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Speaker 1: The issues these abuse and the inside. Andrew Dickens on

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Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple,

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Speaker 2: It'd be very good and very warm morning to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Welcome to your Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Coming up over the next hour, unemployment is about to

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Speaker 2: hit a four year high, So who's getting hit the hardest.

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Speaker 2: We'll have that story for you in five minutes time.

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Speaker 2: It's white tonguey day Eve. Is that a word? Is

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Speaker 2: that a thing? White tonguey day Eve? It's white tonguey

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Speaker 2: day Eve. What is happening up north? Our reporter Sophie

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Speaker 2: Trigger reports on the celebrations so far and what might

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Speaker 2: happen tomorrow. And it's time to tie home on kang

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Speaker 2: Order as the Housing agency gets into financial strife. So

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Speaker 2: what does Kieren mcinnaughty make of the government's plans. He's

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Speaker 2: just before six o'clock this morning. We'll have correspondence from

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Speaker 2: right around the world and New Zealand news as it breaks,

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Speaker 2: and you can contribute by texting ninety two ninety two

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Speaker 2: ZEBB dot co dot nz. It's seven after five.

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Speaker 1: The agenda, Well, it's when's the.

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Speaker 2: Fifth of February. Why Tony Day Eve To Sweden, at

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Speaker 2: least five people have been shot at a school for

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Speaker 2: adults in that country. Four of them have undergone surgery

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Speaker 2: in hospital. One is critically injured. Police say one of

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Speaker 2: the people in hospital is thought to be the perpetrator.

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Speaker 3: One of the teachers who was in her study. She

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Speaker 3: has been quoted saying that she heard about ten sholtz,

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Speaker 3: so five shorts and then a pause, and then five

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Speaker 3: more shorts. And Swedish police and Swedish media are saying

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Speaker 3: that this is a very serious situation.

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Speaker 2: Two the trade wars, and China has hit back at

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Speaker 2: the United States as Donald Trump's ten percent tariffs on

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Speaker 2: all exports kick in today. Beijing has introduced a number

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Speaker 2: of fifteen percent tariffs and ten percent tariffs on all

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Speaker 2: sorts of things like imported coal, gas, and vehicles and machinery,

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Speaker 2: and the country's anti monopoly watchdog has launched an investigation

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Speaker 2: into Google.

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Speaker 4: They've got a wider set of tools available for retaliation,

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Speaker 4: and they seem to believe that they're going to be

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Speaker 4: able to respond quickly, and that China has the ability

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Speaker 4: to endure more pain as well. And so China is

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Speaker 4: quite serious in this as both China and the US

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Speaker 4: pasture themselves for what are going to be very serious negotiations.

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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump has scheduled a phone call with Chinese

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Speaker 2: leader Jijimping and he's going to do that later this week.

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Speaker 2: And that's not the only key meeting for Trump. He's

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Speaker 2: expected to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today.

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Speaker 2: This comes at a crucial time during the seas fire

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Speaker 2: deal between Israel and Hamas.

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Speaker 5: It's critical in terms of discussion in Gaza, in terms

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Speaker 5: favor of the ostygen and in terms of the political

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Speaker 5: in the Middle East concerning the Trump's vision.

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Speaker 2: And back home. Real estate agent Janet Dixon has been

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Speaker 2: left with her thirty year career in limbo at Dixon's

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Speaker 2: real estate license was put on the line. That was

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Speaker 2: because she refused to take a compulsory Tikanga Maori course. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the High Court ruled the real estate agent's authority were

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock this morning, It's ten after five The.

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Speaker 1: News you Need this Morning and the in Depth Analysis

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Speaker 1: Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your

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Speaker 1: Property Search Simple, News Talk Zippy.

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Speaker 2: So it's back. The White Tonguy Amateur Dramatics Association is

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Speaker 2: presenting their twenty twenty five production of White Tonguey, The

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Speaker 2: Fury and the Flounds. It's the one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: fifth anniversary edition. This year promised us even more of

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Speaker 2: the highlights we've come to expect, hot air, overacting, the

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Speaker 2: odd scuffle, a nation load of posturing and of course

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Speaker 2: the ever popular flounce by the Prime Minister. This year.

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Speaker 2: You know, every year it's the same. We get a

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Speaker 2: And you know they've never been there and never will

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Speaker 2: It's not really a hotbed of controversy, no matter how

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Speaker 2: of the clans, both Maori and Crown, is always full

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Speaker 2: of civility, really and old fashioned speechification, but nothing rarely

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Speaker 2: gets discussed White Tonguey on its day. Everybody is too

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Speaker 2: busy socializing and posturing and wearing too many clothes and

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Speaker 2: happens elsewhere, and the real stuff happens in private. White

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Speaker 2: Tonguey Day is for show. And if you actually go,

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Speaker 2: you'll see it is a good show, full of emotions

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Speaker 2: of a nation and some amazing tableaus. We saw one yesterday,

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Speaker 2: the arrival of the Maori Queen. We'll see the dawn.

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Speaker 2: We'll see the images of armed forces by the flag staff,

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Speaker 1: Our show, Andrew Dickens.

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Speaker 2: So I've got some proof here that Wellington's doing it tough.

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Speaker 2: The Wellington City Rtable valuations have come out and on

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Speaker 2: average house values have plummeted twenty four point four percent

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. It's a quarter capital values have

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Speaker 2: some at twenty nine point three percent. It's a heartbreak

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Speaker 2: for a house owner. The average house value is now

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Speaker 2: sitting at just over one million. QV says it's because

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Speaker 2: and with such a big drop in values, Wellingtonians will

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Speaker 2: They'll be hoping for a decrease in rates, but dream on.

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Speaker 2: The values only determine the percentage of the rate bill

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Speaker 2: that the property owner needs to pay, so it will

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Speaker 2: make little difference. It's still going to get stung. In fact,

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Speaker 2: in there. Meanwhile, Auckland valuations will not be released until

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. So it's five thirteen and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: unemployment in a few moments time. We've got the senior

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Speaker 2: today and we're expecting it to head a four year high.

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Speaker 2: Five sixteen on a Wednesday, and unemployment is expected to

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Speaker 2: hit a four year high for the end of last year.

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Speaker 2: This morning will be the last major data release before

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Speaker 2: the OCR decision that's coming out on February the nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: The Reserve Bank is forecasting the unemployment rate to rise

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Speaker 2: Marx Smith. Goodbrding to you, Mark, good morning. Do you

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Speaker 6: It could well be. There is a lot of variability

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Speaker 6: that the economy has gone through a concerted downturn and

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Speaker 2: Is this just because of the public sector carts or

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot more broad based than that. But

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Speaker 6: obviously Willington will be a you've been feeling the pain,

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Speaker 2: Okay, So who's hit hardest, who's not getting the jobs?

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Speaker 6: When you look at the unemployment rates, really the pickups

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Speaker 6: What we have been seeing is that wage pressures have

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Speaker 2: morning and I've just told you about your your rateable

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Speaker 2: unemployment's bad in that area, tell me, is there any

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Speaker 2: All remark, I think you for your time today, senior

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Speaker 2: economists at the ASB Marksmith those figures out later today

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Speaker 2: it is five eighteen. You can text on ninety two

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Speaker 2: ninety two. Someone says you're right, White Tonguey Day is

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Speaker 2: Oh I take it from that you're not taking the holiday.

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Speaker 2: Then you'll keep working worrying about the productivity. Now you

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Speaker 2: next we will go to White Tonguey. Sophie Trigger is

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Speaker 2: our reporter and she's standing by. It is five nineteen.

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Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier this year

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property search

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Speaker 1: simple if you talk.

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Speaker 3: Said the.

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Speaker 2: Grunts just texted me and said no holiday on the

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Speaker 2: farm here and I will not be watching that show either.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your text. Christopher Luxan going to Akaroa.

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Speaker 2: Some people say that's a snub against Maldi. I think

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Speaker 2: it's a bit broader than that. More on that in

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Speaker 2: just a few moments time. But of course the white

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Speaker 2: tonguey commemorations have started. Remember it's a week long thing.

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Speaker 2: It's not just one day. They've already started that doing it. Politicians, ee,

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Speaker 8: Now, Hello Sophie, Good morning Andrew. How are you good?

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Speaker 8: Actually, Andrew, I was up here last year as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, hundreds turned out to watch Andrew and the porpity.

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Speaker 2: Very good, Sophie, enjoy the day and I thank you.

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Speaker 2: So it is the week of White Tonguey and this

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Speaker 2: They need to have a cup of tea. More on this.

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Speaker 2: My name is Andrew Dickens in for Ryan Bridge. Good

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Speaker 2: morning to.

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Speaker 9: You, benet to the.

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Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day in

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Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and One roof Make your

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Speaker 1: Property search Simple. You talk sidy.

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Speaker 2: Because I told Joby good morning to you. I'm Andrew Dickens.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. Tomorrow is a holiday. It's our national day.

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Speaker 2: But some people don't say that.

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Speaker 10: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Look, there's a British bloke who ran the entire length

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Speaker 2: It's enormous. It's monolithic, it's gleaming white. It's got this

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Speaker 2: Temple of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise known as the Mormons, and it's very imposing indeed,

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Speaker 2: and if you've been curious as to what might be inside,

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Speaker 2: well they're having an open month from the twenty seventh

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Speaker 2: be doing the same thing now. We'll find that out

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Speaker 2: with Kieren McNulty who's about ten minutes away. It is

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Speaker 1: To six Andrew Dickens.

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Speaker 2: So around the country we go. Callum Proctor joins us

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Speaker 2: from Dunedin. Good morning to you. Callum No, Kellum, there's

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Speaker 2: Callum here.

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Speaker 11: You got me there?

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Speaker 2: Good morning yeah, well a lovely voice. You should be

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Speaker 2: in radio. The return of the world's Fastest Indian, the

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Speaker 2: Bert Monroe Challenge is back.

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Speaker 11: It is back for its eighteenth year, with events kicking

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Speaker 11: off today running through to Sunday. Look, this is huge,

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Speaker 11: attracts thousands of motorcycle enthusiasts to in for cargol both

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Speaker 11: rally in the Southern Hemisphere. In fact, one of the

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Speaker 11: more popular events is the beach racing. It's Friday afternoon

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Speaker 11: at Taratong all weekend South and Police Andrews say they'll

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Speaker 11: cargol fine twenty four Dunedin's fine and twenty two today

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Speaker 11: great stuff.

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Speaker 2: We're going to crash now, Thomas Race. Good morning here morning.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about christ Church's quality of life?

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Speaker 10: Yes, so, Christchurchers has done their latest quality of life survey.

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Speaker 10: Eighty percent of residents are enjoying their life in the

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Speaker 10: year's results. The amount of people who believe their equality

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Speaker 10: city Council remains low. Only thirty eight percent, having believing

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Speaker 10: it makes decisions in christ Church's best interests.

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Speaker 2: How's the weather not too bad?

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Speaker 10: Bit of cloud clearing and becoming fined in the morning,

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Speaker 10: but that will return later tonight. Northeasterlies easing in the evening,

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, that's a positive and the quality of life

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Speaker 2: Max told joins us from Wellington. Hello Max, good morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry your house prices have plummeted.

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Speaker 12: Well I don't own a home, so it's not too

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Speaker 12: bad for me. Just massive, massive drops though in value

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Speaker 12: across the region. This is the front page of the

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Speaker 12: Herald this morning as well. We were so high in

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Speaker 12: twenty twenty one at the peak for sellers. You might

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Speaker 12: say that a drop probably felt inevitable at the next

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Speaker 12: count but this is still just really bad news for

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Speaker 12: homeowners in Wellington. Obviously, the city's economic struggles have been noted.

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Speaker 12: What you're looking at is values falling in every single

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Speaker 12: suburb from between twelve to thirty percent, the overall average

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Speaker 12: decline twenty one percent. Owners are going to be able

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Speaker 12: to assess the damage today on the qv website, as

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Speaker 12: well as rating valuations on the City Council's online property search.

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Speaker 12: This doesn't necessarily affect rates and market value in the

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Speaker 12: same way. The sale price doesn't just plummet by the

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Speaker 12: same degree overnight, but clearly a buyer's market now in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: And how's the weather if you're buying fine light winds

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Speaker 2: twenty one central? How lovely? Meva Writtamandage joins me from

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Speaker 2: Auckland Heillo Greetings. Okay, we've been looking at the coffee

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Speaker 2: habits of people who work at CBD.

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Speaker 13: That's right, Auckland CBD workers. Now, well this comes any

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Speaker 13: surprise to you, so JLL that's the leasing company. Chris

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Speaker 13: Dibble from there. He's looked at Google popularity data of

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Speaker 13: twenty two cafes in the city center discovered will this

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Speaker 13: come as a shock?

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Speaker 2: Thursday?

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Speaker 13: Thursday is the most popular day for coffee overall. Now

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Speaker 13: this was followed closely by Wednesday and Friday, so that

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Speaker 13: leaves Monday and Tuesday usually quieter. So we can probably

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Speaker 13: tell you that the popularity of Thursday from eleven am

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Speaker 13: probably because people are going out for mid morning team

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Speaker 13: or client meetings. And then obviously in the week Monday Tuesday,

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Speaker 13: where it's really quiet, people are probably working from home.

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Speaker 2: So the biggest story out of Auckland is coffee?

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Speaker 1: Correct?

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Speaker 13: Can I just say that that's what we've been talking

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Speaker 13: about in the cart. Do you drink coffee?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How do you function it?

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Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 13: What is that? Is that from your Instah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm making instant commercial radio. I'm drink instant coffee.

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Speaker 9: Really.

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Speaker 2: How's o weather? How's our weather?

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Speaker 14: Fine?

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Speaker 13: Cloud increasing from a late afternoon not a good day

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Speaker 13: to drink instant coffee.

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Speaker 2: High of twenty five, seventeen to six, and we've got

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Speaker 2: Devin Gray here, will be looking at the situation in Sweden.

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Speaker 2: There's five people have been shot. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: And the man who wants to run the length of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and yes, I'm sorry, Tom Cruise was a scientologist,

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Speaker 2: not a Mormon.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen to six International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 1: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is dramatic. It is fifteen to six, and

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Speaker 2: we have a few communication difficulties with Gavin Gray and

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Speaker 2: the UK. But now can I say good morning.

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Speaker 14: Gav, Good morning there Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Magnificent loving it. Five people shot at a school in

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Speaker 2: central Sweden.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and at the moment, we're still being told this

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Speaker 14: is a sort of active scene. It's at a small

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Speaker 14: town about two hundred kilometers west of the capitals dot Com.

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Speaker 14: It happened at lunchtime. Five people shot at an education

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Speaker 14: center and the police are telling people to stay away

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Speaker 14: until they believe the danger to be over. So at

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Speaker 14: the moment, all we understand is that all of those

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Speaker 14: who have been injured have been taken to hospital, four

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Speaker 14: have undergone operations for their injuries and one is critically injured. Normally,

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Speaker 14: Sweden is a pretty quiet and peaceful place, but a

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Speaker 14: massive gun crime like this well is certainly a shock.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the Hardest Gezer. You gotta love this guy.

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Speaker 14: So this guy is a British endurance walker marathon runner.

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Speaker 14: You might say, he ran successfully the entire length of

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Speaker 14: Africa and now he's going to run the entire length

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Speaker 14: of New Zealand. Russell Cook is his name. He's nicknamed

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Speaker 14: the Hardest Geezer and he completed that challenge through Africa

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Speaker 14: in April of last year, taking almost an entire year. Now,

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Speaker 14: the twenty seven year old from worthing Down on the

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Speaker 14: south coast of England is to run three thousand kilometers

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Speaker 14: that'll see him take on sixty ultramarathons while navigating mountains, forests,

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Speaker 14: coastline cities, you name it, he said, New Zealand this summer.

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Speaker 14: I've always wanted to go. It's the adventure capital of

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Speaker 14: the world. It's going to be brutal on my legs.

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Speaker 14: I've never done anything before. And well, he expects that

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Speaker 14: ninety four hundred and forty elevation part of the journey

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Speaker 14: to be the most challenging. Suffice to say, it isn't

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Speaker 14: all going to be hard work. During the challenge, he

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Speaker 14: wants to bungee jump off Auckland harbor Bridge Canyon, swing

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Speaker 14: in Queenston, and skydive in abel Tasman.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if you realize it's just quite

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Speaker 2: hell hilly we are. But good luck to him. And

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Speaker 2: I noticed that you didn't actually have a crack at

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Speaker 2: the Maldi name for our trail. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: have a crek or not?

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Speaker 10: Ha ha.

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Speaker 14: I was worried you're going to ask that, Okay, taya rara.

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Speaker 2: To aor Oh it's all right, mate, don't you worry

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Speaker 2: about a thing. Kevin Gray from the UK. It is

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Speaker 2: now twelve minutes to six. Okay, kanga AA has come

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Speaker 2: up with a new plan to help save the agency.

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Speaker 2: The Turnaroud plan will refocus on getting back to basics.

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Speaker 2: They will still build and manage social housing by selling

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Speaker 2: nine hundred homes a year that are no longer fit

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Speaker 2: for purpose and renewing older homes that needs And they

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Speaker 2: say the number of state homes will not change, but

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Speaker 2: then again, nor will they increase. And under the plan,

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Speaker 2: debt is forecast to be one point eight billion dollars

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Speaker 2: lower in twenty seven to twenty eight compared to the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three forecasts of a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: So Labor Housing spokesperson Karen mcinnaughty is with it now, hallikiereno.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry I double clicked hallakieren good morning. So the

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Speaker 2: government and the chairman and the CEO says that the

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Speaker 2: refocus is necessary because the agency is in financial strife.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree and do you agree that something had

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Speaker 2: to change?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 15: I don't agree, And I'm quite perplexed that the minister

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Speaker 15: will stand up and celebrate this as a success when

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Speaker 15: the need for social houses continue to grow. Oh, the

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Speaker 15: housing crisis committed to get worse and his solution seems

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Speaker 15: to be not building houses.

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Speaker 2: But yes, the chairman and the CEO also said there

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Speaker 2: was financial strife and you can't build houses if you

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Speaker 2: don't have money.

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Speaker 15: Well, actually the same bloke said in front of the

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Speaker 15: Select Committee of Parliament that any organization with their level

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Speaker 15: of assets would be quite comfortable.

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Speaker 7: With the ratio of debt that they hold. The Chairman

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Speaker 7: and the CEO are doing what the government ask that's

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Speaker 7: what they do. The Minister has made it quite clear

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Speaker 7: heading into government that they believe that there is no

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Speaker 7: role for the government to build state houses. The problem

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Speaker 7: with that position, of course, is that if the government

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Speaker 7: is it involved in building state houses, they don't get

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Speaker 7: built and people don't get homes.

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Speaker 2: True, but the Chairman also said the KOing Aura had

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Speaker 2: significant growth over the past five years. That's under your watch.

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Speaker 2: You delivered thirteen thousand homes, you refurbished three four hundred

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Speaker 2: of them. But that growth was unsustainable. So it's time

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Speaker 2: for a cup of tea.

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Speaker 7: There was always changes under way at cling Oral. Let's

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Speaker 7: not forget it was a brand new organization when the

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Speaker 7: Labor government came in in twenty seventeen. The New Zealand

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Speaker 7: Housing corporation existed solely to sell state houses. Previous government

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Speaker 7: ended up with fifteen hundred fewer than what they started with.

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Speaker 7: And then you're right, we built pretty much fourteen thousand homes.

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Speaker 7: That is a massive amount of growth, and there was

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Speaker 7: always efficiencies happening along the way. But because that was

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Speaker 7: happening at such a fast pace, there's no excuse to

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Speaker 7: turn around and make a case that is unsustainable. If

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Speaker 7: you remember when the Prime Minister and the Minister stood

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Speaker 7: up and made this case at the podium in Parliament,

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Speaker 7: they talked about the death. They didn't once talk about

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Speaker 7: the value of the assets in the way that that

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Speaker 7: has grown, which has actually growing at a faster rate

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Speaker 7: than the debt. There's forty seven billion dollars worth of

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Speaker 7: assets crying or Aura's books. They don't talk about that

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Speaker 7: because when you compare the assets to the debt, it's

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Speaker 7: a completely different story.

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Speaker 2: So if you were still in charge, you would be

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Speaker 2: facing the same books. You've already said that the pace

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Speaker 2: of building that happened under your charge previously was extraordinarily fast.

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Speaker 2: Would you have continued that fast pace and continued to

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Speaker 2: throw the agency into even more debt crisis?

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Speaker 7: Well, We've got to be careful with their wording here.

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Speaker 7: I've just to explained to you that there was no

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Speaker 7: debt crisis. There is a large amount of debt, but

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Speaker 7: there is also considerable amount of assets. This is a

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Speaker 7: jack up in my view. The report that established this

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Speaker 7: case was flawed, It contained factual errors and it just

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Speaker 7: coincidentally landed with the same recommendations. Then was exactly where

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Speaker 7: the previous National government were. This was always going to happen.

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Speaker 7: What I'm concerned about is that they have walked away

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Speaker 7: from building houses to those people that need them. So

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Speaker 7: let's compare what was happening when there was up to

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Speaker 7: five thousand homes being built a year and now is

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Speaker 7: going to be no growth. Can you extrapolate this over

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Speaker 7: the years. How many people are going to miss out

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Speaker 7: on a home. We've already seen homelessness grow. We've seen

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Speaker 7: stories of people living in cars and garages and tents

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Speaker 7: and on the street. It's only going to get worse.

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Speaker 7: That's the exact same situation that this country was left

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Speaker 7: in the last time the National Party were in government.

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Speaker 2: Kieren Mcinaty, thank you for your time, the Labor Housing spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts ninety two. Ninety two is my text number.

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Speaker 2: It is now seven minutes to six.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on Nafili edition where one roof make your

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Speaker 1: Property search simple, youth dog Zibby.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's fine to six. So Careen mcinnaught has just

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Speaker 2: come onto the program and said, we've got we've got

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Speaker 2: heaps of assets. It's fine. So Craig picked what was

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Speaker 2: wrong with that? He says in his text, this guy

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Speaker 2: on the social housing you may have billions of dollars

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Speaker 2: of assets, but you have to be able to service

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Speaker 2: your debt. We are asset rich and cash poord. That's

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Speaker 2: what New Zealand is. And I think that's what the

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Speaker 2: chairman and the CEO were saying all the way along shore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you could do it, care but could you actually

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Speaker 2: pay the debt? Mike Husking joins me, Now, hello, microphone,

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Speaker 2: please makeel.

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Speaker 16: I'll turn that on. If they've got two hundred houses

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Speaker 16: at over a couple of million dollars, that's half a

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Speaker 16: billion dollars worth of assets they don't need to, you know.

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Speaker 16: And I thought the most interesting statistic was the bulk

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Speaker 16: of people in the current queue, which is about twenty

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Speaker 16: thousand want a one bedroom house. So why would you

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Speaker 16: put a single person in a three bedroom house in

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Speaker 16: rem you were worth two and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 16: But then's best sanity. You build these things though, and

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Speaker 16: then everyone goes, oh, there this high density. No family

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Speaker 16: wants to live in that, and everyone complains about either

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Speaker 16: one help you you don't you know, take it or

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Speaker 16: leave a Jenet Dixon, I whod you mentioned that earlier

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Speaker 16: on this morning. So she was always going to lose

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Speaker 16: because just because you don't like a rule doesn't mean

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Speaker 16: the body who made the rule and have the right

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Speaker 16: to make the rule. And that's the problem with courts.

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Speaker 16: Courts argue along the law, not whether you and I

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Speaker 16: think it's a sensible thing to do or not. So

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Speaker 16: we'll talk to her this morning. I feel very sorry.

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Speaker 2: Is she righteously angry?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 16: As she should be, because it's unfortunate. But you know,

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Speaker 16: we we put up with each day. I don't I

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Speaker 16: don't know about you, but I do a whole lot

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Speaker 16: of rules around here that really to be frank, if

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Speaker 16: I around the world would be different. But you know

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Speaker 16: that's life, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: They don't come in and say you've got to pronounce

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Speaker 2: melody correctly, they don't come in and and there are rules.

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Speaker 16: No, that's what you're doing. See what you're doing is

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Speaker 16: you and I agree because we're taking a sensible stance.

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Speaker 16: But in a court, that's not how it works. And

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Speaker 16: that's essentially why she lost.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was her practice, she had to make her

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Speaker 2: own rules. But years, that's the next that's.

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Speaker 16: The next thing, because there's I always thought as a

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Speaker 16: real estate agent you were essentially self employed.

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Speaker 2: You are so therefore you make yourself attractive to your market.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to speak Chinese, speak Chinese, I

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Speaker 2: want to speak Mary.

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Speaker 16: I think on the you know, the pub test, yes,

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Speaker 16: I don't think it. I don't think it passes. But

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Speaker 16: the court test and the pub test are two different.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, she's with us. I'd rather go to the pub.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and I thank you. I won't

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Speaker 2: be here tomorrow, but I will be here on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Mike will be here on Friday as well, because we're

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Speaker 2: all about the productivity.

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