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Speaker 2: News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It's been thirty five years since Aubrond rock band Push

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Speaker 3: Push hit the top of the charts with the iconic tripping.

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Speaker 3: The band's now back together and hitting the road this

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Speaker 3: month to celebrate, and they've got a brand new EP

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Speaker 3: on the way to boot. How Good, frontman, lyricist and

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Speaker 3: all round national treasure Mikey Havak joins us now, Mikey Good, afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you, thank you very much. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: having me too on this auspicious day, on the release

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Speaker 2: day of our brand new ep Ooh good.

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Speaker 4: We'll get to that soon. Now, I just want to

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Speaker 4: take you back to the you know when Push Push, Well,

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Speaker 4: when I first saw Push Push, it was so different

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Speaker 4: from anything else happening in New Zealand. The confidence that

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Speaker 4: you guys bought who everything you did was like, it's

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Speaker 4: hard for people to understand how different that was from

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Speaker 4: what was going on there. So where did that confidence

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Speaker 4: come from for you guys to just just be so

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Speaker 4: different than the way New Zealanders were behaving at the time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm I'm not quite sure.

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Speaker 5: I think about that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I think about it because because it was so different,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time it was it was really

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Speaker 2: just latching onto how much of stuff that we were

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Speaker 2: noticing from overseas and in music that we would have

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Speaker 2: listened to, you know, that we were sort of discovering

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Speaker 2: at that age. And I don't know, I think I

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Speaker 2: think there was like this initial sort of ridiculous, well,

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Speaker 2: we don't really want to do anything else, bravado sort

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Speaker 2: of thing, and then that sort of set that that

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Speaker 2: sort of set the bar for the amount of effort

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Speaker 2: that we put into it from then normal Joe. When

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Speaker 2: we when we first practiced with the only place we

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Speaker 2: could practice was either in school classrooms in the weekends

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Speaker 2: or at andy Ogutara's dad's factory. But the stipulation was

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Speaker 2: nobody else was allowed there. It was only ever us there.

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Speaker 2: It was really regimented when we were there.

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Speaker 5: So we're there.

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Speaker 2: It was like a real it was like sports practice,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it was like it was it was

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Speaker 2: like you turn up me and just said slog it

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Speaker 2: out and and you know, so that's what we did

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Speaker 2: every single a couple of days a week sort of

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Speaker 2: thing for for a couple of years. And you know,

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Speaker 2: we were terrible at the beginning, but we were, but

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Speaker 2: then we got there was so much fun. And god

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Speaker 2: knows what we would have done with that energy if

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Speaker 2: we hadn't had done that. Like that's that that weirds

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Speaker 2: me out there, you know, Like and as far as

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Speaker 2: the confidence and it goes, I think it was just

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Speaker 2: it was kind of like we worked a lot of

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Speaker 2: the people that were that were sort of enjoying the

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Speaker 2: band as well, you know, like you know, somehow we

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Speaker 2: managed to get ourselves to open for like before we

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Speaker 2: even released any music, we would open for a Poison

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Speaker 2: skood Row and Alice Cooper. Wow. And like the fact

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Speaker 2: that we even got those gigs and that we didn't

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Speaker 2: get booed off the stage, it was pretty that's pretty

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good for your confidence, you know what I mean. Like,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know's that's kind of strange, but it was.

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Speaker 2: It was just so much fun. Man, it was like

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Speaker 2: it was a lot of fun. And I kind of

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Speaker 2: I kind of I know, personally for me, it was

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Speaker 2: like really it was quite nice of being different to

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Speaker 4: Been growing up in Dunedin and then you know the

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Speaker 4: tripping video, the confidence, the energy that you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: It makes sense that you guys were getting together in

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Speaker 4: classrooms because you hit that that video. It just smashed

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Speaker 2: Had to because we had we had limited, limited time

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Speaker 2: money to make it with, and if we'd been any

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Speaker 2: less enthusiastic than that, it wouldn't That's the only way

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Speaker 4: Of work because it was revolutionary, but it was just

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Speaker 4: a performance video. It was a performance video but at

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Speaker 4: the same time revolutionary. Dude, how much you gave.

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Speaker 2: It well and also also what you might not know, Matt,

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Speaker 2: time cost us five thousand dollars to make, which was

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Speaker 2: initially for music videos and for The New Zealand on

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Speaker 2: models well, if these guys can make a video for

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Speaker 2: five grand, then get played that many, get to played

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Speaker 2: that many times. Then if we give five grand to

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Speaker 2: these to new bands starting out, you know, then maybe

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Speaker 4: And then it was five thousand for about fifteen years

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Speaker 3: Let's don't do it now, mate, When you when you

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Speaker 3: listen back to the likes of Tripping, I mean it

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Speaker 3: took New Zealand by store, no doubt about it, and

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Speaker 3: ripped up to the top of the charts. When you

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Speaker 3: hear that song now, does it make make you feel

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Speaker 3: like that was yesterday? Or is it a completely different

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Speaker 2: When we when we play it in the like when

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I've come to I've come to really like

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Speaker 2: over the years, as you have, you really come to

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Speaker 2: appreciate why people liked it and how much it's like

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Speaker 2: it blows me away that people still love it so

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Speaker 2: much and it's when you and when you come to

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Speaker 2: come to understand that it for a lot of people

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Speaker 2: life was good for them. They were teenagers or they

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Speaker 2: an incredible honor.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's and I think I love it more

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Speaker 4: You feel like this is the right moment to head

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Speaker 2: And because it's not right but we're way too old

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Speaker 5: It's just that no one has to hear all that.

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Speaker 2: So so you just got to write a song again

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Speaker 2: practicing really hard all by the way, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Beautifully said a lot of people are vissing for it.

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Speaker 3: So glad to hear you're practicing hard. And Mike, let's

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Speaker 3: talk about the new EP. So these songs span decades

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Speaker 3: What has it been like stitching together all that stuff

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like there's one there's sort of

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Speaker 4: Eh yeah, pretty good, pretty good. Speaking of great and good.

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Speaker 4: Back when you first were touring New Zealand, you played

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Speaker 4: the show in Dunedin and me and my Bogan mates

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Speaker 4: It was at a I think it was at a restaurant.

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Speaker 4: It was at a venue that no one had ever

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Speaker 4: Have you got any memories of this gig? It wasn't

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Speaker 4: went to say, how many times did you play in Dunedin?

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Speaker 5: I like a few times on that, But there must

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Speaker 3: We was we was felt like a lone staff that

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Speaker 5: Wow, I can't remember with the terminus of that. And

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Speaker 4: is you ripped it a new one and it was

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Speaker 4: It was quite a quite a show. Me and about

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Speaker 2: Uh your man.

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Speaker 4: We were dangerously steamed. We couldn't believe that there was

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Speaker 4: We couldn't have been happier.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I think that's making men you are today?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, making dreams happen then in South Dunedin.

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Speaker 4: I think it probably did. And I think your radio

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Speaker 4: So I owe a lot to you.

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Speaker 2: Mikey, Thank you mate, Thank you mate. Now mate, were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will be will be there front and shows. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Finally my key. So the brand new single to drop today?

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Speaker 3: What do you hope fans hear or feel when they

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Speaker 5: I just want them to enjoy. I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: I won't go into what the song is about apart

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Speaker 2: And if you don't listen.

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Speaker 5: Good again and if you do, then too right.

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Speaker 3: We are absolutely Mikey, we're going to play some of

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Speaker 3: that very shortly as well. So Push Push they are

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Speaker 3: playing four shows over February. Thursday, February nineteen Last Place

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a hell of a show. Mikey,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me, and thanks to

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Speaker 5: This could be the last time.

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Speaker 2: We played together.

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Speaker 5: So just there's your opportunity.

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Speaker 2: To come and see us.

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Speaker 3: Now, come on, absolutely, go go get down there see

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Speaker 3: Mikey Havoc. What an absolute legend. This song is called

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Speaker 3: The Truth. I reckon it's a banger, but let's crank

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