1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Devon Gray are UK correspondents with US Elogevin. So after 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: the chat on the phone, how are things between Sir 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Kia and Donald Trump. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: I don't think they're very much better. We don't know 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: really the content of the call. I would love to 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: have been listening in, that's for sure. I'm sure lots 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: of advisors to our Prime Minister were listening in. This 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: is the first call, the first time that the two leaders, 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Trump and Starmer have spoken since the very growing and 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: rather nasty spat has developed between them. I say developed 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: between them. Really it's the US President angrily criticizing the 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: UK's Iran response, rather than Sekir star were responding with 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: anything offensive or rather objectionable his way. So it has 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: been rather one way traffic. But we learn from Downing 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Street the pair have had a phone call and this 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: was the very short, terse statement. The leaders began by 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: discussing the latest situation in the Middle East and the 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: military cooperation between the UK and US through the use 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: of RAF bases in support of the collective to self 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: defense of partners. The Prime Minister also shared his heartfelt 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: condolence with President Trump following the death of six US 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: soldiers they looked forward to speaking again soon. In other words, 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: I imagine there's an awful lot of content in there 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: that we simply don't know, and I can't imagine that 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: it was particularly plused call Fort Sekir Starmer with his 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: ear being bent as it were by President Trump. Either way, 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: the UK is said to be considering sending an air 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: force an aircraft carrier rather to the region to strengthen 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: its defenses there, and this ship that's supposed to be 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: going to protect Cypress still hasn't left port, a rather 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: embarrassing thing, I think for the UK, which makes it 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: look rather unprepared. 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Do we'd have any understanding as to why it is 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: that various members of Sirkia Stamer's cabinet felt it was 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: necessary to say no to that US request. 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: I think that it was something as well kiss Arma 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: felt strongly about, and that is that this should have 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: gone to be discussed whether it's legal under international law 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: or not. He hasn't said it isn't within international law, 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: but obviously by not saying that refusing to answer it, 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: he feels it is. This is a man who is 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: a lawyer by trade, and he wants everything to be 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: done by the book. It's quite clear that they don't 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: believe this is done by the book. He said, we 45 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: don't believe in regime change from the skies, I think 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: is his most telling phrase. And after all the sort 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: of various words that have been said in anger and 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: opposition MPs and MPs from his own party having a 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: bit of a go at him, I think he feels 50 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: squashed between these very tough decisions. Most recently the former 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: Labour Prime Minister, in other words, from the same party, 52 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: Sir Tony Blair, who led the UK into the Iraq 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: War in two thousand and three, has been telling people 54 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: privately that the UK should have backed the strikes from 55 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: the beginning. 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: And now, what do we know about the some terrorism 57 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: in Oslo? 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: Well, we don't have it one hundred percent confirmed. But 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: overnight at the weekend the Norwegian capital embassy building, the 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: US embassy building, sustained minor damage after an explosion in 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: the early hours of Sunday. No one was injured. The 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: Norwegian authorities say they're in contact with the US diplomats 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: and investigation is underway. US diplomats, though have not commented. 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: It is the second attack that we know about on 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: an US embassy. Another one was in Iraq, but they 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: do believe, yep, this could have been an act of terrorism. 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: That's one of the lines of the investigation they're working 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: on and they're asking for anyone with information to come forward. 69 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: And what's the fire in Glasgow? Huge? 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely huge and to an iconic building. It's very very 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: sad because really it's it's partially collapsed and I think 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be pretty much unusable now. The fire 73 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: started in a vape shop on Sunday afternoon, with the 74 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: iconic and Victorian building of the Glasgow Central Station next 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: to it, and after a few hours in the flames, 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: much of that building has collapsed. Now it's Scotland's busiest 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: train station and now all trains to and from that 78 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: what's called the High Level there have been canceled and 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: will be closed. The station will be closed until further noticed. 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 2: So this is going to cause massive disruption. Many people 81 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 2: are being told the best way really to get anywhere 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: by train, particularly back down south into England, is probably 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: to go across to Edinburgh and then down. It's that 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 2: lad at least an hour onto their journey. It's also 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: a very long way round Hi. 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Devin. We'll talk to you in 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: a couple of days. Devin Gray Ore UK corresponding. 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. Listen live to 89 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio