1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Opinion, Edit, Informed, und apologetic, the my Asking Breakfast with 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: a Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News togs had been. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Moody and well. Kevin, let's talk money and recovery. The 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank governor has an interesting work on social impact bonds. 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Also the number of businesses that don't have websites. Bick 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Wronger is back. Can you believe it's been fifteen years 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: since her last original album? Joe mccannon's Rome ended. Does 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Budget Day in the UK? Pasky right, Oh, seven past six, 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the day. A couple of things out of 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Christian's announcement yesterday before he rocks up later this morning. One, 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: the vote was five to one. Who's the one? And 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: how is it possible they think that doing nothing was 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: an answer? And how obsessed have the committee been over 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 2: the past year on this idea that their cuts are 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: yet to flow through to the economy. And if we 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: just hold and hold and hold, the good times are coming? 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: Talk about a misreute. Two? Given that, don't you want 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: to know who these people are and what they think 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: and why they think it, and therefore we can gain 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: greater insight as to whether we should have any confidence 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: in them at all. Three. Given the call and the 22 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: fact it's probably the last cut, can we not all 23 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: conclude that the mid year pause where they did nothing 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: believing they had done enough, might be just one of 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: the bigger cockups of modern economics. 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: Four? 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: What about the commentary? Greater caution on the part of 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: households and businesses could slow the pace of recovery. Alternatively, 29 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: their recovery could be faster and stronger than expected. Awesome, So, experts, 30 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: without a clue, anything could happen. Your guess is as 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: good as mine. Five. The retail banks to the cooperative 32 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: were in like a robber's dog. The floating now is 33 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: below five. See you reckon, I reckon. You get something 34 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: with a four mid four long term? I'd go for it. 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: I mean, take my advice or leave that. I don't care, 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: but force something for five years that looks pretty good 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: to me. I just think this is it. I think 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: a whole lot of people were looking for an end. 39 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: This is as close to an end as a bunch 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: of non committals will give you. It's summer, it's Christmas, 41 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: We're over it. The recovery is there or thereabouts for 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: enough people to materially get on with life six. There 43 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: was some commentary that was a bit hawkish. Ah, you 44 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: know what it would mean more to me if I 45 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: honestly thought these people were on top of their game. 46 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: You give weight to expertise, So I'm not sure we're 47 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: dealing with ments some members here at all? Could we 48 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: should we have done it differently? Of course we should have. 49 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: But two point twenty five short of the world going 50 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: pop and actually don't rule that out, but short of 51 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: a calamitous private equity AI bubble bursting meltdown, we can 52 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: turn the page. Bring on twenty six things, as dream 53 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: said in nineteen ninety three, can only get better. 54 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds. 55 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Budget die in Britain and the Chancellor did not disappoint. 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: She text everything that moves. 57 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: Those are my choices, not austerity, not reckless borrowing, but 58 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: cutting the debts, cutting waiting less and cutting the cost 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 4: of living. Those are labor choices promised and delivered by 60 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: this budget. 61 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Tories were scathing. 62 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 5: She should be on the side of a young person 63 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 5: looking for their first job, the saver doing the right 64 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: thing and putting money away for a rainy day, the 65 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: pensioner trying to enjoy a decent retirement. This country work 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 5: when you make the country work for them. 67 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 6: Farage was scathing, Who is going to pay all these 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 6: increased taxes? Basically, working people are going to be subsidizing 69 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 6: a welfare bill that shows no sign of going down. 70 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 7: What so ever. 71 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: The Chief Secretary to the Treasury trying to defend the texathon. 72 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 8: What we decided not to do was to go down 73 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 8: the route of further cuts to public investment. And we 74 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 8: decided not to go down the route of uncontrolled borrowing 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 8: because we're determined to get the cost of borrowing down. 76 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 8: We chose to take fair and necessary decisions when it 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 8: comes to taxation. 78 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: The small twist the OBR the Office a Budget Responsibility 79 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: coughed it up and published it all. And how really we. 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 9: Launched an investigation into that, the report of the Treasure 81 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 9: Quity of Parliament. 82 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 10: I'm into the Chancellor. 83 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 7: We apologize for the era. 84 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 9: I will take action via sure it doesn't happen again. 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, later on all of that. It really was quite 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: the document. In Hong Kong, we've got a high rise 87 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: fire thirteen at least the powerbate gate has got seven 88 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: hundred on the job. 89 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: The temperature inside the buildings concerned are very high, so 90 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: it's quite difficult for us to enter the building and 91 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: go upstairs to conduct with firefighting and rescue operation. 92 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: Then state side where the co phone called Leak shows 93 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: him coaching the Russians on what to say to the president. 94 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: Were the President's batting all that away? 95 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: That's what a deal make your days. 96 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 11: You got to say, look, they want this, You've got 97 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 11: to convince. 98 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Him with this. You know, that's a very standard form 99 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: of negotiation. 100 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 7: I haven't heard it, but I heard it was standard. 101 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Negotiation, standar negotiation Georgia. By the way, I'll updated you 102 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: shortly that Georgia case against Trump that's now gone as well. 103 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: Just developing this morning news of the world in ninety inflation. 104 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: You want to find a place with inflation Australia, hold 105 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: my ba more shortly eleven past six. 106 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, how 107 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: It News Talk Zippy. 108 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: Uber New Zealand got some news today, some weird research 109 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: around that. 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I'm sure 114 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: in Partnersandrew Kella, ha, good morning, very. 115 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 7: Good morning, Mike. 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 2: Your view of two two five? 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 12: What is it? 118 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 5: Ah? 119 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 7: Well, there you got big day yesterday. 120 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 13: So we've said hira rata Governor Christian Hawksby and oh, yeah, 121 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 13: you've got a couple more days, hasn't He's got to 122 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 13: the thirtieth. 123 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 7: But maybe we've also said see you later to. 124 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 13: Official cash rate reductions and we're very much in weight 125 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 13: and see mode now. 126 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. 127 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 13: For the record, the Arby en Zi dropped the oceada 128 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 13: two point twenty five per cent, which makes us pretty 129 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 13: low now compared to other jurisdictions. The move was almost 130 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 13: universally expected, so no surprises there. 131 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 7: Focus was very much on the outlook. Now. 132 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 13: I don't think the outlook that they gave was altogether surprising, 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 13: but the market reaction we've. 134 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 7: Seen suggests there was at least a section of the. 135 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 13: Financial market that was expecting a more explicit reference to fewings, 136 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 13: which there wasn't. So the Kiwi dollar did something quite 137 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 13: unusual yes day. It went up very much a weight 138 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 13: and sea attitude to further cuts. Basically, rbn Z is done. 139 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 7: I think they're done, pending. 140 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 13: Clear evidence of you know, domestic economic weakness or maybe, 141 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 13: as you I think just pointed out, significant external events. 142 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 13: A key point Mike, it's they've got three months now 143 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 13: until the next RBNZ meeting, so they're sort of in 144 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 13: holiday mode as far as the ocr is concerned. They 145 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 13: do get plenty of data, but you've also got a 146 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 13: new boss coming in, so I think it makes sense 147 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 13: to give that new boss some optionality. What do they 148 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 13: think they get a clear whiteboard. It also seems like 149 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 13: a reasonable position to take, or certainly an understandable one. 150 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 13: Another cut to me looks like a big call from here. 151 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 13: I agree with the sentiment out there. There's a pretty 152 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 13: big hurdle for another cut. Note that there was a 153 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 13: dissenting voter their mic. It was five to one. Yep, 154 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 13: assuming that one didn't want to cut. I mean, after all, 155 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 13: they are rolling the dice on that spare capacity and 156 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 13: economy leading to inflation backing off from what it currently 157 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 13: is right at the edge of their band. Another comment, 158 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 13: Mic is just because the RB and Z is done 159 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 13: or sort of calling its jets on oce D cuts 160 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 13: doesn't mean the impact of cuts to date doesn't keep 161 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 13: feeding through into the economy. I know you have a 162 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 13: view on this as well, but the transmission of monetary 163 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 13: policy does continue. This quite a bit of the total 164 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 13: mortgage pool to reprice because for a while some people haven't. 165 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 13: There is a group of people out there that haven't 166 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 13: refixed their mortgage rates as they've come on. They've gone 167 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 13: on to a floating rates because they're sort of gaming 168 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 13: and waiting for lower fixed rates. That's probably probably not 169 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 13: going to see much lower fixed rates now. So look, 170 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 13: i'd say out there, fixing now is probably not a 171 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 13: bad idea. Their forecast growth picks up to zero point 172 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 13: four in Q three, higher again zero point seven and 173 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 13: Q four. They said that zero point minus zero point 174 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 13: nine and Q three probably overstated the weakness CPI inflation 175 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 13: does drop back next year, but I did notice the 176 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 13: unemployment rate that only drops very slowly next week. Dear, so, 177 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 13: sort of weaker employment markets than their view are probably 178 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 13: with us for a while. The final point, I'd say, 179 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 13: Mike is one of the great things in my day 180 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 13: to day life is I get meet a lot of people. 181 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 7: I was in why can I Yesterday? 182 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 13: I was at the O Tai Honga boating Club talking 183 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 13: to clients of a big accounting film on the cabin 184 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 13: he goes to live in the dream. But I get 185 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 13: to hear what a lot of people are saying. And 186 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 13: I've been doing this for about six weeks now, and 187 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 13: one common theme I've heard right across the country real 188 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 13: estate agents are busy, Mike. So the housing market looks 189 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 13: like it will pick up next year. Market reaction, Yeah, 190 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 13: Kiwi dollar got to rocket up a quite a lot stronger, 191 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 13: but local wholesale interest rates also quite a bit higher 192 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 13: and that has an impact on those fixed rate mortgage 193 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 13: settings as well. 194 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: Right across the townsman, can I suggest when you jurymander 195 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: the power market and start tossing in money from the 196 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: government to pay your power bill, you might pay the 197 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: price for that. And that's what happened yesterday. 198 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 13: I had to look at this number several times because 199 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 13: I didn't think it was right, But electricity in the 200 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 13: last twelve months and the Aussie CPI is up thirty 201 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 13: seven point one percent, So yeah, Aussie CPI, certainly this 202 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 13: didn't help our bond rates Yesterday might because the Aussie 203 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 13: CPI printed much higher than expected. So they've moved to 204 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 13: a monthly CPI release. It will take a while to 205 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 13: get used to. You could see a few wobbles around 206 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 13: things like seasonal adjustments as they get used to that. 207 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 13: But it's definitely a surprise to the upside. When I 208 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 13: was looking at this last night, one headline jumped out 209 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 13: and me and said, nightmare. 210 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 7: For the RBA. 211 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 13: The RBA's preferred measure rose three point three percent year 212 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 13: on year in October. It's been over three percent for 213 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 13: months now. But the headline inflation rate three point eight percent. 214 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 13: That's mattic, isn't it. They started these months I was 215 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 13: back in Apri. It's the highest points it's been since then. 216 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 13: It did it. It sort of shunted Australian interest rates higher, 217 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 13: and there's a lot of talk now that the next 218 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 13: move from the RBA could. 219 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: Be up interesting. What are the numbers? 220 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 13: Yeah, so US market's looking pretty good. The Dow Jones 221 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 13: is up three seventy six points forty seven thousand, four 222 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 13: hundred and eighty eight. That's up point eight percent. The 223 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 13: S and P five hundred is up point nine one percent, 224 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 13: sixty one percent six eighty seven. They're all getting balled 225 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 13: up now about a cut in the FED funds rate. 226 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 13: In December, the Nasdaq is up point eight four percent 227 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 13: one hundred ninety three points twenty three thousand, two hundred 228 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 13: and twenty the US market. The UI market actually went 229 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 13: up up point nine percent eighty six points nine six 230 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 13: ninety six. The Nike a strong day, up one point 231 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 13: eight five percent forty nine thousand, five hundred and fifty nine. 232 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 13: Shanghai Composite fell six points three eight sixty four. The 233 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 13: Aussi's yesterday game point eight one percent. That's sixty nine 234 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 13: points eighty six o six. We haven't had time to 235 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 13: talk about the New Zealand market, but a couple of 236 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 13: good numbers there yesterday from Fisher and Pocal Healthcare also 237 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 13: channel infrastructure up that helped our market to a eighty 238 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 13: one point gain point six one thirteen thousand, five hundred 239 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 13: and six two keem we dollar here we go, point 240 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 13: five sixty nine to two against the US, point eight 241 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 13: seven three seven against the OSSI, point four nine on 242 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 13: nine euro Zo, point four three against the pound, eighty 243 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 13: nine against the Japanese Yen gold rallied yesterday four one 244 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 13: sixty seven and Brent Crew sixty two dollars and forty 245 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 13: seven cents. 246 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: Catch up tomorrow. Mate Andrew Keller has share and partners 247 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: Pasky Yes the aforemention of Fisher and Parker Healthcare well done, 248 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: largest exporter and revenue up fourteen percent, the thirty nine 249 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: percent increase in first heart net profit, the revenue over 250 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: a billion dollars, hospital profit at six ninety two million, 251 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: the home care at three fifty nine million, operating margin 252 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: twenty six per that. It's aubit and they're happy at 253 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: Apple today because for the first time in fourteen years globally, 254 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: this is they going to ship more iPhones than Samsung 255 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: are going to They're going to ship two hundred and 256 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 2: forty three million iPhones this year compared to Samsung's two 257 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five million. Six to twenty one. Eric 258 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: News Talks NB. 259 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 14: And he were so sexy. 260 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: The Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 261 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: by The News Talks B. 262 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: I will work you through the UK budget later enders 263 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: with us this morning. But basically she's taxed everything, houses 264 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: National insurance income thresholds have been frozen. The money you 265 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: put aside for retirement, that's capp so anymore as suddenly 266 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: the two child benefit cap has been scrapped, so you 267 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: can have as many kids as you want on welfare. 268 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 2: A mansion tax of its two million year tax, one lot, 269 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: five million tax holiday. Just it's unbelievable anyway more. Later 270 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: George is gone, as in the case as in Trump 271 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: ringing up, Remember the phone call, I need some more votes, 272 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: I need some more votes. That case, it's gone. They've 273 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: got a new prosecutor. Given the complexity of the legal 274 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: issues at hand, ranging from constitutional questions and the supremacy 275 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: clause to immunity, jurisdiction, venue, speedy trial concerns, access to 276 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: federal records, and even assuming each of these issues was 277 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: resolved in the States favor, bringing this case before a 278 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: jury in twenty nine to thirty or even thirty one 279 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: would be nothing short of a remarkable feat. So based 280 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: on that, he's done six twenty. 281 00:12:54,520 --> 00:13:00,239 Speaker 1: Five Trending now with Keema Twells Black Friday Sale. 282 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: Now nixt installments and Tyler Sheridan's Yellowstone. Is he a Yellowstone? 283 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: Produced two spinoffs? We got eighteen eighty three and nineteen 284 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: twenty three. But wait, there's more. We've got nineteen forty 285 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: four coming. But wait, there's more. There's also Michelle feiffelid 286 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: series called The Madsine and another one called The Dutton Ranch. 287 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: But wait, there's more. There's also Casey Dutton spin off, 288 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: which we have a trailer for. It's called Why Marshals. 289 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: It's about him joining an elite team of US Marshalls 290 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: to deliver ranch justice. 291 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 10: For it every day, to get out from another way 292 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 10: to the Yellowstone, Come of lost, My teammates, my parents, 293 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 10: give me my brothers. 294 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 5: You know. 295 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: It's sometimes good and then I have to do bad things. 296 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to find a new beginning. Crazy be 297 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: my Marshalls. Sully Fine, they look like God's country team. 298 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: But the devil's running free out there, man. The Devil's 299 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: running free out there. 300 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 10: Man. 301 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: They're all born with a killer instinct. Look you're not 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: a killer. 303 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 3: Casey Beer protector. 304 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: Luke Grimes is back as Casey Dutton. Paramount's got Sheridan signed, 305 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: of course, with NBC Universal for a billion to produce 306 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: his shows from twenty twenty nine. Meantime, this lot's out 307 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: on UB a CBS in the States and Paramount Plus, 308 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: which means nothing to us because it all ends up 309 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: here on Neon land Man. We started watching season two 310 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: land Man. I thought he ended weirdly in season one, 311 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: so weird that I thought, do I really need Season 312 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: two in my life? Season two's gone strange. It's very good, 313 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: but it's they've gone down the comedic route to the 314 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: point where it wasn't really a comedy. It was a 315 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: drama with some funny lines, and now they've overworked the 316 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: comedy and some of it's quite good. Some of it isn't. 317 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: But I'm sort of fall in love with it now, 318 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: so I'm hooked in forever as far as they can 319 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: work out fis. Season three, You see Me, that's good too. 320 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: I was good as see one. Season two was a 321 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: weak point, but season three's okay. So there's a couple 322 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: of hostco recommendations for him building up to the weekend, 323 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: along with the f one, of course, Christian hawksby Reserve 324 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: Bank Governor. 325 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: After seven thirty, You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion, 326 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: and Mike the Mic asking Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced 327 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the impossible news Togs dead been to report. 328 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: The death toll in the Hong Kong fire is up 329 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: to thirty six. Will keep you posted obviously. Meantime in Italy, 330 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: if you followed the Australian News, there has been a 331 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: big deal there because one of the parents is Australia. Anyway, 332 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: families living off the grid, they all eat poisons, mushrooms, 333 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: end up in hospital and the Italian authority is now 334 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: taken the kids off them. So that's turned into a 335 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: major Joe mckhead on that. Shortly back here a new 336 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: report into the performance of social impact bonds. Now what 337 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: happens is the private investors they back social services. The 338 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: government only pays when the agreed outcomes a met This 339 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: reports by the Maximum Maximum Institute. Your researcher as Thomas 340 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: Scrimmager who is with us, Thomas morning Wing, Mike, is 341 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: it a bit cheery picky for the investor? In other words, 342 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: this is easy to do if you go in thinking 343 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: there's an easy outcome and some of the crunchy stuff 344 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: never gets covered or does it work for everyone pretty much? 345 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 11: Well, it's certainly something that the government, as the instigator 346 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 11: of the contract, has to be careful about and that 347 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 11: they have to define the problem correctly. But essentially that's 348 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 11: the same problem that all social services have, is that 349 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 11: some people have relatively simple challenges. They've challenges that in 350 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 11: government helped for, but it's reasonably straightforward, and some people 351 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 11: have really complex lives. I think the beauty of social 352 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 11: impact bonds as an approach is it allows highly flexible 353 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 11: and customizable interventions and to actually you can target the 354 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 11: people who are most vulnerable and not simply the easy options. 355 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: The Genesis Youth trial or trust trial that you cite 356 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: that reduced youth offending. My thirty percent generated nine dollars 357 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: of value for every dollar invested. Is that the gold 358 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: medal or can that be standard? 359 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 7: Oh? 360 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 11: Absolutely, I think that could be stand and every bond 361 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 11: would be unique. But that was New Zealand's first trial 362 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 11: instigated back in twenty sixteen under bil English, and in 363 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 11: the review it was both a roaring success, but there 364 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 11: were heaps of learnings. You know, you think about it 365 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 11: the same way to any sort of product or service. 366 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 11: The first time you do it, you're doing it the 367 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 11: hard way because there's all sorts of things you have 368 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 11: to figure out. There are negotiations, what are we doing here, 369 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 11: but they achieved a great success of the Genesis Youth 370 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 11: trial and it was the first time. If you keep 371 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 11: doing it, you learn, you get more efficient, you get 372 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 11: better outcomes. 373 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, how many of these programs are out there? I mean, 374 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 2: how far short of maxing this out are we? 375 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 15: Oh so in New. 376 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 11: Zealand where we're sort of the government is currently talking 377 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 11: about doing a few more. The previous National government set 378 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 11: up this trial with Genesis use and tried to set 379 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 11: up another one. But we're not currently doing any others 380 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 11: of these, But globally there is quite a few of 381 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 11: the UK. Well, it's a new thing since twenty ten. 382 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 11: The UK first trialed them and then New Zealand started 383 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 11: making some noise towards the later end of the last 384 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 11: National government, but then it just was the work wasn't pursued. 385 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 11: And so the current government have a voice some interest 386 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 11: in these, and so we're saying we should go further, 387 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 11: that this is really interesting. 388 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: So so how is it that something that's fifteen years 389 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: old and the original trial worked and worked really well 390 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: and this is a government that's looking to improve the 391 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: social outcome of New Zealander. Is that somebody somewhere hasn't 392 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: gone to tell you what, let's give this another crack. 393 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 11: Well, I think they are doing some work in this space. 394 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 11: I mean obviously wanting to do a lot with social investment, 395 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 11: which is the analytical framework that sits above it. So 396 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 11: I can't really speak to why they're not pushing faster 397 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 11: with it now. They haven't you know, they've only been 398 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 11: in for a few years. These are the processes. Is 399 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 11: going to take a bit of time, but we really 400 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 11: would like to see them pushing with us further because 401 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 11: you think they're a real opportunity. 402 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you also recommend a cross party political approach. Is 403 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: that a bit dreamy really because this is ideological as 404 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: an I caount see the Labor Party. You are loving this. 405 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 11: Well, you know, I think there's a room for everyone 406 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 11: to get on board with this because really it's simply 407 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 11: a way of partnering with social services and there's all 408 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 11: support with that in New Zealand that government has a role. 409 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 11: Community organizations are really valuable and so I think it's 410 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 11: simply one way that government can partner with community organizations 411 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 11: to deliver better services. So we're really hopeful that actually 412 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 11: broad support as possible. 413 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 2: All Right, Thomas go well, appreciate it. Thomas Scrimsher, who's 414 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: the Maximum Institute researcher. Interesting class actions are not really 415 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: a New Zealand thing, very much an American thing. But 416 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: this business of the pylon that fell over in Northland, 417 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: and it seems no question that it was Transpower's fault 418 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: and they did some compensation. They said a bit of 419 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: a sorry and stuff, but obviously the region is just 420 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: ropable still so next stop court. 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One 439 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: word Golfwarehouse dot m z mosking on some job news HP. 440 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: You think AI is going to affect jobs? 441 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 12: HP? 442 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: Overnight Hughlett Packard they're restructuring. They're eliminating ten percent of 443 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: the global workforce just like that, thanks to AI and efficiency. 444 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: They're going to save a billion in annual savings by 445 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 2: the end of twenty eight. So ten percent of the 446 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 2: workforce is gone. Thank you very much for coming. How 447 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: many is that? Six thousand jobs? 448 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 12: Just like that? 449 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: Meantime, MIT Massachusetts Institute of Technology, they've done a study 450 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: out this morning on they're telling us that artificial intelligence 451 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: already right here, right now this morning, replace eleven point 452 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: seven percent of the US labor market just like that, 453 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: mainly in finance, healthcare, and professional services. It's a simulation 454 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: program that says here's what AI can do. How many 455 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: jobs can do that? Can we match them up? Beau? 456 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: You can eleven point seven percent of people of suddenly 457 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: unemployed six. 458 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: Forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace 459 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: of Mind for New Zealand Business. 460 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, McKenna, how are. 461 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 16: You great, Mike? 462 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 15: How are you well? 463 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: Indeed you got the Christmas lights up? 464 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 14: Yeah, there's time to pop up, get a hunting into 465 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 14: the mood. 466 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: I love it now. This is a lot of interests 467 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: are saying before, a lot of interest in Australia over this. 468 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: I can't remembers that the mother or the father is Australian, 469 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: one's British, one's Australia. 470 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 14: Yes, we have an Australian mother, Catherine Birmingham from Melbourne. 471 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 14: And the husband that we're talking about is Nathan Trevillion. 472 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 14: He's from Bristol. 473 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 474 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: So they're out in the woods doing their off grid thing. 475 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: But really, you don't want to read a lot of 476 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: these weird mushrooms because you leaned up in the hospital. 477 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: Next thing, the Italian authorities are knocking on your door. 478 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, something like that. 479 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 14: They bought this property, just a little farmhouse in Abruzzo, 480 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 14: east of Rome in twenty twenty one. They came to 481 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 14: the attention of the authorities a year ago in September 482 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 14: when they were foraging for mushrooms. They all fell ill 483 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 14: and went to hospital and the Carabinieri police have been 484 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 14: monitoring them social services and last week a local court, 485 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 14: a children's court, removed the children from the parents and 486 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 14: they are being held in a shelter in a different 487 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 14: part of Abruzzo until the appeal goes through the courts, 488 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 14: probably in the next couple of weeks. 489 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: How angsty do people get about these sort of things, 490 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: rights of the parents', rights of the state, all that 491 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: sort of thing. 492 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 14: Well, it's incredible, Mike, what this has been like in Italy. 493 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 14: The whole country seems to be obsessed with this case. 494 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: Right now. 495 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 14: One hundred and fifty thousand people have signed a petition 496 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 14: online support for the family, including the far right leader 497 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 14: Matteo Salvini from the League. The Deputy Prime Minister, he 498 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 14: compared the case to a kidnapping. The Prime Minister Georgia 499 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 14: Maloney expressed alarm about the case. Today, the Justice Minister 500 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 14: Carlo Nordeo threatened disciplinary measures against the judges if they're 501 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 14: found to have acted incorrectly and this is part of 502 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 14: a bigger fight between the government and the judiciary obviously. 503 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, speaking of governments who've been voting down south, 504 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: now the opposition have done well. Would the opposition have 505 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: been expected to do well in the southern part or not? 506 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 15: Yeah, that's the thing. 507 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 14: I'm taking it fairly cautiously. A lot of people are 508 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 14: saying this is bad news for Maloney. But in these 509 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 14: regions Campagna and Pullia, the center left parties were expected 510 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 14: to win. They did win. But when you look at 511 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 14: the map overall, it's so three all draw now and 512 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 14: I think it is pause for thought for the Prime 513 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 14: Minister if she does want to look at a reelection, 514 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 14: just what that means for her. 515 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: Nationally when she d for an election nationally. 516 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 14: So she's three years in, we've got another two years. 517 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a five year term. Got agentes things brilliantly 518 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: or disastrously. Who would know this? Now? I do need 519 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: your expertise here because I'm reading about this femocide thing. 520 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: Is this win and I mean the vote was unanimous, 521 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: but is this symbolic? Is this window dressing or does 522 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: something tangible happen? 523 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 16: Yeah? 524 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 15: Good question. 525 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 14: How do you prove that the murder of someone is 526 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 14: related to their sexual identity, their gender. I'm not sure 527 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 14: about that. It looks very much like a symbolic gesture. 528 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 14: It's unusual to see all the MPs uniting and voting unanimously. 529 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 14: Was approved on the day that internationally is dedicated to 530 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 14: stop violence against women. So they're doing all the right things, 531 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 14: but what does that really mean on the ground. 532 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 10: I think the. 533 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 14: Experts are saying, we need more education, we need to 534 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 14: change the way young boys are thinking. 535 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: Of course, so who would rule I mean, so someone 536 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: gets murdered, who would rule this has been a femosite 537 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: as opposed to a. 538 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 14: Well, it would be up to the courts, obviously to 539 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 14: say that this has been a femicide, this murder. 540 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: Would you be charged with gmicide do you know? Or 541 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: just murder? 542 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 17: Yeah? 543 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 14: Unclear, but it says it's a law on femoside. 544 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: So interesting. 545 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 14: It's not quite clear. 546 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems odd, all right, Joe, nice to catch 547 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: up with you, Thanks mate, Joe McKenna. In Italy, of course, 548 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: the reason because Maloney drove it, so it came from 549 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: the top, and the point being from now on Italy 550 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: will record every murder of a woman that is motivated 551 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: by her gender as femicide. But you've got to cross 552 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: the line somewhere judicially or legally on the motivation, which 553 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: makes it, I suggest, probably more symbolic. It's been away 554 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: from seven. 555 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: The Myke Costing Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news Dogs, there'd. 556 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: Be Black Friday news from the stag At and T survey. 557 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: Gen z are your biggest Black Friday shop is older 558 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: generation shop closer to Christmas. More people get gift ideas 559 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: from shopping in person and social media, So I'm encouraged 560 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: by that. That's part of their ongoing sort of the 561 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: K shape. I think we've got a K shaped economy 562 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: as well. In other words, if you gainful employed and 563 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: you're doing okay, you've got plenty of money, you're living 564 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: your life. If you're at the other end, you're on 565 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: the other shape of the K or the other stick 566 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: of the cave. Forty percent of gen Z thirty two 567 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: percent of millennials plan to do most of their shopping 568 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: Black Friday. Gen Z planned to spend twenty three percent 569 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: less because everyone's angsty. Big decline, biggest decline of any generation, 570 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: seventy percent or seventy seven percent of consumers report that 571 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: they will do all their holiday shopping at small businesses 572 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: if they could. I don't believe any of that personally. 573 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: But I'm having trouble getting home at the moment too. 574 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: Somebody said yesterday U actually Carl was round delivering my 575 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: coffee machine. He's fixed its back, so that was a 576 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: very exciting day. But we were talking. I was a 577 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: tremendous trouble getting home at the moment because the traffic 578 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: is just mental. And I said Carl, I'm having trouble 579 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: getting home at the moment because the traffic's just mental 580 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: and he said, I reckon, it's Black Friday? And I thought, 581 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: is it? And then I read in the Herald yesterday 582 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: is one of their weird headlines that you've got to 583 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: start planning for Black Friday, as though, plan what plan 584 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: your park, or plan your bus route, or plan what 585 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: you're going to buy? What are you planning anti anxiety needs? 586 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 7: Yeah? 587 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: Probably? But I mean, is that a thing. Is the 588 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: traffic crazy at the moment just because of Black Friday? 589 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: Or am I literally making that up five minutes away 590 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: from seven for the ins and the ouse. 591 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity 592 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: to the next lift. 593 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: Now this is the weird Uber stuff I promised you. 594 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: So they've relaunched their Uber Green service. This is here 595 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. They're calling an Uber Electric. So basically, 596 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: you can request an EV to pick you up no 597 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: extra cost. If you want an EV, no extra cost. 598 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: Does an EV a hybrid? What if a hybrid turns up? 599 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: What if the PRES turns up? Is that electric or 600 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: is that a hybrid? Eh. As part of the relaunch, 601 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 2: they've commissioned some research. Why wouldn't you. It's done by 602 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 2: Stickybeek Limited. They're a company that helps marketers test products. 603 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: So it's revealed the average age of a key we 604 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 2: taking their first ride in an EV's forty one. That 605 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: surprises me, because what happens if you've got an EV 606 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: and you take the kids to school? Be fine, wouldn't it? 607 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. Fifty one percent of people 608 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: admitted they were curious about evs before their first ride. 609 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: After the right after the ride, forty seven percent said 610 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: they came away surprised. 611 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: What crap? 612 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: Whatsolute nonsense? Nineteen percent said they came away relieved after 613 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: their first trip. I mean, what were they thinking was 614 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: going to blow up? I hope this battery car doesn't 615 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: blow up and to set me on fire. Oh it didn't. 616 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: I made it. I'm relieved nineteen percent. Twelve percent said 617 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: they came away feeling astatic. God, they must have boring lives, 618 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: mustn't they? So boy, I was so uninspired with my 619 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: life until I got in my Electra goober And I'd 620 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: tell you what by the end of that journey or 621 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: was it ecstatically survived it because the guy followed Google 622 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: and went three times longer than he actually needed to 623 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: because he hasn't got a clue where he's going. Thirty 624 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: seven percent of people admitted they weren't entirely sure if 625 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 2: the cow was even turned on when they got in, 626 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: they'd be old people, Brian, is this car on? It'll 627 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: be that, wouldn't it. 628 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 9: I don't think old people are taking uber, are they? 629 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: Probably not? Seventeen percent so they didn't know how to 630 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 2: open the doors, to be fair. To be fair, now, 631 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't want to sound like a snob, but I'm 632 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: driving an Aston Martin, and if you've ever seen an 633 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: Esther Martin door handle, they're famous. But there's a certain 634 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: person I'm married to who I can tell you for nothing. 635 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: Still to this day, despite the fact she's got in 636 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: the carming you anytimes, still has trouble with the Esther 637 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: Martin door handles. 638 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names. Talk to 639 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Mike the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing 640 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: real estate differently since nineteen seventy three news Togsdad be. 641 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: Only seven past seven looks like one and done. The 642 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: door technically remains open for another cup. At the twenty 643 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: five of yesterday from the Reserve Bankers, Well, it has 644 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: a finality about it, doesn't it? The governor shortly of course. 645 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: But first at retail level, are the banks moving? Steve 646 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: Yukovic is the CEO of course with Kiwi Banking is 647 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: back with the Steve very good morning to you. What 648 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: Cooperative Bank is making a big deal of their three 649 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: point one on floating? Is everyone moving and moving to 650 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: the appropriate measure? 651 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 12: Well, I think appropriates in the eye of the beholder. 652 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 12: But the everyone is moving, I think you've got to 653 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 12: also be aware that those moves will also impact savers 654 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 12: as well. 655 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: Night. 656 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 12: But I think most people have shown some activity yesterday. 657 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 12: There'll be some unfolding today, I'm sure. 658 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: Do you think that people were waiting for some sort 659 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: of signal that we were done and now they'll start 660 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: making some decisions around money? 661 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 12: Jeez, I hope. So we've had nine cuts now, haven't we, 662 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 12: And so lots of talk about green shoots that you know, 663 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 12: I suppose understand anybody those green shoots are only in 664 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 12: grass which is turned into meat and dairy. But I 665 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 12: mean the market pricing is showing that this is very 666 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 12: near the bottom, if not the bottom. And there's a 667 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 12: famous saying that they don't ring the bell at the bottom, 668 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 12: all the top, so you know, all the market says 669 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 12: that this is very close or as the bottom. 670 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: Okay. One of the one of the committee members yesterday 671 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: in the press conference suggested there's plenty of money out 672 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: there to be borrowed. Is there there's no shortage of equity? 673 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 7: No, there's not. 674 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 12: I think there is plenty of money that wants to 675 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 12: be put to work. I think there's a lot more 676 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 12: private capital as well. You know, people looking around the 677 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 12: world trying to find attractive returns, and that rates in 678 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 12: New Zealand are still relatively attractive to some places. 679 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: They talked yesterday too about the banks, the retail bank's 680 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: margins back to being where they were. The inference, I 681 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: think was that you guys are creaming at a little bit, 682 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 2: are you well? 683 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 12: Ours is flat, so we definitely aren't. But I think 684 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 12: that's a good question for everyone when they look around 685 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 12: to say are there returns appropriate? You know, we've had 686 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 12: a pretty good crack at one and Finance and Expenditure 687 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 12: Committee to say and argue that the present capital rules 688 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 12: mean that the Ossie owned banks make about three quarters 689 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 12: of billion dollars more than they should if the rules 690 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 12: were changed. So we're hoping we're going to get an 691 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 12: update on that. 692 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: On the eleventh of December, when you said, jeez, I hope. 693 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: So what what's your view of the power of cuts, 694 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: because those guys are talked for an entire year about 695 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: the so called flow through to the economy and it 696 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: hasn't happened, or if it has, it's made no difference. 697 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 12: No, I'm with you on that front. I think it's 698 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 12: up to each individual person to feel like they're confident 699 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 12: about that they're ready to go. I mean, there is 700 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 12: absolutely no doubt in my mind that the wealth effect, 701 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 12: which comes from seeing your home go up and price, 702 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 12: makes a big difference. I think, you know, we had 703 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 12: to see a bit more activity in that residential home market. 704 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 12: That helps. We've got a lot of businesses that have 705 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 12: been sitting on their hands, you know, they're hiring intentions, 706 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 12: their investment intentions have been really pretty loop warm. I'm 707 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 12: really hoping that through the next three to six months 708 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 12: people make that individual decision, which is hey, it's time 709 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 12: to invest and stop the lying on a small bunch 710 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 12: of people in Willington. 711 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: You sound trepidacious about twenty six. Is that fair as 712 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: opposed to boys not? 713 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 12: I feel like, you know, this has got to be 714 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 12: the bottom and so as a result of this, I 715 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 12: do believe that business owners and individuals don't want to 716 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 12: sit around on their hands forever. They've done a good 717 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 12: job of paying their bills. Things like rates and insurance 718 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 12: have been hard going. Hopefully we see a better relief 719 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 12: on those fronts as well in twenty six. And then 720 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 12: at the end of the day, people have got to 721 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 12: grow if they want to have a better retirement, So 722 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 12: let's get investing. 723 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Well done. Steve Yukovic's the boss of Kiev Bank, 724 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: of course, eleven minutes past seven, asking Christine Hawksby for 725 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: a final time after seven to thirty four your meantime. 726 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: I remember the pylon that fell over in Northland, Well, 727 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: it's off to court. We have a class action against 728 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: Transpower and MIXIM seeks compensation and justice for the one 729 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand residents the twenty thousand businesses. Lee 730 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: macarro is the CEO of North Chamber and as with us, Lee, 731 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 2: morning to you, good mine. Are you guys in do 732 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: you take a stand on this or a stance on 733 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: this or not. 734 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 17: I think at the stage we're just taking a bit 735 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 17: of a wait and see because when we first when 736 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 17: this first came up and we actually went out to 737 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 17: some of our businesses, they were kind of in the 738 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 17: main set of it's done, that happened, we want to 739 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 17: move on. So I'm not sure that there is that 740 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 17: much energy towards it. There may be from a few, 741 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 17: but I think in general people see this as something 742 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 17: that happened in the past and as long as it's 743 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 17: been learnt from then they're ready to move on. 744 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: It's an interesting view. So what could you suggest that 745 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: these are Australian lawyers by the way, or into this 746 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: class action stuff. Are they trying it on? 747 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 17: Well, you could say that this is a culture that 748 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 17: is probably not aligned with a New Zealand culture and 749 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 17: perhaps others overseas, and whether it's something that our businesses 750 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 17: want to spend that energy on. I think they would 751 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 17: much prefer to see money energy and focus spent on 752 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 17: things like energy resilience, roading and things like that rather 753 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 17: than trying to take down a government identity in. 754 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: Your view, to transpower behave properly post the disaster. 755 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 17: All of my interactions indicate that yes they did. They 756 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 17: took it very seriously and they put in a process 757 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 17: to actually understand what happened and learn from it. And 758 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 17: I think that's really important from a safety perspective, because 759 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 17: as soon as we start taking a blame culture and 760 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 17: finger pointing, there's a lot of risk and issues. 761 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 10: That are swept under the carpet. 762 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 17: They also gave a million dollars to Northland, which has 763 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 17: been half of that's been distributed to projects around the district. 764 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 2: So I think they did Yes, good stuff. Lee, appreciate 765 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: your insight. Lee Mckerror, who's the chief executive Officer of 766 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: North Chamber thirty minutes past seven. So what about Uber Muscle? 767 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: I'd pay extra ride in an awesome v That's very 768 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 2: good business model. Probably the best news of the day 769 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: the New Zealand Rural Games, which are an annual event, 770 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: but they're in Palmers to North. We've got a television 771 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 2: deal with TV and Z. Now what does that mean 772 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: to you? What it means is they going to have 773 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: the Dog Show back on television? Is the Dog Show 774 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: along with Pop Black just screaming out to be retelevised 775 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: Pop Black's a disaster, of course. I tried to get 776 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: the Snooker on Sky and is very successful, but no 777 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: one watched it, so that's a loss. But I reckon 778 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: if you brought the Dog Show back, I reckon there's 779 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: or is that just nostealgia of a certain age. You 780 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: used to watch the Dog Show because there was only 781 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: one channel in the country and there's nothing else to watch, 782 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 2: and it was a Saturday or Sunday night and you 783 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: used to think watching dogs round up sheet was the 784 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: greatest thing. 785 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 7: In the world. 786 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 9: So is that part of the Rural Games? 787 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 5: Is it? 788 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 789 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 9: I thought it was mostly egg catching? 790 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yah, no, No, no, No, if they cover the 791 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: egg catching, it's just boring. But I mean the dog 792 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: shows the highlight of the rules. 793 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 9: We combine it and have somebody trying to mob of 794 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 9: sheep while the dog's trying to bundle them into a 795 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 9: pine run cash that egg? 796 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 2: Where those were the days? I think that's got hit 797 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: written all over. At fourteen past seven, the. 798 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 799 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: News Talk. 800 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: Said, be blow me down. I mean, come on, I 801 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: start talking about the dog Show, and then what I 802 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 2: didn't realize is they're making a film with the dog Show, 803 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: and the film's going to be called a Dog Show 804 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: and it's going to start. I don't know any of 805 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 2: this was happening. It's going to start. Graham McTavish and 806 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: how they turned it into a show because it was 807 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: a contest, wasn't It was a contest where you rounded 808 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: up the sheep. How many people listening to this program 809 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 2: this morning and going what the hell is he talking? 810 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 9: Is it like a documentary? 811 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: Is it it's a film or a film as that 812 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: say in Queensland? 813 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, is it a documentary film or is it a no? No, 814 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 9: it's a film film like a written drugs drama with the. 815 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: Script yeah, worth Worth Peaks and Troughs and. 816 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 9: It would be like Crackerjack, you know the bulls won. 817 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: Oh could we like that? What the hell is he 818 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: talking about? Dog show? Graham McTavish, David Wenham, Now remember 819 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: Whenham from what was the set in Southern Australia with 820 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: Cigared Thornton, absolutely superb and Teresa Healy. The feature film 821 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: inspired by the television show, written and directed by Alex Gelvin. 822 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 2: I apologize, I know not who Alex Gelvin is. I 823 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: hope he's good. Slated for release in late twenty twenty six, 824 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: filming across Wellington and the wire Rapper. Last time I 825 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: looked at the Wellington and the wire Rapper region in 826 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 2: terms of farming. This fabulous story on country calendar. Why 827 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 2: do they make a movie a country calendar as well? 828 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: While they're at it, fabulous beef farm out the back 829 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 2: of Wellington with they got the windmills for the solar 830 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: windmills for the wooden generation. They got the other cows 831 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: as well. Quick thing on beer for you. This interests 832 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 2: me because I'm not a huge beer drinker. I've started 833 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: drinking beer because the weather's warmed up, so I'm a 834 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: warm weather beer drinker. And what generally happens as a 835 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: rule is I buy a dozen and they last me 836 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 2: the summer. So if you come to my place in February. 837 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: Obviously no one comes to my place in February, but theoretically, 838 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: if you came to my place in February, you'd probably 839 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 2: find like a beer, possibly two left cans from the dozen. 840 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: So I'm not a big beer drinker. The reason I 841 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: tell you this is that we're drinking about the same 842 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 2: amount of beer, which is two hundred seventy nine million liters, 843 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: And I thought, you know what I do person like me, 844 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: but as burgess. As soon as I see a number 845 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: like that, I hit the calculator and I've worked out 846 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: that that is sixty seven liters per person, so I 847 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: base it on there's four million adults of drinking age, 848 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: but not every one of the four million drinks at all. 849 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 2: Far less drinks beer, so I've averaged it out a bit. 850 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 2: But at four million, you drinks sixty seven liters, which 851 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 2: I cut down to three cans three and a half 852 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: cans a week. Now I don't personally drink three and 853 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: a half cans a week or anywhere close to that. 854 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: So someone's drinking my lot and every other person who 855 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 2: doesn't drink beer at all. But at three and a 856 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 2: half cans a week every week all year, that's a 857 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 2: lot of beer. And that's before you get to French martinis. 858 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 2: I didn't see any stats yesterday on French martinis, but 859 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 2: I reckon there's. 860 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 9: A story needs to follow up stats on the cocktail Chaser. 861 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 2: I reckon there's a story there to be told. Seven twenty. 862 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, power 863 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: By News Talks. 864 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 10: I'd be. 865 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: See changes the program. I was thinking about a lot 866 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 2: of you texted me saying Adrian Newe is to going 867 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 2: to become the Esther Martinine principal from twenty six, which 868 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,919 Speaker 2: is very big cool. 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That's one word, 887 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 2: Wanderasia Tours dot com ski it's weirder. The director or 888 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: the producer of the shows just listening to the program ringing, 889 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: and I'll come back to that in a moment. Where 890 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 2: am I seven twenty four I'll tell you what tell 891 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 2: you what I like about the educators winging away as 892 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 2: they had been this week over won the curriculum redo 893 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 2: and to the treaty treatment is they are at least 894 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 2: standing their ground. They're having their say and that's no 895 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: bad thing. Struck me yesterday when I read Roger Graves 896 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 2: Speaks Roger Grave auckland Port, when he talked of No Zealand, 897 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 2: of naysayers, of the cruise people he visited in Miami 898 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 2: and their view of New Zealand not wanting a cruise 899 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: industry of justinta done call him Petrie Dishes. Where were 900 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 2: the Roger Grays when she was actually in charge in 901 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 2: wrecking the joint? Huh? The educators at least are bold 902 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 2: enough to tell the current government they don't like what's 903 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 2: going on. But where was the business community as their 904 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: companies were being shafted in the prizes for gonads and backbone? 905 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: The educators win hands down. Not that they're right, of course, 906 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: and in that is the gargantuan irony. The educators complained 907 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: about rules and change and yet irrefutably on the wrong 908 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: side of history given the education outcomes produced in this country. 909 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: And yet businesses business was nowhere near nowhere to be 910 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 2: seen or heard, despite the fact that we all knew 911 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 2: the country was being strangled by powerful freaks, and they 912 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: would eventually be proven to be right. But as much 913 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: as I defend an educator's right to speak up, there 914 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: is something deeply insidious about the way educators, particularly unions, operate, 915 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: don't you think the list, the list these signatories, the 916 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: signatories of principles who have signed this protest to the 917 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: Education minister over the curriculum change is driven by the 918 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: education minister told us by the unions. And it's a 919 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: standover tactic. It's an intimidatory play. You're bullied, you're harried, 920 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: you're cajoled into signing, hence she claims you then ring 921 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: her up and tell you you sign reluctantly. That sadly 922 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 2: says something about a principle that acts out of fear, 923 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: sort of like business, hating the decision but saying nothing. 924 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 2: Fear is no way to live your life. But for 925 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: some I get it. I mean, life is sured. Who 926 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: needs the grief. But if that is the mentality in education, 927 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: if that is the modus operandi of the unions, what 928 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 2: sort of will there are our kids entering into? What 929 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 2: sort of brainwashing, whether overt or subliminal? Do our kids 930 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 2: get subjected to The Minister in telling saw this on 931 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 2: Tuesday said it's disgusting, and she said it with passion. 932 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: It's disgusting. Anyone wanted to disagree with that? Asking Yeah, 933 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,800 Speaker 2: Celia Jaspers in the car listening. She's the director or 934 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 2: the producer or the runner or something for the movie. 935 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,479 Speaker 2: She also happens to work with the Country Calendar, Small World. 936 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: Mike a dog Show, so a rip off of Babe, 937 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: but sit in a location where everyone would prefer to 938 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 2: eat the star. Mike the Dog Show film has been 939 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 2: advertised on the Country Sounds Great memories of my childhood. Sorry, 940 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 2: I must have missed the Country the day they did that, Mike. 941 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: I signed up and watched the snooker. Good on you. 942 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: You one of a few if I live stream my 943 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: snooker from the weekend. Would you watch just looking for me? 944 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,800 Speaker 9: Less swearing than some of the other live streams that 945 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 9: we've had from your property. 946 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 2: No, it's not, actually, Mike, the six pm slot on 947 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: television one is up for grabs. I'd take the dog Show. 948 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 9: Actually, that would probably probably you get a significant bump 949 00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 9: of viewerships. 950 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: You wouldn't want risk that, would you? What if it 951 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 2: rated better, then you'd have some questions to answer, wouldn't you. 952 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 2: Speaking of questions to answer, Christian Hawksby one last time 953 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: Beck Wronger. I couldn't believe it when I read this yesterday. 954 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: She's getting up early for us in Australia, said God 955 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: bless her for that. But this is her first original 956 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: material album coming out in fifteen years. What's she been 957 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 2: doing for goodness sake? Anyway? Big Wronger with us after 958 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: eight o'clock. This morning news is next. 959 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: Credible, compelling. The breakfast show you confess it's the Mic 960 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News, 961 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:34,959 Speaker 1: togs Head been today. 962 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: Mike is a good, hard working trucky. I sip away 963 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 2: on an average of forty eight stubs a week. Forty 964 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 2: eight a joe every one. What's that every day? If 965 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: you drank every day that it'll be almost seven. If 966 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,880 Speaker 2: you take a day off, you take a day off, 967 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: it'll be eight. It's quite a beer, isn't it. Twenty 968 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: It's all part of the economy though, Speaking of which, 969 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 2: are twenty three to eight one more time for the 970 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: Interim Reserve Bank governor twenty five points It was cash 971 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 2: rate of two point twenty five. A general sense, the 972 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 2: job has done, the rates are low, inflation will come 973 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: down further, and those green shoots of twenty six can prospect. 974 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: Christian Rsby's were this morning today. If this broadly is it, 975 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 2: and you want to bring back boring and boring does 976 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: come back, how would you assess your committee's handling of 977 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 2: this whole exercise? 978 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 10: What's the which exercise, the whole year. 979 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: Of exercise, the large number of cuts, the commentary, all 980 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 2: that came with it. 981 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 10: We've been playing, you know, playing the wats in front 982 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 10: of us, an economy that was in recovery at the 983 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 10: beginning of the year, stalled in the middle, and you know, 984 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 10: just responding that through time according to what it means 985 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 10: for our inflation mandate and our inflation target. We I think, 986 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 10: in particular, the fifty basis point cut in October was 987 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 10: really designed as a shot in the arm to get 988 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 10: rid of that excessively cautious mindset and businesses and households 989 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 10: and really start which we're confident is happening through the 990 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 10: second half of this year and that will continue on 991 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 10: into next the fifteen. Things running at about a three 992 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 10: percent annualized race at the moment the. 993 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: Fifty percent cut came off the back of course of 994 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: nothing in the middle of the year. Was the nothing 995 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 2: the no move? Was that a mistake? With the benefit 996 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: of hindsight, we were. 997 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 10: Worried through the first half of this year about inflation 998 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 10: expectations and just living in that world where inflation had 999 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 10: been quite high recently and just how much that was 1000 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 10: going to linger. So that had been an upside risk 1001 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 10: right through the course of the first half of this year. 1002 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 10: I think in the second half that has abated and 1003 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 10: given us more confidence that we can get rates lower 1004 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 10: and get on the things. 1005 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: The lack of response to the stimulation and once again 1006 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 2: talking about pretty much the whole year, this whole journey, 1007 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 2: did you overcook your belief in the power of a 1008 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 2: cut or are we just in a funk and nothing 1009 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: you could do was going to shift us. 1010 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 10: It is a little bit of a puzzle. I mean 1011 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 10: that New Zealand has has struggled a bit more than 1012 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 10: other countries through this middle part of the year. Some 1013 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 10: of it's through you know, some of it's because of 1014 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 10: the global tariff, you know, situation in uncertainty. Some of 1015 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 10: it is just caution, you know, and that's why we 1016 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 10: really needed that sort of kickstart through October and to 1017 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 10: the end of the year. 1018 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the five to one vote, who's the one. 1019 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 10: Not discosed? 1020 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 15: Was it? 1021 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 9: You? 1022 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 10: Not discused? 1023 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 15: Why not? 1024 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 2: Because I'm finding the FED fascinating as I'm sure you are. 1025 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: I know what the FED thinks and they talk about 1026 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 2: it publicly. Wouldn't we be better off if you guys 1027 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: did that. 1028 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 10: I think we're probably on a pathway to do that, 1029 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 10: to be especially the external members of the NPC. You know, 1030 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 10: it was quite restrictive on them initially. It's more permissive 1031 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 10: now for them to get out and talk. Prisana guy 1032 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 10: who's one of our externals, has been out talking more often. 1033 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 10: I think that's probably the direction of travel. There will 1034 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 10: be more from the different members. 1035 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 7: We need to be. 1036 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 10: Careful though, because you know, I look at places like 1037 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 10: the UK and the US and you have all these 1038 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 10: different members in different corners, and you know, they're really 1039 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 10: fighting their corner. They're not listening to each other and 1040 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 10: sort of trying to work towards the best best outcome. 1041 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 10: And you get places like the UK where you have 1042 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 10: three ways splits between different members and what do you 1043 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 10: make of that if you're in the market. 1044 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, at least you know though, don't you. 1045 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 10: Well doesn't really give you a good sense of the 1046 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 10: direction of travel of the. 1047 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 2: Well, it gives you the sense that everyone's disagreeing with 1048 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 2: each other. 1049 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 10: That's one thing you can take from it. 1050 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: The Q two Q three thing that you talked about 1051 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: yesterday I found fascinating. I am told there's a fairly 1052 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 2: significant revision in some way, shape or form coming to 1053 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 2: Q two. Is that your understanding, and if it is, 1054 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 2: what's it revised to ish? 1055 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 10: It's not that Q two will be reviol I mean, 1056 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 10: it may be revised, but it's more of a timing 1057 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 10: issue that there are seasonal you know, there could be 1058 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 10: some revision there, but there could also be some seasonal 1059 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 10: adjustments as well, such that kind of Q three and 1060 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 10: particularly Q four gets bumped up and kind of looks 1061 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 10: probably bigger than it really is as an underlying number. 1062 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 10: So yeah, there's a lot of noise in that Q 1063 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 10: two number. But even if you strip it out, we 1064 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 10: still think the economy contracted through that period. But going forward, 1065 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 10: much more confidence about Q three and Q four being 1066 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 10: on the app in. 1067 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 2: A calendar year then we're going to get some decent growth. 1068 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 2: An't well if you go back to Q one, revise 1069 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 2: up Q two a bit, even if it's negative. Q 1070 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 2: three looks solid, and for metrics had zero point nine 1071 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 2: Q four looks Okay. That's growth, isn't it? 1072 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 10: I mean modest over the calendar year. If you look 1073 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 10: over the second half the year, we think you're at 1074 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 10: a run rate of getting up towards three percent over 1075 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 10: that six months, which, as you say, is a good, 1076 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 10: good run rack to have, and it's something we need 1077 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 10: to have because we've got a lot of spare capacity 1078 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 10: in the economy. I've got a lot of headroom, and 1079 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 10: that's partly why we've been cutting interest rates to close 1080 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 10: that gap. 1081 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: All right, do you Christian? This will be the final 1082 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: time we talk unless you're going to be a politician 1083 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 2: or something. Are you heading off overseas? Have you got 1084 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: a new job, what are you going to do? 1085 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 10: I am focused. I've been focused on getting to the 1086 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 10: finish line and the role that I'm in at the moment, 1087 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 10: and then just have a really long and good break 1088 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 10: over the summer wearing a T shirt, candles shorts for 1089 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 10: as long as I can. 1090 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 2: Were you disappointed you didn't get the big job. 1091 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 10: I'm excited about doing something different. I've been on the 1092 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 10: Monetary Policy Committee for seven years now, I've done forty 1093 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 10: nine meetings, forty nine decisions. Time to do something else. 1094 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,719 Speaker 2: And what are your observations of doctor Emma Breeman. Is 1095 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 2: she going to be a rock star? 1096 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 11: I think she'll be great. 1097 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 10: I've had six met since we're here as part of 1098 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 10: the sort of induction and handover. Yeah, she'll do a 1099 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 10: great job. 1100 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,879 Speaker 2: I'm sure good stuff and I wish you very best 1101 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 2: for the holiday season. Christian hawksby the well almost as 1102 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: of Monday. The former Interim Reserve Bank Governor seventeen to. 1103 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: Two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio 1104 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks. 1105 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 2: It'd be worrying, Mike. Hate to critique your excellent work, 1106 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 2: but you seems stuck in the labor mindset whereby the 1107 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank's job revolves around supporting the economy through the 1108 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 2: gold of maximum sustainable employment. Of the current sole focus 1109 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 2: on price stability. It's up to the government to set 1110 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 2: the framework and business to run with it to alter 1111 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 2: the economy. I hate this blame game. Otherwise, you work 1112 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: gets to pass mcdave. It was a critique and I 1113 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 2: take it personally and I hate you now. The point 1114 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: you make is not unreasonable, but I think even Nicola 1115 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: Willis would happily concur that it's in unison. So the 1116 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 2: reliant it's on the Reserve bank probably a bit. I mean, 1117 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 2: it's like the argument that we all rely on our 1118 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: house price going up, and if somebody tells you it's 1119 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: worth another hundred thousand dollars, you go build a deck 1120 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 2: or go to Fiji. But equally, you cannot have a 1121 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,879 Speaker 2: government doing what the government has done. And the government 1122 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 2: has done all they can as far as I can 1123 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 2: work out to this point, and trimming themselves up and 1124 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 2: back and allowing us to get on with it and 1125 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,279 Speaker 2: changing the rules and the red tape and stuff like that. 1126 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 2: But you've got to have the Reserve Bank in play, 1127 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 2: and they've got to play the game. So I think 1128 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 2: both play a pretty significant role, and you can't just 1129 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 2: let the Braserve Bank wander around doing But it was 1130 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 2: an interesting question. I mean, I suppose this is it 1131 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 2: the end for now? Anyway, If this is it, what 1132 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 2: is the role of a cut in the cash rate 1133 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 2: given you cannot say they didn't get there in the end, 1134 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 2: you cannot say they didn't do it over and over 1135 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 2: and over and over again, and each and every time 1136 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 2: they said the same thing, each and every time, they said, 1137 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,279 Speaker 2: the stimulus effect is flowing through, it is going to 1138 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 2: flow through, It is flowing through, it will continue to 1139 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 2: flow through. They've said that, they've been dreadfully consistent on that, 1140 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 2: And yet has it And if it has, where's it gone? 1141 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: What happened to it? Where's the pickup? Where's and and 1142 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 2: even Christian and the answers to the question was it's 1143 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 2: a puzzle. So it was, what do you say it 1144 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 2: was a puzzle? It's confusing. I mean, they don't know. 1145 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: And I still maintain that we have because a lot 1146 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: of the economy is a psychological thing. It's not just 1147 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 2: a monetary thing. It's not just nuts and bolts. It's psychological. 1148 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 2: If you believe you're miserable, you're miserable. If you believe, 1149 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,399 Speaker 2: you go go, if you go get a year ago 1150 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 2: getter and I believe that we got ourselves into a funk. 1151 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,439 Speaker 2: We were determined to be in a funk. We loved 1152 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 2: for a period of time being in a funk. There 1153 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 2: are still some people in this country and a funk 1154 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 2: and they're happy being there, and nothing Adriana was ever 1155 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 2: going to do was going to change that, or indeed 1156 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 2: Christian and so I think ultimately you put a third 1157 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 2: wheel in there. So the government does their job, the 1158 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank does their job. Maybe it's time that we 1159 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 2: did ours. Ten away from it. 1160 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking freak with a Vita retirement Communities News 1161 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: Togsdad b. 1162 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,120 Speaker 2: Mike, we're on a three percent growth run rate for 1163 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 2: the second half. Just the useless bias media play it down. Well, 1164 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: don't get me started on the media. Let me know 1165 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 2: what I know. Let me tell you what I know. 1166 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 2: We had one percent in the first quarter, we had 1167 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 2: minus point nine in the second. That's being revised. No 1168 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 2: one seems to know what it's going to be revised 1169 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 2: up to. But let's call it negative. Let's call it 1170 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 2: negative point three. So we're up point seven for the 1171 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 2: calendar year, right, remember that point seven infometrics Brad. We 1172 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 2: like Brad, so we trust him. He's got zero point 1173 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 2: nine for Q three, so we're do the numbers. That's 1174 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 2: point six, that's one point six, and so whatever Q 1175 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 2: four is, you add to that pretty good growth. I 1176 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: don't know if it's three, but it's pretty good growth. 1177 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 17: Right. 1178 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 2: Confirmation that Adrian Newey designed genius has been made this 1179 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 2: morning the team principle of Aston Martin, which is I 1180 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 2: think I'm right in saying a surprise because I watched 1181 00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 2: a very good piece of the race. Once again, I 1182 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 2: if you're an F one fan, the race on YouTube 1183 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 2: as a good collection of people who are right in 1184 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 2: the weeds of F one. They were suggesting just the 1185 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 2: other day there was a guy from X, guy from 1186 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 2: I think this Mercedes can't remember his name doesn't really 1187 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,319 Speaker 2: matter because he hasn't got the job. And the other 1188 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: one was a guy called Christian Horner, and they thought 1189 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 2: Horner could be the go because one he can get 1190 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 2: back with Newie. Newei and Horner had problems in a 1191 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 2: relationship and they sort of fell out a bit, but 1192 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 2: apparently that's been patched up. New He knows Horner and 1193 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 2: Horner knows Newi, and they were sensationally successful together at 1194 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 2: Red Bull. Horner wants a slice of the action and 1195 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 2: a team Aston could give that to him, because the 1196 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,800 Speaker 2: alternative is lpin. So it's sort of they were lining 1197 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 2: up Horner to be the next go to and so 1198 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 2: it hasn't happened. So I don't know whether that was 1199 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 2: even a real thing or not. But Adrian Knew, he's 1200 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 2: my great consider around. Adrian Knew. Adrian Newey, look him up. 1201 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 2: They're making a documentary. What's his face Old Jennifer's X 1202 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 2: Afflic Yeah, Afflic and Damon are making it documentary on him. 1203 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 2: He's one of those really rare individuals who seems to 1204 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 2: see things in an engineering sense that no one else can, 1205 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 2: hence Red Bull's extraordinary success over the last handful of years. 1206 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: So the great hope is the rules are changing in 1207 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 2: F one and they're designing brand new cars for twenty 1208 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 2: twenty six. The great hope, and this is where Lawrence 1209 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 2: Stroll is smart. He's gone and hired the best in 1210 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 2: the business. If you could, and you ask anybody who's 1211 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 2: running any team, if you could hire anybody to design 1212 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: your new car, tell me who it is, twelve out 1213 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,600 Speaker 2: of ten of them would say Adrian Newey. So Eston 1214 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 2: got Adrian Newey. He's going to come up with a 1215 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 2: new car. The expectation must be I'm assuming through the 1216 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 2: roof because as I say, he sees things nobody else does. 1217 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,360 Speaker 2: So he looks at the rules and the regulations and 1218 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: he goes, I think I could do that and that 1219 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 2: and that, and that's going to give us the advantage. 1220 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 2: So there we expectation on. 1221 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 16: Now. 1222 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 2: The problem with all of this is he's good at that? 1223 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,479 Speaker 2: Is he good at running a team, because just because 1224 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 2: you can host a radio program doesn't mean you can 1225 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 2: run a radio station. A lot of people tell me 1226 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:07,760 Speaker 2: that when I apply for other jobs. So just because 1227 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 2: you're an engineering genius, can you run a whole team? 1228 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 2: Are you too stretched? And that's the other problem. So 1229 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 2: what do you take a risk in taking a mum 1230 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 2: off the you know? So anyway, we wish him well. 1231 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: So he's been announced this morning as the head of 1232 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 2: Aston mart. The other quick thing I needed to tell 1233 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 2: you Nick Sutner, who I like very much. He's the 1234 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 2: head of Eden Park. So he was busy in front 1235 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 2: of a group of people yesterday explaining how they're going 1236 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 2: to make next to no money next year at Eden 1237 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 2: Park because they can't do what they want to do. 1238 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 2: In other words, you know the rules around the Eden Park. 1239 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 2: It's just a joke. It's from nineteen forty two. It's embarrassing. 1240 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 2: So this year their profit is four point two million. 1241 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 2: What do you reckon next year? The projection is the 1242 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: projection next year is one hundred and forty five thousand 1243 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 2: a whole park. Think about the size of Eden Park, 1244 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 2: the facility, and all the things you could do, and 1245 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: all you end up with as a profit of one 1246 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 2: hundred and forty five thousand. Here's the important thing about 1247 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 2: the story. He was wasting his time. He was in 1248 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: front of a council. What were the council doing? They 1249 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: were having a meeting about a report and a proposal. 1250 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 2: What's the proposal? Well, you know what the proposal, as 1251 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 2: Chris Bishop was on the program telling us about the proposal. 1252 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 2: The proposal is that Eden Park opens its doors to 1253 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 2: a whole lot of business. Now the counsel is sitting 1254 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: meeting and considering the proposal. Now what do we know 1255 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: about the proposal. It's a foregone conclusion. The government are 1256 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 2: going to do it anyway. So if you're a counselor, 1257 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 2: if you're a Nick sortner, is this just going through 1258 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: the motions? And what sort of job is that? Why 1259 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 2: would you, as a counselor just simply go through the 1260 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: motions to look at a report, listen to a person, 1261 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 2: have a meeting. When you know full well that no 1262 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 2: matter what you come up with and what you decide 1263 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: has already been decided. What's the point of living your 1264 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 2: life like that? That sounds as boring as now? Beck 1265 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 2: Wronger is standing by? Is she and Sydney for us? 1266 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 2: Somewhere in Australia? Anyway, She's with us after eight o'clock 1267 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 2: this morning, look forward to the catch up. It's been 1268 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 2: a long long time between new albums, but we got 1269 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: news for you. 1270 00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: She's next asking the questions others won't the mic asking 1271 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 1: breakfast with the Defender, embraced the impossible news talks they'd be. 1272 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 2: Co It is seven past a good news for some 1273 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 2: of the Beckronger's back her sixth the studio album is 1274 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 2: called Red Sunset to others the two coming as well. 1275 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 2: First album, first original album in some fifteen years, which 1276 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 2: I find hard to believe. Anyway, Beck wrong is up 1277 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 2: early ish for us in Sydney. Good morning to you, 1278 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 2: Good morning, how are you. I'm very well, indeed lovely 1279 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 2: to catch up with you. What are you doing in Sydney? 1280 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 16: Well, I'm just here for business. You know, I've got 1281 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 16: my aperate board role, and I've got like I'm meeting 1282 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 16: my record label and publisher. Yeah, just getting to get 1283 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 16: into work, just doing some work. 1284 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 2: I don't live here, so you know, now, is that 1285 00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 2: fifteen years the first album? So it is this first 1286 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 2: the original material, completely original material in fifteen years? Is 1287 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 2: that right? 1288 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 15: It is right? 1289 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1290 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 16: I mean I made a covers album maybe eight or 1291 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 16: ten years ago. But you know, yeah, I've actually had 1292 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 16: all these songs kicking round in different forms, but you know, 1293 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 16: I haven't really had a chance to properly focus on 1294 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 16: a new release. But yeah, it's a good time. 1295 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 10: Now. 1296 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 2: Are you excited by it? Nervous? 1297 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 16: I really excited. Yeah, I'm nervous about it. But it's 1298 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 16: good to hear that track that you just played because 1299 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 16: that's one of the songs and I haven't it's funny 1300 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 16: having it out in the world because yeah, and it's 1301 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 16: a bit of a reinvention some of it, so you know, 1302 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 16: that's never easy to do, but it's either reinvent or 1303 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 16: just repeat yourself. So you know, I really kind of 1304 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 16: wanted to try something else. 1305 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: Did something happen specifically, did you go I must do 1306 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 2: an album? Or did someone go, hey, how come you 1307 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 2: haven't done an album. 1308 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 16: To be honest, it's actually because I mean I think 1309 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,480 Speaker 16: I've said to you before and interviews that you know, 1310 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,000 Speaker 16: I just really got really busy with family and now 1311 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 16: one of my kids is moving out and next year 1312 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 16: going to university in Wellington. So I was just like, oh, 1313 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 16: this is this is new. I might have to actually 1314 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 16: get a life, and so I really made a concerted 1315 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 16: effort to kind of go, oh, no, I'm gonna I'm 1316 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 16: going to I'm going to hurt next year, so I 1317 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 16: really need to. Yeah, so I've been actively trying to. 1318 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 2: Get well, okay, so let me talk to you about 1319 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 2: this as a parent then, And here's my take on it, 1320 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 2: because I've had kids move out too, and I hear 1321 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 2: you're you're in the majority, right, So you go, I'm 1322 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 2: going to miss them. Oh it's really going to hurt. 1323 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm the officer. I love getting them out. 1324 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 5: Wow. 1325 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 2: I love No. I love seeing them in the world 1326 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 2: really doing doing their own thing. They're they're they're evolving 1327 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 2: and doing. 1328 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 16: Yeah that's pretty cool. Yeah, I hear you. Yeah, that's 1329 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 16: all really exciting. Yeah, I'm loving that watching. 1330 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 2: That the French thing with this whole thing was recorded 1331 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 2: in the winter. When I say the wind, so I'm 1332 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 2: taking what's that January February of this year. 1333 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 16: Yeah, it was yeah, yeah, and what were you doing now? 1334 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 16: Well again, it was like trying to bookend those parent 1335 01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 16: years because you know, I used to live in Paris 1336 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 16: and I you know, that was like the dream of 1337 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 16: my life to live there. And then when I had 1338 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 16: my family, I was just like, nah, maybe I'm never 1339 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,960 Speaker 16: going to go back there at all, you know. And 1340 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 16: so it was about taking the kids there and like 1341 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 16: sort of as a as a last trip to show 1342 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 16: them Paris. And then we just rented a house with 1343 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 16: a piano and really knocked the record out. It was 1344 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 16: just like it just made an effort to finish it. 1345 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 16: And yeah, so just I wanted it to have some 1346 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 16: of that vibe and just remembering my life before, you know, 1347 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 16: the kids. I don't know. It was just a sort 1348 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 16: of nostalgia trip, was it was? 1349 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 2: It fantastic? 1350 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 16: It was fantastic. It was to get a vibe, you know, 1351 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 16: into the music, yeah, rather than just the sort of 1352 01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 16: mundane of domestic stuff. 1353 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 2: Then yeah, and what when you say you rented a 1354 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:59,600 Speaker 2: house with a piano. Is that with a piano and 1355 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 2: the song comes from the old piano of the eighteen 1356 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,680 Speaker 2: oh seven piano. 1357 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 16: Yes, yes, there was this amazing grand piano. And I 1358 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 16: didn't know this, but there's a thing where you know, 1359 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 16: you can I seldom use AIRBND, but you know there's 1360 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 16: these Wow, there's pools, there's pianos. 1361 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 17: You know. 1362 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 16: I was just like, we're gonna do this. So it's 1363 01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,520 Speaker 16: kind of like, it sort of seems crazy not to 1364 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 16: actually record while was there. 1365 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 2: And so so you literally written so you airbnb'd your 1366 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 2: holiday and you and so you literally recorded the album 1367 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 2: in the house while you're on holiday. 1368 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 16: Yes, correct, Yeah, wow, yep. And yeah, because some of 1369 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,960 Speaker 16: these songs, some of the fragments of this were from 1370 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 16: twenty five years ago. There's unfinished songs from the second 1371 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 16: record that that didn't make the second record and then 1372 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 16: they've been you know, after been finished. 1373 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 2: And okay, yeah that's cool because here's the other thing, 1374 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 2: because this just makes me soundly old. But the albums 1375 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 2: am I right in saying the album's not out yet, 1376 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 2: but you've done this. Three singles are already out. 1377 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's not out till February thirteenth, 1378 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 16: But the first three songs are out, and yeah, we 1379 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 16: we just announced the tour, the olden date and the 1380 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 16: tour dates. 1381 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'll come to the tour in just a couple 1382 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 2: of moments. So the three songs that are that are out, 1383 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 2: so I listened to all of those yesterday, so they're 1384 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 2: all great. What's it feel like to have that bit 1385 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: out with more to come? 1386 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 16: Oh, it's exciting. It's really exciting. But you know, I 1387 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 16: do really appreciate you talking to me this moment because 1388 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 16: what it feels like is it's a really different landscape. 1389 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 16: It's like there's no there's not a lot of music media. 1390 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,920 Speaker 16: There's not a lot of people reviewing albums. And you know, 1391 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 16: the last time it made a record, that's quite a 1392 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 16: lot more yeah media, and so it's a really different landscape. 1393 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there used to be a lot more. There used 1394 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 2: to be a lot more media. Bag that is true. 1395 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 16: Yeah, thank he's crazy. 1396 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 2: Just your hold on two seconds for us, beck wrong, 1397 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 2: who's with us from Sydney. You'll come back with more 1398 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 2: of the tour is coming the summer, so details on 1399 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 2: that as well. For your thirteen past eight. 1400 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: Mike asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News. 1401 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Talks It Use Talks. It be at a sixteen minutes 1402 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 2: past day. Beck Wronger is with us out of Australia. 1403 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 2: The new album which isn't out the yet, a thousand 1404 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 2: February Red Sunset. There are three singles out and we've 1405 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 2: got a tour to come and I'll give you details 1406 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 2: on that. You mentioned Beck Opera. Does opra still work? 1407 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,959 Speaker 2: Is that still a thing for artists and the money 1408 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 2: flows and the envelopes? 1409 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:24,400 Speaker 18: Right? 1410 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 16: Oh, yes, it does still work. And so it's the 1411 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 16: Australasian Performing Rights Association, and you know it's a three 1412 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 16: quarter of a billion dollar business and just in those 1413 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 16: regions and I'm on the board and you know it's 1414 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,120 Speaker 16: every year we were doing better and better and it's 1415 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 16: about getting songwriting royalties. 1416 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Back to exactly songwriters exactly. 1417 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 16: It works really well. 1418 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 2: Do you battle with the streamers in terms of what 1419 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 2: they pay? 1420 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 16: We negotiate prices with them. And then you know, no, 1421 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 16: we don't battle with them. We you know it's they 1422 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 16: know we partner with them. 1423 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Said, there we go. There's the board member talk. It's 1424 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 2: just every time we had page in the other day 1425 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 2: she's a young artist, a lot of talent, all of 1426 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, And I'm always I always ask 1427 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 2: them about revenue streams and you know, where they get 1428 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 2: their money from and how it works and stuff, and 1429 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,080 Speaker 2: I just worry, and this makes me sound old again 1430 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 2: that I worry that they're not surrounded by people who 1431 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 2: are giving them the sort of advice that that this 1432 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 2: is a model, this is a business, that this is 1433 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 2: your living, that you know you need to take care 1434 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 2: of it. Because they're all sort of loving the creativity. 1435 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 16: Yeah, I don't know an artist that hasn't had to 1436 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 16: learn the hard way. You know, you go into it 1437 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 16: with like, you know, eyes wide open and all you 1438 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 16: want to do is make music. But yeah, no, it's 1439 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 16: a it's a bit of a dirty business really, like 1440 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 16: if you're not careful. Definitely. But I did meet Page 1441 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 16: recently and I just I loved how she knew deep 1442 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,360 Speaker 16: down what was going on, and I think that I 1443 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,400 Speaker 16: think a lot of musicians actually do. But you sort 1444 01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 16: of have to have blinkers on to just to get 1445 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,919 Speaker 16: through it. But because it's actually it's it is full 1446 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 16: of skullduggery. And you know, the music industry is not 1447 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 16: a great. Yeah, it's not great environment exactly? 1448 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: Is this all cream on the cake for you these days? 1449 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 2: Did you get to a point that you've been so 1450 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 2: successful that everything's just a bonus and a gold medal? 1451 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 15: Oh? 1452 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 16: No, I kind of as always committed to being a musician, 1453 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 16: you know, right from an early age, from eleven, I 1454 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 16: knew I wanted to be a musician, So I was 1455 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 16: always in it for the long haul, even when it 1456 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 16: just felt like it was going badly. You know, you 1457 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,400 Speaker 16: never lose that sense of yourself as a musician, Like 1458 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 16: I couldn't retire because I don't know, I feel like 1459 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 16: I'd lost my sense of self. So yeah, it's good. Yeah, 1460 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 16: I've got no choice but to keep going. 1461 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 2: When did it go badly? It's never gone badly for you. 1462 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 16: Well, you know, it's one of those things where you 1463 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,080 Speaker 16: you know, you can't stay on top all the time. 1464 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 16: And you know I had hits early, so you know, 1465 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 16: there's a lot of like, you know, just noodling around 1466 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 16: the house and thinking, am I ever going to do 1467 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 16: this again? But yet? But you know I'm here, I'm. 1468 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 2: Still moodling around the house. So what was So what 1469 01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 2: are your expectations on this album? Then do you have 1470 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 2: expectations and hits or what? 1471 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 16: I love it? Yeah, No, that's the thing. We've Being 1472 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 16: where I'm at, I learned how to manage expectations and 1473 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,280 Speaker 16: that's that's the healthiest way to go about it. So 1474 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 16: I'm really you know, I've really I'm happy with myself 1475 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 16: that I finally made new music and and every time 1476 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 16: someone really connects with the music, I realize that's the 1477 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 16: that's the thing that matters. And yeah, so so it's problem, 1478 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 16: it's probably not going to be. There's no sets anymore. 1479 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 16: It's really rare. It's hard, so you know, yeah, it's 1480 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,680 Speaker 16: I'm just happy with where I'm at. 1481 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 2: That's what about the road? What about the tours? What 1482 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 2: about the concerts? And is that still a thrill? 1483 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,600 Speaker 16: I still love that And that's the bit that I 1484 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 16: spent decades trying to get better at. So that's the 1485 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 16: thing that you know, I feel that I can control 1486 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 16: and I really think, you know, that's the good part 1487 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 16: for me. 1488 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 2: Good. You've got to show on Wellington I note with 1489 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 2: the Nzdso has that been recorded? 1490 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 16: Yes, yeah, we just did one with the APO as well, 1491 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 16: and yeah, I loved it. So we you know, once 1492 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,720 Speaker 16: you build a show like that and you commission all 1493 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 16: the arrangements. You know, you could do that forever, and 1494 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 16: it's it was really exciting. It was just such an 1495 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,519 Speaker 16: efficient practice and you know, you just show up and 1496 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,919 Speaker 16: you sing and you just nail every song with the conductor. 1497 01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 16: And then then then mvso approached us to do one. 1498 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 16: So that was you know, like I could do this forever. 1499 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 16: This is so fun. 1500 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Well, well, I've got your schedule 1501 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 2: of I'll give them people the details in just a moment. 1502 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:31,600 Speaker 2: It's all happening in March. What are you doing for 1503 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 2: the holidays? You're going away for Christmas, You're relaxing, you. 1504 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,600 Speaker 16: I've got we're starting to get going outside of you know, 1505 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,839 Speaker 16: we're going to the Philippines and we're going to Thailand 1506 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 16: and for work. You know, so that's really exciting. Those 1507 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,960 Speaker 16: are big markets for me, because you're streaming markets for me. 1508 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,679 Speaker 16: So I'm just going and playing there and having meetings 1509 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 16: there and so I'll take the family to that. 1510 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. Maybe the piano. 1511 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 16: Yeah, but my mom's in Malaysia, so we will all. 1512 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 2: Well, I love you mum, Oh yeah, my mom loves 1513 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 2: you too. 1514 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 16: Yeah. 1515 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:05,880 Speaker 2: I love it and I love you too, man listen 1516 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 2: lovely to keep lovely, to catch up with you, have 1517 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 2: a great holiday, and good luck with the old one 1518 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 2: and all the concerts and stuff. Nice to talk, take care, 1519 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,760 Speaker 2: thanks for having us, yea chairs, how I mean? Is 1520 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 2: she the world's most lovely person? 1521 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:16,600 Speaker 14: Or what? 1522 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,120 Speaker 2: I'll give you the list of concerts in just a 1523 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:18,719 Speaker 2: couple of moments. 1524 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,919 Speaker 1: Eight twenty one the mic Hosking breakfast with the Defender 1525 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: and used togs. 1526 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Head b right. Last week of the Black Friday had 1527 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 2: about healthy the clock officially ticking. So if you've been 1528 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,600 Speaker 2: waiting for the right moment to trying their much loved supplements, 1529 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 2: this is it so about health home with Lesters. 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So she's in hawks Bay 1546 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,120 Speaker 2: in Hamilton, Auckland, christ Church, Wellington, Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, Canberra 1547 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 2: and Fremantle at the Frio Social. So that's in March 1548 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 2: of next year. If you're a Bigrunger fan, Mike great 1549 01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 2: to hear Big Wrunger interesting. Her liaison with the NZSO 1550 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,760 Speaker 2: too might continue, will replace the NZSO playing with Split 1551 01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 2: Ends and Cayrie to Carnaman. Mike are with many Vinderbenni 1552 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 2: or several of Bigroonger's concerts and they never disappoint. Charming 1553 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 2: and a musical delight. Michael walked past to Barren Byron 1554 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 2: Bay twenty four years ago, heard the most beautiful voice. 1555 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 2: So I went and I met Beckwronger doing a live set. 1556 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,560 Speaker 2: Loved her ever since Mike, you're obsessed with musicians, I 1557 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 2: think it's your dream to be one. I don't think 1558 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 2: you would have been a famous if you were. Paul, 1559 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm not obsessed. What I find in musicians, generally speaking, 1560 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,920 Speaker 2: is that they're living their dreams. And I'm all about 1561 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:07,720 Speaker 2: people living their dreams. So if you're living your dream, 1562 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. That's how that works, basically. 1563 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 3: News. 1564 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 2: In a couple of moments, we've got Rachel Reeves. I 1565 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 2: don't know that there's anything left she hasn't taxed today, 1566 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 2: twenty six billion pounds in new taxes. Twenty six billion 1567 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 2: pounds in new taxes. Ender Brady with us shortly. 1568 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic, the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate, 1569 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, used talk 1570 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:39,799 Speaker 1: sad be interesting. 1571 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 2: I've been talking to the Prime Minister earlier on this week, 1572 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 2: and I was talking to about the carbon market, what 1573 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 2: a disaster the carbon market is, and how the governments 1574 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,320 Speaker 2: keep mucking around with the carbon market. That's why nobody 1575 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,160 Speaker 2: turns up and buys credits, and that's why the whole 1576 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,000 Speaker 2: twenty fifty thing is a problem. He still argues, and 1577 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,120 Speaker 2: I won't bore you witlers, but there were various targets. 1578 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 2: So the original target was twenty fifty. Of course nit 1579 01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,240 Speaker 2: zero about twenty fifty, he says, we're still going to 1580 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,360 Speaker 2: get there. Interesting developments yesterday. One of the plans they 1581 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 2: had was to capture and store carbon dioxide from the 1582 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 2: Caperny gas field, and they thought that would help. But 1583 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 2: they formally dropped that, and they've dropped that for very 1584 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:16,880 Speaker 2: good reasons. The high cost of building a carbon capture 1585 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 2: and storage facility was no longer worth it without government investment. 1586 01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,680 Speaker 2: That's what the company came to the conclusion. So that 1587 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 2: was the end of that. But New Zealand needs to 1588 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 2: produce less than three hundred and five million tons of 1589 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 2: greenhouse gas emissions to stay within its twenty six to 1590 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 2: thirty emissions budget. So you got budgets along the way 1591 01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 2: leading to twenty fifty. So three zho five million tons 1592 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 2: is our target for twenty six through thirty, which obviously 1593 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,920 Speaker 2: is what we're about to enter into. Now it would 1594 01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 2: appear that we're going to make it. So that's good. 1595 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,920 Speaker 2: So you say, hello, Louja, congratulations, well done to us. 1596 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 2: We've done something good. Now the question then is if 1597 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 2: we've suddenly dropped the carbon catcher capture, how is it 1598 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,759 Speaker 2: we're going to make And the answer is they've suddenly 1599 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 2: discovered and this is the whole science will say this, 1600 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,840 Speaker 2: They've suddenly discovered that the trees have sucked up a 1601 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 2: lot more carbon dark side than I thought they were. 1602 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 2: Similar to that, we didn't do anything. We didn't then 1603 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 2: pinge on everybody's life. We didn't change any rules, we 1604 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,479 Speaker 2: didn't text anybody, We didn't tell you what to do 1605 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 2: and how to live your life. We just suddenly discovered 1606 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 2: that the trees were sucking up more carbon dark side 1607 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 2: than we thought, and all of a sudden, there as 1608 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 2: a result of that, we will meet our targets. Go 1609 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,840 Speaker 2: figure twenty two to nine. Pasking right I led us 1610 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 2: head now to Britain and into Brady, is whether it's 1611 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:31,839 Speaker 2: in a very good morning. 1612 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 18: To you, good morning, make good to speak to you again. 1613 01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 2: And you two. Is there anything lift? She hasn't text. 1614 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:40,800 Speaker 7: Not much. 1615 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 2: I have to say. 1616 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 18: We're all kind of working out how worse off we're 1617 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 18: going to be. They reckon the average family will be 1618 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:50,759 Speaker 18: his average working family down about three two hundred dollars 1619 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 18: a year off the back of this budget. So look, 1620 01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:56,519 Speaker 18: the messaging from Labor is that Britain is in such 1621 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 18: a tight spot financially that absolutely everyone needs to take 1622 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 18: a hit, and by god, she's done that. They're calling 1623 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 18: it a small gas board of tax rises. 1624 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 2: Did she deliver roughly what you thought she was going 1625 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 2: to or did she go further? 1626 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 18: I think so much of this had been leaked and 1627 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 18: trailed in the press in the last week to ten days, 1628 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 18: and then on top of that, would you believe it, 1629 01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 18: half an hour before Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor, stood up 1630 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 18: in Parliament to deliver the budget for the UK government, 1631 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 18: an organization called the ob or, the Office of Budget Responsibility. 1632 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 18: They published a document with their response to the budget, 1633 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 18: so they'd clearly been given all the budget in advance. 1634 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,040 Speaker 18: They published it way way too early, so journalists had 1635 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,720 Speaker 18: sight of the budget before Rachel Reeves stood up. So 1636 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,800 Speaker 18: it wasn't exactly as if there was anything that came 1637 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 18: as a shock because we were hearing about us on 1638 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,640 Speaker 18: the airwaves half an hour before she spoke twenty. 1639 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,840 Speaker 2: Six pounds in New Texas that she's got Does she 1640 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 2: have the whole or close the fiscal gap or does 1641 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,799 Speaker 2: she just go and spind it all and keep borrowing 1642 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:07,160 Speaker 2: as well. 1643 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 18: No, I think it's a mix of both. So the 1644 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 18: fiscal gap is somewhere in the region of forty billion 1645 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 18: pounds a year. 1646 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,879 Speaker 2: At the moment, so she's closing it. Basically. 1647 01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 18: The conundrum for Labor is they're in government fourteen months 1648 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 18: and they're saying that everything that's happening at the moment 1649 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,559 Speaker 18: hasn't happened in fourteen months. It's dealing with fourteen years 1650 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,000 Speaker 18: of conservative rule. That's what meant the messaging that Labor 1651 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 18: are trying to put out tonight here. Her problem is 1652 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 18: people are very short coming. The bills are going up, 1653 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 18: and we have a long winter ahead of us as 1654 01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,160 Speaker 18: you are embracing spring and summer and all that is 1655 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 18: good if. 1656 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 2: Rubbish weather and very. 1657 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,200 Speaker 18: It was minus one this morning when I went running here, 1658 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 18: so our energy bills will be going through the roof. 1659 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,679 Speaker 18: People are struggling to get to the end of the month. 1660 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 18: And I think the problem for labor is that they've 1661 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 18: taxed the hell out Switzerland, Milan, Dubai, anywhere with a 1662 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 18: less punitive tax regime for the super rich, so they're 1663 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 18: left with basically the middle classes, and I think this 1664 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 18: is a budget. It's good if you're on benefits, it's 1665 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 18: good if you're a low wage earner. But if you're 1666 01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 18: a higher earner or in the middle bracket, I think 1667 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 18: it just is relentless misery of taxation. 1668 01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 2: How does she defend in a country with less than 1669 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,640 Speaker 2: no money, the two child benefit scrapping there so you 1670 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,880 Speaker 2: can have as many children as you like on a benefit. 1671 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you explain that? Well, you just can't. 1672 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 18: I mean even the most ardent of labor supporters will 1673 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 18: think this is one that they really didn't have to 1674 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 18: do right now. They've got another four years until there's 1675 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 18: an election. But my prediction is that, look, they wanted 1676 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,040 Speaker 18: to deliver a labor budget for labor people, to help 1677 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 18: the working family, and I think they've messed that one 1678 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 18: up because the Conservatives are coming out and saying, yep, 1679 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,639 Speaker 18: so your taxes are going up because as they want 1680 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 18: to give welfare to people with loads of kids on benefits. 1681 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 18: And that's the headline. 1682 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 2: Unreal just quickly, just as just an aside, and the 1683 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 2: Lemmy's thing yesterday, I was reading about where he wants 1684 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,720 Speaker 2: to get rid of a lot of jury trials. Is 1685 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 2: that a a major story? And b of it is 1686 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 2: has it got a lot of pushbackers? Everyone on board with. 1687 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 18: It, que story, and I think the timing was deliberate, 1688 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 18: put it out on the eve of a budget, so 1689 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 18: all the journalists are tied up looking at taxes and 1690 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 18: income thresholds and where the money's going to come from. 1691 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 18: I've been covering court cases in the UK for thirty 1692 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 18: two years now and I think it is a cornerstone 1693 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 18: of democracy. The system works brilliantly well. And I think 1694 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,840 Speaker 18: I've been to so many cases and you're just all 1695 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 18: people who agree to jury service turn up put in 1696 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 18: the time, whether it's two weeks or six weeks, it 1697 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,519 Speaker 18: could be six months. It's the cornerstone of criminal justice 1698 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,599 Speaker 18: and democ christy in the UK really and I think 1699 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,760 Speaker 18: the criminal justice system is on its knees backlog of 1700 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 18: eighty thousand cases, Mike, that's why they're doing this. 1701 01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,880 Speaker 2: Good to see you, mate, you go well, appreciate it 1702 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 2: very much. Into Brady, who's in for a rod little 1703 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 2: this morning. Just just as see. First of all, the 1704 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 2: mansion tax, it's not a mention. This is for homes 1705 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 2: worth more than two million pounds. You know, homes in 1706 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 2: New Zealand worth two million bucks are not mentioned, and 1707 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:23,920 Speaker 2: we all understand that, and they understand the same thing 1708 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,679 Speaker 2: in Britain, mainly in the southeast of England, in places 1709 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 2: like London. So if you've got a two million pound house, 1710 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 2: you're not in a mansion, you're just in a nice 1711 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 2: house anyway. So that's another six thousand dollars a year. 1712 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 2: That's on top of your rates and all the taxes 1713 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 2: you already pay. You just pay another six thousand dollars 1714 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,640 Speaker 2: a year because you can allegedly, and if you've got 1715 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 2: a house worth more than five million, which I would 1716 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 2: argue is still not a mention, still just a very 1717 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,960 Speaker 2: nice house, you'll be paying another sixteen thousand dollars a year. 1718 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 2: So rates, taxes, all that sort of thing, and we'll 1719 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 2: have another sixteen thousand dollars a year just because you've 1720 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 2: got a nice house. That's the sort of thing. They're 1721 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,080 Speaker 2: into it. And by the way, we will give that 1722 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 2: to people who can now have as many children as 1723 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,000 Speaker 2: they like. Wealthare go Figure sixteen two. 1724 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 1725 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:08,880 Speaker 1: by News Talks at. 1726 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,320 Speaker 2: B there's a great story from Resonate customer. Customer is Lisa. 1727 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,680 Speaker 2: She's a hearing aid warer herself, and she said she 1728 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 2: actually google does Keith Richard's wear hearing aids and then 1729 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,560 Speaker 2: she laughs. This says, I'm getting a hip replacement so 1730 01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,719 Speaker 2: I can swing my leg over the bike. Why wouldn't 1731 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 2: I make myself better in every other way? Very very 1732 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 2: good point, because she's right. See, we take supplements, we 1733 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 2: work out, we get a new hip, we get a 1734 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,040 Speaker 2: new nee, all that sort of stuff to keep thinking 1735 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,920 Speaker 2: and doing the things we love. Right, and hearing is 1736 01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 2: no different. Hearing well is part of staying young. So 1737 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 2: Lisa says, people take all their health foods because they 1738 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 2: want to stay fit and stay young, while hearing aids 1739 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 2: keep you young as well, So you're much better off 1740 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,760 Speaker 2: being part of the conversation that sitting on the edge 1741 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,920 Speaker 2: of it. That is why she is with Resonate Health. 1742 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:51,040 Speaker 5: Now. 1743 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 2: For ninety dollars a month, you get top of the 1744 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 2: range hearing aids, full support, and a free upgrade every 1745 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 2: three years. The price locked in for life. So if 1746 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,720 Speaker 2: you want to stay active, stay confident, stay young, just 1747 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,479 Speaker 2: like Lisa I eight hundred seven three seven sixty six 1748 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 2: two I eight hundred seven three seven sixty six two, 1749 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,439 Speaker 2: or you go to Resonate Health dot co dot nz 1750 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 2: paskime Mike Wilby in for Texas like that if Hipkins 1751 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 2: gets the CGT. Mike was at the Future Labor New 1752 01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,639 Speaker 2: Zealand budget we just discussed with Ender. Mike wasn't Hipkins 1753 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,719 Speaker 2: over in England a few months ago seeing how labor 1754 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,920 Speaker 2: would exactly He went to the conference. Remember he went 1755 01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 2: over to Liverpool and he was going to hang out 1756 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,200 Speaker 2: with Kostarmer for a while. It's been a long time, 1757 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,800 Speaker 2: you know, disassociate yourself with the labor thing. But it's 1758 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 2: been a long time that you've seen a Newish government 1759 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 2: anywhere that has been that as cataclysmic as the Starmer 1760 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 2: labor government of twenty twenty four to twenty five, twenty six, 1761 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,800 Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty eight. Given they've got a five year term, 1762 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 2: is over twenty ones get twelve pounds seventy one an hour, 1763 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 2: so that right that's gone up fifty p They've got 1764 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,080 Speaker 2: different age groups in that country, eighteen to twenty to 1765 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 2: get an eighty five p rise to ten eighty five 1766 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,600 Speaker 2: and the under eighteens and apprentices get forty five p 1767 01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 2: more an hour to eight pounds an hour eight pounds 1768 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,160 Speaker 2: an hour, and don't there's no point we got a 1769 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,760 Speaker 2: son in Britain. There's no point going oh yeah, but 1770 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 2: that's eighteen New Zealand dollars. It makes no difference because 1771 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:11,639 Speaker 2: you earn pounds, you spend pounds. And I can tell 1772 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 2: you living in Britain is an expensive business. Minimum increases 1773 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 2: are on top, by the way, those wage increases are 1774 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,599 Speaker 2: on top of the six point seven for the over 1775 01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,720 Speaker 2: twenty ones, the sixteen percent for the eighteen to twenty 1776 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 2: year olds that they got last year, and you wonder 1777 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 2: why the place is broke. And then we come to 1778 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,400 Speaker 2: Kia was actually at a school. He was at Well 1779 01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,760 Speaker 2: in the Caadam in Peterborough, and he led the kids 1780 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,840 Speaker 2: in a sixty seven dance and this six seventh thing 1781 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:41,680 Speaker 2: is a thing. Look it up if you don't know 1782 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 2: what it is. Anyway, he led them in a dance. 1783 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,960 Speaker 2: He was reading with pupils when one pointed out that 1784 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 2: they were on pages six and seven, and then the 1785 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,760 Speaker 2: Prime Minister made the juggling hand gesture and off they went. 1786 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 2: And the problem was he goes, oh that got about 1787 01:23:58,400 --> 01:23:59,880 Speaker 2: that got a bit carried away, didn't he said to 1788 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 2: the teacher and the teachers actually the six seven dancers 1789 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 2: banned here at the school. And do you know what 1790 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,720 Speaker 2: he said as Prime Minister of the country. Well, I 1791 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 2: didn't start it, he later said. 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This also comes by 1822 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:46,080 Speaker 2: the ways Paramount, Comcast and Netflix are putting in bids 1823 01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 2: for Warner Brothers Discovery studio and streaming assets, so that's 1824 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:53,000 Speaker 2: in play at the moment. It's they've been looking to 1825 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,320 Speaker 2: do it for about two twenty years, two decades. Rush 1826 01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 2: Our four anyway, Brett Ratner. I don't know if I 1827 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 2: near ever knew this or I just forgot, but anyway, 1828 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 2: the director Brett Ratner, his career fell over in twenty seventeen. 1829 01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 2: Several actors accused him of sexual misconduct. He denied it 1830 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 2: all no one was ever charge, et cetera, et cetera. 1831 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,719 Speaker 2: But that was back in a time when if anyone 1832 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,639 Speaker 2: said anything then you were canceled. 1833 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 9: So you know, he's a mate of Larry Allison, La 1834 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:24,320 Speaker 9: Larry Allison's Larry's back back, and Trump likes action movies 1835 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 9: and car chases and explosions and you do the. 1836 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,000 Speaker 2: Math, and he likes peace in our time as well. 1837 01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 2: I'm told, was that just Steve Woodcock talking to Putin? 1838 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 2: I can't remember. Five minutes away from nine. 1839 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Trending now with Kemna Twells Black Friday. 1840 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,799 Speaker 2: Sale now right, O'shawn Duffy is the man who's cleaning 1841 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,080 Speaker 2: up America's act when it comes to flying. He's said 1842 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 2: that everything would be better if people stop wearing beer 1843 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,320 Speaker 2: pajamas on flights, and of course he's right. He can't 1844 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,000 Speaker 2: argue with that. He's released a video talking to an 1845 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 2: ear hostess. 1846 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 14: So let's talk about civilities and what can we do 1847 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,040 Speaker 14: to make the fate experience. 1848 01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,679 Speaker 2: A little more several, a little better, a little happy. 1849 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 15: We love when people walk on board and say hello, please, 1850 01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:07,599 Speaker 15: and thank yous during the surface, you know, especially during boarding. 1851 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 15: To hear thank you when it's the hardest part of 1852 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,840 Speaker 15: my day coordinating all of the ground activities and walcom 1853 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 15: me people on board immediately goes a long way. 1854 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nice. As people are traveling for Thanksgiving at 1855 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,719 Speaker 2: the moment in record numbers, so what are they thinking 1856 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,360 Speaker 2: about all of this? And are they wearing any pajamas, crocs, 1857 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 2: comfy socks, flaggings, a hoodie and if my hair depending 1858 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,360 Speaker 2: on how my hair is looking a body. 1859 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,760 Speaker 15: At least a nice top keep warm because it gets 1860 01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,600 Speaker 15: a little cold on the plane, and then it's the 1861 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,520 Speaker 15: comfortable pants, but never pajamas. 1862 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,520 Speaker 7: Don't make our trip political. 1863 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,120 Speaker 15: Have people enjoy theirselves and get on a flight and 1864 01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 15: enjoy themself to give with their family on Thanksgiving. 1865 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 7: I don't really mind it. If other people aren't super dressy, 1866 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 7: that's okay with me. 1867 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm not super worried about it. A lot of people 1868 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,679 Speaker 2: drunk on planes these days. Is reading the article about 1869 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 2: it the other day, another article. I know I told 1870 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 2: the story the other day, but I've written other article 1871 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,639 Speaker 2: about the story I told the other day. And there's 1872 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,960 Speaker 2: just an increasing number of drunk people on planes that 1873 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,920 Speaker 2: just cause trouble. And it's not about clothing and pants 1874 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 2: and what you're wearing. It's just about can we. 1875 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,480 Speaker 9: Have two different kinds of flights. 1876 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,920 Speaker 2: Different show sp What an excellent idea, just we class 1877 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 2: and uncivil class yep, you can like if you're if 1878 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,120 Speaker 2: you're a bit pissed and you're in some crocs, that 1879 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 2: you flight over there. If you want to be normal, 1880 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,840 Speaker 2: that you flied over there. Back tomorrow, Happy Days. 1881 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,560 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 1882 01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,759 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1883 01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,320 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.