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Speaker 2: Hello are you great New Zealanders And welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Mountain Tyler Zibi Afternoons podcast for Winday, Winday Wednesday, the

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Speaker 2: twenty second of January, the Year of Our Lord twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. I believe it's still that year. Real own

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Speaker 2: goal of a show today we talk heaps about raw dogging,

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Speaker 2: and we talk about the Camino Trail, walking eight hundred

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Speaker 2: kilometers across Spain and just spending time in your own

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Speaker 2: thoughts without audio. And about halfway through discussion, I did

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Speaker 2: realize that we are content and you know, our main

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Speaker 2: job is to try and get people like we are

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Speaker 2: doing right now in this podcast, to have us in

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Speaker 2: their ears when they're doing things. But yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: good topic that comes around to the end because I've

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Speaker 2: been going to the gym and going for runs with

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Speaker 2: nothing in my years and just being in my own thoughts,

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Speaker 2: and I found it very cathartic.

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Speaker 3: I'm a convert, well maybe not a convert, but I'm

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Speaker 3: going to give it a crept back. It's like shower thoughts,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great show, and I didn't think we had any

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Speaker 2: too many confrontational calls to be today.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately only a couple. Yeah, yeah, you'll know them when

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm always something that you should know, listeners,

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Speaker 2: is during the show, I always running a huge long

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Speaker 2: while I'm talking. So on the text machine, you certainly

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Speaker 2: are torturing, torturing people that text and abuse.

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Speaker 3: I will say, nine times out of ten you get

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Speaker 3: them back around. They start off very angry with you,

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Speaker 3: sometimes me, but but you get them back.

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Speaker 2: I just troll them and punish them to the point

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Speaker 2: where they can't take anymore, and they come on board

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Speaker 2: and you read out of I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that text abuse to things that they're actually just

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Speaker 2: trying to get an engagement in a reaction. And if

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Speaker 2: you give them that and good faith and you rib

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Speaker 2: them back, then eventually they go this is this is

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Speaker 2: this has been a form of content. But you know,

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Speaker 2: only a really advanced broadcast like me can control texts well,

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Speaker 2: having meaningful con stations.

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Speaker 3: Will call us at the same time and you'll hear

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Speaker 3: it today, Folks's something to behold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, thank you so much. For not raw dogging

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Speaker 2: and listening to us today and set to download and

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Speaker 2: you so much and bless you and give my taste

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Speaker 2: to Kiwi.

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Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo X

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Speaker 1: ninety News Talk.

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Speaker 3: They'd be well, gooday to you, Welcome into the show. Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: six past one. I hope you're having a fantastic Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I am get a maddie, yeah, I am t but.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking out the window going, what a beautiful day.

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Speaker 3: It is a stunning day, isn't it not?

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Speaker 2: Unlike when we were on holiday and it was terrible.

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Speaker 3: It was shocking down on the South Island. But up

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Speaker 3: here in the Auckland apparently be summer for years, really apparently.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't here. It was great up north. It was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Fund a Way Bay of Island's way where I was

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Speaker 3: some decent weather, but terrible, terrible still go down on

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Speaker 3: Home exactly right onto the show today after three o'clock,

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Speaker 3: there's a trend that was doing the rounds. Maybe I

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Speaker 3: And this was primarily right Matt. On flights, people would.

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Speaker 2: Go on long now, Well that's where people were posting.

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Speaker 2: It's basically complete digital detox on the flight. So you

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Speaker 3: Part of it. I can understand when I go walk

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Speaker 3: But I think it's madness in the gym and nothing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but also I don't go to the gym, so

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Speaker 3: after three o'clock. I can't tell after two o'clock. Is

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Speaker 3: it time to look at shifting the summer holidays to February.

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Speaker 2: As we're talking about just a few minutes ago. It

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Speaker 2: This was something My math is terrible. Eighteen point seven

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but a lot of smart people already if you

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Speaker 3: But a lot of industries do shut down over that

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Speaker 2: So you turn Christmas into Easter basically, so it's just

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Speaker 3: Yep, love it, and we're gonna have a chat to

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Speaker 2: Improved productivity as well, because I think our massive break

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Speaker 2: So that's where the world's go back to it. You know,

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Speaker 3: And I think that's a good thing one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing for me personally, working

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Speaker 3: think studies have shown this that if you think working

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you said, you said in the break to me,

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Speaker 2: you said anyone that says they work from home better

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Speaker 2: they're lying to their work, definitely, and some of them

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Speaker 2: up to it as what you said, they're lying.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, smart.

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Speaker 7: You know, I've got accustomed to the flexibility now, so

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Speaker 2: Everyone that works from home does less work than people

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Speaker 3: Hot This is going to be good, all right.

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Speaker 2: Very famous person that proves my point that's coming up.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newsmakers the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: And the bottom line is Trump and Trump.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight past one, and we have been talking about

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Speaker 3: of bs on, man, I just don't think it happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I've got an example of someone that work

438
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Speaker 2: from home was very productive.

439
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, one Stephen King.

440
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Speaker 2: Over the break, I was reading Salem's Lot. Man, it's

441
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Speaker 2: a great novel from nineteen seventy five. Read it when

442
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Speaker 2: I was a kid, but read again over the break.

443
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Speaker 2: I mean it's huge, but it's four hundred third and

444
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Speaker 2: nine pages, so you know that he wasn't slacking around

445
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Speaker 2: at home. Although, to be fair, Stephen King writing his

446
00:21:02,493 --> 00:21:04,813
Speaker 2: books at home, he was consuming a whole lot of

447
00:21:04,813 --> 00:21:08,173
Speaker 2: cocaine and whiskey and can't remember huge parts at right,

448
00:21:08,453 --> 00:21:09,213
Speaker 2: huge parts of the box.

449
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Speaker 3: It certainly helps.

450
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he was pretty Cocaine and whiskey helped us,

451
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Speaker 2: helped his product of it.

452
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Speaker 3: But he was also very disciplined, wasn't He wasn't He

453
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Speaker 3: the one that said that he had to write at

454
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Speaker 3: this one page a day, and then once he started,

455
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Speaker 3: he kept going, so, well.

456
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Speaker 2: There's some pages of it. He should go back and

457
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Speaker 2: think about why I wrote those. But anyway, that's that's.

458
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Speaker 3: Another I had one hundred and eighty ten eighty as

459
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Speaker 3: the number to call lez. How are you this afternoon?

460
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Speaker 9: Yeah?

461
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Speaker 10: Good, thank you?

462
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Speaker 3: How are you good? So you want to talk about

463
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Speaker 3: working from home from a mum's point of view, is

464
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Speaker 3: that right?

465
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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I'm I'm actually retired. My kids are grown up. Both

467
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Speaker 12: of them work from home. My husband works at work,

468
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Speaker 12: but he can work from home, and probably three different scenarios.

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Speaker 13: One you.

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Speaker 12: One of the points that you made was you find

471
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Speaker 12: it better that you can communicate with people. With your workmates,

472
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Speaker 12: talk's a little bit more of an environment where you can,

473
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Speaker 12: you know, have lunch together, have checked together the past,

474
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Speaker 12: each other in the corridor or the other out of

475
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Speaker 12: the desk or whatever. As a as a mother at home,

476
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Speaker 12: I know you don't get paid as such, but if

477
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Speaker 12: you're a full time mum, you're running around after the

478
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Speaker 12: kids doing all that stuff, and you don't get that

479
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Speaker 12: social interaction. And that's that's that's one point I wanted

480
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Speaker 12: to make, and that's just something that your grin and Bearrett,

481
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Speaker 12: you suck it up.

482
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Speaker 14: I think.

483
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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the that's one of the

484
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Speaker 2: toughest parts of being a start home mum, isn't it.

485
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Speaker 2: The lack of adult interactions that you have. And you know,

486
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Speaker 2: I've experienced that that firsthand and with another people that

487
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Speaker 2: you know, come home from work and someone's only been

488
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Speaker 2: dealing with children from an entire day. That's that's very tough.

489
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you know, like your partner comes home and

491
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Speaker 12: they've had a whole day at the office and I'm

492
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Speaker 12: pretty happy or upbeat or have had a bad day,

493
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Speaker 12: but they don't get that you haven't had the interaction

494
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Speaker 12: and you don't want the s that comes home from

495
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Speaker 12: work either, you know what I mean.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's yeah, Well, that's one I'm calling a

497
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Speaker 3: little bit of bs on the people that say that

498
00:23:16,613 --> 00:23:19,292
Speaker 3: they are absolutely productive at working from home and they

499
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Speaker 3: don't need to interact with anybody. I think it's just

500
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Speaker 3: a human need to be able to socialize with other

501
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Speaker 3: people as human beings. You know, even people that go

502
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Speaker 3: and live in a log cabin for six months, they

503
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Speaker 3: get lonely. They want to come back and hang out

504
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Speaker 3: with people.

505
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Speaker 2: Don't you think it's interesting that the ultimate punishment in

506
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Speaker 2: prison is solitary confinement, right exactly, that it's not being worked.

507
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Speaker 2: A solitary confinement is the worst thing for humans. And

508
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Speaker 2: you know, I think to a certain extent, working from

509
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Speaker 2: home on yourself is a certain amount of solitary confinement.

510
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Speaker 2: And you might not see it happening to yourself, but

511
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Speaker 2: over time it is. I think it does affect people's moods.

512
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Speaker 2: And I think if you're not unleashing and just in

513
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Speaker 2: the workplace there's a lot of politics, and there's a

514
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Speaker 2: lot of toing and frying and jokes and jostling positioning,

515
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Speaker 2: you unleash a lot of energy that way. I think

516
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Speaker 2: that people that work from home start unleashing that energy

517
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Speaker 2: that they would unleash in the workplace on her partner.

518
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Speaker 12: There's also the other way they interacting when they do

519
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Speaker 12: come home, of them understanding and taking on that little

520
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Speaker 12: bit a load. But the other side of it is

521
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Speaker 12: all my girls are working. They work from home. They

522
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Speaker 12: work in various fields, one in banking and one in

523
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Speaker 12: she's to work in town, but only two days a

524
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Speaker 12: week because of she has got a a two year

525
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Speaker 12: old that needs that. You know, it goes to a

526
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Speaker 12: center and then you know, we do pick ups and

527
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Speaker 12: have them at home so that they can save up

528
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Speaker 12: a bit of money to pay their mortgage. So you've

529
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Speaker 12: got quite interesting discussion that you are having because I

530
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Speaker 12: have a niece who also works from home. She's a

531
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Speaker 12: scheduler for a petrol company. So she schedules nave fuel

532
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Speaker 12: and petrol you know, all up the North Island. She

533
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Speaker 12: starts at six in the morning and works through till

534
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Speaker 12: five in the evening. She works from home to her

535
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Speaker 12: mum lives with her who needs a bit of assistance.

536
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Speaker 12: And she is you know, and she can be sick

537
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Speaker 12: with COVID and she will be sitting at her desk working.

538
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Speaker 12: She is like a not so much a workaholic, but

539
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Speaker 12: she you know, she does a job very well and

540
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Speaker 12: she works best from home. And once again, like I

541
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Speaker 12: think Hailey said, for some people.

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Speaker 10: To travel by the time you sorry, Liz.

543
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Speaker 12: But for people to travel in from like Auckland and

544
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Speaker 12: Wellington into their workplace, if it's in the city and

545
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Speaker 12: you're out of town, you are wasting you know, a

546
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Speaker 12: couple of hours of productivity either way for our day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for cool. Thank you so much

548
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Speaker 2: for your caol. Liz. We just got to to move

549
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Speaker 2: move on quickly. But I appreciate what you're saying. I

550
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Speaker 2: guess that comes into the under the category of you

551
00:26:09,133 --> 00:26:12,813
Speaker 2: could say, harshly, your problems, not your work's problems. So

552
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Speaker 2: it may be convenient for you. You may be able

553
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Speaker 2: to do this stuff, and it's great, and you can.

554
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Speaker 2: You can you can look after your kids and all

555
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and that's fantastic. But if you've

556
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Speaker 2: got a job that's kind of that's a luxury, isn't

557
00:26:25,493 --> 00:26:27,973
Speaker 2: it too, as much as it's hard work, and you

558
00:26:28,013 --> 00:26:31,253
Speaker 2: feel for the people under those intense situations. You're asking

559
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Speaker 2: for your life to exist in your terms over your boss.

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Speaker 2: And I think in another part of it, you know,

561
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Speaker 2: you talk about scheduler and all the best, but if

562
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Speaker 2: you can I've said it before, if you can outsource

563
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Speaker 2: yourself from the office to home, then your office can

564
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Speaker 2: outsource your job to Mumbai here he was. If it

565
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to be done in the office, then there's

566
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Speaker 2: then there's people that can pay a lot less around

567
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Speaker 2: the world to do it.

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Speaker 3: Ye bang on Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

569
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Speaker 3: is the number to call. It's twenty five to two

570
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Speaker 3: back in a month.

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Speaker 15: You's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

572
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Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. Inflation is still under control,

573
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Speaker 15: sitting unchanged on two point two percent since September, but

574
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Speaker 15: economic certainty continues domestically and internationally. A largest bank, A

575
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Speaker 15: and Z is cutting some short term interest rates following

576
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Speaker 15: last week's moves by Westpac and ASB prices rose one

577
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Speaker 15: point four percent of the global dairy trade auction overnight,

578
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Speaker 15: with whole milt powder prices arry a climbing a five

579
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Speaker 15: percent and skin milt powder two at two unions accusing

580
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Speaker 15: the government of delaying the Fair Digital Media Bargaining Bill

581
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Speaker 15: as media face cuts. Herald and Newstalk SEDB owner enz

582
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Speaker 15: Me has told staff of a restructure proposal at a

583
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Speaker 15: cost of thirty eight news creation and production roles body shops.

584
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Speaker 15: New Zealand stores are closing after failing to sell.

585
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Speaker 2: They'll continue trading as they wind down.

586
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Speaker 15: The new Economic Growth Minister is pledging to go in

587
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Speaker 15: guns blazing on a new plan for growth with frequent

588
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Speaker 15: updates and plenty of engagement with innovators. How to get

589
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Speaker 15: kids device ready for the new school year without breaking

590
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Speaker 15: the bank. See this and more from the Back to

591
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Speaker 15: School series at Nzen Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eathan

592
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Speaker 15: Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

594
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Speaker 2: Ray Lean's getting some many great calls and texts. Then

595
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Speaker 2: nine two nine two is the text number. Oh, eight

596
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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number. This is

597
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Speaker 2: an interesting point here, and this tests me, I like

598
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Speaker 2: when questions test my logic. God, New Zealand has a

599
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Speaker 2: low birth rate with nobody left to pay boomer pensions,

600
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Speaker 2: so your solution seems to be to lock the remaining

601
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Speaker 2: working population into a strict nine to five at the office.

602
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Speaker 2: Makes a little sense, and more courage talented workers to

603
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Speaker 2: go overseas for longer. But that's the point. We do

604
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Speaker 2: need to be having more children in this country. We

605
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Speaker 2: need to be finding ways. So this sits in a

606
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Speaker 2: gray area for me, because I think it's better for

607
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Speaker 2: people to go to work, but I think it's better

608
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Speaker 2: for everyone if we have more children, and we currently

609
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Speaker 2: live in an economy that's very hard to have children,

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Speaker 2: you know, with what we're currently expected to do around work.

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Speaker 3: I agree, Yes, I agree with that. I mean the

612
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Speaker 3: reason I'm giggling is where you're taking this, is this gonna?

613
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Speaker 3: I mean, is it up to the employer to do

614
00:29:16,173 --> 00:29:18,853
Speaker 3: they need little rooms within the office to say, hey, we.

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Speaker 2: Need Lots of countries around the world are doing because

616
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Speaker 2: they've realized, you know, for the longest time, we had

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Speaker 2: all this hysteria that there was too many humans on

618
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Speaker 2: the planet, which turned out to be not true. And

619
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Speaker 2: the problem now, the biggest problem facing us now is

620
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Speaker 2: population decline, and that's a huge disasters. So there's a

621
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Speaker 2: lot of countries around the world that are doing everything

622
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Speaker 2: they can to make it possible for families to have

623
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Speaker 2: to bring up more more more than replace themselves, which

624
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Speaker 2: you know, I've had two kids I need to I

625
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Speaker 2: needed to have and I'm not doing the line's share

626
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Speaker 2: of the work when it comes to birthing them, et cetera.

627
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Speaker 2: But you know, to replace it a couple needs to

628
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Speaker 2: have three or four yeah, you know, but meant trying

629
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Speaker 2: to do that in the current economy, you know, and

630
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Speaker 2: and not having some work from home flexibility.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, would you advocate for having having a

632
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Speaker 3: rejig of of the working hours, so you're still doing

633
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Speaker 3: an eight hour day, but you kind of shift it

634
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Speaker 3: towards making it easier to maybe not have your kit

635
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Speaker 3: at childcare, or it makes it easier to drop them

636
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Speaker 3: off at school or pick them up at a certain time,

637
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Speaker 3: because that would encourage people to say, hey, it's not

638
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Speaker 3: so much of a task to be apparent in terms

639
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Speaker 3: of I've still got to go to work. We're still

640
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Speaker 3: going to have two incomes come into the household.

641
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Speaker 2: Yeah, either that or baby farms. Tradesmen cannot work from home,

642
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Speaker 2: nor can caregivers, hospitality workers. Do farmer sit on their

643
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Speaker 2: butts at home in front of the screen zooming regards Kristin,

644
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Speaker 2: I mean that's a good point. I mean, farmers technically

645
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Speaker 2: work from home, and they're the hardest workers in the country.

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Speaker 3: We certainly need them. Yeah, Josh, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: Hey boys, Hey maddie'd nice to see your abudding sociologists

649
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Speaker 16: there trying to crack those big issues, are you right?

650
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Speaker 2: Mate?

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Speaker 16: We all need three to four kids, you know, who's

652
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Speaker 16: going up again? Who's going to bathe and wash Matt

653
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Speaker 16: when he's paying eighty two or whatever. You're not going

654
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Speaker 16: to have enough enough people. But hey, working working from

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Speaker 16: home and office done a bit of both, you know,

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Speaker 16: but COVID actually we were solely mainly working from home,

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Speaker 16: so basically a lot of our work. If you wanted

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Speaker 16: a meeting, if you want to call a meeting, you could.

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Speaker 16: But it got kind of difficult because everyone was on autopilot,

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Speaker 16: you know. So you're like, are we having that meeting

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Speaker 16: on Friday? And then you might get half your team

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Speaker 16: saying yeah, we'll meet at the actual workplace on Friday,

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Speaker 16: and then two people would miss out.

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Speaker 17: So he'd be like, all right, well we'll.

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Speaker 16: Postpone the meeting and we'll do it next week. And

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Speaker 16: it's just like, oh great, so but.

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Speaker 2: No on Friday at four o'clock and then we'll move

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Speaker 2: it to the bar. And there was a bit of that.

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Speaker 16: It just gets harder because everybody starts to do their

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Speaker 16: own their own thing, I mean, within reason. But no,

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Speaker 16: I think I think the office workplace is most likely

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Speaker 16: more productive because I mean even for me, I'd get

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Speaker 16: frustrated because I didn't have a bringing proper scanner or

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Speaker 16: a proper printer at hard so you get your work

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Speaker 16: ninety five percent done, but there was something else. You

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Speaker 16: needed somebody to look at something or whatever, So you

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Speaker 16: have to kind of go in to work to meet

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Speaker 16: up with that person and to use the office equipment,

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Speaker 16: gets set up to do their job and you know,

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Speaker 16: reasonable enough coffee. We won't be too critical of it.

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Speaker 16: But it was free, so you know. And the other thing, Yeah,

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Speaker 16: like that lady was saying, isolation is not good. What

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Speaker 16: you don't want people doing is actually kind of even

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Speaker 16: creating their own little echo chamber. So that's what we

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Speaker 16: figured out. We had pockets of people that were communicating

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Speaker 16: well and pockets of groups of people that just weren't

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Speaker 16: communicating at all. So that that part of its stuff

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Speaker 16: called as well. You want to make sure everybody's still performing,

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Speaker 16: everyone's still bringing something to the table.

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Speaker 3: Yep, nicely said Josh, Thank you very much for giving

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Speaker 3: us a buzz.

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Speaker 18: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This text to says, if it's a government job or

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Speaker 2: a tax payer funded job, get your ass to the office.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs Ryan there, short and sharp and point, and that's

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Speaker 2: what Trump's saying exactly. Lots of alcoholics prefer to work

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Speaker 2: from home, says this text.

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Speaker 3: Are they productive?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I talked about Stephen King before he was

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Speaker 2: a terrible colic for a lot of great books. I

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Speaker 2: guess it depends on the job.

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Speaker 3: Loved his substances and wrote a lot of books. And

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Speaker 3: it is a quarter to two beg very shortly. O.

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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: to two. There's some great tips coming through on nine

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Speaker 3: two ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like this one. For example, you're talking crap. You

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Speaker 2: are generalizing that everyone that works is in the office

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Speaker 2: as radio people always seem to do. Yep, talking to you, Tyler,

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Speaker 2: your generalization when you see that everyone that works from

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Speaker 2: home and sees that more productives lie.

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Speaker 3: But carry on that text. What does he say next,

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Speaker 3: I'm a grumpy old buster. You go there, you go

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Speaker 3: and get.

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Speaker 2: Far more done from home, the workshop and a mobile

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Speaker 2: surface vehicle than at my dealership where the noises bloody

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Speaker 2: rocks radio stations. He probably Buddy Racket Blair and general,

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Speaker 2: interruptions are a pain. Yes see, I mean that's a

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Speaker 2: good point.

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Speaker 18: I do.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy the interruptions. Here's another text. I'm a farmer.

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Speaker 2: One of the dogs was made to work from home today,

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Speaker 2: left her in the kennel with an image of some sheep.

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Speaker 2: She was not up to the task. Today. Two others

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Speaker 2: went to the office and got so distracted by each

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Speaker 2: other we made the wrong hr decisions.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's there's the farmer's opinion. I think this is a

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Speaker 2: really important text. Yeah, really important, really interesting on nineteen

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Speaker 2: nine two. For a lot of industries, it shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: about eight hours a day, five days a week. The

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Speaker 2: focus needs to be on improving productivity and outputs so

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Speaker 2: workers can have greater flexibility to manage work, caring for

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Speaker 2: children and caring for aging parents. Businesses need to change

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Speaker 2: their mindset from time to actual output.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting one because yeah, I mean, I guess

742
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Speaker 2: part of the reason why you want people in the

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Speaker 2: office is to judge their output and their productivity and

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Speaker 2: you find it better. So a workplace just wants you

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Speaker 2: to get be productive and get what's done needs to

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Speaker 2: be done in a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: A lot more easier to mess and I think I think.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of a lot of employers have

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Speaker 2: the sneaking suspicion that people aren't as productive and that

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Speaker 2: they're self reporting. I mean, anyone that's been to have

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00:36:12,933 --> 00:36:15,053
Speaker 2: you've seen been to those you wouldn't have because you

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Speaker 2: have kids. But you go to school and the kids

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Speaker 2: do their parent teacher without the So you go to

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Speaker 2: school and the kids do the report on themselves, and

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Speaker 2: they go around and tell you what they're up to.

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Speaker 3: When did this start?

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Speaker 2: I call it a it's called a child lead review,

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Speaker 2: I think a child lead And so you go to

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Speaker 2: school and just talk to your kid that you can

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Speaker 2: talk to at home. I'm calling them a child lead whitewash,

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Speaker 2: and what's going on at the school.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. I had no idea they did that.

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Speaker 2: So if you're getting someone reporting on their own productivity,

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Speaker 2: then it's always going to be a golden report.

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Speaker 3: Isn't It's always going to be a plus.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got those metrics to actually you know,

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Speaker 2: measure metrics to measure productivity, then then probably that becomes

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Speaker 2: a lot more important than the actual hours.

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Speaker 3: And just quickly, isn't there something about being around your colleagues,

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Speaker 3: other workers, and if you see them working hard or

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Speaker 3: you're part of a collaborative effort, that makes you work

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Speaker 3: harder as well. That's what I worry about when you're

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Speaker 3: isolated and you've got a task to do and a

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Speaker 3: lot of humans. Maybe not you because you're raw dogging

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Speaker 3: at the moment, but for a lot of humans, any

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Speaker 3: distraction to take them away from that task, particularly if

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Speaker 3: they hate it, they will cling onto you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: a feeling about hungry, hungry, what's on the fridge, all

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Speaker 3: the vacuum cleaning needs to be done? Or quickly do

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Speaker 3: that and then get into the task.

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Speaker 2: Well, as I say, I keep going on. I'm watching

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Speaker 2: that fantastic show The Terror on TV and Z plus fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But they're having to pull some boats full of stuff

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Speaker 2: across some snow, and so it's a bunch a group

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Speaker 2: of people pulling together and working for each other. There's

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Speaker 2: probably something in that that if that if you're with

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Speaker 2: other you want you want them to succeed, and you

788
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Speaker 2: want to succeed together, and you become a pack and

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Speaker 2: you're all another movie reference, it's like Nemo. You're all

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Speaker 2: swimming in the same direction. Just keep swimming, Just keep swimming, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Pixar and youw it all along, whereas if you're working

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Speaker 2: from home, you're all in swimming in different directions, exactly

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Speaker 2: one hundred torturing more metaphors today, we're going to take

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Speaker 2: a few more calls very shortly than wrap this up.

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Speaker 3: It's nine to.

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Speaker 1: Two Matt Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty eight Matt and Tyler Afternoon with the Volvo

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Speaker 3: There be news talks there b six to two. John,

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Speaker 3: You don't believe in working from home?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't think it's very good really from the

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Speaker 10: security aspect. There's a couple of bosting Little Financial Advisor

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Speaker 10: and Halfway Choice. Dogs sat a bark and yet to leave,

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Speaker 10: and an assurance assurance company. Kids started trying and the

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Speaker 10: mother took quite a while to pacifying. Well, you know,

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Speaker 10: if you're fanning those types of companies, you don't expect

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Speaker 10: them to be you know, you just to start thinking

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Speaker 10: there's a goody still a real country.

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Speaker 3: When that happens, Yeah, I mean it's pretty embarrassing. To

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Speaker 3: say sorry. I got to end the meeting because they

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Speaker 3: talk's barking too loud. So I'm going to just go

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Speaker 3: to shut up the dog and I'll come back. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you don't get that on office.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how did you shut up? You didn't he

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Speaker 2: go around the back of the barn and put a

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Speaker 2: bullet and did it.

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Speaker 3: I have put it in the kinner with a picture

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Speaker 3: of a sheep.

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Speaker 10: By the way, Dave, that are reckons. We've reached top population.

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Speaker 10: He doesn't reckon we should breathe anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, went up and up, and then now the

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Speaker 2: UN is as predicting a big drop off coming pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you know, there's these areas of the

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Speaker 2: world that the population has grown a lot, but New Zealand, boy,

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Speaker 2: you look at the population growth in South Korea and Japan. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean trouble. In Japan, they're now selling more adult

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Speaker 2: diapers than child diapers and that says a lot.

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Speaker 10: Yea hey, but don't you reckon like in New Zealand,

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Speaker 10: like we make most of our money safe megrant culture

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Speaker 10: from cows and stuff like that, and they've ritually got

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Speaker 10: as many farms as we can. They're even down the

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Speaker 10: South Old. They've got farms down there taking water to

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Speaker 10: water them and get thor to day of water and

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Speaker 10: somebody else's day the next day of water. So they've

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Speaker 10: ritually got it fully fully worked out. Why don't we

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Speaker 10: just kick the population as it is, because you know,

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Speaker 10: if we need more people coming here are we're going

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Speaker 10: to have to make but we're going to have to export,

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Speaker 10: make more money from exporting.

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Speaker 2: The problems and the problem is the aging population because

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Speaker 2: because people moving out of the working stage of their

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Speaker 2: life into the non working stage of life, you need

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of people coming through that are younger

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Speaker 2: to keep the economy going. I mean, go back to Japan.

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Speaker 2: The average age of a farmer in Japan is seventy two,

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Speaker 2: you know, and that's a problem because you you know,

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Speaker 2: you generally you do some great work on the farm

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Speaker 2: between you know, about eighteen and I want to say

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Speaker 2: sixty then and then it's still farming, and then it

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Speaker 2: can get pretty hard. I think, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for you call John.

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Speaker 3: Cheers John. A couple of texts to wrap it up.

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Speaker 2: On nine two nine two raw dogging it Lol, I

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Speaker 2: just choked on some dirry ash. When you said that.

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Speaker 2: Tyler cheers from Chris. Yeah. Yeah, we'll be talking about

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Speaker 2: a different kind of raw dogging than you were talking

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Speaker 2: about there, Chris, cheez.

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Speaker 3: We'll explain all at three pm.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Just to finish off, nearly twenty percent of employed

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Speaker 2: adults in New Zealand work mostly from home. That was

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Speaker 2: from October last year.

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Speaker 3: Get back to work, stop I mucking around. Right after

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Speaker 3: the news, we're going to be talking about shifting the

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Speaker 3: summer holiday to fab good idea, bad idea. We're also

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Speaker 3: going to have a chat to Peter Dune. He tried

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Speaker 3: to push for this back in twenty eighteen, didn't quite

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Speaker 3: get it across the line. But we'll find out the

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Speaker 3: ins and outs very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for inspful and entertaining talk, It's Maddie

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Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC nighty on

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Speaker 1: News Talk SEV.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Seven past two. So the debates about whether to shift

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Speaker 3: the summer break later into the year has been renewed

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Speaker 3: to make the best of the beautiful weather we primarily

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Speaker 3: get in late jan and February. I mean, we've seen

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Speaker 3: it right now, aren't we met?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how often do you take your summer

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Speaker 2: break and you only get a little bit of holiday

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Speaker 2: year and it's rubbish because it's stuck around the end

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Speaker 2: of December and the first little bit of January, tumultuous

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Speaker 2: times of the year. Everyone knows best months in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand of February. Yeah, this comes from an article that

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Speaker 2: we read today Wellington in a good day later summer

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Speaker 2: break still an idea that's alive. People in Wellington know

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Speaker 2: this more than anyone.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely starting to get that sunshine now, the poor buggers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the difference in temperature from where we take

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Speaker 2: holidays now to there in February is almost two degrees

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Speaker 2: eighteen point seven to twenty point five, which doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: like a lot, but that's a big difference across what

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Speaker 2: kind of weather conditions you actually get.

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Speaker 3: Icky well, a man who kickstarted a campaign eight years ago,

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Speaker 3: back in twenty eighteen to better align the holiday period

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Speaker 3: to the summer weather by shifting it later into the

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Speaker 3: year is former MP Peter Dunn, who joins us now

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Speaker 3: get a Peter, Hello.

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Speaker 13: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Welcome to the show. So how would this

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Speaker 2: work around the Christmas break. Would we break for a

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Speaker 2: short Christmas break and then then go back to work

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Speaker 2: and then have some time off in February. Is that

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Speaker 2: how it worked?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 13: What would be my thinking that you'd have a sort

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Speaker 13: of between Christmas and New Year pretty much as we

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Speaker 13: do now, then everyone at schools and everyone else go

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Speaker 13: back in early January, serve out January, and then break

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Speaker 13: for a few weeks over February March before resuming the year.

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Speaker 13: I think that there were a lot of advantages. You've

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Speaker 13: already referred to the weather being more settled in that period,

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Speaker 13: and that's not just you know, it's easy to say

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Speaker 13: that this year when we've allows each something, but if

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Speaker 13: you look at the data over time, that's a pretty

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Speaker 13: consistent message. I think it's got a lot of other

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Speaker 13: advantages in terms of productivity. People not having to work

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Speaker 13: in the really hot, stifling month of the year, kids

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Speaker 13: not being stuck in stuffy classrooms and schools, smelling and

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Speaker 13: grumpy teachers headaches and not really want to deal with

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Speaker 13: them during that time of the year. The whole lot

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Speaker 13: of other things that I think we could more practically

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Speaker 13: achieve if we made a change from the alignment now

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Speaker 13: having said that it's far easier said than done. I

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Speaker 13: readily concede. But I think it's the sort of discussion

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Speaker 13: we should be up for having. And I note that

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Speaker 13: when it was raised back in twenty eighteen, the then

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Speaker 13: Minister of Education, a man by the name of Christopher Hopkins,

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Speaker 13: said that he wasn't necessarily opposed to the idea, so

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Speaker 13: maybe he could be a champion for it. Who knows.

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Speaker 2: So how would this work though, because right now you

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Speaker 2: know so would it be Would it make Christmas more

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Speaker 2: like Easter where there's a couple of days off.

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Speaker 13: Probably along most times. I think you'd probably have Christmas,

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Speaker 13: Christmas Eve to New Year as a holiday period and

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Speaker 13: then people come back i'd like to do after the

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Speaker 13: Yaster break. I think the other thing that's important now,

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Speaker 13: and it's even more relevant than it was when the

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Speaker 13: idea was first raised, is that people's work patterns have changed.

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Speaker 13: Considered it as much more flexibility in what they do,

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Speaker 13: so this could be eased in quite gently. Not everyone

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Speaker 13: has to cram their holiday period as they used to

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Speaker 13: into that period at the start of January. They've got

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Speaker 13: a bit more flexibility and there could be more freedom.

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Speaker 13: And already have seen people spreading out their holidays and

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Speaker 13: tackling at different times of the year, so I think

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Speaker 13: this could be accommodat to reasonably easily.

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Speaker 3: So the idea would be Peter that if you can

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Speaker 3: start with the school holiday, shift those a little bit

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Speaker 3: later into February, the hope is that the rest of

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Speaker 3: society will follow.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, And I don't think it would, as I say,

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Speaker 13: be that difficult to challenge. I don't think for schools

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Speaker 13: it's a huge problem because I still get the same

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Speaker 13: number of days. I'd just be aligned in a different

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Speaker 13: way throughout the course of the year and they'd still

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Speaker 13: be well they go through December into January rather than

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Speaker 13: finishing a little bit earlier. Interestingly enough, when I raised

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Speaker 13: all those years ago, the biggest objection came from the

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Speaker 13: tourists in New zealandport From what I regarded is the

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Speaker 13: most peculiar of reasons. They said, oh, no, you can't

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Speaker 13: do this. Why because February and March of the peak

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Speaker 13: months for tourists coming to New Zealand, and if you

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Speaker 13: had everyone else on holiday at the same time, we

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Speaker 13: should simply wouldn't be able to cope. And the tourists

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Speaker 13: wouldn't come anymore because they wouldn't be able to be accommodated.

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Speaker 13: It seems to me that this is probably a case

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Speaker 13: when New Zealander's interests should come a little bit ahead

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Speaker 13: of the tourists if the weather's best at that time

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Speaker 13: of the year. And what you're really saying is New

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Speaker 13: Zealanders can't enjoy it. Can I like it.

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Speaker 2: As most people to pick cherries and you have the export,

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Speaker 2: but the rest of the rubbish for us.

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Speaker 13: To be told, I know, we can't do this because

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Speaker 13: it will affect the tourists. I just thought it was

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Speaker 13: a bit back to front.

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Speaker 2: I guess the big stumbling point here is around productivity

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Speaker 2: is Jan one, So whatever happens, you have to work

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Speaker 2: it around that that people aren't at work on Jan one,

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Speaker 2: because if they are, they're not going to do any work.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, well that's right. I mean there will be Look,

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Speaker 13: there will be if you would if you was a

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Speaker 13: move down this path, there would have to be adjustments made. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: there would be little challenges. It wouldn't It couldn't be

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Speaker 13: sort of you know. My favorite example is when they

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Speaker 13: changed in Sweden from driving on the right side of

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Speaker 13: the right no, the left side of the head to

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Speaker 13: the right, and they did it overnight chaos ensued. You

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Speaker 13: couldn't do that sort of thing, but but you could

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Speaker 13: phase it in and you need to get the groups

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Speaker 13: on side. And I think that the more people start

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Speaker 13: to think about it and just talk about it, the

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Speaker 13: more it appeals as an idea. And if it appeals,

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Speaker 13: then why not have a crack at trying to do it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, I think there's something in it and

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Speaker 2: as you say, and got on you for pointing that

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Speaker 2: out complex, but as an idea, I believe it's it's

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Speaker 2: definitely worth trying to beat out and trying to get

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Speaker 2: more talk about it. So that's what we'll do over

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Speaker 2: the next hour. One hundred eighty ten eighty or nine

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Speaker 2: two nine two is the text number. What do you

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Speaker 2: think about this? I'm trying to shift the holidays into February.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter Dunn, thank you very much for having to

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Speaker 3: chat with us. Keen to hear from you our lovely listeners.

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Speaker 9: Though.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two

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Speaker 3: is the text number. Thirteen past two.

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Speaker 1: Back in the month, Wow, your new home of afternoon Talk,

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Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn

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Speaker 1: every journey into something special. Call oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: ten eighty news talks'd be? News talks ed be? Should

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Speaker 1: we be looking to move the summer holidays to February.

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Speaker 1: It was an idea first floated by Peter dunback in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. It's had renewed interest this year, particularly on

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Speaker 1: the back of a pretty poor January with a wye

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Speaker 1: for Wellington. Good idea or crazy silly ideas?

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Speaker 2: This is texta on nine two ninety two, unless Oz

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Speaker 2: does it too. We've just had eight grandchildren together from

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Speaker 2: both sides of Tasman. This would ruin those opportunities of

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Speaker 2: making memories from Joanne, so not great for you. But

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Speaker 2: not everyone has grandchildren in Australia, so you've got to

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Speaker 2: think about everyone, don't we Exactly not a novel idea,

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Speaker 2: says Terry. Most of you take a short break for

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Speaker 2: Christmas year, then a longer break in August. I mean

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Speaker 2: a lot of That's the reason why they do that

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Speaker 2: is because it's freezing cold around Christmas and Christmas just

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Speaker 2: I mean, Christmas happens in the middle of summer, and

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Speaker 2: I've got questions about productivity in this country, about where

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Speaker 2: Christmas lands and where summer lands, and we basically shut

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Speaker 2: down on December one, and it's hard to get a

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Speaker 2: meeting with anyone till the end of January.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. O eight one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call, Luke. What do you

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Speaker 3: reckon about this idea?

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Speaker 19: Oh fella, sorry, I'm just going through a bad patch

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Speaker 19: of a reception. But I'll be house and about three sticking.

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Speaker 2: Three two one, look your back and sounding beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so good, Crystal.

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Speaker 2: That's some of the best reception we've had in weeks,

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Speaker 2: beautiful days for two days.

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Speaker 19: When I talking about what what my thought was was,

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Speaker 19: imagine the imagine like how long it's going to take

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Speaker 19: us to get out of first gear if we have

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Speaker 19: a gap between Christmas and then and then we then

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Speaker 19: we go we'll just we'll just coast along here, we'll

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Speaker 19: hit the clutch and we'll roll through the.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. But but but as I

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Speaker 2: was saying just before, I think we've already got a

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Speaker 2: problem around there. I think people put it in neutral

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Speaker 2: and coast down.

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Speaker 3: Hell.

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Speaker 2: From about December one and then they don't. They don't

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Speaker 2: get back into gear until late jan.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, like, yeah, exactly some other some other people like

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Speaker 19: not naming anyone know other the people I think of

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Speaker 19: off the top of my head that you would, you guys,

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Speaker 19: would have worked up a path or anything. But I

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Speaker 19: don't know. I don't even know if they are coming

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Speaker 19: back to well.

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Speaker 2: We're not talking about Mike Costing. Are he? Where is he?

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Speaker 3: Who is he?

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Speaker 2: Where is he?

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Speaker 18: Is he?

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Speaker 12: Not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I really liked his style. Yeah, hopefully he comes back there.

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Speaker 2: We are taking a month off and then judging someone

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Speaker 2: else slightly.

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Speaker 19: Someone's got to work, someone's got to get the work done.

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Speaker 19: And I think we can do it. We don't have

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Speaker 19: to go to fury. And you know what will happen

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Speaker 19: whether we're just absolutely itself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. The first go back, the first

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Speaker 2: time you do it, it'll be great weather in late

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Speaker 2: to see him, but.

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Speaker 3: In January and everyone will come to Peter down.

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Speaker 2: And then there'll be terrible again. People have pitchforks at Peter.

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Speaker 19: People are ringing up going see I told you I

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Speaker 19: remember good too good to be good to be back

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Speaker 19: on the radio waves, you guys and looking forward to

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Speaker 19: a great year.

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Speaker 3: You're a good man to Luke.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for you cool, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I'll had one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts. This person thinks

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Speaker 3: it's a great idea good proposal. Tourism opposition is ridiculous.

1087
00:51:11,493 --> 00:51:14,573
Speaker 3: In the Northern Hemisphere. Annual holidays are the same as

1088
00:51:14,653 --> 00:51:16,333
Speaker 3: the height of the tourist season.

1089
00:51:16,613 --> 00:51:19,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess you know, as Peter dun said,

1090
00:51:19,053 --> 00:51:21,133
Speaker 2: you could only really move the school holidays, couldn't you.

1091
00:51:21,613 --> 00:51:26,053
Speaker 2: But I imagine that tourism operators would roster people on

1092
00:51:26,613 --> 00:51:27,853
Speaker 2: when when they're busy.

1093
00:51:28,053 --> 00:51:28,292
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1094
00:51:28,693 --> 00:51:30,813
Speaker 3: We'll figure out those details down the track. I mean,

1095
00:51:30,893 --> 00:51:33,053
Speaker 3: you know, let's we'll start it and give it a

1096
00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:35,413
Speaker 3: trial and once you get the kids taking the school

1097
00:51:35,413 --> 00:51:38,013
Speaker 3: holidays and feb everyone will follow. I think it's worth

1098
00:51:38,013 --> 00:51:38,373
Speaker 3: a shot.

1099
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:41,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean you take you know Auckland Anniversary right, Yeah,

1100
00:51:42,053 --> 00:51:43,453
Speaker 2: on the twenty ninth of jam.

1101
00:51:43,373 --> 00:51:45,333
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that. We're going to work that day.

1102
00:51:45,333 --> 00:51:46,053
Speaker 2: We work that day.

1103
00:51:46,533 --> 00:51:48,373
Speaker 3: How did that happen? Why don't have to wear christ

1104
00:51:48,413 --> 00:51:49,373
Speaker 3: Church Anniversary?

1105
00:51:49,413 --> 00:51:52,053
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, mate, It's not just about Auckland.

1106
00:51:52,053 --> 00:51:54,533
Speaker 2: You're you're here since you've moved from christ Church up here,

1107
00:51:54,573 --> 00:51:57,093
Speaker 2: you don't think anything exists south of the bomb base.

1108
00:51:57,533 --> 00:51:59,453
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm I'm going to be here on

1109
00:51:59,533 --> 00:52:03,373
Speaker 2: here in Auckland and state for in, for cargo, for Dunedin,

1110
00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:07,613
Speaker 2: for christ Church, for your Nelson's, for your Wellington's.

1111
00:52:07,693 --> 00:52:10,213
Speaker 3: You know you're going to get get a bit of contract.

1112
00:52:11,213 --> 00:52:13,212
Speaker 3: Eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's twenty

1113
00:52:13,253 --> 00:52:13,652
Speaker 3: pars two.

1114
00:52:13,693 --> 00:52:22,893
Speaker 20: Back in the month, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh,

1115
00:52:22,973 --> 00:52:26,493
Speaker 20: eight hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB News

1116
00:52:26,733 --> 00:52:27,493
Speaker 20: talks ed.

1117
00:52:28,053 --> 00:52:29,333
Speaker 2: In the studio, I've knocked my coffee over.

1118
00:52:29,453 --> 00:52:31,573
Speaker 3: I was just going to let that fly over the heads,

1119
00:52:31,773 --> 00:52:34,213
Speaker 3: so to speak. But yeah, this coffee. Oh no, the

1120
00:52:34,213 --> 00:52:37,133
Speaker 3: bosses are going to come in here now. Andrew Entry's

1121
00:52:37,213 --> 00:52:39,373
Speaker 3: up there. It's all good.

1122
00:52:39,493 --> 00:52:41,853
Speaker 2: No, but look what I did there. See, I'm a

1123
00:52:41,893 --> 00:52:44,653
Speaker 2: professional broadcaster with a many years experience, and I spilled

1124
00:52:44,653 --> 00:52:47,173
Speaker 2: my coffee away from the electronics. Yeah, you know, like

1125
00:52:47,693 --> 00:52:50,093
Speaker 2: a new b like Yield, have spilled it into the controls.

1126
00:52:50,133 --> 00:52:52,293
Speaker 3: You've done this many times before, is what you're saying.

1127
00:52:52,733 --> 00:52:56,013
Speaker 2: Always spill away from the from from the bits where

1128
00:52:56,013 --> 00:52:57,853
Speaker 2: things get plugged down and all the buttons and stuff.

1129
00:52:57,933 --> 00:53:00,212
Speaker 3: Yeah, technology will be very happy to hear that. See,

1130
00:53:00,253 --> 00:53:03,212
Speaker 3: if we shifted the summer holidays to late jan and fibb,

1131
00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:04,453
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have done that. You would have been on

1132
00:53:04,453 --> 00:53:06,613
Speaker 3: a holiday right now on the beach saying, isn't the

1133
00:53:06,613 --> 00:53:09,613
Speaker 3: weather lovely? For eight ten eighty? Has a number to

1134
00:53:09,613 --> 00:53:10,653
Speaker 3: call nineteen nine till.

1135
00:53:10,733 --> 00:53:13,253
Speaker 2: Kay, we're talking about shifting the holidays to February for

1136
00:53:13,293 --> 00:53:15,692
Speaker 2: the better weather. Is it possible? Is a ridiculous idea?

1137
00:53:15,733 --> 00:53:18,453
Speaker 2: Peter dun't thinks it's a good idea. And this person

1138
00:53:18,493 --> 00:53:20,933
Speaker 2: that's written this article says, and a lot of people

1139
00:53:20,933 --> 00:53:23,172
Speaker 2: in Wellington would love to be holiday in February rather

1140
00:53:23,173 --> 00:53:27,333
Speaker 2: than a rubbish late December January weather, no change the jades.

1141
00:53:27,453 --> 00:53:29,533
Speaker 2: I enjoy the time in fair March when everyone is

1142
00:53:29,533 --> 00:53:31,413
Speaker 2: back at work. Yeah, this is a sentiment a lot

1143
00:53:31,453 --> 00:53:33,613
Speaker 2: of people are getting. Is that the people that holiday

1144
00:53:34,213 --> 00:53:38,133
Speaker 2: in February, they work it out. Thank you, Andrew Rushing

1145
00:53:38,293 --> 00:53:39,533
Speaker 2: now producers Russian.

1146
00:53:40,013 --> 00:53:44,293
Speaker 3: Mess, I can validate that there's nothing there. And Andrew's

1147
00:53:44,333 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 3: doing the hard yards, folks, what a frecking mess.

1148
00:53:46,413 --> 00:53:50,173
Speaker 2: Thanks mate, but you've got to say as a producer,

1149
00:53:50,213 --> 00:53:53,773
Speaker 2: that's a it's a professional, it's a professional spill away

1150
00:53:53,773 --> 00:53:54,252
Speaker 2: from the gear.

1151
00:53:54,293 --> 00:53:58,253
Speaker 3: He's happy to do it, thank you very much. Indeed,

1152
00:53:58,493 --> 00:53:59,493
Speaker 3: how are you this afternoon?

1153
00:54:00,813 --> 00:54:04,893
Speaker 14: Yeah? Good our guys, And look again for the idea,

1154
00:54:05,493 --> 00:54:07,773
Speaker 14: I think I think we're too integrated with Australia in

1155
00:54:07,853 --> 00:54:11,813
Speaker 14: many ways. We've got so many of us as as

1156
00:54:11,893 --> 00:54:16,933
Speaker 14: businesses or or our heads are in Australia, our kids

1157
00:54:17,013 --> 00:54:21,013
Speaker 14: are in Australia there and that that time when that

1158
00:54:21,293 --> 00:54:24,613
Speaker 14: one it's at one time when we act their time

1159
00:54:24,653 --> 00:54:29,373
Speaker 14: off from the Bosters and everything else to do. So yeah,

1160
00:54:29,453 --> 00:54:31,813
Speaker 14: I'm not with I'm not with the idea. The other

1161
00:54:31,893 --> 00:54:35,773
Speaker 14: thing is that if you're going to move Gannery, every

1162
00:54:35,853 --> 00:54:38,973
Speaker 14: ye have to move all the holidays and that includes

1163
00:54:39,053 --> 00:54:45,133
Speaker 14: midyear break and the whole lot can be mesty.

1164
00:54:45,813 --> 00:54:48,533
Speaker 2: You'd be taking away White Tongue Day as a holiday

1165
00:54:48,733 --> 00:54:51,053
Speaker 2: as well, wouldn't you if you've got February off anyway.

1166
00:54:50,813 --> 00:54:52,453
Speaker 3: A good point. I didn't think about that. I do

1167
00:54:52,613 --> 00:54:53,613
Speaker 3: enjoy getting that holiday.

1168
00:54:54,693 --> 00:54:58,173
Speaker 14: On the other thing is that you know, and that

1169
00:54:58,333 --> 00:55:00,773
Speaker 14: was pretty must of all on Warrington. The weather, but

1170
00:55:00,853 --> 00:55:03,533
Speaker 14: it hasn't been too bad up north and for the

1171
00:55:03,653 --> 00:55:07,133
Speaker 14: last ten years. I don't remember a bad hot a

1172
00:55:07,213 --> 00:55:09,652
Speaker 14: bad dummer. Every Stomer's been really good.

1173
00:55:10,093 --> 00:55:15,973
Speaker 2: Where about saying oh yeah yeah the winter. I mean

1174
00:55:16,013 --> 00:55:17,853
Speaker 2: I spent part of the holidays in Topor and the

1175
00:55:17,853 --> 00:55:20,333
Speaker 2: weather was not great, to be honest, even though I

1176
00:55:20,413 --> 00:55:22,533
Speaker 2: love top and I'm going down again this weekend because

1177
00:55:22,533 --> 00:55:24,253
Speaker 2: i love the place so much. But then when I

1178
00:55:24,333 --> 00:55:26,973
Speaker 2: went up north, amazing and you know, you know it's

1179
00:55:27,693 --> 00:55:31,253
Speaker 2: in fung and boy boy, they just had weeks of

1180
00:55:31,253 --> 00:55:33,493
Speaker 2: beautiful weather. So does that what does that say? People

1181
00:55:33,533 --> 00:55:37,973
Speaker 2: holiday in the wrong place? Move north, Move out of Wellington. Yeah,

1182
00:55:38,293 --> 00:55:41,613
Speaker 2: come up here. It's lovely up here, Dan, Thank you

1183
00:55:41,693 --> 00:55:43,293
Speaker 2: very much mate. Well, I've just got to say I

1184
00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:47,652
Speaker 2: always envied the colleagues who decided to try and work

1185
00:55:47,693 --> 00:55:50,053
Speaker 2: through if they could. They worked through over Chris Mass

1186
00:55:50,053 --> 00:55:50,893
Speaker 2: and they worked through.

1187
00:55:50,773 --> 00:55:53,893
Speaker 3: Early jan and then they took a massive holiday in

1188
00:55:54,013 --> 00:55:55,733
Speaker 3: fib And I always looked at them and say, you

1189
00:55:55,853 --> 00:55:59,213
Speaker 3: smart buggers, You've nailed it because not only are you

1190
00:55:59,213 --> 00:56:01,893
Speaker 3: getting better weather, you were going to beaches with nobody

1191
00:56:01,933 --> 00:56:03,692
Speaker 3: on them because everybody else is back to work.

1192
00:56:03,773 --> 00:56:06,213
Speaker 2: There's always that smart person in any of our office

1193
00:56:06,413 --> 00:56:08,652
Speaker 2: that does the math at the start of the weird Yeah,

1194
00:56:08,693 --> 00:56:11,453
Speaker 2: and they managed to take about three strategic days off

1195
00:56:11,493 --> 00:56:14,253
Speaker 2: and get it and appear to have about two months

1196
00:56:14,253 --> 00:56:15,133
Speaker 2: of holiday for it.

1197
00:56:15,253 --> 00:56:18,413
Speaker 3: I hate those people, mainly because I'm way down, you know.

1198
00:56:18,453 --> 00:56:20,453
Speaker 3: But by the time I think of it, there's already

1199
00:56:20,453 --> 00:56:22,133
Speaker 3: twelve people that have asked for that and say no,

1200
00:56:22,333 --> 00:56:24,772
Speaker 3: there's no way, and hell tighter, you're getting those days off.

1201
00:56:24,973 --> 00:56:27,333
Speaker 3: What is the best strategy. I've always thought about that.

1202
00:56:27,413 --> 00:56:30,213
Speaker 3: I mean, like, granted, I get I think over Easter,

1203
00:56:30,653 --> 00:56:32,813
Speaker 3: you can get three days off and you'll leave and

1204
00:56:32,813 --> 00:56:34,893
Speaker 3: you'll get ten days in a row. That's pretty good.

1205
00:56:34,973 --> 00:56:36,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to you want to have a holiday

1206
00:56:36,453 --> 00:56:38,293
Speaker 2: beautiful mind. You want to know one of those people

1207
00:56:38,293 --> 00:56:40,533
Speaker 2: that just can work out all the stats on it.

1208
00:56:41,013 --> 00:56:42,652
Speaker 2: Of course, you know, I'm already onto it with the

1209
00:56:42,693 --> 00:56:46,292
Speaker 2: Friday telling you day. But that's a that's a train

1210
00:56:46,333 --> 00:56:48,373
Speaker 2: that you've missed. All Right, what are we going here?

1211
00:56:48,413 --> 00:56:49,413
Speaker 2: Let's go to a cool shall we?

1212
00:56:49,533 --> 00:56:51,813
Speaker 3: Yep, let's go to Linda. How are you?

1213
00:56:52,933 --> 00:56:55,573
Speaker 21: Yeah? When I was younger, my dad worked for the

1214
00:56:55,613 --> 00:56:59,013
Speaker 21: council and we always went away in the last two

1215
00:56:59,053 --> 00:57:01,333
Speaker 21: weeks of January, and a lot of people were actually

1216
00:57:01,333 --> 00:57:04,133
Speaker 21: coming back. So by the time we were bored with

1217
00:57:04,173 --> 00:57:06,733
Speaker 21: our Christmas presents, it was time to go around holiday.

1218
00:57:06,773 --> 00:57:10,453
Speaker 21: And then we come back from holiday and to school.

1219
00:57:11,053 --> 00:57:12,253
Speaker 2: So what did your dad have to do for the

1220
00:57:12,293 --> 00:57:15,093
Speaker 2: counsel He had to be around for essential services, did he?

1221
00:57:15,613 --> 00:57:18,133
Speaker 21: Yeah, well, he worked through because there's a lot of

1222
00:57:18,133 --> 00:57:21,573
Speaker 21: people wanted time off. He always worked through and then

1223
00:57:22,293 --> 00:57:26,493
Speaker 21: when they had and then they actually when they came back,

1224
00:57:26,613 --> 00:57:29,933
Speaker 21: he had his holiday, so we always had ours in

1225
00:57:29,973 --> 00:57:31,453
Speaker 21: the last two weeks in January.

1226
00:57:31,613 --> 00:57:33,853
Speaker 2: That's a good spot for it. Really, did your dad work?

1227
00:57:33,933 --> 00:57:37,093
Speaker 2: Your dad didn't work Christmas Day though, did he? He

1228
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:38,453
Speaker 2: didn't work Christmas Day though, did he?

1229
00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:39,613
Speaker 7: No?

1230
00:57:39,613 --> 00:57:41,693
Speaker 21: No, no, no, no, I didn't work the stacks.

1231
00:57:41,773 --> 00:57:45,573
Speaker 2: Yep, good man, they said.

1232
00:57:45,373 --> 00:57:47,693
Speaker 21: The stacks. And also when you're working through and just

1233
00:57:47,733 --> 00:57:50,453
Speaker 21: getting the stack, you're working short weeks anyway.

1234
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:53,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So this idea as a whole land. I mean,

1235
00:57:53,573 --> 00:57:56,053
Speaker 3: your dad was obviously very clever and that worked a treat.

1236
00:57:56,093 --> 00:57:58,973
Speaker 3: But this idea of shifting the starting off with the

1237
00:57:58,973 --> 00:58:01,733
Speaker 3: school holidays to feb and hopefully everyone ouse follows, does

1238
00:58:01,733 --> 00:58:03,853
Speaker 3: that make some sense to use some logic?

1239
00:58:04,733 --> 00:58:07,253
Speaker 21: I think it will be harder shifting the schools.

1240
00:58:07,573 --> 00:58:09,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's as this Texas is on nine two

1241
00:58:09,733 --> 00:58:12,133
Speaker 2: nine two. Apologies for the language, Lindo, but this is

1242
00:58:12,133 --> 00:58:13,853
Speaker 2: when the text are not for me. What a load

1243
00:58:13,893 --> 00:58:17,093
Speaker 2: of shite, you idiots never going to change the school year? Now,

1244
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:20,053
Speaker 2: that's kind of jumping to the end of the argument.

1245
00:58:20,093 --> 00:58:23,213
Speaker 2: We're saying, can you can you change the school Actually.

1246
00:58:23,373 --> 00:58:26,293
Speaker 21: I've actually felt for the campus because I'm in christ Y,

1247
00:58:26,333 --> 00:58:28,293
Speaker 21: which I've actually felt for the campus here this year

1248
00:58:28,333 --> 00:58:32,053
Speaker 21: because the bitess just settled down. Now it's been crack yeah,

1249
00:58:32,733 --> 00:58:36,253
Speaker 21: old and windy, and we've hardly got even out of

1250
00:58:36,293 --> 00:58:39,333
Speaker 21: the high teens. Yeah, so up until now.

1251
00:58:39,613 --> 00:58:41,653
Speaker 2: Well further to our last caller though, I was camping

1252
00:58:41,733 --> 00:58:44,893
Speaker 2: up north and it was absolutely beautiful in my inflatable

1253
00:58:44,973 --> 00:58:46,093
Speaker 2: inflatable z Empire tent.

1254
00:58:46,373 --> 00:58:49,373
Speaker 3: That's a beautiful tent as well, Linda, Thank you very much,

1255
00:58:49,413 --> 00:58:51,293
Speaker 3: really appreciate your phone called. Oh eight hundred and eighty

1256
00:58:51,413 --> 00:58:53,173
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Love to you

1257
00:58:53,173 --> 00:58:55,773
Speaker 3: your thoughts about this idea of shifting the summer by

1258
00:58:56,093 --> 00:58:59,253
Speaker 3: break to February. Just on that Texter who said it

1259
00:58:59,253 --> 00:59:01,453
Speaker 3: pretty bluntly that there's no way and how we're going

1260
00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:03,733
Speaker 3: to shift these school holidays. Why not?

1261
00:59:04,013 --> 00:59:05,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not someone for we can?

1262
00:59:05,853 --> 00:59:07,413
Speaker 3: Well, well, the government decided them.

1263
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:10,013
Speaker 2: Historically back in the day in New Zealand they had

1264
00:59:10,053 --> 00:59:12,893
Speaker 2: that sum holiday as a long break. In some countries

1265
00:59:12,893 --> 00:59:15,333
Speaker 2: don't have nearly as long breaks for the schools as

1266
00:59:15,373 --> 00:59:18,813
Speaker 2: we do. But that was because kids needed to go

1267
00:59:18,853 --> 00:59:20,693
Speaker 2: back and work on the farm, so they needed they

1268
00:59:20,693 --> 00:59:25,213
Speaker 2: needed man hours and child hours and on the on

1269
00:59:25,253 --> 00:59:27,773
Speaker 2: the farm. So that's why our holidays are there. And

1270
00:59:27,813 --> 00:59:29,653
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you've looked around, I'm not seeing

1271
00:59:29,693 --> 00:59:31,653
Speaker 2: too many kids, you know, running a tractor.

1272
00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:33,853
Speaker 3: It's a lost Get them back on the farm. Yeah,

1273
00:59:34,093 --> 00:59:36,493
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1274
00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:39,933
Speaker 3: Nine two nineties the text number. It is ha PAS two.

1275
00:59:42,893 --> 00:59:43,533
Speaker 2: Jus talks.

1276
00:59:43,573 --> 00:59:47,053
Speaker 15: It'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble

1277
00:59:47,093 --> 00:59:51,293
Speaker 15: with a blue bubble. The Finance Minister claims today's inflation figures,

1278
00:59:51,493 --> 00:59:55,573
Speaker 15: unchanged since September on two point two percent, shows government

1279
00:59:55,613 --> 00:59:59,893
Speaker 15: workers flowing through to people's pockets. The US President is

1280
00:59:59,973 --> 01:00:03,373
Speaker 15: already having an effect on our dairy industry, with uncertainty

1281
01:00:03,413 --> 01:00:07,733
Speaker 15: around US tariffs driving people to our market. Prices rose

1282
01:00:07,773 --> 01:00:10,133
Speaker 15: one point four two percent at the Global Dairy Trade

1283
01:00:10,173 --> 01:00:15,253
Speaker 15: Auction overnight, and the US isn't appearing that united over

1284
01:00:15,293 --> 01:00:18,853
Speaker 15: moves by the new president. Twenty four states are challenging

1285
01:00:18,893 --> 01:00:22,853
Speaker 15: Donald Trump's plan to end birthright citizenship, in many faring

1286
01:00:22,893 --> 01:00:27,293
Speaker 15: for the justice system after his sweeping pardons of convicted rioters.

1287
01:00:28,253 --> 01:00:31,813
Speaker 15: Here we body shops are in voluntary administration and will

1288
01:00:31,813 --> 01:00:35,733
Speaker 15: still trade as it winds down. It employs about seventy people.

1289
01:00:36,773 --> 01:00:39,053
Speaker 15: A truck set the side of the bridge over Hawks

1290
01:00:39,053 --> 01:00:42,813
Speaker 15: Bay's mung Ao Nuku Stream on State Highway five. It

1291
01:00:42,853 --> 01:00:46,853
Speaker 15: could be closed for several hours. Former Prime Minister Dangs

1292
01:00:46,853 --> 01:00:50,093
Speaker 15: and Radoun's book A Different Kind of Power is due

1293
01:00:50,133 --> 01:00:54,053
Speaker 15: out in June. Richard Preble on why personal choice should

1294
01:00:54,053 --> 01:00:56,813
Speaker 15: be protected at all costs. You can read the full

1295
01:00:56,853 --> 01:00:59,693
Speaker 15: column at enzet Hera or Premium. Back to Matt Eath

1296
01:00:59,733 --> 01:01:01,053
Speaker 15: and Tyler Adams.

1297
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. We're talking about the idea

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Speaker 3: of shifting the summer break later in the year to

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01:01:05,773 --> 01:01:08,613
Speaker 3: make the most of the better weather we primarily get

1300
01:01:08,653 --> 01:01:12,413
Speaker 3: in February. In twenty eighteen, Peter Dunn, former MP KICK

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01:01:12,493 --> 01:01:15,133
Speaker 3: started a campaign to better align the holiday period with

1302
01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:18,413
Speaker 3: the summer weather by shifting it later into February. He

1303
01:01:19,013 --> 01:01:22,773
Speaker 3: started that petition which got several thousand signatures but kind

1304
01:01:22,773 --> 01:01:24,893
Speaker 3: of died a bit of a death and never went anywhere.

1305
01:01:24,973 --> 01:01:26,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, but someone's trying to start it up in the

1306
01:01:26,413 --> 01:01:30,253
Speaker 2: paper today. Yeah, Andlington on a good day, late summer break.

1307
01:01:30,373 --> 01:01:33,813
Speaker 2: Still an idea that's alive. It's a good article if

1308
01:01:33,853 --> 01:01:35,813
Speaker 2: you want to read it. So what are your thoughts

1309
01:01:35,853 --> 01:01:38,253
Speaker 2: interesting concept to shift the break? Wondering if Australia looking

1310
01:01:38,293 --> 01:01:39,973
Speaker 2: at it as well. Lots of companies operate in New

1311
01:01:40,013 --> 01:01:42,293
Speaker 2: Zealand and Australia. We've had that point from a couple

1312
01:01:42,293 --> 01:01:44,093
Speaker 2: of people and I think that's actually a really good one.

1313
01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:48,013
Speaker 2: And as is always the case on talk back on

1314
01:01:48,093 --> 01:01:50,613
Speaker 2: news talks, he'd be I come up with an iron

1315
01:01:50,693 --> 01:01:54,093
Speaker 2: cloud idea and then someone comes through with the reason

1316
01:01:54,093 --> 01:01:56,133
Speaker 2: that makes it difficult, And that is true. I mean,

1317
01:01:56,173 --> 01:01:58,773
Speaker 2: so many head officers in Australia and you know, New

1318
01:01:58,893 --> 01:02:02,733
Speaker 2: Zealand's got a massive productivity problem as it is. So

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01:02:02,813 --> 01:02:05,613
Speaker 2: if we're suddenly in a situation where Australia's on holiday

1320
01:02:05,613 --> 01:02:07,293
Speaker 2: and when they come back to work, we suddenly go

1321
01:02:07,333 --> 01:02:10,413
Speaker 2: on holiday, that is not going to be great for product.

1322
01:02:10,253 --> 01:02:11,933
Speaker 3: So that's the track. We're going to get the Aussies

1323
01:02:11,973 --> 01:02:13,573
Speaker 3: to do it first, and then we can do it

1324
01:02:13,613 --> 01:02:15,653
Speaker 3: and we'll call it their ideas. Yeah, great idea of.

1325
01:02:15,613 --> 01:02:18,173
Speaker 2: S Dallia will follow suit, and that might be above

1326
01:02:19,053 --> 01:02:23,253
Speaker 2: Peter Dunn's ability. So I think it's retired MP to

1327
01:02:23,293 --> 01:02:24,573
Speaker 2: also get Australia.

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01:02:24,173 --> 01:02:26,413
Speaker 3: On board this one from Terry's I mean also.

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01:02:26,253 --> 01:02:27,853
Speaker 2: Australia's never going to get a board as well because

1330
01:02:27,893 --> 01:02:29,733
Speaker 2: they have great weather no middle one.

1331
01:02:29,613 --> 01:02:33,373
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, Terry says via text. Some education systems around

1332
01:02:33,413 --> 01:02:38,413
Speaker 3: the world stagger holidays and offer different streams which work brilliantly.

1333
01:02:38,453 --> 01:02:41,173
Speaker 3: The holidays are staggered, so that is another consideration for

1334
01:02:41,253 --> 01:02:45,813
Speaker 3: parents when choosing a school. Tourism operators become major beneficiaries

1335
01:02:46,053 --> 01:02:49,333
Speaker 3: as they have three separate cracks at the holiday season.

1336
01:02:49,533 --> 01:02:53,453
Speaker 3: Consumers win because they aren't fighting for overbooked flights, hotels, etc.

1337
01:02:53,893 --> 01:02:54,493
Speaker 3: Bring it on.

1338
01:02:54,773 --> 01:02:58,133
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your text, Terry Darryl. You're all

1339
01:02:58,173 --> 01:02:58,533
Speaker 2: for it.

1340
01:02:59,813 --> 01:03:02,653
Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I think this is a great idea.

1341
01:03:02,813 --> 01:03:05,733
Speaker 18: And my wife's actually a teacher, she's been talking about

1342
01:03:05,773 --> 01:03:07,613
Speaker 18: this for years. Who wants to go on holiday when

1343
01:03:07,613 --> 01:03:08,293
Speaker 18: the weather's crap?

1344
01:03:08,493 --> 01:03:08,853
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1345
01:03:08,933 --> 01:03:12,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's it's not a big call.

1346
01:03:12,373 --> 01:03:14,133
Speaker 18: Like I think if Australia did it, we should do

1347
01:03:14,133 --> 01:03:16,133
Speaker 18: it together. Make it part of it. I mean, this

1348
01:03:16,213 --> 01:03:18,333
Speaker 18: is a bit stupid, but make it part of a

1349
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:19,693
Speaker 18: pre trade agreement and.

1350
01:03:19,573 --> 01:03:20,013
Speaker 14: Just do it.

1351
01:03:20,093 --> 01:03:23,533
Speaker 18: Like like like, who wants rubbish weather? I'm being straight

1352
01:03:23,613 --> 01:03:25,293
Speaker 18: up here, Like you don't want to go away on

1353
01:03:25,293 --> 01:03:27,333
Speaker 18: holiday and have your ten fly away? That's what happened

1354
01:03:27,373 --> 01:03:28,493
Speaker 18: to our kids over Christmas?

1355
01:03:28,533 --> 01:03:28,973
Speaker 12: Who wants that?

1356
01:03:29,853 --> 01:03:30,013
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1357
01:03:30,093 --> 01:03:32,293
Speaker 2: And the thing is if from a teacher's perspective, as

1358
01:03:32,333 --> 01:03:34,973
Speaker 2: Peter Dunn was saying to us before, they are trying

1359
01:03:35,013 --> 01:03:37,373
Speaker 2: to keep kids in the class in the hottest, hottest

1360
01:03:37,373 --> 01:03:39,693
Speaker 2: months of the year and kids are sitting at the

1361
01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:40,453
Speaker 2: desk sweating.

1362
01:03:41,893 --> 01:03:45,373
Speaker 18: Absolutely, I mean it just this is a really good

1363
01:03:45,413 --> 01:03:47,533
Speaker 18: idea and I tell you it would only take it

1364
01:03:47,533 --> 01:03:50,693
Speaker 18: a decent marketing campaign and both Australia and New Zealand

1365
01:03:51,013 --> 01:03:53,453
Speaker 18: and we'd be away. Like, I honestly don't think it's

1366
01:03:53,453 --> 01:03:56,253
Speaker 18: that at hard. Like you know, businesses we can change

1367
01:03:56,253 --> 01:03:57,933
Speaker 18: when we shut down, if we shut down or what

1368
01:03:57,933 --> 01:04:00,093
Speaker 18: if we do over that period. Some of us stay

1369
01:04:00,133 --> 01:04:02,333
Speaker 18: open right throughout the period because that's the way we

1370
01:04:02,413 --> 01:04:05,493
Speaker 18: do this is this is not hard.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder what would the advantage to Australia be

1372
01:04:08,373 --> 01:04:10,653
Speaker 2: because they have very different weather from us.

1373
01:04:11,453 --> 01:04:14,013
Speaker 18: Well, they already have. I think some of the school

1374
01:04:14,053 --> 01:04:15,933
Speaker 18: holidays are a week out of things. So if you

1375
01:04:15,933 --> 01:04:19,053
Speaker 18: go to the South Island, scaring when those of us

1376
01:04:19,093 --> 01:04:21,853
Speaker 18: take holidays of days outside. So I mean even if

1377
01:04:21,893 --> 01:04:24,453
Speaker 18: you just made it one week apart or however you

1378
01:04:24,493 --> 01:04:26,973
Speaker 18: did it, but I remember, teachers aren't going to lose

1379
01:04:27,013 --> 01:04:28,493
Speaker 18: out here. They're going to get the same amount of

1380
01:04:28,533 --> 01:04:32,653
Speaker 18: holidays because that's their contracts. So yeah, I'm all for it.

1381
01:04:32,733 --> 01:04:35,573
Speaker 18: I just think, hey, it makes sense. I like nice

1382
01:04:35,613 --> 01:04:37,333
Speaker 18: weather when I go awn holiday. It kind of makes

1383
01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:37,933
Speaker 18: it go better.

1384
01:04:38,173 --> 01:04:39,813
Speaker 2: I guess the thing we need if we wanted to

1385
01:04:39,813 --> 01:04:42,253
Speaker 2: make this happen, and look there's some complications, but you

1386
01:04:42,293 --> 01:04:44,413
Speaker 2: need a slogan. That was Peter Dunn's problem. He didn't

1387
01:04:44,453 --> 01:04:45,693
Speaker 2: have a slogan.

1388
01:04:45,733 --> 01:04:45,933
Speaker 13: You know.

1389
01:04:46,333 --> 01:04:48,613
Speaker 2: You know I've never listened in my life because I've

1390
01:04:48,613 --> 01:04:50,733
Speaker 2: brought up with Bear tidy kiwe.

1391
01:04:50,373 --> 01:04:51,253
Speaker 3: New Zealand beautiful.

1392
01:04:51,333 --> 01:04:54,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need a slogan. I'm struggling with.

1393
01:04:58,653 --> 01:04:58,933
Speaker 15: The sun.

1394
01:04:59,173 --> 01:04:59,413
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1395
01:04:59,453 --> 01:05:02,173
Speaker 3: Holiday in the sun, yeah.

1396
01:05:01,333 --> 01:05:02,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, holiday in the sun.

1397
01:05:02,813 --> 01:05:03,013
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:05:03,413 --> 01:05:05,133
Speaker 2: The kind of works. I think we can work on

1399
01:05:05,173 --> 01:05:06,213
Speaker 2: that nineteen nine two.

1400
01:05:06,373 --> 01:05:10,053
Speaker 3: If you've got a great cry, yeah, and.

1401
01:05:10,013 --> 01:05:12,213
Speaker 2: Then well then we'll hit the street with some placards.

1402
01:05:13,253 --> 01:05:16,293
Speaker 18: Absolutely yeah. I mean, you know we're into protesting, so

1403
01:05:16,533 --> 01:05:17,493
Speaker 18: why not get out there.

1404
01:05:17,373 --> 01:05:22,133
Speaker 3: For a good court exactly, love it positive protests we do.

1405
01:05:22,213 --> 01:05:27,093
Speaker 2: Would go to protest holiday parks go up.

1406
01:05:27,013 --> 01:05:30,013
Speaker 3: Get some billboards going on the march towards Parliament to

1407
01:05:30,093 --> 01:05:30,813
Speaker 3: shift the.

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01:05:31,013 --> 01:05:35,133
Speaker 2: Protests, you know, put a picket line on schools to

1409
01:05:35,133 --> 01:05:36,533
Speaker 2: stop kids going out.

1410
01:05:36,733 --> 01:05:38,573
Speaker 3: On into it. Man, I had one hundred and eighty

1411
01:05:38,573 --> 01:05:40,453
Speaker 3: ten eighty as a number to call twenty two to

1412
01:05:40,493 --> 01:05:43,093
Speaker 3: three back in a month, the.

1413
01:05:43,173 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, to the big trends and

1414
01:05:46,653 --> 01:05:47,693
Speaker 1: everything in between.

1415
01:05:47,933 --> 01:05:49,173
Speaker 4: Matt and Tayler.

1416
01:05:48,853 --> 01:05:52,613
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety, attention to detail and

1417
01:05:52,693 --> 01:05:54,813
Speaker 1: a commitment to comfort news talks, there'd.

1418
01:05:54,653 --> 01:05:58,213
Speaker 3: Be it's twenty to three. We're talking about the idea

1419
01:05:58,373 --> 01:06:01,253
Speaker 3: of moving the summer holidays to February to get the

1420
01:06:01,293 --> 01:06:04,213
Speaker 3: best of the good weather. And you asked for some

1421
01:06:04,253 --> 01:06:08,333
Speaker 3: slogans from the audience Beforemat, and the audience has delivered.

1422
01:06:08,853 --> 01:06:11,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, because if we're going to make this work, and look,

1423
01:06:11,493 --> 01:06:13,173
Speaker 2: I'm only about fifty percent into it. But if we

1424
01:06:13,213 --> 01:06:14,653
Speaker 2: are going to make this work, we're going to need

1425
01:06:14,653 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 2: We're going to need the streets.

1426
01:06:16,213 --> 01:06:19,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a slogan behind you. Hey, guys, here's

1427
01:06:19,173 --> 01:06:22,813
Speaker 3: your slogan. One season holiday. That's all right, it's all right.

1428
01:06:23,053 --> 01:06:24,773
Speaker 3: Make holidays sunny again.

1429
01:06:25,893 --> 01:06:30,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, got the hats, so that would be make

1430
01:06:30,853 --> 01:06:38,573
Speaker 2: holidays sonny them. You say, yeah, that works, but red hats.

1431
01:06:39,293 --> 01:06:43,333
Speaker 3: Shift the date feel great, Jan to fib That's that's good. Yeah,

1432
01:06:43,613 --> 01:06:47,213
Speaker 3: longer days, brighter ways. I can get behind that. Longer day,

1433
01:06:47,453 --> 01:06:49,093
Speaker 3: bad days, brighter ways.

1434
01:06:49,133 --> 01:06:53,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, I find that confusing. You know, we might as

1435
01:06:53,613 --> 01:06:55,573
Speaker 2: well move to the polls if that's the case of longer,

1436
01:06:55,613 --> 01:06:57,613
Speaker 2: longer days as the main focus of it.

1437
01:06:57,773 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 3: Shift the plan more fun and fib man.

1438
01:07:00,613 --> 01:07:03,373
Speaker 2: Shift the plan more fun and feb man. Yeah, well

1439
01:07:03,413 --> 01:07:06,053
Speaker 2: the man's just shoved on there.

1440
01:07:06,373 --> 01:07:08,013
Speaker 3: Don't delay. Shift to Feb today.

1441
01:07:09,693 --> 01:07:14,413
Speaker 2: Jan no fib go, Jan no Feb go. Yeah, I

1442
01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:15,173
Speaker 2: don't know.

1443
01:07:15,453 --> 01:07:18,213
Speaker 3: Make Feb the new jam. Yeah, I keep them coming

1444
01:07:18,253 --> 01:07:23,373
Speaker 3: through nine nine two. Brent, how are you mate?

1445
01:07:23,413 --> 01:07:28,053
Speaker 22: I'm corn crisis now. I'm in the early sixties and

1446
01:07:28,093 --> 01:07:30,133
Speaker 22: I remember when I was a boy the hot weather

1447
01:07:30,213 --> 01:07:34,493
Speaker 22: started in October November and went right through February. They

1448
01:07:34,533 --> 01:07:37,093
Speaker 22: talked about global warming. Mate, We've had the worst summer ever.

1449
01:07:37,573 --> 01:07:40,213
Speaker 22: It's been cold, windy, wet. It's just starting to come

1450
01:07:40,253 --> 01:07:42,093
Speaker 22: good as people starting to go back to work now,

1451
01:07:42,933 --> 01:07:44,653
Speaker 22: and you know, I'm all for putting all the ways

1452
01:07:44,653 --> 01:07:45,453
Speaker 22: back to February.

1453
01:07:46,093 --> 01:07:48,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just down a crisis. I said, I

1454
01:07:48,493 --> 01:07:50,733
Speaker 2: was just down a crisis over the weekend and everyone

1455
01:07:50,813 --> 01:07:52,453
Speaker 2: was saying I'd been cold and cold and cold, and

1456
01:07:52,253 --> 01:07:54,293
Speaker 2: then then I arrived and it was suddenly pretty hot

1457
01:07:54,333 --> 01:07:57,573
Speaker 2: over the weekend. Actually, so that's you know, just as

1458
01:07:57,613 --> 01:07:59,133
Speaker 2: everyone's back at work. So it was it was a

1459
01:07:59,173 --> 01:08:03,093
Speaker 2: pretty pretty warm Friday, Saturday, Sunday, wasn't it this weekend?

1460
01:08:04,213 --> 01:08:07,053
Speaker 22: Maybe it hasn't got over twenty twenty teen degrees. I

1461
01:08:07,133 --> 01:08:08,613
Speaker 22: remember when I was a boy, it was need to

1462
01:08:08,973 --> 01:08:13,453
Speaker 22: out de grease right through summer, and this last summer

1463
01:08:13,853 --> 01:08:17,293
Speaker 22: we're just here, we're heaving. We had two good weeks

1464
01:08:18,572 --> 01:08:21,933
Speaker 22: in early December, but two weeks before Christmas. Where that

1465
01:08:22,452 --> 01:08:25,732
Speaker 22: two weeks when we're getting the mid twenties. And since Christmas, mate,

1466
01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:29,652
Speaker 22: it's been shite and they go on a back flavor warming.

1467
01:08:29,732 --> 01:08:32,532
Speaker 22: So yeah, I reckon. Those slogan should breed those long

1468
01:08:32,772 --> 01:08:38,612
Speaker 22: summer nights from that Grease movie. Bringing back in February.

1469
01:08:40,372 --> 01:08:42,892
Speaker 22: You will you were most people work all year and

1470
01:08:42,933 --> 01:08:45,892
Speaker 22: then they take the holidays over Christmas and they put

1471
01:08:45,973 --> 01:08:49,372
Speaker 22: up with us. I mean, that's got it ripped off.

1472
01:08:49,692 --> 01:08:51,932
Speaker 2: It's gutting, you know, if you've got a very small

1473
01:08:52,173 --> 01:08:55,732
Speaker 2: break and then and then you've got bad weather, it hurts.

1474
01:08:55,853 --> 01:08:58,293
Speaker 2: It hurts you emotionally because you're feeling that you're being

1475
01:08:58,492 --> 01:09:01,213
Speaker 2: being ripped off, because you know, especially that last month

1476
01:09:01,253 --> 01:09:04,732
Speaker 2: before the big holiday, you're just picturing the beach, the sun,

1477
01:09:05,532 --> 01:09:07,213
Speaker 2: picturing all of that, and then you don't get it

1478
01:09:07,253 --> 01:09:08,932
Speaker 2: and you feel I'm about.

1479
01:09:08,772 --> 01:09:10,892
Speaker 3: It trying to set up and.

1480
01:09:13,133 --> 01:09:16,133
Speaker 22: Going to the rich Or in April. So we'll hope

1481
01:09:16,173 --> 01:09:20,732
Speaker 22: to get rid of the sun there. But something needs

1482
01:09:20,732 --> 01:09:22,333
Speaker 22: to be done without a make because I'll tell you what,

1483
01:09:22,372 --> 01:09:23,732
Speaker 22: you work all year and then you have to put

1484
01:09:23,812 --> 01:09:24,053
Speaker 22: up with that.

1485
01:09:24,412 --> 01:09:27,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, while we're starting at right here, right now, Brent,

1486
01:09:27,572 --> 01:09:29,213
Speaker 3: and we're coming up with the slogans and we'll get

1487
01:09:29,213 --> 01:09:32,173
Speaker 3: the billboards painted and we're going to push for it.

1488
01:09:32,293 --> 01:09:35,452
Speaker 3: And we've we've got Peter Dunn on board, so he's hoping, Pete,

1489
01:09:35,812 --> 01:09:36,452
Speaker 3: what do you reckon?

1490
01:09:37,772 --> 01:09:39,933
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, I know I reckon leave the way it is,

1491
01:09:40,013 --> 01:09:43,572
Speaker 23: you know, the global things that with the patterns changing,

1492
01:09:43,732 --> 01:09:46,973
Speaker 23: But you keep on changing things, you know, and you're

1493
01:09:46,973 --> 01:09:49,532
Speaker 23: having our Christmas. It's our Christmas break. If you want

1494
01:09:49,532 --> 01:09:52,852
Speaker 23: to have your holiday in February, March or whenever, well,

1495
01:09:52,933 --> 01:09:56,452
Speaker 23: you take your holiday, take your breaks. You're two weeks

1496
01:09:56,532 --> 01:10:00,052
Speaker 23: or two weeks then of your family whatever, Just old

1497
01:10:00,173 --> 01:10:02,173
Speaker 23: nate to suit yourself where you think is the best

1498
01:10:02,173 --> 01:10:04,733
Speaker 23: with it. To sue you, some people there under skiing

1499
01:10:04,853 --> 01:10:08,893
Speaker 23: and all sorts of It's got different holidays seasons for

1500
01:10:09,013 --> 01:10:12,452
Speaker 23: whatever they are into. So you can't please everybody. When

1501
01:10:12,492 --> 01:10:15,492
Speaker 23: does it stop changing things all the time, change it

1502
01:10:15,532 --> 01:10:18,452
Speaker 23: from a three team to a four term. It just

1503
01:10:18,572 --> 01:10:21,213
Speaker 23: carries on, carries on, you know, I think just the

1504
01:10:21,253 --> 01:10:24,293
Speaker 23: way it is fine. Just adapt yourselves to suit your time.

1505
01:10:24,173 --> 01:10:24,932
Speaker 8: You take your break.

1506
01:10:25,173 --> 01:10:27,732
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think what Peter dumm was suggesting, though, and

1507
01:10:28,612 --> 01:10:31,412
Speaker 2: is that you'd move school holidays. That's because that's that's

1508
01:10:31,412 --> 01:10:32,933
Speaker 2: a hard thing to move. And it's one thing that

1509
01:10:32,973 --> 01:10:35,933
Speaker 2: I find really odd that schools are so reticent for

1510
01:10:36,013 --> 01:10:39,133
Speaker 2: you taking your kids away on holidays, because surely there's

1511
01:10:39,173 --> 01:10:42,933
Speaker 2: especially primary school and intermediate. Surely a holiday worth the

1512
01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:45,572
Speaker 2: family is more important than whatever rubbish you're lose losing

1513
01:10:45,572 --> 01:10:48,173
Speaker 2: at school at that age. Yeah, but yeah, I think

1514
01:10:48,213 --> 01:10:51,093
Speaker 2: I think you'd have to. You know, you can take

1515
01:10:51,133 --> 01:10:54,052
Speaker 2: your holidays whenever, but if your kids are back at school,

1516
01:10:54,253 --> 01:10:56,013
Speaker 2: you know that that's the problem. But you know, I

1517
01:10:56,013 --> 01:10:56,532
Speaker 2: get your point.

1518
01:10:56,572 --> 01:10:58,612
Speaker 3: Thanks for your col cheers, Pete. Yeah, just on that.

1519
01:10:58,812 --> 01:11:01,052
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of sympathy for well, the facts

1520
01:11:01,053 --> 01:11:03,372
Speaker 3: that the prices go through the roof during the school holidays,

1521
01:11:03,372 --> 01:11:06,013
Speaker 3: and we get the reason why, supply and demand. But

1522
01:11:06,253 --> 01:11:08,173
Speaker 3: you're quite right taking your kid away for a night

1523
01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:13,012
Speaker 3: holiday somewhere overseas. Surely they're learning a lot during that holiday,

1524
01:11:13,013 --> 01:11:14,772
Speaker 3: aren't they. You're getting a nice break and the kids

1525
01:11:14,812 --> 01:11:15,532
Speaker 3: are learning as well.

1526
01:11:15,732 --> 01:11:18,572
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's funny that concept that we have, and it's

1527
01:11:18,572 --> 01:11:22,492
Speaker 2: been studied a lot by psychologists, is the idea that

1528
01:11:22,612 --> 01:11:24,932
Speaker 2: we always had longer and better summers when we were younger,

1529
01:11:25,372 --> 01:11:27,852
Speaker 2: and it's a thing that we all do. We remember

1530
01:11:27,853 --> 01:11:32,133
Speaker 2: these long, long summers that were incredible. But it's something

1531
01:11:32,133 --> 01:11:36,853
Speaker 2: to do with being young and how your brain's developing,

1532
01:11:36,893 --> 01:11:38,852
Speaker 2: and things seem to take a lot longer time than

1533
01:11:38,893 --> 01:11:41,253
Speaker 2: they did because a lot of things in you. So

1534
01:11:41,293 --> 01:11:43,852
Speaker 2: you might remember a summer holiday when you were camping

1535
01:11:43,853 --> 01:11:45,213
Speaker 2: when you're a kid, and then you find out that

1536
01:11:45,253 --> 01:11:47,333
Speaker 2: you're away for two days, it seems like you're away

1537
01:11:47,372 --> 01:11:48,133
Speaker 2: for a month.

1538
01:11:48,492 --> 01:11:49,972
Speaker 3: Makes a lot of sense when you put it there.

1539
01:11:50,053 --> 01:11:53,572
Speaker 2: So it's interesting when you try and marry the stats

1540
01:11:53,572 --> 01:11:55,692
Speaker 2: with your memories, and it's quite different. Like you'll look

1541
01:11:55,732 --> 01:11:57,253
Speaker 2: back at a holiday and you thought that was the

1542
01:11:57,293 --> 01:12:00,852
Speaker 2: longest summer holiday we went forever, and then you look

1543
01:12:00,893 --> 01:12:01,933
Speaker 2: back at the weather and it was like that was

1544
01:12:01,933 --> 01:12:05,372
Speaker 2: a pretty average summer and your parents went away from

1545
01:12:05,372 --> 01:12:06,652
Speaker 2: about half a day to the beach.

1546
01:12:08,652 --> 01:12:09,333
Speaker 3: This afternoon.

1547
01:12:10,173 --> 01:12:13,532
Speaker 11: Oh hello, yes, I'm fine, thanks, lovely hot sunny day

1548
01:12:13,572 --> 01:12:14,452
Speaker 11: here in Nelson.

1549
01:12:14,732 --> 01:12:15,972
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful Nelson.

1550
01:12:16,973 --> 01:12:20,253
Speaker 11: Yeah, yes, And I just want to make a few

1551
01:12:20,293 --> 01:12:25,452
Speaker 11: comments on this discussion because I'm quite old, and I

1552
01:12:25,492 --> 01:12:27,973
Speaker 11: know it sounds very young, but I'm quite older. And

1553
01:12:28,013 --> 01:12:30,692
Speaker 11: I went to yeah, well I went to school in

1554
01:12:30,732 --> 01:12:35,532
Speaker 11: the forties and fifties, nineteen forties and fifties, and this

1555
01:12:35,692 --> 01:12:39,852
Speaker 11: discussion was being held there. I can distinctly, I can

1556
01:12:39,933 --> 01:12:46,412
Speaker 11: distinctly remember starting high school at in February and sitting there,

1557
01:12:46,452 --> 01:12:50,012
Speaker 11: and I can distinctly remember sitting by the window looking

1558
01:12:50,053 --> 01:12:52,812
Speaker 11: out at the man on the tract to cutting the

1559
01:12:53,013 --> 01:12:57,333
Speaker 11: cricket fields and everything, all of vast green and looking

1560
01:12:57,372 --> 01:13:00,532
Speaker 11: out and it was this hot, hot, sunny day and

1561
01:13:00,612 --> 01:13:03,732
Speaker 11: I was so envious of that man out on the

1562
01:13:03,812 --> 01:13:06,092
Speaker 11: tractor cutting the rugby fields.

1563
01:13:07,812 --> 01:13:10,612
Speaker 2: I've got this memory from being a kid as well,

1564
01:13:10,652 --> 01:13:13,412
Speaker 2: looking at the windows, like most of us have that memory.

1565
01:13:13,053 --> 01:13:16,253
Speaker 11: Of yeah, yeah, and it was hot, hot, hot, And

1566
01:13:16,293 --> 01:13:20,333
Speaker 11: the other memory of Onto and this discussion. I remember

1567
01:13:20,412 --> 01:13:22,692
Speaker 11: this sort of stuff being talked about because the other

1568
01:13:22,772 --> 01:13:25,772
Speaker 11: one that had sprung to mind as the little child

1569
01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:30,053
Speaker 11: was Christmas and we had the Christmas tree and all

1570
01:13:30,772 --> 01:13:33,772
Speaker 11: the trimmings and whatnot. And there was one Christmas when

1571
01:13:33,812 --> 01:13:38,452
Speaker 11: the weather was terrible and there was snow on the

1572
01:13:38,572 --> 01:13:43,093
Speaker 11: Tarkica Hill. It was so yep, there was I'm not

1573
01:13:43,213 --> 01:13:47,133
Speaker 11: making this up, but was snow on the Tarkica Hill. Christmas.

1574
01:13:47,293 --> 01:13:51,012
Speaker 11: It was freezing cold and we couldn't light the fire

1575
01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:56,732
Speaker 11: because the Christmas tree was in the fireplace. And I've

1576
01:13:56,933 --> 01:14:01,652
Speaker 11: never forgotten that memory. So and other memories have come

1577
01:14:01,692 --> 01:14:04,333
Speaker 11: back and people and so the.

1578
01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:06,812
Speaker 2: Christmas tree duty was in the fireplace. So what did

1579
01:14:06,812 --> 01:14:08,012
Speaker 2: the tree go up the chimney?

1580
01:14:08,812 --> 01:14:20,892
Speaker 11: No, in front of the fast there, yes, anyway, and

1581
01:14:21,013 --> 01:14:24,293
Speaker 11: the other one. But I think this doesn't apply now

1582
01:14:24,333 --> 01:14:26,653
Speaker 11: because they have changed. I don't know what the holidays

1583
01:14:26,652 --> 01:14:30,293
Speaker 11: are now. But the other one that always was we

1584
01:14:30,333 --> 01:14:33,892
Speaker 11: had two weeks holiday in May that was okay, and

1585
01:14:33,933 --> 01:14:37,012
Speaker 11: then we had three weeks holiday in August and August

1586
01:14:37,213 --> 01:14:39,732
Speaker 11: was a terrible month at Paud was rain the whole

1587
01:14:39,772 --> 01:14:43,132
Speaker 11: of August and that's when we had three weeks holiday.

1588
01:14:43,173 --> 01:14:46,533
Speaker 11: And I never I thought, well if that was stupid.

1589
01:14:46,933 --> 01:14:50,132
Speaker 11: But anyway, I don't think it's light that now it's changed.

1590
01:14:50,293 --> 01:14:54,852
Speaker 11: But getting back to Christmas and the holidays, I think

1591
01:14:54,853 --> 01:14:59,732
Speaker 11: it's a good idea to separate out Christmas and the

1592
01:14:59,812 --> 01:15:03,692
Speaker 11: summer holidays. I think there's far too much on a

1593
01:15:03,933 --> 01:15:07,692
Speaker 11: family when school is breaking up and you have all

1594
01:15:07,772 --> 01:15:10,372
Speaker 11: the things you have to go to for the end

1595
01:15:10,412 --> 01:15:13,213
Speaker 11: of the school year. At the same time, you're trying

1596
01:15:13,253 --> 01:15:16,213
Speaker 11: to organize Christmas and the grandparents are coming and you

1597
01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:19,253
Speaker 11: are Prikey, and then we're going away on holiday and

1598
01:15:19,293 --> 01:15:22,692
Speaker 11: our krikee and the whole thing is all running all

1599
01:15:22,732 --> 01:15:26,532
Speaker 11: into each other and then Parliament shuts down. But that's

1600
01:15:26,572 --> 01:15:30,213
Speaker 11: when they want you to put in your whatever those

1601
01:15:30,253 --> 01:15:34,412
Speaker 11: things are forgotten, the name, and so much is going on,

1602
01:15:34,612 --> 01:15:37,892
Speaker 11: and I think it's much better to separate out. Okay,

1603
01:15:38,173 --> 01:15:42,372
Speaker 11: we're having Christmas, let's concentrate on that, and then in

1604
01:15:42,412 --> 01:15:44,812
Speaker 11: February we're going to have a nice long holiday and

1605
01:15:44,853 --> 01:15:46,492
Speaker 11: we're going to go to the beach with the tent.

1606
01:15:47,013 --> 01:15:49,372
Speaker 11: So you can put half of what you have to

1607
01:15:49,412 --> 01:15:54,492
Speaker 11: do aside and concentrate on just a certain amount, get

1608
01:15:54,532 --> 01:15:58,012
Speaker 11: it done properly, and then look forward to something else.

1609
01:15:58,093 --> 01:16:01,173
Speaker 11: I think all the stuff that has to happen just

1610
01:16:01,293 --> 01:16:05,253
Speaker 11: in December and January is too much. And also with

1611
01:16:05,452 --> 01:16:09,133
Speaker 11: people how much they have to spend, and you know,

1612
01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:14,093
Speaker 11: you need to have your spending so that it's on Christmas,

1613
01:16:14,133 --> 01:16:15,892
Speaker 11: and then you've got a month and then you've got

1614
01:16:15,893 --> 01:16:18,812
Speaker 11: to spend on your holiday. It's I do think it's

1615
01:16:18,853 --> 01:16:22,652
Speaker 11: a good idea to separate it out and make it

1616
01:16:22,772 --> 01:16:27,293
Speaker 11: easier for everyone to enjoy things throughout the year without

1617
01:16:27,812 --> 01:16:30,932
Speaker 11: all concentrated on one sort of thing. Then we get

1618
01:16:30,973 --> 01:16:34,533
Speaker 11: all told off because we haven't followed politics exactly.

1619
01:16:34,772 --> 01:16:37,933
Speaker 2: Je well make some powerful points their journey. Thank you

1620
01:16:37,973 --> 01:16:38,333
Speaker 2: so much.

1621
01:16:38,333 --> 01:16:40,133
Speaker 3: We need to send duty down to Parliament to make

1622
01:16:40,133 --> 01:16:43,093
Speaker 3: the case because she made that beautifully. Oh eight hundred

1623
01:16:43,093 --> 01:16:44,572
Speaker 3: and eighty teen eighty is the number to call.

1624
01:16:44,652 --> 01:16:46,492
Speaker 2: I've got this text here. Thank you Matt for making

1625
01:16:46,532 --> 01:16:48,973
Speaker 2: light of elder people having to wear diapers. Isn't that

1626
01:16:49,053 --> 01:16:51,732
Speaker 2: funny having had a mum who suffered a mathistroke and

1627
01:16:51,812 --> 01:16:56,252
Speaker 2: needed twenty for our care? Regards Kristin, Kristin, Jesus Christian's

1628
01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:59,333
Speaker 2: angry person, I did not make fun of elderly people

1629
01:16:59,372 --> 01:17:02,572
Speaker 2: wearing diapers. I was making the point that in Japan, Kristin,

1630
01:17:03,093 --> 01:17:08,093
Speaker 2: in Japan are they selling more elderly diapers than young

1631
01:17:08,133 --> 01:17:11,812
Speaker 2: person and diapers, which is shows that they've got a

1632
01:17:11,933 --> 01:17:16,012
Speaker 2: terrible problem with population to crime. Okay, Kristin, it's angry, angry,

1633
01:17:16,133 --> 01:17:17,413
Speaker 2: angry woman, a telling.

1634
01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:20,253
Speaker 3: Fact about birthrate in Japan. Yeah, come on, christ come

1635
01:17:20,293 --> 01:17:21,413
Speaker 3: on Wednesday.

1636
01:17:21,492 --> 01:17:24,293
Speaker 2: You're better than that. You're better than that, Kristen.

1637
01:17:24,053 --> 01:17:26,732
Speaker 3: Come on, oh eight and eighty ten eighty. Can you

1638
01:17:26,772 --> 01:17:29,892
Speaker 3: hear your slogans about shifting the summer holiday to feb

1639
01:17:29,893 --> 01:17:32,372
Speaker 3: as well? A few more coming through It is eight

1640
01:17:32,452 --> 01:17:33,972
Speaker 3: minutes to three, back in the moment.

1641
01:17:35,692 --> 01:17:38,133
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1642
01:17:38,173 --> 01:17:38,812
Speaker 4: along the way.

1643
01:17:39,013 --> 01:17:42,972
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation,

1644
01:17:43,173 --> 01:17:44,212
Speaker 1: Style and Design.

1645
01:17:44,372 --> 01:17:46,013
Speaker 4: Have it All New Talks.

1646
01:17:45,973 --> 01:17:49,652
Speaker 3: Be News Talk said it is six to three. Jullian,

1647
01:17:49,692 --> 01:17:51,052
Speaker 3: you reckon, You've got a good slogan.

1648
01:17:52,612 --> 01:17:55,213
Speaker 17: Oh I reckon, I have good having back guys.

1649
01:17:55,452 --> 01:17:56,492
Speaker 3: Thank you, nice to be back.

1650
01:17:56,532 --> 01:17:57,532
Speaker 10: I hope you enjoyed yourself.

1651
01:17:57,933 --> 01:17:58,412
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1652
01:17:58,732 --> 01:18:02,812
Speaker 10: What about we we have movembo, we have dried January?

1653
01:18:02,812 --> 01:18:04,693
Speaker 10: What about bring it on Sunuary?

1654
01:18:05,572 --> 01:18:05,932
Speaker 9: Oh?

1655
01:18:06,053 --> 01:18:06,653
Speaker 3: Sunuary?

1656
01:18:06,692 --> 01:18:08,133
Speaker 2: Well, hang, I'm gonna are we trying to move out

1657
01:18:08,133 --> 01:18:16,093
Speaker 2: of Suny February? So Sunbraria and you can I'm sure you.

1658
01:18:17,013 --> 01:18:19,213
Speaker 10: I'm sure you guys could come up with a from

1659
01:18:19,253 --> 01:18:22,733
Speaker 10: a with a little tune to the theme song and happy.

1660
01:18:22,532 --> 01:18:30,333
Speaker 2: Days Monday, Tuesday, fib.

1661
01:18:30,053 --> 01:18:34,372
Speaker 3: Holidays goods Yeah, okay, January.

1662
01:18:34,812 --> 01:18:42,572
Speaker 2: December, January and December don't holiday. We'll take it.

1663
01:18:42,572 --> 01:18:43,572
Speaker 10: We'll need to give it.

1664
01:18:43,612 --> 01:18:46,253
Speaker 13: I need to give it a bit of So it's giving.

1665
01:18:46,133 --> 01:18:48,213
Speaker 3: Us the seed and we will take it from here. Julian,

1666
01:18:48,213 --> 01:18:50,973
Speaker 3: don't warrants and safe hands a couple of ticks to

1667
01:18:50,973 --> 01:18:53,852
Speaker 3: wrap this up, guys, I am listening from India and

1668
01:18:54,053 --> 01:18:57,772
Speaker 3: India are currently looking to move their summer camping holiday

1669
01:18:57,812 --> 01:19:01,652
Speaker 3: to late jan FIB to avoid the crowds. Please please

1670
01:19:01,772 --> 01:19:04,652
Speaker 3: don't move the school holidays or make it a formal

1671
01:19:04,692 --> 01:19:08,213
Speaker 3: holiday period. We like it the wad it is from my.

1672
01:19:09,013 --> 01:19:12,052
Speaker 2: Okay, well, good news, Mike. We don't have the power

1673
01:19:12,053 --> 01:19:14,892
Speaker 2: to do it. And as was a duty said, they've

1674
01:19:14,893 --> 01:19:16,652
Speaker 2: been talking about this since the nineteen forties and no

1675
01:19:17,372 --> 01:19:20,212
Speaker 2: one's done it. And Peter Dunn's retired and he didn't succeed.

1676
01:19:20,333 --> 01:19:22,892
Speaker 3: So you know, you've got nothing to worry about. Enjoy

1677
01:19:22,933 --> 01:19:25,692
Speaker 3: your January holiday and your weather's crap, so be and

1678
01:19:25,772 --> 01:19:27,492
Speaker 3: that's the way that the cookie crumbles.

1679
01:19:27,612 --> 01:19:29,372
Speaker 2: It's a nice idea, and it was a good chat.

1680
01:19:29,412 --> 01:19:30,732
Speaker 2: Thanks for everyone that texts it and.

1681
01:19:30,692 --> 01:19:34,012
Speaker 3: Call absolutely And speaking of good chats, after three o'clock,

1682
01:19:34,133 --> 01:19:37,452
Speaker 3: I want to talk about something that Matt's doing over

1683
01:19:37,492 --> 01:19:40,293
Speaker 3: what the last couple of months. They call it raw dogging.

1684
01:19:40,612 --> 01:19:42,012
Speaker 19: Yeah and more.

1685
01:19:42,452 --> 01:19:45,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, we might want to might not be the raw

1686
01:19:45,093 --> 01:19:47,293
Speaker 2: dogging you're thinking of, but yeah, well we'll explain that

1687
01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:48,132
Speaker 2: more after.

1688
01:19:49,013 --> 01:19:52,293
Speaker 3: After spot of weather coming up. A great deal of

1689
01:19:52,333 --> 01:19:54,173
Speaker 3: your company, as always, O eight one hundred and eighty

1690
01:19:54,253 --> 01:19:56,213
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two ninety

1691
01:19:56,213 --> 01:19:59,213
Speaker 3: two is the text number three to three will catch

1692
01:19:59,293 --> 01:20:00,053
Speaker 3: on the other side of.

1693
01:20:00,013 --> 01:20:10,333
Speaker 1: News talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heathen Taylor

1694
01:20:10,333 --> 01:20:14,052
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons with the Volvo X ninety news dog.

1695
01:20:13,973 --> 01:20:18,372
Speaker 3: Zib Good afternoon. I hope you're having a great Wednesday.

1696
01:20:18,492 --> 01:20:22,212
Speaker 3: We certainly are. Now, there was something that you mentioned

1697
01:20:22,213 --> 01:20:24,692
Speaker 3: to me this week, met that you've been doing that

1698
01:20:25,093 --> 01:20:27,732
Speaker 3: I thought was a little bit weird, if I'm being honest.

1699
01:20:27,893 --> 01:20:30,492
Speaker 3: You caught it raw dogging. Well that was what the

1700
01:20:30,492 --> 01:20:31,253
Speaker 3: internet called it.

1701
01:20:31,333 --> 01:20:32,452
Speaker 2: Well, no raw dogging, was it?

1702
01:20:32,452 --> 01:20:32,612
Speaker 18: Well?

1703
01:20:32,692 --> 01:20:35,452
Speaker 2: RD dog getting started off as something quite different, which

1704
01:20:35,452 --> 01:20:38,532
Speaker 2: we won't go into. You know, no judgment, but we

1705
01:20:38,532 --> 01:20:41,892
Speaker 2: won't go into it. But when people started talking about

1706
01:20:41,893 --> 01:20:44,812
Speaker 2: the raw dogging craze last year, it was around you

1707
01:20:44,812 --> 01:20:47,973
Speaker 2: know how, going on international flights or long flights and

1708
01:20:48,973 --> 01:20:52,892
Speaker 2: you know, not not having headphones and not watching movies,

1709
01:20:53,133 --> 01:20:55,532
Speaker 2: just being in your own space for that time. And look,

1710
01:20:55,532 --> 01:20:58,173
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this R and Z article here, and

1711
01:20:58,173 --> 01:21:01,572
Speaker 2: they seem to be slamming into some kind of toxic

1712
01:21:02,253 --> 01:21:04,333
Speaker 2: masculinity thing. But that wasn't what it was about at all.

1713
01:21:04,372 --> 01:21:07,053
Speaker 2: I don't know what Irenzeed's saying here, but anyway, it

1714
01:21:07,133 --> 01:21:10,053
Speaker 2: wasn't really about that, you know. The headline said raw

1715
01:21:10,093 --> 01:21:14,013
Speaker 2: dog and flight trend may portray portray masculinity online.

1716
01:21:14,452 --> 01:21:16,452
Speaker 3: But it's kind of a weird headline.

1717
01:21:16,452 --> 01:21:18,532
Speaker 2: It's a weird headline. Why wouldn't you portray Why wouldn't

1718
01:21:18,532 --> 01:21:21,532
Speaker 2: you portray masculinity? Nothing wrong with masculinity, I mean, I

1719
01:21:21,532 --> 01:21:23,652
Speaker 2: think that's crazy for a ten hour flight, they have

1720
01:21:23,772 --> 01:21:27,173
Speaker 2: no distractions. But the wider point of is what the

1721
01:21:27,213 --> 01:21:28,892
Speaker 2: hell has happened to us? Will we have to be

1722
01:21:29,093 --> 01:21:30,812
Speaker 2: entertained so much all the time? And I was talking

1723
01:21:30,812 --> 01:21:32,972
Speaker 2: about the start of the show. It's TV show I'm

1724
01:21:32,973 --> 01:21:37,093
Speaker 2: watching called the TERRAEP which is which is on TV

1725
01:21:37,133 --> 01:21:37,932
Speaker 2: and Z plus and.

1726
01:21:37,973 --> 01:21:39,293
Speaker 3: The Search for the Northern Passage.

1727
01:21:39,412 --> 01:21:43,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and just some ships caught in the

1728
01:21:43,532 --> 01:21:47,452
Speaker 2: mid eighteen fifty around that time in ice for three seasons,

1729
01:21:47,492 --> 01:21:50,253
Speaker 2: three you know, three winters. So they're stuck in ice

1730
01:21:50,333 --> 01:21:55,012
Speaker 2: just eating canned food, these sailors. And then then we're

1731
01:21:55,213 --> 01:21:59,532
Speaker 2: marveling to the point where where Radio New Zealand is

1732
01:21:59,572 --> 01:22:02,652
Speaker 2: saying it's a shocking example of a masculinity to sit

1733
01:22:02,732 --> 01:22:05,293
Speaker 2: there for ten hours on a flight without an entertainment.

1734
01:22:05,532 --> 01:22:09,013
Speaker 2: I mean, what has happened to us. I mean, you know,

1735
01:22:09,572 --> 01:22:12,293
Speaker 2: we're so over entertained now, We've just got so much

1736
01:22:12,333 --> 01:22:14,652
Speaker 2: input coming in that I think it's addling our brains.

1737
01:22:14,853 --> 01:22:16,852
Speaker 2: So whilst I'm not doing it on an international flight,

1738
01:22:16,893 --> 01:22:20,892
Speaker 2: although I have done it on domestic flights, just not

1739
01:22:21,532 --> 01:22:24,812
Speaker 2: consuming anything and just being in your own thoughts is

1740
01:22:25,732 --> 01:22:28,013
Speaker 2: quite empowering. So now, I mean, this morning I ran

1741
01:22:28,492 --> 01:22:34,333
Speaker 2: seven k seven k run, a shocking example of toxic masculinity. No,

1742
01:22:34,412 --> 01:22:37,372
Speaker 2: I went from a seven k run and didn't have

1743
01:22:37,372 --> 01:22:41,172
Speaker 2: any headphones and didn't just was listening to the birds

1744
01:22:41,213 --> 01:22:44,612
Speaker 2: and looking at the trees and just running in my

1745
01:22:44,692 --> 01:22:47,933
Speaker 2: own thoughts. This is meditative and I also do that

1746
01:22:47,973 --> 01:22:49,293
Speaker 2: for the gym. Now when I go to the gym,

1747
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:51,372
Speaker 2: I don't take headphones. Everyone else in the gym's on

1748
01:22:51,372 --> 01:22:54,492
Speaker 2: the headphones. But I think working out and just spending

1749
01:22:54,532 --> 01:22:58,172
Speaker 2: time in your own mind while you're doing something positive

1750
01:22:58,973 --> 01:23:01,932
Speaker 2: and you know, testing your muscles all that kind of stuff,

1751
01:23:02,652 --> 01:23:04,492
Speaker 2: is that should be more more than enough, and we

1752
01:23:04,492 --> 01:23:06,253
Speaker 2: should be worried that we can't do that.

1753
01:23:06,253 --> 01:23:08,093
Speaker 3: Even in the gym, Even in the gym where there's

1754
01:23:08,093 --> 01:23:11,253
Speaker 3: no birds chirping, there's no sunset to really see, you

1755
01:23:11,412 --> 01:23:14,892
Speaker 3: just hear the sound of weights clanging and people runting.

1756
01:23:15,053 --> 01:23:16,972
Speaker 3: There's more than enough for ripping on the treadmill.

1757
01:23:17,053 --> 01:23:19,892
Speaker 2: There's more. There's more than enough. But I just don't

1758
01:23:19,933 --> 01:23:21,692
Speaker 2: think that people can. I've got this text here because

1759
01:23:21,692 --> 01:23:24,013
Speaker 2: we bought it up before Hi, Matt and Tyler. I

1760
01:23:24,133 --> 01:23:27,092
Speaker 2: run every second day at five point thirty am, normally

1761
01:23:27,452 --> 01:23:30,372
Speaker 2: thirteen to fourteen k's. I never take music with me.

1762
01:23:30,492 --> 01:23:33,093
Speaker 2: I listen to the new Day starting two He's seagulls

1763
01:23:33,133 --> 01:23:35,812
Speaker 2: or whatever else nature throws at me. My brain is

1764
01:23:35,812 --> 01:23:39,013
Speaker 2: free to rhame. You feel so much better for the

1765
01:23:39,093 --> 01:23:42,053
Speaker 2: run and more alive. Heading towards seventy three years this year.

1766
01:23:42,293 --> 01:23:45,972
Speaker 2: Another thing my running, Sorry just blah blah blah blah blah.

1767
01:23:46,612 --> 01:23:48,452
Speaker 2: Not the blah blah blah to the person that's a

1768
01:23:48,452 --> 01:23:50,213
Speaker 2: great text, but blah blah blah. As I'm just going

1769
01:23:50,253 --> 01:23:52,213
Speaker 2: to say that, I'm trying to open the text of

1770
01:23:52,293 --> 01:23:55,253
Speaker 2: Minister fail on the technology. Another thing with my running,

1771
01:23:55,293 --> 01:23:58,972
Speaker 2: alcohol is really drunk. I feel great without it, she is, Dave,

1772
01:23:59,173 --> 01:24:01,692
Speaker 2: thank you so much for that. Yeah, I'm not sure.

1773
01:24:01,772 --> 01:24:04,133
Speaker 2: I think he means alcohol is really really drunk in

1774
01:24:04,173 --> 01:24:05,452
Speaker 2: his life, not well he's running.

1775
01:24:05,612 --> 01:24:07,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, but clearly he is someone for a lack of

1776
01:24:07,933 --> 01:24:10,093
Speaker 3: a better let's call it raw dogging, because that's what

1777
01:24:10,133 --> 01:24:12,053
Speaker 3: the internet has picked up. This tree and going on

1778
01:24:12,053 --> 01:24:15,492
Speaker 3: the flight ten hours and not having any distractions. It's

1779
01:24:15,492 --> 01:24:17,772
Speaker 3: effectively what you're doing. I like the logic of it.

1780
01:24:17,853 --> 01:24:20,132
Speaker 3: And as I said a little bit earlier on the show,

1781
01:24:20,293 --> 01:24:21,772
Speaker 3: I do it when I walk the dog. But my

1782
01:24:21,933 --> 01:24:24,653
Speaker 3: dog's my distraction there. But that's nice bonding.

1783
01:24:24,732 --> 01:24:28,572
Speaker 2: It's bum and picking up its leaving a beautiful bum. Yeah, yeah,

1784
01:24:28,732 --> 01:24:30,532
Speaker 2: I mean my dog does well. He's got a lovely

1785
01:24:30,572 --> 01:24:33,772
Speaker 2: white bum. Yeah. And I and I've spent a lot

1786
01:24:33,772 --> 01:24:37,253
Speaker 2: of time stiffing around like it sounds doesn't sound great

1787
01:24:37,293 --> 01:24:39,812
Speaker 2: saying that, but yeah, I mean that what's the difference then,

1788
01:24:39,933 --> 01:24:42,692
Speaker 2: I mean, you're walking your dog, you're at the gym.

1789
01:24:42,732 --> 01:24:44,812
Speaker 2: I just think people, and I'd love to hear from

1790
01:24:44,812 --> 01:24:47,492
Speaker 2: people on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two

1791
01:24:47,612 --> 01:24:51,093
Speaker 2: nine two on the text, you know, can you do that?

1792
01:24:51,853 --> 01:24:53,932
Speaker 2: Or are you worried that you can't go for all?

1793
01:24:53,973 --> 01:24:57,333
Speaker 2: Can you go for a walk even without entertainment or

1794
01:24:57,333 --> 01:24:59,812
Speaker 2: do you have to mess around and find a podcast

1795
01:24:59,812 --> 01:25:02,892
Speaker 2: to put into your ears? I mean, isn't that concerning

1796
01:25:02,933 --> 01:25:05,412
Speaker 2: that you can't leave the house. I mean, I used

1797
01:25:05,412 --> 01:25:06,692
Speaker 2: to be so bad that I wouldn't be able to

1798
01:25:06,692 --> 01:25:08,892
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, Like I'd need to do my

1799
01:25:08,973 --> 01:25:11,093
Speaker 2: business and I'd go, well, I can't spend time on

1800
01:25:11,133 --> 01:25:13,492
Speaker 2: myself doing my business. I need to get my phone

1801
01:25:13,492 --> 01:25:16,292
Speaker 2: so I can check social media while I'm there, you know. Yeah,

1802
01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:19,093
Speaker 2: And now I mean, people, we don't want to hear this,

1803
01:25:19,213 --> 01:25:21,692
Speaker 2: but now I'm raw dogging the bathroom. I just go

1804
01:25:21,772 --> 01:25:22,612
Speaker 2: and do my business.

1805
01:25:22,652 --> 01:25:24,652
Speaker 3: You know, there is something sad about that when I

1806
01:25:24,772 --> 01:25:26,532
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't have my phone for whatever reason,

1807
01:25:26,612 --> 01:25:29,093
Speaker 3: when I went to the bathroom and I resorted to

1808
01:25:29,173 --> 01:25:31,452
Speaker 3: reading the back of the toilet paper just to see

1809
01:25:31,492 --> 01:25:34,333
Speaker 3: where it was made. I'm like, geez, what's happened to me?

1810
01:25:34,333 --> 01:25:35,812
Speaker 3: But I can't even go to the toilet. I think

1811
01:25:35,853 --> 01:25:38,772
Speaker 3: people are becoming scared of their own thoughts. They're scared

1812
01:25:38,772 --> 01:25:42,293
Speaker 3: of being on their own. People are so terrified of boredom.

1813
01:25:42,893 --> 01:25:46,173
Speaker 2: And I think until you embrace boredom, you're not really

1814
01:25:46,213 --> 01:25:49,652
Speaker 2: embracing yourself. Because from boredom comes great ideas. You know.

1815
01:25:49,853 --> 01:25:53,173
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hendrix famously created as an incredible guitar playing style

1816
01:25:53,213 --> 01:25:55,093
Speaker 2: because he was so bored of playing and bands like

1817
01:25:55,133 --> 01:26:00,612
Speaker 2: Evely Brothers and such. You know, Isaac Newton he came

1818
01:26:00,692 --> 01:26:03,253
Speaker 2: up with Hang on a minute, what did he come

1819
01:26:03,293 --> 01:26:04,052
Speaker 2: up with exactly?

1820
01:26:04,173 --> 01:26:06,852
Speaker 3: I know what a lot of the us are, but

1821
01:26:06,933 --> 01:26:08,932
Speaker 3: what actually was the exact.

1822
01:26:08,692 --> 01:26:10,972
Speaker 2: One when he was so bored hiding from the plague

1823
01:26:10,973 --> 01:26:14,532
Speaker 2: that he came up with with It was Eldre just

1824
01:26:14,532 --> 01:26:16,173
Speaker 2: said I've got to work out out. I'll get back

1825
01:26:16,213 --> 01:26:16,812
Speaker 2: to you on that when I can.

1826
01:26:16,973 --> 01:26:19,172
Speaker 3: That is different though from him. He was just enjoying

1827
01:26:19,213 --> 01:26:21,093
Speaker 3: a nice stay sitting under the apple tree. Then the

1828
01:26:21,093 --> 01:26:22,532
Speaker 3: apple fell on his head and he came up with

1829
01:26:22,572 --> 01:26:23,133
Speaker 3: Newton's law.

1830
01:26:23,213 --> 01:26:26,412
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, no, that wasn't Newton's law. This isn't

1831
01:26:26,572 --> 01:26:30,892
Speaker 2: you know, I'm being pedantic here. Calculus Sorry, he invented

1832
01:26:30,933 --> 01:26:33,652
Speaker 2: calculus in sixteen sixty three because he was bored. Yeah,

1833
01:26:33,692 --> 01:26:36,333
Speaker 2: you know, And so if he had had his headphones

1834
01:26:36,333 --> 01:26:39,053
Speaker 2: on rocking around their guard and he wouldn't have come

1835
01:26:39,133 --> 01:26:42,333
Speaker 2: up with calculus. So being bored can be a creative

1836
01:26:42,372 --> 01:26:44,692
Speaker 2: thing leads you towards creativity o. E.

1837
01:26:44,732 --> 01:26:46,452
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty If you do what

1838
01:26:46,492 --> 01:26:48,532
Speaker 3: Matt does love to hear from you or if you

1839
01:26:48,572 --> 01:26:50,213
Speaker 3: think it's a bit mad, like I do love to

1840
01:26:50,253 --> 01:26:52,053
Speaker 3: hear from you as well. Nine two niney two is

1841
01:26:52,093 --> 01:26:54,532
Speaker 3: the text number, just quickly before we go to the

1842
01:26:54,532 --> 01:26:55,732
Speaker 3: break and get to some phone calls.

1843
01:26:55,893 --> 01:26:56,093
Speaker 2: Yep.

1844
01:26:56,293 --> 01:26:58,492
Speaker 3: Do you think I'm fooling myself when I say that

1845
01:26:58,652 --> 01:27:01,013
Speaker 3: sometimes when I do these activities and I put on,

1846
01:27:01,173 --> 01:27:05,133
Speaker 3: say an audio book, that I think I'm learning that

1847
01:27:05,452 --> 01:27:08,333
Speaker 3: at that time, I'm using that time effectively to learn

1848
01:27:08,452 --> 01:27:11,412
Speaker 3: about something new. You think that I'm probably fooling myself

1849
01:27:11,412 --> 01:27:12,012
Speaker 3: most of the time.

1850
01:27:12,173 --> 01:27:14,652
Speaker 2: No, I think there's there's room for that, but you

1851
01:27:14,933 --> 01:27:17,692
Speaker 2: shouldn't need it, That's what I'm saying. Like, if you

1852
01:27:17,732 --> 01:27:19,492
Speaker 2: want to if you want to listen to an audiobook

1853
01:27:19,532 --> 01:27:22,492
Speaker 2: or read, you know, reading a book's obviously fantastic. I'm

1854
01:27:22,492 --> 01:27:23,972
Speaker 2: a huge fan of that. I'm going to go against that.

1855
01:27:24,452 --> 01:27:26,333
Speaker 2: But if you feel like you cannot go and do

1856
01:27:26,412 --> 01:27:29,173
Speaker 2: something without an audiobook on or a podcast in your ears,

1857
01:27:29,812 --> 01:27:31,972
Speaker 2: or music or something, then I think that's the problem.

1858
01:27:32,053 --> 01:27:34,693
Speaker 2: If you don't can't be comfortable in your own thoughts.

1859
01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:38,612
Speaker 2: You know, it's astinque what I'm saying. You know, like, yeah, yeah,

1860
01:27:38,652 --> 01:27:41,253
Speaker 2: I mean audiobook great, but if you need it, that's

1861
01:27:41,253 --> 01:27:41,732
Speaker 2: the problem.

1862
01:27:41,772 --> 01:27:45,372
Speaker 3: Oh ten eighty, let's get into this. It is fourteen

1863
01:27:45,412 --> 01:27:51,293
Speaker 3: past three, seventeen past three. We're talking about the technique

1864
01:27:51,412 --> 01:27:54,732
Speaker 3: that Matt has employed recently about having no distractions, no

1865
01:27:54,933 --> 01:27:57,492
Speaker 3: music when you're working out, when you're going for a walk,

1866
01:27:57,572 --> 01:27:59,492
Speaker 3: you just are in your own mind.

1867
01:27:59,372 --> 01:28:01,372
Speaker 2: Going to run. Yeah, there's a text here here. I

1868
01:28:01,452 --> 01:28:04,253
Speaker 2: walk a lot, but never have any accompanying noise, even

1869
01:28:04,293 --> 01:28:07,572
Speaker 2: at home. I almost never have the radio or TV on,

1870
01:28:07,572 --> 01:28:11,053
Speaker 2: only just as at this moment the radio. Hey, how

1871
01:28:11,093 --> 01:28:12,013
Speaker 2: are you? Thanks for chuning in?

1872
01:28:12,053 --> 01:28:13,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect, We'll take it.

1873
01:28:13,253 --> 01:28:16,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point about pushing the raw dogging.

1874
01:28:16,692 --> 01:28:20,812
Speaker 2: We are content anyway TV only to watch specific things,

1875
01:28:21,093 --> 01:28:23,133
Speaker 2: then back to silence or reading love it bored them

1876
01:28:23,213 --> 01:28:26,572
Speaker 2: is a foreign word to me. I'm a bit old, Allison.

1877
01:28:26,933 --> 01:28:30,412
Speaker 2: And someone now says, I raw dog to flight by

1878
01:28:30,692 --> 01:28:32,932
Speaker 2: so many texts coming in. Sorry that text jumped back.

1879
01:28:34,333 --> 01:28:36,492
Speaker 2: I raw dog the flight from Auckland to Balley nine

1880
01:28:36,532 --> 01:28:38,852
Speaker 2: hours or so, only flight track and water. Terrible idea.

1881
01:28:38,893 --> 01:28:40,932
Speaker 2: Don't recommend it should have knocked back to TV series

1882
01:28:40,933 --> 01:28:42,253
Speaker 2: and ten Red Whites.

1883
01:28:43,253 --> 01:28:46,612
Speaker 3: The terror apparently highly recommended by Matt, and this one

1884
01:28:46,692 --> 01:28:48,412
Speaker 3: quickly before we get to the phone calls Giday, guys.

1885
01:28:48,412 --> 01:28:50,652
Speaker 3: I run off in about an hour, maybe more. Never

1886
01:28:50,692 --> 01:28:54,133
Speaker 3: have music. It's great for a businessman's mind to just

1887
01:28:54,173 --> 01:28:56,972
Speaker 3: get clear space to work out the next great idea,

1888
01:28:57,093 --> 01:29:00,052
Speaker 3: to solve issues, or even just to see the greatness

1889
01:29:00,053 --> 01:29:02,372
Speaker 3: of nature. I like that. Love it. Just like in

1890
01:29:02,412 --> 01:29:04,892
Speaker 3: the shower, great ideas flow into your mind. It's healthy.

1891
01:29:05,053 --> 01:29:07,692
Speaker 3: Cheers Reagan from Regency Plumbing. Thank you very much.

1892
01:29:07,732 --> 01:29:11,093
Speaker 2: Reagan. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The ideas come to your head.

1893
01:29:11,093 --> 01:29:13,852
Speaker 2: That's what that's that's what I've found. You know, they're

1894
01:29:13,893 --> 01:29:16,093
Speaker 2: not just other people's ideas going into your head.

1895
01:29:16,452 --> 01:29:18,772
Speaker 3: Love it, Dave, how are you God?

1896
01:29:18,812 --> 01:29:21,612
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt Hey, Yes, so we actually read out your

1897
01:29:21,612 --> 01:29:25,532
Speaker 2: text before. So you you run about, you know, thirteen

1898
01:29:25,572 --> 01:29:27,772
Speaker 2: to fourteen kilometers a day, and you never take music

1899
01:29:27,812 --> 01:29:28,093
Speaker 2: at all.

1900
01:29:29,173 --> 01:29:32,372
Speaker 9: And I never don't believe in music on runs. Runs.

1901
01:29:32,532 --> 01:29:35,892
Speaker 9: Runs are purely for the soul and mind and everything else.

1902
01:29:35,893 --> 01:29:38,612
Speaker 9: And that's a good good way of clearing your head. Yeah,

1903
01:29:39,013 --> 01:29:41,572
Speaker 9: not just for business, but just for everyday life.

1904
01:29:41,572 --> 01:29:45,053
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, and so and you. But you are

1905
01:29:45,093 --> 01:29:46,892
Speaker 2: you in your thoughts or do you do you manage

1906
01:29:46,973 --> 01:29:49,852
Speaker 2: to take in you know, the sounds of what's going

1907
01:29:49,893 --> 01:29:51,973
Speaker 2: on around you experience it because sometimes you can just

1908
01:29:51,973 --> 01:29:55,293
Speaker 2: get into your thoughts and you have these horrible thoughts

1909
01:29:55,293 --> 01:29:57,293
Speaker 2: going over you know, have your head arguments you've had

1910
01:29:57,293 --> 01:29:58,693
Speaker 2: with your partner or whatever.

1911
01:29:59,532 --> 01:30:04,333
Speaker 9: I don't have to be those, luckily most of it.

1912
01:30:04,933 --> 01:30:07,333
Speaker 9: My brains are kiss busy all the time. It's always

1913
01:30:07,333 --> 01:30:09,892
Speaker 9: thinking of things and what to do, and you know,

1914
01:30:10,572 --> 01:30:16,333
Speaker 9: visualizing things. And when I was working, you know, full

1915
01:30:16,372 --> 01:30:18,732
Speaker 9: time and stuff like I'm retired now, I'm seventy two.

1916
01:30:19,692 --> 01:30:23,572
Speaker 9: When I was working full time, I was doing spec

1917
01:30:23,612 --> 01:30:25,892
Speaker 9: building for once, and I was doing past streen Sous,

1918
01:30:26,293 --> 01:30:29,972
Speaker 9: I was doing my shares as well. And I'd often

1919
01:30:30,812 --> 01:30:33,253
Speaker 9: when I was running, I'd come up with things in

1920
01:30:33,253 --> 01:30:37,412
Speaker 9: my head or I'd have something I was doing I

1921
01:30:37,452 --> 01:30:40,652
Speaker 9: was trying to solve, and when you're looking at something,

1922
01:30:40,973 --> 01:30:43,892
Speaker 9: you get tunnel vision. When you get out there on

1923
01:30:43,933 --> 01:30:46,093
Speaker 9: a run, you're you're just your heads clear and you,

1924
01:30:46,452 --> 01:30:50,253
Speaker 9: as I say, your your your senses that you know

1925
01:30:50,333 --> 01:30:52,612
Speaker 9: after like I was doing years ago, I was doing

1926
01:30:52,652 --> 01:30:56,692
Speaker 9: really high mileage and I'll be running mostly fifteen twenty

1927
01:30:56,812 --> 01:31:02,532
Speaker 9: k's a day almost and your senses are on right

1928
01:31:02,572 --> 01:31:06,532
Speaker 9: on the high side, and you'd hear people in the distance.

1929
01:31:06,572 --> 01:31:10,053
Speaker 9: You couldn't hear. It's just so it sounds like even

1930
01:31:10,133 --> 01:31:11,772
Speaker 9: the morning. Part of the reason I got out in

1931
01:31:11,812 --> 01:31:14,173
Speaker 9: the morning now is I listened to the toy. So

1932
01:31:14,173 --> 01:31:16,133
Speaker 9: I talked to the toys. Sometimes I whistle to them

1933
01:31:16,133 --> 01:31:20,532
Speaker 9: and teach them a new tune. I've got one. He's

1934
01:31:20,652 --> 01:31:22,492
Speaker 9: he is trying to practice a tune the other day

1935
01:31:22,612 --> 01:31:24,973
Speaker 9: and he could. He got the third note rong all

1936
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:25,372
Speaker 9: the time.

1937
01:31:27,093 --> 01:31:27,692
Speaker 3: It's impresive.

1938
01:31:28,213 --> 01:31:30,732
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think they could talk, but they can

1939
01:31:30,812 --> 01:31:34,012
Speaker 9: limit you. Yes, And we did a lot of tramping,

1940
01:31:34,093 --> 01:31:35,372
Speaker 9: and I used to do the same thing with the bush.

1941
01:31:35,372 --> 01:31:40,412
Speaker 9: It was quite funny. But yes, So you think about

1942
01:31:40,532 --> 01:31:45,013
Speaker 9: things and you you solve problems. Things that seemed so

1943
01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:47,133
Speaker 9: hard when I was out there, and all of a

1944
01:31:47,133 --> 01:31:48,852
Speaker 9: sudden come up with a thought. And well, you came

1945
01:31:48,933 --> 01:31:51,333
Speaker 9: up with some idea and next day you say to

1946
01:31:51,372 --> 01:31:53,372
Speaker 9: your mates, so what do you think of this? That's

1947
01:31:53,412 --> 01:31:56,852
Speaker 9: which you could get from. And I said, I just

1948
01:31:56,933 --> 01:31:59,492
Speaker 9: I come up with these things. And but as I say,

1949
01:32:00,293 --> 01:32:06,333
Speaker 9: solved problems. Clear your head. But you know, I said

1950
01:32:06,492 --> 01:32:08,852
Speaker 9: in a text here, I didn't. I used to drink

1951
01:32:08,893 --> 01:32:12,053
Speaker 9: quite a lot when I was younger, we used to

1952
01:32:12,053 --> 01:32:16,932
Speaker 9: party all the time. But then I think when I've

1953
01:32:17,213 --> 01:32:20,053
Speaker 9: actually stopped drinking was when one day a guy said

1954
01:32:20,093 --> 01:32:21,973
Speaker 9: to me. I said, I said, I'm not going to

1955
01:32:22,013 --> 01:32:24,852
Speaker 9: drink spirits anymore, and I'm going to cut it back

1956
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:26,612
Speaker 9: in my drink. And he said, what's wrong with you?

1957
01:32:26,612 --> 01:32:29,013
Speaker 9: You're not a man anymore. I said, have to be

1958
01:32:29,053 --> 01:32:34,013
Speaker 9: a drinking to be a man. And well, so you

1959
01:32:34,253 --> 01:32:36,732
Speaker 9: find out who your friends start sometimes and often those

1960
01:32:36,772 --> 01:32:40,213
Speaker 9: friends you drink with, if you don't drink with them,

1961
01:32:40,452 --> 01:32:43,972
Speaker 9: they don't want to know you. And I thought, that's less,

1962
01:32:44,013 --> 01:32:48,612
Speaker 9: not a real friendship. And anyway that when I started

1963
01:32:48,652 --> 01:32:52,173
Speaker 9: doing the running, I found my drinking was just got

1964
01:32:52,253 --> 01:32:54,293
Speaker 9: less and less. And I'll go to a party. I've

1965
01:32:54,333 --> 01:32:56,973
Speaker 9: taken two little stuffies or something, and people said, oh,

1966
01:32:57,173 --> 01:32:58,973
Speaker 9: where's your booties And I said, let's it there and

1967
01:32:59,013 --> 01:33:00,932
Speaker 9: they said there's only a bottle or two bottles. I said,

1968
01:33:00,973 --> 01:33:02,932
Speaker 9: Ye'll be lucky if I drink one of them. They

1969
01:33:02,973 --> 01:33:05,412
Speaker 9: didn't think I was. But you know, you went to

1970
01:33:05,452 --> 01:33:08,972
Speaker 9: the party, and I enjoyed the party more than I

1971
01:33:09,053 --> 01:33:13,013
Speaker 9: used to because so I said, signed it high all

1972
01:33:13,053 --> 01:33:16,532
Speaker 9: the time and people look at you, and I said,

1973
01:33:16,532 --> 01:33:21,253
Speaker 9: what's wrong. You're different when you're changed. What's different? And

1974
01:33:21,293 --> 01:33:24,133
Speaker 9: they said your eyes are different. I said, I said,

1975
01:33:24,732 --> 01:33:26,612
Speaker 9: I'm doing a lot of running. I said, I'm focused.

1976
01:33:26,772 --> 01:33:29,412
Speaker 9: I said, you know, everything is just as clear as daylight.

1977
01:33:29,532 --> 01:33:33,732
Speaker 9: And I just found I didn't need all that extra stuff,

1978
01:33:33,772 --> 01:33:35,772
Speaker 9: which is actually quite not really good for you at

1979
01:33:35,772 --> 01:33:36,372
Speaker 9: the end of the day.

1980
01:33:36,452 --> 01:33:38,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your Dave. I mean it sounds like

1981
01:33:38,133 --> 01:33:40,492
Speaker 3: a massive turnaround for you down to running. Do you

1982
01:33:40,532 --> 01:33:42,173
Speaker 3: have a run with a running buddy or is that

1983
01:33:42,253 --> 01:33:44,852
Speaker 3: kind of outside of the remit that running is your

1984
01:33:44,893 --> 01:33:47,013
Speaker 3: time alone to just be inside your own head and

1985
01:33:47,093 --> 01:33:47,532
Speaker 3: never think.

1986
01:33:48,053 --> 01:33:50,012
Speaker 9: Well, the only time I had running buddies is when

1987
01:33:50,333 --> 01:33:52,812
Speaker 9: just when I was doing long, long distance, and that's

1988
01:33:52,812 --> 01:33:56,612
Speaker 9: when you come across the real runners. Yeah, because you

1989
01:33:56,692 --> 01:33:59,133
Speaker 9: find most of the joggers have only shoved within a

1990
01:33:59,173 --> 01:34:02,532
Speaker 9: few k's from home. That's the most. Yeah, in the

1991
01:34:02,612 --> 01:34:05,293
Speaker 9: morning I run. I take off at five thirty in

1992
01:34:05,293 --> 01:34:09,093
Speaker 9: the morning, So I'm up at five take off and

1993
01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:11,812
Speaker 9: I'll be an hour or so, maybe longer.

1994
01:34:12,013 --> 01:34:14,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff, Dave, thank you very much for giving

1995
01:34:14,293 --> 01:34:16,532
Speaker 3: us a buzz. Really appreciate it. Oh eight hundred eighty

1996
01:34:16,772 --> 01:34:19,012
Speaker 3: ten eighty, So I.

1997
01:34:18,853 --> 01:34:21,452
Speaker 2: Guess the question asked, are you okay in your own thoughts?

1998
01:34:21,492 --> 01:34:25,893
Speaker 2: Can can you work without music and podcasts and audiobooks

1999
01:34:26,412 --> 01:34:29,293
Speaker 2: in your ears? You know? Can you can you work out?

2000
01:34:29,333 --> 01:34:31,972
Speaker 2: Can you run with it? Or are you depending on it?

2001
01:34:32,053 --> 01:34:34,333
Speaker 2: And do you want to try it or are you

2002
01:34:34,372 --> 01:34:34,972
Speaker 2: too scared?

2003
01:34:35,093 --> 01:34:36,532
Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to give it a crack. The more

2004
01:34:36,572 --> 01:34:38,213
Speaker 3: I hear about it, the more I like it. I mean,

2005
01:34:38,293 --> 01:34:40,532
Speaker 3: I suppose it's that theory about the shower thoughts, right,

2006
01:34:40,652 --> 01:34:43,452
Speaker 3: is that you have clarity in the showers, because that

2007
01:34:43,612 --> 01:34:47,652
Speaker 3: is probably the one place that you cannot have too

2008
01:34:47,652 --> 01:34:50,253
Speaker 3: many instructions. I mean, you can buy those shower speakers

2009
01:34:50,253 --> 01:34:53,492
Speaker 3: if you really want, but this is kind of taking

2010
01:34:53,532 --> 01:34:54,052
Speaker 3: it outside.

2011
01:34:54,412 --> 01:34:56,572
Speaker 2: Certain I hope you're having cold showers as well, there, Tyler.

2012
01:34:56,572 --> 01:34:59,213
Speaker 2: We'll get onto that in another day. But yeah, wait, one

2013
01:34:59,253 --> 01:35:01,892
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine is the text number

2014
01:35:01,893 --> 01:35:06,133
Speaker 2: twenty four past three.

2015
01:35:07,293 --> 01:35:10,972
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen itams afternoons. Call oh, eight hundred and eighty

2016
01:35:11,253 --> 01:35:12,452
Speaker 1: eighty on Youth Talk.

2017
01:35:12,372 --> 01:35:17,453
Speaker 3: ZB twenty six pass three. We'll go straight to Sue here, Kiday.

2018
01:35:17,213 --> 01:35:20,853
Speaker 9: Sue, gooday, how are you.

2019
01:35:20,692 --> 01:35:24,973
Speaker 3: Very good so doing activities without any form of distraction

2020
01:35:25,173 --> 01:35:28,652
Speaker 3: or anything in your ears, music, podcast, news talk zb

2021
01:35:29,013 --> 01:35:29,492
Speaker 3: you love it?

2022
01:35:30,812 --> 01:35:35,293
Speaker 6: I do, indeed absolutely actually love it. My husband and

2023
01:35:35,333 --> 01:35:39,213
Speaker 6: I we live on an island up in the holiday

2024
01:35:39,333 --> 01:35:42,412
Speaker 6: you golf, so there's just just the two of us,

2025
01:35:42,732 --> 01:35:46,253
Speaker 6: so we don't get a lot of choice actually, and

2026
01:35:46,692 --> 01:35:49,293
Speaker 6: just getting back to yeah, just getting back to nature.

2027
01:35:49,333 --> 01:35:53,972
Speaker 6: It's it's fantastic. And yeah, we both worked full time,

2028
01:35:54,093 --> 01:35:56,692
Speaker 6: so it was just it's busy out there. You know,

2029
01:35:56,772 --> 01:35:58,772
Speaker 6: life is busy, and you just got to turn off.

2030
01:35:59,013 --> 01:36:01,732
Speaker 6: And so this job gave us the opportunity to do that.

2031
01:36:02,173 --> 01:36:04,333
Speaker 2: What are you doing over there? What are your lighthouse keepers?

2032
01:36:04,372 --> 01:36:05,932
Speaker 3: What are you?

2033
01:36:06,013 --> 01:36:06,093
Speaker 11: No?

2034
01:36:07,372 --> 01:36:08,012
Speaker 21: We caretake?

2035
01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:08,572
Speaker 6: Can I later?

2036
01:36:09,293 --> 01:36:10,333
Speaker 13: So I'm on the.

2037
01:36:10,293 --> 01:36:18,812
Speaker 24: Mahones on listening to the Yeah, yeah, can you keep

2038
01:36:18,812 --> 01:36:20,053
Speaker 24: that up?

2039
01:36:19,893 --> 01:36:20,293
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2040
01:36:20,333 --> 01:36:21,652
Speaker 3: That's perfect? How did you get into that?

2041
01:36:21,692 --> 01:36:21,772
Speaker 5: So?

2042
01:36:21,893 --> 01:36:24,772
Speaker 3: How did you come to be caretakers of an island?

2043
01:36:26,293 --> 01:36:29,293
Speaker 6: Friends of ours are doing it up up north and

2044
01:36:30,053 --> 01:36:32,933
Speaker 6: we visited them several years ago and we thought this

2045
01:36:33,013 --> 01:36:37,652
Speaker 6: lifestyle was just wonderful. So came up you care.

2046
01:36:37,492 --> 01:36:39,892
Speaker 2: Taking it forward? Is it? So it's only the two

2047
01:36:39,933 --> 01:36:41,532
Speaker 2: of you on the island at all times? Would other

2048
01:36:41,532 --> 01:36:44,013
Speaker 2: people come? You care taking it for other people?

2049
01:36:44,492 --> 01:36:44,572
Speaker 18: No?

2050
01:36:44,772 --> 01:36:48,933
Speaker 6: Where it's just us. There's this It used to be

2051
01:36:48,973 --> 01:36:52,652
Speaker 6: a busy place, but no more so. This is the

2052
01:36:52,652 --> 01:36:55,532
Speaker 6: two of us on on here. Now we just have

2053
01:36:55,772 --> 01:36:57,772
Speaker 6: boats that kind of pop on every now and again

2054
01:36:57,853 --> 01:37:01,692
Speaker 6: and visitors that come in. But yeah, otherwise, what's it like?

2055
01:37:01,772 --> 01:37:03,532
Speaker 2: I'm seeing other people when you know it's just the

2056
01:37:03,532 --> 01:37:05,053
Speaker 2: two of you and you have your dynamic and as

2057
01:37:05,053 --> 01:37:08,133
Speaker 2: you say, it's quite quiet? Is it? Because I've talked

2058
01:37:08,173 --> 01:37:10,852
Speaker 2: to people before. Actually, Andrew Fagan, I interviewed him, the

2059
01:37:11,213 --> 01:37:14,213
Speaker 2: musician who's also a sailor, and he talks about, you know,

2060
01:37:14,253 --> 01:37:16,692
Speaker 2: his burg long trips out at sea, and he said,

2061
01:37:16,692 --> 01:37:19,892
Speaker 2: how intoxicating it is to see other people after a while,

2062
01:37:20,253 --> 01:37:22,093
Speaker 2: how intense it is. Is that the case for you?

2063
01:37:22,133 --> 01:37:23,972
Speaker 2: How often do you see people apart from your husband?

2064
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:30,013
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is so true. You kind of stand back

2065
01:37:30,053 --> 01:37:31,932
Speaker 6: a little bit. I go and hide a little bit

2066
01:37:31,933 --> 01:37:35,732
Speaker 6: for a while while to come out, like, you know,

2067
01:37:36,013 --> 01:37:38,093
Speaker 6: my husband always is off so short. She'll be here

2068
01:37:38,093 --> 01:37:42,293
Speaker 6: in a minute. I take away while, you know. But

2069
01:37:42,812 --> 01:37:47,052
Speaker 6: that's okay. And you think about what you say to people.

2070
01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:50,372
Speaker 6: You don't have small chats so much. You talk about

2071
01:37:50,412 --> 01:37:54,133
Speaker 6: interesting things or talk about things that happen. I don't know.

2072
01:37:54,173 --> 01:37:57,053
Speaker 6: We tend to talk about birds a lot in the

2073
01:37:57,093 --> 01:38:00,572
Speaker 6: sea and the wind direction in the weather and things

2074
01:38:00,572 --> 01:38:02,612
Speaker 6: that may be boring to some people, but they're not

2075
01:38:02,692 --> 01:38:06,053
Speaker 6: to us. You know, nature is important, and I love

2076
01:38:06,093 --> 01:38:07,852
Speaker 6: the people that are out here. A lot of sailors,

2077
01:38:07,853 --> 01:38:10,612
Speaker 6: a lot of you, a lot of boats. Boats are

2078
01:38:10,652 --> 01:38:13,852
Speaker 6: great people to talk to. You talk about nature, that's okay.

2079
01:38:14,173 --> 01:38:15,253
Speaker 6: You know you should be doing that.

2080
01:38:15,692 --> 01:38:17,852
Speaker 2: And the more you focus on something, if that's where

2081
01:38:17,853 --> 01:38:20,693
Speaker 2: your focus is, then you start to notice the differences

2082
01:38:20,933 --> 01:38:24,372
Speaker 2: in it and it becomes exciting. I've heard you know.

2083
01:38:24,893 --> 01:38:27,772
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just at the start of my journey

2084
01:38:27,812 --> 01:38:31,333
Speaker 2: of not being completely consuming content all the time. But

2085
01:38:31,372 --> 01:38:33,053
Speaker 2: I understand, like if you live near a beach, a

2086
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:35,453
Speaker 2: beach is a different place every day. If you concentrate

2087
01:38:35,492 --> 01:38:38,252
Speaker 2: on it, you see the changes and as the seasons

2088
01:38:38,253 --> 01:38:41,213
Speaker 2: go and it becomes an incredibly exciting situation.

2089
01:38:41,732 --> 01:38:46,932
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, And small talk you realize how irrelevant it is.

2090
01:38:47,452 --> 01:38:49,772
Speaker 6: And for the young ones. I've got young nieces and

2091
01:38:49,812 --> 01:38:53,892
Speaker 6: they come and stay and you know, they talk about

2092
01:38:53,893 --> 01:38:56,532
Speaker 6: their stuff for a while and then you find oh,

2093
01:38:56,652 --> 01:38:58,772
Speaker 6: they're off wondering and looking and talking to the two

2094
01:38:58,812 --> 01:39:03,132
Speaker 6: e's as that gentleman said before, and talking about different

2095
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:06,333
Speaker 6: things and wanting to do different things, you know, which

2096
01:39:06,372 --> 01:39:07,612
Speaker 6: is great, Which is great.

2097
01:39:07,732 --> 01:39:09,972
Speaker 2: Well, stay of life. Did you if you don't mind

2098
01:39:09,973 --> 01:39:12,333
Speaker 2: me asking, Sue, did you and your husband moved to

2099
01:39:12,333 --> 01:39:13,293
Speaker 2: the island.

2100
01:39:14,333 --> 01:39:16,972
Speaker 6: Yes, so it was kind of a semi retirement move.

2101
01:39:17,093 --> 01:39:18,372
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2102
01:39:18,412 --> 01:39:21,572
Speaker 6: We've been here nearly four years, so it was a

2103
01:39:21,612 --> 01:39:25,333
Speaker 6: semi retirement. Yeah. But I wish we did it earlier.

2104
01:39:25,893 --> 01:39:30,333
Speaker 6: But I think it's probably the isolation. It's probably something

2105
01:39:30,333 --> 01:39:31,772
Speaker 6: you would do in your later years.

2106
01:39:32,053 --> 01:39:33,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, if you're in your early twenties

2107
01:39:33,933 --> 01:39:35,732
Speaker 2: and you're looking for a partner, then going off to

2108
01:39:35,772 --> 01:39:37,612
Speaker 2: an island by yourself as a bad strategy.

2109
01:39:37,692 --> 01:39:41,213
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sure, Yeah, there's old pirate.

2110
01:39:41,013 --> 01:39:43,732
Speaker 3: That goes by, that's true.

2111
01:39:43,973 --> 01:39:45,732
Speaker 2: Anyone that does come past, you're probably going to get

2112
01:39:45,732 --> 01:39:47,293
Speaker 2: to know quite well. You know, you're not going to

2113
01:39:47,333 --> 01:39:48,092
Speaker 2: lose them in the crowd.

2114
01:39:49,612 --> 01:39:49,852
Speaker 11: Yeah.

2115
01:39:49,933 --> 01:39:50,532
Speaker 21: I make a lot.

2116
01:39:50,652 --> 01:39:53,613
Speaker 6: I make a lot of muffins, litt of muffins.

2117
01:39:53,692 --> 01:39:55,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then you wait for a bit

2118
01:39:55,532 --> 01:39:57,812
Speaker 2: before you bring them out, till you've come enough to

2119
01:39:57,812 --> 01:39:58,412
Speaker 2: talk to the people.

2120
01:39:59,973 --> 01:40:00,293
Speaker 6: That's it.

2121
01:40:01,133 --> 01:40:02,612
Speaker 2: Oh, well, thank you so much for your call, Sue.

2122
01:40:02,612 --> 01:40:05,293
Speaker 2: That's really really interesting. Look into your life, really appreciate that.

2123
01:40:05,333 --> 01:40:07,572
Speaker 3: Wasn't she great? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

2124
01:40:07,652 --> 01:40:09,933
Speaker 3: is the number of or headlines with Raylene coming up,

2125
01:40:09,973 --> 01:40:12,452
Speaker 3: they will pick up the phonecals again. Nineteen nine two

2126
01:40:12,492 --> 01:40:14,412
Speaker 3: is the text number as well. It is twenty nine

2127
01:40:14,412 --> 01:40:14,692
Speaker 3: to four.

2128
01:40:17,412 --> 01:40:21,053
Speaker 15: Youth talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis It's

2129
01:40:21,133 --> 01:40:24,492
Speaker 15: no trouble with the blue bubble. New Zealand's inflation rate

2130
01:40:24,652 --> 01:40:27,532
Speaker 15: is unchanged for the year to December on two point

2131
01:40:27,612 --> 01:40:31,572
Speaker 15: two percent. The Finance Minister claims it's down to government cuts,

2132
01:40:31,853 --> 01:40:34,253
Speaker 15: but a commentator is pinning it squarely on the Reserve

2133
01:40:34,412 --> 01:40:39,293
Speaker 15: Bank hammering the economy with high interest rates At two

2134
01:40:39,372 --> 01:40:42,812
Speaker 15: unions accusing the government of delaying the Fair Digital Media

2135
01:40:42,893 --> 01:40:47,133
Speaker 15: Bargaining Bill, forcing media to make cuts. Publisher endzed Me

2136
01:40:47,372 --> 01:40:51,412
Speaker 15: has today presented staff proposals to cut thirty eight jobs.

2137
01:40:52,412 --> 01:40:56,452
Speaker 15: The Foreign ministers suggesting Donald Trump's personnel helped make the

2138
01:40:56,532 --> 01:41:01,293
Speaker 15: Gaza cease fire negotiated by Joe Biden's team become reality

2139
01:41:01,612 --> 01:41:06,093
Speaker 15: by insisting it needed to happen. An h and S

2140
01:41:06,213 --> 01:41:09,892
Speaker 15: Chisholm farm in Putarado and its owner have been fined

2141
01:41:09,973 --> 01:41:14,132
Speaker 15: thirty thousand dollars for breaches of pay standards for four staff,

2142
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:19,052
Speaker 15: including minimum pay and holiday and sick leave entitlements. Police

2143
01:41:19,093 --> 01:41:22,772
Speaker 15: are carrying out searchers assisted by Defender's personnel across christ

2144
01:41:22,893 --> 01:41:25,932
Speaker 15: Church in connection to the investigation of a woman's death

2145
01:41:26,133 --> 01:41:31,972
Speaker 15: in Garawahia in December. The century's old incredibly male quest

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. And we're talking about what

2149
01:41:41,853 --> 01:41:45,772
Speaker 3: has been an Internet trend of lake called raw dogging.

2150
01:41:45,853 --> 01:41:47,772
Speaker 3: And I say trend, it's probably not the right word.

2151
01:41:47,812 --> 01:41:50,133
Speaker 3: People have done this for a long time before we

2152
01:41:50,173 --> 01:41:52,412
Speaker 3: got bombarded with technology from right.

2153
01:41:53,973 --> 01:41:55,572
Speaker 2: People did it all the time back in the day.

2154
01:41:56,133 --> 01:41:57,812
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a very small amount of time

2155
01:41:57,812 --> 01:42:01,412
Speaker 2: when everyone's had earbuds and the ability to listen to

2156
01:42:01,452 --> 01:42:06,772
Speaker 2: content and experienced content all the time. We're actually evolved

2157
01:42:07,612 --> 01:42:11,173
Speaker 2: to raw dog life. You know, groups of thirty walking around,

2158
01:42:11,213 --> 01:42:14,932
Speaker 2: nomadic family groups, you know, listening to the birds, knowing

2159
01:42:15,013 --> 01:42:17,892
Speaker 2: nature very closely. This Texas is on nine two nine two.

2160
01:42:18,013 --> 01:42:21,052
Speaker 2: I've walked eight hundred kilometers across Spain twice. The silence

2161
01:42:21,093 --> 01:42:25,253
Speaker 2: is amazing. No phone, no music in my ears. That's

2162
01:42:25,293 --> 01:42:26,093
Speaker 2: from Mark.

2163
01:42:26,293 --> 01:42:28,972
Speaker 3: That's impressive. Why would you do it twice? And again

2164
01:42:29,013 --> 01:42:30,973
Speaker 3: I'm not judging that that's an impressive.

2165
01:42:30,532 --> 01:42:32,293
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you left something behind, had to go back

2166
01:42:32,333 --> 01:42:32,852
Speaker 2: for it. I don't know.

2167
01:42:33,093 --> 01:42:35,372
Speaker 3: Is that one way? Maybe that's one way. Thank you

2168
01:42:35,532 --> 01:42:39,372
Speaker 3: very much. Impressive though, Yeah, Rob, how are you?

2169
01:42:39,452 --> 01:42:39,652
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2170
01:42:39,732 --> 01:42:39,892
Speaker 6: Good?

2171
01:42:39,933 --> 01:42:43,732
Speaker 17: Good Tyler Matt. Yeah, I didn't realize there was such

2172
01:42:43,732 --> 01:42:45,852
Speaker 17: a thing called raw dog and it sort of my

2173
01:42:45,893 --> 01:42:48,932
Speaker 17: ears up today. And I've always thought myself a bit

2174
01:42:48,933 --> 01:42:51,973
Speaker 17: bloody odd because I've done it so much. And I

2175
01:42:52,053 --> 01:42:54,772
Speaker 17: even get hard times from from mates and friends and

2176
01:42:54,812 --> 01:42:56,253
Speaker 17: that because I do a lot of hunting and fishing

2177
01:42:56,652 --> 01:43:00,213
Speaker 17: and they'll say, oh, I went away last weekend. They said, yeah,

2178
01:43:00,293 --> 01:43:01,173
Speaker 17: why did you give me a ring?

2179
01:43:01,732 --> 01:43:01,932
Speaker 11: Wow?

2180
01:43:02,532 --> 01:43:06,333
Speaker 17: No, I sort of forgot, you know. Yeah, maybe next

2181
01:43:06,372 --> 01:43:07,173
Speaker 17: time we'll take you, you know.

2182
01:43:07,372 --> 01:43:07,572
Speaker 18: Yeah.

2183
01:43:07,612 --> 01:43:08,333
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2184
01:43:08,612 --> 01:43:10,572
Speaker 17: But when I went on away, I'll go away for

2185
01:43:11,173 --> 01:43:15,972
Speaker 17: three fool days sometimes a week and don't see anyone,

2186
01:43:16,372 --> 01:43:20,612
Speaker 17: just all by myself, and it's fantastic, And towards the

2187
01:43:20,692 --> 01:43:22,253
Speaker 17: end of the truck you're sort of looking forward to

2188
01:43:22,293 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 17: seeing someone. But after a couple of days, you just

2189
01:43:26,173 --> 01:43:29,732
Speaker 17: really want to get back again. And even fishing this

2190
01:43:30,013 --> 01:43:33,013
Speaker 17: thing that really blows away fishing. I get out in

2191
01:43:33,093 --> 01:43:34,732
Speaker 17: hurricane golf for just two weeks ago. I was out

2192
01:43:34,732 --> 01:43:37,652
Speaker 17: on holiday and found a big work up and I

2193
01:43:37,692 --> 01:43:39,492
Speaker 17: saw the first one there, and you know, to work

2194
01:43:39,532 --> 01:43:42,093
Speaker 17: up as with all the dolphins and gannets and everything

2195
01:43:42,133 --> 01:43:44,852
Speaker 17: again and if your boats turned up. One boat turned

2196
01:43:44,893 --> 01:43:46,572
Speaker 17: up with a guy by himself, and he had the

2197
01:43:46,612 --> 01:43:49,652
Speaker 17: stereo for more at the base, and you know, and

2198
01:43:50,253 --> 01:43:53,572
Speaker 17: and it just spoiled the whole scene because you know,

2199
01:43:53,612 --> 01:43:55,572
Speaker 17: there's so much noise of the gannets at in the

2200
01:43:55,572 --> 01:43:58,933
Speaker 17: water and the dolphins coming up blowing their air, and

2201
01:43:58,973 --> 01:44:00,812
Speaker 17: even if you're not catching fresh, just the water at

2202
01:44:00,853 --> 01:44:03,852
Speaker 17: the side of the boat. You know, when you get

2203
01:44:03,853 --> 01:44:06,732
Speaker 17: close to shore and evening you're fishing by yourself, you

2204
01:44:06,772 --> 01:44:08,973
Speaker 17: can hear the cock pheasants crowing and and all that

2205
01:44:08,973 --> 01:44:11,133
Speaker 17: sort of stuff that you'd miss if you're sitting there

2206
01:44:11,173 --> 01:44:13,812
Speaker 17: with a UI beam or a big stereo on your boat.

2207
01:44:13,973 --> 01:44:16,253
Speaker 2: So Rob, when you when you sorry, I kind of

2208
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:18,972
Speaker 2: slightly missed it. So when you go away on going bush,

2209
01:44:19,093 --> 01:44:21,052
Speaker 2: so how long are you by yourself?

2210
01:44:22,933 --> 01:44:25,372
Speaker 17: Generally just a weekend hunting, so I'll go a Friday,

2211
01:44:25,412 --> 01:44:26,532
Speaker 17: come back Sunday or Monday.

2212
01:44:27,173 --> 01:44:29,692
Speaker 2: Right, So you must think, you must think it's absolutely

2213
01:44:29,812 --> 01:44:32,493
Speaker 2: ridiculous that you know, we're talking today and I'm celebrating

2214
01:44:32,492 --> 01:44:35,253
Speaker 2: myself because I'm going for a seven k run with

2215
01:44:35,452 --> 01:44:38,572
Speaker 2: no headphones on, you know, in the middle of Central Auckland,

2216
01:44:38,612 --> 01:44:40,652
Speaker 2: and and you know, going to the gym and Tyler

2217
01:44:40,732 --> 01:44:43,333
Speaker 2: saying that he wouldn't be able to go to the

2218
01:44:43,372 --> 01:44:47,612
Speaker 2: gym for you know, forty five minute hour long workout

2219
01:44:47,973 --> 01:44:51,133
Speaker 2: without something in his ears. So for you, from your perspective,

2220
01:44:51,133 --> 01:44:54,013
Speaker 2: that must seem crazy that that people can't handle that.

2221
01:44:55,812 --> 01:44:57,492
Speaker 17: Well, No, until now, I thought that I was a

2222
01:44:57,532 --> 01:45:00,972
Speaker 17: weak one. I think everyone else is normal. You made

2223
01:45:01,013 --> 01:45:04,492
Speaker 17: my day, even even guys I work with, you know,

2224
01:45:04,612 --> 01:45:06,612
Speaker 17: like we've got something to do with work, you know,

2225
01:45:06,893 --> 01:45:09,053
Speaker 17: with a session, ready to do something. You know, the

2226
01:45:09,093 --> 01:45:11,213
Speaker 17: first thing that has put the stereo on. And you know,

2227
01:45:11,253 --> 01:45:12,973
Speaker 17: I said, I think I order to the thing and

2228
01:45:13,053 --> 01:45:15,253
Speaker 17: I sort of gripped my teeth and go through it.

2229
01:45:16,692 --> 01:45:18,933
Speaker 17: And now even I've even taken people fishing out the

2230
01:45:18,933 --> 01:45:22,052
Speaker 17: boat and you know the border, so we're the stereo.

2231
01:45:22,173 --> 01:45:24,692
Speaker 17: You know, they go, I'll put this on my phone.

2232
01:45:24,732 --> 01:45:25,293
Speaker 9: I'll play the.

2233
01:45:25,253 --> 01:45:28,732
Speaker 17: Song and even seconds ago and he's in it off

2234
01:45:29,173 --> 01:45:31,173
Speaker 17: and they go, I think you like that music, I said, well,

2235
01:45:31,372 --> 01:45:35,973
Speaker 17: anywhere else, but not here. This is spiratle here you

2236
01:45:36,053 --> 01:45:36,812
Speaker 17: get it and there and that.

2237
01:45:36,973 --> 01:45:39,492
Speaker 3: I imagine if you're hunting, you'd get to a few

2238
01:45:39,532 --> 01:45:43,252
Speaker 3: of those backcountry huts. Surely you wouldn't see those trampers

2239
01:45:43,293 --> 01:45:46,933
Speaker 3: coming with UEI booms and the huts, would you.

2240
01:45:46,933 --> 01:45:49,452
Speaker 17: No, yeah, exactly. But I don't really hurt huts very often.

2241
01:45:50,173 --> 01:45:51,652
Speaker 17: I go to South Island as the hut. We go

2242
01:45:51,692 --> 01:45:53,572
Speaker 17: to it and I'll stay there and I get out

2243
01:45:53,572 --> 01:45:55,772
Speaker 17: of here as quick as I can. And I've got

2244
01:45:55,772 --> 01:45:57,572
Speaker 17: an old mate that comes with me and he stays

2245
01:45:57,572 --> 01:46:00,092
Speaker 17: in the hut, and when I come back, he's cursing

2246
01:46:00,133 --> 01:46:01,492
Speaker 17: and squaring and he's in the hell of a mood

2247
01:46:01,532 --> 01:46:04,492
Speaker 17: because all the vegans have come through and try to

2248
01:46:04,492 --> 01:46:06,572
Speaker 17: correct the life for him. And I've been up in

2249
01:46:06,652 --> 01:46:10,572
Speaker 17: the tops, you know, sleeping on the ground, and you

2250
01:46:10,652 --> 01:46:13,852
Speaker 17: know it's not easy. You know, I'm not not a

2251
01:46:13,893 --> 01:46:16,692
Speaker 17: young fellow. So we'll do some pretty long hours to

2252
01:46:16,692 --> 01:46:19,532
Speaker 17: get where I'm going. But you seem to go to

2253
01:46:19,532 --> 01:46:21,492
Speaker 17: concentrate better when you've got a four or five hour

2254
01:46:21,492 --> 01:46:23,532
Speaker 17: walk in front of you with a pack up, you know,

2255
01:46:23,572 --> 01:46:25,972
Speaker 17: where there's no tracks and you don't know where there's water,

2256
01:46:26,013 --> 01:46:28,532
Speaker 17: where you're going, or were your campsite's going to be

2257
01:46:28,732 --> 01:46:31,572
Speaker 17: the set sort of stuff. It's just it's just just

2258
01:46:31,652 --> 01:46:32,333
Speaker 17: good for your soul.

2259
01:46:32,372 --> 01:46:36,013
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's interesting because say, you know, humans have

2260
01:46:36,093 --> 01:46:39,052
Speaker 2: been you know, our species been around for like between

2261
01:46:39,093 --> 01:46:41,532
Speaker 2: six and two million years, and we've been homosapian sapiens

2262
01:46:41,612 --> 01:46:44,652
Speaker 2: as specific species for three hundred thousand years or something.

2263
01:46:44,933 --> 01:46:47,692
Speaker 2: Nearly all that time, we've slept outside, you know, and

2264
01:46:47,732 --> 01:46:52,452
Speaker 2: now most human beings couldn't an absolute nightmare, Like if

2265
01:46:52,492 --> 01:46:56,532
Speaker 2: I said to you, Tyler, I dare you tonight getting

2266
01:46:56,532 --> 01:46:59,372
Speaker 2: a sleeping bag and just go sleep out under the stars,

2267
01:46:59,853 --> 01:47:01,452
Speaker 2: I don't know, in the middle of a park, in

2268
01:47:01,452 --> 01:47:03,372
Speaker 2: the middle of walkland. You know, we just couldn't do it,

2269
01:47:03,612 --> 01:47:03,933
Speaker 2: could we.

2270
01:47:04,133 --> 01:47:04,333
Speaker 19: No?

2271
01:47:04,532 --> 01:47:05,932
Speaker 3: Well, Rob good, Rob good?

2272
01:47:06,253 --> 01:47:08,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob good, yep, but we can't. With so are

2273
01:47:08,572 --> 01:47:11,772
Speaker 2: away from what we are evolved to be. Then, unless

2274
01:47:11,772 --> 01:47:14,852
Speaker 2: we're in a comfy bed in a house watching TV,

2275
01:47:15,692 --> 01:47:17,973
Speaker 2: then we feel scared.

2276
01:47:18,732 --> 01:47:20,372
Speaker 17: To take a step further, you know, until you've actually

2277
01:47:20,412 --> 01:47:23,173
Speaker 17: gone out in the bush and harvested your own food

2278
01:47:23,492 --> 01:47:25,372
Speaker 17: and brought it back and eating it and know where

2279
01:47:25,412 --> 01:47:28,692
Speaker 17: it's come from. That's just another step as well. Yeah,

2280
01:47:28,853 --> 01:47:31,932
Speaker 17: and I also think people say, oh, you're scared out there,

2281
01:47:31,973 --> 01:47:34,852
Speaker 17: and like in New Zealand overseas maybe with there's beers

2282
01:47:34,853 --> 01:47:37,253
Speaker 17: and wolves or things, but over here, we're the meanest

2283
01:47:37,253 --> 01:47:41,652
Speaker 17: things in the valley really, which you're wetter than. And

2284
01:47:42,853 --> 01:47:43,492
Speaker 17: that's about all.

2285
01:47:43,772 --> 01:47:46,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there was, there is ghosts, and we're all

2286
01:47:46,133 --> 01:47:48,253
Speaker 2: some vampires and stuff that that you imagine in the

2287
01:47:48,253 --> 01:47:51,253
Speaker 2: middle of the night, but they're just not real. It's

2288
01:47:51,293 --> 01:47:53,652
Speaker 2: the mosquitos you need to really worry about. It's only

2289
01:47:53,692 --> 01:47:55,612
Speaker 2: bloodsuckers you need to worry about. Hey, thank you so

2290
01:47:55,692 --> 01:47:57,692
Speaker 2: much for sharing with us, Rob, I really appreciate that.

2291
01:47:58,013 --> 01:48:00,372
Speaker 3: Well. That certainly puts you to shame, doesn't it. I

2292
01:48:00,372 --> 01:48:03,293
Speaker 3: Mean I was already at shame here needing all these distractions.

2293
01:48:03,293 --> 01:48:04,412
Speaker 3: But what Rob is doing now.

2294
01:48:05,013 --> 01:48:08,172
Speaker 2: He's put me to shame for celebrating my small amount

2295
01:48:08,173 --> 01:48:10,013
Speaker 2: of time on my own running and going to the

2296
01:48:10,053 --> 01:48:11,973
Speaker 2: gym with that head gear on. You wouldn't even go

2297
01:48:11,973 --> 01:48:13,932
Speaker 2: to the gym by yourself. Hey, we were talking about

2298
01:48:13,933 --> 01:48:18,293
Speaker 2: that trip, that walk across Spain. Eight hundred kilometer walk

2299
01:48:18,293 --> 01:48:20,532
Speaker 2: across Spain. Apparently that's quite a famous thing. Someone sticks

2300
01:48:20,532 --> 01:48:22,652
Speaker 2: it through. It's called the Cambino My dad did it

2301
01:48:22,732 --> 01:48:26,333
Speaker 2: last year in Spain, Cambino Walk. Does anyone know anything

2302
01:48:26,333 --> 01:48:26,932
Speaker 2: more about that?

2303
01:48:27,333 --> 01:48:29,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, let us know. Eight hundred k walk. Though, I mean,

2304
01:48:29,893 --> 01:48:31,133
Speaker 3: I kind of like the sound of it, but i'd

2305
01:48:31,173 --> 01:48:32,892
Speaker 3: need some music of my years of it's walk. Eight

2306
01:48:33,013 --> 01:48:35,732
Speaker 3: hundred k oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a

2307
01:48:35,812 --> 01:48:38,013
Speaker 3: number to call, eighteen to four Back in a.

2308
01:48:38,013 --> 01:48:43,572
Speaker 1: Moment, Mattieth Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

2309
01:48:43,652 --> 01:48:46,572
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty matt and Taylor Afternoon with the

2310
01:48:46,652 --> 01:48:50,012
Speaker 1: Volvo xc N eighty tick in every box, a seamless

2311
01:48:50,053 --> 01:48:50,892
Speaker 1: experience away.

2312
01:48:50,893 --> 01:48:51,732
Speaker 4: It's news talks.

2313
01:48:51,732 --> 01:48:54,213
Speaker 3: There be good afternoon. It is a quarter to four.

2314
01:48:54,333 --> 01:48:59,572
Speaker 2: It's not the Cambino Way, Tyler, idiot. That's as I

2315
01:48:59,612 --> 01:49:01,692
Speaker 2: read it out, getting a lot of hate. I haven't

2316
01:49:01,692 --> 01:49:05,173
Speaker 2: heard of this. It's the Camino de Santiago, or the

2317
01:49:05,213 --> 01:49:08,732
Speaker 2: Way of Saint James, the pilgrimage walk across Spain that

2318
01:49:08,893 --> 01:49:12,772
Speaker 2: ends at the Cathedral of Santiago de Coma Stata. Wow,

2319
01:49:12,853 --> 01:49:17,213
Speaker 2: that's pretty that looks that's pretty interesting. So that eight

2320
01:49:17,253 --> 01:49:20,852
Speaker 2: hundred kilometers looks like amazing spiritual journey.

2321
01:49:21,532 --> 01:49:24,532
Speaker 3: And apparently there is a documentary film in the Texas

2322
01:49:24,772 --> 01:49:27,452
Speaker 3: is called The Way, My Way, and I've just looked

2323
01:49:27,452 --> 01:49:27,812
Speaker 3: it up.

2324
01:49:28,893 --> 01:49:32,772
Speaker 2: Incredible And is it solo as that is that is it?

2325
01:49:32,933 --> 01:49:36,652
Speaker 2: Are you expected to do it solo? I don't know.

2326
01:49:39,772 --> 01:49:41,293
Speaker 2: I'd have to ask myself why I did it if

2327
01:49:41,293 --> 01:49:44,013
Speaker 2: I if I did it solo as a spiritual experience

2328
01:49:44,133 --> 01:49:47,572
Speaker 2: to sort of better myself, maybe, But if I did

2329
01:49:47,572 --> 01:49:48,933
Speaker 2: it just so I could show off that I've done it,

2330
01:49:48,973 --> 01:49:50,572
Speaker 2: That's That's what You've always got a question when you

2331
01:49:50,612 --> 01:49:51,133
Speaker 2: do these things.

2332
01:49:51,213 --> 01:49:53,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is your motivation for walking eight hundred k.

2333
01:49:53,692 --> 01:49:56,132
Speaker 2: Like, so I booked myself and to run a marathon

2334
01:49:56,173 --> 01:49:57,893
Speaker 2: at the end of this year in Queenstown, right, and

2335
01:49:58,452 --> 01:50:00,532
Speaker 2: I'm training to do it. And I had to seriously

2336
01:50:00,572 --> 01:50:03,572
Speaker 2: ask myself, am I running that marathon for myself? Or

2337
01:50:03,572 --> 01:50:05,652
Speaker 2: so afterwards I can tell everyone that I've run a marathon.

2338
01:50:05,812 --> 01:50:06,973
Speaker 3: You know, I want to here you go.

2339
01:50:07,173 --> 01:50:09,892
Speaker 2: And I'd have to make sure with the Camino Way,

2340
01:50:10,213 --> 01:50:12,652
Speaker 2: before I walked eight hundred kilometers that I was doing

2341
01:50:12,692 --> 01:50:15,492
Speaker 2: it for the right reasons, not though not just so cold.

2342
01:50:15,853 --> 01:50:19,372
Speaker 2: Every dinner party, every room I walked into it was like, hey,

2343
01:50:19,973 --> 01:50:22,412
Speaker 2: someone say, how far away is the bathroom? Well that's

2344
01:50:22,412 --> 01:50:25,412
Speaker 2: about two hundred meters. Interestingly, I walked. I walked eight

2345
01:50:25,492 --> 01:50:26,933
Speaker 2: hundred kilometers.

2346
01:50:26,452 --> 01:50:31,772
Speaker 3: Across is how far I walked in space? That here

2347
01:50:31,812 --> 01:50:32,533
Speaker 3: this afternoon?

2348
01:50:33,692 --> 01:50:34,572
Speaker 8: Good yourself?

2349
01:50:34,772 --> 01:50:35,052
Speaker 19: Yeah?

2350
01:50:35,093 --> 01:50:38,572
Speaker 3: Good? So do you like this idea of let's stick

2351
01:50:38,572 --> 01:50:40,133
Speaker 3: with raw Dog and that's what we've been calling it.

2352
01:50:40,213 --> 01:50:42,052
Speaker 3: But no distractions when you're working out?

2353
01:50:43,532 --> 01:50:44,013
Speaker 13: Uh No?

2354
01:50:44,973 --> 01:50:48,572
Speaker 8: I started quote raw Dog in my cell phone mainly

2355
01:50:48,612 --> 01:50:52,212
Speaker 8: because I got sick of to the old doom scrolling

2356
01:50:52,253 --> 01:50:55,732
Speaker 8: on social media and then and you're just fight, You're

2357
01:50:55,732 --> 01:50:59,133
Speaker 8: picking your phone up all the time. So about a

2358
01:50:59,133 --> 01:51:02,852
Speaker 8: week ago, just stopped taking my phone with me, left

2359
01:51:02,893 --> 01:51:06,333
Speaker 8: it at home, went through, went to the gym, and

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01:51:06,933 --> 01:51:09,132
Speaker 8: started to find that I overcame from traded with everyone

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Speaker 8: out sitting on their phone while I was waiting for

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Speaker 8: a bench. Too free, but just kind of e sperate

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Speaker 8: time I've got I'm not just sitting there soom scrolling.

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01:51:20,572 --> 01:51:22,372
Speaker 8: I've walked out on my phone for work. So I've

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01:51:22,412 --> 01:51:24,812
Speaker 8: worked out how I can turn my iPhone into a

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01:51:24,893 --> 01:51:27,852
Speaker 8: dumb phone, essentially using their system access. So I've only

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Speaker 8: got access to text messages, phone calls and like a

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Speaker 8: couple of other.

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Speaker 24: Things, and instantly feel better about Yeah, instantly feel better Nick,

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01:51:38,213 --> 01:51:40,612
Speaker 24: because you know they've done studies and they ask people

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Speaker 24: as soon as they get off filmscrolling off their phone,

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01:51:42,612 --> 01:51:43,053
Speaker 24: what's there?

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Speaker 2: What's the feeling? The one word that comes into your head,

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01:51:45,933 --> 01:51:48,732
Speaker 2: and the most common word is regret. You get off

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01:51:48,732 --> 01:51:50,692
Speaker 2: your phone and regret, but it also stresses you out.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole of stuff that you you know that

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01:51:53,053 --> 01:51:55,412
Speaker 2: you're eraising your brain and you're wasting your time, but

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Speaker 2: you also come out stressed from it.

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Speaker 7: Nick.

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Speaker 2: So if you found when you haven't had your phone,

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01:51:58,812 --> 01:52:01,412
Speaker 2: that just your overall you know, the time off your phone,

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01:52:01,412 --> 01:52:02,972
Speaker 2: your overall stress levels are.

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01:52:02,812 --> 01:52:08,772
Speaker 8: Lower, oh so much, you know, just quietly a little

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01:52:08,772 --> 01:52:10,772
Speaker 8: bit of anxiety and things. And that seems to sort

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01:52:10,772 --> 01:52:15,012
Speaker 8: of itself out from all of that. Like on the weekend,

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Speaker 8: I took my dog for a walk, put tack them

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Speaker 8: in the car and just left them a note on

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01:52:18,492 --> 01:52:20,293
Speaker 8: the bench and going out for a walk. Don't have

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01:52:20,372 --> 01:52:22,532
Speaker 8: my phone, don't buy the ringing, don't buy the texting.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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01:52:24,253 --> 01:52:26,013
Speaker 8: Four hours later came home. I think there was a

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01:52:26,053 --> 01:52:27,852
Speaker 8: bit of concern that I might have been up to something.

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01:52:27,893 --> 01:52:31,293
Speaker 8: But yeah, I came home and I felt great and

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01:52:31,893 --> 01:52:34,732
Speaker 8: just so much more as I sit there on the couch,

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01:52:34,893 --> 01:52:36,812
Speaker 8: no phone, so I get boards, I'll go up and

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01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:39,053
Speaker 8: do some washing, or go do some cleaning or you know,

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01:52:39,293 --> 01:52:41,012
Speaker 8: you got more time in your day.

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01:52:41,133 --> 01:52:43,452
Speaker 2: Well, well, the thing is as well as we go.

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01:52:43,933 --> 01:52:46,253
Speaker 2: If I don't have my phone. What if someone needs

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01:52:46,253 --> 01:52:48,412
Speaker 2: to get hold of me, of you know, someone needs

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01:52:48,412 --> 01:52:50,372
Speaker 2: to text me or ring mere. It's like, who can't

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01:52:50,412 --> 01:52:53,093
Speaker 2: wait for an hour for your response? There's only very

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01:52:53,253 --> 01:52:57,853
Speaker 2: rare circumstances in your life where someone needs you instantly.

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01:52:58,853 --> 01:53:01,132
Speaker 8: But we're assume we don't want to talk to them.

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01:53:01,213 --> 01:53:05,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you're right, you're kind of held

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01:53:05,532 --> 01:53:07,892
Speaker 3: prisoner by society. If you feel that you have to

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01:53:07,933 --> 01:53:10,412
Speaker 3: get back to everybody at that exact moment. They can

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01:53:10,452 --> 01:53:12,213
Speaker 3: wait a couple of hours or indeed a couple of

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01:53:12,333 --> 01:53:14,092
Speaker 3: days if you so choose.

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Speaker 8: Right, definitely, there's there's not there's very little that would

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01:53:19,732 --> 01:53:23,652
Speaker 8: need to get home in a hurry. And if I'm

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01:53:23,692 --> 01:53:25,412
Speaker 8: not available, I'm not available so bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, love it, and people and people get used

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01:53:27,652 --> 01:53:30,412
Speaker 2: to it as well. They don't they if they you

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01:53:30,452 --> 01:53:32,013
Speaker 2: get what you expect, you know that They've got this

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01:53:32,053 --> 01:53:34,412
Speaker 2: thing where people try to do that email zero inbox

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01:53:34,492 --> 01:53:36,652
Speaker 2: zero thing where they just answer every email to its zero.

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01:53:36,732 --> 01:53:38,133
Speaker 2: But what happens is if you do that, you just

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01:53:38,173 --> 01:53:40,372
Speaker 2: get more You just get more emails, You just generate

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01:53:40,412 --> 01:53:42,333
Speaker 2: more emails because you become the person that answers that.

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01:53:42,772 --> 01:53:45,412
Speaker 2: So if people understand that you don't necessarily answer a

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01:53:45,412 --> 01:53:48,412
Speaker 2: text straight away, then the stress goes down because you

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01:53:48,452 --> 01:53:50,412
Speaker 2: know people, people understand they might not hear from you

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01:53:50,452 --> 01:53:53,213
Speaker 2: from five hours. I mean it used to be when

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01:53:53,213 --> 01:53:55,173
Speaker 2: it came to letter writing, people would be happy with

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01:53:55,452 --> 01:53:58,333
Speaker 2: understand not hearing from someone for months, you know. Yeah,

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01:53:58,333 --> 01:54:01,452
Speaker 2: but we have this pressure on ourselves to always be contactable.

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01:54:02,333 --> 01:54:04,652
Speaker 2: This is pretty funny from someone. Do the person walking

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01:54:04,732 --> 01:54:08,052
Speaker 2: the Comano Way have the beclaim as five hundred miles

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01:54:08,093 --> 01:54:08,812
Speaker 2: on the whole time?

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01:54:09,293 --> 01:54:10,692
Speaker 3: Was that the inspiration for that song?

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01:54:10,853 --> 01:54:11,013
Speaker 18: Yeah?

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01:54:11,053 --> 01:54:13,892
Speaker 2: Five hundred miles? Yeah, Now that would be a challenge

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01:54:13,893 --> 01:54:17,173
Speaker 2: walking five hundred miles listening to the proclaimers five hundred miles,

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01:54:17,293 --> 01:54:18,852
Speaker 2: That would be a test of yours.

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01:54:18,853 --> 01:54:21,612
Speaker 3: Wef give up after one mile. It is ten to four.

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01:54:21,652 --> 01:54:23,973
Speaker 3: We're just about ready to wrap this one up. But

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01:54:24,013 --> 01:54:25,812
Speaker 3: oh it on undred and eighty teen eighty if you

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01:54:25,853 --> 01:54:28,572
Speaker 3: want to get a more squeeze, and it is ten

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01:54:28,652 --> 01:54:29,412
Speaker 3: to fall back in a month.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Virginia.

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01:54:47,413 --> 01:54:47,892
Speaker 2: How are you?

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01:54:48,973 --> 01:54:51,812
Speaker 25: I am very well, thank you, Hey, enjoying. I'm enjoying

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01:54:51,812 --> 01:54:53,693
Speaker 25: the conversation. But I had to I had to call

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01:54:53,693 --> 01:54:55,573
Speaker 25: you up actually to correct that how to chuckle when

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01:54:55,613 --> 01:54:58,253
Speaker 25: you said Cambino walk or whatever you said? So here

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01:54:58,613 --> 01:55:02,253
Speaker 25: coming away is the one. Thank you had had a

2454
01:55:02,293 --> 01:55:04,653
Speaker 25: few friends come, a few friends. Well, there are a

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01:55:04,653 --> 01:55:06,093
Speaker 25: couple of people I know who've done it.

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01:55:06,413 --> 01:55:06,613
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:55:06,653 --> 01:55:09,413
Speaker 2: The thing is, Virginia, we get something wrong and very unfrequently,

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01:55:09,493 --> 01:55:12,852
Speaker 2: probably just about once every twenty minutes, actually once every minute.

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01:55:13,213 --> 01:55:14,892
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you've got a few friends that have

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01:55:14,893 --> 01:55:16,573
Speaker 2: walked the Camino trail. So that's one for people that

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01:55:16,613 --> 01:55:19,812
Speaker 2: we're listening before. It's across Spain. It's about eight hundred

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01:55:19,893 --> 01:55:21,813
Speaker 2: kilometers pilgrimmers.

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01:55:21,973 --> 01:55:25,053
Speaker 25: Yeah, and it is, And it's a pilgrimage here, that's

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01:55:25,053 --> 01:55:28,892
Speaker 25: absolutely right, And it's it's the process really of I

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01:55:28,893 --> 01:55:31,173
Speaker 25: guess it's a bit like the pilgrims away in the

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01:55:31,293 --> 01:55:33,653
Speaker 25: UK and my background in English, but you know, it's

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01:55:33,693 --> 01:55:36,413
Speaker 25: the process of walking from one place to another and

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01:55:37,333 --> 01:55:40,533
Speaker 25: through that discovering your life, I guess, and finding peace

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01:55:40,653 --> 01:55:43,852
Speaker 25: through the simple things and the hardships that of walk.

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01:55:43,772 --> 01:55:46,733
Speaker 3: Like that brings Yeah, and how long? How long would

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01:55:46,733 --> 01:55:48,892
Speaker 3: it take you to do that, Virginia. I suppose it's

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01:55:48,973 --> 01:55:51,493
Speaker 3: up to the individual, But if you were going for

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01:55:51,533 --> 01:55:53,932
Speaker 3: a speed run, how fast could you do it?

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01:55:55,093 --> 01:55:57,893
Speaker 25: I think that kind of defeats the purpose.

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01:55:59,333 --> 01:56:00,613
Speaker 3: Already out, already out.

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01:56:01,733 --> 01:56:05,373
Speaker 2: It's about the journey, not the destination. Tyler, I want to.

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01:56:05,333 --> 01:56:07,693
Speaker 3: Break records here. I'm never going to. But no, I

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01:56:07,733 --> 01:56:09,733
Speaker 3: hear what you're saying. How long would most people take

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01:56:09,772 --> 01:56:10,173
Speaker 3: to do it?

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01:56:11,133 --> 01:56:11,293
Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:56:11,453 --> 01:56:13,733
Speaker 25: Look, I couldn't, honestly say a lot of people just

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01:56:13,733 --> 01:56:15,893
Speaker 25: do bits of it, so there's no requirement to do

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01:56:15,933 --> 01:56:17,852
Speaker 25: the whole thing. And and it's much like the tro

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01:56:17,933 --> 01:56:21,613
Speaker 25: a trail. I'm watching some of my daughter's friends do that.

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01:56:21,613 --> 01:56:24,253
Speaker 25: At the moment they're doing forty k's a day.

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01:56:24,453 --> 01:56:27,573
Speaker 2: So that's about three hundred that's about three thousand, five

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01:56:27,693 --> 01:56:32,093
Speaker 2: hundred k isn't it from from basically from the top

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01:56:32,093 --> 01:56:33,653
Speaker 2: of the country to the bottom. You've got to take

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01:56:33,653 --> 01:56:34,893
Speaker 2: a theory at one point, though, don't you.

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01:56:36,533 --> 01:56:39,812
Speaker 25: Well, well, they seem to be cranking it out, so

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01:56:41,133 --> 01:56:43,573
Speaker 25: they do do it at that speed. But that's the

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01:56:43,653 --> 01:56:46,093
Speaker 25: kind of speed that it could be possible. Of course,

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01:56:46,173 --> 01:56:49,852
Speaker 25: of course the Camino ways through villages and on formed roads,

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01:56:49,933 --> 01:56:53,012
Speaker 25: and it's not so much of the camping. I don't

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01:56:53,013 --> 01:56:55,013
Speaker 25: know if there is any camping. There's a lot of

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01:56:55,053 --> 01:56:56,013
Speaker 25: accommodation all the way.

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01:56:56,093 --> 01:56:59,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, Cape the younger to

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01:56:59,133 --> 01:57:01,892
Speaker 2: the bluff, this tacks here that her husband's are two

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01:57:01,933 --> 01:57:04,812
Speaker 2: thirds away through it very popular at the moment. Three thousand,

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01:57:04,933 --> 01:57:06,373
Speaker 2: three hundred klimeters it has.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible.

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01:57:07,413 --> 01:57:09,293
Speaker 2: So that's going to be a up. It's going to

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01:57:09,333 --> 01:57:11,812
Speaker 2: be over a month in Ireland, doesn't it really easy? Yeah,

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01:57:12,373 --> 01:57:15,133
Speaker 2: not that we're very focused on the duration. We're moving

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01:57:15,213 --> 01:57:18,293
Speaker 2: the point of the spiritual nature. As I pointed out.

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Speaker 3: Virginia, thank you very much, Thank you, have a great afternoon.

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01:57:22,653 --> 01:57:26,012
Speaker 3: All right, I'm convinced Now, this idea of raw dogging

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01:57:26,493 --> 01:57:27,413
Speaker 3: or working out.

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01:57:27,253 --> 01:57:30,133
Speaker 2: Or living with that distraction, you don't have. You don't

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01:57:30,133 --> 01:57:31,693
Speaker 2: have to start with the Camino Trail. You don't have

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01:57:31,733 --> 01:57:35,613
Speaker 2: to start with eight hundred k across Spain. Tyler. Maybe

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01:57:35,693 --> 01:57:38,012
Speaker 2: just go for a run, a five k run without

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01:57:38,053 --> 01:57:40,293
Speaker 2: your headphones on. Just start there and work up from there.

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01:57:40,373 --> 01:57:42,373
Speaker 3: I'll give it a crack and report back. So not

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01:57:42,413 --> 01:57:44,173
Speaker 3: listening to the proclaimers five hundred miles.

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01:57:44,493 --> 01:57:46,892
Speaker 2: We need need some peace, you know, get it one

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01:57:46,933 --> 01:57:49,333
Speaker 2: with ourselves a little bit more. Sounds cliche, but we do.

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01:57:49,453 --> 01:57:51,613
Speaker 3: All right, have a peaceful afternoon, and we'll catch you

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01:57:51,613 --> 01:57:53,133
Speaker 3: again tomorrow.

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01:57:53,613 --> 01:57:55,533
Speaker 2: And give them the taste of care with me.

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