1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:00,400 Speaker 1: Right. 2 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 2: Major changes ahead for employers. The long awaited overhaul of 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: the Holidays Act will be announced today by the Workplace 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Relations Minister. This will mean business owners will hopefully have 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: more certainty over their leave requirements of their staff. Leanne 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Watson is a CEO of Business Canterbranch, is with me now, 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, Lynne. 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Good morning. 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: Okay, how long have you been waiting for this legislation 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: to be overhauled? 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Oh? Look, a very long time. We are very much 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: looking forward today's announcement and what we hope will replace 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: this long criticized Holidays Act. In fact, in my eight 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: years a CEO of Business Canterbury, I would say no 15 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: single piece of legislation has caused more frustration more confusion 16 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: than the Holidays Act. And there's been you know, significant 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: compliance nightmares, riddled with complexity, menual pay roll fixes and 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: interventions and you know some pretty serious under and overpayment 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: risks involved. 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: It's been really tricky for casual employee. So how are 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: casual employees treated differently to full timers under the current 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: act and what are you hoping to see? 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, I mean the first thing that we're hoping 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: to see is a regulation that is clearer, fairer and 25 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: just more practical for employers to implement and meet their obligations, 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: because that has been the single biggest concern that you know, 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: businesses have just simply almost needed an advanced calculus degree 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: to work out whether or not they are in fact 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: meeting those obligations. You and you're quite right when we 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: take into accounts some modern day work day practices. You know, 31 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: we do have many sectors who employ casual and part 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: time staff, manufacturers, hospitality, retail, and they have been I 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: guess the most impacted by mainly the pro rating of 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: leave based on the hour's work. That's been you know, 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues. So that's what we're hoping 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: to see today is just that particular issue, you know, 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot farer for employers to work through. 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: What else would you love to hear the curtain only en. 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: Look, I think just going back to really reducing that 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: compliance burden on businesses and having them, you know, understand 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: how to navigate that legislation that you know, that has 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: been the single biggest issue has caused huge confusion, and 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: not only for you know, small businesses, many of whom 44 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: of course don't having sort of dedicated HR resources internally, 45 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: but also you know, we know for some other bigger businesses, 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: in fact, including some of the government departments, they've also 47 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, been victim of not understanding this and getting 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: it wrong. So I think just you know, going back 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: to making it really clear, really fear and really practical 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: for businesses to molement is what we're hoping to see today. 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: Are you confident, I mean, how was the consultation process. 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: Do you feel like your concerns were heard by the minister. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Yes, we have had some good consultation and in fact, 54 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: you know, Minister van Walden has been very actively involved 55 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: in engaging with our members and Canterbury not only on 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: this but also on health and safety reform. So the 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: consultation has been good. I guess the announcement today will determine, 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, how much she has listened. This is complex. 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: I suspect that will take quite some time to work through, 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: but you know this has been worked on since twenty eighteen, 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, so there needs to be some urgency to 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: address this to get it right. 63 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeh, Watson, thank you so much for your time. 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 66 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio