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Speaker 20: rid of red tape, We're making sure people have the

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Speaker 20: skills they need to succeed.

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Speaker 10: So there's going to be a that is a massive

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Speaker 10: focus for us this year.

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Speaker 2: The pole, ginny, funnily enough, has you, guys. There's been

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Speaker 2: two poles by the same people, the people who poll

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Speaker 2: for you, but you're in government now.

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Speaker 9: The first one wasn't us. I don't think the first

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Speaker 9: one was curier curios.

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Speaker 2: Correct. So both poles have you. They didn't have you

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Speaker 2: in government. This one does, but they have you in

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Speaker 2: government with the Mary Party. Don't the Marry Party freak

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Speaker 2: you out? At some point You've got to get freaked

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Speaker 2: out about them, don't you.

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Speaker 9: Well, they don't freak me out as much as the

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Speaker 9: police presence here because David Seymour's here. So I think

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Speaker 9: David Seymore is a greater risk to national security right

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Speaker 9: now than a ridiculous state.

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Speaker 2: Why can't why can't you go to a treaty ground

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Speaker 2: in this country or any ground for that matter, and

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Speaker 2: just just deal with David Seymour as a human being

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Speaker 2: who might have a different opinion from you. Why do

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Speaker 2: you have to go?

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Speaker 20: I think that's a good point and the approach it's

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Speaker 20: been taken up for you too, by the way, and

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Speaker 20: I have to do a massive shout out to the Trust.

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Speaker 9: Well, apart from Minister hasn't fronted up Mark, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not fronting up either. We're all having a day off to.

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Speaker 10: Today. The price is going to be with them today

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Speaker 10: should get real.

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Speaker 9: But today isn't why Tony Day. Today is the political

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Speaker 9: por forty. There's absolutely no reason why I couldn't have

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Speaker 9: gone today and then gone to why Tony Ku and tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: The reality is, might I agree with You've got the

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Speaker 10: Merry Party coming.

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Speaker 20: Out and saying that they're going to put an all

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Speaker 20: powerful commissioner over the top of a democratically elected prime

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Speaker 20: minister and it's going to be labor who's that they're

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Speaker 20: going to be partners.

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Speaker 10: Who's going to have to explain it.

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Speaker 9: I think you are stid of drumming that up away,

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Speaker 9: bat Mark.

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Speaker 2: I think that a regular commissioner who does nothing apart

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Speaker 2: from put out press releases, or is it a commissioner

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Speaker 2: with power? And if it is with power, you got trouble, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: because you wouldn't want that, would you.

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Speaker 9: Well, there's no detail because they even't announced that, and

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Speaker 9: they're their own party and they're entitled to have their views,

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Speaker 9: but there's absolutely no detail as to how that would

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Speaker 9: work right now.

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Speaker 20: So they'll be your partner in government. So you're going

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Speaker 20: to have to figure that one out, Jenny.

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Speaker 9: Will have to wait and see if that happens. As

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Speaker 9: you say, when we ask you about stupid things that

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Speaker 9: David Seymour wants to.

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Speaker 10: Are you yes? I am.

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Speaker 2: Have you had it fun so far? Was it a

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Speaker 2: nice one? I mean, it's a beautiful place to be

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Speaker 2: apart from anything else, isn't it.

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Speaker 10: It is starting place.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've had some lovely visits. We went out to

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Speaker 9: and visit in the last couple of days and we

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Speaker 9: met with all the kids who are doing the Waker

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Speaker 9: Arma and it's been really lovely, good experience.

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Speaker 2: Cool. What about you make yes?

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Speaker 13: Same.

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Speaker 20: I mean, yesterday we did a tour around the north

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Speaker 20: so big shout out for calvity caves where the glow

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Speaker 20: whimsor honestly, if you get a chance to go and

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Speaker 20: visit the do it. It is an outstanding experience. You've

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Speaker 20: got Nafta Springs, big investment in there. That's the outstanding.

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Speaker 20: Of course, the footprints of Coupe Over and the hok

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Speaker 20: So I visited those three locations yesterday.

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Speaker 10: I met with the locals, you know, and there's so

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Speaker 10: much to do up here. I mean, Northland is just

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Speaker 10: such a true Is.

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Speaker 2: It possible mark that given this meeting you're holding at

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Speaker 2: the moment in you and not actually part of it,

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Speaker 2: that you don't need to be at the meeting.

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Speaker 10: Of a bit of a bit of a bit to

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Speaker 10: go join the meeting. So see what I bring to it.

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Speaker 10: Take you.

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Speaker 9: We saw a housing too, We saw Nazi Jenny's done

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Speaker 9: their own housing so under us whole big social housing

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Speaker 9: and that's just nearly finishing.

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Speaker 2: Will they all poll worth two and a half million dollars?

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Speaker 9: No, there was a big mixture of one twos threes.

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Speaker 9: But there's a big housing shortage up here and they

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Speaker 9: need more and it's a shame that they're not building

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Speaker 9: more under this cuvery.

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Speaker 2: Have a good day to I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Thee Next week, Jenny Anderson, Mark metroll A twenty two.

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Speaker 2: thirty two, never into politics, but politics Wednesday is one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite parts of the week. I hate Jinny,

1551
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 2: but I love her at the same time. And Mark

1552
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 2: just laughs half the time but has a lot of

1553
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Speaker 2: common sense. Keep those two on for as long as

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Speaker 2: you can, Mike, why didn't you ask Jinny about the

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Speaker 2: food and schools in her Postnard? That Carolyn, that was

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Speaker 2: Jantinetti and the hamburger wasn't Jinny? It with Jantinet who

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Speaker 2: posted the hamburger, and the hamburger turned out to be from, unfortunately,

1558
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: the Labour administry, so she had to delete that tweet

1559
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: fairly fast. I watched a press conference yesterday. It was

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Speaker 2: with a woman called Joe Halen. If you've listened all week,

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Speaker 2: you'll know that I've been on. She was the woman

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Speaker 2: who hired the ministerial driver in car and took her

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: friends to the Hunter of Alley for some wines and

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01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: then the Plorod driver worked about thirteen hours. Turns out

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Speaker 2: that there might have been a second trip, and indeed

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Speaker 2: there was. Turns out might have been that the driver

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Speaker 2: came and had to pick up her kids to take

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Speaker 2: them to school sport on Saturday. And all the while

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Speaker 2: I asked this week, how is it possible this woman

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 2: hasn't been sacked? And still she wasn't sacked, and in

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01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: that is a kind of a story. Yesterday she did, though,

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Speaker 2: fall in her sword by resigning, so she might well

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: have either come to her own conclusion or maybe she

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01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: was forced to resign, but nevertheless she's gone. But the

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01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: story itself go some way to explaining just how fantastically

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: stupid and out of touch some folks are. So we'll

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Speaker 2: have more on that with Steve Price, who will be

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 2: with us right after the News, which is next here

1579
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Speaker 2: at news Talk.

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Speaker 1: Said the only report you need to start your day

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Speaker 1: the my casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate finding the buyers.

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Speaker 1: Others can't use togsadv bit.

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Speaker 2: Of motivating us. Louis Sharp, who's a young man who

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Speaker 2: we've had on the program before it what is he now?

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Speaker 2: For fourteen fifty seventeen now I think when we first

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01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: had him on he was fourteen. Anyways, been over and

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Speaker 2: Britain racing. He's a champion of the future. But there's

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Speaker 2: this big Race of Champions which is coming up in

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Speaker 2: Sydney in early March, and this is a major where

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Speaker 2: some of the all sorts of forms of motor racing.

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Speaker 2: They will race in the same cars against each other,

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Speaker 2: but they come from different forms of motor racing. This

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Speaker 2: year Sebastian Vettles there, Vultery Botas, Sebastian Low, Mic Schumacher,

1594
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,679
Speaker 2: Travis Pastrana, Hayden Padden as we had on the program

1595
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: just before Christmas. He's representing New Zealand and also representing

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Speaker 2: New Zealand will be Louis Sharp. Their significance of Louis

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Speaker 2: Sharp is he will be the youngest driver ever to

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Speaker 2: compete at the Race of Champions. The previous youngers was

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Speaker 2: somebody called Lando Norris, twenty ten minutes away from mine.

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Speaker 15: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 15: for New Zealand business and then.

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Speaker 2: Australia A good friend Steel, that's very good morning to you,

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 2: good adad. So I watched yesterday Joe Halen and I

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: do reiterate. I found it astonishing that when we talked

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01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 2: about it Monday, she wasn't gone by about three minutes

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: after that time. And yet she survived several more days

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: until even more travel came out and she finally fell

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01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: on his sword. What's the problem with Men's Is he

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: spineless or something?

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Speaker 14: Well, he's had a good run, and it really does,

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01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 14: I must say, disappoint me because I rate him. In

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01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 14: the South Australian Premier Valanowska says, moderate labor leaders the

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Speaker 14: type that we used to have like Bob Ork for example,

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 14: and Chris Mins through COVID was sensible. He was very

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 14: sensible and has been during this rise of anti Semitism

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 14: in New South Wales. And yet there he goes trying

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01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 14: to protect someone who should have put her hand up

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 14: and said, look there's.

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Speaker 10: More to this.

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Speaker 14: I mean, what's the first thing you do to a

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Speaker 14: staff member you know has done something wrong? You say,

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Speaker 14: is this all the information? I know everything? And if

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Speaker 14: the answer to that is yes, And then it turns

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 14: out that oh, I know she'd been off with a

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Speaker 14: picnic in the Blue Mountains as well as the boozy

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Speaker 14: Hunting Valley drive. And then she's caught taking her kid

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Speaker 14: from the beach house to Sydney to play soccer school

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Speaker 14: sport on a Saturday. I mean how she thought she

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Speaker 14: was going to avoid that. But the big big question

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Speaker 14: here and the problem for the state labor government, but

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Speaker 14: also labor generally. They always talk about being the party

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,560
Speaker 14: of the worker, and yet these drivers were treated appallingly

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01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 14: by this Transport minister who claims, oh, well, it's not

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 14: easy being a mother and a politician. Well, lots of

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01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 14: people have hard jobs.

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Speaker 2: And that's where she went to. I mean she went

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01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 2: wrong from the start, this mother politician thing. She didn't

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01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: seem to have a problem at the vineyard. It only

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 2: became complicated when it involved a kid's sport. I mean,

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01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: you know you can't have it both ways, can you.

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Speaker 14: No, you can't. And no one's going to regret her

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01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 14: being out of the ministry. And I can't understand why

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01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 14: the other ministry was also at the boozy lunch has

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Speaker 14: still got.

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Speaker 2: Her job one exactly. So business they're thrilled with the

1646
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 2: government over this renewal plan.

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Speaker 14: No, I mean, I think the chickens are coming under

1648
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 14: roost to here. I mean Australia has labor as an

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 14: eighty two percent renewable target by twenty thirty. Now, when

1650
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 14: that was first announced a couple of years back, you thought, oh,

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01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 14: twenty thirty is a long way away. It's now twenty

1652
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 14: twenty five and we're trying to get to have all

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01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 14: eighty two percent of our energy delivered by wind and solar,

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01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 14: with some gas as well for peaking, and people just

1655
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 14: realize we're not going to get there. So you've got

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01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 14: people like Infrastructure in South Wales boss saying this is impossible,

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 14: We're not going to make it. And so what does

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 14: Chris Bow and the Energy Minister do. He comes and says, oh, well,

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Speaker 14: it's not surprising the coal lobby wants to sell more

1660
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 14: coal and the gas lobby wants to sell more gas.

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Speaker 14: Was not just them, it's the entire hospitality industry has

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 14: also come out and said you can't do this to us.

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 14: You're just going to shut businesses down. And so we're

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 14: headed to an election and there is a real energy

1665
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 14: debate that's going to go on. Obviously you've got the

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 14: nuclear option from the opposition, but eighty two percent by

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01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 14: twenty thirty, no one believes that's going to happen.

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: No, exactly. Well, we have the same problem here and

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01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: we're luckier than you in the sense of a lot

1670
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 2: of our stuff's renewable with rain and hydro and stuff

1671
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 2: like that. I was watching the parliament, Theustrainian Parliament yesterday

1672
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 2: and the build up to it, the lunch thing that

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01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 2: the Coalition have come up with. You know, you go

1674
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: up for your business lunch a but deductible and have

1675
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 2: a sandwich and all that sort of stuff. I get

1676
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 2: the policy because we've had it here and start, but

1677
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: is that a excuse the punt of free lunch for

1678
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: labor to go? You know, we can't afford it and

1679
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: this is just the rich end of town cashing in.

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01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 14: Well that's the argument they're trying to make, but it's

1681
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 14: a false argument. I mean, this is for small businesses.

1682
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 14: Turnover is I think, off the top of my head

1683
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 14: top amount is ten million dollars. So they're small businesses.

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01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 11: And this is the.

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 14: Opposition pointing policy straight at the middle suburban Melbourne and

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01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 14: Sydney and saying look, we're going to help out the

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01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 14: hospitality industry and they're all for this obviously, and we're

1688
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 14: also allowing small businesses to have a tax deduction. Now,

1689
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 14: there was wild figures thrown around yesterday about what this

1690
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 14: would cost the budget. I mean, I think the opposition

1691
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 14: is saying something like two hundred million a year, But

1692
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 14: the governments come out with some treasury costing saying to

1693
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 14: be one point six billion and ten billion over whatever.

1694
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 14: But it allows the government to make that argument about

1695
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 14: the beg end of the town's going to be able

1696
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 14: to go out and booze up at lunch, which is

1697
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 14: what came up in question time, and yet workers are

1698
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 14: not getting pay rises. Well it's not the beginning of town.

1699
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 14: As the opposition pointed out. If you run Quantas or

1700
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 14: you run any other multinational company, you can have a boardroom, luncheon,

1701
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 14: self catered in house and all of those figure accounting firms.

1702
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 14: I'm sure you've been doing. I haven't been to some

1703
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 14: of these events. You're on the forty fifth floor looking

1704
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 14: at Sydney Harbor eating fagra and that can be claimed

1705
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 14: as a business expense. And yet a little bloke who

1706
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 14: runs a panel shop out in western Sydney wants to

1707
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 14: take two of his tire providers out for a stake

1708
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 14: at the local pub cart. I mean, there isn't inequity there.

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01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: Exactly, Sam Kerr. We played the audio on the show yesterday.

1710
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 2: Stupid and white. I mean, she shouldn't go around kicking

1711
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: taxi windows and she shouldn't be pisted in public and

1712
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But you also shouldn't be in court,

1713
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: should she, because I mean the courts have got better things.

1714
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 14: To do, probably, But look, Australia's divided on this. I

1715
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 14: mean you're either a massive supporter of Sam Kerr and said,

1716
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 14: oh well, she got drunk as you just pointed out,

1717
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 14: and shouldn't be doing what she's doing. I mean, let's

1718
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 14: point out that she vomited in the taxi then started

1719
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 14: kicking the You know, in those London cabs they have

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Speaker 14: that perspex protection around the drive. Her and inmates started

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Speaker 14: kicking that and then they thought they'd been kidnapped, which

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Speaker 14: is ridiculous. She kicked out the back window of the

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Speaker 14: whole cab and the cab driver was taking them to

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Speaker 14: the police station because he rang the coppers and they

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Speaker 14: said come here and we'll sort it out. So he

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Speaker 14: wasn't kidnapping anybody. It's an ugly look and to throw

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Speaker 14: in the word white as she did, you are stupid

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Speaker 14: and white. It just goes to this whole argument that

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Speaker 14: we've been going through for years now about tossing around

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Speaker 14: racial terms at will. Now, if you reversed this and

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Speaker 14: it was a white, well known soccer player calling the

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Speaker 14: police officer stupid and black, what do you think you'd happen?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 2: The other thing about that, though, is they weren't exactly

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Speaker 2: forthcoming with the detail given this happened a while back,

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Speaker 2: and sort of it was kind of kept under wraps,

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Speaker 2: and it looks a bit embarrassing now, doesn't it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and it's been revealed in court today. In this

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Speaker 14: court case, by the way, it still going on, so

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Speaker 14: we should use the word allegedly and throw it in

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01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 14: there some way. It's been revealed that Samka actually went

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Speaker 14: back to the police station at a pre arranged interview

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Speaker 14: time of ten thirty the next night and sat down

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Speaker 14: quite calmly. Nothing recorded on video, but the audio was

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01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 14: recorded where she was very apologetic and said, look, I

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01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 14: shouldn't have done it. I was intoxicated. I don't remember

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Speaker 14: calling him white. I mean, your original point is probably

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01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 14: one hundred percent correct that Why the hell has this

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Speaker 14: ended up in court? Well, it's ended up in court

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Speaker 14: because of two things. They're using the word white and

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Speaker 14: the fact that she plays for Chelsea and is probably

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Speaker 14: the best known female soccer star in the world.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. You have a good weekend, mate. We'll see you

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Speaker 2: next week. Steve Price, out of Australia already fourteen two.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 14: At b.

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Speaker 2: In Politics Wednesday, I was frustrated by Bonnie Prince Billy,

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Speaker 2: the album that we played a part of. I told

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Speaker 2: you how many tracks there were, but there was no

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Speaker 2: timings on those tracks there. I couldn't tell you how

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Speaker 2: long the album was. And I've become famous all over

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Speaker 2: the world for this because I'm the only one who

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Speaker 2: does it, and it seems remarkable to think that that

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Speaker 2: is true. So I had glean listened to the whole

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Speaker 2: album just off here, and I ran to stop and

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Speaker 2: ran to stop. Watter finished and forty three minutes and

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Speaker 2: thirty five seconds. Isn't forty three minutes and thirty five seconds.

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Speaker 2: Oldest woman in the World's died overnight, which is interesting

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Speaker 2: because she's not the official oldest woman in the world.

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Speaker 2: I'll come to that in the moment. Her name is

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Speaker 2: Lynn was Lynn Shemu. She passed away peacefully and asleep

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Speaker 2: jen one. So the news has only just come out

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Speaker 2: of China. She was born June eighteen, nineteen oh two.

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Speaker 2: She would have been one hundred and twenty two years

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Speaker 2: old one hundred and ninety seven days. Theodore Roosevelt was

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01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 2: a president when she was alive, she would have been ten.

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Speaker 2: With the Titanic sunk. She was a mother of seven,

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Speaker 2: and apart from losing her eyesight due to old age,

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Speaker 2: she entered it both legs and to fall. Apart from that,

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01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: she suffered no other illness her entire life. Was able

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Speaker 2: to take care of herself her whole life, sharp sense

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Speaker 2: of hearing, good appetite. She would have outlived Jean Kelmut,

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Speaker 2: who was recognized as the oldest person in the world

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01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: by thirty three days. She would often tell her children

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Speaker 2: there is no obstacle in life that cannot be overcome.

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Speaker 2: Words to live by secret to her longevity, because that

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Speaker 2: this is the part, This is the part, Sarah, when

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Speaker 2: I get to when I get to that age, and

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Speaker 2: they go and Mike, and I'm on one News and

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Speaker 2: they go on Mike, and you go turmeric coffee. I'll

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Speaker 2: go pess off. Stop asking me that question, always grumpy.

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Speaker 2: Exactly the secret to her say bourbon, Say bourbon. Well

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01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: you're not far wrong being able to eat, sleep, and drink. Yeah, baby,

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Speaker 2: there you go. So the Gerontology Research Group oldest person

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Speaker 2: alive today is considered to be a Brazilian nun called Lucas. No,

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 2: it's Ena Lucas at one hundred and sixteen. Then there's

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Speaker 2: the Gan. Anyway, if her records are right and they've

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Speaker 2: got a card, she would have been the oldest woman

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Speaker 2: at one hundred and twenty two years old. It's a

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Speaker 2: good on here. Nine minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Dead be Mike. I believe there were a number of

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: red flags regarding TJ over the year or so before,

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Speaker 2: as he increasingly became outspoken on the issues he was

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01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: polarized about. Not surprised it happened, and I believe the

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01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: impact on the all Blacks will be much greater than

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01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,839
Speaker 2: many appreciate. Meantime, TJ skips the country and makes millions

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Speaker 2: for himself, leaving it all behind. That was the Maybo TJ.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't care couldn't care less. He's gone, he's done. But

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Speaker 2: yet again, you know, there are certain organizations that just

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Speaker 2: don't seem to be able to operate in the modern

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Speaker 2: world in a way that we find acceptable. And it's

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Speaker 2: made worse, of course by the fact that it's the

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Speaker 2: national sport. They're sort of the Wellington City Council of sport,

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Speaker 2: aren't they. At the end of the day, they're just

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Speaker 2: it's inept, they're bumbling. It doesn't seem to work very well.

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Speaker 2: They never available to defend themselves or explain themselves, and

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Speaker 2: they somehow live in this castle where they think they're

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty three and we're all enamored with

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01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 2: them and rugby's all that counts, and it's the only

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Speaker 2: sport in town and they're untouchable, and it's just bollocks.

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Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now quits warehouse, the real house of fragrances.

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Speaker 2: Superhero movie time. So Ever since Pedro Pascal was hinted

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01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: to be the lead, fans and I include myself here,

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01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 2: have been waiting to see what the new Fantastic Four

1828
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Speaker 2: movie would look like. So the comics are considered to

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Speaker 2: be right at the top of stan Lee's work, and

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Speaker 2: yet it's never been adapted very well into a movie.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think, Sam writes this crack.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you're always You're always happing

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Speaker 1: on about.

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Speaker 8: This to me.

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Speaker 2: Don't I beg on about Stanley and the fantastic Just

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01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 2: you wave the comics in front of me. He look

1837
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 2: at this. This is a masterpiece anyway, fantastic four first

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01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: steps are minus five.

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Speaker 1: Before we went up the first time, you couldn't turn invisible.

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01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: Ben wasn't a rock, the best pilot in the world

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01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: right here, Yeah, that's looking him in and Johnny never

1842
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: caught fire. Ben has always been a rock.

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01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 16: Johnny is Johnny.

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01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: I am right here. The life throws at us.

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01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 11: Listened together.

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 2: As a family, apart from the fact that made literally

1847
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 2: no sense. Pedro Pascal is mister Fantastic. Vanessa Kirby is

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Sue Storm? Was that Vanessa speaking yes, your beautiful voice?

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Speaker 2: Joseph Quinn who was gladiated too, of course, as Johnny

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Speaker 2: Storm and Bingram of the Bear Fame, he is the thing,

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01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 2: the thing. It's expected this movie will set up the

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01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 2: new villain for phase five of Marvel. You want to

1853
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: go across the road for coffee and talk some more

1854
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: about that, Lint.

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Speaker 1: Yes, gather up your comic your little comic.

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Speaker 2: Books, and it's about July twenty five. Important programming note,

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Speaker 2: we will be here Friday, No excuses, Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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