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Speaker 3: EDB killing Good afternoon and welcome into Weekend Sport on

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Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. For Saturday, March twenty one, Happy forty

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Speaker 3: the day since Martin Guptel did this in a Cricket

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Speaker 4: Martin Guptil drives down the crowd four more Stand Up

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Speaker 3: He finished two hundred and thirty seven not out, still

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Speaker 3: Remember in Zammam al Hak who had never really heard

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason pine Shaw, producer Annie McDonald. We're talking sport

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Speaker 3: with you until three o'clock this afternoon. I have seen enough.

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Speaker 3: It seems pretty clear the Hurricanes are going to win

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Speaker 3: Well, they have been named the Hurricanes for a reason

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Speaker 3: rarely impressive win by the Hurricanes against an admittedly pretty

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Speaker 3: poor Highlander side last night. Ruben Love on the show

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Speaker 3: After one first up today, though New Zealand's grassroots rugby

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Speaker 3: scene is facing a new challenge. We don't have enough

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Speaker 3: front rowers. Some clubs are saying the shortage of specialist

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Speaker 3: other rugby clubs are also scrapping their junior fees to

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Speaker 3: increase participation in these tough economic times. So a couple

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Speaker 3: of challenges for the grassroots game. New Zealand Rugby's head

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Speaker 3: seems like it's been an an issue for a little

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Speaker 3: while now getting enough front rowers, because you need obviously

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's grassroots rugby seen is facing a new kind

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Speaker 3: of numbers game in twenty twenty six. While overall participation

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Speaker 3: remains fairly steady, many clubs are struggling to find one

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Speaker 3: very specific type of player. Props and hookers are becoming

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Speaker 3: rugby participation and Development. He joins us now on Weekend Sport. Mike,

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Speaker 3: thanks for your time. Let's start with the first of

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Speaker 3: those two things. How concerned is New Zealand Rugby about

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Speaker 5: Thanks Pinning for having me on. In short, that this

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Speaker 5: this time of year is always a point where clubs

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Speaker 3: Why are they in short, supply.

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Speaker 5: It's a demanding position. I've never played in the front row,

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Speaker 5: So some of the long term works around how do

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Speaker 5: So whilst we want to see contested scrums and premier

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Speaker 3: Your site to hide a specialized position at a physical

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Speaker 3: a bit of work into it. Are we possibly asking

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Speaker 6: Yes, I guess the.

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Speaker 5: now is how much does the community game mirror professional game,

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Speaker 5: And where it's been appropriate, there has been some variations

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Speaker 5: reflective of the capacity of community players. Or only training

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Speaker 5: So how do we make that experience as relevant as

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Speaker 3: I wonder about perception as well, Mike, and I know

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Speaker 3: it's not really your level of the game, but I

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Speaker 3: mean everybody wants to be Reuben Love and Will Jordan,

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Speaker 5: Well, we certainly need to promote the value of the

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Speaker 5: and some may find that once they've become aware of that,

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Speaker 6: Attracted to it.

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Speaker 5: Certainly, in the professional game, those front row players are

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Speaker 5: in really hot demand, and in some cases just as

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Speaker 5: lot of opportunity there for the right kind of player.

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Speaker 3: How much is the underraty five kilogram initiative helped here

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Speaker 3: because obviously, as the way you know, restriction would decree,

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Speaker 3: you've got to be underraty five killers, So you don't

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so been some interesting challenges in ninety five grades

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Speaker 5: that they have confident front rowers who can perform that

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Speaker 5: role with recognizing they are usually under eighty five KO.

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Speaker 5: But it has sort of result in these sort of

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Speaker 6: So there's a real wart of front row specialists.

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Speaker 5: And the pose eighty five strades which really cherished the

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Speaker 3: Do you think rugby still feels like a game for everybody?

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Speaker 5: Particular sort of flocking to that. We've seen eighty five

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Speaker 3: I've heard of this a lot where I live in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: You often hear these stories coming out of clubs, not

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty really keen to hear

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Speaker 3: That creates a real challenge when it comes to developing talent.

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Speaker 3: Twelve twenty eight news Talks. He'd be back with your

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Speaker 3: There'd be twenty nine away from one get to the

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Speaker 3: lines in just one moment, Jason, you use the examples.

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Speaker 3: take your point around Carl Hayman, Jamie, were you a

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Speaker 8: That's what I wanted to play. And I go, okay,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's did you did you enjoy? Did you

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Speaker 8: my I think my first ever game was like a

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Speaker 8: trial game, like a like a pre season thing, and

434
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Speaker 8: and so like I think we I think I let

435
00:24:00,107 --> 00:24:02,587
Speaker 8: the res know and the opposition front row, and they

436
00:24:02,627 --> 00:24:07,347
Speaker 8: were really they're really helpful towards me. I mean, but yeah,

437
00:24:07,427 --> 00:24:12,427
Speaker 8: it's at times in my debut season like I've got that, well,

438
00:24:12,467 --> 00:24:16,107
Speaker 8: you got introduced to some of the dark arts, like yeah,

439
00:24:16,947 --> 00:24:20,827
Speaker 8: I had the instance where where someone would put the

440
00:24:20,907 --> 00:24:25,147
Speaker 8: finkers in my eyes, and and you've got a lot

441
00:24:25,267 --> 00:24:27,627
Speaker 8: of skywards a few times. But I mean, I mean

442
00:24:27,667 --> 00:24:30,427
Speaker 8: I did. Overall, I think I I think I quite

443
00:24:30,587 --> 00:24:32,707
Speaker 8: quite enjoyed the experience about I figured that it for

444
00:24:32,747 --> 00:24:36,987
Speaker 8: about three or four years. Yeah, yeah, so there was

445
00:24:37,067 --> 00:24:38,587
Speaker 8: there's my thing anyway.

446
00:24:39,267 --> 00:24:41,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and as you said, it came about more

447
00:24:41,587 --> 00:24:44,827
Speaker 3: through necessity than anything else. You know, a couple of

448
00:24:45,747 --> 00:24:47,907
Speaker 3: you know, needed a couple more front rowers. I looked

449
00:24:47,907 --> 00:24:49,867
Speaker 3: around to Jamie, you look like you might fit the bill.

450
00:24:49,987 --> 00:24:52,547
Speaker 3: So so it's obviously not a new problem Jamie that

451
00:24:52,627 --> 00:24:54,067
Speaker 3: you know, even back when you were playing. I'm not

452
00:24:54,107 --> 00:24:55,747
Speaker 3: saying that was long a long long time ago, but

453
00:24:56,027 --> 00:24:58,547
Speaker 3: but it's it's not something that's just occurring now. By

454
00:24:58,587 --> 00:24:59,347
Speaker 3: the sounds of things.

455
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, yes, definitely not. You know obvious, See the

456
00:25:06,707 --> 00:25:09,507
Speaker 8: work that they that they do is not not seen

457
00:25:09,587 --> 00:25:11,987
Speaker 8: on the telly. Like you're loft in the line out

458
00:25:12,227 --> 00:25:14,787
Speaker 8: obviously you're scrummaging to clean out the malls and and

459
00:25:14,907 --> 00:25:17,787
Speaker 8: you know, it's you. Probably they get to I mean

460
00:25:18,067 --> 00:25:21,227
Speaker 8: probably these days you get a few more you quite

461
00:25:21,307 --> 00:25:23,067
Speaker 8: likely the one the one with the ball in the open,

462
00:25:23,147 --> 00:25:26,947
Speaker 8: but probably still buy and just many your Lucy's and

463
00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:30,307
Speaker 8: your your in your in your backs. Obviously they do

464
00:25:30,427 --> 00:25:31,827
Speaker 8: most of the moment whenning with the ball.

465
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Speaker 9: So but.

466
00:25:34,507 --> 00:25:38,707
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean it's they're definitely in my opinion

467
00:25:38,747 --> 00:25:41,787
Speaker 8: where they're waiting gold because you know, you need a

468
00:25:41,827 --> 00:25:45,107
Speaker 8: good strong platform for your for your becks, for your

469
00:25:45,107 --> 00:25:49,147
Speaker 8: becks to sort of flourish. And yeah, that's yeah, your

470
00:25:49,187 --> 00:25:51,947
Speaker 8: front rowers is definitely in the cornerstone or type five

471
00:25:52,027 --> 00:25:54,947
Speaker 8: in general. But yeah, well what they.

472
00:25:54,907 --> 00:25:57,187
Speaker 3: Say, Jamie, don't they? They say it all starts up front.

473
00:25:57,627 --> 00:26:00,107
Speaker 3: You ask any rugby player you know, even even your

474
00:26:00,107 --> 00:26:02,627
Speaker 3: flashing grey banks, even of your guys on the backs,

475
00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:05,747
Speaker 3: they will freely admit, in fact that they're very very

476
00:26:06,027 --> 00:26:08,227
Speaker 3: very very very happy to admit that it starts up front.

477
00:26:08,267 --> 00:26:10,187
Speaker 3: They can't do anything without the platform.

478
00:26:10,907 --> 00:26:11,147
Speaker 10: Did you.

479
00:26:11,667 --> 00:26:14,027
Speaker 3: I'm hoping you've got at least one opportunity to run

480
00:26:14,067 --> 00:26:16,467
Speaker 3: in the loose, maybe to run from twenty meters out

481
00:26:16,507 --> 00:26:19,547
Speaker 3: and crashing under the post for a try something like that,

482
00:26:19,667 --> 00:26:19,907
Speaker 3: did you?

483
00:26:20,067 --> 00:26:20,267
Speaker 9: Yeah?

484
00:26:20,307 --> 00:26:23,827
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they'll just yeah, it's just a half of

485
00:26:23,867 --> 00:26:27,947
Speaker 8: those in my career. But yeah, but yeah, and then

486
00:26:27,987 --> 00:26:30,067
Speaker 8: of course and you go to rollymore when then yeah,

487
00:26:30,627 --> 00:26:33,187
Speaker 8: you turn dive ot to the line and it's you know,

488
00:26:33,307 --> 00:26:35,467
Speaker 8: the rest doesn't always see it. So I got there

489
00:26:35,507 --> 00:26:36,187
Speaker 8: a couple of times.

490
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Speaker 2: But anyway, love it.

491
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Speaker 3: Jamie got on you. I got on you for answering

492
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Speaker 3: the call and joining the front row club when you did.

493
00:26:44,827 --> 00:26:47,827
Speaker 3: And I think that's it too. Again, I've never been

494
00:26:47,867 --> 00:26:51,907
Speaker 3: in these environments. I've never played rugby, but it looks

495
00:26:51,947 --> 00:26:55,147
Speaker 3: to me as though front row forwards really revel in

496
00:26:55,307 --> 00:26:58,267
Speaker 3: being part of the front row club. You often see,

497
00:26:58,427 --> 00:27:02,067
Speaker 3: you know after you know, when people post photos after games,

498
00:27:02,107 --> 00:27:03,547
Speaker 3: you often see the All Blacks or it might be

499
00:27:03,587 --> 00:27:05,907
Speaker 3: a super rugby team or whatever, and the front row forwards,

500
00:27:05,947 --> 00:27:08,787
Speaker 3: you know, they're they're battered. You know, their ears are

501
00:27:08,867 --> 00:27:11,747
Speaker 3: bleeding a cauliflower ears, their noses of it bent out

502
00:27:11,787 --> 00:27:13,587
Speaker 3: of shape. You know, they might have a cut above

503
00:27:13,627 --> 00:27:16,107
Speaker 3: their eye, but they there, they are you know afterwards,

504
00:27:16,147 --> 00:27:19,267
Speaker 3: we're the front row club. We are the cornerstone of

505
00:27:19,307 --> 00:27:22,787
Speaker 3: this team, and they take huge pride in that. So,

506
00:27:23,147 --> 00:27:26,707
Speaker 3: you know, I think there's a sense of solidarity as well,

507
00:27:26,827 --> 00:27:31,867
Speaker 3: and certainly pride that they're not a flash Harry. You know,

508
00:27:32,987 --> 00:27:37,427
Speaker 3: they're not somebody who's gonna who's gonna, you know, capture

509
00:27:37,427 --> 00:27:40,227
Speaker 3: all the headlines. But they're fine with that. Maybe it

510
00:27:40,347 --> 00:27:43,787
Speaker 3: suits their personality a lot better just to get their

511
00:27:43,827 --> 00:27:47,307
Speaker 3: head down, do the hard grunt and let others enjoy

512
00:27:47,347 --> 00:27:50,227
Speaker 3: the fruits of that labor. You were in a prop

513
00:27:50,267 --> 00:27:51,507
Speaker 3: were you, George? Were you a prop?

514
00:27:52,987 --> 00:27:53,107
Speaker 11: Uh?

515
00:28:00,627 --> 00:28:02,667
Speaker 3: That's not mad, that's not bad.

516
00:28:03,907 --> 00:28:08,947
Speaker 12: They just hold the silences. Look over there, did you

517
00:28:09,027 --> 00:28:09,667
Speaker 12: play rugby?

518
00:28:10,027 --> 00:28:10,587
Speaker 10: You did?

519
00:28:10,787 --> 00:28:11,867
Speaker 3: When did you play your rugby?

520
00:28:13,427 --> 00:28:17,027
Speaker 12: I played rugby once when I was at high school.

521
00:28:17,267 --> 00:28:19,987
Speaker 12: One game and that was it. I thought, what a

522
00:28:20,107 --> 00:28:22,787
Speaker 12: dumb game. All I do is get demolished and everybody

523
00:28:22,787 --> 00:28:27,067
Speaker 12: else just runs all over the place that I played soccer.

524
00:28:27,187 --> 00:28:30,427
Speaker 12: But the thing I'm ringing about is as my wife

525
00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:35,267
Speaker 12: is a evid rugby watcher on TV, you know, and

526
00:28:35,667 --> 00:28:38,667
Speaker 12: we've got a better TV to watch the rugby better

527
00:28:39,707 --> 00:28:41,187
Speaker 12: and all that sort of stuff. But the thing that

528
00:28:41,307 --> 00:28:45,227
Speaker 12: gets me is the scrum. You're talking about. These guys,

529
00:28:45,467 --> 00:28:49,627
Speaker 12: big guys, getting down, pushing and locking and grunting and

530
00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:53,307
Speaker 12: producing steam in the middle of winter, you know, as

531
00:28:53,347 --> 00:28:55,867
Speaker 12: if there are a bailing pot of pot.

532
00:28:55,707 --> 00:28:56,267
Speaker 13: Pourri and.

533
00:28:58,067 --> 00:28:59,827
Speaker 12: It's all down. They're all ready to go with that,

534
00:28:59,987 --> 00:29:02,427
Speaker 12: pushing like crazy. The guy puts the ball in to

535
00:29:02,587 --> 00:29:06,227
Speaker 12: the feet of his own team, where he runs around

536
00:29:06,227 --> 00:29:08,907
Speaker 12: and just picks it up. The scrum hasn't done anything,

537
00:29:09,587 --> 00:29:11,867
Speaker 12: and you go one of that men. They're not getting hurt,

538
00:29:11,907 --> 00:29:14,987
Speaker 12: so I suppose that's a plus. But I remember watching

539
00:29:15,067 --> 00:29:18,787
Speaker 12: rugby in the seventies the ball went and straight and

540
00:29:18,907 --> 00:29:22,347
Speaker 12: the scrum went over the ball until one side claimed

541
00:29:22,387 --> 00:29:26,067
Speaker 12: it with their feet. That's totally gone. This is crap

542
00:29:26,227 --> 00:29:28,307
Speaker 12: now with a scrum where they just throw the ball

543
00:29:28,427 --> 00:29:30,947
Speaker 12: straight to the feet of their own people, the last

544
00:29:31,187 --> 00:29:33,827
Speaker 12: people on their side, and he runs around, just picks

545
00:29:33,827 --> 00:29:36,347
Speaker 12: it up out of the feet. What's your comment on that?

546
00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:39,507
Speaker 3: Yeah, you do still get the odd tight head. Am

547
00:29:39,587 --> 00:29:42,227
Speaker 3: not not as regularly as you used to, George. I'll

548
00:29:42,267 --> 00:29:44,307
Speaker 3: give you that. It's not as common as it used to.

549
00:29:44,307 --> 00:29:48,787
Speaker 12: Be, and it's very it's very rare you see the

550
00:29:48,867 --> 00:29:51,667
Speaker 12: scrum moving over the ball because it's already gone out.

551
00:29:52,947 --> 00:29:54,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least we haven't got to the point of

552
00:29:54,987 --> 00:29:58,587
Speaker 3: rugby league where in rugby where the you know, the

553
00:29:58,987 --> 00:30:01,467
Speaker 3: half back just puts it basically under the feet of

554
00:30:01,587 --> 00:30:03,747
Speaker 3: the loose sward at the back. You know, it's just

555
00:30:03,947 --> 00:30:05,587
Speaker 3: they don't even push in the scrum and rugby league,

556
00:30:05,587 --> 00:30:06,907
Speaker 3: do they. It's just a way to rea start play.

557
00:30:07,227 --> 00:30:09,067
Speaker 3: I think at least there is still some set piece

558
00:30:09,147 --> 00:30:13,147
Speaker 3: dominance to be asserted at scrum time in rugby, more

559
00:30:13,187 --> 00:30:15,187
Speaker 3: so than rugby league, way more so than rugby league.

560
00:30:16,347 --> 00:30:18,707
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I mean everyone loves a tight head,

561
00:30:18,747 --> 00:30:20,627
Speaker 3: don't they. Well, they do if you if it's not

562
00:30:20,707 --> 00:30:23,067
Speaker 3: against you, they do love it when you when your

563
00:30:23,747 --> 00:30:26,547
Speaker 3: forwards just put the shove on and rumble over the

564
00:30:26,627 --> 00:30:29,627
Speaker 3: top and walk their way forward and claim the tight head.

565
00:30:29,867 --> 00:30:32,347
Speaker 3: But it's getting rare, George, it's getting rareer. Good to

566
00:30:32,427 --> 00:30:35,107
Speaker 3: hear from your mate. Love the comment about props. As

567
00:30:35,147 --> 00:30:37,067
Speaker 3: a former prop says this text, I would say front

568
00:30:37,147 --> 00:30:40,627
Speaker 3: row should automatically qualify for a doctorate in the dark

569
00:30:40,787 --> 00:30:46,067
Speaker 3: Arts once they achieved super rugby level, and Roger the

570
00:30:46,147 --> 00:30:51,187
Speaker 3: backs should wash and polish their cars every week. Did I, Greg,

571
00:30:51,227 --> 00:30:52,587
Speaker 3: you spend any time in the front row?

572
00:30:53,507 --> 00:30:56,187
Speaker 14: May I've spent three games in the front row.

573
00:30:58,907 --> 00:30:59,267
Speaker 8: Celtics.

574
00:30:59,307 --> 00:31:01,347
Speaker 14: I've played you a couple of times at football finally

575
00:31:01,387 --> 00:31:04,667
Speaker 14: and the Masters. But when I first this school, I

576
00:31:04,747 --> 00:31:06,467
Speaker 14: worked for Celtic Soil and we used to have and

577
00:31:06,547 --> 00:31:09,227
Speaker 14: to oil competition and so you played the other three

578
00:31:09,267 --> 00:31:14,067
Speaker 14: other oil companies, Mobile, BP and Shell and Rock up

579
00:31:14,107 --> 00:31:16,387
Speaker 14: to a game and we need a hooker and there

580
00:31:16,467 --> 00:31:19,467
Speaker 14: was obviously no one who wanted the hooker. So ow

581
00:31:19,947 --> 00:31:21,707
Speaker 14: Andrew Smith. I don't know if you remember that name

582
00:31:21,747 --> 00:31:26,427
Speaker 14: from me. I remember remember he pointed at me and said,

583
00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,147
Speaker 14: you're you're hoker.

584
00:31:27,227 --> 00:31:27,627
Speaker 6: You look So.

585
00:31:29,747 --> 00:31:32,027
Speaker 14: We had two senior popsies aside of me, and we

586
00:31:32,107 --> 00:31:34,307
Speaker 14: hit to play Mobile Isle in the first game. And

587
00:31:34,427 --> 00:31:38,387
Speaker 14: guess he worked for Mobile aill packer read Oh god,

588
00:31:39,347 --> 00:31:40,147
Speaker 14: I kid you not.

589
00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:40,947
Speaker 9: He was.

590
00:31:41,867 --> 00:31:44,027
Speaker 14: He was retired by the stage, but he was still

591
00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:47,787
Speaker 14: a pretty impressive looking dude. And the first gram who

592
00:31:47,907 --> 00:31:49,947
Speaker 14: just looked at me and he had a big smile

593
00:31:50,027 --> 00:31:51,987
Speaker 14: on his face and said, don't made I look after you,

594
00:31:52,547 --> 00:31:55,627
Speaker 14: and he did. He stopped me from getting my head

595
00:31:55,627 --> 00:32:00,747
Speaker 14: twisted off. I swear it. I still got the upmost

596
00:32:00,787 --> 00:32:04,107
Speaker 14: respect at any front row guys, because it's a dark

597
00:32:04,187 --> 00:32:06,747
Speaker 14: heart and my body was going in all sorts of

598
00:32:06,787 --> 00:32:08,667
Speaker 14: different directions that they really didn't want it to go.

599
00:32:08,907 --> 00:32:12,347
Speaker 14: So yeah, yeah, that was my funny story.

600
00:32:13,667 --> 00:32:16,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, good old Eddie Smith too for chucking you in

601
00:32:16,587 --> 00:32:19,987
Speaker 3: there as well in the front row. Good on you, Greg.

602
00:32:19,987 --> 00:32:21,867
Speaker 3: I have to see around the around the master's fields

603
00:32:21,907 --> 00:32:24,227
Speaker 3: again soon, mate, Thanks for calling in. I think they

604
00:32:24,307 --> 00:32:26,667
Speaker 3: have they have a not just a level that Greek's

605
00:32:26,667 --> 00:32:29,707
Speaker 3: talking about there, but at most rugby levels there's an

606
00:32:29,787 --> 00:32:33,547
Speaker 3: unwritten rule, isn't there if somebody yells out neck during

607
00:32:33,627 --> 00:32:35,867
Speaker 3: a scrum, everybody just stops pushing.

608
00:32:37,027 --> 00:32:37,147
Speaker 9: Is that?

609
00:32:37,507 --> 00:32:39,907
Speaker 3: Is that still a thing? I remember hearing about that

610
00:32:39,947 --> 00:32:42,587
Speaker 3: a little while ago that basically, if somebody in the

611
00:32:42,667 --> 00:32:46,187
Speaker 3: type five normally gets themselves into trouble and starts there

612
00:32:46,427 --> 00:32:49,427
Speaker 3: to feel that their neck is under undue pressure, they

613
00:32:49,547 --> 00:32:53,067
Speaker 3: just yell out neck and people just stop pushing. I

614
00:32:53,147 --> 00:32:54,107
Speaker 3: hope that's still the case.

615
00:32:54,747 --> 00:32:58,387
Speaker 11: Tell us hi, mate, Yeah, well that didn't help my

616
00:32:58,507 --> 00:33:03,627
Speaker 11: neighbor who is still in the wheelchair after thirty forty years.

617
00:33:04,307 --> 00:33:09,547
Speaker 11: So yeah, from a rows so back in those days,

618
00:33:09,667 --> 00:33:13,707
Speaker 11: you know, it's very yeah accepted that this part of

619
00:33:13,747 --> 00:33:16,147
Speaker 11: being a front row you're just going to get possibly

620
00:33:16,827 --> 00:33:22,027
Speaker 11: neck injury. But Pioney, every sport evolved where what we're

621
00:33:22,067 --> 00:33:27,427
Speaker 11: seeing very slowly is rugby evolving away from contested scrums.

622
00:33:27,507 --> 00:33:30,947
Speaker 11: And maybe at international level there'll still be like wire

623
00:33:31,147 --> 00:33:35,267
Speaker 11: gladiators club, you know, pull on props and that sort

624
00:33:35,267 --> 00:33:37,387
Speaker 11: of thing. But at the local level, I think we're

625
00:33:37,467 --> 00:33:42,707
Speaker 11: moving away. You know, kids now play touch rugby or league,

626
00:33:42,827 --> 00:33:47,667
Speaker 11: so rugby union, I think is slowly evolving into a

627
00:33:47,747 --> 00:33:48,347
Speaker 11: different game.

628
00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:49,707
Speaker 6: That's why I take on it.

629
00:33:50,347 --> 00:33:52,947
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess the shape of props is changing

630
00:33:52,987 --> 00:33:54,747
Speaker 3: a little bit as well, Dallas, and that there are

631
00:33:54,787 --> 00:33:56,587
Speaker 3: different I mean, look at to Mighty Williams. He's a

632
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:58,987
Speaker 3: very tall man, isn't he. You know, there's no way

633
00:33:59,387 --> 00:34:00,907
Speaker 3: like his height would have would have played in the

634
00:34:00,907 --> 00:34:03,867
Speaker 3: front row a few years ago. He's starting to get

635
00:34:03,907 --> 00:34:06,827
Speaker 3: different shapes of front rows. That's it's all going to be.

636
00:34:06,907 --> 00:34:08,827
Speaker 3: You know, heavy guys. I mean, I don't think you

637
00:34:08,987 --> 00:34:10,907
Speaker 3: play in the front row if you're less than about

638
00:34:10,907 --> 00:34:13,027
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten kigs. But but no, I know

639
00:34:13,107 --> 00:34:16,187
Speaker 3: what you mean. It's it's and often you know, you

640
00:34:16,947 --> 00:34:19,067
Speaker 3: hear the stuff, don't you that the scrummers being deep owered.

641
00:34:19,107 --> 00:34:23,267
Speaker 3: That's what the Northern Hemisphere are accusing Super Rugby of now, saying, hey,

642
00:34:23,347 --> 00:34:25,187
Speaker 3: you know there's these new rules you're bringing in, you're

643
00:34:25,227 --> 00:34:26,587
Speaker 3: basically depowering set piece.

644
00:34:27,467 --> 00:34:28,867
Speaker 15: Well, it's just an evolution.

645
00:34:29,187 --> 00:34:29,907
Speaker 16: It's very slow.

646
00:34:29,947 --> 00:34:32,587
Speaker 11: You don't notice it until after about you know, a

647
00:34:32,667 --> 00:34:35,627
Speaker 11: few years. Then you know, oh yeah, because rugby is

648
00:34:35,627 --> 00:34:39,187
Speaker 11: always evolving anyway. Every year there's there's new tweets of

649
00:34:39,267 --> 00:34:42,747
Speaker 11: the rules out there, and so that Parney hack come.

650
00:34:42,787 --> 00:34:45,347
Speaker 11: You never played the game. You're currently a tall timber.

651
00:34:45,547 --> 00:34:46,667
Speaker 11: You could have would have read a lot.

652
00:34:47,267 --> 00:34:49,667
Speaker 3: Honestly, a Dallas I would have been blown over by

653
00:34:49,707 --> 00:34:52,027
Speaker 3: a decent gust of wind, and as you know in

654
00:34:52,107 --> 00:34:55,547
Speaker 3: Wellington we have some fairly decent gusts of wind. I'm

655
00:34:55,547 --> 00:35:00,747
Speaker 3: actually I'm lying. It's an untruth of sorts. I played.

656
00:35:00,947 --> 00:35:03,867
Speaker 3: I played two seasons of junior rugby, and I was

657
00:35:04,467 --> 00:35:07,947
Speaker 3: without question the worst player in both of those teams

658
00:35:08,627 --> 00:35:10,587
Speaker 3: as an eight year old and a nine year old.

659
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Speaker 3: So I soon worked out, In fact, I think my

660
00:35:14,107 --> 00:35:16,267
Speaker 3: parents worked out that it wasn't the game for me,

661
00:35:17,147 --> 00:35:20,107
Speaker 3: and so they took me down to two as it

662
00:35:20,227 --> 00:35:22,467
Speaker 3: was called in those days soccer registrations, and I think

663
00:35:22,507 --> 00:35:25,227
Speaker 3: I found more of a natural home there. Good to

664
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Speaker 3: Chet Deadellis, thanks for calling in mate. Quarter to one

665
00:35:28,387 --> 00:35:33,587
Speaker 3: will address the financial barriers to keeping kids in our game.

666
00:35:33,987 --> 00:35:36,067
Speaker 3: A couple of clubs around the country are doing something

667
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Speaker 3: about it, including the oldest rugby club in New Zealand

668
00:35:39,507 --> 00:35:41,947
Speaker 3: who have scrapped their junior fees. We'll find out more

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Speaker 3: about that in the moment.

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Speaker 1: No TMO, no DRS, just your call on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason Paine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gardner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder news Talk.

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Speaker 3: V coming up twelve to one. An increasing number of

674
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Speaker 3: rugby clubs around the country are looking at ways to

675
00:35:59,507 --> 00:36:02,347
Speaker 3: remove financial barriers and keep kids in the game, and

676
00:36:02,467 --> 00:36:05,667
Speaker 3: the country's oldest club is leading the way by making

677
00:36:05,867 --> 00:36:10,987
Speaker 3: junior rugby completely free. Nelson Rugby Football Club is scrapping

678
00:36:11,107 --> 00:36:14,347
Speaker 3: junior fees to make the sport more accessible, with strong

679
00:36:14,507 --> 00:36:18,787
Speaker 3: backing from the community. Junior club captain Lisa Trusler has

680
00:36:18,867 --> 00:36:21,707
Speaker 3: been heavily involved in the initiative and she joins us Now, Lisa,

681
00:36:21,747 --> 00:36:24,827
Speaker 3: where did the idea come from to remove junior fees

682
00:36:24,987 --> 00:36:26,467
Speaker 3: all together this season?

683
00:36:27,587 --> 00:36:31,107
Speaker 17: Well, it actually was first discussed a few years ago

684
00:36:31,587 --> 00:36:35,507
Speaker 17: one of our committee members, Quentin Harwood. He actually read

685
00:36:35,547 --> 00:36:40,027
Speaker 17: an article about other clubs that had done this, so

686
00:36:40,107 --> 00:36:42,307
Speaker 17: we're definitely not the first out there to do it.

687
00:36:43,787 --> 00:36:47,467
Speaker 17: And we started discussing that and of course financially it

688
00:36:47,587 --> 00:36:51,347
Speaker 17: might not have been the best way forward, but over

689
00:36:51,427 --> 00:36:53,387
Speaker 17: the last couple of years we've kind of put our

690
00:36:53,467 --> 00:36:56,347
Speaker 17: heads together and said, actually, this is the only way forward,

691
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Speaker 17: you know, like, just to get the kids out there

692
00:37:00,267 --> 00:37:03,707
Speaker 17: playing is what we really want to see.

693
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Speaker 3: What were you seeing at club level and in your

694
00:37:06,827 --> 00:37:11,747
Speaker 3: community that suggested cost was becoming a real barrier for families.

695
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Speaker 17: I think it's just that, you know, families all over

696
00:37:17,027 --> 00:37:19,827
Speaker 17: are just struggling financially at the moment, and of course

697
00:37:19,947 --> 00:37:23,707
Speaker 17: sport is probably one of those things that just unfortunately

698
00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:28,707
Speaker 17: fall off the end. And yeah, so so we just

699
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:30,947
Speaker 17: want to do whatever we can to to get people

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Speaker 17: back into it.

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Speaker 3: Incredible. So how big a decision was it financially because

702
00:37:34,787 --> 00:37:37,587
Speaker 3: as you say, you know you count on junior subs,

703
00:37:37,627 --> 00:37:40,187
Speaker 3: don't you as part of your balance sheet? So how

704
00:37:40,227 --> 00:37:42,627
Speaker 3: did you find the balance between want and more participation?

705
00:37:42,947 --> 00:37:46,947
Speaker 3: But also you know, taking that financial hit as a club, well, I.

706
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Speaker 17: Think we've got a really good community and so there

707
00:37:51,107 --> 00:37:54,347
Speaker 17: is people that are offering donations or still want to

708
00:37:54,427 --> 00:37:57,547
Speaker 17: pay their subs, so of course we asked, you know,

709
00:37:57,827 --> 00:38:00,107
Speaker 17: like if they are willing and they want to, then

710
00:38:00,187 --> 00:38:04,027
Speaker 17: that's great. But we've also got families that can help

711
00:38:04,067 --> 00:38:06,307
Speaker 17: out in other ways. Maybe they've got something they want

712
00:38:06,387 --> 00:38:10,027
Speaker 17: I donate towards the raffle and that's their way of

713
00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:11,307
Speaker 17: giving back.

714
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Speaker 3: Have you had a good reaction? Have you had a

715
00:38:14,747 --> 00:38:17,987
Speaker 3: few more expressions of interest? You know, Junior sup perhaps

716
00:38:18,107 --> 00:38:21,067
Speaker 3: might not have played previously, but under this new scheme

717
00:38:21,107 --> 00:38:22,107
Speaker 3: they might be able to.

718
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Speaker 17: Yeah, we absolutely have. I feel like my phone hasn't

719
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Speaker 17: stopped ringing, and it's just from like like little Wii

720
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Speaker 17: ones wanting to wanting to give it a go. But

721
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Speaker 17: I think it's just given everybody, you know, that push

722
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Speaker 17: that they needed to registration.

723
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Speaker 3: As you say, free, but there are other costs out there,

724
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Speaker 3: like boots and gear. But I think you're doing doing

725
00:38:42,347 --> 00:38:44,267
Speaker 3: you mentioned a couple before, you're doing things to help

726
00:38:44,347 --> 00:38:45,627
Speaker 3: reduce those barriers as well.

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00:38:46,507 --> 00:38:46,707
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Absolutely, And we've got a boot swap box so at

729
00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:54,827
Speaker 17: the club rooms, once somebody's outgrowing their boots, they'll bring

730
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Speaker 17: them in and somebody else can come and come and

731
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Speaker 17: have a look and see if they fit. And take

732
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Speaker 17: them and we do that with hid gear and lots

733
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Speaker 17: of other rugby items as well.

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Speaker 3: Do you think other clubs are out the country should

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Speaker 3: consider this.

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Speaker 5: I hope they do.

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Speaker 17: I really really hope they do, and not not only rugby,

738
00:39:15,307 --> 00:39:18,467
Speaker 17: you know, lots of other other sports out there. It

739
00:39:18,507 --> 00:39:20,627
Speaker 17: would be great to see the kids out there just

740
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Speaker 17: doing it.

741
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Speaker 3: Do you have you got support from this from any

742
00:39:23,907 --> 00:39:25,747
Speaker 3: apart from hey, you're doing a great job from Nelson

743
00:39:25,787 --> 00:39:28,107
Speaker 3: Bays from or from the Tasman Rugby Union rather, I

744
00:39:28,187 --> 00:39:30,707
Speaker 3: mean have they have they offered support in any way?

745
00:39:30,787 --> 00:39:33,747
Speaker 3: And and might this be something that they might look

746
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Speaker 3: at doing in a more material way?

747
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Speaker 17: I would like to hope. So, like you know, like

748
00:39:40,907 --> 00:39:44,027
Speaker 17: it's this is so new, it's only kind of just

749
00:39:44,227 --> 00:39:47,987
Speaker 17: starting to get out there. So yeah, hopefully in the

750
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Speaker 17: future it will be you know, a big thing for everybody.

751
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Speaker 3: Lisa, What do you see kids getting out of rugby

752
00:39:54,467 --> 00:39:57,587
Speaker 3: that that makes it worth fighting to keep it accessible?

753
00:39:59,187 --> 00:40:03,107
Speaker 17: Look confidence team sport, you know, like just that whole connection,

754
00:40:03,707 --> 00:40:07,547
Speaker 17: feeling like they belong somewhere, you know, like some kids

755
00:40:07,627 --> 00:40:10,507
Speaker 17: are missing there in Yes, that's what we want.

756
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Speaker 3: To bring and those on the sidelines. Two the connects

757
00:40:12,947 --> 00:40:14,347
Speaker 3: families too, for sure, doesn't it.

758
00:40:14,587 --> 00:40:17,867
Speaker 17: Ah, Absolutely, yeah, No, it's a whole family affair.

759
00:40:18,427 --> 00:40:20,667
Speaker 3: Amazing and the weather and the weather's always good down

760
00:40:20,707 --> 00:40:22,667
Speaker 3: your way even in the winter as well, so it

761
00:40:22,747 --> 00:40:23,427
Speaker 3: couldn't be better.

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Speaker 17: It wasn't so flace last season.

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Speaker 3: But we've got our fingers crossed for this souven amazing

764
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Speaker 3: initiative that you that you've brought and Lisa and Id'll

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00:40:31,787 --> 00:40:34,667
Speaker 3: have a hugely positive flow on effect. Thanks for joining

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Speaker 3: us and telling us all about it. Thanks for having

767
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Speaker 3: mete No, thanks for joining us, Lisa. Lisa Trusseler their

768
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Speaker 3: junior club captain at the Nelson Rugby Football Club. They

769
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Speaker 3: have scrapped their junior fees to make the sport the

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Speaker 3: sport more accessible. In twenty twenty six seven Away from

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Speaker 3: One US stalksb.

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Speaker 1: The big Names and the big Calls on your home

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Speaker 1: of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Fine News Talks MB.

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Speaker 3: Four to one. Just on the subject of accessibility. Just

775
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Speaker 3: been sent a link to a company or a website

776
00:41:02,947 --> 00:41:07,947
Speaker 3: replay dot org, dot n z. They connect quality donated

777
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Speaker 3: sports gear to verified community need across then across the country.

778
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Speaker 3: So basically, if you've got gear. You can donate in particular,

779
00:41:17,067 --> 00:41:19,947
Speaker 3: things like boots and other things. They will take your

780
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Speaker 3: donations and then pass them on to those who would

781
00:41:23,707 --> 00:41:26,067
Speaker 3: get some great use out of them. Replay dot org,

782
00:41:26,587 --> 00:41:28,587
Speaker 3: dot n z. Thank you so much for sending that

783
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Speaker 3: through on text. And a great hour chatting community rugby.

784
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Speaker 3: Let's go to Super Rugby after one o'clock. The Hurricanes

785
00:41:37,907 --> 00:41:40,427
Speaker 3: impressing under the roof and Dunedin last night, but the

786
00:41:40,547 --> 00:41:43,347
Speaker 3: Chiefs throwing away a big lead to lose. We'll get

787
00:41:43,387 --> 00:41:44,867
Speaker 3: inside both camps after one.

788
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Speaker 2: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues head

789
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Speaker 2: off the field. You got a score enough.

790
00:41:53,667 --> 00:41:56,747
Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your

791
00:41:56,827 --> 00:42:00,107
Speaker 1: home of Sports News talksb.

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Speaker 3: Hello, welcome into the show. Welcome back to the show.

793
00:42:02,547 --> 00:42:04,907
Speaker 3: Seven past one. I'm Jason Pine and A McDonald Running

794
00:42:04,907 --> 00:42:07,227
Speaker 3: the Cutter, playing food. Who is five? If you like

795
00:42:07,587 --> 00:42:11,747
Speaker 3: controlling matters, We're had till three, talking sport rugby this hour.

796
00:42:12,387 --> 00:42:15,187
Speaker 3: Ruben Love standing by for a chat. How good? Speaking

797
00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:17,787
Speaker 3: of running the Cutter last night? Was he in that

798
00:42:17,907 --> 00:42:23,627
Speaker 3: ten jersey? That Roy Guard Love combination? Pretty compelling? I

799
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:26,707
Speaker 3: know I'm a Hurricanes fan unashamedly so, but I thought

800
00:42:26,747 --> 00:42:30,587
Speaker 3: I looked pretty good. What about the Chiefs though? What

801
00:42:30,747 --> 00:42:35,827
Speaker 3: happened in Canberra that was so weird? Twenty four to

802
00:42:35,987 --> 00:42:39,947
Speaker 3: seven Ahead and then with twenty minutes ago and they

803
00:42:39,987 --> 00:42:42,427
Speaker 3: lose at thirty three to twenty four. That was so strange.

804
00:42:42,947 --> 00:42:48,827
Speaker 3: They just couldn't stem the tide of Brumby's scoring, could they.

805
00:42:49,827 --> 00:42:52,347
Speaker 3: I know it was James Slipper's record breaking what was it,

806
00:42:52,347 --> 00:42:55,227
Speaker 3: two hundred and third appearance, but I don't know. Twenty

807
00:42:55,267 --> 00:42:58,547
Speaker 3: four to seven Ahead should have won that game. John

808
00:42:58,547 --> 00:43:00,627
Speaker 3: O Gibbs is their head coach. He's going to try

809
00:43:00,627 --> 00:43:02,747
Speaker 3: and unpack it for US. Adam Peacock out of Australia

810
00:43:02,787 --> 00:43:06,107
Speaker 3: after two. We're in the football territory as well. Francister's

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Speaker 3: going to to US ahead of the fiftieth match for

812
00:43:09,107 --> 00:43:13,867
Speaker 3: Auckland FC this afternoon. He is in line to start

813
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Speaker 3: all fifty forty nine out of forty nine so far

814
00:43:18,067 --> 00:43:23,707
Speaker 3: MacArthur this afternoon three o'clock. Fiftieth straight start for Francis

815
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Speaker 3: de Briees. What a player he's been for them. Oh eight,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten. Eutis a number nine two

817
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Speaker 3: nine to two R text messages emails to Jason at

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Speaker 3: ustalksb dot Co dot Nz. The Hurricanes have retained their

819
00:43:34,787 --> 00:43:37,507
Speaker 3: place at the top of the Super Rugby ladder in

820
00:43:37,947 --> 00:43:42,067
Speaker 3: emphatic fashion. At the extra two he's made it fifty

821
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Speaker 3: and there's fifty points for the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 18: Haha.

823
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Speaker 3: Are they have been named the Hurricanes for a reason

824
00:43:49,107 --> 00:43:51,427
Speaker 3: because they blew the Highlanders off the park tonight.

825
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Speaker 19: They have scored a total of eight tries tonight against.

826
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Speaker 3: The Highland has won nineteen to seven at a half time,

827
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Speaker 3: but the Scorelon reads at the full time whistle fifty

828
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Speaker 3: points to seven, the biggest win margin ever over the Highlanders. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they've running eight tries to one and scored fifty unanswered

830
00:44:11,947 --> 00:44:15,067
Speaker 3: points to thump the Highlanders fifty points to seven. In

831
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Speaker 3: Dunedin fair he Finny Younger nor fourth scored a hat

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Speaker 3: trick of trice cam Royguard dotted down twice first five.

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Speaker 3: Ruben Love joins us waiting for the flight home. Ruben,

834
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Speaker 3: thanks for your time. Congratulations to you and the team

835
00:44:26,867 --> 00:44:29,827
Speaker 3: on the win. That was about as complete a display

836
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Speaker 3: as Hurricanes fans could have hoped for. How do you

837
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Speaker 3: inside the team reflect on the performance last night?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was pretty good.

839
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Speaker 16: Informant.

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Speaker 20: I think just the way we started, we went too

841
00:44:40,667 --> 00:44:44,427
Speaker 20: happy with our defense. I think on four our cycles

842
00:44:45,627 --> 00:44:48,107
Speaker 20: pretty softly. So then we get back Jornson and have

843
00:44:48,147 --> 00:44:50,107
Speaker 20: a review of the game the first twenty minutes. We'll

844
00:44:50,107 --> 00:44:52,147
Speaker 20: see what we can do better to start the game

845
00:44:52,187 --> 00:44:55,347
Speaker 20: off with more position of reward and apart from now,

846
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Speaker 20: I feel like art tackle was humming and just plost

847
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Speaker 20: contact offloads and catch pass accuracy to turn some of

848
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Speaker 20: the things. Well, we'll go the key factor in our game.

849
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Speaker 20: And yeah, from my side of the ball, was just

850
00:45:06,387 --> 00:45:09,507
Speaker 20: pretty happy to see everyone smiling ever run, enjoying their footing,

851
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Speaker 20: and yeah, I had a bit of fun too.

852
00:45:12,027 --> 00:45:14,787
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they will keeping the ball alive, ball speed through

853
00:45:15,427 --> 00:45:17,747
Speaker 3: multiple sets of hands. It's always been a part of

854
00:45:17,747 --> 00:45:20,427
Speaker 3: the Hurricanes DNA. I think it's really eye catching. How

855
00:45:20,507 --> 00:45:23,147
Speaker 3: much of the twenty twenty six game plan for the

856
00:45:23,227 --> 00:45:25,067
Speaker 3: Hurricanes is that sort of thing.

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00:45:27,507 --> 00:45:31,107
Speaker 20: It's massive, and I think the way Yelling Thines defend

858
00:45:31,627 --> 00:45:33,387
Speaker 20: with a lot of line speed coming high up on

859
00:45:33,787 --> 00:45:38,587
Speaker 20: wings and the field is to have a short passing

860
00:45:38,627 --> 00:45:41,427
Speaker 20: game as well as a long passing game, but not

861
00:45:41,507 --> 00:45:44,427
Speaker 20: differentiating on the speed of pass. It's huge and it's

862
00:45:44,427 --> 00:45:46,467
Speaker 20: such a might not be able to see it on TV,

863
00:45:46,667 --> 00:45:49,067
Speaker 20: but it's a lot harder on the field when you

864
00:45:49,147 --> 00:45:50,507
Speaker 20: got the boys, big boys in front of you.

865
00:45:51,027 --> 00:45:51,547
Speaker 18: That's happy.

866
00:45:51,707 --> 00:45:55,587
Speaker 20: So but yeah, we're enjoying it. I mean, Jason, Jason

867
00:45:55,627 --> 00:45:57,587
Speaker 20: Holland has been been massive for us, and obviously the

868
00:45:57,667 --> 00:45:59,267
Speaker 20: news coming out this morning, but we're pretty good at

869
00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:01,907
Speaker 20: to see him go. But it's having them back in

870
00:46:01,947 --> 00:46:05,907
Speaker 20: the Canes. Who's bought such a great attacking mindset and

871
00:46:06,827 --> 00:46:08,707
Speaker 20: just the way he coaches man the the drills, he

872
00:46:08,747 --> 00:46:11,587
Speaker 20: sets up the people first, and he is like knowing

873
00:46:11,627 --> 00:46:13,227
Speaker 20: how to get the best of everyone. Such a strength

874
00:46:13,267 --> 00:46:15,907
Speaker 20: of his and yeah, even seeing him happy being in

875
00:46:15,987 --> 00:46:18,187
Speaker 20: this environment, that's awesome.

876
00:46:18,307 --> 00:46:21,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, outstanding. I heard another one of your assistants, Brent Evans,

877
00:46:21,267 --> 00:46:24,067
Speaker 3: on the radio this morning say that you, personally, Ruben,

878
00:46:24,107 --> 00:46:26,387
Speaker 3: had had a great week leading into the game, or

879
00:46:26,507 --> 00:46:29,907
Speaker 3: what does the week leading into a game look like

880
00:46:30,027 --> 00:46:31,147
Speaker 3: for you when it goes well?

881
00:46:33,667 --> 00:46:39,587
Speaker 20: Honestly, it's just making sure everyone else is happy and comfortable. Obviously,

882
00:46:39,627 --> 00:46:40,747
Speaker 20: at the start of the week I did to get

883
00:46:40,787 --> 00:46:43,827
Speaker 20: over the game plan, how we want to play a

884
00:46:43,907 --> 00:46:47,427
Speaker 20: few of the wadiffs. Obviously, what the opposition brings to

885
00:46:47,507 --> 00:46:50,467
Speaker 20: the game. But for me, like a lot of the

886
00:46:50,627 --> 00:46:52,307
Speaker 20: and I said the last time and on an interview,

887
00:46:52,507 --> 00:46:54,187
Speaker 20: I've got so much pressure on myself after her, like

888
00:46:54,227 --> 00:46:57,467
Speaker 20: the last couple of years of trying to think of

889
00:46:57,707 --> 00:47:00,227
Speaker 20: all black selection and all that. But now I'm just

890
00:47:00,267 --> 00:47:04,267
Speaker 20: trying to detach from no outcome, what selection policies, and

891
00:47:04,387 --> 00:47:06,907
Speaker 20: I just want to be the player teams need. And

892
00:47:07,387 --> 00:47:09,347
Speaker 20: if I can have the big boys, the props having

893
00:47:09,347 --> 00:47:11,307
Speaker 20: a clear mind, then I know that I'm doing a

894
00:47:11,387 --> 00:47:12,987
Speaker 20: control for everyone else on the team.

895
00:47:13,867 --> 00:47:17,827
Speaker 3: Came Roy Guard again, hugely influential. How much I mean,

896
00:47:17,867 --> 00:47:19,547
Speaker 3: I know it's only early in the season, but how

897
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:23,667
Speaker 3: much you enjoying that nineteen partnership and you know, guiding

898
00:47:23,707 --> 00:47:26,187
Speaker 3: the team around the field with came Roy Guard there

899
00:47:26,227 --> 00:47:26,507
Speaker 3: as well.

900
00:47:27,867 --> 00:47:29,587
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, that's that's my guy.

901
00:47:29,827 --> 00:47:33,027
Speaker 20: So we we talk about the first time we were

902
00:47:33,107 --> 00:47:34,707
Speaker 20: nine and ten for the Canes, I think it was

903
00:47:34,747 --> 00:47:40,387
Speaker 20: twenty twenty one against the Reds, respect and since then

904
00:47:40,627 --> 00:47:42,187
Speaker 20: we've always wanted to just run it back.

905
00:47:42,227 --> 00:47:43,147
Speaker 14: Ever since we met each other.

906
00:47:44,227 --> 00:47:45,907
Speaker 20: It came pre season and I think it was twenty

907
00:47:46,027 --> 00:47:48,627
Speaker 20: twenty or twenty twenty one. We've just been close ever since.

908
00:47:48,707 --> 00:47:51,947
Speaker 20: So yeah, obviously, like we wanted to have a crack

909
00:47:51,987 --> 00:47:54,067
Speaker 20: at the all back, but that didn't happen for each other.

910
00:47:54,187 --> 00:47:56,507
Speaker 20: So we're just called to have it out for the games.

911
00:47:56,547 --> 00:47:59,467
Speaker 20: And I've the same kind of wavelength. We work around

912
00:47:59,547 --> 00:48:01,307
Speaker 20: really hard and we're just on the best for for

913
00:48:01,387 --> 00:48:03,827
Speaker 20: this team and we just want to see our friends

914
00:48:03,867 --> 00:48:06,187
Speaker 20: hold up the trophy really and we're both competitive at

915
00:48:06,187 --> 00:48:10,347
Speaker 20: it and everything. So yeah, maybe he could stop stop

916
00:48:10,387 --> 00:48:13,067
Speaker 20: snoring a couple of times in my roommate dads, that

917
00:48:13,067 --> 00:48:17,027
Speaker 20: will help me out operation, But far from that, Bro,

918
00:48:17,667 --> 00:48:18,507
Speaker 20: he's a pretty good dude.

919
00:48:18,827 --> 00:48:20,547
Speaker 3: Well you can't have everything, can you. You can't be,

920
00:48:20,667 --> 00:48:21,787
Speaker 3: you know, one of the best half backs in the

921
00:48:21,827 --> 00:48:24,347
Speaker 3: world and be perfect, you know when you're Yeah, well,

922
00:48:24,587 --> 00:48:27,027
Speaker 3: I think we'll probably forgive him as snoring. Another blake

923
00:48:27,027 --> 00:48:29,427
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about is for young and norful.

924
00:48:29,747 --> 00:48:31,707
Speaker 3: Hetrick He goes all right, doesn't he.

925
00:48:33,707 --> 00:48:35,867
Speaker 20: I've been telling so many people the last two years,

926
00:48:35,947 --> 00:48:37,987
Speaker 20: like he's one of the most special players I've ever seen.

927
00:48:38,867 --> 00:48:40,587
Speaker 20: I'm so good at his going. It's probably one of

928
00:48:40,627 --> 00:48:44,107
Speaker 20: the hardest goodbye as a as a teammate that I have.

929
00:48:44,347 --> 00:48:47,587
Speaker 20: But we absolutely love him. Like if he even if

930
00:48:47,627 --> 00:48:49,747
Speaker 20: he couldn't play on the field on the way he's playing,

931
00:48:50,027 --> 00:48:51,747
Speaker 20: we just love having him in the group. He's doing

932
00:48:51,827 --> 00:48:55,987
Speaker 20: such a vibe and energy for just being friends to everyone,

933
00:48:56,067 --> 00:48:58,587
Speaker 20: and you see him the way he plays, man, all

934
00:48:58,627 --> 00:49:00,667
Speaker 20: you got to give him is two meters of separation

935
00:49:00,787 --> 00:49:03,947
Speaker 20: in space and then he's gone. He's got so much expector.

936
00:49:04,587 --> 00:49:06,307
Speaker 20: And one thing that Corey James been working really hard

937
00:49:06,427 --> 00:49:08,587
Speaker 20: them as his high ball and his defense, and he's

938
00:49:08,867 --> 00:49:10,227
Speaker 20: he's excelled in that and he's definitely one of the

939
00:49:10,227 --> 00:49:13,867
Speaker 20: best wingers in this country. And yeah, if he wasn't going,

940
00:49:14,107 --> 00:49:18,107
Speaker 20: I was, Yeah, it'd be pretty exciting to simpus from

941
00:49:18,347 --> 00:49:20,387
Speaker 20: for Blake Jersey or higher on because I definitely thinking

942
00:49:20,427 --> 00:49:23,547
Speaker 20: he's he's one of the special players I've played with.

943
00:49:24,067 --> 00:49:28,667
Speaker 3: As first try Rubin from your cross kick. How satisfying

944
00:49:28,747 --> 00:49:31,147
Speaker 3: is it when when something like get that comes off

945
00:49:31,187 --> 00:49:32,947
Speaker 3: in a game. I know you train it, but how

946
00:49:33,027 --> 00:49:34,627
Speaker 3: satisfying is it to see it come off in a

947
00:49:34,667 --> 00:49:35,147
Speaker 3: game like that?

948
00:49:37,027 --> 00:49:38,067
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's cool.

949
00:49:38,667 --> 00:49:41,667
Speaker 18: You know, it's professional like sport.

950
00:49:42,627 --> 00:49:44,787
Speaker 20: Come to realize you can do a thousand kirks or

951
00:49:44,827 --> 00:49:48,427
Speaker 20: a thousand practices or practice moments of a skill. But

952
00:49:48,667 --> 00:49:50,347
Speaker 20: if you can't nail it the one chance you get

953
00:49:50,387 --> 00:49:52,827
Speaker 20: in a game, it doesn't matter for anything. So it's

954
00:49:52,827 --> 00:49:54,827
Speaker 20: always nice when you only get one opportunity, and it

955
00:49:54,867 --> 00:49:56,947
Speaker 20: could be one opportunity in the season to nail it.

956
00:49:57,027 --> 00:49:59,387
Speaker 20: And yeah, I've been practicing the kick for a while.

957
00:49:59,427 --> 00:50:02,627
Speaker 20: It's a bit of a tough kirk facing forward and

958
00:50:03,227 --> 00:50:05,707
Speaker 20: trying to get your leg around to arket right to

959
00:50:05,827 --> 00:50:08,627
Speaker 20: left the wing that doesn't backtrack when he sees your

960
00:50:08,627 --> 00:50:13,387
Speaker 20: shoulders open. But yeah, all I have to do is

961
00:50:13,387 --> 00:50:15,267
Speaker 20: just going to give him the ball, really and he

962
00:50:15,427 --> 00:50:17,587
Speaker 20: has to meet the space and he goes in. So

963
00:50:17,907 --> 00:50:19,507
Speaker 20: it was just a matter of getting on the ball.

964
00:50:20,027 --> 00:50:22,347
Speaker 3: And you're welcome the new member to the Hurricanes family.

965
00:50:22,427 --> 00:50:25,667
Speaker 3: Last night a debut for hooker Vernon Basin. How are

966
00:50:25,707 --> 00:50:27,547
Speaker 3: things like that celebrated internally?

967
00:50:29,387 --> 00:50:33,067
Speaker 20: Oh, it's massive anytime, yeah someone and debut. It just

968
00:50:33,147 --> 00:50:35,227
Speaker 20: brings such an energy to the group because everyone's obviously

969
00:50:35,267 --> 00:50:37,707
Speaker 20: debut once and you know how eager you are to

970
00:50:38,627 --> 00:50:40,427
Speaker 20: first off get the wind and then not let everybody

971
00:50:40,547 --> 00:50:42,347
Speaker 20: down on your debut because you want to prove yourself

972
00:50:42,387 --> 00:50:47,307
Speaker 20: and prove you belong. So his family flew down from

973
00:50:47,347 --> 00:50:51,587
Speaker 20: one or two. You know, he gets his throw presented

974
00:50:51,627 --> 00:50:54,507
Speaker 20: to him and everyone gets around him for the night

975
00:50:54,587 --> 00:50:57,707
Speaker 20: and make sure that he's happy, content, and he just

976
00:50:57,747 --> 00:50:59,267
Speaker 20: has a good time because it only happens once and

977
00:50:59,347 --> 00:51:02,907
Speaker 20: it goes by so fast. But yeah, Soper Vern and

978
00:51:03,107 --> 00:51:05,627
Speaker 20: he works so hard. He's in the gym most mornings

979
00:51:05,747 --> 00:51:08,267
Speaker 20: on his own, doing throwing at a target. And I

980
00:51:08,347 --> 00:51:10,827
Speaker 20: see that when I'm doing my passing with them, and yeah,

981
00:51:10,827 --> 00:51:12,747
Speaker 20: I'm just stoked for another kid from one or two

982
00:51:13,267 --> 00:51:14,627
Speaker 20: coming up to the one or two system and the

983
00:51:14,707 --> 00:51:17,227
Speaker 20: hurricane system flourish and finally an opportunity.

984
00:51:17,507 --> 00:51:19,267
Speaker 3: All right, so you hop on a plane now come home.

985
00:51:19,987 --> 00:51:22,227
Speaker 3: When you win by a margin like that, Ruben, how

986
00:51:22,267 --> 00:51:25,187
Speaker 3: do you balance enjoying it which you need to work,

987
00:51:25,387 --> 00:51:27,387
Speaker 3: making sure you keep standards high when you get back

988
00:51:27,387 --> 00:51:28,147
Speaker 3: to work on Monday.

989
00:51:29,827 --> 00:51:32,787
Speaker 20: Yeah, A lot of it is honestly physical recovery, like

990
00:51:33,827 --> 00:51:38,427
Speaker 20: having the downtime to decompress and get back to well.

991
00:51:38,467 --> 00:51:43,547
Speaker 20: It feels like a neutral zone. Emotions coming in some

992
00:51:43,707 --> 00:51:46,147
Speaker 20: such ways, and you get too high on your own

993
00:51:46,187 --> 00:51:49,507
Speaker 20: supply and you don't perform the next week. And yeah,

994
00:51:49,547 --> 00:51:51,187
Speaker 20: but ife the other end of the stick be if

995
00:51:51,187 --> 00:51:52,747
Speaker 20: you're too hard on themselves and know everyone goes into

996
00:51:52,787 --> 00:51:56,227
Speaker 20: the selle and doesn't perform at all. So we just

997
00:51:56,267 --> 00:51:57,947
Speaker 20: want to make sure that we've got two days off

998
00:51:57,987 --> 00:52:00,187
Speaker 20: now the boys go see their families. We've been on

999
00:52:00,267 --> 00:52:02,387
Speaker 20: the road for the last four weeks, five weeks, so

1000
00:52:02,827 --> 00:52:05,787
Speaker 20: it's an opportunity now just to take a breath, to regroup,

1001
00:52:05,867 --> 00:52:08,347
Speaker 20: and then I'm back on Monday for a full week

1002
00:52:08,507 --> 00:52:11,387
Speaker 20: of training to play the Regons Saturday. But we definitely

1003
00:52:11,387 --> 00:52:12,907
Speaker 20: got to keep the enjoyment fact of high. That's what's

1004
00:52:12,907 --> 00:52:15,427
Speaker 20: the best thing about the Hurricane team and environment an

1005
00:52:15,547 --> 00:52:17,387
Speaker 20: organization as a whole, is the way that we enjoy

1006
00:52:17,907 --> 00:52:21,867
Speaker 20: each other's company and enjoy training. And although it's hard

1007
00:52:21,907 --> 00:52:24,547
Speaker 20: and at times it really hurts and I had to

1008
00:52:24,587 --> 00:52:26,227
Speaker 20: make sacrifice and stuff, we just want to make sure

1009
00:52:26,267 --> 00:52:30,107
Speaker 20: that our culture as always first before Abby, and we.

1010
00:52:30,187 --> 00:52:31,987
Speaker 3: Know you can play anywhere in the back three as

1011
00:52:32,027 --> 00:52:35,107
Speaker 3: well as first five. Does it feel like ten is

1012
00:52:35,187 --> 00:52:37,787
Speaker 3: now a position at this moment you really want to

1013
00:52:37,827 --> 00:52:38,867
Speaker 3: have a decent crack at.

1014
00:52:40,747 --> 00:52:42,987
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, hundred percent. Like I don't feel like I

1015
00:52:43,067 --> 00:52:45,267
Speaker 20: have to conjure up anything else or say anything in

1016
00:52:45,307 --> 00:52:47,507
Speaker 20: the media about where I want to play. Like in

1017
00:52:47,587 --> 00:52:49,307
Speaker 20: my head, it's pretty simple. I grew up as a

1018
00:52:49,347 --> 00:52:52,787
Speaker 20: ten and I started at the Hurricanes as a ten,

1019
00:52:52,867 --> 00:52:55,827
Speaker 20: and yeah, it's gonna moved to fall back after two

1020
00:52:55,867 --> 00:52:59,507
Speaker 20: of my groin, but I feel like I enjoyed both positions.

1021
00:52:59,547 --> 00:53:01,147
Speaker 20: I feel like I've worked hard enough to say I'm

1022
00:53:01,147 --> 00:53:05,387
Speaker 20: a depth at both and I just want to take

1023
00:53:05,427 --> 00:53:07,907
Speaker 20: the Hurricanes to high high really like I enjoyed playing

1024
00:53:07,947 --> 00:53:11,467
Speaker 20: ten and being the player that my teammates need. But selfishly,

1025
00:53:11,467 --> 00:53:13,387
Speaker 20: I enjoy being in the in the pressure cooker and

1026
00:53:14,387 --> 00:53:17,627
Speaker 20: getting back to gold kicking. I really enjoy that. And

1027
00:53:19,147 --> 00:53:24,267
Speaker 20: one thing I love about being a press fivers you've

1028
00:53:24,307 --> 00:53:26,627
Speaker 20: never you're never really good enough, you know, like you've

1029
00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:28,587
Speaker 20: never actually did There's no thing as a perfect game

1030
00:53:28,627 --> 00:53:32,507
Speaker 20: because you do so many variables. You're play calling, your

1031
00:53:32,547 --> 00:53:36,907
Speaker 20: foot speed, cadence, making classes, like everything is so down

1032
00:53:36,947 --> 00:53:39,347
Speaker 20: to the finals detail and you never really complete it.

1033
00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:41,907
Speaker 20: So there's always room for growth. And I just want

1034
00:53:41,947 --> 00:53:43,987
Speaker 20: to make sure that every week you know, I never content,

1035
00:53:44,067 --> 00:53:47,227
Speaker 20: I never satisfied, and being the best team mate that

1036
00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:48,067
Speaker 20: I cancel the boys.

1037
00:53:48,507 --> 00:53:50,867
Speaker 3: And you mentioned him before, Jason Holland off to the Blues.

1038
00:53:51,067 --> 00:53:53,507
Speaker 3: I know he's had a big influence on you. How's

1039
00:53:53,507 --> 00:53:55,907
Speaker 3: that going to be with him in the opposing coaching

1040
00:53:55,947 --> 00:53:57,147
Speaker 3: box with Blues kit On.

1041
00:53:59,107 --> 00:54:00,787
Speaker 20: Yeah, we won't think too much of it when we

1042
00:54:00,827 --> 00:54:02,947
Speaker 20: played the next year. That's so far away. But Alf

1043
00:54:02,947 --> 00:54:07,027
Speaker 20: will always be Honestly, I'll always been made. So it's

1044
00:54:07,027 --> 00:54:09,147
Speaker 20: all of us. I feel just the way that he's

1045
00:54:10,107 --> 00:54:11,907
Speaker 20: all the way that I've seen him in my six

1046
00:54:11,987 --> 00:54:14,347
Speaker 20: years at the Games. He's always been a people person

1047
00:54:14,427 --> 00:54:17,227
Speaker 20: and he could talk for ages about how good he's

1048
00:54:17,267 --> 00:54:19,267
Speaker 20: good of a rugby brain he's got, and the way

1049
00:54:19,307 --> 00:54:23,787
Speaker 20: that he develops players. He's all in all just just

1050
00:54:23,867 --> 00:54:27,707
Speaker 20: a good human. I think everyone in Taranaki and want

1051
00:54:27,747 --> 00:54:29,947
Speaker 20: and he knows that. And like, we're so good to

1052
00:54:30,187 --> 00:54:31,947
Speaker 20: see him go. We would have loved to be him

1053
00:54:31,947 --> 00:54:33,267
Speaker 20: at the Games, but I definite would have loved kick

1054
00:54:33,307 --> 00:54:34,467
Speaker 20: him at the Games, and I'd love to have him

1055
00:54:34,507 --> 00:54:37,027
Speaker 20: here and working with them. But you know, these opportunities

1056
00:54:37,187 --> 00:54:39,667
Speaker 20: have him for a reason, and definitely a massive one

1057
00:54:39,707 --> 00:54:41,907
Speaker 20: for his family. And I'm just soaked from that that

1058
00:54:42,027 --> 00:54:46,427
Speaker 20: he's enjoying his coaching. And yeah, he's made it clear

1059
00:54:46,627 --> 00:54:49,467
Speaker 20: like this season is his focus and right now, winning

1060
00:54:49,507 --> 00:54:51,707
Speaker 20: with the Hurricanes and having dupes and Geordie holds the

1061
00:54:51,747 --> 00:54:54,107
Speaker 20: trophy as his main focus and we want to honor

1062
00:54:54,187 --> 00:54:56,307
Speaker 20: him with that too. You know that I'm not sure

1063
00:54:56,307 --> 00:54:57,747
Speaker 20: if he will ever be back in Yellow and Black,

1064
00:54:57,827 --> 00:54:59,507
Speaker 20: so we just want to give him a good scend.

1065
00:54:59,547 --> 00:55:02,067
Speaker 3: Off co great to last night, Reuben and joyed the

1066
00:55:02,107 --> 00:55:04,147
Speaker 3: weekend with some family time. Thanks so much for the

1067
00:55:04,187 --> 00:55:04,587
Speaker 3: chat mate.

1068
00:55:04,707 --> 00:55:05,587
Speaker 20: I shall final you have it all.

1069
00:55:05,707 --> 00:55:08,067
Speaker 3: You have a good one, Reuben thinks. Indeed, Ruben love there,

1070
00:55:08,147 --> 00:55:13,747
Speaker 3: pretty impressive guy. Hurricanes fifty Highlanders seven last night. Just

1071
00:55:13,787 --> 00:55:16,427
Speaker 3: on the Jason Holland news you may have caught up

1072
00:55:16,467 --> 00:55:18,107
Speaker 3: with us. I'm sure many of you have, but just

1073
00:55:18,187 --> 00:55:20,467
Speaker 3: in case you haven't, Jason Holland is going to be

1074
00:55:20,547 --> 00:55:23,947
Speaker 3: the head coach of the Blues next season. He of course,

1075
00:55:24,147 --> 00:55:27,067
Speaker 3: was an assistant under Scott Robertson's All Blacks regime. He

1076
00:55:27,107 --> 00:55:32,307
Speaker 3: announced he'd be leaving that post sort of July August

1077
00:55:32,427 --> 00:55:34,667
Speaker 3: last year. He made the announcement that he wouldn't be

1078
00:55:34,747 --> 00:55:37,587
Speaker 3: continuing beyond the end of last year. Obviously, there's been

1079
00:55:37,627 --> 00:55:39,947
Speaker 3: a change of head coach now as well. He will

1080
00:55:39,987 --> 00:55:44,147
Speaker 3: replace Vern Cotter from twenty twenty seven. On Witz, Vern

1081
00:55:44,187 --> 00:55:47,307
Speaker 3: Cotter off to the Queensland Reds, of course, so Jason Holland,

1082
00:55:47,307 --> 00:55:49,547
Speaker 3: who is currently an assistant to Clark laid Law at

1083
00:55:49,547 --> 00:55:52,627
Speaker 3: the Hurricanes and formerly a head coach at the Canes

1084
00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:55,307
Speaker 3: for four years, is the new coach of the Blues

1085
00:55:55,467 --> 00:56:00,827
Speaker 3: from twenty twenty seven onwards. Hurricanes fans excited. The only

1086
00:56:01,027 --> 00:56:03,787
Speaker 3: caveat I guess you'd say about the Hurricanes this season

1087
00:56:03,907 --> 00:56:08,787
Speaker 3: is that they have had a price opening by comparison

1088
00:56:08,827 --> 00:56:11,667
Speaker 3: to some of the other teams. The Hurricanes so far

1089
00:56:12,107 --> 00:56:15,107
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six have played Moona, Pacifica, the Fiji

1090
00:56:15,187 --> 00:56:17,467
Speaker 3: and Drawer. They lost that game, the Warratars, the Force,

1091
00:56:17,547 --> 00:56:22,107
Speaker 3: and the Highlanders, so they're yet to play Chiefs, Crusaders, Blues.

1092
00:56:24,347 --> 00:56:26,467
Speaker 3: They play the Reds next and then they get into

1093
00:56:26,507 --> 00:56:28,787
Speaker 3: the meat of their season. The back end of this season.

1094
00:56:28,787 --> 00:56:30,467
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna mention this last week, the last

1095
00:56:30,547 --> 00:56:35,427
Speaker 3: five games for the Hurricanes there may basically is Crusaders,

1096
00:56:35,507 --> 00:56:39,827
Speaker 3: More Wana, Pacificer, Blues, Highlanders, Crusaders. That's tough running, right,

1097
00:56:40,067 --> 00:56:42,467
Speaker 3: That's a lot tougher than the first five games on

1098
00:56:42,547 --> 00:56:44,547
Speaker 3: the face of it anyway, But on the evidence of

1099
00:56:45,187 --> 00:56:48,107
Speaker 3: last night and under the Roof and Duneda and it

1100
00:56:48,227 --> 00:56:51,547
Speaker 3: just seemed to suit them. They're running rugby, the balls,

1101
00:56:51,547 --> 00:56:53,707
Speaker 3: speed through the hands and I mean cam roy Got

1102
00:56:53,787 --> 00:56:57,747
Speaker 3: had a good game, but when Editari and Nardi came on,

1103
00:56:58,387 --> 00:57:00,267
Speaker 3: he was just as good, just the way they moved

1104
00:57:00,307 --> 00:57:03,907
Speaker 3: it through the hands and fair hair. Finnianga North four.

1105
00:57:04,867 --> 00:57:07,507
Speaker 3: He's off at the end of the season, so they're

1106
00:57:07,547 --> 00:57:08,747
Speaker 3: not going to look at them for the All Blacks.

1107
00:57:08,787 --> 00:57:10,787
Speaker 3: But if you're looking at fom wingers around the place.

1108
00:57:11,707 --> 00:57:16,027
Speaker 3: Six tries now in five games for fair Finney, Young

1109
00:57:16,107 --> 00:57:17,827
Speaker 3: and all four. You heard Ruben Love talk about them

1110
00:57:17,827 --> 00:57:21,547
Speaker 3: there and glowing terms we'd have to hear from your

1111
00:57:21,627 --> 00:57:23,827
Speaker 3: Hurricanes fans. Luck you're reatting this with me if you'd

1112
00:57:23,907 --> 00:57:27,747
Speaker 3: like to, or maybe send me a cautionary note over

1113
00:57:27,827 --> 00:57:30,307
Speaker 3: to you. One twenty three lines are open, oh, eight

1114
00:57:30,427 --> 00:57:32,667
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty to talk Hurricanes. We're going

1115
00:57:32,707 --> 00:57:34,987
Speaker 3: to get inside the Chiefs camp next, which will be

1116
00:57:35,067 --> 00:57:38,507
Speaker 3: a very very different feeling. I'm sure after throwing away

1117
00:57:38,587 --> 00:57:41,867
Speaker 3: a twenty four points to seven lead to lose thirty

1118
00:57:41,947 --> 00:57:44,787
Speaker 3: three twenty four to the Brumbies and Canberra last night,

1119
00:57:44,827 --> 00:57:46,787
Speaker 3: how are they feeling about that? We'll get John o' gibbs,

1120
00:57:47,067 --> 00:57:48,507
Speaker 3: head coach on the line in just a set. But

1121
00:57:48,587 --> 00:57:51,467
Speaker 3: line's open to talk Hurricanes if you'd like to. Caines fans,

1122
00:57:51,747 --> 00:57:55,347
Speaker 3: you know, but nobody gets carried away more about about

1123
00:57:55,387 --> 00:57:59,587
Speaker 3: their sports team than Hurricanes fans. I wake one hundred

1124
00:57:59,627 --> 00:58:01,587
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty back with your calls after.

1125
00:58:01,467 --> 00:58:06,187
Speaker 2: This hard tackles, harder opinions. We can sport with Jason

1126
00:58:06,867 --> 00:58:07,507
Speaker 2: and GJ.

1127
00:58:07,747 --> 00:58:11,307
Speaker 1: Gardner Homes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News talks.

1128
00:58:11,307 --> 00:58:13,987
Speaker 3: They'd be one twenty six months, says Pinety. Is this

1129
00:58:14,067 --> 00:58:16,507
Speaker 3: a Hurricane show? It isn't the moment, Muzz. You know

1130
00:58:16,667 --> 00:58:19,187
Speaker 3: they put fifty on last night. I think you can

1131
00:58:19,307 --> 00:58:22,587
Speaker 3: forgive us, can't you? What do you reckon, Peter, Hurricanes year?

1132
00:58:24,227 --> 00:58:27,067
Speaker 14: Oh well, you know it's looking good, it's looking good.

1133
00:58:27,147 --> 00:58:30,867
Speaker 15: I mean I expected the Canes to walk away over

1134
00:58:30,947 --> 00:58:33,307
Speaker 15: the w last night, but I don't think many people

1135
00:58:33,387 --> 00:58:34,587
Speaker 15: expect them fifty points.

1136
00:58:35,667 --> 00:58:37,987
Speaker 3: No, I agree, but I and I also I was.

1137
00:58:38,547 --> 00:58:40,387
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm a Highlanders fan, I'm looking at

1138
00:58:40,427 --> 00:58:44,587
Speaker 3: that team going. Man, they they weren't great the Highlanders

1139
00:58:44,667 --> 00:58:46,307
Speaker 3: last night. The Highlanders should be a lot better than

1140
00:58:46,307 --> 00:58:48,907
Speaker 3: they are. And they they just weren't great last night.

1141
00:58:50,107 --> 00:58:52,667
Speaker 15: No, no, they weren't. I mean, I know they've lost

1142
00:58:52,667 --> 00:58:57,027
Speaker 15: a bit of the top flight cattles, you know, the

1143
00:58:57,187 --> 00:58:59,627
Speaker 15: likes of Fabian Holland and Eleven Ei for the you know,

1144
00:58:59,787 --> 00:59:01,907
Speaker 15: for a few weeks and what have you. So they

1145
00:59:01,947 --> 00:59:03,627
Speaker 15: were always a little bit on the back foot. But

1146
00:59:03,827 --> 00:59:07,067
Speaker 15: you gotta remember this is also the team played the

1147
00:59:07,107 --> 00:59:09,707
Speaker 15: Crusaders twice this year one once, and I think they

1148
00:59:09,787 --> 00:59:11,547
Speaker 15: pushed them close to the second time round as well,

1149
00:59:13,027 --> 00:59:16,467
Speaker 15: So they're not meant to be the easy beats they

1150
00:59:16,547 --> 00:59:16,947
Speaker 15: seem to be.

1151
00:59:17,107 --> 00:59:17,547
Speaker 6: Last night.

1152
00:59:18,067 --> 00:59:21,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree more. When that game started,

1153
00:59:21,587 --> 00:59:23,387
Speaker 3: the thought, right, this will be a contest, because you're

1154
00:59:23,427 --> 00:59:26,107
Speaker 3: so right they you know, they beat the Crusaders first up,

1155
00:59:26,147 --> 00:59:29,067
Speaker 3: didn't they? They lost narrowly to the chief Chiefs after that.

1156
00:59:29,307 --> 00:59:31,507
Speaker 3: They you know, they weren't a million miles away last

1157
00:59:31,507 --> 00:59:33,387
Speaker 3: week in that second game against the Crusaders up in

1158
00:59:33,467 --> 00:59:36,027
Speaker 3: christ Church. But last night, I don't know, it just

1159
00:59:36,227 --> 00:59:41,347
Speaker 3: was hopefully for Highlanders fans it's an outlier because I mean,

1160
00:59:42,067 --> 00:59:45,667
Speaker 3: fifty unanswered points on your home patch. I mean, that's

1161
00:59:45,907 --> 00:59:47,427
Speaker 3: that's embarrassing.

1162
00:59:48,187 --> 00:59:50,867
Speaker 15: It is, right, I mean, I thought Ken Royguard was brilliant.

1163
00:59:51,787 --> 00:59:55,867
Speaker 15: I think love just yeah, it was a great He

1164
00:59:56,067 --> 00:59:59,587
Speaker 15: just reads the game so well, you know, he steers

1165
00:59:59,627 --> 01:00:02,547
Speaker 15: the game, makes holes, knows where the holes are, knows

1166
01:00:02,547 --> 01:00:05,547
Speaker 15: where to get the ballers. But I think one person

1167
01:00:05,947 --> 01:00:09,387
Speaker 15: who's flown a little bit under the radar after last night,

1168
01:00:10,267 --> 01:00:12,947
Speaker 15: which is I knew considering our tolly is let's Werner Durns.

1169
01:00:13,867 --> 01:00:15,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a unit.

1170
01:00:15,347 --> 01:00:17,587
Speaker 15: How many how many line out takes that he take

1171
01:00:18,387 --> 01:00:20,187
Speaker 15: from in the opposition throw last night?

1172
01:00:20,627 --> 01:00:22,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a player. He's a player. He is a

1173
01:00:22,987 --> 01:00:26,067
Speaker 3: berg berg lump of a lad, but he's mobile and

1174
01:00:26,227 --> 01:00:28,347
Speaker 3: yet at lineout time. What a weapon. I mean he

1175
01:00:28,347 --> 01:00:30,307
Speaker 3: wins his own ones, but he's just a Peter to

1176
01:00:30,427 --> 01:00:32,427
Speaker 3: pluck a couple of the Highlanders lineouts as well. What

1177
01:00:32,507 --> 01:00:33,067
Speaker 3: a weapon to have.

1178
01:00:34,307 --> 01:00:34,467
Speaker 16: Oh?

1179
01:00:34,667 --> 01:00:37,067
Speaker 15: Absolutely absolutely. Then we're just gonna move on their scrum

1180
01:00:37,187 --> 01:00:38,827
Speaker 15: and then will we go for all?

1181
01:00:38,947 --> 01:00:41,387
Speaker 3: Right, Peter good Man, great to chat to you, mate.

1182
01:00:41,627 --> 01:00:44,307
Speaker 3: Let's do it often across the season. Yeah, Warner Durns

1183
01:00:44,587 --> 01:00:49,947
Speaker 3: has come back obviously, you know, Japanese international, his parents

1184
01:00:49,947 --> 01:00:53,107
Speaker 3: are from this part of the this part of the world.

1185
01:00:53,347 --> 01:00:55,867
Speaker 3: But yeah, getting Warner Durns into that second row has

1186
01:00:55,907 --> 01:00:58,547
Speaker 3: been huge for the Hurricanes. Good Jason says, Brian, I

1187
01:00:58,627 --> 01:01:00,747
Speaker 3: was there last night. It was notable in the warm

1188
01:01:00,827 --> 01:01:03,227
Speaker 3: up that for me, the Hurricanes were a lot more

1189
01:01:03,307 --> 01:01:06,587
Speaker 3: fizzed up than the Highlanders. Thanks Brian. Interesting to get

1190
01:01:06,587 --> 01:01:09,667
Speaker 3: your perspective. Mark says, I thought Ruben Love was outstanding.

1191
01:01:09,867 --> 01:01:13,987
Speaker 3: His passing game, next level, different style of ten looked

1192
01:01:14,027 --> 01:01:14,587
Speaker 3: really great.

1193
01:01:15,227 --> 01:01:15,427
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1194
01:01:15,467 --> 01:01:17,587
Speaker 3: Great to hear him say too. You mean, I think

1195
01:01:17,627 --> 01:01:19,907
Speaker 3: in the past Ruben Love's probably shied away a little bit,

1196
01:01:19,987 --> 01:01:22,507
Speaker 3: not shied away, but hasn't sort of unequivocally come out

1197
01:01:22,507 --> 01:01:24,507
Speaker 3: and said, look, I want to be a ten. He

1198
01:01:24,627 --> 01:01:27,267
Speaker 3: basically did in that chat we just had, and he said,

1199
01:01:27,307 --> 01:01:29,787
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I have to make any statements

1200
01:01:29,827 --> 01:01:31,427
Speaker 3: in the media or anything like that. I just I

1201
01:01:31,547 --> 01:01:33,227
Speaker 3: want to be I want to be the Hurricanes ten.

1202
01:01:33,867 --> 01:01:38,587
Speaker 3: And with the very unfortunate injury to Brett Cameron earlier

1203
01:01:38,627 --> 01:01:41,707
Speaker 3: on this season, it's that, you know, the path is

1204
01:01:41,787 --> 01:01:44,627
Speaker 3: clear there now for him to show us the full

1205
01:01:45,147 --> 01:01:49,267
Speaker 3: range of skills that he has in that position. And

1206
01:01:49,387 --> 01:01:51,387
Speaker 3: he's a lot younger than the other blokes. You look

1207
01:01:51,387 --> 01:01:53,947
Speaker 3: at Boat and Barrett Damien, Mackenzie, Richie more Anger coming

1208
01:01:53,987 --> 01:01:56,147
Speaker 3: back they're all a lot older than Ruben Love, so

1209
01:01:56,627 --> 01:01:59,027
Speaker 3: whether or not he gets the opportunity at All Blacks

1210
01:01:59,147 --> 01:02:01,387
Speaker 3: level at some stage over the next two years or

1211
01:02:01,427 --> 01:02:03,987
Speaker 3: not remains to be seen. But certainly, if you're looking

1212
01:02:04,067 --> 01:02:07,547
Speaker 3: longer term, may well be some that you see. More

1213
01:02:07,587 --> 01:02:10,267
Speaker 3: and more is the number ten on the back of

1214
01:02:10,347 --> 01:02:16,667
Speaker 3: Reuben Love's back for All Blacks Test matches. The Chiefs meantime,

1215
01:02:16,987 --> 01:02:19,347
Speaker 3: have given up a twenty four to seven lead to

1216
01:02:19,547 --> 01:02:22,147
Speaker 3: fall thirty three to twenty four to the Brumbies and

1217
01:02:22,227 --> 01:02:24,027
Speaker 3: Canberra it's out on the full.

1218
01:02:24,907 --> 01:02:29,987
Speaker 13: His stream making nights at Gio Stadium in Canberra, James

1219
01:02:30,107 --> 01:02:34,947
Speaker 13: Slipper celebrates his two hundred and third Super Rugby game

1220
01:02:35,587 --> 01:02:40,387
Speaker 13: with a magical win from his team. The Brumbies down

1221
01:02:40,507 --> 01:02:43,947
Speaker 13: by twenty four points to seven, they've come back and

1222
01:02:44,067 --> 01:02:47,587
Speaker 13: won it by thirty three points to twenty four.

1223
01:02:47,867 --> 01:02:50,867
Speaker 3: The Chiefs were on course to upset prop James Slippers

1224
01:02:50,947 --> 01:02:53,667
Speaker 3: record two hundred and third game of Super Rugby with

1225
01:02:53,707 --> 01:02:56,427
Speaker 3: twenty minutes to go before three tries and ten minutes

1226
01:02:56,547 --> 01:02:58,507
Speaker 3: change the course of the game for the Brumbies and

1227
01:02:58,707 --> 01:03:01,627
Speaker 3: they cap the win with a Cory Tool try with

1228
01:03:01,747 --> 01:03:04,627
Speaker 3: a minute to go. Chiefs coach John o'gibbs is with

1229
01:03:04,827 --> 01:03:08,027
Speaker 3: us from Canberra twenty four to seven ahead, John O,

1230
01:03:08,187 --> 01:03:12,627
Speaker 3: and you lost thirty three twenty four, So what happened?

1231
01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:23,227
Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, it's extremely disappointing for everyone. And you know

1232
01:03:23,387 --> 01:03:28,347
Speaker 6: the fact that we couldn't maintain scoreboard pressure in the

1233
01:03:28,667 --> 01:03:34,267
Speaker 6: in the second half, you know, ultimately cost us. And

1234
01:03:35,187 --> 01:03:37,187
Speaker 6: you know, they have a good value. I said that

1235
01:03:37,307 --> 01:03:42,627
Speaker 6: last night after the game. You know, they responded at

1236
01:03:42,707 --> 01:03:46,267
Speaker 6: the halftime, got a bit of a roll on, but

1237
01:03:46,827 --> 01:03:52,347
Speaker 6: even that we hit our opportunities to keep that pressure

1238
01:03:52,387 --> 01:03:53,827
Speaker 6: on them and we didn't do it.

1239
01:03:54,707 --> 01:03:56,547
Speaker 3: What do you think your key messages will be to

1240
01:03:56,627 --> 01:03:59,307
Speaker 3: the team when you sit down to review this one.

1241
01:04:01,227 --> 01:04:03,307
Speaker 6: Well, I think you just, yeah, you have to look

1242
01:04:03,347 --> 01:04:09,347
Speaker 6: at the air right in that that period after halftime.

1243
01:04:10,787 --> 01:04:14,267
Speaker 6: You know, we had a lot of position that resulted

1244
01:04:14,347 --> 01:04:18,667
Speaker 6: in in turnovers. We were inaccurate and we gave the

1245
01:04:18,747 --> 01:04:21,707
Speaker 6: ball back to the after only one phase there. And

1246
01:04:23,947 --> 01:04:28,947
Speaker 6: you know, for them, they didn't have to go into

1247
01:04:29,067 --> 01:04:31,947
Speaker 6: deep sets of defense or or find a way out

1248
01:04:32,107 --> 01:04:35,627
Speaker 6: sort of thing. We gave them opportunities to get back

1249
01:04:35,667 --> 01:04:37,947
Speaker 6: in the game. And you know, a good team like that,

1250
01:04:40,107 --> 01:04:43,667
Speaker 6: you know you do that you invite danger.

1251
01:04:44,347 --> 01:04:46,547
Speaker 3: So game management is that? Is that a way to

1252
01:04:46,747 --> 01:04:50,707
Speaker 3: encapsulate it? Do you just need better game management in

1253
01:04:50,747 --> 01:04:52,707
Speaker 3: the last twenty minutes of the game for example last night?

1254
01:04:55,387 --> 01:05:00,587
Speaker 6: Not not necessarily game management, because game management for me

1255
01:05:00,907 --> 01:05:06,027
Speaker 6: is our option taking. Did we have the right options?

1256
01:05:06,107 --> 01:05:08,747
Speaker 6: We looking at it in the right way? I think

1257
01:05:08,787 --> 01:05:11,547
Speaker 6: we were. I just think it literally came down to,

1258
01:05:12,547 --> 01:05:15,827
Speaker 6: you know, did we you know, did we look after

1259
01:05:15,907 --> 01:05:20,147
Speaker 6: the ball? You know, it was a skill where it

1260
01:05:20,227 --> 01:05:24,107
Speaker 6: needed to be. You know, the breakdown stuff became really

1261
01:05:24,187 --> 01:05:27,507
Speaker 6: really contested in that last thirty minutes of the game.

1262
01:05:28,187 --> 01:05:31,747
Speaker 6: You know, did we match that? So we probably didn't,

1263
01:05:31,987 --> 01:05:34,627
Speaker 6: you know, So it's not necessarily game management and the

1264
01:05:34,707 --> 01:05:40,347
Speaker 6: options being taken. It's probably you know, managing the pressure

1265
01:05:40,387 --> 01:05:43,427
Speaker 6: and putting them under pressure with the scoreboard required us

1266
01:05:43,507 --> 01:05:45,067
Speaker 6: to be a lot more accurate than we were.

1267
01:05:45,667 --> 01:05:47,587
Speaker 3: How frustrating was it, John? You know, you're twenty four

1268
01:05:47,627 --> 01:05:50,507
Speaker 3: to seven ahead with an hour gone and then it

1269
01:05:50,627 --> 01:05:52,707
Speaker 3: all turns around. You'd played well for the most part

1270
01:05:52,747 --> 01:05:56,187
Speaker 3: anyway up to that point. How how challenging a watch

1271
01:05:56,347 --> 01:05:57,387
Speaker 3: was it? From the coaching box?

1272
01:06:00,187 --> 01:06:03,267
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess it's like the same for the supporters.

1273
01:06:03,347 --> 01:06:08,587
Speaker 6: Do they can see what's going on. But yeah, like

1274
01:06:09,347 --> 01:06:13,227
Speaker 6: it requires those types of games against you know, the

1275
01:06:14,107 --> 01:06:18,427
Speaker 6: top opposition, and you know in the context and all

1276
01:06:18,547 --> 01:06:22,067
Speaker 6: sorts of things that requires a moment's you know, attention

1277
01:06:22,267 --> 01:06:25,667
Speaker 6: and a moment's execution. And you know, I felt like

1278
01:06:25,787 --> 01:06:27,867
Speaker 6: the boys were locked in. They had a good week.

1279
01:06:28,827 --> 01:06:31,467
Speaker 6: You know, the efforts was there, it's just in the

1280
01:06:31,707 --> 01:06:36,507
Speaker 6: in the crunch moments. You know, some of that skill

1281
01:06:36,627 --> 01:06:38,507
Speaker 6: stuff wasn't where it needed to be.

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Speaker 3: How much were you lean on your senior players to

1283
01:06:41,787 --> 01:06:49,707
Speaker 3: drive a response after this, Yeah, like you do.

1284
01:06:50,187 --> 01:06:52,987
Speaker 6: We are an experienced group. You know, the whole of

1285
01:06:53,067 --> 01:06:56,187
Speaker 6: the group is experienced. They've played a lot of games together.

1286
01:06:56,307 --> 01:06:58,867
Speaker 6: There's good cohesion in the squad. I've been together for

1287
01:06:58,947 --> 01:07:04,427
Speaker 6: a while. So you know the response is you know,

1288
01:07:04,587 --> 01:07:10,227
Speaker 6: that is the responsibility everyone. So coaches included getting the

1289
01:07:10,307 --> 01:07:13,427
Speaker 6: focus and the right spots, you know, working on all

1290
01:07:13,467 --> 01:07:15,427
Speaker 6: the things that we need to work on and nothing

1291
01:07:15,507 --> 01:07:17,707
Speaker 6: that we don't you know, we don't need to get

1292
01:07:18,187 --> 01:07:22,067
Speaker 6: distracted and you know, look under rocks and you know,

1293
01:07:22,867 --> 01:07:25,387
Speaker 6: go down rote holes. We just need to be really clear.

1294
01:07:25,627 --> 01:07:28,467
Speaker 6: This week's a pretty important week for us, but we've

1295
01:07:28,507 --> 01:07:31,747
Speaker 6: also got the opportunity being together and been on the road,

1296
01:07:32,027 --> 01:07:35,107
Speaker 6: and that provides an opportunity as well.

1297
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask that because your head

1298
01:07:37,107 --> 01:07:39,587
Speaker 3: straight across to Western Australia, don't you for your game

1299
01:07:39,627 --> 01:07:42,307
Speaker 3: against the Force next Saturday night? I guess if you

1300
01:07:42,387 --> 01:07:44,307
Speaker 3: were playing at home, the team might break up for

1301
01:07:44,347 --> 01:07:46,027
Speaker 3: a couple of days and then come back together. So

1302
01:07:46,387 --> 01:07:49,467
Speaker 3: you feel it'll be helpful to stay together on tour

1303
01:07:49,547 --> 01:07:51,507
Speaker 3: if you like, ahead of your next game next weekend.

1304
01:07:52,707 --> 01:07:56,707
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think you know there's

1305
01:07:56,747 --> 01:08:00,307
Speaker 6: a lot of benefit and being on the road. Obviously

1306
01:08:00,427 --> 01:08:02,947
Speaker 6: you've played Friday night. We have in the eight day turnaround,

1307
01:08:03,187 --> 01:08:07,947
Speaker 6: so even how we we've got a late departure out

1308
01:08:07,987 --> 01:08:10,947
Speaker 6: of Canberra today, how we use that time, how we

1309
01:08:11,067 --> 01:08:15,267
Speaker 6: use time on the plane, how we use Sunday. I

1310
01:08:15,387 --> 01:08:18,227
Speaker 6: think that's really there's there's a lot of opportunity in it,

1311
01:08:18,267 --> 01:08:21,787
Speaker 6: and it's going to be beneficial because this is an

1312
01:08:21,827 --> 01:08:22,387
Speaker 6: important week.

1313
01:08:22,507 --> 01:08:25,747
Speaker 3: Chris, I see too. Paul Viti is coming home with

1314
01:08:25,827 --> 01:08:29,387
Speaker 3: a knee injury. Is that the same one he injured

1315
01:08:29,467 --> 01:08:30,867
Speaker 3: last year which kept him out of the end of

1316
01:08:30,947 --> 01:08:31,867
Speaker 3: year two with the All Blacks.

1317
01:08:34,067 --> 01:08:36,667
Speaker 6: No, I don't believe so, but it has been an

1318
01:08:36,667 --> 01:08:46,467
Speaker 6: ongoing issue and you know, it's just it requires you know,

1319
01:08:46,547 --> 01:08:50,107
Speaker 6: a bit of management, and it's just, yeah, it's puffed

1320
01:08:50,187 --> 01:08:55,227
Speaker 6: up and it's responded badly from yesterday. So given the

1321
01:08:56,347 --> 01:08:59,587
Speaker 6: nature of only having twenty eight players over here and

1322
01:09:01,027 --> 01:09:03,787
Speaker 6: the importance of this week and the preparate all those

1323
01:09:03,947 --> 01:09:09,067
Speaker 6: types of things, Yeah, placed him in doubt and so

1324
01:09:09,987 --> 01:09:12,947
Speaker 6: making a replacement it's pretty important for the group.

1325
01:09:13,307 --> 01:09:15,587
Speaker 3: So you're hoping he'll be okay. Yeah, Yeah, you're hoping

1326
01:09:15,587 --> 01:09:17,587
Speaker 3: he'll be okay for Easter though when when you get

1327
01:09:17,587 --> 01:09:19,227
Speaker 3: back against the war tas that's the plan.

1328
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll see how We'll see how the next week goes.

1329
01:09:24,107 --> 01:09:27,667
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Daniel Rohner and like I forget the also

1330
01:09:27,787 --> 01:09:30,067
Speaker 3: coming home. How bad are their injuries.

1331
01:09:32,467 --> 01:09:35,427
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're probably within the twenty four hour period of

1332
01:09:36,347 --> 01:09:42,627
Speaker 6: having absolute certainty on the extent, but yeah, significant and

1333
01:09:44,667 --> 01:09:50,347
Speaker 6: really disappointed for both of them. And I think Lola

1334
01:09:50,587 --> 01:09:56,107
Speaker 6: I injured it reasonably quickly when he injured his hand,

1335
01:09:56,147 --> 01:09:58,907
Speaker 6: reasonable quickly when he went on, but you know, he

1336
01:09:59,107 --> 01:10:02,747
Speaker 6: hung up for us, you know, playing with her with

1337
01:10:02,987 --> 01:10:07,387
Speaker 6: broken hand and just digging in was was pretty awesome

1338
01:10:07,627 --> 01:10:10,987
Speaker 6: and speaks really highly of the guy and his commitment

1339
01:10:11,067 --> 01:10:13,307
Speaker 6: to what we're trying to do all.

1340
01:10:13,267 --> 01:10:15,787
Speaker 3: Right, just to finish and so, I mean, you never

1341
01:10:15,827 --> 01:10:17,587
Speaker 3: want to lose a game, right, But in some ways

1342
01:10:17,667 --> 01:10:21,107
Speaker 3: is it a coaching challenge that you relish? Now you

1343
01:10:21,187 --> 01:10:23,187
Speaker 3: talked about getting on the plane, you know, making use

1344
01:10:23,227 --> 01:10:25,707
Speaker 3: of that time, getting over to Western Australia, getting around

1345
01:10:25,747 --> 01:10:28,267
Speaker 3: one another. Is it a coaching challenge that you you

1346
01:10:28,427 --> 01:10:30,667
Speaker 3: in some ways will relish attacking.

1347
01:10:32,667 --> 01:10:36,947
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I think we you know, you're got to

1348
01:10:37,027 --> 01:10:39,827
Speaker 6: take that result on the chin. You've got to, you know,

1349
01:10:39,987 --> 01:10:42,027
Speaker 6: like there's no hard luck stories out of last night.

1350
01:10:43,507 --> 01:10:45,827
Speaker 6: You know, we went good enough to first that off.

1351
01:10:45,907 --> 01:10:48,427
Speaker 6: We had chances. I mean, you know we didn't do it.

1352
01:10:48,747 --> 01:10:52,587
Speaker 6: But you know, for me, we're an experienced group. You know,

1353
01:10:52,787 --> 01:10:54,947
Speaker 6: they've played a lot of rugby together, they've been together

1354
01:10:55,027 --> 01:10:57,667
Speaker 6: for a long time. There's you know, there's a lot

1355
01:10:57,707 --> 01:11:01,707
Speaker 6: of quality in the in the whole group, and you know,

1356
01:11:01,867 --> 01:11:04,867
Speaker 6: we get tighter, we get our focus where it needs

1357
01:11:04,907 --> 01:11:08,147
Speaker 6: to be, and we really the challenge of you know,

1358
01:11:08,827 --> 01:11:12,907
Speaker 6: playing a team that's coming off to buy is at home.

1359
01:11:14,307 --> 01:11:18,507
Speaker 6: I thought the Force were absolutely great value against the Hurricanes,

1360
01:11:19,187 --> 01:11:22,507
Speaker 6: and you need to admire that. You know, they were

1361
01:11:22,547 --> 01:11:24,347
Speaker 6: the team that were about to go on to the

1362
01:11:24,427 --> 01:11:26,587
Speaker 6: buy that had a couple of bad results. They had

1363
01:11:26,627 --> 01:11:29,267
Speaker 6: a lot of reasons or excuses if they wanted to

1364
01:11:30,187 --> 01:11:32,227
Speaker 6: not to turn up against the Hurricanes. But I thought

1365
01:11:32,267 --> 01:11:34,947
Speaker 6: they were great really, so that speaks vog into their culture.

1366
01:11:35,707 --> 01:11:38,907
Speaker 6: And we need to get this week's preparation right and

1367
01:11:39,787 --> 01:11:42,787
Speaker 6: you know, get ready. But you know we're a good

1368
01:11:42,827 --> 01:11:46,827
Speaker 6: group and I know that we can we can.

1369
01:11:46,827 --> 01:11:49,307
Speaker 3: Respond, good man, John, I travel well mate, all the

1370
01:11:49,387 --> 01:11:50,947
Speaker 3: best for the week ahead. I appreciate you taking the

1371
01:11:50,987 --> 01:11:53,187
Speaker 3: time for a chat this afternoon. Okay, thank you, no,

1372
01:11:53,307 --> 01:11:55,867
Speaker 3: thank you, no, thank you John. Johnny Gibs there coach

1373
01:11:56,147 --> 01:11:57,987
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs for some thinking to do with a

1374
01:11:58,027 --> 01:12:01,067
Speaker 3: positive outlook after their thirty three twenty four lost last night.

1375
01:12:01,147 --> 01:12:05,147
Speaker 3: So the remaining games in round six all today, the

1376
01:12:05,227 --> 01:12:07,467
Speaker 3: Fiji and Row at home the Reds from four point

1377
01:12:07,467 --> 01:12:10,867
Speaker 3: thirty five, that game taking place in Latoka. Then Mona

1378
01:12:10,907 --> 01:12:14,467
Speaker 3: pacifica up against the Crusaders at Albany tonight from five

1379
01:12:14,587 --> 01:12:17,787
Speaker 3: past seven, and the Blues in Sydney to take on

1380
01:12:18,147 --> 01:12:21,307
Speaker 3: the waratas at Elian Stadium that's at nine thirty five.

1381
01:12:21,427 --> 01:12:25,387
Speaker 3: The latter two of those games, the WIA PACIFICA Crusaders

1382
01:12:25,427 --> 01:12:27,907
Speaker 3: and Waratars Blues games will have life commentary for you

1383
01:12:28,027 --> 01:12:32,627
Speaker 3: on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Gary says, piety, piety, piney u.

1384
01:12:32,707 --> 01:12:35,627
Speaker 3: Cane supporters always get excited early in the season. The

1385
01:12:35,667 --> 01:12:40,027
Speaker 3: bubbles burst twenty nine out of thirty times. Goodness meet, Garry.

1386
01:12:40,067 --> 01:12:42,387
Speaker 3: You're right a Crusader supporter that's won plenty of bets

1387
01:12:42,427 --> 01:12:44,627
Speaker 3: off Kane supporters even after they've beating the Crusaders early

1388
01:12:44,667 --> 01:12:46,947
Speaker 3: in the season. Keen to take your money this season?

1389
01:12:48,307 --> 01:12:51,427
Speaker 3: I can't, Gary, I take I take your point, though

1390
01:12:51,467 --> 01:12:54,307
Speaker 3: I do any comment. Jason on Angus Gardner getting charged

1391
01:12:54,307 --> 01:12:57,427
Speaker 3: didn't look good? Yeah, completely accidental, right did you see

1392
01:12:57,467 --> 01:13:00,187
Speaker 3: that the referee Angus Gardner got basically got a stinger

1393
01:13:00,227 --> 01:13:02,667
Speaker 3: on his shoulder. Just there was Hugh Rent and ran

1394
01:13:02,747 --> 01:13:05,587
Speaker 3: into him and down he went and initially looked quite bad.

1395
01:13:05,667 --> 01:13:07,267
Speaker 3: I didn't know what I thought it was a knee

1396
01:13:07,307 --> 01:13:09,627
Speaker 3: injury to start with, because he went down and stayed down.

1397
01:13:09,667 --> 01:13:12,107
Speaker 3: But as it was a stinger on the shoulder, you

1398
01:13:12,187 --> 01:13:14,227
Speaker 3: got to get Angus Gardner's due. You got a bit

1399
01:13:14,227 --> 01:13:16,347
Speaker 3: of treatment, got back up and carried on. Had a

1400
01:13:16,387 --> 01:13:19,387
Speaker 3: good game, as is usually the case with Angus Gardner

1401
01:13:19,507 --> 01:13:21,507
Speaker 3: nineteen away from two news talks, there'd be across the

1402
01:13:21,587 --> 01:13:23,907
Speaker 3: Tasman with Adam Peacock when we come back.

1403
01:13:24,507 --> 01:13:28,907
Speaker 2: Call it how you see it on Weekend Sport with

1404
01:13:29,147 --> 01:13:30,707
Speaker 2: Jason Paine and GJ.

1405
01:13:30,947 --> 01:13:34,467
Speaker 1: Gardner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks.

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Speaker 3: A'd be one forty four. Let's get you across the Tasman.

1407
01:13:37,667 --> 01:13:41,547
Speaker 3: Australian Correspondent Adam Peacock with us as always on a Saturday.

1408
01:13:41,627 --> 01:13:44,827
Speaker 3: Can we start with cricket? Adam Cricket Australia Chief Executive

1409
01:13:44,867 --> 01:13:48,427
Speaker 3: Todd Greenberg and State Association bosses have been meeting in

1410
01:13:48,467 --> 01:13:50,507
Speaker 3: Melbourne over the last couple of days. What have they

1411
01:13:50,627 --> 01:13:51,827
Speaker 3: been talking about?

1412
01:13:53,347 --> 01:13:55,547
Speaker 16: Whether or not to sell the farm with a big

1413
01:13:55,627 --> 01:13:58,787
Speaker 16: bash franchises outing a tie on the agenda. That's the

1414
01:13:59,307 --> 01:14:01,627
Speaker 16: that's the biggest story going around. It's been kicking around

1415
01:14:01,707 --> 01:14:06,147
Speaker 16: for off. He just feels like not months but years

1416
01:14:06,747 --> 01:14:10,227
Speaker 16: with whether or not to do what they've done over

1417
01:14:10,267 --> 01:14:13,867
Speaker 16: in England and siphon off some of if not all

1418
01:14:13,947 --> 01:14:16,467
Speaker 16: of their franchises in their franchise Cricket over there. It's

1419
01:14:16,467 --> 01:14:18,907
Speaker 16: called the one hundred here it's called Big Bash Cricket

1420
01:14:18,987 --> 01:14:23,107
Speaker 16: T twenty's. It has to happen, in my opinion, because

1421
01:14:23,147 --> 01:14:27,027
Speaker 16: it's happening everywhere else around the world. The market is

1422
01:14:27,267 --> 01:14:31,787
Speaker 16: a seller's market. It's like there's buyers everywhere. But the

1423
01:14:32,027 --> 01:14:36,387
Speaker 16: question is does it irreversibly change what we know our

1424
01:14:36,467 --> 01:14:39,467
Speaker 16: summer to be, and that's Boxing Day tests, New Year's tests,

1425
01:14:40,587 --> 01:14:42,987
Speaker 16: everything around it. I've got a feeling that will change

1426
01:14:43,027 --> 01:14:47,307
Speaker 16: our calendar. But yeah, that's it's a massive, massive decision

1427
01:14:47,387 --> 01:14:49,107
Speaker 16: to give up control for a bit of cash.

1428
01:14:49,347 --> 01:14:53,227
Speaker 3: So there's there's the fear is that if it's privatized,

1429
01:14:53,267 --> 01:14:56,787
Speaker 3: then they might change the calendar. They might not you know,

1430
01:14:57,027 --> 01:15:01,627
Speaker 3: pay pay due respect to the real traditional international dates

1431
01:15:01,667 --> 01:15:03,027
Speaker 3: in the calendar. Is that the fear?

1432
01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:08,827
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, if you if the franchise owners or the

1433
01:15:08,907 --> 01:15:12,907
Speaker 16: buyers you know, probably think that they're getting a pat

1434
01:15:12,947 --> 01:15:15,947
Speaker 16: comment to Mitchell Starker, you know, Steve Smith to play

1435
01:15:15,987 --> 01:15:20,027
Speaker 16: for them, to use current examples, and then the Test

1436
01:15:20,107 --> 01:15:22,067
Speaker 16: match is on at the same time they turn around

1437
01:15:22,067 --> 01:15:23,947
Speaker 16: and say, no, we're playing the Test match and I'm

1438
01:15:23,987 --> 01:15:27,467
Speaker 16: only available for four of ten Big Bats matches. They're like, well,

1439
01:15:28,307 --> 01:15:30,107
Speaker 16: this is not what we thought two hundred million was

1440
01:15:30,147 --> 01:15:31,427
Speaker 16: going to get us, if you know what I mean.

1441
01:15:31,467 --> 01:15:36,147
Speaker 16: It's a massive, massive call because it is the future.

1442
01:15:36,227 --> 01:15:37,787
Speaker 16: It's the way of the world. I can see in

1443
01:15:37,867 --> 01:15:41,147
Speaker 16: ten years time cricket being a series of franchise leagues

1444
01:15:41,187 --> 01:15:44,467
Speaker 16: where one player is contracted for twelve months and he

1445
01:15:44,627 --> 01:15:46,907
Speaker 16: bounces around and plays four different leagues for instance, and

1446
01:15:46,947 --> 01:15:49,947
Speaker 16: fits in a bit of international cricket. So yeah, it's

1447
01:15:49,987 --> 01:15:52,547
Speaker 16: big and you guys this week I led to believe

1448
01:15:52,707 --> 01:15:56,267
Speaker 16: we're having discussions about beefing up your T twenty competition

1449
01:15:56,347 --> 01:15:58,907
Speaker 16: because it rejected the chance to have a team in

1450
01:15:58,947 --> 01:16:00,027
Speaker 16: the Big Batch.

1451
01:16:00,107 --> 01:16:02,627
Speaker 3: Was there anything on that, wells see, that's the that's

1452
01:16:03,227 --> 01:16:05,867
Speaker 3: a sort of point of confusion over here, Adam, because

1453
01:16:05,907 --> 01:16:09,107
Speaker 3: we still don't have an outcome. There's been a report

1454
01:16:09,187 --> 01:16:12,787
Speaker 3: presented to New Zealand Cricket, you know, with some you

1455
01:16:12,867 --> 01:16:16,027
Speaker 3: know some an assessment of the different ways forward for

1456
01:16:16,107 --> 01:16:18,427
Speaker 3: the T twenty game year. One of those still on

1457
01:16:18,507 --> 01:16:21,307
Speaker 3: the table as I understand it is entry into the

1458
01:16:21,347 --> 01:16:23,787
Speaker 3: Big Bash. But I just don't see how that benefits

1459
01:16:24,427 --> 01:16:27,227
Speaker 3: the New Zealand cricket ecosystem. If one team joins the

1460
01:16:27,227 --> 01:16:29,467
Speaker 3: Big Bass, for example, what about all the other players

1461
01:16:29,587 --> 01:16:30,107
Speaker 3: do they play for?

1462
01:16:31,787 --> 01:16:35,067
Speaker 16: Yeah, and then you're ending up filling that roster with

1463
01:16:35,627 --> 01:16:38,427
Speaker 16: five international players. So does it really benefit New Zealand

1464
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:41,667
Speaker 16: cricket apart from maybe New Zealand Cricket owning that franchise

1465
01:16:41,707 --> 01:16:45,907
Speaker 16: and commercially at becoming a success. So yeah, probably do

1466
01:16:46,027 --> 01:16:48,627
Speaker 16: it yourself seems like a better way forward. But then

1467
01:16:49,307 --> 01:16:52,107
Speaker 16: does the investment that is potentially on the table for

1468
01:16:52,147 --> 01:16:54,667
Speaker 16: Australia go to New Zealand instead and then Australia's left

1469
01:16:54,747 --> 01:16:56,667
Speaker 16: with nothing. These are the things that have been balanced

1470
01:16:56,707 --> 01:16:58,707
Speaker 16: at the moment. It's really really tricky.

1471
01:16:58,827 --> 01:17:01,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, hugely intriguing time for the game on both sides

1472
01:17:01,987 --> 01:17:04,307
Speaker 3: of the Tasman for sure. Let's go to football. The

1473
01:17:04,387 --> 01:17:08,267
Speaker 3: Matilda's your women's team, played jip tonight in Sydney in

1474
01:17:08,387 --> 01:17:12,067
Speaker 3: the final all the Women's Asian Cup. Would Australia be

1475
01:17:12,467 --> 01:17:13,187
Speaker 3: favorites or not?

1476
01:17:14,147 --> 01:17:14,187
Speaker 9: No?

1477
01:17:14,987 --> 01:17:17,907
Speaker 16: No, And the only reason we'd be favorites is because

1478
01:17:18,747 --> 01:17:22,387
Speaker 16: they're with people who live here and don't really have

1479
01:17:22,467 --> 01:17:23,627
Speaker 16: an appreciation about how.

1480
01:17:23,587 --> 01:17:24,267
Speaker 6: Good Japan are.

1481
01:17:25,347 --> 01:17:28,507
Speaker 16: You know, there's a bit of expectation given the fact

1482
01:17:28,547 --> 01:17:31,427
Speaker 16: that we're playing in front of a home crowd and

1483
01:17:31,507 --> 01:17:32,947
Speaker 16: it's going to be massive and we're going to have

1484
01:17:32,987 --> 01:17:35,787
Speaker 16: all that support. But Japan, well, I've seen so far

1485
01:17:35,867 --> 01:17:38,027
Speaker 16: this tournament has done nothing to dispel the series that

1486
01:17:38,107 --> 01:17:40,427
Speaker 16: Japan are ahead of us in terms of the way

1487
01:17:40,467 --> 01:17:42,267
Speaker 16: they play football. That's not to say we can't win

1488
01:17:42,347 --> 01:17:46,747
Speaker 16: the game, though, because I would think that if we

1489
01:17:47,667 --> 01:17:51,787
Speaker 16: sit off and hit them on the counter attack really efficiently,

1490
01:17:51,947 --> 01:17:55,627
Speaker 16: we can cause Japan problems. But if we're not with

1491
01:17:55,827 --> 01:17:58,187
Speaker 16: it together, and this is a game, classic game where

1492
01:17:58,227 --> 01:18:00,307
Speaker 16: you can control the game without the ball, if they

1493
01:18:00,387 --> 01:18:04,667
Speaker 16: can't do that and make them suffocate Japan in the sense,

1494
01:18:04,987 --> 01:18:05,587
Speaker 16: we're in trouble.

1495
01:18:06,467 --> 01:18:08,187
Speaker 3: We'll have eyes on it over here. Ten o'clockick off,

1496
01:18:08,227 --> 01:18:11,147
Speaker 3: New Zealand time, eight o'clock in Sydney and just on football.

1497
01:18:11,627 --> 01:18:15,107
Speaker 3: Tony Popovitch, your Soccero's coach, has named his squad for

1498
01:18:15,227 --> 01:18:21,027
Speaker 3: upcoming matches against Cameroon and Kuroshal. Unlike Alott, who seemed

1499
01:18:21,067 --> 01:18:25,347
Speaker 3: to have a very consistent selection policy, he just continues

1500
01:18:25,467 --> 01:18:29,107
Speaker 3: to surprise with his selections. I mean, can anybody with

1501
01:18:29,147 --> 01:18:31,667
Speaker 3: any confidence right down the twenty six he's going to

1502
01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:32,467
Speaker 3: take to the World.

1503
01:18:32,347 --> 01:18:35,827
Speaker 16: Cup, No, No, I reckon, there's about twenty that are

1504
01:18:35,867 --> 01:18:38,107
Speaker 16: there but the other six and that's good that it

1505
01:18:38,187 --> 01:18:39,987
Speaker 16: means we have of depth. That doesn't mean we've got

1506
01:18:40,427 --> 01:18:44,827
Speaker 16: absolute class throughout the team. There's a lot there's a

1507
01:18:44,947 --> 01:18:48,187
Speaker 16: lot of evenly rated players, so the opportunity exists for

1508
01:18:48,267 --> 01:18:51,507
Speaker 16: players that find fall towards the end of the season. Look,

1509
01:18:51,547 --> 01:18:54,867
Speaker 16: the big, big story was Adrian Sagacic, young fo from Sidney, Ce.

1510
01:18:54,987 --> 01:18:58,827
Speaker 16: You know you've called him in games tiney. He defected

1511
01:18:58,867 --> 01:19:02,787
Speaker 16: to Croatia field like, he just didn't like the fact

1512
01:19:02,787 --> 01:19:04,707
Speaker 16: that Poppa called him into a squad, didn't play him.

1513
01:19:04,707 --> 01:19:07,067
Speaker 16: He wasn't sure, so he went and played. And he's

1514
01:19:07,107 --> 01:19:09,347
Speaker 16: called over a strike who's playing in Scotland in Shuto,

1515
01:19:09,707 --> 01:19:12,067
Speaker 16: a guy who's grown up in Croatian never been to Australia.

1516
01:19:12,147 --> 01:19:14,787
Speaker 16: So yeah, you know it's a bit of mix and

1517
01:19:14,867 --> 01:19:15,307
Speaker 16: match stuff.

1518
01:19:15,347 --> 01:19:17,667
Speaker 8: Do you have the go the.

1519
01:19:17,707 --> 01:19:21,227
Speaker 16: Family heritage factor as well? Over there you've got a

1520
01:19:21,267 --> 01:19:24,347
Speaker 16: lot of you know, European immigrants that have come to

1521
01:19:24,387 --> 01:19:28,187
Speaker 16: Australia's first second generation who have the opportunity to play

1522
01:19:28,227 --> 01:19:29,067
Speaker 16: for other countries.

1523
01:19:29,107 --> 01:19:30,267
Speaker 6: Do you do you have that as much?

1524
01:19:30,467 --> 01:19:34,547
Speaker 3: Yet? Not as much here? No, really, If anything, it's

1525
01:19:34,667 --> 01:19:37,587
Speaker 3: it's the it's do you choose New Zealand or Australia,

1526
01:19:38,027 --> 01:19:40,747
Speaker 3: And I think Giannie Stinson has was a recent example

1527
01:19:40,787 --> 01:19:43,307
Speaker 3: of that. Coming back the other way though, Lachland Bayless,

1528
01:19:43,787 --> 01:19:46,547
Speaker 3: who's playing really well for Newcastle at the moment, has

1529
01:19:46,627 --> 01:19:49,107
Speaker 3: been included in the all White squad for our upcoming matches.

1530
01:19:49,187 --> 01:19:51,267
Speaker 3: So yeah, not so much the European side of it,

1531
01:19:51,387 --> 01:19:54,627
Speaker 3: like you do with Sigachich and others. I think there

1532
01:19:54,707 --> 01:19:56,947
Speaker 3: was a young Italian was there, Volpato as well, who

1533
01:19:57,707 --> 01:19:58,227
Speaker 3: was being taught.

1534
01:19:58,507 --> 01:20:02,107
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's another one, Antonio a Reno who's

1535
01:20:02,147 --> 01:20:04,427
Speaker 16: only sixteen seven. Atho is a bit off, but he's

1536
01:20:04,547 --> 01:20:06,827
Speaker 16: he's going to have the same issue at Italy or Australia.

1537
01:20:06,907 --> 01:20:10,627
Speaker 16: So it's really tricky. I know the Federation keeps tabs

1538
01:20:10,667 --> 01:20:16,427
Speaker 16: on everyone who has shown well, anyone who is possibly eligible.

1539
01:20:16,467 --> 01:20:18,187
Speaker 16: I got this massive long list, and then they just

1540
01:20:18,627 --> 01:20:20,387
Speaker 16: stay in contact with them and see what they're going

1541
01:20:20,427 --> 01:20:23,587
Speaker 16: to do. And yeah, Sega's just decided steadfastly nut from

1542
01:20:23,627 --> 01:20:26,227
Speaker 16: going to Croatia, and I think he leaves with everyone's

1543
01:20:26,267 --> 01:20:28,747
Speaker 16: best wishes, And Tony Povish basically said, well, I can't

1544
01:20:28,867 --> 01:20:30,387
Speaker 16: guarantee the kid a socker.

1545
01:20:30,547 --> 01:20:30,907
Speaker 6: Your shirt.

1546
01:20:30,987 --> 01:20:31,947
Speaker 16: That's not how it works.

1547
01:20:32,027 --> 01:20:33,467
Speaker 3: So if he wants to go, good luck to me

1548
01:20:33,627 --> 01:20:35,947
Speaker 3: absolutely all right, Hey are always good catching up on

1549
01:20:35,987 --> 01:20:38,027
Speaker 3: Australian sport with you, Adam. Have an excellent weekend mate.

1550
01:20:38,027 --> 01:20:39,387
Speaker 3: We'll check again next Saturday.

1551
01:20:40,107 --> 01:20:41,107
Speaker 16: You too, finally have a good one.

1552
01:20:41,147 --> 01:20:42,707
Speaker 3: You have a good one to Adam. Thanks indeed, Adam

1553
01:20:42,707 --> 01:20:46,347
Speaker 3: Peacock that our regular Australian correspondent around about this time

1554
01:20:46,707 --> 01:20:49,147
Speaker 3: on Saturday afternoon Sir at News Talks it B eight

1555
01:20:49,347 --> 01:20:50,147
Speaker 3: and a half to two.

1556
01:20:51,187 --> 01:20:54,907
Speaker 1: When there's a line call, it's your call. Weekend Sport

1557
01:20:55,267 --> 01:20:57,427
Speaker 1: with Jason five News Talks.

1558
01:20:57,267 --> 01:21:01,507
Speaker 3: ITV coming up five to two. Just checking it on

1559
01:21:01,627 --> 01:21:05,187
Speaker 3: domestic cricket and the Planket Shield. A disastrous morning session

1560
01:21:05,747 --> 01:21:07,907
Speaker 3: for the Central Stags in the lungey order. They lost

1561
01:21:08,027 --> 01:21:10,187
Speaker 3: nine wickets and we're bowled out for one hundred and

1562
01:21:10,267 --> 01:21:13,667
Speaker 3: fifty nine and have thus been eliminated from the Plunket

1563
01:21:13,787 --> 01:21:17,867
Speaker 3: Shield title race. Canterbury won by two hundred and seventy

1564
01:21:17,947 --> 01:21:20,987
Speaker 3: nine runs. They maintained top spot on the ladder heading

1565
01:21:21,067 --> 01:21:24,747
Speaker 3: into next week's decisive final round, so there's only one

1566
01:21:24,787 --> 01:21:28,987
Speaker 3: game left after Auckland yesterday beat Wellington inside three days

1567
01:21:29,027 --> 01:21:30,827
Speaker 3: at the baseminent reserve. The only remaining game is at

1568
01:21:31,107 --> 01:21:35,987
Speaker 3: the University of Otago Ovl in Dunedin, where it's Otago

1569
01:21:36,187 --> 01:21:39,227
Speaker 3: chasing in the fourth innings day won forty six for four.

1570
01:21:40,067 --> 01:21:42,187
Speaker 3: They need another two hundred and seven runs to win

1571
01:21:42,747 --> 01:21:44,627
Speaker 3: with six wickets remaining. They're at lunch at the moment

1572
01:21:44,627 --> 01:21:46,227
Speaker 3: they're back from lunch and around ten minutes or so

1573
01:21:46,787 --> 01:21:50,387
Speaker 3: they'll reserve it one forty six for four. They're chasing

1574
01:21:50,787 --> 01:21:53,947
Speaker 3: what three hundred and fifty three to wins another two

1575
01:21:54,027 --> 01:21:57,387
Speaker 3: hundred and seven with six second innings wickets in hand

1576
01:21:57,427 --> 01:22:00,027
Speaker 3: in a couple of sessions to play there down interned

1577
01:22:00,067 --> 01:22:01,787
Speaker 3: and we'll keep eyes on that for you this afternoon

1578
01:22:02,067 --> 01:22:03,827
Speaker 3: after our news. It too will catch you up on

1579
01:22:03,907 --> 01:22:05,627
Speaker 3: some of the stuff you may have missed in case

1580
01:22:05,707 --> 01:22:08,027
Speaker 3: you missed it. Of course, as we always do after

1581
01:22:08,107 --> 01:22:10,907
Speaker 3: the two o'clock news on weekend sport and then into

1582
01:22:10,947 --> 01:22:15,347
Speaker 3: football we go. Auckland FC will this afternoon play a

1583
01:22:15,467 --> 01:22:17,987
Speaker 3: milestone match in the A League. It's their fiftieth game

1584
01:22:18,467 --> 01:22:21,987
Speaker 3: in the A League and it's an incredible forty nine

1585
01:22:22,067 --> 01:22:24,267
Speaker 3: games they've played up until now. You know, they've only

1586
01:22:24,307 --> 01:22:27,507
Speaker 3: lost eight of their forty nine matches. I mean that

1587
01:22:27,627 --> 01:22:30,587
Speaker 3: stacks up with any professional team anywhere in the world.

1588
01:22:31,027 --> 01:22:34,227
Speaker 3: Francis devrees. They're left back and at the moment captain

1589
01:22:34,307 --> 01:22:37,747
Speaker 3: of the side has started every single one of their

1590
01:22:37,827 --> 01:22:40,867
Speaker 3: forty nine matches to date and no doubt we'll start

1591
01:22:40,907 --> 01:22:42,467
Speaker 3: this afternoon as well. He's gonna have a chat to

1592
01:22:42,547 --> 01:22:45,547
Speaker 3: us after the news it too. And Lachland Bayless speaking

1593
01:22:45,667 --> 01:22:48,547
Speaker 3: of football, a name that perhaps you know a few

1594
01:22:48,547 --> 01:22:51,547
Speaker 3: football fans may not have been aware of. He's been

1595
01:22:51,587 --> 01:22:54,867
Speaker 3: playing for the Newcastle Jets, but called into the All

1596
01:22:54,907 --> 01:22:57,907
Speaker 3: Whites for upcoming matches on Friday night against Finland and

1597
01:22:58,027 --> 01:23:00,787
Speaker 3: the following Monday against Chile. So Lochland Bayless going to

1598
01:23:00,907 --> 01:23:02,547
Speaker 3: join us after two o'clock as well.

1599
01:23:03,707 --> 01:23:07,547
Speaker 1: The only player for the big names, the big issues,

1600
01:23:07,907 --> 01:23:12,667
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1601
01:23:12,867 --> 01:23:16,707
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home with Sport

1602
01:23:17,067 --> 01:23:17,867
Speaker 1: News Talks MB.

1603
01:23:18,907 --> 01:23:21,187
Speaker 3: It's like coming up tow seven. I'm Jason Pine, Andy

1604
01:23:21,267 --> 01:23:24,147
Speaker 3: McDonald's show producers. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk

1605
01:23:24,187 --> 01:23:26,667
Speaker 3: TEP BET till three. Tim Beveridge taking over after that

1606
01:23:26,747 --> 01:23:29,307
Speaker 3: for the Weekend Collective. Before we do that hand the

1607
01:23:29,387 --> 01:23:32,227
Speaker 3: reins over that is but a football and some sailing

1608
01:23:32,267 --> 01:23:37,227
Speaker 3: as well. Keepe Olympian Jason Saunders part of the French Challenge,

1609
01:23:37,627 --> 01:23:41,267
Speaker 3: building some serious momentum and acquiring a couple of fairly

1610
01:23:41,747 --> 01:23:45,307
Speaker 3: handy teammates ahead of the thirty eighth America's Cup next year.

1611
01:23:45,667 --> 01:23:47,267
Speaker 3: Jason Saorn is going to join us to tell us

1612
01:23:47,267 --> 01:23:51,467
Speaker 3: more before three o'clock. We'll also welcome back to Weekend

1613
01:23:51,587 --> 01:23:56,427
Speaker 3: Sport a very popular competition we ran for quite a

1614
01:23:56,507 --> 01:24:01,307
Speaker 3: large chunk of last year, called a Sporting Chance. We

1615
01:24:01,507 --> 01:24:04,787
Speaker 3: basically give you a choice of three bets, You decide

1616
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Speaker 3: which one you want, and we'll play a one hundred

1617
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Speaker 3: and fifty dollars bonus bet on your behalf and if

1618
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Speaker 3: it comes home, the winnings minus the initial one fifty,

1619
01:24:14,627 --> 01:24:18,147
Speaker 3: of course, are all yours. A Sporting Chance it's back

1620
01:24:18,427 --> 01:24:22,027
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six. We'll play it before three o'clock.

1621
01:24:22,147 --> 01:24:24,747
Speaker 3: In football two Francis de Breeze shortly out of Auckland

1622
01:24:24,827 --> 01:24:27,867
Speaker 3: FC Locke Bayless brand you all white also going to

1623
01:24:27,907 --> 01:24:30,387
Speaker 3: have a chat to us. Our lines of communication are

1624
01:24:30,387 --> 01:24:33,587
Speaker 3: always open for you. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty's

1625
01:24:33,627 --> 01:24:35,627
Speaker 3: the phone number nine two nine two for text messages

1626
01:24:35,667 --> 01:24:38,667
Speaker 3: emails to Jason at Newstalk STB dot co dot nz.

1627
01:24:38,867 --> 01:24:41,307
Speaker 3: But as we tick past eight past two, as we

1628
01:24:41,387 --> 01:24:44,227
Speaker 3: always do on weekend Sport after the two o'clock news,

1629
01:24:44,267 --> 01:24:45,627
Speaker 3: we like to bring you up to date with some

1630
01:24:45,707 --> 01:24:48,787
Speaker 3: of the stuff that's happened in the last little while

1631
01:24:48,827 --> 01:24:51,787
Speaker 3: that you might not have caught up with, in case

1632
01:24:51,867 --> 01:24:55,347
Speaker 3: you missed it. Cricket, the White Ferns bouncing back with

1633
01:24:55,467 --> 01:24:58,907
Speaker 3: a six wicket winner of South Africa at Eden Park

1634
01:24:58,987 --> 01:25:02,267
Speaker 3: and the third match of their five match T twenty

1635
01:25:02,427 --> 01:25:05,507
Speaker 3: series at Eden Park, Sophie Divine star.

1636
01:25:06,387 --> 01:25:08,947
Speaker 19: Meanwhile, the White Fans in the battle saving to Vine

1637
01:25:09,867 --> 01:25:11,387
Speaker 19: heading a long should be cut.

1638
01:25:11,227 --> 01:25:13,227
Speaker 2: Off, No, it won't be soon.

1639
01:25:13,307 --> 01:25:16,027
Speaker 3: Aless was running around but to clac goes for four

1640
01:25:16,747 --> 01:25:17,587
Speaker 3: first brought.

1641
01:25:17,427 --> 01:25:20,547
Speaker 17: The over fifty up for Sophie Divine and.

1642
01:25:20,667 --> 01:25:22,627
Speaker 3: The black Caps have also made it two to one

1643
01:25:22,907 --> 01:25:30,347
Speaker 3: in their series against South Africa. Quick single well secure

1644
01:25:30,467 --> 01:25:32,427
Speaker 3: victory for New Zealand.

1645
01:25:33,347 --> 01:25:36,067
Speaker 2: A comprehensive win for the black Caps.

1646
01:25:36,907 --> 01:25:39,707
Speaker 20: They did the business with the ball and now leave

1647
01:25:39,787 --> 01:25:43,147
Speaker 20: them has led them to a fantastic win.

1648
01:25:43,347 --> 01:25:47,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom Latham sixty three Lockie Ferguson sixty three old

1649
01:25:47,547 --> 01:25:51,267
Speaker 3: alection Tom Latham are Lockey Ferguson one for nine from

1650
01:25:51,347 --> 01:25:54,187
Speaker 3: four overs, amazing t twenty figures are Game four in

1651
01:25:54,267 --> 01:25:58,267
Speaker 3: both series. Tomorrow in Wellington to the NRL the Penrith

1652
01:25:58,347 --> 01:26:02,427
Speaker 3: Panthers oozing class, sweeping aside the Roosters.

1653
01:26:03,427 --> 01:26:06,427
Speaker 21: Let's try they'll get to forty quick Exhade Smith and

1654
01:26:06,547 --> 01:26:10,627
Speaker 21: Cleary Venu now Edwards Edwards just up so it runs

1655
01:26:10,667 --> 01:26:14,267
Speaker 21: over Pegreck had got another one.

1656
01:26:14,867 --> 01:26:16,787
Speaker 18: Had totally deserved for their.

1657
01:26:16,707 --> 01:26:20,827
Speaker 3: Fullback forty points to four. They beat the Roosters, did

1658
01:26:20,827 --> 01:26:24,307
Speaker 3: the Panthers. The Broncos, meantime, coming from behind to win

1659
01:26:24,347 --> 01:26:27,027
Speaker 3: their Grand Final Remat came on.

1660
01:26:28,667 --> 01:26:33,267
Speaker 21: Passic furture, Tony Stags explodes into the cap and take

1661
01:26:33,347 --> 01:26:34,147
Speaker 21: your be labor.

1662
01:26:34,467 --> 01:26:40,667
Speaker 3: The Broncos hurry the front, the cutback kids under eighteen fourteen.

1663
01:26:40,747 --> 01:26:43,707
Speaker 3: The Broncos over the storm and finally it could very

1664
01:26:43,787 --> 01:26:47,947
Speaker 3: well be the year of the Wellington Phoenix women.

1665
01:26:47,987 --> 01:26:49,827
Speaker 2: Be as big as any they've scored this season.

1666
01:26:51,747 --> 01:27:04,147
Speaker 21: Elliot's delivery, Barry's head up, Wellington lead turn rounds complete

1667
01:27:04,227 --> 01:27:05,467
Speaker 21: for the Phoenix.

1668
01:27:06,427 --> 01:27:09,227
Speaker 1: Of big names and the big calls on your home

1669
01:27:09,307 --> 01:27:13,747
Speaker 1: of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Fine news talks MB.

1670
01:27:14,667 --> 01:27:16,427
Speaker 3: Coming up eleven past two just before we moved to

1671
01:27:16,547 --> 01:27:18,987
Speaker 3: Auckland FC. Just on the Wellington Phoenix women. So they

1672
01:27:19,027 --> 01:27:21,227
Speaker 3: won last night. They're up to second on the table.

1673
01:27:21,867 --> 01:27:24,867
Speaker 3: They are just three points behind Melbourne City who are top,

1674
01:27:25,307 --> 01:27:28,387
Speaker 3: and Melbourne City have played one more game. So win

1675
01:27:28,427 --> 01:27:31,107
Speaker 3: your game in hand if you're Wellington Phoenix and you

1676
01:27:31,227 --> 01:27:33,947
Speaker 3: move level at the top and Wellington have a better

1677
01:27:34,027 --> 01:27:37,267
Speaker 3: goal difference. There are only three games to go in

1678
01:27:37,307 --> 01:27:40,827
Speaker 3: the regular season. Melbourne have two, Melbourne City, that is,

1679
01:27:40,947 --> 01:27:44,987
Speaker 3: Wellington have three. If Wellington Phoenix were to win their

1680
01:27:45,067 --> 01:27:47,547
Speaker 3: three remaining matches in the regular season, they would in

1681
01:27:47,707 --> 01:27:52,547
Speaker 3: all likelihood win the Premiers played. It'll be Wellington Phoenix's

1682
01:27:52,587 --> 01:27:57,747
Speaker 3: first ever piece of silverware men or women, and astonishingly

1683
01:27:57,827 --> 01:27:59,707
Speaker 3: this is the first time or will be. It's not

1684
01:27:59,947 --> 01:28:03,147
Speaker 3: absolutely guaranteed yet, but it need a catastrophe for it

1685
01:28:03,267 --> 01:28:05,467
Speaker 3: not to happen very first time. The Phoenix women have

1686
01:28:05,547 --> 01:28:08,467
Speaker 3: even made the final leat alone challenge for silverware, so

1687
01:28:09,067 --> 01:28:11,387
Speaker 3: they are doing something absolutely right. They stay over in

1688
01:28:11,387 --> 01:28:15,107
Speaker 3: Australia play the Mariners on Wednesday night. Western Sydney Wanderers

1689
01:28:15,187 --> 01:28:18,827
Speaker 3: back here in New Zealand Pottydoor Park to be precise

1690
01:28:18,947 --> 01:28:21,427
Speaker 3: next Sunday and then the final game is away at

1691
01:28:21,427 --> 01:28:23,627
Speaker 3: Adelaide United. Who knows it could be a pretty special

1692
01:28:23,707 --> 01:28:27,947
Speaker 3: month coming up for the Wellington Phoenix women am Alestone

1693
01:28:27,987 --> 01:28:31,227
Speaker 3: Max meantime for Auckland FC this afternoon. They'll play their

1694
01:28:31,307 --> 01:28:35,107
Speaker 3: fiftieth A League men's game when they host MacArthur at

1695
01:28:35,187 --> 01:28:38,187
Speaker 3: Go Media Stadium from three o'clock this afternoon. They moved

1696
01:28:38,187 --> 01:28:41,587
Speaker 3: to within one point of leaders Newcastle at the top

1697
01:28:41,667 --> 01:28:44,907
Speaker 3: of the table when they beat the Jets in Newcastle

1698
01:28:45,027 --> 01:28:45,627
Speaker 3: last weekend.

1699
01:28:46,187 --> 01:28:50,307
Speaker 22: Randall uses them debrees with that cross Backtos costs group

1700
01:28:50,427 --> 01:28:53,747
Speaker 22: this time in Max no mistake. Well less than two

1701
01:28:53,867 --> 01:29:01,107
Speaker 22: minutes after completely mishitting Parsine, Auckland extract the maximum penalty.

1702
01:29:00,787 --> 01:29:02,787
Speaker 3: They lead to one and they won it to one

1703
01:29:02,907 --> 01:29:05,947
Speaker 3: last weekend. Left back Francis Devrees, who provided that cross

1704
01:29:05,987 --> 01:29:09,827
Speaker 3: for Sam Cosgrove, has started every single one of Auckland

1705
01:29:09,947 --> 01:29:13,187
Speaker 3: FC's forty nine matches to date. He joins us now

1706
01:29:13,267 --> 01:29:16,427
Speaker 3: the club's fiftieth match. Francis, is this something that gets

1707
01:29:16,507 --> 01:29:19,827
Speaker 3: recognized internally or is it perhaps something more for the

1708
01:29:19,907 --> 01:29:22,627
Speaker 3: fans of the club and for us in the media.

1709
01:29:23,027 --> 01:29:25,107
Speaker 9: I think a little bit more for you and the fans.

1710
01:29:25,347 --> 01:29:28,187
Speaker 23: I'm sure there'll be mentioned of it as we do

1711
01:29:28,307 --> 01:29:30,867
Speaker 23: our final preparations for the game, but as you know

1712
01:29:31,027 --> 01:29:33,467
Speaker 23: that it's the business end of the A League season

1713
01:29:33,547 --> 01:29:38,187
Speaker 23: and it's very much focused on how we're performing and

1714
01:29:38,227 --> 01:29:41,307
Speaker 23: how we're training and how we're getting ready for what's

1715
01:29:41,427 --> 01:29:43,787
Speaker 23: probably the most important time of the year. So I

1716
01:29:43,867 --> 01:29:46,547
Speaker 23: think there's a bit more focus on that particular aspect

1717
01:29:46,627 --> 01:29:47,187
Speaker 23: at the moment.

1718
01:29:47,507 --> 01:29:49,947
Speaker 3: You have been there since the start, obviously, how much

1719
01:29:50,027 --> 01:29:53,227
Speaker 3: has this team evolved over the first fifty matches of

1720
01:29:53,347 --> 01:29:54,067
Speaker 3: its life.

1721
01:29:55,347 --> 01:29:57,787
Speaker 23: Quite a bit, I think. I think it's been quite

1722
01:29:58,147 --> 01:30:02,627
Speaker 23: enjoyable to see for everybody. We've had a great crowd

1723
01:30:02,667 --> 01:30:06,787
Speaker 23: support throughout the whole time, so that's been magic, and

1724
01:30:06,947 --> 01:30:09,547
Speaker 23: to see I think the style of play evolving as well.

1725
01:30:10,587 --> 01:30:13,227
Speaker 9: So like this year, we have progressed a lot in

1726
01:30:13,347 --> 01:30:16,907
Speaker 9: how we play in position and how we look to

1727
01:30:17,587 --> 01:30:19,827
Speaker 9: have a more measure of control over games.

1728
01:30:19,947 --> 01:30:23,427
Speaker 23: Especially with the ball. So it's nice to see also

1729
01:30:24,307 --> 01:30:28,707
Speaker 23: individual players developing. I'm sure you've probably got some things

1730
01:30:28,707 --> 01:30:30,907
Speaker 23: to say about that in a bit, but it's been

1731
01:30:30,987 --> 01:30:33,827
Speaker 23: really nice to see a lot of individuals succeeding as

1732
01:30:33,867 --> 01:30:34,587
Speaker 23: well within the team.

1733
01:30:34,707 --> 01:30:36,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to talk about a couple of players,

1734
01:30:36,387 --> 01:30:40,587
Speaker 3: but collectively, just eight defeats in forty nine matches. That

1735
01:30:40,787 --> 01:30:44,187
Speaker 3: is an incredible record. Regardless of the league you're playing in.

1736
01:30:45,267 --> 01:30:47,987
Speaker 3: Have you been able to cease or evaluate why you

1737
01:30:48,147 --> 01:30:52,067
Speaker 3: have been so consistent as a team over fifty games.

1738
01:30:53,667 --> 01:30:54,387
Speaker 2: It's a good question.

1739
01:30:54,467 --> 01:30:56,147
Speaker 23: Again, you get caught up in this week to week,

1740
01:30:56,187 --> 01:30:57,907
Speaker 23: don't you when you're a player just focusing on the

1741
01:30:57,987 --> 01:31:00,347
Speaker 23: next game. And maybe that's part of the success of

1742
01:31:01,187 --> 01:31:05,507
Speaker 23: not really looking at the whole picture and rather just

1743
01:31:05,707 --> 01:31:08,467
Speaker 23: breaking it down week by week and looking at what

1744
01:31:08,827 --> 01:31:10,867
Speaker 23: you need to do individually and then what the team

1745
01:31:10,907 --> 01:31:14,467
Speaker 23: needs to do collectively to be successful, and probably just

1746
01:31:14,587 --> 01:31:17,187
Speaker 23: the attitude of all the players working for each other.

1747
01:31:17,347 --> 01:31:20,867
Speaker 23: And you can see how hard everybody goes for the

1748
01:31:20,907 --> 01:31:24,307
Speaker 23: whole game. So if you can consistently do that and

1749
01:31:24,387 --> 01:31:26,907
Speaker 23: then have quality as we do within the squad, then

1750
01:31:27,067 --> 01:31:29,187
Speaker 23: it's a great recipe for success.

1751
01:31:29,427 --> 01:31:31,507
Speaker 3: And there's been a solid corps of players too. I

1752
01:31:31,547 --> 01:31:35,107
Speaker 3: mean obviously yourself, but the likes of Gigimomi, Logan Rogerson,

1753
01:31:35,547 --> 01:31:38,627
Speaker 3: Felipe Guy gos Leuivi, Strata Jesse Randal, Jake Brummer. These

1754
01:31:38,667 --> 01:31:41,627
Speaker 3: guys have all played over forty of the forty nine

1755
01:31:41,747 --> 01:31:44,067
Speaker 3: games that the team has played. How much of a

1756
01:31:44,147 --> 01:31:45,827
Speaker 3: factor has that solid core been.

1757
01:31:47,067 --> 01:31:48,107
Speaker 9: I think definitely a lot.

1758
01:31:48,267 --> 01:31:52,347
Speaker 23: I don't want to discredit the whole squad because everybody

1759
01:31:52,467 --> 01:31:56,347
Speaker 23: works just as hard in training. Everybody comes with the

1760
01:31:56,387 --> 01:32:00,507
Speaker 23: same commitment and the same effort, So the whole squad.

1761
01:32:00,467 --> 01:32:02,827
Speaker 9: Is where I would say the real success lies.

1762
01:32:03,347 --> 01:32:07,187
Speaker 23: Then I think it is rather unusual to have a

1763
01:32:07,267 --> 01:32:09,107
Speaker 23: core group of players playing so many games.

1764
01:32:10,227 --> 01:32:13,787
Speaker 9: Usually you see a little bit more rotation, whether that's

1765
01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:14,107
Speaker 9: due to.

1766
01:32:14,187 --> 01:32:18,307
Speaker 23: Injuries or different other factors that have happened. So to

1767
01:32:18,427 --> 01:32:22,547
Speaker 23: get the chemistry between the players is really great. I

1768
01:32:22,627 --> 01:32:25,827
Speaker 23: think Men and Jester have played almost every game on

1769
01:32:25,867 --> 01:32:28,467
Speaker 23: the left together, and it definitely helps when you have

1770
01:32:28,627 --> 01:32:31,907
Speaker 23: someone like that that you can learn how they play

1771
01:32:31,907 --> 01:32:34,107
Speaker 23: a loo, where they want the ball, how they move

1772
01:32:34,267 --> 01:32:36,587
Speaker 23: that kind of thing, and it definitely gives you that

1773
01:32:36,707 --> 01:32:40,547
Speaker 23: little bit of extra understanding and connection when the pressure's

1774
01:32:40,587 --> 01:32:41,147
Speaker 23: on in the game.

1775
01:32:41,667 --> 01:32:44,587
Speaker 3: I've often heard it said that a player's best ability

1776
01:32:44,867 --> 01:32:48,747
Speaker 3: is availability, and that's been the hallmark or one of

1777
01:32:48,867 --> 01:32:50,947
Speaker 3: them as far as you're concerned, what has been the

1778
01:32:51,067 --> 01:32:54,627
Speaker 3: key to you staying fit and being selected every week.

1779
01:32:56,227 --> 01:32:57,027
Speaker 2: That's a great question.

1780
01:32:57,067 --> 01:33:00,347
Speaker 23: I'm not sure I can answer it just this quickly,

1781
01:33:00,547 --> 01:33:04,707
Speaker 23: but I think just the foundation of it is a

1782
01:33:04,827 --> 01:33:07,067
Speaker 23: couple of things, like just having a really good, solid

1783
01:33:08,227 --> 01:33:10,987
Speaker 23: home life, like Lester supports me a lot, and my

1784
01:33:11,107 --> 01:33:13,267
Speaker 23: parents support me a lot, so you can't do.

1785
01:33:13,267 --> 01:33:16,067
Speaker 9: It by yourself, like it's all about the people around you.

1786
01:33:16,307 --> 01:33:20,347
Speaker 23: And then also having the discipline to stick with your

1787
01:33:20,387 --> 01:33:23,467
Speaker 23: recovery routines, and then a little bit of luck as

1788
01:33:23,507 --> 01:33:25,867
Speaker 23: well to not pick up a knock. You know, a

1789
01:33:25,907 --> 01:33:28,427
Speaker 23: lot of players have really good habits, but they get unlucky,

1790
01:33:28,507 --> 01:33:31,267
Speaker 23: they get hit somewhere or do something, and that's happened

1791
01:33:31,267 --> 01:33:33,267
Speaker 23: to me in the past of my career. So it's

1792
01:33:33,307 --> 01:33:36,267
Speaker 23: been really nice to have this consistent run and feel

1793
01:33:36,307 --> 01:33:39,507
Speaker 23: like you're contributing to the team as much as you can.

1794
01:33:39,907 --> 01:33:41,667
Speaker 3: And there have been a couple of occasions too where

1795
01:33:41,667 --> 01:33:45,267
Speaker 3: you've flyn back from international duty, long haul travel and

1796
01:33:45,467 --> 01:33:48,707
Speaker 3: still started the next Auckland FC match.

1797
01:33:48,747 --> 01:33:51,787
Speaker 23: Well, those games a bit tougher, Yeah, definitely, those were

1798
01:33:51,867 --> 01:33:55,427
Speaker 23: hard games. I remember I think the victory game was

1799
01:33:55,507 --> 01:33:57,507
Speaker 23: the first game of the season and I arrived I

1800
01:33:57,587 --> 01:33:59,627
Speaker 23: think at one am on the Friday morning before we

1801
01:33:59,667 --> 01:34:03,787
Speaker 23: played on Saturday, and it was just hotel bed and training.

1802
01:34:04,227 --> 01:34:06,307
Speaker 23: Is ll I remember from that trip until the game,

1803
01:34:06,547 --> 01:34:10,707
Speaker 23: because yeah, it was just constantly trying to play catch

1804
01:34:10,787 --> 01:34:13,547
Speaker 23: up a little bit with the body. But honestly, like

1805
01:34:14,027 --> 01:34:17,347
Speaker 23: from where I came in my career, like you know,

1806
01:34:17,427 --> 01:34:19,947
Speaker 23: obviously playing at the amateur and semi pro levels for

1807
01:34:20,027 --> 01:34:22,347
Speaker 23: many years, like to be able to have these opportunities,

1808
01:34:22,387 --> 01:34:25,347
Speaker 23: I think is another factor of that. You don't take

1809
01:34:25,387 --> 01:34:29,867
Speaker 23: anything for granted anymore, and you really understand yourself and

1810
01:34:29,987 --> 01:34:32,787
Speaker 23: your game and you can stick with those principles. And

1811
01:34:33,467 --> 01:34:35,107
Speaker 23: if you can do that in your mind, then even

1812
01:34:35,147 --> 01:34:37,787
Speaker 23: if your body is physically a little bit not at

1813
01:34:37,827 --> 01:34:41,267
Speaker 23: the top level, you can still perform to an adequate

1814
01:34:42,307 --> 01:34:43,187
Speaker 23: level that you need to.

1815
01:34:43,707 --> 01:34:47,147
Speaker 3: You've also taken the captain's armband several times in particular

1816
01:34:47,227 --> 01:34:49,827
Speaker 3: this season and the absence of a Roki Sakai who's

1817
01:34:49,867 --> 01:34:51,987
Speaker 3: kind of battled hamstring injuries and such like. How much

1818
01:34:52,027 --> 01:34:54,347
Speaker 3: have you enjoyed the leadership side of your game this year?

1819
01:34:55,347 --> 01:34:56,147
Speaker 24: No, it's been nice.

1820
01:34:56,187 --> 01:34:59,547
Speaker 23: It's been nice that obviously people in the community recognize

1821
01:34:59,547 --> 01:35:01,827
Speaker 23: that and that's probably what you get the most buzz

1822
01:35:01,907 --> 01:35:04,467
Speaker 23: off because it's not something you directly goide and look for,

1823
01:35:04,747 --> 01:35:07,627
Speaker 23: like it's something that should happen to you, I think

1824
01:35:07,707 --> 01:35:10,787
Speaker 23: based on how you act and if you're consistent in

1825
01:35:10,867 --> 01:35:13,427
Speaker 23: your behaviors as well as your performances.

1826
01:35:12,987 --> 01:35:14,227
Speaker 3: And so it's been nice.

1827
01:35:14,267 --> 01:35:16,267
Speaker 23: Obviously Rocky is a great role model in terms of

1828
01:35:16,947 --> 01:35:18,747
Speaker 23: how to be as a captain, so I've learned a

1829
01:35:18,827 --> 01:35:22,507
Speaker 23: lot from him and as I have over previous captains

1830
01:35:22,547 --> 01:35:25,147
Speaker 23: that I've had in my career. So no, it's been

1831
01:35:25,227 --> 01:35:29,867
Speaker 23: a lovely touch and something that I definitely feel proud of.

1832
01:35:30,627 --> 01:35:34,067
Speaker 3: The win over Newcastle in Newcastle last weekend brought to

1833
01:35:34,107 --> 01:35:36,187
Speaker 3: you with brought you to within one point of them

1834
01:35:36,187 --> 01:35:37,907
Speaker 3: at the top of the table five games to go,

1835
01:35:38,787 --> 01:35:43,107
Speaker 3: huge result. How much did that win solidify the confidence

1836
01:35:43,147 --> 01:35:45,467
Speaker 3: inside the playing group that you can go now and

1837
01:35:45,587 --> 01:35:47,067
Speaker 3: win the Premiers played again.

1838
01:35:47,947 --> 01:35:51,067
Speaker 23: A lot, I think, I think, I mean you've seen

1839
01:35:51,107 --> 01:35:54,187
Speaker 23: our season here, like I think we've actually been playing

1840
01:35:54,227 --> 01:35:56,147
Speaker 23: really well in a lot of games and sometimes not

1841
01:35:56,227 --> 01:35:59,787
Speaker 23: got the results for whatever reason. There's been obviously different

1842
01:35:59,827 --> 01:36:02,027
Speaker 23: ones in each game, but I think we knew within

1843
01:36:02,107 --> 01:36:06,587
Speaker 23: the group that we were on a good role on

1844
01:36:06,667 --> 01:36:09,987
Speaker 23: a good development process with our performance, and obviously in

1845
01:36:09,987 --> 01:36:11,707
Speaker 23: a game like this where there's no guarantees and it

1846
01:36:11,787 --> 01:36:14,027
Speaker 23: feels like a final to come through in the manner

1847
01:36:14,107 --> 01:36:17,427
Speaker 23: that we did definitely gives you the trust and your

1848
01:36:17,467 --> 01:36:20,307
Speaker 23: teammates and in the processes that we've been developing.

1849
01:36:20,387 --> 01:36:21,187
Speaker 9: So yeah, it was huge.

1850
01:36:22,067 --> 01:36:23,987
Speaker 3: And at the stage of the season five games to go,

1851
01:36:24,627 --> 01:36:27,107
Speaker 3: is it more about just finding ways to get the

1852
01:36:27,187 --> 01:36:29,787
Speaker 3: three points or do you still try to stick as

1853
01:36:29,867 --> 01:36:32,147
Speaker 3: true to your principles as you possibly can.

1854
01:36:32,907 --> 01:36:33,707
Speaker 9: That's a great question.

1855
01:36:33,867 --> 01:36:35,707
Speaker 23: I think it's something we learned from last year that

1856
01:36:36,587 --> 01:36:39,547
Speaker 23: we do need to stick with what works for us,

1857
01:36:39,627 --> 01:36:41,987
Speaker 23: and we do need to continually look to improve each week,

1858
01:36:42,307 --> 01:36:44,947
Speaker 23: both on and off the board and transition and how

1859
01:36:45,027 --> 01:36:48,347
Speaker 23: we operate as a team, because yeah, you can feel

1860
01:36:48,387 --> 01:36:51,147
Speaker 23: like the season's long and it can get to this

1861
01:36:51,267 --> 01:36:54,387
Speaker 23: point where you're just hanging on in games, and of

1862
01:36:54,507 --> 01:36:57,507
Speaker 23: course that's necessary sometimes, but you rather want to be

1863
01:36:57,547 --> 01:37:00,907
Speaker 23: going into playoffs on the front foot and believing in

1864
01:37:01,747 --> 01:37:03,747
Speaker 23: everyone around you and what we're doing together.

1865
01:37:03,787 --> 01:37:06,027
Speaker 9: And I feel like this year that's time to come

1866
01:37:06,027 --> 01:37:06,987
Speaker 9: together really nicely.

1867
01:37:07,147 --> 01:37:09,907
Speaker 23: So again it's up to us to do that today

1868
01:37:09,907 --> 01:37:14,427
Speaker 23: against MacArthur because each weekend's a completely new challenge and

1869
01:37:14,507 --> 01:37:15,507
Speaker 23: you don't know what's going to happen.

1870
01:37:15,587 --> 01:37:18,947
Speaker 9: There's no guarantee. But if we stick with that kind.

1871
01:37:18,867 --> 01:37:22,587
Speaker 23: Of internal aspect of what we've been developing, then yeah,

1872
01:37:22,707 --> 01:37:24,947
Speaker 23: Phil have a lot of belief in the team and

1873
01:37:25,027 --> 01:37:25,707
Speaker 23: the guys around me.

1874
01:37:25,907 --> 01:37:27,347
Speaker 3: All right, and off the back of this game today,

1875
01:37:27,387 --> 01:37:29,347
Speaker 3: you'll then go into all whites mode. You and four

1876
01:37:29,387 --> 01:37:31,667
Speaker 3: of your awkwad FC teammates will link up with the

1877
01:37:31,747 --> 01:37:34,947
Speaker 3: team early in the new week for games against Finland

1878
01:37:34,987 --> 01:37:37,907
Speaker 3: and Chile at Eden Park next weekend. How exciting a

1879
01:37:37,987 --> 01:37:40,347
Speaker 3: prospect of those games With the World Cup now getting

1880
01:37:40,427 --> 01:37:40,987
Speaker 3: really close.

1881
01:37:41,587 --> 01:37:43,067
Speaker 9: Yeah, it feels real now, doesn't it.

1882
01:37:43,227 --> 01:37:43,427
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1883
01:37:43,667 --> 01:37:45,627
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it's exciting for everyone, for the whole

1884
01:37:45,667 --> 01:37:48,507
Speaker 23: community in Auckland and hopefully a few people from around

1885
01:37:48,547 --> 01:37:51,267
Speaker 23: New Zealand possibly coming to travel to watch the team play,

1886
01:37:51,347 --> 01:37:55,587
Speaker 23: because what an opportunity to see players who could potentially

1887
01:37:55,627 --> 01:37:57,387
Speaker 23: be playing on the world stage in just a couple

1888
01:37:57,427 --> 01:38:00,187
Speaker 23: of months. Great to have so many players from the

1889
01:38:00,227 --> 01:38:02,147
Speaker 23: team there as well from Auckland. That's going to be

1890
01:38:02,667 --> 01:38:04,667
Speaker 23: I think a really good reflection of the hard work

1891
01:38:04,747 --> 01:38:06,587
Speaker 23: that all of these boys have put on over the

1892
01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:09,507
Speaker 23: season and that's really exciting, Like to have these high

1893
01:38:09,547 --> 01:38:12,747
Speaker 23: quality games in New Zealand is something that doesn't really

1894
01:38:12,787 --> 01:38:15,107
Speaker 23: happen that often. So I'll just encourage you everyone to

1895
01:38:16,107 --> 01:38:18,347
Speaker 23: take that opportunity to come and watch and support and

1896
01:38:18,427 --> 01:38:19,387
Speaker 23: be a part of the journey.

1897
01:38:19,507 --> 01:38:21,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they will, Frennie, I'm sure they're will.

1898
01:38:21,307 --> 01:38:23,187
Speaker 3: Thanks for chatting to us. Mate on match Dave Francis

1899
01:38:23,267 --> 01:38:26,587
Speaker 3: devrees there out of Auckland FC. They take on McArthur

1900
01:38:26,667 --> 01:38:29,707
Speaker 3: this afternoon three o'clock kickoff Edgar Media Stadium in Auckland.

1901
01:38:29,867 --> 01:38:32,667
Speaker 3: Don't forget those All Whites matches are also in Auckland

1902
01:38:32,827 --> 01:38:36,107
Speaker 3: Eden Park on Friday against Finland. The following Monday, that's

1903
01:38:36,147 --> 01:38:39,427
Speaker 3: the thirtieth of March against Chile, the final two matches

1904
01:38:39,467 --> 01:38:41,867
Speaker 3: before the All Whites head off to the Football World

1905
01:38:41,947 --> 01:38:45,587
Speaker 3: Cup two twenty two. Speaking of which, Darren Baisley, the

1906
01:38:45,627 --> 01:38:48,387
Speaker 3: All Whites coach, named his squad for those matches. During

1907
01:38:48,427 --> 01:38:51,907
Speaker 3: the week. There was one debutante. His name is Lockey Bayless.

1908
01:38:52,187 --> 01:38:54,627
Speaker 3: He plays as football for the Newcastle Jets. He'll join

1909
01:38:54,707 --> 01:38:55,307
Speaker 3: us right after this.

1910
01:38:56,067 --> 01:38:59,987
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01:39:00,227 --> 01:39:04,507
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1912
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Speaker 1: builder News talks that'd be.

1913
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Speaker 3: Two twenty five. Sticking with football, All Whites coach Darren

1914
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Speaker 3: Baisley has named a squad for upcoming matches in Auckland

1915
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Speaker 3: against Finland and Chili.

1916
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Speaker 6: One.

1917
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Speaker 3: You face Newcastle midfielder Lachland Bayless, earning his first senior

1918
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Speaker 3: call up off the back of an impressive A League

1919
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Speaker 3: season with the Jets.

1920
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Speaker 13: And as he gets into a wrestle, the attack continues

1921
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Speaker 13: for the home side.

1922
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Speaker 18: In the very first minute, Bayless, he's.

1923
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Speaker 2: Going a suit to the track, Presant, take.

1924
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Speaker 13: Your seats and the Newcastle Jets.

1925
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Speaker 2: Again.

1926
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Speaker 3: Lachland Bayless is with us on Weekend Sport. You've made

1927
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Speaker 3: a terrific form in the A League mate, Did you

1928
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Speaker 3: feel like this opportunity might be coming or did it

1929
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Speaker 3: still come as a surprise when you got the call?

1930
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's definitely a surprise being my first time,

1931
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Speaker 10: so yeah, I was just a static when I got

1932
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Speaker 10: the phone call and yeah, really looking forward to getting

1933
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Speaker 10: into camp with the boys.

1934
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Speaker 3: It really has been an excellent season. Like you're not

1935
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Speaker 3: just for you, but for the Newcastle Jets as well.

1936
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Speaker 3: What have been the reasons behind your excellent form and

1937
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Speaker 3: the consistency of the Jets this a league season.

1938
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Speaker 10: Look, I mean we have a good, good group of

1939
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Speaker 10: boys and yeah, a lot of strong players and I

1940
01:40:21,267 --> 01:40:26,307
Speaker 10: think you know, with Millsy's new take on things in

1941
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Speaker 10: new sort of formulation, that it's just gelled really well

1942
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Speaker 10: and click with the boys straight away. And you know

1943
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Speaker 10: we've all responded pretty well because Mills is a great

1944
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Speaker 10: coach and yeah, it's been really good playing under him,

1945
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Speaker 10: and yeah, I think that change your coach just really

1946
01:40:44,107 --> 01:40:46,027
Speaker 10: has helped us go to the next level.

1947
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Speaker 3: I know it's always easier when you're winning games, but

1948
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Speaker 3: it seems like you guys are having a lot of

1949
01:40:50,627 --> 01:40:52,467
Speaker 3: fun as well. You're playing football with a smile on

1950
01:40:52,547 --> 01:40:55,787
Speaker 3: your face. You seem to enjoy one another's company. Everything

1951
01:40:55,827 --> 01:40:58,467
Speaker 3: you see on your social media feeds, for example, is

1952
01:40:59,067 --> 01:41:02,827
Speaker 3: full of positivity. Is this one of the more enjoyable

1953
01:41:03,187 --> 01:41:05,147
Speaker 3: football environments that you've been a part of?

1954
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Speaker 24: Yeah, I think definitely.

1955
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Speaker 10: It's always enjoyable and you know, your team players on

1956
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Speaker 10: the front foot and players attacking football, and it's not

1957
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Speaker 10: just enjoyable for us, it's enjoyable for the fans to

1958
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Speaker 10: watch too, and we've seen the number of fans increase

1959
01:41:19,387 --> 01:41:21,827
Speaker 10: come into our games, which has also been great to

1960
01:41:21,947 --> 01:41:25,307
Speaker 10: have that sort of support. And yeah, I've really enjoyed

1961
01:41:25,347 --> 01:41:26,067
Speaker 10: playing this season.

1962
01:41:26,387 --> 01:41:28,827
Speaker 3: Goal scoring has been a feature of your season as well.

1963
01:41:28,947 --> 01:41:32,507
Speaker 3: Five goals this season, and you had just one in

1964
01:41:32,627 --> 01:41:36,347
Speaker 3: your previous two A League seasons combined before this one,

1965
01:41:36,507 --> 01:41:38,547
Speaker 3: So was heading the back of the knit more often

1966
01:41:38,667 --> 01:41:41,107
Speaker 3: something you have specifically worked on.

1967
01:41:42,307 --> 01:41:44,987
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely, I think in my previous sort of seasons

1968
01:41:45,027 --> 01:41:48,947
Speaker 10: I've played a bit deeper, whereas I definitely feel most

1969
01:41:48,987 --> 01:41:51,707
Speaker 10: comfortable as an attacking midfielder, which is, you know where

1970
01:41:51,707 --> 01:41:54,307
Speaker 10: I've played a lot in my sort of younger career,

1971
01:41:54,947 --> 01:41:57,267
Speaker 10: and yeah, I mean been able to play there in

1972
01:41:57,347 --> 01:41:59,307
Speaker 10: the A League. I'm glad I've sort of been able

1973
01:41:59,347 --> 01:42:01,307
Speaker 10: to transfer, you know, what I did in my youth

1974
01:42:01,387 --> 01:42:04,467
Speaker 10: career to the A League level. And yeah, I definitely

1975
01:42:04,467 --> 01:42:06,227
Speaker 10: think it's a strong part of my game scoring go

1976
01:42:07,747 --> 01:42:09,627
Speaker 10: because yeah, not a lot of midfielders can do it,

1977
01:42:09,747 --> 01:42:12,587
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think it's definitely a point of difference

1978
01:42:12,627 --> 01:42:13,187
Speaker 10: for myself.

1979
01:42:13,667 --> 01:42:16,027
Speaker 3: How much confidence you reckon you'll take from the way

1980
01:42:16,067 --> 01:42:20,427
Speaker 3: you've been playing with Newcastle into the national team environment

1981
01:42:20,547 --> 01:42:22,907
Speaker 3: when you go in there for the first time early

1982
01:42:23,027 --> 01:42:23,467
Speaker 3: next week.

1983
01:42:24,427 --> 01:42:27,547
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think a lot of confidence. Yeah, the fact

1984
01:42:27,547 --> 01:42:31,427
Speaker 10: that you know, I've been performing well and yeah, you

1985
01:42:31,507 --> 01:42:33,787
Speaker 10: know Versing or a few of the feel the boys

1986
01:42:33,827 --> 01:42:36,267
Speaker 10: on the weekend that are in the team. It definitely

1987
01:42:37,267 --> 01:42:38,907
Speaker 10: helps to know that you can compete to that level.

1988
01:42:38,987 --> 01:42:42,347
Speaker 10: But yeah, I'm excited to just sort of see where

1989
01:42:42,387 --> 01:42:44,547
Speaker 10: I'm at, you know, compared to all the other boys

1990
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Speaker 10: in the team, especially the ones overseas, and yeah, just

1991
01:42:47,387 --> 01:42:50,187
Speaker 10: just give it a good crack and yeah, hopefully get

1992
01:42:50,227 --> 01:42:50,627
Speaker 10: some minutes.

1993
01:42:50,867 --> 01:42:53,467
Speaker 3: You were born in Australia, but you've committed to New

1994
01:42:53,587 --> 01:42:56,787
Speaker 3: Zealand internationally. What was behind that decision.

1995
01:42:58,067 --> 01:43:01,187
Speaker 10: Yeah, look, I think it was kind of a you know,

1996
01:43:01,307 --> 01:43:05,907
Speaker 10: easy decision for me personally, especially with my strong family

1997
01:43:05,947 --> 01:43:10,347
Speaker 10: connection into New Zealand, and yeah, with the opportunities you know,

1998
01:43:10,387 --> 01:43:12,387
Speaker 10: they provided me at the Olympics, so I think it

1999
01:43:12,507 --> 01:43:13,467
Speaker 10: was sort of a no brainer.

2000
01:43:15,067 --> 01:43:17,147
Speaker 24: And yeah, like I'm really.

2001
01:43:16,987 --> 01:43:19,827
Speaker 10: Looking forward to hopefully continue to represent them for a

2002
01:43:19,907 --> 01:43:21,987
Speaker 10: very long time and yeah, be a part of that setup.

2003
01:43:22,107 --> 01:43:23,947
Speaker 24: So yeah, I'm very very grateful.

2004
01:43:24,227 --> 01:43:27,227
Speaker 3: Just confirm for us, Locky the eligibility studies. You become

2005
01:43:27,507 --> 01:43:29,987
Speaker 3: or are eligible for New Zealand through your dad.

2006
01:43:29,947 --> 01:43:30,387
Speaker 6: Is that right?

2007
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Speaker 24: Yeah, Yeah, that's correct.

2008
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Speaker 10: So yeah, only I got my passport kind of pretty late,

2009
01:43:36,387 --> 01:43:40,427
Speaker 10: probably only about yeah, four years ago now, And yeah,

2010
01:43:40,427 --> 01:43:42,227
Speaker 10: I didn't really realize I could be a part of

2011
01:43:42,267 --> 01:43:46,107
Speaker 10: the setup. Because We've been born in Australia. I thought

2012
01:43:46,147 --> 01:43:49,547
Speaker 10: I was sort of you know, bound to that, and yeah,

2013
01:43:49,787 --> 01:43:52,427
Speaker 10: very very grateful with that. It's not the case and

2014
01:43:53,067 --> 01:43:55,427
Speaker 10: I'm able to represent New Zealand.

2015
01:43:55,587 --> 01:43:57,867
Speaker 3: Do you still feel a connection to New Zealand even

2016
01:43:57,867 --> 01:44:00,267
Speaker 3: though you're born in Australia have lived pretty much your

2017
01:44:00,427 --> 01:44:01,107
Speaker 3: entire life there.

2018
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a very sort of different connection

2019
01:44:04,667 --> 01:44:07,147
Speaker 10: to you know what a lot of the other boys

2020
01:44:07,187 --> 01:44:10,227
Speaker 10: would have would have, you know, being born there and

2021
01:44:10,707 --> 01:44:12,587
Speaker 10: you know growing up and probably most of their schooling

2022
01:44:12,707 --> 01:44:17,347
Speaker 10: being done there, you know. With my father especially passing now,

2023
01:44:17,587 --> 01:44:21,347
Speaker 10: I think it's a really special thing for me personally

2024
01:44:21,467 --> 01:44:24,787
Speaker 10: that I'm able to you know play and represent him

2025
01:44:25,747 --> 01:44:29,827
Speaker 10: in that memory. And yeah, to have you know, all

2026
01:44:29,867 --> 01:44:33,347
Speaker 10: my New Zealand family, you know, supporting me with that

2027
01:44:33,427 --> 01:44:35,267
Speaker 10: decision as well, definitely definitely helps.

2028
01:44:35,347 --> 01:44:37,067
Speaker 3: Of course, you played for New Zealand at the last

2029
01:44:37,147 --> 01:44:39,827
Speaker 3: Olympic Games in Paris a couple of years ago. Several

2030
01:44:39,867 --> 01:44:43,307
Speaker 3: players from that team are in this current all white squad.

2031
01:44:43,467 --> 01:44:46,467
Speaker 3: How helpful you reckon that'll be with your integration into

2032
01:44:46,547 --> 01:44:47,947
Speaker 3: a new team environment.

2033
01:44:49,347 --> 01:44:52,267
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it will help massively. You know, when

2034
01:44:52,347 --> 01:44:55,267
Speaker 10: I when I first got into that Olympics camp, I

2035
01:44:55,307 --> 01:44:58,187
Speaker 10: knew absolutely no one, so it was a real step

2036
01:44:58,227 --> 01:45:00,787
Speaker 10: out of the comfort zone, the comfort zone, and yeah,

2037
01:45:00,827 --> 01:45:03,107
Speaker 10: I could be more thankful for the way I was

2038
01:45:03,147 --> 01:45:05,667
Speaker 10: welcomed in and yeah, I felt at home straight away.

2039
01:45:05,787 --> 01:45:08,867
Speaker 10: So yeah, I really assume it'll be sort of the same,

2040
01:45:08,987 --> 01:45:11,747
Speaker 10: and yeah, it'll be easier knowing that I don't.

2041
01:45:11,587 --> 01:45:14,987
Speaker 24: Know a few other players, So yeah, I'm really looking

2042
01:45:15,027 --> 01:45:15,427
Speaker 24: forward to it.

2043
01:45:15,547 --> 01:45:17,627
Speaker 3: And you mentioned it before as well. Last weekend your

2044
01:45:17,707 --> 01:45:20,747
Speaker 3: Newcastle Jets played against Auckland FC. There are five guys

2045
01:45:20,827 --> 01:45:23,187
Speaker 3: from that Auckland f C side and this all whites.

2046
01:45:23,267 --> 01:45:24,707
Speaker 3: Quite how's that dynamic going to be?

2047
01:45:25,747 --> 01:45:29,947
Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely a very interesting dynamic, especially you know, two

2048
01:45:30,027 --> 01:45:33,427
Speaker 10: teams at the top of the table. So yeah, it'd

2049
01:45:33,427 --> 01:45:35,507
Speaker 10: be good to see. You know, how those boys train

2050
01:45:35,707 --> 01:45:39,547
Speaker 10: compared to compared to our level. And yeah, I'm just

2051
01:45:39,907 --> 01:45:43,067
Speaker 10: just looking forward to to get there and yeah, meeting

2052
01:45:43,147 --> 01:45:43,427
Speaker 10: them more.

2053
01:45:43,947 --> 01:45:46,707
Speaker 3: Have you thought about what you want to achieve? I mean,

2054
01:45:46,907 --> 01:45:48,987
Speaker 3: obviously you want to play some minutes in these games

2055
01:45:48,987 --> 01:45:51,347
Speaker 3: against Finland and Chile, but have you have you sort

2056
01:45:51,347 --> 01:45:54,067
Speaker 3: of thought about what you would like to achieve during

2057
01:45:54,147 --> 01:45:55,867
Speaker 3: the week or so that you're room with the All

2058
01:45:55,867 --> 01:45:56,747
Speaker 3: Whites for the first time.

2059
01:45:58,107 --> 01:46:00,547
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I'm just sort of going to approach

2060
01:46:00,587 --> 01:46:03,227
Speaker 10: it as you know, I do monus training sessions in games.

2061
01:46:03,667 --> 01:46:06,067
Speaker 10: I'm not going to try do anything different or you know,

2062
01:46:06,387 --> 01:46:09,187
Speaker 10: outside of what I'm capable of doing. I think it's

2063
01:46:09,227 --> 01:46:12,827
Speaker 10: important just to you know, sort of relax and not

2064
01:46:12,947 --> 01:46:15,947
Speaker 10: too not put too much pressure on myself and yeah,

2065
01:46:16,067 --> 01:46:19,667
Speaker 10: just just enjoy the opportunity and you know the minutes

2066
01:46:19,707 --> 01:46:24,547
Speaker 10: that I hopefully get. So yeah, I'm just astatic to

2067
01:46:24,587 --> 01:46:25,067
Speaker 10: be a part of it.

2068
01:46:25,267 --> 01:46:27,787
Speaker 3: And they often say that football is about timing, and

2069
01:46:27,867 --> 01:46:31,587
Speaker 3: you've timed your run brilliantly. Here you're in the final

2070
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:34,227
Speaker 3: squad before Darren Baisley will name his squad for the

2071
01:46:34,307 --> 01:46:37,427
Speaker 3: World Cup, which is now just three months away. Now

2072
01:46:37,467 --> 01:46:40,187
Speaker 3: that you're in the squad, how big a goal has

2073
01:46:40,547 --> 01:46:43,827
Speaker 3: the World Cup and participation there become for you.

2074
01:46:45,227 --> 01:46:48,187
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean a World Cup's definitely every kid's sort

2075
01:46:48,187 --> 01:46:51,227
Speaker 10: of dream. But whether it happens, you know, this year

2076
01:46:51,387 --> 01:46:54,027
Speaker 10: or in the future, I'm just sort of focused on

2077
01:46:54,107 --> 01:46:56,547
Speaker 10: what I'm doing at the moment because that'll give me

2078
01:46:56,627 --> 01:47:00,667
Speaker 10: the best opportunity to achieve that. And yeah, I think

2079
01:47:00,707 --> 01:47:03,787
Speaker 10: with timing as well. I had pretty good timing for

2080
01:47:04,107 --> 01:47:08,987
Speaker 10: my Olympics run, named as a traveling reserve and ended

2081
01:47:09,067 --> 01:47:12,067
Speaker 10: up playing some good minutes throughout that tournament. So yeah,

2082
01:47:12,267 --> 01:47:15,107
Speaker 10: I definitely think timing and you know, luck plays a

2083
01:47:15,147 --> 01:47:17,987
Speaker 10: big part and a lot of it, and just yeah,

2084
01:47:18,107 --> 01:47:20,627
Speaker 10: thankful that the timing sort of been right for me

2085
01:47:20,747 --> 01:47:21,387
Speaker 10: at the moment, and.

2086
01:47:21,467 --> 01:47:23,707
Speaker 3: Just act to your club stuff to finish. Defeat to

2087
01:47:23,747 --> 01:47:26,707
Speaker 3: a Walkland FC last weekend brought them to within one

2088
01:47:26,787 --> 01:47:28,387
Speaker 3: point of view at the top of the table. You've

2089
01:47:28,387 --> 01:47:31,907
Speaker 3: both got five games left and the regular season, you

2090
01:47:31,987 --> 01:47:34,827
Speaker 3: reckon you can still make a run at their premiers played.

2091
01:47:35,907 --> 01:47:36,467
Speaker 24: Oh for sure.

2092
01:47:37,107 --> 01:47:40,507
Speaker 10: I think we're still confident in what we do and

2093
01:47:40,547 --> 01:47:43,067
Speaker 10: we're going to stick to our processes. Although we had

2094
01:47:43,147 --> 01:47:46,387
Speaker 10: you know, one hiccup. It's yeah, it's a long season

2095
01:47:46,427 --> 01:47:48,187
Speaker 10: and there's still you know, six games to go, so

2096
01:47:48,867 --> 01:47:52,667
Speaker 10: six more opportunities to pick up points, which yeah, we're

2097
01:47:52,707 --> 01:47:55,107
Speaker 10: really looking forward to. And we've worked on a few

2098
01:47:55,147 --> 01:47:58,067
Speaker 10: more things that we needed it tidy up from last week.

2099
01:47:58,147 --> 01:48:02,027
Speaker 10: And yeah it's another big game, you know, against third

2100
01:48:02,067 --> 01:48:06,227
Speaker 10: place Sydney FC, So yeah, each games as important as

2101
01:48:06,227 --> 01:48:09,067
Speaker 10: the as the last. Yeah, when it gets to this

2102
01:48:09,427 --> 01:48:11,987
Speaker 10: point of the season. So yeah, it's just exciting. And

2103
01:48:12,987 --> 01:48:15,587
Speaker 10: the thought to be playing finals football for the first

2104
01:48:15,627 --> 01:48:17,707
Speaker 10: time in my career is also pretty exciting.

2105
01:48:17,827 --> 01:48:19,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's an exciting time for you, for club

2106
01:48:20,107 --> 01:48:23,907
Speaker 3: and for country as well. Lockie, congrats on your inclusion

2107
01:48:23,947 --> 01:48:25,987
Speaker 3: in this all white squad. All the best against Sydney

2108
01:48:26,027 --> 01:48:28,347
Speaker 3: of C tomorrow in your next day league game. Look

2109
01:48:28,387 --> 01:48:30,507
Speaker 3: forward to seeing you in Auckland next week and seeing

2110
01:48:30,547 --> 01:48:32,907
Speaker 3: how you go in an all white shit. Really appreciate

2111
01:48:32,947 --> 01:48:34,067
Speaker 3: you taking the time for a chat.

2112
01:48:34,787 --> 01:48:36,827
Speaker 24: No worries, Piney, thank you very much, No, thank you for.

2113
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Speaker 3: Joining us, Locky Locke Baylor's brand new all white vikises

2114
01:48:40,187 --> 01:48:42,667
Speaker 3: on text Jason, I was thrilled to hear Lockey Bayler's

2115
01:48:42,707 --> 01:48:44,947
Speaker 3: eligible or is eligible to play for the Your Whites

2116
01:48:44,987 --> 01:48:48,827
Speaker 3: has been super impressed, impressive this year for Newcastle and

2117
01:48:49,027 --> 01:48:51,147
Speaker 3: I had no idea he had Kiwi Roots and how

2118
01:48:51,187 --> 01:48:53,547
Speaker 3: good are the Phoenix women going fingers crossed? They get

2119
01:48:53,547 --> 01:48:56,107
Speaker 3: all the lollies this season, playing some attractive football and

2120
01:48:56,227 --> 01:48:59,227
Speaker 3: really looking like they're enjoying themselves. Well done, BF Priestsman

2121
01:48:59,587 --> 01:49:02,427
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Yes, speaks all right, I'm gonna give you.

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Speaker 2: So short.

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Speaker 3: Now bear in mind that Andy has come up with these,

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Speaker 3: rugby league. He's called it the Nightmare of Newcastle option.

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Speaker 3: It's the Warrior is against Newcastle this afternoon, lecqua hella

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The Evans option is a super rugby option. The can

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Speaker 14: A toss up between one until I'm start of hoping

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Speaker 3: Not today, unfortunately, So I'll go with the Reds. See

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Speaker 3: up seventeen away from three o'clock. Key We Olympian Jason

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Speaker 3: Saunders as part of the newly named Laroche Posse racing

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Speaker 3: team the French Challenge, building serious momentum towards the thirty

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Speaker 3: eighth America's Cup next year, boasting Olympic gold medals, medalists

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Speaker 3: they look to close the gap on the established Cup

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Speaker 3: heavyweights with a new campaign and your identity and unfinished

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Speaker 3: to talk through the road to twenty twenty seven. Unfinished business.

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Speaker 3: Is that a good way of explaining where you're thinking?

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01:54:06,427 --> 01:54:06,947
Speaker 3: Is that right now?

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Speaker 6: Jas? Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Certainly. I mean we were pretty disappointed.

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01:54:12,307 --> 01:54:15,267
Speaker 25: The way we sort of finished the last campaign without

2218
01:54:15,507 --> 01:54:18,067
Speaker 25: the potential we thought we had there, so it was

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01:54:18,507 --> 01:54:21,227
Speaker 25: frustrating for the team to not be able to win

2220
01:54:21,267 --> 01:54:24,267
Speaker 25: more races even though we knew we were really.

2221
01:54:24,347 --> 01:54:26,827
Speaker 18: We could have. We had a good boat. We just

2222
01:54:26,987 --> 01:54:28,667
Speaker 18: it just ran out of time unfortunately.

2223
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Speaker 25: So it's great to be starting on a new foot

2224
01:54:30,987 --> 01:54:34,707
Speaker 25: again with some incredible people were part of the team,

2225
01:54:34,827 --> 01:54:37,107
Speaker 25: some that were part of the team last time, but

2226
01:54:37,267 --> 01:54:39,667
Speaker 25: also some some fresh signings, which is nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk about that in just a moment,

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01:54:41,307 --> 01:54:44,147
Speaker 3: but how much confidence and motivation do you take from

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01:54:44,267 --> 01:54:48,267
Speaker 3: knowing you were starting to get really competitive towards the

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01:54:48,427 --> 01:54:49,427
Speaker 3: end of the last campaign.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, we do, and we obviously I've done a

2232
01:54:52,867 --> 01:54:55,667
Speaker 25: lot of work since then and realizing where we were

2233
01:54:56,347 --> 01:54:59,787
Speaker 25: weak compared to some of the other teams, and we've

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01:54:59,827 --> 01:55:02,667
Speaker 25: actually think we've improved a lot. So even though we're

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01:55:02,667 --> 01:55:05,267
Speaker 25: officially only starting sort of now's there have been things

2236
01:55:05,347 --> 01:55:07,867
Speaker 25: going in the background for the fast past few months,

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Speaker 25: and I certainly felt like it will be in a

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01:55:09,667 --> 01:55:13,027
Speaker 25: much better place for the next campaign. I mean, it's

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Speaker 25: just such an incredibly logistical challenge to have, you know,

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Speaker 25: one hundred and fifty people or more. You know, our

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Speaker 25: team is one of the smallest ones, but that many

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01:55:22,387 --> 01:55:25,187
Speaker 25: people involved to get them more coordinated to be in

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Speaker 25: performing on the day.

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Speaker 18: So I think that experience is going to help the

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01:55:28,827 --> 01:55:29,227
Speaker 18: whole team.

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Speaker 3: And what's such a big operation like that chase with

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01:55:31,787 --> 01:55:34,387
Speaker 3: so many different moving parts to all of this and

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01:55:34,507 --> 01:55:37,547
Speaker 3: so many areas where you might get improvements, you know,

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01:55:37,867 --> 01:55:41,787
Speaker 3: significant or otherwise, where do you place your focus in

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Speaker 3: order to get the biggest gains on the water?

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Speaker 25: It's I mean, obviously everyone breaking down into their own areas,

2252
01:55:49,467 --> 01:55:51,267
Speaker 25: and I think what the key is is obviously just

2253
01:55:51,347 --> 01:55:54,027
Speaker 25: to be focusing and have the ability within your in

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01:55:54,107 --> 01:55:56,987
Speaker 25: the workspace to focus on your own area. So I'm

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Speaker 25: a saylor, I'm a trimmer on the boat, and so

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Speaker 25: for me just to be able to focus on that

2257
01:56:01,947 --> 01:56:03,787
Speaker 25: timming role would be a bit of a step up

2258
01:56:04,587 --> 01:56:06,747
Speaker 25: because everyone's sort of had to have double hats on

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01:56:06,867 --> 01:56:10,227
Speaker 25: it at certain points during the last campaign. So if

2260
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Speaker 25: each of us are able to focus on what we're

2261
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Speaker 25: being hired to do and and really get it down

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Speaker 25: to the performance side of it, and then I think

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01:56:16,027 --> 01:56:18,787
Speaker 25: then we'll be in a great shape.

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Speaker 3: The big headline from the announcement during the week was

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Speaker 3: the arrival of a couple of new sailors and pretty

2266
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Speaker 3: highly credentialed ones Olympic gold medalists Diego Botine and Florie

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Speaker 3: and Tritel. How big a statement signing is that for

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Speaker 3: your campaign?

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Speaker 25: Well, I mean if they want to sign for us,

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Speaker 25: that means that they probably believe in the potential of

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01:56:39,227 --> 01:56:43,787
Speaker 25: the team as well. Obviously they you know, they're proven winners,

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01:56:43,827 --> 01:56:46,827
Speaker 25: are excellent sailors. The last few years have been phenomenal

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Speaker 25: for them, So we're really lucky to have them on board.

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Speaker 25: And I think it, like I said, it just shows

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01:56:51,787 --> 01:56:54,307
Speaker 25: that they, you know, they believe in the seriousness of

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Speaker 25: our challenge. And we wouldn't be hiring people like that

2277
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Speaker 25: if we if we didn't think we had the ability

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Speaker 25: to provide a boat and actually be competitive behind it.

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Speaker 25: So they are a great investment for the team, and

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Speaker 25: we've already started working with them and we'll continue looking

2281
01:57:09,427 --> 01:57:11,387
Speaker 25: forward to working with them the next year.

2282
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Speaker 3: When you sailors come in to an environment that you're

2283
01:57:15,067 --> 01:57:16,867
Speaker 3: already a part of, what are the things that you

2284
01:57:17,027 --> 01:57:20,827
Speaker 3: look for to see if they'll fit in culturally?

2285
01:57:22,467 --> 01:57:25,547
Speaker 25: That's right, that's a good point. I mean, they have

2286
01:57:25,667 --> 01:57:27,947
Speaker 25: to be they have to be easy to get on

2287
01:57:28,147 --> 01:57:32,347
Speaker 25: with in terms of you know, also sharing that same vision.

2288
01:57:32,347 --> 01:57:34,307
Speaker 25: I think that's probably one of the things that we're

2289
01:57:34,307 --> 01:57:37,707
Speaker 25: really trying to get a lot of light minded people

2290
01:57:37,747 --> 01:57:39,747
Speaker 25: where we're trying to share a vision of you know,

2291
01:57:39,827 --> 01:57:43,987
Speaker 25: put the egos aside. We have to be we have

2292
01:57:44,107 --> 01:57:45,907
Speaker 25: to be improving every day and that means that you

2293
01:57:45,987 --> 01:57:49,027
Speaker 25: have to be very good at receiving feedback, and so

2294
01:57:49,107 --> 01:57:51,707
Speaker 25: that's a big part of it. And just and just

2295
01:57:51,827 --> 01:57:54,467
Speaker 25: knowing that you know, we're coming, We're going to be

2296
01:57:54,507 --> 01:57:56,787
Speaker 25: a position last time, but the reality is all the

2297
01:57:56,867 --> 01:57:58,667
Speaker 25: teams are going to be moving on from where they

2298
01:57:58,707 --> 01:58:00,667
Speaker 25: were last time. There's so much work to do, so

2299
01:58:00,707 --> 01:58:02,747
Speaker 25: you've got to have a good balance of that work

2300
01:58:02,827 --> 01:58:06,067
Speaker 25: ethic and and be you know, be the right people

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01:58:06,147 --> 01:58:08,347
Speaker 25: to to fit around because you're spending so much time

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Speaker 25: with these with these people in the base and so

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01:58:11,347 --> 01:58:12,947
Speaker 25: if we you know, we have to obviously make sure

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01:58:12,987 --> 01:58:15,627
Speaker 25: that personality is going to fit and also trust that

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Speaker 25: the coaches and everyone around us is going to provide

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01:58:18,507 --> 01:58:20,547
Speaker 25: that environment where we will be able to continue to gel.

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Speaker 3: That's one of the established sailors in the team. Do

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01:58:24,107 --> 01:58:27,387
Speaker 3: you feel a greater sense of responsibility to help integrate

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01:58:27,467 --> 01:58:28,107
Speaker 3: the newer guys.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I mean I've been lucky enough to sail with this

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01:58:30,747 --> 01:58:32,627
Speaker 25: team for a few years now for sure, and with

2313
01:58:32,787 --> 01:58:36,267
Speaker 25: Contan especially, and so I feel like I have a

2314
01:58:36,307 --> 01:58:38,547
Speaker 25: good understanding of how the team works and some of

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01:58:38,587 --> 01:58:42,147
Speaker 25: the key people involved, and and just bringing that experience

2316
01:58:42,707 --> 01:58:45,067
Speaker 25: as well as Content bringing his experience in the last Cup,

2317
01:58:45,147 --> 01:58:49,347
Speaker 25: it certainly helps us and hoping that you know, they

2318
01:58:49,347 --> 01:58:51,587
Speaker 25: will also bring things are going to help from with

2319
01:58:51,667 --> 01:58:54,227
Speaker 25: different experiences. And we're also lucky enough to have signed

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Speaker 25: Lee McMillan, who's coming from the from the British campaign,

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01:58:59,987 --> 01:59:02,147
Speaker 25: So that's a huge signing for us because he was,

2322
01:59:02,347 --> 01:59:05,267
Speaker 25: you know, in the Louis Vuitton one, the Louis Tongue Cup,

2323
01:59:05,347 --> 01:59:07,947
Speaker 25: in the American st Cup final, the last campaign. It's

2324
01:59:07,987 --> 01:59:11,827
Speaker 25: got so much experience from four America's Cups now, so

2325
01:59:12,387 --> 01:59:13,867
Speaker 25: you know, people like him are going to be We're

2326
01:59:13,867 --> 01:59:15,907
Speaker 25: going to be leaning on them as well to provide

2327
01:59:15,987 --> 01:59:18,627
Speaker 25: us with the right advice so we can keep progressing.

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01:59:18,947 --> 01:59:21,307
Speaker 3: So when you look around this team now, jas, do

2329
01:59:21,427 --> 01:59:24,587
Speaker 3: you feel like you have the ingredients to challenge the

2330
01:59:24,747 --> 01:59:27,867
Speaker 3: traditional powerhouses of America's Cup sailing.

2331
01:59:28,507 --> 01:59:31,907
Speaker 25: Yeah, we certainly will be pushing it hard to beat

2332
01:59:31,947 --> 01:59:34,467
Speaker 25: race win races against them, and I think we've got

2333
01:59:34,507 --> 01:59:36,347
Speaker 25: the We've got all the tools there to do it.

2334
01:59:36,507 --> 01:59:39,027
Speaker 25: So it's not going to be easy, Like I said,

2335
01:59:39,067 --> 01:59:41,027
Speaker 25: like I know how hard those guys have been working

2336
01:59:41,107 --> 01:59:43,907
Speaker 25: since the last Cup and it's up to us now

2337
01:59:43,987 --> 01:59:46,507
Speaker 25: to close the gap. I think we've got the ability

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Speaker 25: to do it and we've got the people involved to

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01:59:48,547 --> 01:59:50,867
Speaker 25: do it now. So you know, that's what we that's

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01:59:50,867 --> 01:59:52,307
Speaker 25: all we can really ask for us to have the

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01:59:52,387 --> 01:59:54,787
Speaker 25: cards in our own hands and if we if we

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01:59:54,827 --> 01:59:57,187
Speaker 25: don't win races, and then it's hopefully going to be

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01:59:57,227 --> 01:59:59,587
Speaker 25: because it's our fault rather than the fact of missing

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01:59:59,667 --> 02:00:01,627
Speaker 25: time or or resources.

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Speaker 3: No French team has ever reached the Looverton Cup final.

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Speaker 3: Does that feel like a realistic target?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, we're trying to.

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02:00:09,307 --> 02:00:11,947
Speaker 25: I mean we've sort of stepped short of giving ourselves

2349
02:00:11,987 --> 02:00:13,867
Speaker 25: okay you have to finish here or here at the moment.

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Speaker 25: But you know, I think we shared the same vision

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Speaker 25: that absolutely we want to be we need to be

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Speaker 25: winning multiple races and and that certainly would be a

2353
02:00:22,067 --> 02:00:25,827
Speaker 25: great goal. You know, with our new sponsor, Laosi, they

2354
02:00:26,987 --> 02:00:29,027
Speaker 25: are very competitive. We had some great meetings with them

2355
02:00:29,027 --> 02:00:31,467
Speaker 25: as well, and you know that's signing with us because

2356
02:00:31,467 --> 02:00:33,147
Speaker 25: they want to have results as well, which is what

2357
02:00:33,387 --> 02:00:35,587
Speaker 25: you know, which is what you'd expect. So I think

2358
02:00:36,387 --> 02:00:39,827
Speaker 25: we'll certainly be aiming pretty high and we'll you know,

2359
02:00:40,107 --> 02:00:41,867
Speaker 25: we'll get The great thing is we're going to get

2360
02:00:41,907 --> 02:00:43,507
Speaker 25: some challenges early in the in the piece. You know,

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02:00:43,587 --> 02:00:45,627
Speaker 25: there's some AC forty events coming out, which is going

2362
02:00:45,707 --> 02:00:47,587
Speaker 25: to throw us in the deep in we're probably a

2363
02:00:47,667 --> 02:00:50,387
Speaker 25: little less experience on those boats compared this to the

2364
02:00:50,427 --> 02:00:53,307
Speaker 25: others with our new signings coming in, but looking forward

2365
02:00:53,347 --> 02:00:54,307
Speaker 25: to that challenge as well.

2366
02:00:54,547 --> 02:00:58,227
Speaker 3: And the under the Regatta rules, there are limited sailing

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Speaker 3: days available in preparation.

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Speaker 20: Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: There is, so there are.

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02:01:03,027 --> 02:01:05,187
Speaker 25: We are limited in the amount of standing days we

2372
02:01:05,227 --> 02:01:08,987
Speaker 25: can do in multiple in the multiple boats actually, so

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02:01:09,107 --> 02:01:11,507
Speaker 25: there's there's a limit. I think it's around forty five

2374
02:01:11,627 --> 02:01:14,907
Speaker 25: days on the big boat per year. And there's a

2375
02:01:14,987 --> 02:01:17,707
Speaker 25: limit as well if you were sailing two of the

2376
02:01:17,787 --> 02:01:20,187
Speaker 25: smaller AC forty boats, you are limited in amount of

2377
02:01:20,227 --> 02:01:22,907
Speaker 25: sailing days you can do. And I think that means

2378
02:01:22,947 --> 02:01:25,467
Speaker 25: that you have to be super efficient with your sailing

2379
02:01:25,507 --> 02:01:27,907
Speaker 25: you're doing and have the ability to probably just saw

2380
02:01:28,067 --> 02:01:31,507
Speaker 25: maybe some longer days because of the days accounting, not

2381
02:01:31,587 --> 02:01:33,827
Speaker 25: the hours. So you know, we saw the Qui's going

2382
02:01:33,867 --> 02:01:36,427
Speaker 25: out a couple of days ago, you know, seven hours

2383
02:01:36,467 --> 02:01:39,107
Speaker 25: on the water, and that's that's probably unheard of for

2384
02:01:39,187 --> 02:01:42,507
Speaker 25: America's Cup with these types of boats, just with how

2385
02:01:43,267 --> 02:01:45,147
Speaker 25: how hard it is on the gear and in the

2386
02:01:45,227 --> 02:01:48,147
Speaker 25: long days. So I think that that's sort of showing

2387
02:01:48,227 --> 02:01:51,067
Speaker 25: us that seven hours can be done and that may

2388
02:01:51,187 --> 02:01:53,067
Speaker 25: have to be done some time and time and for

2389
02:01:53,147 --> 02:01:54,387
Speaker 25: conditions were great.

2390
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Speaker 3: So now that you've got the team confirmed and are

2391
02:01:57,387 --> 02:02:00,107
Speaker 3: now looking ahead with some solidity in that regard, do

2392
02:02:00,147 --> 02:02:02,067
Speaker 3: you reckon you'll get the feeling chase at some stage

2393
02:02:02,427 --> 02:02:04,587
Speaker 3: in the next little while that you are actually going

2394
02:02:04,667 --> 02:02:07,507
Speaker 3: to be a contender for the America's Cup next year.

2395
02:02:09,467 --> 02:02:09,867
Speaker 18: Yeah, I hope.

2396
02:02:09,907 --> 02:02:09,947
Speaker 9: So.

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02:02:10,067 --> 02:02:11,427
Speaker 25: I mean, I already feel like we're in a better

2398
02:02:11,467 --> 02:02:13,107
Speaker 25: place and there's no doubt about it. And the feeling

2399
02:02:13,147 --> 02:02:15,467
Speaker 25: of the team is really positive, a lot of energy

2400
02:02:16,547 --> 02:02:19,427
Speaker 25: and just a lot of enthusiasm, you know, because we

2401
02:02:19,587 --> 02:02:22,867
Speaker 25: were addressing our short falls from the last campaign, and

2402
02:02:22,987 --> 02:02:24,867
Speaker 25: even though we are signing some new people, we also

2403
02:02:25,147 --> 02:02:27,387
Speaker 25: have retained some of the people and the key roles

2404
02:02:27,427 --> 02:02:30,427
Speaker 25: that will enable us that continuity that let the teams

2405
02:02:30,467 --> 02:02:32,627
Speaker 25: need and that's what the French team has never really

2406
02:02:32,747 --> 02:02:36,387
Speaker 25: ever had, is a real continuity between two campaigns. And

2407
02:02:37,347 --> 02:02:39,707
Speaker 25: you've just seen with them, you know, with these boats,

2408
02:02:39,747 --> 02:02:42,867
Speaker 25: how technical they are. You really do have to go

2409
02:02:42,947 --> 02:02:46,147
Speaker 25: through a couple of cycles to be competitive and no

2410
02:02:46,267 --> 02:02:48,507
Speaker 25: one has managed to come out in the woodwork and

2411
02:02:48,627 --> 02:02:51,427
Speaker 25: just and just fire a competitive campaign. So yeah, we

2412
02:02:51,587 --> 02:02:54,227
Speaker 25: feel really good about things at the moment. There'll be

2413
02:02:54,267 --> 02:02:57,427
Speaker 25: plenty of challenges along the way. It's no doubt that's

2414
02:02:57,427 --> 02:02:59,107
Speaker 25: what the American beauty of the America's Cup and it's

2415
02:02:59,107 --> 02:03:02,147
Speaker 25: a long road, but we're really we're looking absolutely looking

2416
02:03:02,147 --> 02:03:02,467
Speaker 25: forward to it.

2417
02:03:02,587 --> 02:03:04,267
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing how it goes for

2418
02:03:04,387 --> 02:03:07,107
Speaker 3: you as well. Jays, all the best as you continue

2419
02:03:07,147 --> 02:03:11,067
Speaker 3: your preparation for the America's Cup regatta next year. Really

2420
02:03:11,107 --> 02:03:12,267
Speaker 3: appreciate you taking the time for.

2421
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Speaker 18: A chat to us problems.

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02:03:13,547 --> 02:03:15,907
Speaker 3: Thanks for matte No, thank you, Jase Jason Saunders there

2423
02:03:15,907 --> 02:03:18,427
Speaker 3: out of the French team challenging for the America's Cup,

2424
02:03:18,467 --> 02:03:21,627
Speaker 3: the thirty eighth America's Cup next year. It's seven and

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Speaker 3: a half to three News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 1: The biggest names and sport are here Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Jason Vine, News TALKSBB.

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Speaker 3: Coming up four and a half away from three. That's

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Speaker 3: pretty much us for today on Weekend Sport. Just to

2430
02:03:34,787 --> 02:03:38,467
Speaker 3: quick look ahead to tomorrow's show. We may have a

2431
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Speaker 3: decision around the future of the T twenty game in

2432
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Speaker 3: this country. I highly doubt it, but well we can

2433
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Speaker 3: only hope, can't we Even if we don't. I just

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Speaker 3: want to talk about Big Bash tomorrow. Is a new

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Speaker 3: Seal one team of the Big Bash, even an option

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Speaker 3: because if it were to happen, what would that mean

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Speaker 3: for the rest of the ecosystem? And whatever happens with

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Speaker 3: the Warriors later on today we'll cover that off too.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. Thanks Andy McDonald for producing what's our

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Speaker 3: exit song today? Mate?

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Speaker 19: was possible.

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Speaker 3: No neither did I good choice though, mate. Thanks for

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