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Speaker 2: Hello you guy Zillas, and welcome to Matin Tyler Afternoons

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Speaker 2: podcast number one oh six. It's the full show podcast

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Speaker 2: for the Thursday, the tenth of April. Fantastic show today,

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Speaker 2: some uplifting stories from a greyhound. We actually get a

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Speaker 2: greyhound on the phone by the name of Winston. That

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Speaker 2: was huge. If you actually look, if you want to

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Speaker 2: adopt a greyhound, then go to greyhounds as pits dot org,

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Speaker 2: dot zen or google something like that and it'll pop up.

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Speaker 2: Because by all accounts, greyhounds are absolutely fantastic pits.

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Speaker 3: And did you know the fact that the greyhounds are

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Speaker 3: the second best pit to have in an apartment, second

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Speaker 3: best dog breed?

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Speaker 2: What was the number one?

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Speaker 3: I forget what I have to listen.

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Speaker 2: Wait out, wait and find out. Yeah. And we had

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Speaker 2: a great conversation about alcohol on the back of ben

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Speaker 2: Elton and look, and then breaking news came in through

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Speaker 2: the show once again. We threw boottops and look fuller

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Speaker 2: out the window. I was gatted about that and we

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Speaker 2: want to talk about that for days. We throw out

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Speaker 2: because there was a little bit of a disagreement between

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Speaker 2: a Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters and Prime Minister Christopher

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Speaker 2: Luxon on the approach to dealing with this tariff situation.

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Speaker 1: We love you, love you big stories, the big issues,

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Speaker 4: Talk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Welcome into the show on this Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I hope you're doing well. Weave you're listening in the country.

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Speaker 3: Great day of your company, as always, Get a Mattes.

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Speaker 2: Get a Tyler, good a everyone. I hope you're having

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Speaker 2: a fantastic What day is it?

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Speaker 3: Thursday?

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I know, Thursday already, thirsty Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is another big show for you today after

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Speaker 3: three o'clock. We didn't get to this yesterday, so we

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Speaker 3: really want to dive into it today. Botox and lip

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Speaker 3: phil And the question is pretty simple.

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Speaker 2: I think why Yeah, a poor woman who's gone to

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Speaker 2: get her lips filled late at night has had a

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Speaker 2: terrible reaction, and there's been accusations that the correct medical

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Speaker 2: procedures weren't taken. But why would you rusk having your

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Speaker 2: lips field? Does it look good? Do you want it?

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Speaker 2: We wanted to talk about it yesterday. We don't and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is It's a pretty simple question,

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Speaker 3: but a big one. Why what do you get out

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Speaker 3: of it? That's after three, after two o'clock. Adopt the

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Speaker 3: greyhound events has been heund today. Winston Peters will be there,

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop will be there, star studded event. But the

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Speaker 3: big question we want to put you is would you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of greyhounds, as you know, are

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Speaker 2: becoming unemployed. They need to find homes. Are they good dog?

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Speaker 2: Would you take on a greyhound? And the wider question

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Speaker 2: from a breeder. Get you get a custom or you

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Speaker 2: just get a whatever, you get a pick and max.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, adopt or shop? Ye, that is after two o'clock

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Speaker 3: pick and mix.

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about drinking and

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Speaker 3: potentially the demonization of those who like a drink. It's

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Speaker 3: on the back of Ben Elton. He is here in

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Speaker 3: funny and very famous individual. But he's been telling interviewers

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Speaker 3: this interviewers for some time that he really loves a drink.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it for a very long time and

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, was his last book. Was a fantastic read.

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Speaker 2: But this is what he says about alcohol. I drink

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Speaker 2: far more than the government says its healthy. Well if

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Speaker 2: it if you sniff a sheery bottle, you're over the limit.

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Speaker 2: I love to drink. I'm never going to give it up.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not an alcoholic. I'm a happy, functional family

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Speaker 2: life it is. You don't hear people giving that wholehearted

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Speaker 2: people that drink but feel bad about drinking and are

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Speaker 2: and trying to do drive julye and trying to do

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Speaker 2: sober Sunday and all the different things. And isn't there

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Speaker 3: I think so? Yeah, And this over Blindeyeh, it's too much.

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Speaker 2: Here's a February one. There's a lot of people trying

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Speaker 2: just love drinking. They're heating us, the Epicureans. They seem

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Speaker 2: good job. They just don't feel bad about drinking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if drinking and feeling stressed about it is

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Speaker 3: I think you're onto something because we are. We're bombarded

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Speaker 3: is to completely give up booze. Where the equation or

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Speaker 3: the elements of drinking that you do. For a lot

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Speaker 3: of us, we get some enjoyment out of it, we can.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are some good elements of sitting down

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Speaker 3: and having a drink with friends, social occasions, whatever it

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Speaker 3: may be, that never gets taken into account. Now all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden it is a bad thing to drink

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Speaker 2: Wow, there's a lot of tech story coming through on

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Speaker 2: both sides of it. But give us a ring. Eight

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Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you agree with ben Elton?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 2: And drink away, drink and be Mary, drink up.

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Speaker 3: It is eleven past one. Let's get into it. Eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons used TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks thereb it is fourteen past one, and we're

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Speaker 3: talking about the perceived demonization of those of us who

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Speaker 3: enjoy a drink on the back of ben Elton, who's

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Speaker 3: been pretty clear that he loves to drink.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in the country at the moment. Is when

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Speaker 2: there's a start cour start will find that out.

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Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, yep, he is. He's here for a series

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Speaker 2: When I went to see him last time, he was

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Speaker 2: very funny. Yeah, absolute energizer bunny. I think he's sixty

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Speaker 2: age very very well. He doesn't like people say this menic,

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Speaker 2: but he comes across as menic but funny. Being a

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Speaker 5: I exercise every day, but I love to drink. I

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Speaker 5: love to I mean, I will never give up booze.

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Speaker 5: I adore it. And I hate the fact that governments

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Speaker 5: us off for doing the things we like. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 5: some health campaigns are fine. The cigarettes, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that was kind of fine. But now let's do it

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Speaker 5: on booze, let's do it on food. I think you

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Speaker 5: know this idea that longevity is the only worthwhile medical ambition,

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Speaker 5: that it basically medicine has won. If we can all

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Speaker 5: you know I used to. I was doing a routine

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Speaker 5: on my last tour. You know, the government was terribly

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Speaker 5: pleased and anxious for us all to know that. Apparently

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Speaker 5: it's a fact, and it is a fact that if

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Speaker 5: you drink, even in moderation, it will not two years

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Speaker 5: kind not everyone should know this because imagine it, these

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Speaker 2: They don't tell you which two years.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to live those last two years.

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Speaker 5: I watch my parents. It's not nice. I'd rather have

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Speaker 2: There, he goes, do you agree with them?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to core

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Speaker 2: Brett's how are you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I'm good, I thank you. There's a game.

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Speaker 3: Very good. Do you enjoy your drinking. Are you proud drinker?

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Speaker 7: Oh? God, yeah, yep, yep yeah. I moved to Australia

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Speaker 7: when I was seventeen and I was running a bottle

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Speaker 2: So would you say you're hopked on alcohol?

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Speaker 7: Well, I like it. I mean I don't want to

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Speaker 7: stop drinking. I'm sixty two now, yeah, and I'm a

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Speaker 7: truck driver. I get up at one o'clock every morning.

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Speaker 7: I have a few beers in the afternoon, but I

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you do other things, Brett? You know, because

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Speaker 3: it's important. Ben Elton says he does quite a bit

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Speaker 3: of exercise, even at the age of sixty five, to

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Speaker 3: make sure that he can still enjoy you drink and

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Speaker 3: that offsets whatever, you know, bad things a drink could do.

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Speaker 3: Do you do that stuff?

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Speaker 7: Not really? But in my job it's very physical because

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Speaker 7: I'm like liver foods and everything and some of those

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Speaker 7: crates and that are hippy, and boy, I need a

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Speaker 7: beer after I finish.

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Speaker 2: And when you say a beer, how many beers would

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Speaker 2: you have when you say you have a beer?

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Speaker 7: I have an average of probably five seven to fifty

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Speaker 2: Five seven fifties is the big botes every day? Right?

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Speaker 2: And what's your health like? Do you say you're sixty two?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my house's fine. I've just been on a I

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Speaker 7: need a new knee. That's about it. But that's got

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Speaker 7: nothing to do with alcohol, do you I have regular

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Speaker 7: medicals and being a tructor over and believe it or not,

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Speaker 7: I'm Keith Richards. My liver is perfect.

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Speaker 2: As Keith Richards lover and perfect. I'm not sure. But

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Speaker 2: do you lock better than Keith Richards? It's the question.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, A lot of people come how I look

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Speaker 7: like I'm fifty not sixty two?

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Speaker 2: And so how long do you think you've been drinking this?

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Speaker 2: What did you say? Five seven fifty mils of beer

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Speaker 2: a night? How long do you think you've been doing that?

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Speaker 2: For Brett, I've been.

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Speaker 7: Oh mate, I've been doing it for years and years

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Speaker 2: Have you have you got have you got kids?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I wasn't a good husband, but I

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Speaker 7: Does he mean I've been I've been married twice.

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Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with that, Brent. Does anyone ever give you.

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Speaker 7: No, No, the woman, I believe it not the woman.

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Speaker 7: Apparently apparently in the lawyers things, I was, but it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does anyone ever give you not stick? But are

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Speaker 3: they they come to you and say we're a bit

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Speaker 3: concerned that you're drinking five bottles of seven hundred and

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Speaker 2: No never, no, Oh, well, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: He agrees with ben Elton. Yeah, nothing wrong with it,

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Speaker 2: according to Brett. And because say that's a good that's

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Speaker 2: a good intake. That is a very muche five big bots.

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Speaker 3: But there's Britt said, you know, he's got a fairly

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Speaker 3: that's you know, it absolutely says more about how I

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Speaker 3: that's a lot of booze.

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Speaker 2: But three and a quarter liters of beer night, that's

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Speaker 3: That's quite a lot, but he sounded onto it, didn't

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Speaker 3: he And he's still going hard.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no judgment for me at all.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: The Great Winston Churchill had a prestigious capacity to consume

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Speaker 2: If he did, he was on the He was on

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Speaker 2: the bubbles, wasn't he? Winston Churchill like bubbles in the morning?

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Not just a wee tiple of whiskey and.

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Speaker 2: Soda really with his breakfast?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, it's some eggs and whiskey.

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Speaker 2: I've actually I'll find it. The queen had a really

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Have we demonized drinking a little bit too much?

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Speaker 2: If you go to work and you work hard, and

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Speaker 2: That's really the question I'm asking, because Ben Elton says

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Speaker 12: Breakfast Finance Minister Nikola Willison, I was watching Trump's speak

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Speaker 12: to some party, faithfully said everyone's ringing up kissing his ass.

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Speaker 12: Are we one of the people kissing?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 4: Ask?

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Speaker 13: Well, look, our diplomats in Washington has said, been speaking

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Speaker 13: Well, uncertainty is because this is a significant global economic event,

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Speaker 13: top of what's happening. Implications for New Zealand and so

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is twenty four past one.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about alcohol consumption. Ben Alton, the famed British

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Speaker 2: comedian who now lives in Australia. A fantastic writer. I've

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Speaker 2: come out and wholeheartedly endorsed drinking alcohol and says he's

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Speaker 2: still a good person. And you know he's a good partner,

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Speaker 2: good family person, and he drinks quite a lot. I said,

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Speaker 2: was talking before about the Queen's drinking routine. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: this has been texted through so I didn't even have

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Speaker 2: to look it out. I say this all the time,

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Speaker 2: better than AI. Whatever question I put out, the answer

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Speaker 3: It thinks know your stuff.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. According to former Royal staff and

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Speaker 2: meter reports, her reported daily routine before she reportedly cut

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Speaker 2: back later in life, included before lunch, a gin in dubinet.

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Speaker 2: That's a French apparative class, he said, with lemon and ice.

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Speaker 2: With lunch, a glass of wine, usually dry. After lunch,

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Speaker 2: a dry martini, which was reportedly her favorite class. In

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Speaker 2: the evening, a glass of champagne before Beard.

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Speaker 3: That four standard drinks today.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the I was going to say, what

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Speaker 2: a classy way to drink, but it was the Queen.

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Speaker 2: So if anyone's going to be classy in their drinking,

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Speaker 2: a gin and dubinet, yeah, you'd have to get it

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Speaker 2: exact right. The pressure to make a gin and dubernet

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Speaker 3: And a dry martini straight after lunch, yeah, oh well

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Speaker 3: there that's the Queen. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

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Speaker 3: and it's fair to say. I mean, ben Elton did

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Speaker 3: his whole point was talking about the wellness argument that yes,

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Speaker 3: for some people when they drink zero alcohol, that may

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Speaker 3: having the occasional drink and enjoying that.

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Speaker 2: Well occasional drink. Ben Helden's not talking about an occasional drink.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about someone that drinks a lot. Mike says,

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Speaker 2: I was like that chat earlier about the many beers

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Speaker 2: And I was the last guy you would think would

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Speaker 2: I mean there's so many people. You know, you may

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Speaker 2: you may think that your life's fantastic, you know, with

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people that love alcohol and think their lives

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Speaker 2: months off just to find out if life could be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just give it a punt. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty teen eighty is the number to call. John. How

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Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty well, thinked, Thank you very much. Yeah, I

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Speaker 9: just wanted to have a chat, you know, preface like, Yes,

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Speaker 9: I'm a big fan of fan of Ben Elton, you know,

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Speaker 9: enjoy his work. But also you know, I think we

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Speaker 9: think probably Ben a previous caller Brett functional alcoholics. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair Ben Elton, I don't think Ben

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Speaker 2: Elton considers himself and alcoholic, but yeah, Brett did say that,

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Speaker 9: John, Yeah, it was an interesting question to who are

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Speaker 2: Who's been doing that? We haven't been. We've been just

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Speaker 2: having the discussion John, and we can. We must, we

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the viy on getting

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Speaker 9: across from you is that yeah, yeah, alcohol's fine, but

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Speaker 9: it's it's really not.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think you would have been getting that.

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Speaker 2: We're just reading out what people's feedback is we and

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, So you know, hunting three and a half

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Speaker 9: liters of beer each night and then going out and

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Speaker 2: Three point wasn't it? He was that was actually three

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Speaker 2: point seven five liters of a night.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's a lot.

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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot. There's a lot of people.

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Speaker 9: And Ben Elson included and go, yeah, it does me

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Speaker 9: no harm, and it's it's you know, it's not an

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Speaker 9: and kicking, and he'd go, yeah, he hasn't done me

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Speaker 9: too much harm. You know, fast race on the lung

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Speaker 9: there's lots of people who take various sorts of drugs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to go back to britt, he never drank

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Speaker 3: Elton made, and it is about overall wellness and physical wellness.

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Speaker 3: I think we can accept that if you have the

438
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Speaker 3: amount of alcohol that been claims he has, and certainly

439
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Speaker 3: Brent has, then that's probably not good for your body.

440
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Speaker 3: But the other side of the equation he was talking

441
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Speaker 3: about was overall mental wellness, the socialization, those aspects that

442
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Speaker 3: can be good for people's mental wellbeing. Surely that plays

443
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Speaker 3: into it a little bit. When we're talking about the

444
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Speaker 3: demonization of drinking alcohol. Perhaps it has swung too far

445
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Speaker 3: in the other way when there is some benefit that

446
00:20:45,013 --> 00:20:46,613
Speaker 3: can come out of it if you're careful.

447
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Speaker 9: Well, I haven't drunk alcohol for over forty years, so

448
00:20:53,213 --> 00:20:56,653
Speaker 9: I get on fine on a social aspect, until a

449
00:20:56,733 --> 00:20:59,013
Speaker 9: couple of hours into the light and everyone had a

450
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Speaker 9: few too many and they're just not making sense. I

451
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Speaker 9: think if you're relying on alcohol as approach long term,

452
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Speaker 9: you've got some issues. I think you've got some short

453
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Speaker 9: term issues and using it as a bit of a

454
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Speaker 9: bit of release, bit of mental pain relaxation. Yeah, there's

455
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Speaker 9: an argument for that. I think if you're using it

456
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Speaker 9: all the time, you've got a question and we'll hang on.

457
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Speaker 9: Maybe we need to be addressing the roo cause rather

458
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Speaker 9: than just using alcohol.

459
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Speaker 8: As a mask.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call. John. This

461
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Speaker 2: Texas is just amount of time before the wells is

462
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Speaker 2: called in conversation about glorifying alcohol, drinking alcohol is harmful,

463
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Speaker 2: any of it. This is not okay. I am so

464
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Speaker 2: disappointed a New z b shame on you, So, I

465
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Speaker 2: mean there's no conversations we shouldn't have exactly, I mean

466
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Speaker 2: the idea that shame on you for playing the audio

467
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Speaker 2: of someone that's visited this country saying that they drink

468
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Speaker 2: quite a bit of alcohol and is still a good

469
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Speaker 2: family member and works very hard. I mean been Elson

470
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Speaker 2: has created so much content over his life. Yeah, I

471
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Speaker 2: mean he's written is it fifteen novels?

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a legal product. I don't know what

473
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Speaker 3: the survey numbers are. I'll try and find them, but

474
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Speaker 3: I could almost guarantee that the percentage of people that

475
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Speaker 3: enjoy an occasional drink in New Zealand would be very

476
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Speaker 3: high in the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys. The demonization of alcohol is stepped up significantly recently.

478
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Speaker 2: The latest wave in a woke tsunami driven by the

479
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Speaker 2: Green Party. I assume it's part of their plan to

480
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Speaker 2: broaden recreational drug use across society. There goes that's Dave's opinion.

481
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Speaker 2: But yeah, but when it comes to all these people

482
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Speaker 2: texting you shouldn't talk about it, well, I always find

483
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Speaker 2: that a really odd angle to take, that you shouldn't

484
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Speaker 2: talk about something. Why not you think you think that

485
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Speaker 2: everyone's so infantile in the country that if they hear

486
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Speaker 2: someone talking about alcohol, they'll suddenly jump up from their desk,

487
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Speaker 2: go to the bottlestore and buy a one one two

488
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Speaker 2: five of gin and come and then just give up

489
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Speaker 2: on life. Yeah, I think talking about things is as good,

490
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Speaker 2: especially on talkback right.

491
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Speaker 3: And lucky for us we got full boards. There's a

492
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Speaker 3: lot of people who want to have a chat about this.

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Speaker 3: Funnily enough one hundred and eighty two. If you can't

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Speaker 6: Why the Reserve Bank is not entering its boring era.

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Speaker 6: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean, and we're talking about the

517
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Speaker 3: consumption of alcohol on the back of Elton Ben Elton's comments.

518
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Speaker 3: He's in the country right now, he's about to start

519
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Speaker 3: his tour and of course well known comedian, racon tour writer.

520
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Speaker 3: But he said, and I quote and this is what

521
00:24:47,733 --> 00:24:50,453
Speaker 3: he said to the Herald. He said, I drink far

522
00:24:50,533 --> 00:24:53,453
Speaker 3: more than the government says is healthy. If you sniff

523
00:24:53,453 --> 00:24:56,293
Speaker 3: a sherry bottle, you're over the level according to the government.

524
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Speaker 3: I love a drink and I'm never going to give

525
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Speaker 3: it up.

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Speaker 2: The sexer says, I think ben Elton did acknowledge some

527
00:25:01,933 --> 00:25:04,493
Speaker 2: of the harm alcohol does to you, eg shortening your life.

528
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Speaker 2: He did it with humor. Basically, when he drinks, he

529
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Speaker 2: makes an informed decision, which is what every patient does

530
00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:11,733
Speaker 2: when making choices with their doctor. I don't drink, but

531
00:25:11,813 --> 00:25:14,813
Speaker 2: cheers been you get my vote. Yeah. What he's saying

532
00:25:14,893 --> 00:25:19,453
Speaker 2: is that will shorten his life. But he didn't like

533
00:25:19,493 --> 00:25:24,173
Speaker 2: the light. His point was actually logically a logic that

534
00:25:24,293 --> 00:25:27,173
Speaker 2: wasn't didn't make sense because he said, well, yeah, you don't.

535
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Speaker 2: Actually that's he goes because he didn't think that the

536
00:25:31,853 --> 00:25:34,213
Speaker 2: end of his parents' life was a great bit, so

537
00:25:34,253 --> 00:25:37,133
Speaker 2: he didn't want to experience that last two years. Yes,

538
00:25:37,133 --> 00:25:38,733
Speaker 2: but I think the thing is if you're going to

539
00:25:39,893 --> 00:25:42,532
Speaker 2: die earlier from your alcohol consumption, you're going to have

540
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Speaker 2: a long period of it not being enjoyable. If you

541
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Speaker 2: see what I mean, You're not like a cat that

542
00:25:46,333 --> 00:25:47,973
Speaker 2: just goes and goes and goes and then drops deared.

543
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no guarantee that you're going to

544
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Speaker 3: have so.

545
00:25:51,053 --> 00:25:53,613
Speaker 2: It's a slow splutter out and you can have a

546
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Speaker 2: period of terrible health. There is a fine line between

547
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Speaker 2: free choice and judgment. What about people who are awoful

548
00:26:00,373 --> 00:26:03,773
Speaker 2: with money budgeting or making terrible choices with partners which

549
00:26:03,813 --> 00:26:06,693
Speaker 2: harm burden them and their families? Easy to start making lists.

550
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Speaker 2: Me personally, I'm anti Marriaea drugs, but moderate drinking is

551
00:26:10,333 --> 00:26:15,573
Speaker 2: okay according to this text. This one says that isn't

552
00:26:15,573 --> 00:26:18,733
Speaker 2: it a known fact that there's no safe level of alcohol?

553
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Speaker 2: Cheers Eli, Yeah, I think that's where they're going now.

554
00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:24,973
Speaker 2: You know, they were saying for the longest time that

555
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Speaker 2: you know, a glass of red wine was good for you.

556
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Speaker 2: But I think they've walked back that. And you know

557
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Speaker 2: a lot of health people listen to an entire podcast

558
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Speaker 2: by Andrew Huberman that said, no, that what alcohol does

559
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Speaker 2: to you is generally bad, even just in the damage

560
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Speaker 2: it does to your sleep patterns. Yes, but just because

561
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Speaker 2: something's not good for you doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.

562
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Speaker 2: And we don't want to live lives that are completely

563
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Speaker 2: and utterly safe. That would be a terribly boring life,

564
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Speaker 2: wouldn't it. There are calculated risks that you make in

565
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Speaker 2: your life, and if you're Ben Elton, he believes that

566
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Speaker 2: drinking makes his life better. So he's going to continue

567
00:27:00,653 --> 00:27:04,933
Speaker 2: drinking quite a lot, even though he understands that there

568
00:27:04,973 --> 00:27:07,053
Speaker 2: are risks that comes with it exactly.

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Speaker 3: Janey, welcome the show, Hi, And what's your view on

570
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Speaker 3: on what being out and had to say about drinking?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think in moderation it is okay. You know,

572
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Speaker 14: if you're at the end of the day and that

573
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Speaker 14: you've been at work and you just want a cold one,

574
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Speaker 14: that's fine, you know, as long as it's limited. But

575
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Speaker 14: I think that I'm going to bring like a view

576
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Speaker 14: from the other side. I don't drink myself, but I

577
00:27:35,093 --> 00:27:39,373
Speaker 14: did watch my brother drink, even though my whole family didn't.

578
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Speaker 14: He went down that path and it was scary. It

579
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Speaker 14: was very scary.

580
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Speaker 2: So he was a he was an alcoholic.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yep, definitely. Very rarely did you see him

582
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Speaker 14: without a can of something, or it'd be boxes of

583
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Speaker 14: code's or whatever. And he was also on some pretty

584
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Speaker 14: bad drugs like higher than marijuana, shall we say, And

585
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Speaker 14: at times it was scarier with him drinking than it

586
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Speaker 14: was with him.

587
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Speaker 2: On that And how is he now.

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Speaker 14: He can't drink anymore because it affected his liver so much,

589
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Speaker 14: then that's the only reason that he can't. And I

590
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Speaker 14: think it's been a few years now, like a good

591
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Speaker 14: four years class since he's had a drink, which is good,

592
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Speaker 14: but yeah, it ruined his liver. So every time he drunk,

593
00:28:32,653 --> 00:28:36,213
Speaker 14: he'd curl over in pain. And yeah, it did not

594
00:28:36,413 --> 00:28:39,693
Speaker 14: do good things. So that personally has put me off.

595
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Speaker 14: I mean, I've never had the will to drink anyway,

596
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Speaker 14: but I can see both sides. Like my partner will

597
00:28:46,653 --> 00:28:49,293
Speaker 14: have like a bear once a week or something. That's cool,

598
00:28:49,733 --> 00:28:55,213
Speaker 14: you know, but if you're excessive, it's scary and people

599
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Speaker 14: around you.

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Speaker 2: Alcoholism as a terrible disease when you see it. It

601
00:29:01,933 --> 00:29:06,973
Speaker 2: can destroy families quite clearly. And and you know, I've

602
00:29:07,453 --> 00:29:10,213
Speaker 2: been involved in second sences were tried to help people

603
00:29:10,253 --> 00:29:14,893
Speaker 2: that alcoholics, and it's hard. It's so it's so hard

604
00:29:14,933 --> 00:29:17,493
Speaker 2: that the lies and the and the damage that you

605
00:29:17,493 --> 00:29:19,813
Speaker 2: see them doing doing to themselves. But I guess Ben

606
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Speaker 2: Elton is saying and kind of what you're saying, Jenny

607
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Speaker 2: as well, as there's that, and then there's there's there's

608
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Speaker 2: different levels of it, isn't there. I mean everyone that

609
00:29:28,573 --> 00:29:31,733
Speaker 2: drinks shouldn't be, you know, categorized in the same way

610
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Speaker 2: as as someone that had a terrible problem like your brother.

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad he's doing okay now is he okay?

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Speaker 14: Yeah? Well and the alcohol isn't Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't need to full audit of your brother.

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00:29:46,693 --> 00:29:51,733
Speaker 14: But no, no, but yeah, no, it was pretty scary.

615
00:29:51,813 --> 00:29:55,173
Speaker 14: But yeah, like you know, if you're drinking it, you know,

616
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Speaker 14: and moderation has been not a problem. I think it's

617
00:29:58,653 --> 00:30:00,733
Speaker 14: not the alcohol it's a problem, it's how you use it.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, thank you so much for you call, Jane.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate you sharing that with us.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jenny. Yeah, and that is obviously

621
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Speaker 3: for Jane's perspective, seeing her brother go through that would

622
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Speaker 3: obviously alter your view on alcohol. This Texas says, guys,

623
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Speaker 3: what is the big enjoyment with alcohol? Can anyone please explain?

624
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Speaker 3: Is it the taste? I suppose it's a personal preference,

625
00:30:23,653 --> 00:30:27,493
Speaker 3: you know, depending on who you ask when I have

626
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Speaker 3: a drink. I think it is the socialization side of things.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any alcohol during the week zero from

628
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Speaker 3: Monday to Friday, and I'm not making a considered effort

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Speaker 3: to do that. I just don't enjoy drinking during the week.

630
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Speaker 3: But on the weekend, for me, the enjoyment I get

631
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Speaker 3: out of it is sitting in the sun with friends

632
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Speaker 3: and having a good time.

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Speaker 2: You can't sit in the sun with friends and not

634
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Speaker 2: have a good time with alcohol.

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Speaker 3: You can, absolutely you can do, but I think it

636
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Speaker 3: elevates it.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing, the sitting in the sun, because

638
00:30:56,973 --> 00:31:00,613
Speaker 2: that seems to be there's a lot with alcohol. There's

639
00:31:00,613 --> 00:31:02,853
Speaker 2: a lot of things that are related to So I

640
00:31:02,933 --> 00:31:04,453
Speaker 2: just need to get home from work and I'll have

641
00:31:04,493 --> 00:31:07,373
Speaker 2: a drink to relax, you know, sitting in the sun.

642
00:31:07,413 --> 00:31:10,413
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day. I need to drink. Friends, you

643
00:31:10,453 --> 00:31:12,813
Speaker 2: need to drink, go into a show, I need to drink.

644
00:31:12,893 --> 00:31:14,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

645
00:31:15,093 --> 00:31:16,213
Speaker 2: Matches up with a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

647
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Speaker 3: call keen to hear your thoughts. It is seventeen to two.

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Speaker 1: Bag very surely, Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as

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Speaker 1: your afternoon rolls on. Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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Speaker 3: News talk ed b oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

652
00:31:35,573 --> 00:31:37,333
Speaker 3: is the number to call, and we are talking about

653
00:31:37,333 --> 00:31:39,853
Speaker 3: consumption of alcohol on the back of Ben Elton. He's

654
00:31:39,853 --> 00:31:42,813
Speaker 3: in the country for a tour as we speak, and

655
00:31:42,973 --> 00:31:45,133
Speaker 3: he mentioned to the Herald, I quote, I drink far

656
00:31:45,173 --> 00:31:47,653
Speaker 3: more than the government says is healthy. But I love

657
00:31:47,653 --> 00:31:49,013
Speaker 3: a drink and I'm never going to give it up.

658
00:31:49,173 --> 00:31:51,333
Speaker 2: The whole point of alcohol is its effect. If you're

659
00:31:51,373 --> 00:31:53,613
Speaker 2: not drinking enough to get that effect, you're wasting your money.

660
00:31:53,693 --> 00:31:56,333
Speaker 2: Drink water, it's cheaper. That's from Bob. But you can

661
00:31:56,373 --> 00:31:58,893
Speaker 2: just have a glass of wine and it perfectly can

662
00:31:58,973 --> 00:32:02,733
Speaker 2: match the I fill it you're eating or something. Nice.

663
00:32:02,853 --> 00:32:05,093
Speaker 3: Nice glass of red can elevate me absolutely.

664
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,573
Speaker 2: The thing about a nice glass of red is really good.

665
00:32:07,613 --> 00:32:10,573
Speaker 2: To follow that up with another glass, and then another

666
00:32:10,613 --> 00:32:13,773
Speaker 2: glass and then Nixon, you know you're finishing the bottle,

667
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:16,293
Speaker 2: and then do you know what you really feel like

668
00:32:16,373 --> 00:32:17,453
Speaker 2: doing after a bottle of wine?

669
00:32:17,693 --> 00:32:17,933
Speaker 4: Longer?

670
00:32:18,013 --> 00:32:22,413
Speaker 3: Up with another one, another bottle of red. Josh, how

671
00:32:22,413 --> 00:32:22,773
Speaker 3: are you?

672
00:32:23,893 --> 00:32:27,813
Speaker 11: Yeah? Hey, boys say coming to you live from Birkenhead, Auckland.

673
00:32:27,853 --> 00:32:31,173
Speaker 15: I'm about to have my second beer of the day.

674
00:32:31,893 --> 00:32:32,653
Speaker 16: So here we go.

675
00:32:32,813 --> 00:32:33,133
Speaker 3: Grats.

676
00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:36,573
Speaker 7: Oh look at that? Can you hear this?

677
00:32:39,813 --> 00:32:40,213
Speaker 17: May not?

678
00:32:40,853 --> 00:32:41,213
Speaker 7: You can hear?

679
00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:43,973
Speaker 2: That? Was that real? It sounded like a sound effect.

680
00:32:44,093 --> 00:32:47,773
Speaker 2: That was beautifully, beautifully poured.

681
00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:50,213
Speaker 7: That's a Carlsburg Elephant beer.

682
00:32:51,693 --> 00:32:54,533
Speaker 15: That one just like nice beer.

683
00:32:54,893 --> 00:32:57,573
Speaker 16: Hey, hey, look I felt bad for.

684
00:32:59,093 --> 00:33:02,133
Speaker 8: Uh mister.

685
00:33:04,573 --> 00:33:07,373
Speaker 2: Ben Elton.

686
00:33:07,653 --> 00:33:11,373
Speaker 11: Hey look here, he's right to say what he said, Like, hey, look,

687
00:33:12,013 --> 00:33:17,173
Speaker 11: there is a therapeutic value to liquor. You know, you've

688
00:33:17,173 --> 00:33:19,253
Speaker 11: got to think about what it is. What is it?

689
00:33:19,253 --> 00:33:22,973
Speaker 11: It's well, it's a well, it's actually a depressant, and

690
00:33:23,013 --> 00:33:25,693
Speaker 11: it's actually a sensitive So.

691
00:33:27,213 --> 00:33:28,053
Speaker 7: For people like me.

692
00:33:28,453 --> 00:33:32,493
Speaker 11: Whose brains are running at two miles per hour, I'll

693
00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:36,613
Speaker 11: tell you what. Having three beers and watching the Mask

694
00:33:36,733 --> 00:33:41,173
Speaker 11: all this afternoon probably the highlight of my last three days.

695
00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:46,853
Speaker 2: So you drink alcohol to slow your brain down because

696
00:33:46,853 --> 00:33:48,693
Speaker 2: you know one of the effects of it, as you

697
00:33:48,733 --> 00:33:50,533
Speaker 2: know that it's a it's a what do you call it?

698
00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:53,493
Speaker 2: The opposite of a stimulant? What's that? Some RESI.

699
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:59,133
Speaker 11: I think that actually I didn't know that. I didn't

700
00:33:59,173 --> 00:34:00,613
Speaker 11: know that, but I.

701
00:34:00,533 --> 00:34:02,453
Speaker 7: Think that's what's actually happening.

702
00:34:02,653 --> 00:34:04,893
Speaker 18: Yes, if that makes sense.

703
00:34:05,093 --> 00:34:09,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't find that that it increases your All I.

704
00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:13,372
Speaker 11: Was going to say was Mike King got crucified for saying, hey,

705
00:34:13,453 --> 00:34:16,773
Speaker 11: some people are still around because obviously, you know they

706
00:34:17,093 --> 00:34:19,453
Speaker 11: like a little bit of liquor. And I think that's

707
00:34:19,533 --> 00:34:24,373
Speaker 11: true because you know some people, well, we obviously gravitate

708
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:29,213
Speaker 11: to certain things to get the effect, the desired effect.

709
00:34:30,373 --> 00:34:34,533
Speaker 11: And that's that's fair enough. That's there is a therapeutic

710
00:34:34,933 --> 00:34:40,453
Speaker 11: use for liquor to an extent. But can I explain

711
00:34:40,493 --> 00:34:42,213
Speaker 11: it this way? Because I was thinking about this for

712
00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 11: a little while, and I was thinking personality wise, what

713
00:34:46,093 --> 00:34:51,853
Speaker 11: happens to individuals when they drink alcohol and what kind

714
00:34:51,893 --> 00:34:57,333
Speaker 11: of level of alcohol Like obviously I'm having three beers

715
00:34:57,333 --> 00:35:01,652
Speaker 11: this afternoon, I swear. I mean, I know there's seven

716
00:35:01,693 --> 00:35:06,813
Speaker 11: point two percent and there's two point eight standard drinks

717
00:35:06,853 --> 00:35:12,533
Speaker 11: per can. However that that's that's kind of like a

718
00:35:14,493 --> 00:35:20,373
Speaker 11: that's to the day kind of thing, like if I

719
00:35:20,413 --> 00:35:26,573
Speaker 11: can tell you that obviously, obviously there are individuals that

720
00:35:27,133 --> 00:35:29,973
Speaker 11: you know, I mean, even myself I was laughing.

721
00:35:29,693 --> 00:35:35,853
Speaker 18: Before when you guys are talking to another caller thinking that, yeah,

722
00:35:36,253 --> 00:35:39,973
Speaker 18: you start off like mister bean and then you move

723
00:35:39,973 --> 00:35:41,053
Speaker 18: into Robert de Niro.

724
00:35:42,813 --> 00:35:45,133
Speaker 11: But you've got to back off before you hit the

725
00:35:45,413 --> 00:35:46,613
Speaker 11: sort of Joe PESHI.

726
00:35:47,613 --> 00:35:48,853
Speaker 2: I think that's good advice.

727
00:35:49,053 --> 00:35:50,493
Speaker 3: Yeap, Yeah, smart.

728
00:35:50,293 --> 00:35:51,573
Speaker 2: Good advice, Josh.

729
00:35:51,613 --> 00:35:51,813
Speaker 4: Yeah.

730
00:35:51,973 --> 00:35:54,573
Speaker 2: At Carlsberg Elephants, it's a seven point five.

731
00:35:54,573 --> 00:35:56,093
Speaker 3: I didn't realize though, were that powerful.

732
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:58,812
Speaker 2: Now elephants powerful beers that Josh is going to enjoy

733
00:35:58,853 --> 00:35:59,333
Speaker 2: this afternoon.

734
00:35:59,373 --> 00:36:01,133
Speaker 3: Enjoy the basketball, Josh.

735
00:36:01,613 --> 00:36:01,733
Speaker 7: Right.

736
00:36:01,733 --> 00:36:02,853
Speaker 3: A couple of texts.

737
00:36:02,893 --> 00:36:05,093
Speaker 2: Just been on a cruise and everyone was drinking fun laughter, No,

738
00:36:05,213 --> 00:36:09,933
Speaker 2: Hussle's not a problem at all. Not drinking alcohol doesn't

739
00:36:09,973 --> 00:36:12,293
Speaker 2: make your life longer. It just seems longer.

740
00:36:16,293 --> 00:36:19,333
Speaker 3: Guys, I drink half to a full bottle of bourbon

741
00:36:19,413 --> 00:36:22,813
Speaker 3: every day after work, work eighty hours a week, farming

742
00:36:22,853 --> 00:36:25,053
Speaker 3: in the like, family and such, building my own house,

743
00:36:25,093 --> 00:36:28,493
Speaker 3: never miss abeat. Guys, work hard, play hard. That is

744
00:36:28,533 --> 00:36:29,213
Speaker 3: a lot of bourbon.

745
00:36:30,053 --> 00:36:32,013
Speaker 2: There you go. I used to say my drinking team

746
00:36:32,053 --> 00:36:32,933
Speaker 2: had a rugby problem.

747
00:36:34,093 --> 00:36:36,252
Speaker 3: Okay, very good.

748
00:36:36,413 --> 00:36:43,613
Speaker 2: You are both drugged out booze thinned, blood thinned booze hounds,

749
00:36:43,813 --> 00:36:44,732
Speaker 2: All right, are we Jim?

750
00:36:44,893 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 3: Ok, thank you Ji, thanks for that. Oh eight hundred,

751
00:36:49,133 --> 00:36:51,613
Speaker 3: it's the number to call. We'll get a few more calls.

752
00:36:51,613 --> 00:36:53,493
Speaker 3: In very shortly. It is nine to two.

753
00:36:53,813 --> 00:36:55,853
Speaker 2: Do you call us worthy? Talkback when you have a

754
00:36:55,893 --> 00:36:59,253
Speaker 2: bunch of drinker drinkers calling in, Get it together, guys,

755
00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:03,293
Speaker 2: I feel talking about things that happen in society worthy.

756
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:08,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we do here. It's back nine to two.

757
00:37:09,293 --> 00:37:12,853
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

758
00:37:12,853 --> 00:37:15,493
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

759
00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:17,213
Speaker 1: afternoons News talks me.

760
00:37:18,893 --> 00:37:21,293
Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is six to two. We're talking about the

761
00:37:21,293 --> 00:37:24,413
Speaker 3: consumption of alcohol. After comments from ben Elton saying he

762
00:37:24,573 --> 00:37:26,573
Speaker 3: loves a drink and he's not a shaped shame to

763
00:37:26,613 --> 00:37:27,253
Speaker 3: admit that.

764
00:37:27,373 --> 00:37:30,813
Speaker 2: Which just seemed quite sort of stuck stuck out. It's

765
00:37:30,813 --> 00:37:32,933
Speaker 2: a thing for someone to say in twenty twenty five

766
00:37:33,333 --> 00:37:35,853
Speaker 2: Fellers ben Elton is English and their drinking culture is

767
00:37:35,893 --> 00:37:38,613
Speaker 2: far more social and mature than ours. The neighborhood pub

768
00:37:38,693 --> 00:37:41,413
Speaker 2: is an important social hub for all ages there. Peter, Yeah,

769
00:37:41,413 --> 00:37:43,693
Speaker 2: I noticed that when I lived in England that i'd

770
00:37:44,533 --> 00:37:49,613
Speaker 2: in London stop off at the Boogoloo previously there's Shepherds

771
00:37:49,773 --> 00:37:51,813
Speaker 2: in Highgate nights and have a drink home on my

772
00:37:52,053 --> 00:37:53,493
Speaker 2: way home. Every night after work.

773
00:37:53,613 --> 00:37:57,893
Speaker 3: Yep, Hayden, we've got about two minutes before the news.

774
00:37:57,893 --> 00:37:59,053
Speaker 3: My friend, what's your thoughts on this?

775
00:37:59,773 --> 00:38:03,813
Speaker 19: Hello, it's me Hei tay g go mate. Yeah, and

776
00:38:03,933 --> 00:38:06,573
Speaker 19: I haven't heard of this nor the boy Ben Elton before.

777
00:38:06,653 --> 00:38:09,573
Speaker 19: But no, I think it's good that he's putting this

778
00:38:09,693 --> 00:38:12,213
Speaker 19: point across. And there's nothing wrong with a few drinks.

779
00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:15,173
Speaker 19: I drink daily and I'm gasping for it by the

780
00:38:15,213 --> 00:38:16,133
Speaker 19: time I get home.

781
00:38:16,413 --> 00:38:18,493
Speaker 3: Yep, how much would you have on a daily basis

782
00:38:18,453 --> 00:38:19,133
Speaker 3: A couple of beers?

783
00:38:19,773 --> 00:38:24,533
Speaker 19: Easier doesn't Easier doesn't right? I work in the trades.

784
00:38:24,573 --> 00:38:27,573
Speaker 19: We're in the Central North Island and most of our

785
00:38:27,653 --> 00:38:31,252
Speaker 19: crew are same. They love a good drop as well,

786
00:38:31,253 --> 00:38:33,093
Speaker 19: but we're always up and ready to go.

787
00:38:33,053 --> 00:38:34,093
Speaker 8: For work in the morning.

788
00:38:34,173 --> 00:38:37,733
Speaker 19: But you know, I like to have a few in

789
00:38:37,773 --> 00:38:40,293
Speaker 19: the evenings every evening. I mean it just that helps

790
00:38:40,333 --> 00:38:42,252
Speaker 19: me put up with her a wee bit as well

791
00:38:42,293 --> 00:38:46,093
Speaker 19: once because she's a bloody shocking drinker, so she'll knock

792
00:38:46,093 --> 00:38:48,293
Speaker 19: over a couple of bottles of wine. But I normally

793
00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:51,493
Speaker 19: have it, maybe a couple of wines or two after

794
00:38:51,573 --> 00:38:54,373
Speaker 19: I'm full of beer. But I don't bloody hurt any

795
00:38:54,453 --> 00:38:56,373
Speaker 19: won and I always make sure I'm ready to go

796
00:38:56,413 --> 00:38:57,093
Speaker 19: to work again.

797
00:38:57,613 --> 00:38:59,853
Speaker 2: Have you ever taken a break from alcohol?

798
00:39:00,653 --> 00:39:02,652
Speaker 19: Funny you should mention that, because one was going to

799
00:39:02,653 --> 00:39:05,893
Speaker 19: put me in a home quite a few years back now,

800
00:39:05,933 --> 00:39:08,533
Speaker 19: and I had a girlfriend that I extremely love, and

801
00:39:08,893 --> 00:39:10,853
Speaker 19: it was extreme love, and she was getting sick of

802
00:39:10,893 --> 00:39:13,053
Speaker 19: the boozing. So I knocked it on the head and

803
00:39:13,093 --> 00:39:16,013
Speaker 19: I went cold turkey sober for four years. Then I

804
00:39:16,093 --> 00:39:17,733
Speaker 19: tried to give it up again and I couldn't, so

805
00:39:17,813 --> 00:39:20,373
Speaker 19: they tried to give me this medicine called anti abuse,

806
00:39:20,853 --> 00:39:24,293
Speaker 19: and that put a stop to it quick smart. So yeah,

807
00:39:24,293 --> 00:39:25,853
Speaker 19: I knocked it on the head again for a while.

808
00:39:25,853 --> 00:39:28,813
Speaker 2: But how did you feel in that four years when

809
00:39:28,853 --> 00:39:30,133
Speaker 2: you went drinking.

810
00:39:30,213 --> 00:39:32,573
Speaker 19: I didn't really feel any different, to tell you the truth.

811
00:39:32,613 --> 00:39:34,133
Speaker 19: I mean, I've got a lot more done. I probably

812
00:39:34,173 --> 00:39:37,693
Speaker 19: lost a bit of weight, but I honestly didn't really

813
00:39:37,693 --> 00:39:40,853
Speaker 19: feel that much different. I dreamt about drinking. I would

814
00:39:40,933 --> 00:39:43,773
Speaker 19: dream that I'd been drinking the day before, and I

815
00:39:43,813 --> 00:39:47,853
Speaker 19: would wake up feeling what do you call it when

816
00:39:47,893 --> 00:39:51,973
Speaker 19: you think you've taken something that you haven't a placebo effect.

817
00:39:53,373 --> 00:39:55,413
Speaker 19: So I'd wake up and I think I was hangover,

818
00:39:55,453 --> 00:39:57,613
Speaker 19: and I'd think to myself, Oh shit, I wish I

819
00:39:57,613 --> 00:40:01,013
Speaker 19: didn't drink yesterday. And then then I realized, oh, hang on,

820
00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:05,093
Speaker 19: I didn't drink, but I would dream of drinking.

821
00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:07,613
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you for your call, Hayden. Yeah, I

822
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:12,692
Speaker 2: mean I would say that if you're dreaming of alcohol, yeah,

823
00:40:12,693 --> 00:40:14,493
Speaker 2: it might be, it might be deeper.

824
00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:16,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be a step too far for most

825
00:40:16,453 --> 00:40:18,533
Speaker 3: of us. Thank you very much to everyone who called

826
00:40:18,573 --> 00:40:21,293
Speaker 3: and text. After the news, we want to talk greyhounds.

827
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Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

828
00:40:26,773 --> 00:40:28,613
Speaker 1: Afternoons news Talks.

829
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Speaker 7: It be.

830
00:40:31,413 --> 00:40:34,293
Speaker 3: News Talks, it be welcome back into the program. Great

831
00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:37,853
Speaker 3: to have your company. As always, seven past two, let's

832
00:40:37,933 --> 00:40:42,573
Speaker 3: have a chat about beautiful greyhound dogs. So just finished.

833
00:40:42,613 --> 00:40:46,093
Speaker 3: Actually it was an adopt a greyhound event. It was

834
00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:51,253
Speaker 3: attended by the right Honorable Winston Peters and Chris Bishop

835
00:40:51,973 --> 00:40:53,693
Speaker 3: as well as a bunch of media. He has a

836
00:40:53,773 --> 00:40:55,652
Speaker 3: little bit about what Winston had to say.

837
00:40:55,693 --> 00:40:57,373
Speaker 20: It Well, I'm here to advocate the New Zealand media

838
00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,652
Speaker 20: do something responsible for want to change and take a

839
00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:00,333
Speaker 20: dog each and.

840
00:41:00,293 --> 00:41:01,293
Speaker 4: Look after it.

841
00:41:01,413 --> 00:41:03,373
Speaker 20: Spend more time with that dog and they might understand

842
00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:05,933
Speaker 20: more about himity it may be a ration dog, but

843
00:41:05,973 --> 00:41:09,172
Speaker 20: it's incredibly different when it's at home idle. You won't

844
00:41:09,173 --> 00:41:10,413
Speaker 20: have to do all that much work do you look

845
00:41:10,413 --> 00:41:12,772
Speaker 20: after it? And they're very, very affectionate dog.

846
00:41:13,573 --> 00:41:16,813
Speaker 3: So obviously Winston Peter's a massive fan of the greyhound.

847
00:41:16,853 --> 00:41:18,213
Speaker 3: But that's what we want to have a chat about.

848
00:41:18,253 --> 00:41:21,333
Speaker 3: So we know that there are thousands of greyhounds in

849
00:41:21,373 --> 00:41:23,613
Speaker 3: New Zealand at the moment that do need a loving

850
00:41:23,693 --> 00:41:27,013
Speaker 3: home as the industry is wound up over the next

851
00:41:27,053 --> 00:41:29,013
Speaker 3: twelve months. So we want to hear from you if

852
00:41:29,053 --> 00:41:31,413
Speaker 3: you've adopted a greyhound O eight one hundred and eighty

853
00:41:31,573 --> 00:41:33,652
Speaker 3: ten eighty and take it a bit wider than that

854
00:41:34,053 --> 00:41:37,813
Speaker 3: in terms of the discussion around adopt or shop, as

855
00:41:37,853 --> 00:41:42,253
Speaker 3: they say, if you've rescued a dog before, love to

856
00:41:42,293 --> 00:41:44,413
Speaker 3: hear from you, or if you think it's better to

857
00:41:44,493 --> 00:41:48,013
Speaker 3: go the breeder option ten to hear from you as well.

858
00:41:48,213 --> 00:41:51,252
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you it's probably morally the better thing

859
00:41:51,293 --> 00:41:54,133
Speaker 2: to do to you know, adopt a dog, but you

860
00:41:54,213 --> 00:41:56,213
Speaker 2: never know what you're going to get. I know a

861
00:41:56,413 --> 00:41:59,293
Speaker 2: particular friend of mine whose life is being ruined by

862
00:41:59,453 --> 00:42:02,013
Speaker 2: has dog. He's got no idea what it has adopted

863
00:42:02,053 --> 00:42:06,333
Speaker 2: it absolutely terrorizing their lives. I just look at it

864
00:42:06,373 --> 00:42:10,373
Speaker 2: so so hard to deal with. Whereas my beautiful little

865
00:42:10,373 --> 00:42:13,733
Speaker 2: doggie that I got knew exactly what I was getting, packed,

866
00:42:13,973 --> 00:42:16,613
Speaker 2: picked the traits that I wanted in the dog. Yeah, no,

867
00:42:16,773 --> 00:42:19,253
Speaker 2: y happiness, bit of intelligence, you know.

868
00:42:20,093 --> 00:42:24,613
Speaker 3: Little Yeah, so silent, smart, small, easy to handle.

869
00:42:24,733 --> 00:42:27,973
Speaker 2: So it is not a working dog. My dog although

870
00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:30,293
Speaker 2: there's no rats in our house and there's no cats

871
00:42:30,293 --> 00:42:34,493
Speaker 2: in our yard, but that's you know, that doesn't have

872
00:42:34,573 --> 00:42:38,413
Speaker 2: a wide problem. Greyhounds as Pets dot org dot n

873
00:42:38,653 --> 00:42:41,692
Speaker 2: z as the site to go to if you want

874
00:42:41,693 --> 00:42:46,053
Speaker 2: to adopted greyhound. As says here, when you adopt a greyhound,

875
00:42:46,053 --> 00:42:48,453
Speaker 2: you received much more than a dog. Greyhounds as Pets

876
00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:51,653
Speaker 2: is registered charity rehoming greyhounds that are no longer suitable

877
00:42:51,653 --> 00:42:54,773
Speaker 2: for racing, with over three thousand completed adoptions being a

878
00:42:54,813 --> 00:42:58,333
Speaker 2: testament to the success of our processes. Affectionate, gentle, and intelligence.

879
00:42:59,173 --> 00:43:03,252
Speaker 2: Greyhounds make great pets for most households, including those who

880
00:43:03,293 --> 00:43:07,493
Speaker 2: live in smaller homes. Right, I've said it before. I

881
00:43:07,533 --> 00:43:11,573
Speaker 2: feel I feel inferior when I see someone that takes

882
00:43:11,573 --> 00:43:15,853
Speaker 2: a greyhound to the beach at pace Yeah, they're beautiful creatures.

883
00:43:16,533 --> 00:43:21,253
Speaker 2: They are so well. Look, I know we've manipulated them humans,

884
00:43:21,573 --> 00:43:23,213
Speaker 2: but if you look them side by side and you

885
00:43:23,213 --> 00:43:26,053
Speaker 2: didn't know they're being manipulated, you would say that they

886
00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:30,013
Speaker 2: are more evolved than my little short legged little wounder.

887
00:43:30,093 --> 00:43:30,293
Speaker 7: Oh.

888
00:43:30,413 --> 00:43:32,773
Speaker 3: It is ahic of a thing to see a greyhound

889
00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:35,173
Speaker 3: go full noise and the joy in their little faces.

890
00:43:35,213 --> 00:43:36,573
Speaker 3: If you see them on the beach and they go

891
00:43:36,613 --> 00:43:39,213
Speaker 3: in hell for leather, you can just almost see them smiling.

892
00:43:39,253 --> 00:43:41,133
Speaker 3: I mean they're going too fast x you see their faces,

893
00:43:41,133 --> 00:43:43,252
Speaker 3: but they love it, and I think it is right.

894
00:43:43,293 --> 00:43:45,573
Speaker 3: If it's a pure greyhound, they love a mess of

895
00:43:45,653 --> 00:43:48,013
Speaker 3: run around and then they sleep for the rest of

896
00:43:48,053 --> 00:43:50,053
Speaker 3: the day, but love to hear from you on O

897
00:43:50,133 --> 00:43:53,413
Speaker 3: aight on hundred and eighty ten eighty this sticks from us, guys.

898
00:43:53,453 --> 00:43:55,853
Speaker 3: I breed my greyhounds with a Steffy cross for my

899
00:43:55,933 --> 00:43:58,293
Speaker 3: pig dogs because I hunt in the pine blocks and

900
00:43:58,413 --> 00:44:00,973
Speaker 3: pigs are bloody fast and a straight line, so the

901
00:44:00,973 --> 00:44:06,213
Speaker 3: greyhound helps keep up beautiful dogs. Now that's interesting because

902
00:44:06,293 --> 00:44:10,253
Speaker 3: our adopted dog, Pepper is a greyhound mixed with Staffy

903
00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:14,732
Speaker 3: and she is super fast, pretty bloody strong, but She's

904
00:44:14,773 --> 00:44:18,893
Speaker 3: also a little bit nuts because she's been a rescue.

905
00:44:18,973 --> 00:44:22,133
Speaker 3: She's just came with a few issues that has made

906
00:44:22,573 --> 00:44:25,893
Speaker 3: life a little bit extra challenging for us, and I

907
00:44:25,933 --> 00:44:28,133
Speaker 3: would never give her up. I think it's been a

908
00:44:28,173 --> 00:44:31,133
Speaker 3: wonderful thing to be able to adopt Pepper. But like

909
00:44:31,213 --> 00:44:34,053
Speaker 3: your mate, we it would be a light to say

910
00:44:34,093 --> 00:44:36,333
Speaker 3: it's been smooth sailing. Yeah, it certainly hasn't.

911
00:44:37,413 --> 00:44:43,293
Speaker 2: So should no one buy a dog until all these

912
00:44:43,293 --> 00:44:46,293
Speaker 2: greyhounds that have become employed have been adopted.

913
00:44:47,573 --> 00:44:50,533
Speaker 3: It sounds nice and theory, but I just wonder. I mean,

914
00:44:50,533 --> 00:44:53,133
Speaker 3: when it's said there that they are ideal for small homes,

915
00:44:53,173 --> 00:44:55,933
Speaker 3: I do question that if you've got a greyhound, does

916
00:44:55,973 --> 00:44:58,692
Speaker 3: that sound right to you? Ken greyhounds thrive in an

917
00:44:58,693 --> 00:45:01,253
Speaker 3: apartment or a small house. Oh eight hundred and eighty

918
00:45:01,373 --> 00:45:03,933
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is eleven

919
00:45:04,013 --> 00:45:04,533
Speaker 3: past two.

920
00:45:05,453 --> 00:45:11,453
Speaker 1: Wow your home of afternoon tour Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons.

921
00:45:11,013 --> 00:45:14,013
Speaker 2: Call oh eight hundred eighty News Talks.

922
00:45:13,853 --> 00:45:18,053
Speaker 3: V News Talks ed be good afternoon, and we're talking

923
00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:20,652
Speaker 3: about adopt or shop when it comes to dogs. This

924
00:45:20,773 --> 00:45:23,293
Speaker 3: is on the back of and Adopt a Greyhound event

925
00:45:23,333 --> 00:45:26,373
Speaker 3: that was attended by the right on honorable Winston Peters

926
00:45:26,413 --> 00:45:30,133
Speaker 3: and Chris Bishop, urging not just the media but anybody

927
00:45:30,173 --> 00:45:33,333
Speaker 3: else to adopt one of the greyhounds who need a

928
00:45:33,333 --> 00:45:35,333
Speaker 3: new home on the back of the industry being wrapped

929
00:45:35,373 --> 00:45:37,933
Speaker 3: up over the next twelve months. So oh, one hundred

930
00:45:37,933 --> 00:45:40,733
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call, paul Lane,

931
00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:43,053
Speaker 3: You had a greyhound, Is that right?

932
00:45:44,693 --> 00:45:47,533
Speaker 10: I had a share in a greyhound, a racing greyhound,

933
00:45:48,133 --> 00:45:51,533
Speaker 10: and then when he retired, I took him home as

934
00:45:51,613 --> 00:45:56,172
Speaker 10: my own pet. And I recommend people you don't need

935
00:45:56,213 --> 00:45:59,573
Speaker 10: to buy a greyhound, you just get them to adopt

936
00:45:59,573 --> 00:46:04,173
Speaker 10: them through GAT because they are then trained for a

937
00:46:04,213 --> 00:46:08,493
Speaker 10: greyhound as a pet. Yep for people at home are

938
00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:11,493
Speaker 10: the ones that either they've either been raised and they're retiring,

939
00:46:12,293 --> 00:46:15,533
Speaker 10: or they aren't suitable for racing, because some dogs just

940
00:46:15,573 --> 00:46:18,733
Speaker 10: don't want to race. Some greyhounds, you.

941
00:46:18,813 --> 00:46:21,013
Speaker 2: Say, it's I mean, obviously you know you're adopting them,

942
00:46:21,053 --> 00:46:24,773
Speaker 2: but it's not their expenses in the transaction.

943
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 10: Pauline, Well, yes, I had a half share with the owner,

944
00:46:31,093 --> 00:46:35,533
Speaker 10: so yes, it did cost me initially, but I if

945
00:46:35,573 --> 00:46:38,573
Speaker 10: I didn't buy him as a racing dog, I could

946
00:46:38,613 --> 00:46:42,373
Speaker 10: have just got him for nothing as such, if I

947
00:46:42,413 --> 00:46:43,493
Speaker 10: had adopted him.

948
00:46:43,773 --> 00:46:47,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were good when he finished racing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

949
00:46:47,733 --> 00:46:50,613
Speaker 3: I finished racing and and greyhound. He was a good pet.

950
00:46:51,013 --> 00:46:51,653
Speaker 3: No issues.

951
00:46:52,213 --> 00:46:53,013
Speaker 16: He's amazing.

952
00:46:53,173 --> 00:46:56,573
Speaker 10: He's amazing. I had I did have a few issues

953
00:46:58,453 --> 00:47:02,973
Speaker 10: now and again, but he's just a wonderful companion. Is

954
00:47:03,213 --> 00:47:09,293
Speaker 10: very loyal, He's got his own personality. He's just very

955
00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:14,093
Speaker 10: eager to please. Yeah, he's a lovely dog, a lovely

956
00:47:14,173 --> 00:47:14,772
Speaker 10: natured dog.

957
00:47:15,173 --> 00:47:18,652
Speaker 2: Really nice, Pauline, How much exercise do you have to

958
00:47:18,693 --> 00:47:22,493
Speaker 2: give a greyhound? Obviously their runners?

959
00:47:24,173 --> 00:47:27,053
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, he still loves to run, and he's going

960
00:47:27,133 --> 00:47:30,893
Speaker 10: to be five in August, and yeah, I take him

961
00:47:30,893 --> 00:47:34,733
Speaker 10: down to a dog park and he he just sprints

962
00:47:34,933 --> 00:47:39,533
Speaker 10: from you know, he just out sprints everybody out of course,

963
00:47:39,933 --> 00:47:44,893
Speaker 10: it's quite quite a bit of show. He still loves

964
00:47:45,093 --> 00:47:46,172
Speaker 10: he still loves to run.

965
00:47:47,333 --> 00:47:50,533
Speaker 2: So do you take how long every day would you

966
00:47:50,573 --> 00:47:51,333
Speaker 2: take him out for?

967
00:47:51,853 --> 00:47:54,573
Speaker 10: Well, every every day I would take him for at

968
00:47:54,653 --> 00:47:56,292
Speaker 10: least two fifteen minute walk.

969
00:47:57,973 --> 00:48:00,333
Speaker 16: But you know, once I've retired, you don't.

970
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:01,453
Speaker 7: Have to over exist.

971
00:48:01,733 --> 00:48:04,333
Speaker 10: You can over exercise the dog to feature.

972
00:48:07,173 --> 00:48:07,853
Speaker 2: Is he a feature?

973
00:48:09,013 --> 00:48:10,493
Speaker 8: No?

974
00:48:11,453 --> 00:48:13,493
Speaker 2: I always think they're fitch dogs that fetch because my

975
00:48:13,573 --> 00:48:15,813
Speaker 2: dog will not bring anything back. I mean, that's a

976
00:48:15,813 --> 00:48:19,373
Speaker 2: great lazy exercise dog. Just sit on it, sit on

977
00:48:19,413 --> 00:48:21,253
Speaker 2: a bench and throw something and they bring it back

978
00:48:21,253 --> 00:48:24,893
Speaker 2: to you. Way to exercise them, Pauline, what's your dog's name?

979
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:28,533
Speaker 8: He's called Quby Joe Joan.

980
00:48:28,693 --> 00:48:31,533
Speaker 10: He's named after my dad that passed away. My dad

981
00:48:31,613 --> 00:48:34,573
Speaker 10: was called Hubert and his middle name Joseph. So that's

982
00:48:34,613 --> 00:48:38,693
Speaker 10: really special that I could name them lovely my dad.

983
00:48:38,773 --> 00:48:41,813
Speaker 10: But he did also have a racing name and he.

984
00:48:41,973 --> 00:48:45,692
Speaker 3: Was called like Axel, not nice. And what about with

985
00:48:45,933 --> 00:48:48,933
Speaker 3: small dogs, Pauline, do you have to be careful around

986
00:48:48,973 --> 00:48:50,293
Speaker 3: small white dogs when you take it?

987
00:48:50,813 --> 00:48:53,493
Speaker 10: He's no, he's very good with other small dogs. He

988
00:48:53,533 --> 00:48:56,133
Speaker 10: really loves them. He wasn't at the start, but he's

989
00:48:56,173 --> 00:48:58,773
Speaker 10: got used to all dogs and he has been to

990
00:48:58,853 --> 00:49:03,853
Speaker 10: a boarding kennels. And then the next time I went

991
00:49:03,893 --> 00:49:05,813
Speaker 10: down to a dog park, he went round.

992
00:49:06,013 --> 00:49:06,853
Speaker 15: There was five.

993
00:49:06,693 --> 00:49:09,693
Speaker 10: Different dogs around them, the dog and he went around

994
00:49:09,693 --> 00:49:11,652
Speaker 10: and and suggestd them each.

995
00:49:12,293 --> 00:49:15,652
Speaker 3: What a gentleman does he get? Genuine question though? Does

996
00:49:15,653 --> 00:49:17,253
Speaker 3: that get trained out of them? Because you hear that

997
00:49:17,333 --> 00:49:19,533
Speaker 3: a lot that you've got to be careful around cats

998
00:49:19,693 --> 00:49:22,613
Speaker 3: and small fluffy white things because that's what they've been

999
00:49:22,613 --> 00:49:24,973
Speaker 3: trained to chase and take down all their lives.

1000
00:49:25,053 --> 00:49:29,453
Speaker 10: Is that true, Well, yeah, exactly, I'd never trust them.

1001
00:49:29,493 --> 00:49:32,133
Speaker 10: I have got a cat though, and he's very fluffy

1002
00:49:32,213 --> 00:49:35,013
Speaker 10: and they can be together for short times, but.

1003
00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:36,693
Speaker 15: I do.

1004
00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:39,973
Speaker 10: When I first got him, every cat we saw down

1005
00:49:40,373 --> 00:49:42,893
Speaker 10: the street, and with every cat seem to come out

1006
00:49:42,933 --> 00:49:47,373
Speaker 10: to greet him, he would he would try and go

1007
00:49:47,453 --> 00:49:51,093
Speaker 10: for them, but I just would say, well, no, no, Hube,

1008
00:49:51,093 --> 00:49:53,893
Speaker 10: it's just a cat. And I keep saying, look, it's

1009
00:49:53,973 --> 00:49:55,653
Speaker 10: just a cat, no big deal.

1010
00:49:56,133 --> 00:49:58,773
Speaker 15: And so I do you know he did.

1011
00:49:59,173 --> 00:50:00,613
Speaker 10: He's very intelligent.

1012
00:50:00,853 --> 00:50:01,293
Speaker 7: Dogs.

1013
00:50:02,133 --> 00:50:05,613
Speaker 10: Well all dogs are intelligent, but you can they do

1014
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:10,573
Speaker 10: understand an awful lot of instructions. So it's just a

1015
00:50:10,613 --> 00:50:14,253
Speaker 10: matter of constantly doing the same saying the same thing

1016
00:50:14,333 --> 00:50:17,413
Speaker 10: over again, or pulling them up and saying and stopping

1017
00:50:17,453 --> 00:50:20,013
Speaker 10: them like I can get them to get to a

1018
00:50:20,053 --> 00:50:23,093
Speaker 10: corner and say wait, and then I can say walk

1019
00:50:23,133 --> 00:50:24,293
Speaker 10: on and he'll walk on.

1020
00:50:25,253 --> 00:50:26,173
Speaker 15: So they're not silly.

1021
00:50:27,013 --> 00:50:29,453
Speaker 2: Is is Huby Joe there right now?

1022
00:50:31,373 --> 00:50:32,093
Speaker 10: No, it's not.

1023
00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:32,453
Speaker 4: No.

1024
00:50:34,053 --> 00:50:36,212
Speaker 2: Keep you put Hube Joe on the phone. If hub

1025
00:50:36,613 --> 00:50:37,413
Speaker 2: the next.

1026
00:50:37,173 --> 00:50:41,333
Speaker 10: Time h yeah, yeah, yeah, but no that that looks

1027
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:45,813
Speaker 10: They're a wonderful dog. But I would suggest that if

1028
00:50:45,853 --> 00:50:49,812
Speaker 10: people want a greyhound because the use the industry, which

1029
00:50:49,973 --> 00:50:53,093
Speaker 10: you know, I'm still on the sense whether it should

1030
00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:56,333
Speaker 10: go or not because greyhound's yes, they do love to run.

1031
00:50:56,413 --> 00:51:01,732
Speaker 10: My greyhound still runs and he loves it. But yeah,

1032
00:51:01,773 --> 00:51:05,493
Speaker 10: I think it's quite sad. I think the expectation of

1033
00:51:05,533 --> 00:51:11,333
Speaker 10: twelve months now of the spreed going is totally wrong

1034
00:51:11,413 --> 00:51:16,933
Speaker 10: because yeah, they just sprang it, I think on people.

1035
00:51:17,093 --> 00:51:20,493
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, it was always talked about, but then

1036
00:51:20,533 --> 00:51:22,453
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, you know they're going to act

1037
00:51:22,613 --> 00:51:24,172
Speaker 10: it where I don't think that's fear.

1038
00:51:24,453 --> 00:51:26,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, well thanks so much for you call Pauline and

1039
00:51:27,653 --> 00:51:28,733
Speaker 2: Hube Joe sounds.

1040
00:51:28,533 --> 00:51:30,493
Speaker 3: Like a good boy, what a good boy.

1041
00:51:30,973 --> 00:51:33,692
Speaker 2: Hey, they are retired, not rescued, and people adopt should

1042
00:51:33,733 --> 00:51:36,133
Speaker 2: be aware that there will be no more. The banning

1043
00:51:36,173 --> 00:51:38,453
Speaker 2: of racing will be the end of this beautiful breed

1044
00:51:38,453 --> 00:51:41,732
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Really said Greyhound lover that that is said.

1045
00:51:41,853 --> 00:51:45,053
Speaker 2: But yeah, we were saying that these we weren't saying

1046
00:51:45,053 --> 00:51:47,253
Speaker 2: that they were rescues. We were saying as two topics.

1047
00:51:47,293 --> 00:51:51,973
Speaker 2: We're talking about whether you would alike to adopt a greyhound,

1048
00:51:52,533 --> 00:51:56,653
Speaker 2: the retired greyhounds, but also the wider idea of rescue

1049
00:51:56,773 --> 00:52:00,333
Speaker 2: jobs dogs over buying a dog from a breeder.

1050
00:52:00,413 --> 00:52:02,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh eight hundred and eighty or a pet store.

1051
00:52:03,373 --> 00:52:04,853
Speaker 3: So they still do that. Yeah, I suppose they do

1052
00:52:04,893 --> 00:52:08,013
Speaker 3: with dogs, do they? Well? I don't know if you've

1053
00:52:08,013 --> 00:52:09,973
Speaker 3: bought a dog from a pitzaw recently. Love to hear

1054
00:52:09,973 --> 00:52:11,813
Speaker 3: from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1055
00:52:11,893 --> 00:52:14,093
Speaker 3: number to call. We've got full boards, so we'll play

1056
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:16,292
Speaker 3: some messages and come back with more of your phone

1057
00:52:16,293 --> 00:52:17,173
Speaker 3: calls very shortly.

1058
00:52:21,693 --> 00:52:25,093
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1059
00:52:25,133 --> 00:52:27,333
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth tog ZV.

1060
00:52:27,453 --> 00:52:30,053
Speaker 3: Afternoon twenty three past two. We're talking about adopting a

1061
00:52:30,173 --> 00:52:33,732
Speaker 3: greyhound and also the wider philosophy of whether it's better

1062
00:52:33,773 --> 00:52:35,933
Speaker 3: to adopt or shop when it comes to dogs. This

1063
00:52:36,013 --> 00:52:38,772
Speaker 3: Teapsu says, Okay, guys, many people don't know enough about

1064
00:52:38,773 --> 00:52:41,252
Speaker 3: greyhounds to want one. I'm on my second and I'd

1065
00:52:41,253 --> 00:52:44,413
Speaker 3: recommend one to anyone wanting the dog. Each has its

1066
00:52:44,413 --> 00:52:46,613
Speaker 3: own personality, but they sleep fro up to eighteen hours

1067
00:52:46,653 --> 00:52:49,253
Speaker 3: a day and providing they have a bed and are warm,

1068
00:52:49,293 --> 00:52:51,613
Speaker 3: not outside, then they'll be happy left alone, short bursts

1069
00:52:51,613 --> 00:52:55,413
Speaker 3: of energy then sleep. Prime example your program with Mark

1070
00:52:55,453 --> 00:52:57,093
Speaker 3: the Dog Trainer the other day. No one calls with

1071
00:52:57,173 --> 00:53:01,373
Speaker 3: an issue about the greyhounds. People always stop me and say, oh,

1072
00:53:01,573 --> 00:53:05,093
Speaker 3: a greyhound, no one says, or a Stephi or labrador

1073
00:53:05,173 --> 00:53:06,093
Speaker 3: or toy dog from GeV.

1074
00:53:06,693 --> 00:53:09,453
Speaker 2: The six is malvioln is full of skew greyhounds. Most

1075
00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:13,533
Speaker 2: were personalized pjs. The gentle giants like to be walked,

1076
00:53:14,013 --> 00:53:16,813
Speaker 2: love to chill out a lot, great for apartment living.

1077
00:53:16,973 --> 00:53:17,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.

1078
00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:19,613
Speaker 2: Guess you wear the pj's because they've got they've got

1079
00:53:19,773 --> 00:53:22,772
Speaker 2: very little body fat, so opposite of you, Tyler. They're

1080
00:53:22,893 --> 00:53:26,813
Speaker 2: lean machines, they're fast, they're agile.

1081
00:53:27,173 --> 00:53:32,253
Speaker 3: Thoroughbred. No, no, sp I used to be thorough It's

1082
00:53:32,293 --> 00:53:35,893
Speaker 3: hard to get back to that. Kristen, how are you?

1083
00:53:35,973 --> 00:53:36,133
Speaker 7: Hell?

1084
00:53:36,613 --> 00:53:36,733
Speaker 10: Hi?

1085
00:53:36,853 --> 00:53:39,252
Speaker 3: Good now, great to chat to you because you've got

1086
00:53:39,253 --> 00:53:42,893
Speaker 3: an event tonight. I believe that is promoting the adoptions

1087
00:53:42,933 --> 00:53:44,093
Speaker 3: of greyhounds.

1088
00:53:44,653 --> 00:53:47,653
Speaker 21: Yeah, so there's there's twos. It is one in Sunnings

1089
00:53:47,733 --> 00:53:51,733
Speaker 21: and Parmertan North and one in Bunnings in Hamilton and

1090
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:56,133
Speaker 21: will be there with some greyhounds for adoption, So a

1091
00:53:56,173 --> 00:53:58,093
Speaker 21: good way to go and meet them and see what

1092
00:53:58,133 --> 00:53:59,173
Speaker 21: you think of them.

1093
00:53:59,733 --> 00:54:01,973
Speaker 2: What's the process like? So if someone comes up and

1094
00:54:01,973 --> 00:54:05,053
Speaker 2: meets a greyhound and likes it, can they take one

1095
00:54:05,053 --> 00:54:05,893
Speaker 2: of them away.

1096
00:54:06,173 --> 00:54:09,613
Speaker 21: Or not on the spot. They need to apply online

1097
00:54:09,773 --> 00:54:13,693
Speaker 21: and get all these details down, but it's pretty straightforward,

1098
00:54:13,693 --> 00:54:15,853
Speaker 21: pretty easy from there.

1099
00:54:17,493 --> 00:54:17,853
Speaker 22: Yeah.

1100
00:54:17,933 --> 00:54:20,652
Speaker 21: Yeah, And they'll also try and match the greyhound to

1101
00:54:20,773 --> 00:54:24,013
Speaker 21: you as well, so your life style if you do

1102
00:54:24,093 --> 00:54:26,653
Speaker 21: have cats, obviously it's a bit harder to find, but

1103
00:54:26,853 --> 00:54:30,373
Speaker 21: some are okay with cats.

1104
00:54:28,333 --> 00:54:32,653
Speaker 2: So how do you test that whether a greyhound is

1105
00:54:32,653 --> 00:54:34,013
Speaker 2: going to be okay with cats or not.

1106
00:54:35,213 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 21: I'm not the trainer, so I don't know exactly, but

1107
00:54:37,453 --> 00:54:40,253
Speaker 21: just lots of Yeah, they know what they're doing. So

1108
00:54:40,333 --> 00:54:44,293
Speaker 21: I'm just fostering for them at the moment, but very

1109
00:54:44,373 --> 00:54:48,213
Speaker 21: up fostered lots of like rescue, you know, mixed breeds

1110
00:54:48,213 --> 00:54:51,013
Speaker 21: and stuff, but this the greyhounds by far being the

1111
00:54:51,053 --> 00:54:52,413
Speaker 21: easiest of to foster.

1112
00:54:52,693 --> 00:54:56,093
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting because a lot of people would a

1113
00:54:56,093 --> 00:54:58,453
Speaker 2: lot of people would think, you know, and I would

1114
00:54:58,533 --> 00:55:00,773
Speaker 2: think that that'd be a dog that would need a

1115
00:55:00,773 --> 00:55:02,853
Speaker 2: lot of exercise and a big yard.

1116
00:55:03,293 --> 00:55:06,093
Speaker 21: But Is that not the not at all A good

1117
00:55:06,493 --> 00:55:09,212
Speaker 21: a good walk around the block and he is out

1118
00:55:09,413 --> 00:55:11,333
Speaker 21: lying down.

1119
00:55:12,493 --> 00:55:14,813
Speaker 2: Is that because they're sprinters not marathon runners.

1120
00:55:15,493 --> 00:55:20,453
Speaker 21: Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, they they can sprint, but very

1121
00:55:20,533 --> 00:55:25,693
Speaker 21: short period and then they're absolutely done, especially after expert,

1122
00:55:25,733 --> 00:55:27,893
Speaker 21: they're done for at least a couple of days.

1123
00:55:28,373 --> 00:55:33,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, Kristin, you obviously love greyhounds. Is there any downsides?

1124
00:55:35,173 --> 00:55:38,733
Speaker 21: It's just being weary obviously because they have been racing

1125
00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:43,293
Speaker 21: so off lead and things like that is a bit harder.

1126
00:55:44,213 --> 00:55:47,533
Speaker 21: They recalls especially, Yeah, when you first adopt them, it's

1127
00:55:47,533 --> 00:55:51,093
Speaker 21: pretty non existent. So it's just doing that work for them.

1128
00:55:51,293 --> 00:55:53,173
Speaker 21: But again, as long as they're on a lead or

1129
00:55:53,173 --> 00:55:55,813
Speaker 21: a long leads, they're pretty easy.

1130
00:55:56,053 --> 00:55:56,973
Speaker 2: Can they get away from you?

1131
00:55:58,053 --> 00:55:58,292
Speaker 22: Yeah?

1132
00:55:58,733 --> 00:56:01,413
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just going to say. My little dog's

1133
00:56:01,453 --> 00:56:03,893
Speaker 2: got stumpy little legs. And I was out walking on

1134
00:56:03,933 --> 00:56:06,373
Speaker 2: a board walk and he stopped, and I kept walking

1135
00:56:06,413 --> 00:56:08,453
Speaker 2: and didn't look back for a while, and then I

1136
00:56:08,453 --> 00:56:09,933
Speaker 2: look back and I saw him, and he was confused,

1137
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:11,853
Speaker 2: couldn't see me, and then he ran off from the

1138
00:56:11,853 --> 00:56:14,293
Speaker 2: other direction because he was confused where I was. And

1139
00:56:14,613 --> 00:56:17,133
Speaker 2: he's tiny with stumpy legs, but he was so far

1140
00:56:17,213 --> 00:56:19,533
Speaker 2: away from me so quickly to run after him. So

1141
00:56:19,733 --> 00:56:23,253
Speaker 2: imagine with a greyhound, if they start going away from you,

1142
00:56:23,253 --> 00:56:25,413
Speaker 2: you're not catching it, then they would get a long way

1143
00:56:25,413 --> 00:56:27,253
Speaker 2: from you if.

1144
00:56:27,053 --> 00:56:30,252
Speaker 21: They saw something to chase. I don't think they would

1145
00:56:30,293 --> 00:56:32,813
Speaker 21: run up just because, but if something caught their iron,

1146
00:56:32,853 --> 00:56:37,813
Speaker 21: they wanted to chase it's and you couldn't important to

1147
00:56:37,893 --> 00:56:40,413
Speaker 21: keep them on lead. I was just going to say,

1148
00:56:40,413 --> 00:56:42,573
Speaker 21: it's kind of the best of both worlds because you're

1149
00:56:42,733 --> 00:56:46,253
Speaker 21: adopting but you're also adopting a pedigree dog, so you

1150
00:56:46,413 --> 00:56:47,413
Speaker 21: kind of got the best.

1151
00:56:47,173 --> 00:56:47,613
Speaker 8: Of both of them.

1152
00:56:47,773 --> 00:56:49,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so there's no one, no one, There are

1153
00:56:49,973 --> 00:56:52,733
Speaker 2: no one. Quantity is really what you're saying. You know,

1154
00:56:52,533 --> 00:56:53,933
Speaker 2: you know all their trails.

1155
00:56:54,573 --> 00:56:57,013
Speaker 21: They breath well, because if they want a healthy dog

1156
00:56:57,093 --> 00:57:00,053
Speaker 21: to race, you know healthy dog is going to race better.

1157
00:57:00,813 --> 00:57:03,373
Speaker 3: So yeah, most people get to the point where they

1158
00:57:03,413 --> 00:57:06,733
Speaker 3: can take them off off lead and hopefully you know,

1159
00:57:06,853 --> 00:57:08,692
Speaker 3: even if they see a rabbit, they will be able

1160
00:57:08,733 --> 00:57:11,573
Speaker 3: to control them, like you need.

1161
00:57:11,613 --> 00:57:15,613
Speaker 21: Think it depends on the dog. I think some of

1162
00:57:15,653 --> 00:57:18,853
Speaker 21: the ones that's for adoption that have failed racing grossel

1163
00:57:19,013 --> 00:57:21,733
Speaker 21: so they might be a bit deeper. But I think

1164
00:57:21,733 --> 00:57:24,133
Speaker 21: it depends on the dog and the work that you've

1165
00:57:24,133 --> 00:57:24,773
Speaker 21: done with them.

1166
00:57:24,973 --> 00:57:27,333
Speaker 3: Yeah. Great to chat with you, so just give us

1167
00:57:27,373 --> 00:57:29,013
Speaker 3: the details again for the event.

1168
00:57:29,813 --> 00:57:33,213
Speaker 21: Yes, it's Bunnings Hamilton's South and then Bunning's and Palmerston

1169
00:57:33,293 --> 00:57:34,733
Speaker 21: North both have a bas on tonight.

1170
00:57:34,853 --> 00:57:37,053
Speaker 3: And how many doggies are you going to have down there?

1171
00:57:37,693 --> 00:57:39,493
Speaker 21: Oh I'm not too sure how many will be there.

1172
00:57:39,533 --> 00:57:41,893
Speaker 21: I know mine who's up for adoptions will definitely be

1173
00:57:41,933 --> 00:57:45,213
Speaker 21: in Hamilton. Yeah, but the OBCO meet and.

1174
00:57:45,573 --> 00:57:48,613
Speaker 3: Pat and what's their name? The one you're fostering, Louis

1175
00:57:48,653 --> 00:57:49,973
Speaker 3: Louis louis.

1176
00:57:49,853 --> 00:57:51,733
Speaker 2: Slowly with you? Is llowly with you right now?

1177
00:57:52,533 --> 00:57:53,133
Speaker 21: No, he's not.

1178
00:57:53,973 --> 00:57:56,573
Speaker 2: We want to get one likely sleeping we're really keen

1179
00:57:56,573 --> 00:57:58,293
Speaker 2: to talk to We're really keen to talk to it

1180
00:57:58,333 --> 00:57:58,973
Speaker 2: to a greyhound.

1181
00:57:59,493 --> 00:58:01,653
Speaker 3: We'll get one, Chris the Lovely to chat with you.

1182
00:58:01,693 --> 00:58:05,053
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Oh went hundred eighty ten eighty.

1183
00:58:05,093 --> 00:58:07,133
Speaker 3: If you've got a greyhound standing by a man, it's

1184
00:58:07,173 --> 00:58:09,613
Speaker 3: really keen to chat with one. Yeah, so is that

1185
00:58:09,733 --> 00:58:10,293
Speaker 3: too much less?

1186
00:58:10,333 --> 00:58:13,333
Speaker 2: It's all very well hearing you know secondhand information about

1187
00:58:13,333 --> 00:58:15,373
Speaker 2: what it's what greyhounds are like. I'd love to put

1188
00:58:15,373 --> 00:58:18,333
Speaker 2: some questions really hard questions to a greyhound. Yeah, it's

1189
00:58:18,373 --> 00:58:21,373
Speaker 2: really it's a real gotcha kind of questions, like, for example,

1190
00:58:21,733 --> 00:58:22,973
Speaker 2: are all greyhounds gray?

1191
00:58:24,413 --> 00:58:27,253
Speaker 3: I'd love only the big questions here. It is twenty

1192
00:58:27,493 --> 00:58:30,253
Speaker 3: nine past two headlines worth railing governor.

1193
00:58:32,893 --> 00:58:33,413
Speaker 2: US talks.

1194
00:58:33,453 --> 00:58:37,093
Speaker 6: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1195
00:58:37,133 --> 00:58:39,973
Speaker 6: with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister plans to talk

1196
00:58:40,013 --> 00:58:43,213
Speaker 6: to world leaders today on ways to salvage the rules

1197
00:58:43,253 --> 00:58:47,413
Speaker 6: based trade system as Donald Trump's tariff roller coaster continues.

1198
00:58:47,893 --> 00:58:50,773
Speaker 6: Over eight tariff's on China will hiked to one hundred

1199
00:58:50,773 --> 00:58:54,053
Speaker 6: and twenty five percent, but other countries on high figures

1200
00:58:54,093 --> 00:58:58,133
Speaker 6: drop to a blanket ten percent for ninety days. The

1201
00:58:58,213 --> 00:59:01,493
Speaker 6: unpopular Treaty Principal's Bill will have its last showing in

1202
00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:05,453
Speaker 6: Parliament today, with all parties except ACT lined up to

1203
00:59:05,533 --> 00:59:08,373
Speaker 6: vote it down. A year and a half since the

1204
00:59:08,493 --> 00:59:11,773
Speaker 6: violent death of lower Hut's baby, Rue police say it's

1205
00:59:11,813 --> 00:59:16,293
Speaker 6: still being actively investigated, but with no arrests. They say

1206
00:59:16,333 --> 00:59:21,293
Speaker 6: the child's mother into flatmates know what happened. FARMACS expanded

1207
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1208
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1209
00:59:28,613 --> 00:59:29,173
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1210
00:59:29,213 --> 00:59:31,413
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1211
00:59:31,453 --> 00:59:34,453
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1212
00:59:34,493 --> 00:59:38,333
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1213
00:59:38,373 --> 00:59:42,613
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1214
00:59:42,733 --> 00:59:46,133
Speaker 6: at Inziend Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1215
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about greyhound's

1216
00:59:48,853 --> 00:59:52,533
Speaker 3: adoption and event how today are attended by Winston Peters

1217
00:59:52,573 --> 00:59:54,133
Speaker 3: and Chris Bishop Guys.

1218
00:59:54,133 --> 00:59:56,653
Speaker 2: I feelings, but sorry for you. No dogs want to

1219
00:59:56,653 --> 00:59:58,293
Speaker 2: talk to you. Tell you what I do? A pretty

1220
00:59:58,293 --> 01:00:00,893
Speaker 2: good Scooby Do impression? Shall I give you a call

1221
01:00:00,933 --> 01:00:03,453
Speaker 2: and pretend on a dog? We'd love that, Ian, Actually.

1222
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:05,133
Speaker 3: We're not going to say no to that good offer?

1223
01:00:05,173 --> 01:00:05,373
Speaker 15: Was there?

1224
01:00:05,493 --> 01:00:09,733
Speaker 2: The good Scooby Doing impression is key to anyone's repertoire.

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01:00:09,853 --> 01:00:13,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have one, all right, Ian, Oh, one

1226
01:00:13,413 --> 01:00:16,413
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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01:00:16,453 --> 01:00:17,053
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1228
01:00:17,093 --> 01:00:17,653
Speaker 3: That was pretty good.

1229
01:00:17,693 --> 01:00:23,493
Speaker 2: Actually all right, Catherine, welcome the show. You have two greyhounds,

1230
01:00:23,773 --> 01:00:24,373
Speaker 2: Yes I do.

1231
01:00:24,773 --> 01:00:27,653
Speaker 17: I've got one that I've had for three years, and

1232
01:00:27,733 --> 01:00:32,733
Speaker 17: then I fostered Classy who had a major hock injury

1233
01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:37,133
Speaker 17: and twenty five thousand dollars worth of surgery on his leg.

1234
01:00:37,373 --> 01:00:40,333
Speaker 17: And he was a foster and I ended up keeping them.

1235
01:00:40,573 --> 01:00:42,933
Speaker 2: You did you have to pay the twenty five thousand.

1236
01:00:42,573 --> 01:00:46,093
Speaker 17: Dollars ket then no, the racing in the story pape,

1237
01:00:46,293 --> 01:00:47,493
Speaker 17: the racing board pay for that.

1238
01:00:47,653 --> 01:00:48,813
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah yeah.

1239
01:00:50,013 --> 01:00:54,493
Speaker 17: And just with the cats and small dogs at get

1240
01:00:54,493 --> 01:00:58,573
Speaker 17: and Levin, they put them through their paces with the

1241
01:00:59,173 --> 01:01:02,373
Speaker 17: jack Russell that just nutt is a fruitcake and they

1242
01:01:02,413 --> 01:01:05,213
Speaker 17: put muddles on them and put them in with the

1243
01:01:05,293 --> 01:01:09,013
Speaker 17: jack Russell to see if they're okay with small dogs.

1244
01:01:09,333 --> 01:01:10,453
Speaker 2: It's a bold jack Russell.

1245
01:01:10,533 --> 01:01:16,093
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, got a job for the jack Russell. We

1246
01:01:16,173 --> 01:01:16,733
Speaker 3: must love it.

1247
01:01:17,773 --> 01:01:21,293
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, he's the reason that jack russeller. Yeah yeah,

1248
01:01:20,693 --> 01:01:22,573
Speaker 17: yeah yeah.

1249
01:01:22,653 --> 01:01:24,973
Speaker 2: And and so if they do, if they do try

1250
01:01:25,013 --> 01:01:27,853
Speaker 2: and more the jack Russell, they treat it like the

1251
01:01:28,213 --> 01:01:30,453
Speaker 2: racing rabbit. Do they can you train? Can they be

1252
01:01:30,493 --> 01:01:32,573
Speaker 2: trained away from doing that? Or is is that just

1253
01:01:32,613 --> 01:01:34,373
Speaker 2: done for them? They're they're going to be a they're

1254
01:01:34,413 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 2: going to be a cat killer.

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01:01:36,453 --> 01:01:39,573
Speaker 17: Well no, when they put them in with muzzles on

1256
01:01:39,733 --> 01:01:48,333
Speaker 17: all the time, some great because or if the cats,

1257
01:01:49,493 --> 01:01:53,693
Speaker 17: but on the whole they're they're pretty guys like rural.

1258
01:01:53,853 --> 01:01:55,733
Speaker 17: So they've got rabbits the lord and now they just

1259
01:01:55,733 --> 01:01:56,853
Speaker 17: don't even bother with them.

1260
01:01:57,413 --> 01:01:58,133
Speaker 3: Really, that's good.

1261
01:01:58,133 --> 01:01:58,693
Speaker 2: Where do you live?

1262
01:01:58,773 --> 01:01:58,813
Speaker 10: So?

1263
01:02:00,693 --> 01:02:07,333
Speaker 2: Hor okay? So so if you look like in central

1264
01:02:07,453 --> 01:02:11,733
Speaker 2: Icago and you had a lot of problems with with bunnies,

1265
01:02:12,293 --> 01:02:14,613
Speaker 2: would greyhounds just go around and destroy all your rabbits

1266
01:02:14,653 --> 01:02:14,853
Speaker 2: for you?

1267
01:02:15,933 --> 01:02:16,213
Speaker 20: Oh?

1268
01:02:16,253 --> 01:02:20,213
Speaker 17: Well they have one or two one one flushes something out.

1269
01:02:20,133 --> 01:02:22,773
Speaker 3: And taste of do you need at least too for

1270
01:02:22,813 --> 01:02:23,293
Speaker 3: the operation?

1271
01:02:23,813 --> 01:02:27,813
Speaker 17: Yeah, most easiest dogs to train. I've had very to

1272
01:02:27,853 --> 01:02:30,733
Speaker 17: all your pointers. Tell them at like I've trained and

1273
01:02:30,973 --> 01:02:34,653
Speaker 17: they were really hard work. These guys are just both

1274
01:02:35,213 --> 01:02:42,053
Speaker 17: on another night of a needle called needle Nose and

1275
01:02:42,493 --> 01:02:43,333
Speaker 17: Peppery Coast.

1276
01:02:43,933 --> 01:02:45,373
Speaker 21: Now I'm puppy because I'm.

1277
01:02:45,253 --> 01:02:50,613
Speaker 17: Wanting the dogs. They we've both homestays for them. So

1278
01:02:50,693 --> 01:02:53,773
Speaker 17: the owners go over Casar on holiday and they stay

1279
01:02:53,853 --> 01:02:56,973
Speaker 17: get to stay in a in a home home home

1280
01:02:57,613 --> 01:03:01,173
Speaker 17: and yeah, so that's out really really well, that's needle Nose.

1281
01:03:01,413 --> 01:03:04,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, good Catherine, thank you for your call. Is that

1282
01:03:04,653 --> 01:03:07,133
Speaker 2: the you know, mixed and metosis didn't work down with

1283
01:03:07,213 --> 01:03:11,053
Speaker 2: the rabbit problem in Central Otago and in the lower

1284
01:03:11,133 --> 01:03:13,853
Speaker 2: South Island. Yeah, maybe we should just release all three

1285
01:03:13,893 --> 01:03:17,493
Speaker 2: thousand greyhounds that are being retired into into that area.

1286
01:03:17,573 --> 01:03:22,053
Speaker 2: I love it, just absolutely destroy Yeah the greyhound again

1287
01:03:22,133 --> 01:03:24,013
Speaker 2: and yeah, so we'll just find the ones that didn't

1288
01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:26,733
Speaker 2: attempt to kill the jack rustle, Yeah, and ship them

1289
01:03:26,813 --> 01:03:30,813
Speaker 2: off to be a fosst into families in central Attiger.

1290
01:03:31,093 --> 01:03:32,253
Speaker 2: Is there a problem with my idea?

1291
01:03:33,333 --> 01:03:33,613
Speaker 7: Eighty?

1292
01:03:33,693 --> 01:03:37,533
Speaker 3: I don't see any plaus It is twenty three to three.

1293
01:03:37,573 --> 01:03:39,693
Speaker 3: We're back with more of your calls. Very surely.

1294
01:03:41,093 --> 01:03:43,773
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty

1295
01:03:43,773 --> 01:03:48,173
Speaker 1: ten eighty Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks'd.

1296
01:03:47,733 --> 01:03:50,733
Speaker 20: Be it may be a rating dog, but it's incredibly

1297
01:03:50,773 --> 01:03:53,253
Speaker 20: different when it's at home, very idle. You want have

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01:03:53,293 --> 01:03:54,853
Speaker 20: to do all that much work? Do you look after it?

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01:03:55,213 --> 01:03:56,853
Speaker 20: And they're very very affectionate dog.

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01:03:57,933 --> 01:03:58,133
Speaker 7: You go.

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01:03:58,253 --> 01:04:01,373
Speaker 3: Winston Peters loves them and he is keen for you

1302
01:04:01,613 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 3: and many other people in New Zealand to adopt the greyhound.

1303
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:07,253
Speaker 3: He was at an event this afternoon. We know that

1304
01:04:07,293 --> 01:04:09,613
Speaker 3: there are thousands of great that need a loving home

1305
01:04:09,773 --> 01:04:12,093
Speaker 3: as the industry is wound down over the next twelve months.

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01:04:12,133 --> 01:04:14,493
Speaker 3: So can you hear from you if you've adopted a greyhounds?

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01:04:14,613 --> 01:04:17,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, and greyhounds is Pitts dot org dot in zis

1308
01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:21,333
Speaker 2: the place to go. Yep, if you want to look

1309
01:04:21,373 --> 01:04:24,733
Speaker 2: into adopting a greyhound or down to Bunnings in Hamilton

1310
01:04:25,733 --> 01:04:28,213
Speaker 2: at five o'clock today there's going to be some greyhounds

1311
01:04:28,213 --> 01:04:28,933
Speaker 2: out Which Bunnings?

1312
01:04:28,973 --> 01:04:29,173
Speaker 7: Was it?

1313
01:04:30,413 --> 01:04:30,853
Speaker 3: Good question?

1314
01:04:30,933 --> 01:04:33,373
Speaker 2: Well we'll look that up again. We'll announce that the

1315
01:04:33,413 --> 01:04:35,813
Speaker 2: two Bunnings that that there's two Bunnings in the country

1316
01:04:35,813 --> 01:04:38,053
Speaker 2: with greathounds are going to be there today with great

1317
01:04:38,053 --> 01:04:40,733
Speaker 2: caller on the on the subject before.

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01:04:40,493 --> 01:04:44,013
Speaker 3: You can go to greyhound as a greyhounds as Pitts

1319
01:04:44,053 --> 01:04:46,893
Speaker 3: dot co dot org dot in zi. Rather and I've

1320
01:04:46,933 --> 01:04:48,773
Speaker 3: got some details there about the events that the holding

1321
01:04:48,773 --> 01:04:50,693
Speaker 3: around the country.

1322
01:04:50,813 --> 01:04:55,573
Speaker 2: This textas says that my idea don't free see I

1323
01:04:55,573 --> 01:04:56,813
Speaker 2: had an idea or to do what to do with

1324
01:04:56,853 --> 01:04:59,413
Speaker 2: all the greyhounds is to unleash them on the rabbit

1325
01:04:59,453 --> 01:05:03,053
Speaker 2: population of central Otago. Don't free the greyhounds and Otago,

1326
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:05,773
Speaker 2: you idiots is in they might go after the Kiwi

1327
01:05:05,773 --> 01:05:07,053
Speaker 2: birds and other BirdLife.

1328
01:05:07,093 --> 01:05:08,053
Speaker 3: You mup it right?

1329
01:05:08,493 --> 01:05:10,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I mean that is quite a flaw in

1330
01:05:10,613 --> 01:05:13,413
Speaker 2: the plan. We love a kiwis well, I don't know anything.

1331
01:05:13,493 --> 01:05:16,373
Speaker 2: Going by my mate's farm that I was staying at recently.

1332
01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:20,053
Speaker 2: There are so many bunnies, yeah, there are. Oh my,

1333
01:05:20,493 --> 01:05:23,773
Speaker 2: it is crazy. It is absolutely insane.

1334
01:05:23,893 --> 01:05:26,013
Speaker 3: So you know you don't have to look fa do

1335
01:05:26,213 --> 01:05:28,613
Speaker 3: you just look out the window and they are everywhere.

1336
01:05:29,013 --> 01:05:30,613
Speaker 2: So I think the greyhounds that are interested in the

1337
01:05:30,653 --> 01:05:34,613
Speaker 2: bunnies would have there have plenty to do down there. Alex,

1338
01:05:34,693 --> 01:05:35,653
Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

1339
01:05:37,133 --> 01:05:39,373
Speaker 15: Oh good o. Fellas has a game very good?

1340
01:05:39,373 --> 01:05:41,253
Speaker 3: How are you? You've got a couple of greyhounds.

1341
01:05:41,693 --> 01:05:44,853
Speaker 15: I've got to cut the greyhounds. So I'm going to

1342
01:05:44,933 --> 01:05:50,653
Speaker 15: try and fulfill one of your wishes. Matte As. You've

1343
01:05:50,653 --> 01:05:52,453
Speaker 15: been doing talk back for a little bit now, you'll

1344
01:05:52,453 --> 01:05:55,413
Speaker 15: probably be quite used to these opinions. So first off,

1345
01:05:55,493 --> 01:06:00,133
Speaker 15: I'm going to try Twiggy twe twigs right, it's a

1346
01:06:00,213 --> 01:06:02,413
Speaker 15: sea less celebrity on the phone.

1347
01:06:03,213 --> 01:06:04,253
Speaker 2: That's a compliment.

1348
01:06:05,733 --> 01:06:09,013
Speaker 15: We'll try the other one. Winston when's got his poor

1349
01:06:09,053 --> 01:06:14,573
Speaker 15: in the air, Good boy, Winston, the grow.

1350
01:06:16,133 --> 01:06:19,013
Speaker 2: Your news dogs be Winston, Winston, come on.

1351
01:06:18,973 --> 01:06:30,573
Speaker 15: Winston, come on something. So what they do is instead

1352
01:06:30,573 --> 01:06:33,533
Speaker 15: of purring they sort of do us funny mickey thing.

1353
01:06:36,173 --> 01:06:38,533
Speaker 15: They made us so when they when you when you

1354
01:06:38,573 --> 01:06:43,733
Speaker 15: pet them, instead of like a cat or greyhounds, stick

1355
01:06:43,813 --> 01:06:46,133
Speaker 15: their tongues out a little bit and so they sort

1356
01:06:46,133 --> 01:06:53,773
Speaker 15: of sound like he was. Yeah, you probably couldn't pick

1357
01:06:53,813 --> 01:06:59,733
Speaker 15: it up on the phone. Yes, So you've got his uh,

1358
01:06:59,973 --> 01:07:01,413
Speaker 15: the stamp of his approval.

1359
01:07:01,813 --> 01:07:03,933
Speaker 2: That's good. It's actually Winston's the corner of the day

1360
01:07:03,973 --> 01:07:06,333
Speaker 2: so far. Yeah, I appreciate with the little tongue out.

1361
01:07:07,653 --> 01:07:07,853
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1362
01:07:07,893 --> 01:07:08,053
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1363
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:10,013
Speaker 15: And he's still put this poor in the air just

1364
01:07:10,053 --> 01:07:12,173
Speaker 15: to say like you have you got anything else for fun?

1365
01:07:12,333 --> 01:07:12,493
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1366
01:07:12,533 --> 01:07:15,053
Speaker 3: Got anything else, man, But you've got.

1367
01:07:14,973 --> 01:07:17,253
Speaker 15: A POWs as good as you're ever going to get.

1368
01:07:17,413 --> 01:07:20,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. So for those listening at home, we got a poor, Yeah,

1369
01:07:20,333 --> 01:07:22,013
Speaker 2: we got a poor from what job done?

1370
01:07:22,173 --> 01:07:24,573
Speaker 3: And what Winston is he named after? Is it Peters

1371
01:07:24,813 --> 01:07:25,253
Speaker 3: or Chu Chu?

1372
01:07:27,453 --> 01:07:31,333
Speaker 15: No, it's he's named after the narrature of Georgia or

1373
01:07:31,333 --> 01:07:32,693
Speaker 15: Wells nineteen eighty four.

1374
01:07:33,093 --> 01:07:36,813
Speaker 3: Oh wow, very nice. Well, and do I need to

1375
01:07:36,853 --> 01:07:39,693
Speaker 3: ask about Twiggy. Twiggy is just you know, thoroughbreed. He's thin,

1376
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:40,453
Speaker 3: then he's fast.

1377
01:07:41,493 --> 01:07:46,093
Speaker 15: Well she's a she. Oh okay, So Twiggy was they

1378
01:07:46,173 --> 01:07:49,813
Speaker 15: get arranges when you adopted him. So yeah, yeah, there

1379
01:07:49,853 --> 01:07:53,653
Speaker 15: you go. So she came as Ziggy and I just

1380
01:07:53,733 --> 01:07:59,693
Speaker 15: thought twiggy after the sixties, Supermodel was more appropriate, and

1381
01:08:00,093 --> 01:08:04,613
Speaker 15: Winston was called Flash or something stupid. Yeah, Winston and

1382
01:08:04,653 --> 01:08:07,293
Speaker 15: also Winston was very popular name in the seventies and

1383
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:12,213
Speaker 15: eighties in London, especially amongst the West West Indian community.

1384
01:08:12,373 --> 01:08:13,853
Speaker 15: So wins done.

1385
01:08:14,893 --> 01:08:17,572
Speaker 2: It's a great name. But kind of ironic that your

1386
01:08:17,613 --> 01:08:20,893
Speaker 2: greyhounds called Winston and then Winston Peters came in and

1387
01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:22,652
Speaker 2: banned greyhound racing.

1388
01:08:23,053 --> 01:08:31,572
Speaker 15: Sort of first question, what's its name? But I've got

1389
01:08:31,612 --> 01:08:34,692
Speaker 15: one top tip for those who they are perfect. They're

1390
01:08:34,732 --> 01:08:37,093
Speaker 15: all good that you'll be surprised. They are small, they

1391
01:08:37,133 --> 01:08:41,333
Speaker 15: can curl up. Everyone everythinks that these guys get two

1392
01:08:41,412 --> 01:08:43,852
Speaker 15: half hour walks, one in the morning, one in the evening.

1393
01:08:44,372 --> 01:08:48,372
Speaker 15: They like going out at dusk and dawn. They get cold,

1394
01:08:48,372 --> 01:08:50,452
Speaker 15: so that's why you often see them. They've got very

1395
01:08:50,492 --> 01:08:54,293
Speaker 15: stin skin. But there's two things i'llswering. One is their teeth.

1396
01:08:55,452 --> 01:08:58,732
Speaker 15: You have to clean them daily, really because they are

1397
01:08:59,093 --> 01:09:01,412
Speaker 15: yet they're well, you don't have to, but it really

1398
01:09:01,452 --> 01:09:03,612
Speaker 15: helped because if you know all the vet bills like,

1399
01:09:04,492 --> 01:09:06,972
Speaker 15: so they are susceptible to bad teeth. So you put

1400
01:09:06,973 --> 01:09:09,612
Speaker 15: these little things on your finger and you just you've

1401
01:09:09,612 --> 01:09:11,412
Speaker 15: obviously got to they love them.

1402
01:09:11,412 --> 01:09:14,893
Speaker 2: It's so easy.

1403
01:09:15,772 --> 01:09:18,812
Speaker 15: No no, no, no, no no, no, I use I

1404
01:09:18,893 --> 01:09:25,012
Speaker 15: use a wife. She's not listening. She's a teacher, especially

1405
01:09:25,213 --> 01:09:27,932
Speaker 15: well she shouldn't be. But when I got Winston first,

1406
01:09:27,933 --> 01:09:31,492
Speaker 15: he was the first one who's actually raised. We had

1407
01:09:31,933 --> 01:09:33,892
Speaker 15: we was getting on a bit then, but a black Clad.

1408
01:09:34,452 --> 01:09:36,973
Speaker 15: So when you first get them, they have like you know,

1409
01:09:36,973 --> 01:09:39,572
Speaker 15: they sleep in crates at night. They're very well looked after,

1410
01:09:39,692 --> 01:09:44,253
Speaker 15: but they're not They have no idea. So he followed

1411
01:09:44,372 --> 01:09:47,372
Speaker 15: Reggie the black Clad to learn how to be a dog,

1412
01:09:48,133 --> 01:09:51,093
Speaker 15: and I think that really helped him as in as

1413
01:09:51,133 --> 01:09:53,652
Speaker 15: in a pet. And then when we got the second one,

1414
01:09:53,652 --> 01:09:57,652
Speaker 15: obviously Winston had that experience of you know, using the

1415
01:09:57,692 --> 01:10:01,692
Speaker 15: house as he does. And so that's really good because

1416
01:10:01,692 --> 01:10:04,372
Speaker 15: when you first get them, they haven't got a clue.

1417
01:10:04,612 --> 01:10:06,732
Speaker 15: They still chase cats, which is good because if you

1418
01:10:06,812 --> 01:10:09,173
Speaker 15: come on to my property, you get you get so

1419
01:10:09,812 --> 01:10:12,333
Speaker 15: but they very rarely catch anything. They're so fast, they

1420
01:10:12,372 --> 01:10:15,812
Speaker 15: go for about twenty seconds, and it's like, I can't

1421
01:10:15,812 --> 01:10:20,973
Speaker 15: be bothered so so that they are wonderful and I

1422
01:10:21,013 --> 01:10:24,972
Speaker 15: would encourage people if you can. And I think it's

1423
01:10:24,973 --> 01:10:28,253
Speaker 15: important because that as we had border Collie as well.

1424
01:10:28,293 --> 01:10:33,933
Speaker 15: They were probab purebreads, all from you know, breeders. But

1425
01:10:34,572 --> 01:10:36,572
Speaker 15: I used to love going to the dogs when I

1426
01:10:36,853 --> 01:10:40,812
Speaker 15: was lived back in London, and it was an issue

1427
01:10:41,173 --> 01:10:44,653
Speaker 15: twenty odd years ago back then as well about rescue greyhounds.

1428
01:10:44,692 --> 01:10:49,772
Speaker 15: So when to pank Pass, we said, right, we'll have

1429
01:10:49,812 --> 01:10:52,572
Speaker 15: a rescue you and I said, oh, greyhounds, And then

1430
01:10:52,612 --> 01:10:55,412
Speaker 15: of course said that my wife she went away and

1431
01:10:55,412 --> 01:10:58,452
Speaker 15: did her research and before you know it, I was

1432
01:10:58,492 --> 01:11:00,812
Speaker 15: down in Reston on a very wet day picking up

1433
01:11:00,812 --> 01:11:01,652
Speaker 15: a bloody greyhound.

1434
01:11:02,612 --> 01:11:05,012
Speaker 2: There you go, thank you so much for your call, Winston.

1435
01:11:05,133 --> 01:11:06,692
Speaker 3: And there you go. You're happy you got a poor

1436
01:11:06,893 --> 01:11:08,532
Speaker 3: and you got the way you tongue out per.

1437
01:11:08,692 --> 01:11:10,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that. With that, that's more than I could

1438
01:11:10,652 --> 01:11:14,053
Speaker 2: have asked for all of the day. Winston a good boy,

1439
01:11:14,412 --> 01:11:18,333
Speaker 2: good boy, Winston is Winston. But be careful, Tyler, I

1440
01:11:18,333 --> 01:11:20,412
Speaker 2: don't want you're miss gendering any any dogs.

1441
01:11:20,492 --> 01:11:23,012
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, how Daremie? I mean Twiggy sounded you didn't

1442
01:11:23,053 --> 01:11:25,333
Speaker 3: get much from Twiggy, but Twegy sounded like a great

1443
01:11:25,372 --> 01:11:26,173
Speaker 3: greyhound as well.

1444
01:11:26,772 --> 01:11:30,333
Speaker 2: Dawn, welcome to the show. So you are from Greyhounds

1445
01:11:30,412 --> 01:11:34,452
Speaker 2: is Pitts dot org dot m Zankkyota.

1446
01:11:34,612 --> 01:11:39,213
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's correct. I am the events and volunteer coordinator.

1447
01:11:38,772 --> 01:11:42,053
Speaker 2: With gap SO events. So just so we get this right,

1448
01:11:42,053 --> 01:11:44,692
Speaker 2: there's a couple events on today around the country, isn't

1449
01:11:44,692 --> 01:11:47,293
Speaker 2: there There's one in Hamilton and one elsewhere where people

1450
01:11:47,333 --> 01:11:48,692
Speaker 2: can go and meet dogs. Is that correct?

1451
01:11:49,372 --> 01:11:51,572
Speaker 21: Yes, that that is correct, Thank you so much.

1452
01:11:51,652 --> 01:11:52,213
Speaker 10: Yeah, we are.

1453
01:11:52,612 --> 01:11:58,372
Speaker 21: We've been having a wonderful collaboration with Bunnings where several

1454
01:11:58,412 --> 01:12:01,692
Speaker 21: of the Bunnings warehouse stores across the nation have been

1455
01:12:01,732 --> 01:12:04,852
Speaker 21: inviting us to bring greyhounds to a variety of their

1456
01:12:04,933 --> 01:12:09,572
Speaker 21: events and tonight is their Easter Family Night. They've got

1457
01:12:09,612 --> 01:12:11,412
Speaker 21: a lot of cool things going and one of those

1458
01:12:11,452 --> 01:12:14,452
Speaker 21: things is the opportunity for families to come and meet

1459
01:12:14,492 --> 01:12:18,492
Speaker 21: greyhounds and chat to our volunteers about you know, what

1460
01:12:18,532 --> 01:12:21,893
Speaker 21: it's like to adopt a greyhound or foster a greyhound,

1461
01:12:22,612 --> 01:12:24,892
Speaker 21: and it's a really great way for people to meet

1462
01:12:24,933 --> 01:12:27,852
Speaker 21: them because a lot of times people have never seen

1463
01:12:27,893 --> 01:12:29,172
Speaker 21: a greyhound in the flesh.

1464
01:12:29,333 --> 01:12:33,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, up close. Now, how hard is it? What's the

1465
01:12:33,692 --> 01:12:36,532
Speaker 2: process once you decide you know, you've meet a greyhound

1466
01:12:36,572 --> 01:12:39,173
Speaker 2: and you go, look, I want to adopt one. What's

1467
01:12:39,213 --> 01:12:40,173
Speaker 2: the processed after that?

1468
01:12:40,293 --> 01:12:45,293
Speaker 21: Dawn, Well, we really try to keep our process simple

1469
01:12:45,652 --> 01:12:48,173
Speaker 21: for the humans and the sense of, you know, not

1470
01:12:48,293 --> 01:12:52,572
Speaker 21: making it this crazy journey, but at the same time

1471
01:12:52,612 --> 01:12:55,452
Speaker 21: making sure that the doggo is going to be loved

1472
01:12:55,492 --> 01:12:57,732
Speaker 21: and taken care of and that it's really ending up

1473
01:12:57,853 --> 01:13:01,412
Speaker 21: in a good home for it. And what we do

1474
01:13:01,532 --> 01:13:05,772
Speaker 21: is we have a rehoming team. They endeavor to match

1475
01:13:05,853 --> 01:13:08,852
Speaker 21: the greyhounds as much as they possibly can to the

1476
01:13:08,893 --> 01:13:12,452
Speaker 21: applicant that's come forward. So we're going to ask questions

1477
01:13:13,253 --> 01:13:15,492
Speaker 21: like what's your lifestyle like do you tend to like

1478
01:13:15,532 --> 01:13:17,772
Speaker 21: to hang out at home a lot? Or do you

1479
01:13:17,853 --> 01:13:20,172
Speaker 21: want a dogg o that can go to a cafe

1480
01:13:20,213 --> 01:13:22,732
Speaker 21: with you and be happy at a cafe or happy

1481
01:13:22,973 --> 01:13:25,732
Speaker 21: you know, walking through a market or are you really

1482
01:13:25,772 --> 01:13:28,972
Speaker 21: outdoorsy so you'd like to adopt a more active greyhound

1483
01:13:29,013 --> 01:13:30,652
Speaker 21: who's going to be happy to you know, tramp to

1484
01:13:30,692 --> 01:13:34,333
Speaker 21: the hanulas with you. So we get an idea of

1485
01:13:34,333 --> 01:13:36,372
Speaker 21: what's your lifestyle like do you have kids? Do not

1486
01:13:36,492 --> 01:13:39,093
Speaker 21: have kids. Are you a little bit older and we

1487
01:13:39,133 --> 01:13:40,812
Speaker 21: want to make sure we're not giving you a houndie

1488
01:13:40,812 --> 01:13:43,133
Speaker 21: that's going to you know, jump around a lot and

1489
01:13:43,173 --> 01:13:46,612
Speaker 21: pull you over. Or do you have a two year

1490
01:13:46,652 --> 01:13:48,093
Speaker 21: old and we're going to make sure that we've got

1491
01:13:48,093 --> 01:13:50,932
Speaker 21: to really calm, you know, because they're big, they're big dogs. Yeah,

1492
01:13:51,532 --> 01:13:53,933
Speaker 21: you know, we want to make sure that you're you know,

1493
01:13:53,973 --> 01:13:55,412
Speaker 21: we're not. No one's getting knocked over.

1494
01:13:55,532 --> 01:13:57,812
Speaker 2: So there must be that must be quite a process

1495
01:13:57,853 --> 01:14:01,013
Speaker 2: to find the traits of each dog. Aut do you

1496
01:14:01,213 --> 01:14:03,412
Speaker 2: you have have a system where you go, well, this

1497
01:14:03,532 --> 01:14:05,372
Speaker 2: dog's this cone of dog, the good lights, that's that's

1498
01:14:05,452 --> 01:14:07,093
Speaker 2: that's that's, that's, that's and then and then you keep

1499
01:14:07,093 --> 01:14:08,052
Speaker 2: records on each one.

1500
01:14:08,853 --> 01:14:10,812
Speaker 21: Yeah. So that's why I always say, like as best

1501
01:14:10,853 --> 01:14:13,652
Speaker 21: we can, because you know, it is a it's a

1502
01:14:13,652 --> 01:14:16,412
Speaker 21: lot to figure out about a dog in what can

1503
01:14:16,492 --> 01:14:18,492
Speaker 21: be a rather short amount of time.

1504
01:14:18,652 --> 01:14:18,852
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1505
01:14:19,532 --> 01:14:21,772
Speaker 21: So the process, I'll try to walk you through it

1506
01:14:21,893 --> 01:14:24,972
Speaker 21: quicker so I don't lose anybody's attention. But process basically

1507
01:14:25,133 --> 01:14:28,652
Speaker 21: is is if the greyhound finishes racing or they determine

1508
01:14:28,652 --> 01:14:31,133
Speaker 21: that it's not going to race, it goes into what's

1509
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Speaker 21: called the great mates program. That program is run by

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Speaker 21: Greyhound Racing New Zealand. They dissect the dog, they vaccinate

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01:14:39,093 --> 01:14:44,452
Speaker 21: the dog o, they do different temperament testings and they

1512
01:14:44,532 --> 01:14:47,253
Speaker 21: kind of figure out, you know, there's like a light system.

1513
01:14:47,492 --> 01:14:49,452
Speaker 21: Or is that it is a green dog. That usually

1514
01:14:49,452 --> 01:14:53,052
Speaker 21: means that it's pretty bulletproof, going to happily and easily rehome.

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01:14:53,492 --> 01:14:55,492
Speaker 21: Is it an amber dog That might mean there's a

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01:14:55,492 --> 01:14:58,173
Speaker 21: little bit of some behavior stuff. You know, maybe it's anxious,

1517
01:14:58,333 --> 01:15:01,612
Speaker 21: maybe it doesn't like small fluffies things like that, maybe

1518
01:15:01,612 --> 01:15:05,133
Speaker 21: it's not good for kids, and you know, and then

1519
01:15:05,452 --> 01:15:06,933
Speaker 21: is it a red dog and that means that it

1520
01:15:06,973 --> 01:15:08,772
Speaker 21: needs to go It doesn't come to us case, it

1521
01:15:08,812 --> 01:15:11,972
Speaker 21: usually goes to another organization that kind of helps work

1522
01:15:12,013 --> 01:15:14,812
Speaker 21: with those dogos. So we're looking at greens and ambers,

1523
01:15:15,452 --> 01:15:17,692
Speaker 21: and that's kind of when they're there. They also cat

1524
01:15:17,732 --> 01:15:19,612
Speaker 21: test them when they're at the kennel's try to get

1525
01:15:19,612 --> 01:15:21,053
Speaker 21: an idea of this dog is going to live with

1526
01:15:21,093 --> 01:15:22,572
Speaker 21: a cat or if it's going to eat the cat.

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01:15:23,213 --> 01:15:26,532
Speaker 21: So I'd say about one in ten greyhounds is what

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01:15:26,532 --> 01:15:31,253
Speaker 21: we would call a cat trainable and then they come

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01:15:31,293 --> 01:15:34,812
Speaker 21: to us. In our ideal world, we get every single

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01:15:34,853 --> 01:15:38,173
Speaker 21: greyhound into foster homes, because in foster homes that's where

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01:15:38,173 --> 01:15:41,892
Speaker 21: we really learn about the dogs. That's not always possible,

1532
01:15:42,013 --> 01:15:45,293
Speaker 21: so sometimes we are just kind of coming with what

1533
01:15:45,293 --> 01:15:49,093
Speaker 21: we've learned about them from the kennels. So yeah, that's

1534
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:50,892
Speaker 21: kind of where we get the information and start trying

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01:15:50,893 --> 01:15:53,092
Speaker 21: to figure out who they're going to live with best.

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01:15:53,412 --> 01:15:55,692
Speaker 3: Is there some things that you need to see from

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01:15:55,692 --> 01:15:58,092
Speaker 3: potential owners. Do they need a little bit of space

1538
01:15:58,333 --> 01:16:01,253
Speaker 3: or can they potentially go depending on the greyhound and

1539
01:16:01,333 --> 01:16:03,412
Speaker 3: the dog involved, go to an apartment.

1540
01:16:04,412 --> 01:16:06,532
Speaker 21: Yeah, so I live in a sixty two square meter

1541
01:16:06,612 --> 01:16:11,172
Speaker 21: apartment with two greyhounds. Wow, they are rated the second

1542
01:16:11,213 --> 01:16:15,892
Speaker 21: best apartment dog out of all dog breeds. And yeah,

1543
01:16:16,093 --> 01:16:17,452
Speaker 21: and this is because.

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01:16:17,213 --> 01:16:21,493
Speaker 2: What's numbers the one it's the Great Dane.

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01:16:23,532 --> 01:16:23,692
Speaker 7: Dog.

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01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:27,932
Speaker 2: The big dogs is a door that the greyhounds snuggle

1547
01:16:27,933 --> 01:16:30,732
Speaker 2: out real small though, because these skinny exactly the.

1548
01:16:30,692 --> 01:16:34,213
Speaker 21: Dog, Yes they do. And that's the thing. These big

1549
01:16:34,253 --> 01:16:37,732
Speaker 21: dogs are usually quite low energy, whereas you know, people think, oh,

1550
01:16:37,812 --> 01:16:40,372
Speaker 21: small apartment, I need a little dog, but little dogs

1551
01:16:40,853 --> 01:16:44,093
Speaker 21: are quite high energy, and they've also been bred to protect,

1552
01:16:44,372 --> 01:16:46,093
Speaker 21: so they're going to bark, bark, bark, bark, bark.

1553
01:16:46,412 --> 01:16:47,333
Speaker 11: But these big.

1554
01:16:47,133 --> 01:16:50,492
Speaker 21: Dogs, you know, greyhounds, they're not going to anything, but

1555
01:16:50,532 --> 01:16:53,092
Speaker 21: they don't bark. You know, well, okay, there's the odd

1556
01:16:53,133 --> 01:16:56,133
Speaker 21: greyhound who barks, but for the most part, they're not barkers,

1557
01:16:56,933 --> 01:16:58,652
Speaker 21: and so that's part of the reason they're so great

1558
01:16:58,652 --> 01:17:02,213
Speaker 21: in apartments. They're not going to annoy your neighbors. And

1559
01:17:02,372 --> 01:17:04,412
Speaker 21: they curl like you said, the little doughnut dogs, they

1560
01:17:04,452 --> 01:17:08,093
Speaker 21: curl up small. Also, generally, if you give them up

1561
01:17:09,013 --> 01:17:10,932
Speaker 21: or a place that they can sleep, that's where they're

1562
01:17:10,933 --> 01:17:12,652
Speaker 21: going to be. They're like, I'm going to lay here.

1563
01:17:13,492 --> 01:17:17,132
Speaker 21: The only time my apartment feels slightly small is when Henry,

1564
01:17:17,173 --> 01:17:19,293
Speaker 21: my boy greyhound, sees me pull the lead out. He

1565
01:17:19,293 --> 01:17:22,412
Speaker 21: gets really excited and he usually like pounces onto his

1566
01:17:22,532 --> 01:17:25,213
Speaker 21: giant cuddle pillar and starts prancing around the living room

1567
01:17:25,213 --> 01:17:28,293
Speaker 21: with it, making a little bit of chaos. But other

1568
01:17:28,333 --> 01:17:30,333
Speaker 21: than that, I don't really notice that I live with

1569
01:17:30,412 --> 01:17:33,452
Speaker 21: these gentle giants in a fairly small space.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Dawnside Greyhounds as pets dot org

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01:17:36,692 --> 01:17:40,213
Speaker 2: dot z as the best port of call to move forward.

1572
01:17:40,253 --> 01:17:42,973
Speaker 2: If people are interested in adopting a greyhound.

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01:17:43,372 --> 01:17:43,932
Speaker 7: That's us.

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01:17:43,973 --> 01:17:45,532
Speaker 21: We've got a big button at the top of our

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01:17:45,572 --> 01:17:47,772
Speaker 21: main page that says adopt. That'll take you to the

1576
01:17:47,853 --> 01:17:51,412
Speaker 21: application for adopting and fostering. Also, we've got to meet

1577
01:17:51,452 --> 01:17:54,692
Speaker 21: the team page. It gives you every single phone number

1578
01:17:54,692 --> 01:17:57,372
Speaker 21: and email for every member of our team. We want

1579
01:17:57,372 --> 01:17:59,532
Speaker 21: to hear from you. We're really passionate to get these

1580
01:17:59,532 --> 01:18:00,932
Speaker 21: guys into lovely homes.

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Speaker 10: Dawn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic to chat with you. One hundred and eighteen

1583
01:18:05,492 --> 01:18:07,492
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. We've got some messages

1584
01:18:07,532 --> 01:18:09,133
Speaker 3: to play big for e sh Surely you're listening to

1585
01:18:09,133 --> 01:18:10,253
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler.

1586
01:18:09,973 --> 01:18:13,573
Speaker 2: And up next, I'll tell you why greyhounds are called greyhounds.

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01:18:13,572 --> 01:18:14,652
Speaker 3: It's going to be good, so.

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01:18:16,812 --> 01:18:19,253
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1589
01:18:19,293 --> 01:18:22,812
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News

1590
01:18:22,853 --> 01:18:25,932
Speaker 1: Talks EDB, News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Right, you teach people about the origin of the word greyhounds.

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01:18:28,973 --> 01:18:32,093
Speaker 2: It's very disappointing. It comes from the Old English word

1593
01:18:32,093 --> 01:18:37,092
Speaker 2: gray meaning dog, and hound meaning hunting dog. So greyhound

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01:18:37,133 --> 01:18:41,652
Speaker 2: is actually basically dog hunting dog. There you go, because

1595
01:18:41,652 --> 01:18:43,253
Speaker 2: they're not all gray, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Don't say you don't learn anything on this show. Thank

1597
01:18:46,133 --> 01:18:49,092
Speaker 3: you very much. That was a great discussion. News, sport

1598
01:18:49,213 --> 01:18:52,253
Speaker 3: and weather is coming up. Great to have your company

1599
01:18:52,333 --> 01:18:55,172
Speaker 3: as always, will see you after news.

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Speaker 1: Your new homes are instateful and entertaining. Talk It's Matt

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01:19:03,973 --> 01:19:08,093
Speaker 1: Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons on News Talk SAIBB.

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01:19:08,893 --> 01:19:11,812
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you, Welcome back into the program. Seven

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01:19:11,853 --> 01:19:12,412
Speaker 3: past three.

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01:19:12,572 --> 01:19:15,092
Speaker 2: Well that's pretty interesting, wasn't And then news Winston Peters

1605
01:19:15,173 --> 01:19:17,772
Speaker 2: is speaking out against the Prime Minister's plan to combat

1606
01:19:18,013 --> 01:19:22,173
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's tariffs the foreigners to criticize Chris Luxe's plan

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01:19:22,293 --> 01:19:24,892
Speaker 2: to move on forming a free trading block of Asia,

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01:19:24,933 --> 01:19:28,293
Speaker 2: Pacific and EU countries to collectively push back. Luxon has

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01:19:28,293 --> 01:19:31,333
Speaker 2: spoke to World Letters this Afternoons. Peter's is not backing

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01:19:31,372 --> 01:19:31,772
Speaker 2: the plan.

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01:19:32,013 --> 01:19:33,173
Speaker 4: This is all very premature.

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01:19:33,372 --> 01:19:34,972
Speaker 20: Well, look, and we're trying to sort out this other

1613
01:19:35,013 --> 01:19:38,253
Speaker 20: thing with America and China's trade war, and we're rushing

1614
01:19:38,293 --> 01:19:38,892
Speaker 20: off the solutions.

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01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:40,653
Speaker 4: Let's find out what happened there first.

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01:19:41,133 --> 01:19:44,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually I was thinking that this morning. I

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01:19:44,293 --> 01:19:46,692
Speaker 2: thinking about this. Christopher lux In this week has been

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01:19:46,732 --> 01:19:50,532
Speaker 2: going hard on that, and I don't know, don't do

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01:19:50,612 --> 01:19:52,612
Speaker 2: We just want to one hundred and eighteen eighty be

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01:19:52,612 --> 01:19:54,572
Speaker 2: interested to see what people think about this. Do we

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01:19:54,652 --> 01:19:56,492
Speaker 2: just want to keep our head down and wait till

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01:19:56,532 --> 01:19:59,932
Speaker 2: things settle? Do we really want to be the country

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01:19:59,973 --> 01:20:05,412
Speaker 2: that's publicly saying that we are planning to form a

1624
01:20:05,692 --> 01:20:08,253
Speaker 2: free trading block of Asia, Pacific and EU countries to

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01:20:08,452 --> 01:20:11,532
Speaker 2: push back collectively? Pushed back? I mean, what has Luckson

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01:20:11,572 --> 01:20:12,173
Speaker 2: actually said?

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01:20:12,492 --> 01:20:15,293
Speaker 3: Well, the quote from him this morning, so he welcomed

1628
01:20:15,333 --> 01:20:18,972
Speaker 3: the pause that Donald Trump implemented. He's ramped up the

1629
01:20:19,013 --> 01:20:22,532
Speaker 3: tariff war with China, but paused the ten percent tariff.

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01:20:22,572 --> 01:20:25,893
Speaker 3: So he said, I quote, what we really need is certainty.

1631
01:20:25,893 --> 01:20:28,293
Speaker 3: And part of the problem is the instability and uncertainty.

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01:20:28,333 --> 01:20:30,453
Speaker 3: We've woken up this morning and there's been a suspension

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01:20:30,692 --> 01:20:33,492
Speaker 3: of reciprocal tariff's above the ten percent level for many

1634
01:20:33,492 --> 01:20:36,452
Speaker 3: countries for ninety days. The danger is that everybody's just

1635
01:20:36,452 --> 01:20:38,772
Speaker 3: sitting there in a state of stasis, actually not wanting

1636
01:20:38,812 --> 01:20:41,333
Speaker 3: to invest, consumers not wanting to purchase or buy because

1637
01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:43,612
Speaker 3: they don't know what's happening next. He said he had

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01:20:43,612 --> 01:20:45,732
Speaker 3: lined up calls with a series of world leaders to

1639
01:20:45,772 --> 01:20:48,652
Speaker 3: discuss forming a trading block with countries that wanted to

1640
01:20:48,692 --> 01:20:50,892
Speaker 3: retain the free market system.

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01:20:51,293 --> 01:20:57,532
Speaker 2: Well that's slightly different than collectively pushing back. But I

1642
01:20:57,612 --> 01:20:59,652
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I'd love people thoughts one hundred and

1643
01:20:59,652 --> 01:21:03,293
Speaker 2: eighty teen eighty because this is a developing situation. I mean,

1644
01:21:03,333 --> 01:21:06,572
Speaker 2: how different is things looking this morning than they were

1645
01:21:06,652 --> 01:21:10,532
Speaker 2: even yesterday? Do we really want to be putting up

1646
01:21:10,532 --> 01:21:12,732
Speaker 2: a hand and saying, hey, look at us, look at us,

1647
01:21:12,732 --> 01:21:14,612
Speaker 2: look at us. This is what we're doing. We totally

1648
01:21:14,652 --> 01:21:16,692
Speaker 2: disagree with you. Look look, look, look look over here,

1649
01:21:16,732 --> 01:21:21,852
Speaker 2: look at look at New Zealand. Because Trump seems to appreciate, well,

1650
01:21:22,093 --> 01:21:24,492
Speaker 2: this is he was the seventy countries that have reached

1651
01:21:24,532 --> 01:21:27,852
Speaker 2: out to him. He talks a lot about loyalty and

1652
01:21:28,253 --> 01:21:33,852
Speaker 2: the people that didn't didn't, you know, put up reciproccriprocal tariffs.

1653
01:21:34,372 --> 01:21:37,572
Speaker 2: And currently, obviously his sights are on China. But do

1654
01:21:37,652 --> 01:21:39,372
Speaker 2: we really want his sights to be on us? I

1655
01:21:39,372 --> 01:21:42,173
Speaker 2: don't know? Or is that just cowardly thinking? And if

1656
01:21:42,173 --> 01:21:45,652
Speaker 2: New Zealand believes in what Christopher Luxon believes, and if

1657
01:21:45,692 --> 01:21:48,053
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister believes in that, then he should just

1658
01:21:48,173 --> 01:21:50,492
Speaker 2: go go for it because he believes that's the right

1659
01:21:50,532 --> 01:21:50,892
Speaker 2: thing to do.

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01:21:51,053 --> 01:21:53,372
Speaker 3: Well, ironically, Christopher Luckson has got a lot of stick

1661
01:21:53,452 --> 01:21:55,412
Speaker 3: for you know, making a lot of noise but not

1662
01:21:55,452 --> 01:21:58,012
Speaker 3: doing much. Now he appears to want to do something.

1663
01:21:58,053 --> 01:22:01,173
Speaker 3: But I easily agree. I think that is quite a

1664
01:22:01,253 --> 01:22:04,173
Speaker 3: brave move from him to say to reporters that he

1665
01:22:04,173 --> 01:22:06,093
Speaker 3: has lined up all these calls with the leaders to

1666
01:22:06,093 --> 01:22:08,612
Speaker 3: try and form this. Well, it will be a new

1667
01:22:08,652 --> 01:22:12,852
Speaker 3: trading block, right, and there's no doubt that that will

1668
01:22:12,893 --> 01:22:16,252
Speaker 3: get back to the United States of America. And Winston

1669
01:22:16,372 --> 01:22:19,572
Speaker 3: is very very good in that foreign minister role. He

1670
01:22:19,692 --> 01:22:22,133
Speaker 3: knows how to work a room, and he knows how

1671
01:22:22,173 --> 01:22:23,892
Speaker 3: to charm, and he knows the ins and outs of

1672
01:22:23,933 --> 01:22:27,612
Speaker 3: those negotiations. And for him to say premature I would

1673
01:22:27,612 --> 01:22:29,693
Speaker 3: be leaning on the side of Winston Peters.

1674
01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:33,012
Speaker 2: Well it is. It feels like a strategy that Christopher

1675
01:22:33,093 --> 01:22:36,452
Speaker 2: Luxen this week has decided to go hard, hard on

1676
01:22:36,772 --> 01:22:39,852
Speaker 2: discussion free trade and saying exactly what New Zealand believes

1677
01:22:39,853 --> 01:22:42,253
Speaker 2: in and we do and that's how we've behaved as

1678
01:22:42,253 --> 01:22:46,053
Speaker 2: a country. And we're a very very good trading nation

1679
01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:48,133
Speaker 2: and we're very fair with other people. Yeah, I mean,

1680
01:22:48,173 --> 01:22:51,173
Speaker 2: Canada hasn't been great with us with tariff lately, but

1681
01:22:51,812 --> 01:22:54,532
Speaker 2: we are very and we have to be Basically, that's

1682
01:22:54,572 --> 01:22:58,652
Speaker 2: the situation we are in. But I don't know, I

1683
01:22:58,652 --> 01:23:01,172
Speaker 2: don't know. It seems full on and it is definitely

1684
01:23:01,253 --> 01:23:03,492
Speaker 2: quite full on that Winston Peters has said, maybe call

1685
01:23:03,532 --> 01:23:04,492
Speaker 2: you jets buddy. Yeah.

1686
01:23:04,532 --> 01:23:07,052
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What are your thoughts?

1687
01:23:07,213 --> 01:23:09,732
Speaker 3: Do you think christ Luxon is jumping the gun here?

1688
01:23:09,732 --> 01:23:12,253
Speaker 3: Do you agree with Winston Peters that it's premature or

1689
01:23:12,492 --> 01:23:15,612
Speaker 3: do you support what Christopher Luxen is trying to do.

1690
01:23:15,933 --> 01:23:18,213
Speaker 2: Should the PM keep his head down or should he

1691
01:23:18,293 --> 01:23:22,333
Speaker 2: be proactive? To use a business speak.

1692
01:23:22,133 --> 01:23:24,612
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1693
01:23:24,732 --> 01:23:29,412
Speaker 3: It is eleven past three. Very good afternoon to you.

1694
01:23:29,452 --> 01:23:32,732
Speaker 3: So we're talking about the pushback from Winston Peters. He

1695
01:23:32,973 --> 01:23:36,212
Speaker 3: is speaking out against the Prime Minister's plans to combat

1696
01:23:36,293 --> 01:23:40,452
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's tariffs. So Christopher Luxen announced plans this morning

1697
01:23:41,133 --> 01:23:44,492
Speaker 3: to potentially form a free trading block of Asia, Pacific

1698
01:23:44,492 --> 01:23:49,012
Speaker 3: and EU countries. He spoke to worldly leaders this afternoon,

1699
01:23:49,093 --> 01:23:51,053
Speaker 3: some of those world leaders this afternoon, he says, but

1700
01:23:51,572 --> 01:23:54,612
Speaker 3: Winston Peters is not backing the Prime minister. He called

1701
01:23:54,612 --> 01:23:58,492
Speaker 3: his moves very premature, and he says before rushing off

1702
01:23:58,492 --> 01:24:01,133
Speaker 3: to find new solutions. The government should be finding out

1703
01:24:01,133 --> 01:24:04,612
Speaker 3: what happened there first and getting to the negotiating table.

1704
01:24:05,812 --> 01:24:10,013
Speaker 2: So it's an interesting coalition. Governments are interesting out there,

1705
01:24:10,053 --> 01:24:11,892
Speaker 2: especially with one Speeds because this is the deputy prime

1706
01:24:11,893 --> 01:24:16,652
Speaker 2: minister and sort of a contradicting the prime ministers. It's

1707
01:24:16,692 --> 01:24:20,772
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. But yeah, I mean, the question we're asking

1708
01:24:21,013 --> 01:24:23,852
Speaker 2: is should Christopher Luxen be going so hard at this

1709
01:24:23,893 --> 01:24:26,492
Speaker 2: point or should he just wait? Ye As Whenston Peter says,

1710
01:24:26,532 --> 01:24:29,612
Speaker 2: to see how things settle currently America and China are

1711
01:24:29,612 --> 01:24:31,372
Speaker 2: going at each other, do we really want to put

1712
01:24:31,452 --> 01:24:34,093
Speaker 2: up our hand and say, look at us, look at us.

1713
01:24:34,133 --> 01:24:38,852
Speaker 2: We're trying to form a new trading block, but of Asia,

1714
01:24:38,853 --> 01:24:40,652
Speaker 2: Pacific and EU countries to push back.

1715
01:24:40,692 --> 01:24:41,973
Speaker 3: Do we really want to say that? It kind of

1716
01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:44,492
Speaker 3: feels like the only advantage we've got at the moment

1717
01:24:44,732 --> 01:24:47,452
Speaker 3: is that the US is not really paying attention to us,

1718
01:24:47,452 --> 01:24:50,213
Speaker 3: which is a good thing, and by keeping it down

1719
01:24:50,612 --> 01:24:53,852
Speaker 3: and not ruffling feathers or trying to set up a

1720
01:24:53,893 --> 01:24:57,333
Speaker 3: potentially new trading block with other like minded nations at

1721
01:24:57,333 --> 01:25:00,372
Speaker 3: this stage, I would be leaning to what Winston Peters

1722
01:25:00,412 --> 01:25:02,412
Speaker 3: is saying here that Hey, now is not the time

1723
01:25:02,572 --> 01:25:04,852
Speaker 3: for going for a new strategy. Let's just call our jets,

1724
01:25:04,933 --> 01:25:08,852
Speaker 3: keep our head down and hopefully the US will treat

1725
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:09,852
Speaker 3: us quietly going forward.

1726
01:25:09,893 --> 01:25:12,213
Speaker 2: Trump's only in office for four years. This is this texture.

1727
01:25:12,293 --> 01:25:15,093
Speaker 2: He can't run again. Reacting might be premature, but safeguarding

1728
01:25:15,093 --> 01:25:18,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand against any future trade instabilities, whether from the

1729
01:25:18,213 --> 01:25:20,572
Speaker 2: US or elsewhere, is never going to be a bad thing.

1730
01:25:20,812 --> 01:25:24,333
Speaker 2: And so I support the Prime Minister's move. You know,

1731
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:27,772
Speaker 2: he's doing it quite publicly, though, isn't he Because you

1732
01:25:27,812 --> 01:25:30,093
Speaker 2: could have these chats to all these leaders and just

1733
01:25:30,213 --> 01:25:34,572
Speaker 2: you know, feel things out a bit. But he's doing

1734
01:25:34,612 --> 01:25:36,652
Speaker 2: the press rounds and saying, look that this is what

1735
01:25:36,812 --> 01:25:39,412
Speaker 2: I want to do. I want to He's being very

1736
01:25:39,492 --> 01:25:42,772
Speaker 2: very clear on that he doesn't support what America is doing. Yeah,

1737
01:25:42,853 --> 01:25:44,492
Speaker 2: Luxon should keep out of it. He's not the world

1738
01:25:44,612 --> 01:25:48,173
Speaker 2: CEO he thinks he is. Says this texture. Yeah, Charlie,

1739
01:25:48,253 --> 01:25:48,772
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

1740
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:53,852
Speaker 16: It depends exactly what he's trying to do. On the

1741
01:25:53,893 --> 01:25:56,253
Speaker 16: sweet he's pushing back against Trump. It's not a good idea,

1742
01:25:56,293 --> 01:25:59,293
Speaker 16: but it doesn't sound like that's what he's doing. If

1743
01:25:59,333 --> 01:26:02,932
Speaker 16: he's looking for a way of maybe leveraging some more

1744
01:26:02,973 --> 01:26:05,572
Speaker 16: momentum on free trade agreements and people like India and

1745
01:26:05,612 --> 01:26:07,052
Speaker 16: such like. It's a fabulous idea.

1746
01:26:08,812 --> 01:26:14,133
Speaker 3: Do you see the angle from Winston Peters And he's

1747
01:26:14,213 --> 01:26:16,893
Speaker 3: you know, he hasn't used incredibly strong language here, but

1748
01:26:16,933 --> 01:26:20,612
Speaker 3: he's alluded that it's premature and right now, arguably it's

1749
01:26:20,652 --> 01:26:23,852
Speaker 3: better for us just to keep our heads low. And

1750
01:26:23,933 --> 01:26:26,732
Speaker 3: we do have diplomat diplomats in the US right now,

1751
01:26:26,853 --> 01:26:29,572
Speaker 3: probably around the negotiating table or in a good position

1752
01:26:29,652 --> 01:26:33,132
Speaker 3: to start those negotiations. Is that a fair argument, Sharp.

1753
01:26:34,933 --> 01:26:36,772
Speaker 16: I don't know. I mean, we're not highly in the

1754
01:26:36,772 --> 01:26:39,572
Speaker 16: fact that we believe in free trade, and that's Luxon's

1755
01:26:39,572 --> 01:26:41,932
Speaker 16: a huge part of that part of it. So he's

1756
01:26:41,973 --> 01:26:44,013
Speaker 16: not going to against everything he believes. I mean, we've

1757
01:26:44,053 --> 01:26:46,892
Speaker 16: been spending the last however many years trying to get

1758
01:26:46,893 --> 01:26:49,892
Speaker 16: a free trade agreement with all these countries. In a

1759
01:26:49,893 --> 01:26:52,932
Speaker 16: way this could fast track our ability to do that, So,

1760
01:26:53,213 --> 01:26:55,093
Speaker 16: you know, I don't think it's a slight on trumb

1761
01:26:55,133 --> 01:26:57,133
Speaker 16: and details him. I don't believe in taris while he

1762
01:26:57,213 --> 01:27:00,333
Speaker 16: said that a million times, most people have done. But

1763
01:27:00,372 --> 01:27:02,213
Speaker 16: if he's using it as a pushback to Trent and

1764
01:27:02,213 --> 01:27:05,012
Speaker 16: that's quite different, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.

1765
01:27:05,973 --> 01:27:08,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because I'm just reading the headlin that

1766
01:27:08,572 --> 01:27:12,293
Speaker 2: came through and this is breaking and it said the

1767
01:27:12,372 --> 01:27:15,932
Speaker 2: Foreign Minister's criticized Chris Philux's plan to move on forming

1768
01:27:16,093 --> 01:27:18,532
Speaker 2: free trading Block of Asia Pacific in the new countries

1769
01:27:18,572 --> 01:27:22,213
Speaker 2: to collectively push back. Can we just bring up what

1770
01:27:22,293 --> 01:27:24,932
Speaker 2: actually Winston Peters is said, because it has just just happened.

1771
01:27:24,933 --> 01:27:26,852
Speaker 2: If we play that and let's actually listen to what

1772
01:27:26,853 --> 01:27:28,532
Speaker 2: Winston Peters said, we'll.

1773
01:27:28,372 --> 01:27:31,093
Speaker 3: Just get that audio lined up. You just give us

1774
01:27:31,133 --> 01:27:33,653
Speaker 3: a thumbs up when you've got that ready to go. Andrew,

1775
01:27:33,973 --> 01:27:36,333
Speaker 3: So this was Winston Peters. He was at an event

1776
01:27:36,652 --> 01:27:39,372
Speaker 3: earlier today and he was asked the question about this

1777
01:27:39,452 --> 01:27:41,972
Speaker 3: new plan. This is him speaking right now.

1778
01:27:42,253 --> 01:27:44,412
Speaker 4: This is all very premature. Well, look, and we're trying

1779
01:27:44,452 --> 01:27:45,053
Speaker 4: to sort out this.

1780
01:27:45,013 --> 01:27:48,133
Speaker 20: Other thing with America and China's trade war, and we're

1781
01:27:48,173 --> 01:27:49,092
Speaker 20: rushing off the solutions.

1782
01:27:49,173 --> 01:27:50,492
Speaker 4: Let's find out what happened there first.

1783
01:27:51,372 --> 01:27:53,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's find out what happens there first. Is

1784
01:27:53,853 --> 01:27:57,053
Speaker 2: what he's saying. Do you think that there's any do

1785
01:27:57,093 --> 01:27:59,812
Speaker 2: you think that's what? Why is it all? Charlie just wait,

1786
01:27:59,933 --> 01:28:02,892
Speaker 2: like still completely still completely believe in free trade as

1787
01:28:02,893 --> 01:28:05,973
Speaker 2: we do, and obviously Luxon has his views. But do

1788
01:28:06,013 --> 01:28:09,213
Speaker 2: you think there might be some advance auntage and just

1789
01:28:09,612 --> 01:28:12,172
Speaker 2: playing a little bit quiet at this point?

1790
01:28:14,013 --> 01:28:14,452
Speaker 22: I don't know.

1791
01:28:14,532 --> 01:28:18,612
Speaker 16: I mean the Jackie Grady played after that actually seem

1792
01:28:18,692 --> 01:28:22,612
Speaker 16: to specify exactly what Laxman was doing, which was going

1793
01:28:22,612 --> 01:28:24,612
Speaker 16: about as this is. I mean, there could be some

1794
01:28:24,652 --> 01:28:27,932
Speaker 16: good that comes out of this, you know, we don't

1795
01:28:27,973 --> 01:28:30,253
Speaker 16: know how. Apparently it just just been reading and the

1796
01:28:30,372 --> 01:28:33,052
Speaker 16: thing that China reaching out to Australia at the moment

1797
01:28:33,612 --> 01:28:35,412
Speaker 16: going to be best budies with him more. I mean,

1798
01:28:35,412 --> 01:28:37,973
Speaker 16: now I'm sure the Australians are good because that is

1799
01:28:37,973 --> 01:28:40,612
Speaker 16: that going to annoy Trump while Australia's doing that with China.

1800
01:28:40,692 --> 01:28:42,532
Speaker 16: I don't know. But where do you draw the line

1801
01:28:42,572 --> 01:28:44,973
Speaker 16: with this guy? I mean he's a crazy man. I

1802
01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:47,093
Speaker 16: mean every day he changes and changes his mind and

1803
01:28:47,133 --> 01:28:49,812
Speaker 16: what he's going to do. I just think we need

1804
01:28:49,812 --> 01:28:52,053
Speaker 16: to carry on what we believe in, as you say,

1805
01:28:52,253 --> 01:28:54,133
Speaker 16: I don't think we're pushing back on Trump. I just

1806
01:28:54,133 --> 01:28:56,053
Speaker 16: think for being smart.

1807
01:28:56,133 --> 01:28:57,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe it's getting to the table on time.

1808
01:28:58,093 --> 01:29:00,572
Speaker 2: But you know, people say that Trump is changing what

1809
01:29:00,612 --> 01:29:04,253
Speaker 2: he does every day, but he's been He campaigned on

1810
01:29:04,333 --> 01:29:08,293
Speaker 2: saying exactly what he was going to do around tariffs.

1811
01:29:08,492 --> 01:29:10,732
Speaker 2: Some footage of him on Oprah talking about it from

1812
01:29:10,812 --> 01:29:14,093
Speaker 2: the nineties. Trump has been very clear what he's doing.

1813
01:29:15,213 --> 01:29:17,253
Speaker 2: He's but he's actually doing what he said he was

1814
01:29:17,253 --> 01:29:18,892
Speaker 2: going to do when he was campaigning, which I think

1815
01:29:19,013 --> 01:29:21,492
Speaker 2: is freaking out freaking people out a little bit. Yeah,

1816
01:29:21,853 --> 01:29:25,053
Speaker 2: but he's not opposed you know, maybe just doesn't even

1817
01:29:25,093 --> 01:29:27,293
Speaker 2: care about New Zealand, but he's definitely not opposed to

1818
01:29:27,452 --> 01:29:29,732
Speaker 2: just slamming someone because they put their head up, that's

1819
01:29:29,732 --> 01:29:30,053
Speaker 2: for sure.

1820
01:29:30,213 --> 01:29:33,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to Charlie's point, I can understand that.

1821
01:29:33,692 --> 01:29:36,333
Speaker 3: And Charlie, I get your point that if there are

1822
01:29:36,933 --> 01:29:42,333
Speaker 3: opportunities that can be gained from, you know, countries, say

1823
01:29:42,333 --> 01:29:46,652
Speaker 3: in the European Union that traditionally we haven't had strong

1824
01:29:46,652 --> 01:29:49,133
Speaker 3: trading relationships with, if we can leverage that, that's a

1825
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:51,612
Speaker 3: good thing. But you've got to get that balance, right,

1826
01:29:51,692 --> 01:29:54,732
Speaker 3: don't you. With what is happening currently, it's clearly a

1827
01:29:54,853 --> 01:29:58,412
Speaker 3: very moving situation and every country needs to be very

1828
01:29:58,452 --> 01:29:59,772
Speaker 3: careful about how they tackle it.

1829
01:30:01,412 --> 01:30:03,972
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean that this ninety day flip flot yesterday.

1830
01:30:04,013 --> 01:30:07,253
Speaker 16: It just shows that he misunderstood how the market is

1831
01:30:07,253 --> 01:30:10,053
Speaker 16: going to react. And I wouldn't be surprised if this

1832
01:30:10,133 --> 01:30:13,732
Speaker 16: ninety days gets pushed out further, you know, I mean, what.

1833
01:30:13,692 --> 01:30:15,372
Speaker 2: Do you say to people that don't say that. You

1834
01:30:15,372 --> 01:30:17,293
Speaker 2: know a lot of people in America are saying that

1835
01:30:17,293 --> 01:30:19,333
Speaker 2: that wasn't a flip flop, that this is the plan

1836
01:30:19,692 --> 01:30:22,333
Speaker 2: all along, and it's just Trump playing out his Art

1837
01:30:22,372 --> 01:30:25,612
Speaker 2: of the Deal strategy that is, you know, was in

1838
01:30:25,612 --> 01:30:26,812
Speaker 2: his nineteen eighty seven book.

1839
01:30:28,572 --> 01:30:30,532
Speaker 16: Well, I guess you had to decide which side on

1840
01:30:30,532 --> 01:30:32,293
Speaker 16: whether he's a genius or idiot.

1841
01:30:33,093 --> 01:30:38,053
Speaker 3: Ye, yeah, thank you for your call, but just you know,

1842
01:30:38,173 --> 01:30:42,173
Speaker 3: and that is your bang on that. He has been

1843
01:30:42,173 --> 01:30:46,292
Speaker 3: talking about his not love of terrorists, but he clearly

1844
01:30:46,973 --> 01:30:49,652
Speaker 3: likes that strategy, and he's been talking about that not

1845
01:30:49,853 --> 01:30:51,692
Speaker 3: just in the last year, but for the last twenty

1846
01:30:51,732 --> 01:30:54,812
Speaker 3: thirty years. Right, So nobody can say they didn't know

1847
01:30:54,933 --> 01:30:56,932
Speaker 3: it was going to happen. The problem was that they

1848
01:30:57,013 --> 01:30:59,253
Speaker 3: never thought he was going to implement it because they

1849
01:30:59,293 --> 01:31:01,852
Speaker 3: couldn't understand the rationale. But that's very different. He was

1850
01:31:01,933 --> 01:31:04,372
Speaker 3: quite clear, quite clear during the campaign that he was

1851
01:31:04,412 --> 01:31:06,253
Speaker 3: going to en next terists. He said it again and again.

1852
01:31:06,333 --> 01:31:10,813
Speaker 2: Dude has been talking about it for thirty years. Yeah, exactly,

1853
01:31:11,572 --> 01:31:14,412
Speaker 2: how does that saying go about? Evil happens when others

1854
01:31:14,452 --> 01:31:16,932
Speaker 2: stay silent, good on lucks and support China and others

1855
01:31:16,973 --> 01:31:21,932
Speaker 2: being made to kick kiss Trump's butt? Yeah, I mean yeah,

1856
01:31:22,053 --> 01:31:23,692
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of what I was saying before

1857
01:31:23,732 --> 01:31:27,333
Speaker 2: was and I was like, is Luxon doing this because

1858
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:29,492
Speaker 2: he thinks it's a moral stand? I don't know. I

1859
01:31:29,492 --> 01:31:33,892
Speaker 2: imagine he must think that this is a strategy, a

1860
01:31:33,973 --> 01:31:38,093
Speaker 2: strategy to you know, jump in while things are hot

1861
01:31:38,492 --> 01:31:40,812
Speaker 2: and see if he can sort things out for New Zealand.

1862
01:31:41,372 --> 01:31:42,772
Speaker 2: But you know, I guess time will tell.

1863
01:31:42,933 --> 01:31:46,572
Speaker 3: Yeah. Quick, a couple of messages here, Tyler, You're clearly

1864
01:31:46,612 --> 01:31:48,412
Speaker 3: not an export. No I am not. So if you

1865
01:31:48,452 --> 01:31:50,093
Speaker 3: are an export, I love to hear from you. How

1866
01:31:50,093 --> 01:31:52,412
Speaker 3: do you feel about this? Are you right behind Christopher

1867
01:31:52,452 --> 01:31:54,732
Speaker 3: Luckxon's plans or are you more akin to what Winston

1868
01:31:54,772 --> 01:31:57,372
Speaker 3: Peters are saying is that we just need to take

1869
01:31:57,412 --> 01:32:00,652
Speaker 3: a step back and just let the dust settle and

1870
01:32:00,772 --> 01:32:03,213
Speaker 3: then start to decide what our strategy is going forward.

1871
01:32:03,253 --> 01:32:05,612
Speaker 2: I think when s Peter's has been handling things with Trump, wisely,

1872
01:32:05,692 --> 01:32:08,532
Speaker 2: and we got off lightly with only ten percent. Like

1873
01:32:08,612 --> 01:32:11,012
Speaker 2: Peter said, we should wait to see where the chips

1874
01:32:11,013 --> 01:32:13,692
Speaker 2: settle first and not be too hasty in our reaction.

1875
01:32:13,853 --> 01:32:16,772
Speaker 2: Not to mention it's foolish to upset Trump. That is

1876
01:32:18,093 --> 01:32:21,372
Speaker 2: saying what I tried to say in a such a

1877
01:32:21,492 --> 01:32:23,492
Speaker 2: much more succinct way than I've been trying to say.

1878
01:32:23,532 --> 01:32:25,012
Speaker 2: Thank you, dear, thanks you for your text.

1879
01:32:25,492 --> 01:32:27,452
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1880
01:32:27,492 --> 01:32:32,013
Speaker 3: It's twenty three past three.

1881
01:32:33,173 --> 01:32:36,532
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1882
01:32:36,612 --> 01:32:38,572
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk said.

1883
01:32:38,452 --> 01:32:42,293
Speaker 3: Be afternoon, twenty five past three, and we're talking about

1884
01:32:43,853 --> 01:32:46,213
Speaker 3: a potential change in strategy from the Prime Minister that

1885
01:32:46,253 --> 01:32:49,292
Speaker 3: he's looking into. It's getting a little bit of pushback

1886
01:32:49,293 --> 01:32:52,452
Speaker 3: from Winston Peters. So what the Prime Minister says he

1887
01:32:52,812 --> 01:32:55,852
Speaker 3: is looking to do is he wants to put the

1888
01:32:55,853 --> 01:32:58,692
Speaker 3: feelers out for a potential new free trading block with

1889
01:32:58,732 --> 01:33:02,012
Speaker 3: out Asia Pacific partners and others in the European Union

1890
01:33:02,053 --> 01:33:04,333
Speaker 3: on the back of the tariff situation that is still

1891
01:33:04,412 --> 01:33:08,333
Speaker 3: unfolding as we speak. Winston Peters has said today very

1892
01:33:08,412 --> 01:33:11,532
Speaker 3: recently that it's probably time to just have a we

1893
01:33:11,692 --> 01:33:13,973
Speaker 3: pause and a breather. I'm paraphrasing here, this is not

1894
01:33:14,013 --> 01:33:14,612
Speaker 3: a direct quote.

1895
01:33:14,612 --> 01:33:17,892
Speaker 2: Clearly, he's saying, there's a lot going on between America

1896
01:33:17,933 --> 01:33:21,012
Speaker 2: and China right now, let's just let the dust settle.

1897
01:33:21,572 --> 01:33:24,892
Speaker 2: Is this more about Is this more about the wind

1898
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:28,372
Speaker 2: being taken out of Winston's role as trade negotiator. Winston

1899
01:33:28,412 --> 01:33:32,253
Speaker 2: doesn't like his turf being encroached on this. Texasays, thank

1900
01:33:32,293 --> 01:33:36,093
Speaker 2: god for Winston yet again, Luxeon showing his naivety. And

1901
01:33:36,133 --> 01:33:38,133
Speaker 2: this has been said. Trump can get a third term,

1902
01:33:38,452 --> 01:33:41,093
Speaker 2: he can be elected a third time. JD can be

1903
01:33:41,133 --> 01:33:43,812
Speaker 2: elected and step down to let the VP Trump take

1904
01:33:43,853 --> 01:33:46,213
Speaker 2: the reins. I'm living in hope for that to happen,

1905
01:33:46,293 --> 01:33:51,972
Speaker 2: said Jake. So as everything with Trump in the headline,

1906
01:33:52,973 --> 01:33:57,892
Speaker 2: there are wildly disparate views. Glenn, welcome to the show.

1907
01:33:57,933 --> 01:33:58,532
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this?

1908
01:34:00,732 --> 01:34:03,813
Speaker 23: You guys just oh.

1909
01:34:03,572 --> 01:34:05,612
Speaker 3: Glenn, think we just last year. We'll put you back

1910
01:34:05,612 --> 01:34:06,972
Speaker 3: to Andrew one. We got you back.

1911
01:34:08,853 --> 01:34:11,652
Speaker 23: A couple of things. Firstly, Trump's flip flopping all over

1912
01:34:11,692 --> 01:34:15,053
Speaker 23: the place. At the time he was announcing that there

1913
01:34:15,093 --> 01:34:18,013
Speaker 23: was a ninety day pause going on. One of this

1914
01:34:18,692 --> 01:34:23,653
Speaker 23: as made your advisers, was speaking to Congress saying Congress

1915
01:34:24,053 --> 01:34:27,012
Speaker 23: saying that they were staying the course. The left hand

1916
01:34:27,053 --> 01:34:28,732
Speaker 23: doesn't know what the right hand's doing.

1917
01:34:29,053 --> 01:34:31,572
Speaker 2: Well, that's is one of his advisors. That that's you

1918
01:34:31,612 --> 01:34:34,012
Speaker 2: don't know whether his advisor wasn't on the plan though,

1919
01:34:34,732 --> 01:34:34,893
Speaker 2: you know.

1920
01:34:37,133 --> 01:34:40,933
Speaker 23: Sorry, the reality is he was saying that Trump was

1921
01:34:40,973 --> 01:34:44,012
Speaker 23: going to stay the cause he'd been talking for two hours.

1922
01:34:44,133 --> 01:34:47,333
Speaker 23: Had to be interrupt Congress to say that Trump had

1923
01:34:47,372 --> 01:34:48,133
Speaker 23: changed his mind.

1924
01:34:48,372 --> 01:34:53,213
Speaker 2: So do you think, though, if we agree that, let's

1925
01:34:53,293 --> 01:34:56,492
Speaker 2: just say for argument's sake, that Trump Trump is flip

1926
01:34:56,492 --> 01:35:00,293
Speaker 2: flopping all over the place, do you think under those

1927
01:35:00,333 --> 01:35:04,972
Speaker 2: circumstances it's good for us to be playing a hand,

1928
01:35:05,253 --> 01:35:07,452
Speaker 2: as christ of Luxon seems to be, or do you

1929
01:35:07,492 --> 01:35:10,412
Speaker 2: think as Winston Peters seems to be, suggesting that we

1930
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Speaker 2: wait things, wait for things to settle.

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Speaker 23: I don't think he's playing his hand. I think one

1932
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Speaker 23: of the things that New Zealand needs to do. It's

1933
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Speaker 23: a very I think partners that we are trading with

1934
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Speaker 23: in a free trade agreement all the time before.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, we've lost you, Glenn, because we really want

1936
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Speaker 2: to hear what you think about this. Yeah, but we're

1937
01:35:34,293 --> 01:35:36,333
Speaker 2: currently just having terrible phone line from you.

1938
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'll go to Greg in the meantime and hopefully

1939
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Speaker 3: get Glenn back. Get a greeg.

1940
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Speaker 22: How are you going, guys?

1941
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Speaker 2: Oh that's a beautiful clear line from you, Greg. Thank you.

1942
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Speaker 22: Take take Trump seriously but not always literally. He loves

1943
01:35:50,452 --> 01:35:56,452
Speaker 22: McDonald's and they love our mince Man, right, brilliant those

1944
01:35:57,213 --> 01:36:01,532
Speaker 22: So look, he's a horse trader. Watch previous Paller said

1945
01:36:01,572 --> 01:36:04,892
Speaker 22: about the guy in Congress. There was actually some hours

1946
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Speaker 22: in between those two clubs. If he was watching CNN

1947
01:36:10,133 --> 01:36:11,892
Speaker 22: or something, that's probably what he would have seen.

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Speaker 8: It would have been.

1949
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a bit of pus, there's been a

1950
01:36:14,173 --> 01:36:15,932
Speaker 2: bit of there's been a bit of pushback on how

1951
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Speaker 2: that was that was put together.

1952
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Speaker 7: Oh, of course, of.

1953
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Speaker 24: Course it is.

1954
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Speaker 25: Of course it is.

1955
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Speaker 22: I mean they had they had several people talking like

1956
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Speaker 22: from twenty four hours ago over there, and I watched

1957
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Speaker 22: all the cable networks for three or four hours a day.

1958
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Speaker 22: It's a bit of an illness really. But look, he's

1959
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Speaker 22: got close to seventy countries. Now that he's got three

1960
01:36:36,893 --> 01:36:39,093
Speaker 22: of the experts are going to sit down with and

1961
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Speaker 22: negotiate and at the end of the day, China is

1962
01:36:43,692 --> 01:36:47,932
Speaker 22: the problem, and they've isolated China as the problem. You

1963
01:36:47,933 --> 01:36:50,772
Speaker 22: look over the Bibing years with the spy balloon, and

1964
01:36:50,812 --> 01:36:55,452
Speaker 22: there's all the punching of intellectual property, there's there's a

1965
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Speaker 22: trillion odd dollar trade deficit, and there are other countries

1966
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Speaker 22: like Canada and Canada itself. The hypocrisy there is I

1967
01:37:02,893 --> 01:37:07,053
Speaker 22: think was it twenty twenty three they stuck a one

1968
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Speaker 22: hundred percent tariff on Indian e cars and e bikes.

1969
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, well we're currently they're currently screwing us over

1970
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Speaker 2: tariff that at the moment. We've got them in the

1971
01:37:18,173 --> 01:37:20,052
Speaker 2: world trade courts at the moment Canada.

1972
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Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, So look, at the end of the day,

1973
01:37:24,053 --> 01:37:25,852
Speaker 22: the markets are going to be all over the place,

1974
01:37:25,933 --> 01:37:28,853
Speaker 22: as they were with Covid, as they were with the BFC.

1975
01:37:30,572 --> 01:37:33,213
Speaker 22: Just let the dust settle. And I'd rather have Winston

1976
01:37:33,293 --> 01:37:36,372
Speaker 22: on it than Luxton on it at the moment. If

1977
01:37:36,372 --> 01:37:38,333
Speaker 22: the crap at the fan and we had a referendum,

1978
01:37:38,333 --> 01:37:39,852
Speaker 22: which way do you want to go? You know, do

1979
01:37:39,893 --> 01:37:41,932
Speaker 22: you want to go with China or the United States?

1980
01:37:42,093 --> 01:37:43,612
Speaker 22: Where do you think that vote would end up?

1981
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, Greg, if this is a standoff, between China

1982
01:37:49,093 --> 01:37:52,012
Speaker 2: and America. Who do you think will blink first?

1983
01:37:54,013 --> 01:37:57,372
Speaker 22: Well, China's in a massive, massive financial hole at the moment.

1984
01:37:57,372 --> 01:38:00,293
Speaker 22: They've built city upon city upon city that are empty.

1985
01:38:01,532 --> 01:38:04,612
Speaker 22: Their whole shear market was I think seventy percent geared

1986
01:38:04,692 --> 01:38:08,892
Speaker 22: to their population, and a lot of them, you know,

1987
01:38:08,933 --> 01:38:11,372
Speaker 22: the mid class people in China over the years, that

1988
01:38:11,452 --> 01:38:13,612
Speaker 22: have lost a lot of that value and shares because

1989
01:38:13,612 --> 01:38:17,213
Speaker 22: the government promotes these people to buy shares to crop

1990
01:38:17,253 --> 01:38:23,132
Speaker 22: the market up. It's a sugar coated plastic economy. If

1991
01:38:23,173 --> 01:38:27,852
Speaker 22: you look at at and America. Look, he wants to reindustrialize.

1992
01:38:28,093 --> 01:38:31,973
Speaker 22: Why not at the moment there was a conflict, the

1993
01:38:32,053 --> 01:38:36,213
Speaker 22: military conflict. China's got the steel, the aluminium, The've got

1994
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Speaker 22: the pharmaceuticals that got all the PPP gear in America

1995
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Speaker 22: hasn't and that's what he wants to flip around.

1996
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Speaker 2: I guess the question is how quickly can manufacturing come

1997
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Speaker 2: back to the United States. And if you add into

1998
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Speaker 2: it that China doesn't really have elections, well, it doesn't

1999
01:38:53,013 --> 01:38:55,812
Speaker 2: have elections. It has elections, but we always know who's

2000
01:38:55,853 --> 01:38:58,972
Speaker 2: going to win the elections. Whereas Trump has to keep

2001
01:38:59,013 --> 01:39:02,053
Speaker 2: his people on side. There's midterms that come up at

2002
01:39:02,093 --> 01:39:05,253
Speaker 2: some point and the Republican Party might blink and start

2003
01:39:05,253 --> 01:39:09,732
Speaker 2: putting pressure on him. So under that that, you know,

2004
01:39:10,053 --> 01:39:13,133
Speaker 2: just just democracy versus not democracy, you can you can

2005
01:39:13,213 --> 01:39:17,732
Speaker 2: hold on to your plans for longer. From China's perspective, well, look,

2006
01:39:17,772 --> 01:39:18,412
Speaker 2: put it this way.

2007
01:39:18,452 --> 01:39:21,053
Speaker 22: Can America keep kicking their debt can down the road?

2008
01:39:21,173 --> 01:39:21,372
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2009
01:39:21,372 --> 01:39:24,572
Speaker 22: They forty trillion in debt now, if that's what the

2010
01:39:24,612 --> 01:39:29,333
Speaker 22: Democrats want, borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow. The interest alone is

2011
01:39:29,372 --> 01:39:31,932
Speaker 22: more than their GDP in the States. It has to

2012
01:39:32,013 --> 01:39:35,893
Speaker 22: change somehow somewhere, and he's getting billions of dollars in

2013
01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:40,692
Speaker 22: every day with terraffs. There are countries that are now going, yeah, okay, yeah,

2014
01:39:40,692 --> 01:39:43,253
Speaker 22: we do need to talk to you. Yes, we're the

2015
01:39:43,293 --> 01:39:46,133
Speaker 22: European Union. We're slapping thirty percent on your cars and

2016
01:39:46,133 --> 01:39:48,293
Speaker 22: you're putting two and a half percent on our cars.

2017
01:39:49,093 --> 01:39:51,933
Speaker 22: If that was New Zealand and Australia and you know,

2018
01:39:52,253 --> 01:39:55,133
Speaker 22: a trade sort of spat, I think people in this

2019
01:39:55,173 --> 01:39:57,412
Speaker 22: country will be saying the same bloody thing. Look at

2020
01:39:57,412 --> 01:39:59,692
Speaker 22: what China did to Australia over the last ten years

2021
01:39:59,732 --> 01:40:02,492
Speaker 22: with their growin and their wines and everything else. You know,

2022
01:40:02,572 --> 01:40:05,213
Speaker 22: here's five hundred percent tariff here and four hundred percent

2023
01:40:05,253 --> 01:40:09,972
Speaker 22: tariff here, and that eventually they backed off. But China

2024
01:40:10,213 --> 01:40:15,293
Speaker 22: is the problem intertwined with China, you know, in perpetuity.

2025
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Speaker 22: So that's our position.

2026
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Speaker 2: So our last caller said that Trump's a madman and

2027
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Speaker 2: he's flip flopping everywhere. Greg, do you think that he's

2028
01:40:23,933 --> 01:40:26,293
Speaker 2: got a plan? Do you think he's playing three D chess?

2029
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Speaker 22: I don't believe that was a flip flop because within

2030
01:40:30,492 --> 01:40:33,772
Speaker 22: that time period, all of these countries are now wanting

2031
01:40:33,812 --> 01:40:35,572
Speaker 22: to sit down and talk, and he's got three of

2032
01:40:35,572 --> 01:40:38,852
Speaker 22: his senior people that have that have split up and

2033
01:40:38,893 --> 01:40:41,093
Speaker 22: they're going into groups to talk to all of these

2034
01:40:41,133 --> 01:40:43,653
Speaker 22: countries that definitely want to talk to the States.

2035
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it does seem to Japan and the rest.

2036
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Speaker 2: It does to be fair seem very much the playbook

2037
01:40:51,652 --> 01:40:54,133
Speaker 2: from his nineteen eighty seven book The Heart of the Till.

2038
01:40:54,253 --> 01:40:56,852
Speaker 3: There's a big difference between a flip flop and a tactic,

2039
01:40:56,893 --> 01:40:59,532
Speaker 3: and that feels like a tactic and that word.

2040
01:40:59,572 --> 01:41:02,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, But as our previous caller said, you know, depends

2041
01:41:02,452 --> 01:41:04,652
Speaker 2: which way you look at it. Thanks for you call, Greg,

2042
01:41:04,652 --> 01:41:05,293
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

2043
01:41:05,372 --> 01:41:08,173
Speaker 3: Headlines with Raylene coming up then will pack this back

2044
01:41:08,492 --> 01:41:10,412
Speaker 3: with more of your funals one hundred and eighteen eighties

2045
01:41:10,412 --> 01:41:10,932
Speaker 3: A number.

2046
01:41:10,732 --> 01:41:11,132
Speaker 9: To call.

2047
01:41:13,853 --> 01:41:17,572
Speaker 6: You talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis, It's

2048
01:41:17,652 --> 01:41:20,932
Speaker 6: no trouble with a blue bubble. A man's been removed

2049
01:41:20,973 --> 01:41:25,892
Speaker 6: from Parliament's public gallery after disrupting David Seymour's speaking during

2050
01:41:25,933 --> 01:41:29,612
Speaker 6: the final debate on his Treaty Principle's Bill before it's

2051
01:41:29,732 --> 01:41:30,452
Speaker 6: voted down.

2052
01:41:30,652 --> 01:41:33,452
Speaker 12: Mister Speaker, members of this House.

2053
01:41:33,333 --> 01:41:35,652
Speaker 3: Can still change their minds.

2054
01:41:40,612 --> 01:41:42,333
Speaker 2: Where are the police helping.

2055
01:41:42,133 --> 01:41:42,572
Speaker 15: Us with us?

2056
01:41:43,093 --> 01:41:46,372
Speaker 6: After calling for help, Speaker Jerry brownly rebuke the man,

2057
01:41:46,492 --> 01:41:50,652
Speaker 6: saying any further interruptions will be treated harshly. All parties

2058
01:41:50,692 --> 01:41:54,213
Speaker 6: other than Actor expected to vote in opposition today. The

2059
01:41:54,253 --> 01:41:57,093
Speaker 6: Prime Minister has spoken of the country moving past this,

2060
01:41:57,652 --> 01:42:02,372
Speaker 6: but Seymour's promising to continue the Treaty Principle's journey. The

2061
01:42:02,452 --> 01:42:06,092
Speaker 6: Foreign Minister has criticized the Prime Minister's moves to combat

2062
01:42:06,173 --> 01:42:10,173
Speaker 6: Donald Trump's tariffs by talk with world leaders on free

2063
01:42:10,213 --> 01:42:14,412
Speaker 6: trade options on the up. The act of kindness that

2064
01:42:14,612 --> 01:42:17,772
Speaker 6: stung to solo traveler visiting New Zealand. Get the full

2065
01:42:17,812 --> 01:42:20,812
Speaker 6: story at NZID Herald Premium now back to matt Eathan

2066
01:42:20,893 --> 01:42:21,652
Speaker 6: Tyler Adams.

2067
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, and we're talking about

2068
01:42:26,053 --> 01:42:30,612
Speaker 3: a small kerfuffle between Winston Peters and Christopher Luxen, but effectively.

2069
01:42:30,692 --> 01:42:33,772
Speaker 3: Christopher Luxon said he has plans to move on forming

2070
01:42:33,772 --> 01:42:36,773
Speaker 3: a free trade block of Asian Pacific and EU countries

2071
01:42:36,812 --> 01:42:41,572
Speaker 3: to collectively push back around the situation that's happening with

2072
01:42:41,612 --> 01:42:42,572
Speaker 3: the tariffs.

2073
01:42:42,173 --> 01:42:45,572
Speaker 2: And appears at Winston Peters as pushback on Christopher Luxon,

2074
01:42:45,853 --> 01:42:49,213
Speaker 2: saying cool your jets. This whole China America thing is

2075
01:42:49,213 --> 01:42:51,772
Speaker 2: blowing up right now, putting words into his mouth, but

2076
01:42:51,812 --> 01:42:54,132
Speaker 2: maybe just let the dust settle a little bit, Luxo

2077
01:42:54,293 --> 01:42:57,252
Speaker 2: before you go hardh I'll tell you what. Like everything,

2078
01:42:57,572 --> 01:43:02,252
Speaker 2: and when it comes to Trump, we're getting a binary response.

2079
01:43:02,372 --> 01:43:04,293
Speaker 3: We certainly are. Now. Just before we go back to

2080
01:43:04,333 --> 01:43:06,532
Speaker 3: the phone calls and text, here's a little bit of

2081
01:43:06,572 --> 01:43:09,213
Speaker 3: what our Prime minister had to say just before he

2082
01:43:09,213 --> 01:43:10,452
Speaker 3: called some of those world leaders.

2083
01:43:10,572 --> 01:43:12,372
Speaker 25: A lot of my focus is on the Indo Pacific,

2084
01:43:12,412 --> 01:43:14,532
Speaker 25: in particular, the countries that I have visited and the

2085
01:43:14,612 --> 01:43:17,213
Speaker 25: leaders that I've built relationships with and wanting to check

2086
01:43:17,253 --> 01:43:19,852
Speaker 25: in with them and really understand where they are and

2087
01:43:19,893 --> 01:43:21,852
Speaker 25: how they're interpreting what's going on in the world.

2088
01:43:22,772 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 3: So there you go. I mean that is what did

2089
01:43:26,133 --> 01:43:27,892
Speaker 3: that add to the Well, well that he's trying to

2090
01:43:27,893 --> 01:43:31,212
Speaker 3: form this free trade block with the Indo Asia Pacific partners.

2091
01:43:31,253 --> 01:43:33,732
Speaker 3: So I said, yeah, we want to hit that again.

2092
01:43:33,772 --> 01:43:34,333
Speaker 2: Put that again.

2093
01:43:36,612 --> 01:43:38,253
Speaker 25: Nope, A lot of my focus is on the Indo

2094
01:43:38,293 --> 01:43:40,812
Speaker 25: Pacific in particular the countries that I have visited and

2095
01:43:40,853 --> 01:43:43,293
Speaker 25: the leaders that I've built relationships with and wanting to

2096
01:43:43,412 --> 01:43:46,093
Speaker 25: check in with them and really understand where they are

2097
01:43:46,133 --> 01:43:48,213
Speaker 25: and how they're interpreting what's going on in the world.

2098
01:43:48,452 --> 01:43:51,052
Speaker 2: Well, that just sounds like he's checking in as opposed

2099
01:43:51,053 --> 01:43:53,692
Speaker 2: to this new headline said that he was her plans

2100
01:43:53,893 --> 01:43:56,652
Speaker 2: forming a free trading block between Asia Pacific and EU

2101
01:43:56,692 --> 01:43:58,652
Speaker 2: countries and that he just said I'm checking in with them.

2102
01:43:58,853 --> 01:43:59,732
Speaker 2: That's a very different thing.

2103
01:43:59,772 --> 01:44:01,852
Speaker 3: Well, maybe he's already toning down the language after what

2104
01:44:01,853 --> 01:44:05,812
Speaker 3: Winster Beaters said. But a couple of texts coming through

2105
01:44:05,853 --> 01:44:07,293
Speaker 3: on nine two nine two, this is.

2106
01:44:07,293 --> 01:44:10,213
Speaker 2: What I was talking about for the binary response, the

2107
01:44:11,053 --> 01:44:13,572
Speaker 2: opposite the despout response, Greg is a clown being a

2108
01:44:13,652 --> 01:44:17,372
Speaker 2: US bootlooker. How many countries have China invaded versus the

2109
01:44:17,452 --> 01:44:23,333
Speaker 2: US And yeah, for Greg, someone talking common sense, you

2110
01:44:23,372 --> 01:44:26,852
Speaker 2: could be more polar opposites in their opinions there, Glenn,

2111
01:44:26,853 --> 01:44:28,093
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. We've got you back.

2112
01:44:29,492 --> 01:44:34,293
Speaker 3: Sorry boy, So where we left off. You saw the

2113
01:44:34,293 --> 01:44:36,772
Speaker 3: potential of what Christopher Luxen is trying to do here.

2114
01:44:37,893 --> 01:44:41,452
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think the reality is we're a free trading

2115
01:44:41,532 --> 01:44:43,892
Speaker 23: nation and we have been for a number of years.

2116
01:44:44,372 --> 01:44:47,972
Speaker 23: We've champion free trade agreements and we've wanted to get

2117
01:44:48,013 --> 01:44:52,292
Speaker 23: one with the US for many many years. Now, We've

2118
01:44:53,053 --> 01:44:58,132
Speaker 23: we've got tariffs on US products totally one point eight percent.

2119
01:44:58,933 --> 01:45:03,213
Speaker 23: Now the Trump Trump's people are saying it's we've got

2120
01:45:04,173 --> 01:45:07,533
Speaker 23: us at twenty percent, which is just completely in coherent.

2121
01:45:09,013 --> 01:45:12,772
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's that's an equation based on the

2122
01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:15,973
Speaker 2: you know, the just you know, the what do you

2123
01:45:16,053 --> 01:45:19,612
Speaker 2: call it deficit? Sorry, yeah, that's right now.

2124
01:45:20,173 --> 01:45:23,213
Speaker 23: The trade deficit is what the trade deficit is. You know,

2125
01:45:24,093 --> 01:45:27,732
Speaker 23: the government can't impact the trade deficits. The current government

2126
01:45:27,812 --> 01:45:30,572
Speaker 23: can turn around and say, well, we'll buy more of you,

2127
01:45:30,692 --> 01:45:33,013
Speaker 23: because that's not up to the government to do so.

2128
01:45:33,173 --> 01:45:35,852
Speaker 23: That's up to the importers to make the call about

2129
01:45:35,893 --> 01:45:39,173
Speaker 23: where they want to import. So what's left to negotiate,

2130
01:45:39,893 --> 01:45:42,412
Speaker 23: and I mean with all jurisdic to Winston, I think

2131
01:45:42,452 --> 01:45:47,732
Speaker 23: he's doing a magnificent job. But the reality is, long term,

2132
01:45:48,173 --> 01:45:51,492
Speaker 23: we need to be trading with like minded countries, and

2133
01:45:51,772 --> 01:45:55,412
Speaker 23: unfortunately we can just no longer trust America.

2134
01:45:55,652 --> 01:45:57,253
Speaker 3: Well I get I get a lot of that, Glenn.

2135
01:45:57,333 --> 01:45:59,452
Speaker 3: But the problem I have with this strategy as it's

2136
01:45:59,492 --> 01:46:02,532
Speaker 3: been done in public, shouldn't this be happening behind closed doors?

2137
01:46:02,572 --> 01:46:06,013
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that any extra strategy

2138
01:46:06,253 --> 01:46:08,213
Speaker 3: or leverage we can get is a good thing, but

2139
01:46:08,372 --> 01:46:12,132
Speaker 3: at this point that should be just with government officials

2140
01:46:12,253 --> 01:46:14,012
Speaker 3: rather than media stand up information.

2141
01:46:15,173 --> 01:46:18,053
Speaker 23: Well didn't we didn't. We were we very public when

2142
01:46:18,093 --> 01:46:20,692
Speaker 23: we went to India and we you know, we were

2143
01:46:21,173 --> 01:46:24,412
Speaker 23: openly looking for a treat free trade deal with India.

2144
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess, I guess what's what's different as the

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Speaker 2: I guess Whence Peters is just call you jets. Briefly,

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Speaker 2: let's just wait till the dust settles before we make

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Speaker 2: any big plays, because we don't want, rightly or wrongly,

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Speaker 2: we don't want Trump to suddenly make an example of

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Speaker 2: US and say, look, there you go, one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: hundred percent tariffs on new Zealand because they're trying to

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Speaker 2: form this this this free trade.

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Speaker 24: You know, this trading block and just you go fundamentally,

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Speaker 24: So fundamentally, if we if we trade more with other countries,

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Speaker 24: like minded countries, and we trade less with the US,

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Speaker 24: does that automatically fix the balance of trade deficits that

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Speaker 24: we've got with the US.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's really just the purchase of it's so close,

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Speaker 2: it's really the purchase of a plane difference, isn't it

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Speaker 2: at this point.

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Speaker 23: But if you increase the trade with you know, we've

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Speaker 23: only got a limited amount of products South. So if

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Speaker 23: you if you increase the trade with other like minded

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Speaker 23: free trading company country and that as a result of that,

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Speaker 23: you reduce the amount you're trading with the US, then

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Speaker 23: all of a sudden, our trade deficit disappears. He should

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Speaker 23: be thanking us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, Yeah, I will thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: you coodling.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are currently our second biggest trading partner,

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Speaker 2: is all, and that would be a pretty pretty intense

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Speaker 2: smack in the face if suddenly red meat was one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent tariffs were just slammed on our meat that's

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Speaker 2: currently going into a lot of burgers over there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And just in terms of the international pickup

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Speaker 3: of what our Prime minister said, I'm just having a

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Speaker 3: look at the new sites now. It's been picked up

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Speaker 3: by Bloomberg, it's been picked up by Reuters, it's been

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Speaker 3: picked up by CNN. So there's no doubt about it

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Speaker 3: that information will get back to the White House. Whether

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Speaker 3: that's a good thing or not, I suppose we'll wait

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Speaker 3: and see. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to court. It is seventeen to four.

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Speaker 2: A fresh take on took Back.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams. Afternoons have your say on

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Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk then be good.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is fourteen to four and we are talking

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Speaker 3: about Winston Peters, the Deputy Prime Minister. He's speaking out

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Speaker 3: against Christopher Lux's plans to potentially or try and combat

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's tariffs. So the Christopher Luction's plans involved a

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Speaker 3: move to form a free trading block of Asia, Pacific

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Speaker 3: and EU countries to collectively push back, and he spoke

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Speaker 3: to some of those world leaders this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Has he actually said that though that he is trying

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Speaker 2: to form a free trading block because in the audio

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Speaker 2: that we played before, all he said was that he

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Speaker 2: was going to reach out for catch up. But it

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Speaker 2: has made CNN and Bloomfield. Yep, almost immediately, hasn't it. Tyler?

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Speaker 3: So the two headlines I'm looking at the moment from

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Speaker 3: Reuter's New Zealand Australia speak to other countries on butt

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Speaker 3: racine free trade and Bloomberg New Zealand proposess rule based

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Speaker 3: trading block to counter tariffs, and CNN is the similar

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Speaker 3: headline to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're getting both sides of this here. Trump

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Speaker 2: is brilliant. He's played the whole world for his entire country.

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Speaker 2: We're all watching in awe. This text to says, anyone

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Speaker 2: who thinks Trump is a strategist clearly hasn't watched the

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Speaker 2: man speak. If it walks, talks and looks like a moron,

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Speaker 2: it is a moron. The fact that his strategy is

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Speaker 2: working is purely coincidental.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you very much, Aaron. How are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 8: How are you?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Good goodness, hilarious listening to you. So I'm hearing skepticism

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Speaker 8: in your voice, and Mattie and I think you're right

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Speaker 8: I'm calling the yes on that headline. I'm going to

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Speaker 8: call it now at whatever time it is three forty

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Speaker 8: seven in the afternoon market, because I think what has

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Speaker 8: happened because you have not played audio onto the Prime

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Speaker 8: Minister saying what the headlines claiming, and I think what's

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Speaker 8: happened as a reporter somewhere, probably quite less leaning, has

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Speaker 8: extrapolated out his conversation turns it into saying it's not

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Speaker 8: then other world media have gone or someone's criticizing Trump.

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Speaker 8: It's a world leader will brand that it's a headline

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Speaker 8: because you look at the ones that have run it

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Speaker 8: are quite anti Trump, so of course they're going to

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Speaker 8: run that headline.

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Speaker 23: And so that's that's my call on it.

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Speaker 8: That's where it's at right now.

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Speaker 3: It's a fair quote. Yeah, it's a fair call, Aaron.

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Speaker 3: I've just found a direct quote here, so and this

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Speaker 3: is how it's been written, so you can take, you know,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of it with a grain of salt.

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01:51:04,013 --> 01:51:06,652
Speaker 3: But Luxeon said he would be testing what leaders and

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Speaker 3: this is the quote quote here directques can do together

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Speaker 3: to butterer us the rules based trading system. So he

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01:51:13,213 --> 01:51:16,213
Speaker 3: told those gathered at the event, can what we can

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Speaker 3: do together to buttress the rules based trading system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quite different from forming a free trading block

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01:51:22,133 --> 01:51:25,053
Speaker 2: of Asia, Pacific and EU countries to collectively push back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair that they're slightly different things.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of like a scene out of Star Wars

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Speaker 8: when they're forming trade blocks that hearing similar language. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: so I think Winston's here, we just ride this out.

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Speaker 8: New Zealand's not in a bad position in the whole deal. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: because we've got the lowest tariff. Most of our trading

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01:51:46,692 --> 01:51:50,772
Speaker 8: opposition overseas as higher tariff, So of course we're going

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01:51:50,812 --> 01:51:53,892
Speaker 8: to do better out of this. So I don't see

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01:51:54,452 --> 01:51:57,013
Speaker 8: the drama. And as far as the reset goes, the

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01:51:57,093 --> 01:52:01,053
Speaker 8: world absolutely needs a reset and the because you know,

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Speaker 8: you haven't got the same company spacy rules and China

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Speaker 8: you've got the same environmental rules. So it's an uneven

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01:52:06,452 --> 01:52:09,852
Speaker 8: playing field for manufacturer in most countries of the world

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01:52:10,133 --> 01:52:13,652
Speaker 8: that's played by the rules. And then there's argument. So

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Speaker 8: there's many reasons why this needed to happen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for you call eron.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just trying to find more information. We've tried

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01:52:22,812 --> 01:52:26,933
Speaker 3: to find that audio and difficult to track down. He

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01:52:27,053 --> 01:52:29,173
Speaker 3: did speak to the country, I believe yesterday in a

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01:52:29,253 --> 01:52:32,052
Speaker 3: similar vein, but you're right, and the language is important,

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Speaker 3: and if he didn't after the words trading block, then

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Speaker 3: that is very different from having conversations about what may happen,

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Speaker 3: you know, down the track.

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Speaker 2: What I've heard from Crystal Eluction on interviews on this

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Speaker 2: radio station has been a full throated endorsement for free

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Speaker 2: free trade and making it clear that he disagrees with tariffs,

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Speaker 2: which is a position that New Zealand saild for a

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Speaker 2: very long time. And christ flux and differently differently holds.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The latest tweet that Christopher Luxeon has just put on

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Speaker 3: X and I'll read this. This was posted at three

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Speaker 3: forty six pm this afternoon, so minutes ago. This is

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Speaker 3: breaking news, and he says, I've just spoken with Malaysia's

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Speaker 3: Prime minister. He leads a country that is our tenth

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Speaker 3: largest export partner, as well as our two countries being

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Speaker 3: partners in the CPTPP. Prime Minister Anoa is chairing ACIAN

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Speaker 3: this year. So we've had a great discussion on how

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Speaker 3: we can work together to support free trade by the rules. Okay, diplomatic,

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Speaker 3: very diplomatic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, is that collectively pushing back or is

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01:53:33,492 --> 01:53:37,253
Speaker 2: that just reaching out and doing what Christopher Luxen was

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Speaker 2: doing in India and just trying to push our trade globally.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred, ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Or do you agree with Winston Peters that we should

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Speaker 2: just keep our heads down for a little bit and

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01:53:47,772 --> 01:53:50,412
Speaker 2: see how the dust settles with everything that's happening between

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Speaker 2: China and America at the moment, considering how much things

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Speaker 2: have changed in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: It is nine to four. Back very shortly here on

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Speaker 3: news Stooks heb the big.

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Speaker 1: Stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talk, said news

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Speaker 1: dog zebby.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, it is six to four and we've been

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01:54:13,933 --> 01:54:18,173
Speaker 3: discussing Christoph lux now Prime Minister appearing to speak to

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01:54:18,333 --> 01:54:21,492
Speaker 3: other world leaders in the Asia Pacific market about the

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01:54:21,732 --> 01:54:24,933
Speaker 3: free trade rule system. Here's a little bit of what

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01:54:25,013 --> 01:54:26,133
Speaker 3: he said earlier today.

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Speaker 25: A lot of my focus is on the Endo Pacific,

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Speaker 25: in particular the countries that I have visited and the

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Speaker 25: leaders that I've built relationships with and wanting to check

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Speaker 25: in with them and really understand where they are and

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Speaker 25: how they're interpreting what's going on in the world.

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Speaker 3: And Winston Peters was asked about the strategy this afternoon,

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Speaker 3: and here's what he said, This is.

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Speaker 4: All very premature.

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Speaker 20: Well, look, and we're trying to sort out this other

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Speaker 20: thing with America and China's trade war, and we rushing

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Speaker 20: off the solutions.

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Speaker 4: That's fine, up what happened there first.

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Speaker 3: So there's been plenty of texts that have come through

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Speaker 3: over the course of this discussion. This one says, guys,

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01:55:00,453 --> 01:55:03,333
Speaker 3: we aren't forcing our meat on America, as the earlier

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01:55:03,373 --> 01:55:06,053
Speaker 3: caller alluded to. They want it, So what if we

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Speaker 3: can sell it elsewhere and say no to them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's trade highest price you can get.

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01:55:12,333 --> 01:55:17,012
Speaker 2: Absolutely bahaha. The fellas with Trump derangement syndrome all sound

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01:55:17,053 --> 01:55:21,772
Speaker 2: the same, high pitched and on the edge. Okay who

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Speaker 2: specifically was talking about.

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Speaker 3: Then, Well, Luxeon is finally growing some balls. Peter's needs

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Speaker 3: to resign and so does Donald Trump. Both old idiots.

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Speaker 3: Free trade should exist, guys.

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Speaker 2: Trump always overstates his goals, hence his pores on high

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Speaker 2: tariffs and living at universal ten percent. As for free trade,

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Speaker 2: who does it not Ossie, not Canada, not the EU,

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Speaker 2: not Japan, definitely not China. They're the worst offenders. That's

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Speaker 2: from Stan. Well, it's been a great hour of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge will have more on this developing situation after

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Speaker 2: four pm, so stay tuned, but thanks for listening. If

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