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Speaker 1: Life seems good for Joel Shadbolt at the moment of lab.

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Speaker 1: Of course, when he was here three years ago, he

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Speaker 1: old notice apparently to go full time on stage. In

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Speaker 1: the ensuing period there have been awards and new albums,

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Speaker 1: a new summer schedule that will see them play here

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Speaker 1: and indeed on the Gold Coast, and Joel Shadbolt is

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Speaker 1: back with us. A very good morning to you. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, indeed, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: We had Ed Sheeran on the program last week. One

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Speaker 1: of the things he's done, the only reason I raised

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Speaker 1: this is one of the things he's done is he's

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Speaker 1: given a lot of money, apparently to his old school

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Speaker 1: for music programs and you know, music teaching and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. Do you what's been your experience in teaching

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Speaker 1: music as opposed to a kid just being a gifted

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Speaker 1: does that work? Does teaching work and lead somewhere?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I actually I've kind of delved back

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Speaker 2: into a bit of teaching this year, which has been nice,

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Speaker 2: and I gave a guitar to to my old high school.

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Speaker 2: A couple of years back, we were lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: get gifted some guitars in Australia. I thought, well, I

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Speaker 2: don't need this guitar, I'll give it to my high school.

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Speaker 2: So I did that. But yeah, I look, teaching is

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Speaker 2: one of those things that I think I'll always do

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Speaker 2: that's how I learned how to play. I had people,

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Speaker 1: And do you do it privately in terms of you know,

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Speaker 1: like music lessons or do you do it through a school? Well,

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Speaker 1: have you done it through school?

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Speaker 2: No? I just just yet, just through high schools a

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Speaker 1: And do you do what just guitars or music generally?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guitars and they're like guitar suition and then kind

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Speaker 2: The other thing I have was the Music Commission, which

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Speaker 2: is which that takes me around the whole country, which

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Speaker 2: is super fun, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: How much of people like what you do is driven

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Speaker 1: by that subconscious idea that you're helping somebody to go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it's more that, like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: but it's it's it's not what I yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I want to make music that I want to make

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Speaker 2: and I don't want to just play music for the

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Speaker 2: casino kind of thing, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I mentioned so the tours

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Speaker 2: few times now. He's he's been a great addition to

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Speaker 2: plenty like most of the bands, which is quite special.

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Speaker 1: Does there have to be I mean, the advantage, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. You know, I was still going to

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Speaker 1: You went to the States. How did that go? And

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Speaker 1: And m So how do you who who's the brains

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a combination of the band and then our

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. I read something interesting about you the other day, Joel.

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Speaker 1: As a touring vocalist performing shows back to back, you

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Speaker 1: become hyper aware of how your body feels. Sleep, hydration, nutrition,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things that I've had to

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Speaker 2: a lot of that stuff. Then I guess it's no

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Speaker 2: so your body just it's not that you can't do it,

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Speaker 1: So have you always known that or is that something

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Speaker 2: You know, you just know what your your voice feels like,

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Speaker 2: And I guess you don't know until you get really

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Speaker 2: I mean, my first time catch a fire with Led

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Speaker 2: It's just absolutely ridiculous. The amount of load on the

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Speaker 2: you never feel settled on the road or grounded. You constantly,

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Speaker 2: So it's just learning ways to kind of keep yourself

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Speaker 1: Is that do you know common among museos these days?

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Speaker 1: Because it's funnily enough watching a video the other day

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Speaker 2: It for sure? Yeah? I mean, well, Joe Walsh as well. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your body just turns and ship. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me you run up Mount Monganui, do you.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say, rhyme, I say trot up there?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't doesn't because my wife's trained or a woman she's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I did know Loreta. Yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: So you can't help with the inspired.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Good the Harley, you still got it?

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Speaker 2: No, I sold the Harley? Yeah, yeah, I know I know,

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Speaker 2: don't worry. I'm saving up for a sawning. Now. I

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Speaker 2: sold to Harley and I wanted to. I gave some

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Speaker 1: Once you've had one, you always want one. But what

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Speaker 1: a wonderful thing to do to night. And you've had

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Speaker 1: all the music awards of late as well. So so overall, Joel,

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Speaker 1: things seem to be going well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, things are going all good man. It's life's a ride,

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Speaker 2: you don't I'm really enjoying the music. Of course, it

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Speaker 2: doesn't answer BacT to me. I can. I can go

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Good to catch up with you,

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Speaker 1: mat go well and good luck with the Gold Coast

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Speaker 1: and stand and.

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Speaker 2: All of that.

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Speaker 1: Joel Shadbolt of Lab Now there's an inside, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Sold the Harley and gave some money to Mike King.

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Speaker 1: That's a nice person. As for Lauretta up the hill,

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