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Speaker 2: Hell are you great, New Zealanders And welcome to Man

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons podcast number sixty eight. Potentially it is the

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Speaker 2: seventeenth of February twenty twenty five. Great show today, some

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Speaker 2: incredible insights into me. One of the great things about

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Speaker 2: on ZB is if you talk about something, the person

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Speaker 2: that's the expert on that will call up later on.

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Speaker 2: We talk about streaking and we go deep into a

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Speaker 2: conversation with an actual security guard in the ins and

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Speaker 2: outs of that. And plus we talk to the famous

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Speaker 2: streaker from the Blearslow Cup two thousand and two.

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Speaker 3: Massive insight, Aaron who.

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Speaker 2: Got paid by a company to streak and his regrets

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Speaker 2: about that and twenty three years ago. Today. So great show,

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Speaker 2: hope you enjoy it. Set to download, subscribe and follow

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Speaker 1: Yours your new for insateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC eighty on

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoons, You welcome into the show SEV and pass

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Speaker 3: one Monday Afternoon, Kiday.

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Speaker 2: Maddie yet a tyler. You have a good weekend.

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Speaker 3: I certainly did. Yep, just me, my partner, May and

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Speaker 3: the dog. It was blessed. Was our anniversary, not our

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Speaker 3: marriage anniversary because we're not married, but when we first

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Speaker 3: met each other at a bar all those years ago,

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Speaker 3: and then of course Valentine's Day because I cocked that

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Speaker 3: for that. So it was lovely mate. What about you doing?

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Speaker 2: Fantastic weekend which put a sport went onto the rugby

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Speaker 2: at Eden Park. We might talk about streaking later on

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Speaker 2: because it was a bit of that going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I think that I think the rugby was very

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Speaker 2: good over the weekend, the Super Rugby.

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Speaker 3: Great start to that super competition. Well yeah, speaking of

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Speaker 3: the Super Competition, we are going to have a chat

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Speaker 3: about streaking after three o'clock. Are they idiots or are

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Speaker 3: they entertaining? This is on the back of a couple

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Speaker 3: of streakers pitch invaders at the Blues check game that

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Speaker 3: you went to. What was the reaction of the crowd.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because some people

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Speaker 2: get I mean, we do laugh at streakers in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: We find them funny. Yeah, and you know it's annoying

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Speaker 2: if they affect the game. But it is a security

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Speaker 2: isn't it My kids when they remember One of my

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Speaker 3: It is a bit of a Kiwi Aussie thing that,

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Speaker 2: There was a guy that got nude at the super

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Speaker 3: to two o'clock. You would have seen this story. Nick Angster,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you pay twelve dollars for something that's

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Speaker 2: So he's saying sixteen dollars for that pint is what

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Speaker 2: Because we want people going out. We want hospow going well,

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Speaker 3: Definitely looking forward to that chat. If you work in hospo,

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Speaker 3: our overall health. How do you intervene when you're worried

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Speaker 3: Heart Foundations annual appeal. They're running a bunch of stories

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to hear from people one hundred and

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Speaker 3: Not even a sly comment to someone that you're incredibly

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Speaker 3: It's a real tough one, isn't it. It's a tough

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess the thing is, you know, if

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Speaker 2: So, and boy around food is a really huge one.

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Speaker 2: So if you've got someone that's overweight and you you

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Speaker 2: Do you shame that? I don't know, you probably should,

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, well, thank you for the compliment because I

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Speaker 2: Well that's probably saying quite a behind your back. They're

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Speaker 2: probably going, jeez, chi, Charlie, people put on the hounds.

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Speaker 2: Had all the pies Tyler? That kind of thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So have you done it? I one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. It is sixteen past one. We've asked the question,

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Speaker 2: People, we need to have an intervention on my turning,

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Speaker 2: To her this text. So this is what people kind

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Speaker 3: I think people tend to get the heckels up right.

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Speaker 2: I'd get annoyed. I asked her to do it, and

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Speaker 2: bunch of texts coming through on this. How dare you

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Speaker 2: know that. How dare you? I had a very large

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Speaker 3: But if you care about them, then I know it's

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Speaker 3: technically well, it is your business. There you were, you

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Speaker 2: As long as you're sure you're coming from a good place. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love pies back then, so yeah, he

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Speaker 5: I've actually been the opposite that I've had someone approaching

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Speaker 6: Lady bug her off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's not right. I mean, you can't just

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Speaker 5: I had me I'm the kind of person that makes

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Speaker 5: So you know, when you walk past people down the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So at the time when she said it, did you

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Speaker 6: I was kind of I was very very caught off guard,

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Speaker 7: You repeat there please?

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Speaker 5: And then she repeated it, and I said, to a

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Speaker 8: Bugger off.

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Speaker 2: What did she say at that point?

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Speaker 5: She says, oh, well, you shouldn't be out and about

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Speaker 5: And I said, why should I?

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Speaker 2: This person is a very judgmental person that thinks they've

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Speaker 2: You can't be doing interventions on people that you don't know. No,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. How's your health?

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Speaker 5: Now, Jennis, I'm basically I am sort of cancer free congress,

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Speaker 2: Is huge, great to hear. Yeah, and hopefully this woman

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Speaker 5: Didn't get here.

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Speaker 3: She had to seek you very much, nice to chat.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not suggesting going up to people that you don't

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Speaker 2: you know a lot about, you know their circumstances, and

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Speaker 2: from a place of love, you're coming to them and saying,

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Speaker 2: I think that maybe you need to do something about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and but yet yeah, oh eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 2: Has anyone successfully said and I know genis wasn't it

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Speaker 2: that line have yourself a stake sand which ever worked

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Speaker 2: for anyone that is that has an eating disorder. That's

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Speaker 2: that's not useful. No, that's not a useful piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: That's not understanding the complexities around eating disorders at all,

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Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 3: if you've managed to do that with a partner. Love

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Speaker 3: to hear from your nine two nine two. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a strategy there if it is your partner or

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Speaker 3: If you're worried about your health, you don't say I'm

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Speaker 3: worried about your health. You've got to go to them

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Speaker 3: and say, from this point on, we're going to be

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's the thing as well. And you kind

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Speaker 2: of owe it to do everything you can to stick

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Speaker 2: around to support your family, don't you. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 3: Well, that's effectively it is.

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Speaker 2: We need you earning. Yeah, so you know, quite apart

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

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Speaker 10: Breakfast, Education Minister Erica Stamford has said David Seymore somewhat

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Speaker 7: Who was with us.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about when did you ever intervene

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Speaker 3: in somebody's health, somebody that you cared about when you

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Speaker 3: could see they were on a fast track to on

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Speaker 3: Earth Early death of one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. Some good texts coming through,

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Speaker 3: But let's go to share. How are you shared?

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Speaker 14: Hello, I'm good, Thank you. I have the opposite. I

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Speaker 14: actually had somebody intervene with me, and it was I

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Speaker 14: was I'd finished high school, was now flatting, I was

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Speaker 14: at university. I was getting all the wrong foods, drinking

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Speaker 14: too much. And there was a girl.

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Speaker 6: She was Chinese.

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Speaker 14: She was she'd only been in the country for a

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Speaker 14: couple of years, so you know, she didn't quite have

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Speaker 14: the same I guess politeness that key we've have. And

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Speaker 14: she said to me, she she goes, you know, I

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Speaker 14: have to tell you. She said, you're getting a little

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Speaker 14: bit fat. She said, not fat fat, just a little

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Speaker 14: bit fat. But you used to be skinny and now

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Speaker 14: you're little bit fat. And I just remember I already

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Speaker 14: knew when she said it to me, I was like,

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Speaker 14: oh my gosh, I already know this, but I was

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Speaker 14: sort of, you know, hoping that nobody else was noticing

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Speaker 14: that I'd been putting on a bit of weight. And

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Speaker 14: I have to do something, and my flat mats had

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Speaker 14: just said, I run around the block. And then I

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Speaker 14: did this. I ran around the block every day for

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Speaker 14: seven months, and I to this day. I'm now thirty six.

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Speaker 14: I'm still running, not every day, but at least three

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Speaker 14: I might be in a whole different.

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Speaker 6: Past in life.

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Speaker 2: How did you feel when she said that? Though sheit

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Speaker 2: like what was your reaction? Did you just take it

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Speaker 15: I was like.

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Speaker 14: Horrified because I was with a couple of other friends

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Speaker 14: and they were like, Grace, you can't say that. You're

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Speaker 14: not supposed to say that in New Zealand. And she

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Speaker 14: was like, what, I just tell the truth and I

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Speaker 14: I've put on a couple of cag's. My pants aren't

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Speaker 14: already knew I had to do something, but it was

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like you

438
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Speaker 2: were unhealthy, you know, it just sounds like you just

439
00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:43,773
Speaker 2: put on a little bit. So that's not so much

440
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Speaker 2: that she's talking esthetically. That's not a health issue she

441
00:19:48,333 --> 00:19:48,773
Speaker 2: was raising.

442
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Speaker 14: She was just notice it was it was aesthetics. But

443
00:19:52,133 --> 00:19:55,653
Speaker 14: you know what if you sometimes like it starts off

444
00:19:55,693 --> 00:19:57,973
Speaker 14: like that, but if I look at my family, like

445
00:19:58,093 --> 00:20:01,813
Speaker 14: my mother and my grandmother, my grandmother was severely overweight,

446
00:20:02,533 --> 00:20:06,293
Speaker 14: a wonderful person, amazing human being, but you know, definitely overweight,

447
00:20:06,453 --> 00:20:08,893
Speaker 14: and perhaps like that was how my body was gonna

448
00:20:08,933 --> 00:20:11,373
Speaker 14: also end up if I hadn't, if somebody hadn't come

449
00:20:11,413 --> 00:20:14,173
Speaker 14: in and just you know, said it bluntly to my faith.

450
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Speaker 2: But I could have backfired terribly. But because some people

451
00:20:16,893 --> 00:20:19,933
Speaker 2: when they get that kind of insult, they you know,

452
00:20:20,333 --> 00:20:23,973
Speaker 2: some sometimes you know, comfort foods a thing. So it

453
00:20:24,133 --> 00:20:27,293
Speaker 2: worked for you, But you must have been the type

454
00:20:27,293 --> 00:20:30,493
Speaker 2: of personality that was ready to listen to something like that.

455
00:20:30,573 --> 00:20:33,453
Speaker 2: I can imagine it going complete the other way and.

456
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Speaker 14: Could definitely could have.

457
00:20:35,213 --> 00:20:36,493
Speaker 3: But isn't there part of it.

458
00:20:36,533 --> 00:20:36,693
Speaker 14: You know.

459
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Speaker 3: I mentioned before when I had got a bit chunky,

460
00:20:39,213 --> 00:20:42,613
Speaker 3: nobody said anything to me until i'd lost weight, And

461
00:20:42,693 --> 00:20:45,213
Speaker 3: I think you're quite quite right, Matt and Shaw. You

462
00:20:45,373 --> 00:20:49,133
Speaker 3: know this that no doubt people were saying things behind

463
00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:51,613
Speaker 3: my back, saying, jeez, Tyler's looking a bit chunky. I mean,

464
00:20:51,653 --> 00:20:53,613
Speaker 3: what happened to me? Probably you know, how did he

465
00:20:53,693 --> 00:20:57,053
Speaker 3: get get so bloom and fat? But if that said

466
00:20:57,093 --> 00:20:59,093
Speaker 3: something to me and pulled me aside, maybe not in

467
00:20:59,133 --> 00:21:01,293
Speaker 3: your scenario where it was a group chat and someone

468
00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:03,733
Speaker 3: said something but pulled me inside and said, hey, what's

469
00:21:03,893 --> 00:21:05,973
Speaker 3: going on. We just noticed Tyler you put on a

470
00:21:05,973 --> 00:21:08,333
Speaker 3: few pounds. I would have been hurt, but they probably

471
00:21:08,533 --> 00:21:10,333
Speaker 3: have been a kick up the bum to say, Okay,

472
00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:11,373
Speaker 3: I've got to sort myself out.

473
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Speaker 14: Yes, I think the key is is, like we're so

474
00:21:15,253 --> 00:21:18,053
Speaker 14: politically correct, we don't want to offend anybody, and so

475
00:21:18,093 --> 00:21:21,293
Speaker 14: we don't say anything. But perhaps sometimes like letting them

476
00:21:21,293 --> 00:21:24,293
Speaker 14: be uncomfortable maybe will help them and if they're not well,

477
00:21:24,373 --> 00:21:26,853
Speaker 14: they'll get over it regardless. But in saying that, I

478
00:21:27,293 --> 00:21:29,053
Speaker 14: don't think i'd have the guts to do it despite

479
00:21:29,093 --> 00:21:30,053
Speaker 14: my positive story.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the thing is if it's true. I mean,

481
00:21:32,893 --> 00:21:35,053
Speaker 2: if we could be completely logical about someone. If someone

482
00:21:35,053 --> 00:21:36,493
Speaker 2: says to you that you've put on a lot of

483
00:21:36,493 --> 00:21:38,813
Speaker 2: weight and they're worried about you, if it's true, then

484
00:21:38,853 --> 00:21:41,373
Speaker 2: you'd be silly to get offended because they're just pointing

485
00:21:41,413 --> 00:21:45,173
Speaker 2: out reality. So you' you know, in the perfect world,

486
00:21:45,173 --> 00:21:47,093
Speaker 2: you go, thank you for that information. I'll take that

487
00:21:47,173 --> 00:21:50,053
Speaker 2: on board and I'll make the appropriate steps. But it's

488
00:21:50,213 --> 00:21:52,053
Speaker 2: kind of more likely that you're going to go screw you.

489
00:21:52,173 --> 00:21:55,453
Speaker 2: How dare you? I remember when I was about thirty,

490
00:21:56,053 --> 00:21:59,333
Speaker 2: a friend of mine, I was just sitting around in

491
00:21:59,373 --> 00:22:01,453
Speaker 2: this house and we were having a couple of drinks

492
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:05,853
Speaker 2: and my mate Gary just goes, geez, man, you look

493
00:22:05,973 --> 00:22:09,933
Speaker 2: like a forty year old man. You look like just

494
00:22:10,133 --> 00:22:13,773
Speaker 2: and shamed me in front of everyone. And I didn't.

495
00:22:13,773 --> 00:22:14,453
Speaker 2: I didn't take that.

496
00:22:14,493 --> 00:22:16,853
Speaker 3: Well, no, but he was right.

497
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Speaker 14: I think you look great, Matt. And I'm sure your

498
00:22:19,093 --> 00:22:20,733
Speaker 14: friend who knows you have to look him up. Maybe

499
00:22:20,733 --> 00:22:22,453
Speaker 14: he doesn't look so great.

500
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Speaker 2: Caller look him up for yours and the same god back. Actually,

501
00:22:26,973 --> 00:22:29,173
Speaker 2: now he'd take the forty year old man. Hey, thank

502
00:22:29,213 --> 00:22:30,493
Speaker 2: you so much for your calls here. You have a

503
00:22:30,533 --> 00:22:30,973
Speaker 2: great day.

504
00:22:31,733 --> 00:22:34,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, being called butder, I think is probably a bit

505
00:22:34,013 --> 00:22:36,133
Speaker 3: more extreme saying hu, it depends.

506
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Speaker 2: Which butter as well, because at one point the teacher

507
00:22:38,933 --> 00:22:41,693
Speaker 2: of Buddher was very there's multiple butdders. Yeah, there's the

508
00:22:41,773 --> 00:22:43,413
Speaker 2: large ones and there's the very skinny ones. But you

509
00:22:43,413 --> 00:22:46,693
Speaker 2: know he wasn't called the word butder is just Sanskrit

510
00:22:46,773 --> 00:22:49,973
Speaker 2: for enlightened one, you know, So he was talking about

511
00:22:49,973 --> 00:22:53,373
Speaker 2: some of the lucky budder anyway. That's that's by the by.

512
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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

513
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Speaker 3: call just what you mentioned before. I mean, you are

514
00:22:58,613 --> 00:23:00,653
Speaker 3: going to get offended if it is true, right, because

515
00:23:00,653 --> 00:23:02,773
Speaker 3: if it's not true, then you're going to laugh off

516
00:23:02,773 --> 00:23:04,853
Speaker 3: someone's friends saying, hey, I think you're drinking too much,

517
00:23:05,093 --> 00:23:07,093
Speaker 3: like get a grap only have a couple of beers

518
00:23:07,133 --> 00:23:10,213
Speaker 3: a week. But the whole reason people get offended is

519
00:23:10,253 --> 00:23:12,453
Speaker 3: because they know deep down that they have put on

520
00:23:12,493 --> 00:23:14,853
Speaker 3: a few pounds or that they are looking a bit unhealthy.

521
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,013
Speaker 3: That's why people get offended.

522
00:23:16,253 --> 00:23:18,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, but I think we're talking about not

523
00:23:18,253 --> 00:23:21,333
Speaker 2: just a few pounds. We're not talking about people. We're

524
00:23:21,333 --> 00:23:23,333
Speaker 2: talking about people that are you are worried that they

525
00:23:23,413 --> 00:23:26,733
Speaker 2: are going to affect their heart health and potentially drop dead,

526
00:23:26,893 --> 00:23:29,413
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about in the intervention. If someone's

527
00:23:29,453 --> 00:23:31,253
Speaker 2: just looking about chubby around the cheeks, then I don't

528
00:23:31,253 --> 00:23:32,973
Speaker 2: know if it's your business as a friend to have

529
00:23:33,013 --> 00:23:33,973
Speaker 2: an intervention on that.

530
00:23:34,253 --> 00:23:36,213
Speaker 3: Oh, eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

531
00:23:36,293 --> 00:23:38,293
Speaker 3: number to call. Plenty of calls to get to it

532
00:23:38,373 --> 00:23:39,653
Speaker 3: is twenty seven to two.

533
00:23:42,573 --> 00:23:43,413
Speaker 4: Jew's talk said.

534
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Speaker 9: The headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with

535
00:23:46,933 --> 00:23:50,493
Speaker 9: a blue bubble. The threatened deportation of an eighteen year

536
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Speaker 9: old born in New Zealand to overstaining parents from India

537
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Speaker 9: is on hold. Daman Kumar says he has no connections

538
00:23:58,253 --> 00:24:02,533
Speaker 9: in India and can't read or speak Punjabi. The Secondary

539
00:24:02,573 --> 00:24:07,333
Speaker 9: Principles Association says Associate Education Minister David Seymour doesn't have

540
00:24:07,373 --> 00:24:11,013
Speaker 9: a mandate to make on teacher only days, but it's

541
00:24:11,093 --> 00:24:17,052
Speaker 9: confident the education ministers communicate frequently. America's Internal Revenue Service

542
00:24:17,133 --> 00:24:20,613
Speaker 9: is preparing to lay off thousands of employees as the

543
00:24:20,653 --> 00:24:23,853
Speaker 9: new administration dramatically shrinks the federal workforce.

544
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Speaker 2: Two people have.

545
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Speaker 9: Serious injuries after a crash between a truck and a

546
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Speaker 9: caravan on State Highway thirty nine in Utahonga and Waikatu.

547
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Speaker 9: The road will be closed near Pukitota for some time.

548
00:24:37,813 --> 00:24:41,013
Speaker 9: Police have made no arrests during a King Country amongrel

549
00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:44,453
Speaker 9: mob reunion in to Maranui that kicked off on Thursday

550
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Speaker 9: and wraps up today. Heavy rain is predicted until nine

551
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552
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555
00:25:03,653 --> 00:25:05,453
Speaker 9: to Matteath and Tyler Adams, thank you.

556
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Speaker 3: Very much, ray Leana. We've asked the question, how do

557
00:25:07,493 --> 00:25:10,453
Speaker 3: you intervene when worried about someone's health, someone that is

558
00:25:10,493 --> 00:25:12,773
Speaker 3: close to you, a family member, a partner or a

559
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Speaker 3: very close friend. Some great tips coming through on nine

560
00:25:16,133 --> 00:25:17,213
Speaker 3: two nine to two.

561
00:25:17,453 --> 00:25:19,493
Speaker 2: Told him, mate, he's in bad shape to go see

562
00:25:19,493 --> 00:25:21,893
Speaker 2: a doctor and make changes. He knows and agreed, but

563
00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:24,413
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything at least like kid enough to talk

564
00:25:24,453 --> 00:25:27,853
Speaker 2: with them. Simon, Yeah, I mean there's only so much

565
00:25:27,893 --> 00:25:31,373
Speaker 2: you can do. Yeah, you know, but yeah, I mean,

566
00:25:31,373 --> 00:25:34,493
Speaker 2: we're really asking about intervening. Should you have a word

567
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:36,173
Speaker 2: to people that you're worried about their health? And how

568
00:25:36,173 --> 00:25:38,413
Speaker 2: do you go about it? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

569
00:25:39,013 --> 00:25:43,933
Speaker 3: Let's go to the phone, Steve. Good afternoon to you, yday, Steve.

570
00:25:44,653 --> 00:25:45,453
Speaker 2: Are you there, Steve?

571
00:25:47,533 --> 00:25:48,573
Speaker 16: Are you looking for Murray?

572
00:25:49,133 --> 00:25:53,093
Speaker 3: Oh? No, oh, sorry, we've got Murray. Here is this Murray?

573
00:25:53,613 --> 00:25:55,013
Speaker 17: Yeah, it looks sounds like it.

574
00:25:55,253 --> 00:25:57,572
Speaker 3: Okay, k hey, Murray, We've got We've got Steve on

575
00:25:57,573 --> 00:25:59,173
Speaker 3: our we board here. But that's all right, how are

576
00:25:59,213 --> 00:25:59,693
Speaker 3: you Murray?

577
00:25:59,693 --> 00:26:02,453
Speaker 2: How board stitched us up with it with Steve popping up,

578
00:26:02,533 --> 00:26:04,653
Speaker 2: but it's clearly Murray, good dy, Murray, welcome to the show.

579
00:26:05,493 --> 00:26:07,813
Speaker 17: Oh no, I'm just going to challenge you mat about

580
00:26:07,853 --> 00:26:11,133
Speaker 17: your fat shaming. But at the same point, that's probably

581
00:26:11,173 --> 00:26:13,333
Speaker 17: half the problem is that people don't want to and

582
00:26:13,493 --> 00:26:15,493
Speaker 17: it's not a very nice thing to look at because

583
00:26:15,493 --> 00:26:19,053
Speaker 17: it's obviously as Sarah's helpersh But my text said that

584
00:26:19,093 --> 00:26:21,573
Speaker 17: I had a mate that actually challenged me about five

585
00:26:21,613 --> 00:26:23,653
Speaker 17: or six years ago, maybe a bit longer, and just said,

586
00:26:23,933 --> 00:26:25,693
Speaker 17: we're out for a walk and he saw you're okay,

587
00:26:25,773 --> 00:26:28,213
Speaker 17: and I said, yeah, I'm fine. Why because I just

588
00:26:28,253 --> 00:26:29,653
Speaker 17: some of the guys at work, and we were all

589
00:26:29,653 --> 00:26:32,493
Speaker 17: shift workers, said had somehow chosen him to come and

590
00:26:32,573 --> 00:26:34,973
Speaker 17: chat to me about about the worry of my health.

591
00:26:35,573 --> 00:26:38,893
Speaker 17: And this called me, as you said, matt oh, a

592
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Speaker 17: happy buddher. When I was growing up, I was the

593
00:26:43,093 --> 00:26:45,013
Speaker 17: race and chardine. You know, I played a heck of

594
00:26:45,053 --> 00:26:47,973
Speaker 17: a lot of sports and just piled it on as

595
00:26:47,973 --> 00:26:50,573
Speaker 17: I got older, and probably about four years ago I

596
00:26:50,573 --> 00:26:53,893
Speaker 17: did something about it, surgically wise and never looked back.

597
00:26:53,973 --> 00:26:57,213
Speaker 17: And so I guess from my perspective now, because I've

598
00:26:57,213 --> 00:26:59,613
Speaker 17: been in that position, I'm all the more less likely

599
00:26:59,653 --> 00:27:01,933
Speaker 17: to say anything or to judge anyone for it.

600
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Speaker 3: And when you say surgery, murray, what what did you do?

601
00:27:07,253 --> 00:27:09,573
Speaker 3: Was it a gastric band or what was the surgery?

602
00:27:09,893 --> 00:27:12,773
Speaker 17: No, it's called a it's more of a rarer one.

603
00:27:12,813 --> 00:27:15,173
Speaker 17: It's called a jurdnal switch. What they call a DS.

604
00:27:15,173 --> 00:27:17,453
Speaker 17: It's basically I don't know how to describe it.

605
00:27:17,453 --> 00:27:17,973
Speaker 11: I'll just call it.

606
00:27:18,013 --> 00:27:21,733
Speaker 2: I got replumbed, right, right, and that's been and that's

607
00:27:21,733 --> 00:27:22,453
Speaker 2: been successful.

608
00:27:23,493 --> 00:27:26,253
Speaker 17: Yeah, I went from I was I've been lower than

609
00:27:26,293 --> 00:27:29,173
Speaker 17: I am now, but certainly I'm sitting at a loss

610
00:27:29,173 --> 00:27:30,413
Speaker 17: of about forty kilos.

611
00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:34,853
Speaker 3: That's pretty incredible. Is it less invasive than the gastric band?

612
00:27:34,893 --> 00:27:35,173
Speaker 7: Is it?

613
00:27:36,013 --> 00:27:36,493
Speaker 13: Probably?

614
00:27:36,613 --> 00:27:38,893
Speaker 17: It's probably the more longer of the ones, and it's

615
00:27:38,893 --> 00:27:40,693
Speaker 17: probably the one where they don't do it so often.

616
00:27:40,733 --> 00:27:44,573
Speaker 17: And I'm very lucky it was done publicly for me.

617
00:27:44,693 --> 00:27:46,693
Speaker 17: And that was obviously because of my health. I've got

618
00:27:46,733 --> 00:27:50,693
Speaker 17: myself two diabetes now I call it my own lifestyle choices.

619
00:27:50,733 --> 00:27:51,653
Speaker 18: That was what caused it.

620
00:27:51,773 --> 00:27:54,173
Speaker 17: So I went and saw my doctor, got referred. Very

621
00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:56,013
Speaker 17: lucky to be on the health on the public system.

622
00:27:56,053 --> 00:27:59,013
Speaker 17: And I have to say there's actually a really good

623
00:27:59,613 --> 00:28:02,013
Speaker 17: page that I belong to and it's called Skinny Buggers

624
00:28:02,213 --> 00:28:05,693
Speaker 17: and it's blokes that have had the surgery. And yeah,

625
00:28:05,773 --> 00:28:07,813
Speaker 17: I can say that some of the conversations that are

626
00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:11,413
Speaker 17: dan on about things and we're never shy from telling

627
00:28:11,453 --> 00:28:14,453
Speaker 17: each other, you know, we're giving each other's thoughts that

628
00:28:14,533 --> 00:28:18,453
Speaker 17: we don't judge, and it's been doom and fantastic at you.

629
00:28:18,533 --> 00:28:21,173
Speaker 17: It's a great page chatter. And there might even be

630
00:28:21,173 --> 00:28:22,853
Speaker 17: people from that page listing on the radio.

631
00:28:23,413 --> 00:28:27,253
Speaker 2: So when your friend approached you did did you immediately

632
00:28:27,253 --> 00:28:30,973
Speaker 2: take it on board or were you you offended out

633
00:28:31,013 --> 00:28:34,573
Speaker 2: the gate or and and how did he approach you exactly?

634
00:28:34,653 --> 00:28:36,653
Speaker 2: Because I obviously worked with you, so we got it

635
00:28:36,773 --> 00:28:37,893
Speaker 2: right for you anyway.

636
00:28:38,653 --> 00:28:40,293
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean I knew it. I knew it already.

637
00:28:40,333 --> 00:28:42,373
Speaker 17: I was probably I wasn't quite at my heaviest, but

638
00:28:42,453 --> 00:28:44,453
Speaker 17: I knew it already. And we just happened to be

639
00:28:44,533 --> 00:28:47,333
Speaker 17: up one of our regular walks and he just said,

640
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:49,253
Speaker 17: hey mate, They said, I'm you know, the guys at

641
00:28:49,253 --> 00:28:51,333
Speaker 17: work are pretty worried about you everything okay, you know,

642
00:28:51,413 --> 00:28:53,053
Speaker 17: with your weight. And I just said, yeah, I said,

643
00:28:53,093 --> 00:28:55,973
Speaker 17: I know, I know it. I said, I actually thanked him.

644
00:28:55,973 --> 00:28:57,693
Speaker 17: I said, I appreciate the fact you've been honest enough

645
00:28:57,693 --> 00:28:59,213
Speaker 17: to talk to me. I said, it's better than having

646
00:28:59,453 --> 00:29:00,813
Speaker 17: been talked about it behind my back.

647
00:29:01,773 --> 00:29:05,573
Speaker 2: So dream results, absolute, absolute dream result for him, because

648
00:29:05,613 --> 00:29:09,813
Speaker 2: he was probably really nervous bringing it up and probably

649
00:29:09,933 --> 00:29:12,373
Speaker 2: sort of built himself up to doing it and then

650
00:29:12,493 --> 00:29:15,013
Speaker 2: said it. And to get such a good response from

651
00:29:15,013 --> 00:29:16,493
Speaker 2: from you, he would have been started.

652
00:29:17,653 --> 00:29:18,813
Speaker 19: Well, yeah, and it was.

653
00:29:18,933 --> 00:29:21,213
Speaker 17: And the biddy was that it took me. It was another

654
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Speaker 17: probably four Well, it's going to have to be probably

655
00:29:24,053 --> 00:29:25,893
Speaker 17: eight years ago now, it's going to be because he's

656
00:29:26,493 --> 00:29:28,253
Speaker 17: in fact, you know, something's longer than that because he

657
00:29:28,373 --> 00:29:29,893
Speaker 17: I was still working with him at the time, So

658
00:29:29,933 --> 00:29:32,413
Speaker 17: it's been over ten years. It took me six years

659
00:29:32,413 --> 00:29:35,253
Speaker 17: to get my bavovial together to actually do something about it.

660
00:29:37,053 --> 00:29:40,053
Speaker 17: But you know, the outcome is fantastic and people say

661
00:29:40,093 --> 00:29:43,053
Speaker 17: how it's really positive. You get really good comments about

662
00:29:43,053 --> 00:29:43,613
Speaker 17: how you look now.

663
00:29:43,653 --> 00:29:45,093
Speaker 13: But you think, and.

664
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Speaker 17: That's why, I guess I'm just completely unjudgmental because I

665
00:29:49,013 --> 00:29:52,373
Speaker 17: know what people who are bigger, what some of them,

666
00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:54,493
Speaker 17: the reasons why they are, and it's a lot of

667
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:58,693
Speaker 17: it's psychological and it's yeah, there's there's historical reasons why.

668
00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:01,813
Speaker 17: And I guess that's for the old The old judgment

669
00:30:01,853 --> 00:30:04,413
Speaker 17: comes in and I'm so unjudgmental. I just look and go, yep,

670
00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:06,133
Speaker 17: been there and done that. I know exactly what it

671
00:30:06,173 --> 00:30:06,653
Speaker 17: must be like.

672
00:30:06,933 --> 00:30:10,253
Speaker 3: Yeah. So when your mate first challenger that said I'm

673
00:30:10,293 --> 00:30:13,413
Speaker 3: worried about your your your pretty overweight, and I'm worried

674
00:30:13,453 --> 00:30:16,333
Speaker 3: about your health. At what points then did you go

675
00:30:16,453 --> 00:30:18,853
Speaker 3: to the GP and start that process of getting surgery.

676
00:30:18,933 --> 00:30:20,573
Speaker 3: I take it there must have been pretty daunting for

677
00:30:20,613 --> 00:30:21,493
Speaker 3: you originally.

678
00:30:22,013 --> 00:30:22,613
Speaker 4: Well, it was.

679
00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:25,933
Speaker 17: It was it was about Charles, it was about five

680
00:30:26,013 --> 00:30:29,733
Speaker 17: years that it was about eighteen months, just over a

681
00:30:29,773 --> 00:30:31,573
Speaker 17: year before I had my surgery. So my surgery was

682
00:30:31,613 --> 00:30:35,733
Speaker 17: in September twenty twenty, and I went and saw my

683
00:30:35,853 --> 00:30:37,933
Speaker 17: GP in twenty nineteen. So it was a number of

684
00:30:38,013 --> 00:30:40,773
Speaker 17: years after he'd spoken to me. But it's still stuck

685
00:30:40,813 --> 00:30:42,693
Speaker 17: in my mind, and quite clearly it's still stuck in

686
00:30:42,733 --> 00:30:44,373
Speaker 17: my mind now enough for me to make the comment

687
00:30:44,453 --> 00:30:46,493
Speaker 17: to you guys about you know, the fact that he

688
00:30:46,853 --> 00:30:48,293
Speaker 17: had taken that step to speak to me.

689
00:30:48,853 --> 00:30:50,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, well, good on you, Good on you for

690
00:30:50,693 --> 00:30:52,653
Speaker 2: doing something about it, and good to hear that you

691
00:30:52,933 --> 00:30:54,133
Speaker 2: your you're healthy. Murray.

692
00:30:54,973 --> 00:30:57,853
Speaker 17: Yeah, thanks very much, and madam must stay. I've watched

693
00:30:57,853 --> 00:30:59,613
Speaker 17: some of the programs you used to be involved in.

694
00:30:59,693 --> 00:31:03,133
Speaker 2: Classics Shocking Classics.

695
00:31:03,613 --> 00:31:06,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves that, Murray, Thank you very much. A

696
00:31:06,133 --> 00:31:08,213
Speaker 3: great call. Oh, eight hundred and eighty. Teen eighty is

697
00:31:08,453 --> 00:31:10,733
Speaker 3: the number to call love to hear your story if

698
00:31:10,773 --> 00:31:14,453
Speaker 3: you've intervened yourself or have been on the flip side

699
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:16,293
Speaker 3: as Murray had, that someone came up to you and

700
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,693
Speaker 3: said I'm worried about your health. Nine to nine too

701
00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:21,133
Speaker 3: is the text number. It is sixteen to two.

702
00:31:22,013 --> 00:31:25,653
Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

703
00:31:25,653 --> 00:31:29,253
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matten Tyler Afternoon with the Volvo XC

704
00:31:29,373 --> 00:31:33,173
Speaker 1: ninety tick in every box, a seamless experience awaits.

705
00:31:32,853 --> 00:31:37,533
Speaker 3: News Talks B, News Talk zed B. We've asked the question,

706
00:31:37,653 --> 00:31:40,373
Speaker 3: when have you had to intervene when you're worried about

707
00:31:40,413 --> 00:31:42,693
Speaker 3: someone's health? One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

708
00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:43,333
Speaker 3: number to call.

709
00:31:44,093 --> 00:31:48,653
Speaker 2: Mandy, Welcome to the sordoy. I understand that you had

710
00:31:49,013 --> 00:31:50,693
Speaker 2: you have a friend that you helped out.

711
00:31:52,373 --> 00:31:56,733
Speaker 6: Ah, yes, I probably would say more like a motivator

712
00:31:58,413 --> 00:32:03,733
Speaker 6: for this friend of mine. I met her about five

713
00:32:03,813 --> 00:32:07,293
Speaker 6: or six years ago with a PLUCKT playgroup. Since then,

714
00:32:09,493 --> 00:32:16,373
Speaker 6: she was about in the one hundred, probably one, and

715
00:32:18,133 --> 00:32:20,253
Speaker 6: I was kind of walking everywhere at the time. I

716
00:32:20,293 --> 00:32:25,013
Speaker 6: didn't have a car and I had house issues myself.

717
00:32:25,053 --> 00:32:28,813
Speaker 6: I was in my hundreds as well. I'm currently I

718
00:32:28,853 --> 00:32:30,813
Speaker 6: was about to find one hundred and forty eight back then,

719
00:32:30,853 --> 00:32:32,893
Speaker 6: but I'm currently now ninety three.

720
00:32:33,093 --> 00:32:34,733
Speaker 2: Can WOWT work.

721
00:32:36,813 --> 00:32:40,253
Speaker 6: But with my friend, she at the time, I had

722
00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:44,853
Speaker 6: already lost some weights when I had met her, So

723
00:32:44,893 --> 00:32:48,413
Speaker 6: we started hanging out and stuff, and so then I

724
00:32:48,533 --> 00:32:51,093
Speaker 6: was walking to her house quite a lot, and she's

725
00:32:51,253 --> 00:32:54,093
Speaker 6: there's quite a big steep hill that goes up to

726
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:56,613
Speaker 6: her place, and I used to walk up that hill

727
00:32:56,653 --> 00:32:59,413
Speaker 6: all the time. And then I did that for a

728
00:32:59,413 --> 00:33:02,653
Speaker 6: couple of times and then one visit. There was one

729
00:33:02,653 --> 00:33:05,573
Speaker 6: time I didn't visit her for a while, and maybe

730
00:33:05,613 --> 00:33:07,533
Speaker 6: for about three or four months, I didn't see her

731
00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:11,173
Speaker 6: because we were so as with the mums as we are.

732
00:33:13,253 --> 00:33:15,733
Speaker 6: So I get a call from her and like three

733
00:33:15,733 --> 00:33:18,573
Speaker 6: months later, and she said if we wanted to meet

734
00:33:18,653 --> 00:33:21,533
Speaker 6: up somewhere. So we met up. And then when I

735
00:33:21,613 --> 00:33:25,773
Speaker 6: met her, she had lost so much weight, and I

736
00:33:25,813 --> 00:33:28,613
Speaker 6: thought to myself, oh, I must have I must have

737
00:33:28,733 --> 00:33:30,813
Speaker 6: motivated her in some way or something. I don't know,

738
00:33:30,933 --> 00:33:33,933
Speaker 6: but she was so happy. She looked really happy, and

739
00:33:33,973 --> 00:33:36,933
Speaker 6: she told me she changed her diet and she had.

740
00:33:38,573 --> 00:33:40,533
Speaker 6: She told me I kind of motivated her in a

741
00:33:40,573 --> 00:33:43,173
Speaker 6: way to get out there and walk, you know, go

742
00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:46,693
Speaker 6: for walks for her own house because she was having

743
00:33:46,773 --> 00:33:50,933
Speaker 6: some health issues. And I won't speak about it online.

744
00:33:51,453 --> 00:33:56,493
Speaker 6: I just wanted to say that it's good to motivate people,

745
00:33:56,653 --> 00:33:58,853
Speaker 6: you know, just or even asked them, would you like

746
00:33:58,893 --> 00:34:01,253
Speaker 6: to go for a walk or just thought a walking group,

747
00:34:01,533 --> 00:34:04,373
Speaker 6: you know, put it online and just ask someone and

748
00:34:04,693 --> 00:34:06,213
Speaker 6: they want to come to walk with them, you know.

749
00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:08,733
Speaker 2: And if you are, you know, having your own struggles

750
00:34:08,733 --> 00:34:11,373
Speaker 2: and they're similar to the other person's and you come

751
00:34:11,453 --> 00:34:13,933
Speaker 2: up to them, that's kind of a good that that's

752
00:34:13,973 --> 00:34:16,133
Speaker 2: an even more even keel because you know you can

753
00:34:16,133 --> 00:34:18,813
Speaker 2: both go, well, look, we've both got this thing. Maybe

754
00:34:18,853 --> 00:34:21,133
Speaker 2: we can help each other out. As opposed to someone

755
00:34:21,133 --> 00:34:24,173
Speaker 2: that doesn't have the problem coming up and hastling, you

756
00:34:24,213 --> 00:34:26,893
Speaker 2: could could have a different, different result. So are you

757
00:34:27,013 --> 00:34:28,453
Speaker 2: are you guys still still friends?

758
00:34:29,333 --> 00:34:31,653
Speaker 6: Yes, we're still friends. And she's right down to seventy

759
00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:32,733
Speaker 6: two kilos now.

760
00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:35,413
Speaker 2: H wow, wow, So she did you say that she

761
00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:37,493
Speaker 2: was she was at did you say she was up

762
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:38,333
Speaker 2: one forty.

763
00:34:38,893 --> 00:34:40,773
Speaker 6: Yes, she was about one hundred and forty eight.

764
00:34:41,093 --> 00:34:42,693
Speaker 2: So she's lost half of bodyway.

765
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:46,333
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's right down to seventy two. And because she's

766
00:34:46,373 --> 00:34:50,212
Speaker 6: done all the walking and she changed her diets cut

767
00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:52,093
Speaker 6: out all the bad stuff, you know, all the sugar

768
00:34:52,213 --> 00:34:54,333
Speaker 6: and stuff we shouldn't be eating that. You know, we

769
00:34:54,413 --> 00:34:56,172
Speaker 6: can eat that stuff, but we've just.

770
00:34:56,093 --> 00:34:59,373
Speaker 3: Got a limited Yeah, that is incredible. How much walking

771
00:34:59,373 --> 00:35:00,333
Speaker 3: were you doing per week.

772
00:35:00,453 --> 00:35:04,253
Speaker 6: Roughly, Mandy, I was walking because we've got a few

773
00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:08,173
Speaker 6: walking reserves down here where I usually go down a

774
00:35:08,173 --> 00:35:11,253
Speaker 6: be three times a week, and I met the gym now,

775
00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:13,333
Speaker 6: so I go to the gym about three times a

776
00:35:13,373 --> 00:35:18,493
Speaker 6: week and then I do some walking as well. But

777
00:35:18,573 --> 00:35:21,173
Speaker 6: it really helps with your mental health as well, you know,

778
00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:23,333
Speaker 6: get out there and walk it out, you you know,

779
00:35:23,453 --> 00:35:26,613
Speaker 6: put earphones off, listen to music, what ifs that will

780
00:35:26,733 --> 00:35:30,293
Speaker 6: calm your bike, and like strengthen your your soul or whatever,

781
00:35:30,413 --> 00:35:33,493
Speaker 6: you know, just to get everything off your chest and stuff.

782
00:35:33,533 --> 00:35:38,013
Speaker 6: That helps for me be motivated. I love to motivate people.

783
00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:41,253
Speaker 6: I've motivated my neighbors. I go with my neighbors to

784
00:35:41,293 --> 00:35:43,733
Speaker 6: the gym. Sometimes I've gotten her into the gym with me.

785
00:35:43,813 --> 00:35:47,333
Speaker 6: I just asked him, you just asked I asked of me,

786
00:35:47,413 --> 00:35:47,652
Speaker 6: you know.

787
00:35:47,693 --> 00:35:48,293
Speaker 16: Do you want to join?

788
00:35:49,413 --> 00:35:51,533
Speaker 2: That's potentially a better way than doing it. Then they

789
00:35:51,613 --> 00:35:54,573
Speaker 2: straight up intervention. Yeah, what you're going is you're offering

790
00:35:54,613 --> 00:35:56,373
Speaker 2: them a solution that you can help them with.

791
00:35:56,653 --> 00:36:00,613
Speaker 6: They see me walking quite a lot, so they actually

792
00:36:00,653 --> 00:36:02,213
Speaker 6: come up to me and sometimes you will come up

793
00:36:02,253 --> 00:36:04,373
Speaker 6: to me and going, you know, you want quite a lot,

794
00:36:04,413 --> 00:36:06,013
Speaker 6: And I'm like yeah, yes, you know, do you want

795
00:36:06,013 --> 00:36:07,173
Speaker 6: to come up here? Do you want to join me?

796
00:36:07,293 --> 00:36:08,973
Speaker 6: So you know, that's how I should be start the

797
00:36:09,013 --> 00:36:12,133
Speaker 6: conversational list, you know, if I want to motivate others

798
00:36:12,293 --> 00:36:14,573
Speaker 6: and try and help others to get out there, and

799
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,933
Speaker 6: there's an exercise you know, for their own well and

800
00:36:17,973 --> 00:36:18,413
Speaker 6: their house.

801
00:36:21,333 --> 00:36:23,453
Speaker 3: Mandy, thank you so much for your call and go well, yeah,

802
00:36:23,653 --> 00:36:25,373
Speaker 3: that is that is you know quite often what it's

803
00:36:25,373 --> 00:36:27,893
Speaker 3: about riders to say, it's not shaming people to say, hey,

804
00:36:28,613 --> 00:36:30,293
Speaker 3: should we go out for a bike ride this weekend

805
00:36:30,453 --> 00:36:32,253
Speaker 3: or let's still a bit of a challenge that we're

806
00:36:32,253 --> 00:36:35,493
Speaker 3: going to smash every hill in mountain in Auckland over

807
00:36:35,533 --> 00:36:37,573
Speaker 3: the space of six months, rather than say, hey, you're

808
00:36:37,613 --> 00:36:38,533
Speaker 3: Tyler a bit chunky.

809
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:40,413
Speaker 2: Well what about I did this to you, Tyler over

810
00:36:40,413 --> 00:36:42,573
Speaker 2: the holiday break. I said, let's enter a competition to

811
00:36:42,613 --> 00:36:45,652
Speaker 2: see if we can come back having lost the weight

812
00:36:45,693 --> 00:36:46,293
Speaker 2: over the break.

813
00:36:46,373 --> 00:36:49,093
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I think I you put on.

814
00:36:49,053 --> 00:36:50,893
Speaker 2: You put on weight, but I lost weight, so did

815
00:36:50,933 --> 00:36:51,533
Speaker 2: I did my best?

816
00:36:51,613 --> 00:36:54,573
Speaker 3: It was worth a shot eighty eight. And all I

817
00:36:54,573 --> 00:36:56,933
Speaker 3: can do is the number to call. Nineteen ninety two

818
00:36:57,413 --> 00:36:59,212
Speaker 3: is the text number. It is eight to two.

819
00:37:00,493 --> 00:37:04,133
Speaker 1: Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

820
00:37:04,133 --> 00:37:07,213
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Tayler afternoons with the Volvo

821
00:37:07,493 --> 00:37:11,853
Speaker 1: XC ninety. Every box a seamless experience awaits news.

822
00:37:11,613 --> 00:37:12,173
Speaker 2: Dogs, be.

823
00:37:14,333 --> 00:37:16,652
Speaker 3: Newstorgs ad be good afternoon, Paul.

824
00:37:17,613 --> 00:37:20,053
Speaker 2: Paul, you had a total stranger intervene in your life.

825
00:37:21,293 --> 00:37:24,093
Speaker 20: Yes, my wife was Wellington Airport waiting for a flight.

826
00:37:24,653 --> 00:37:27,893
Speaker 20: Total stranger came up to a woman, pointed to her

827
00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:32,053
Speaker 20: left arm, tiny couple of metal meter large spot and

828
00:37:32,173 --> 00:37:35,333
Speaker 20: just said you should get that looked at. She came home,

829
00:37:35,973 --> 00:37:39,493
Speaker 20: she went to the doctor. They decided to do a biopsy.

830
00:37:40,013 --> 00:37:41,453
Speaker 20: Turned out of the skin cancer.

831
00:37:41,693 --> 00:37:46,413
Speaker 2: Wow. So was this person an expert with a dermatologist

832
00:37:46,573 --> 00:37:48,573
Speaker 2: or just a regular.

833
00:37:50,013 --> 00:37:53,813
Speaker 20: She didn't identify herself. She was a total stranger. This

834
00:37:54,093 --> 00:37:56,252
Speaker 20: spot was you could hardly see it. There's a couple

835
00:37:56,333 --> 00:37:57,613
Speaker 20: of medimeters in size.

836
00:37:58,053 --> 00:37:58,292
Speaker 2: Wow.

837
00:37:58,333 --> 00:37:58,533
Speaker 8: Wow.

838
00:37:58,653 --> 00:38:00,453
Speaker 3: So you don't know who this woman is. She just

839
00:38:00,493 --> 00:38:02,853
Speaker 3: came up and sent to your wife, I'd get there, check,

840
00:38:02,853 --> 00:38:04,093
Speaker 3: devise you and keep on walking.

841
00:38:04,893 --> 00:38:07,493
Speaker 16: Yep, exactly, that's exactly how it happened.

842
00:38:09,573 --> 00:38:10,453
Speaker 3: It is incredible.

843
00:38:10,573 --> 00:38:12,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if that person is and I wonder

844
00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:14,573
Speaker 2: if you were a dermatologist that you'd walk around just

845
00:38:14,613 --> 00:38:16,973
Speaker 2: seeing moles that were of an interesting You.

846
00:38:16,893 --> 00:38:21,053
Speaker 20: Know, she wasn't following her arm around. She must have

847
00:38:21,093 --> 00:38:22,333
Speaker 20: seen her for some distance.

848
00:38:22,653 --> 00:38:27,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'd done a feel scanned. There's something that's quite

849
00:38:27,693 --> 00:38:29,653
Speaker 2: creepy about it. But it was a fantastic result.

850
00:38:31,253 --> 00:38:33,333
Speaker 20: She had a chunk out of her arm to make

851
00:38:33,373 --> 00:38:35,453
Speaker 20: sure they got rid of the cancer, which they had,

852
00:38:36,093 --> 00:38:37,453
Speaker 20: and that was it.

853
00:38:37,093 --> 00:38:39,733
Speaker 2: Was It was there an information about how how quickly

854
00:38:39,733 --> 00:38:42,813
Speaker 2: that could have gone bad if she hadn't had it

855
00:38:42,853 --> 00:38:43,252
Speaker 2: cut out.

856
00:38:44,573 --> 00:38:47,453
Speaker 20: Yes, it could have got bad because there was nothing

857
00:38:47,613 --> 00:38:50,533
Speaker 20: to it. It was like a little spot. It would

858
00:38:50,573 --> 00:38:53,133
Speaker 20: never have never any pain or anything at all, so

859
00:38:53,573 --> 00:38:54,973
Speaker 20: it could have got that.

860
00:38:54,973 --> 00:38:58,413
Speaker 2: That's a fantastic intervention. I'm so glad that happened to

861
00:38:58,453 --> 00:39:00,093
Speaker 2: you and your wife. Paul thinks so much for your call.

862
00:39:00,413 --> 00:39:03,613
Speaker 3: What a story to in that conversation, and it was

863
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,732
Speaker 3: a great conversation. But men mentioned that some stranger. I mean, look,

864
00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:10,253
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it a cliche, but the

865
00:39:10,293 --> 00:39:12,493
Speaker 3: Guardian Angel really isn't it to come up to you

866
00:39:12,533 --> 00:39:15,053
Speaker 3: and say, better get that checked, see you later. I'm

867
00:39:15,093 --> 00:39:16,413
Speaker 3: not going to leave my name and boom.

868
00:39:16,493 --> 00:39:18,053
Speaker 2: Well, my ex came up to me the other day

869
00:39:18,093 --> 00:39:19,973
Speaker 2: we were having dinner and said, there's a weird thing

870
00:39:19,973 --> 00:39:22,853
Speaker 2: on your head that's changed. Let's growth on my head. Yep,

871
00:39:22,973 --> 00:39:25,053
Speaker 2: that wasn't really growth. And because she hadn't seen me

872
00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:26,413
Speaker 2: for a while, she goes, that's changed. You should get

873
00:39:26,413 --> 00:39:26,893
Speaker 2: it checked out.

874
00:39:26,933 --> 00:39:27,493
Speaker 4: Is that all right?

875
00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:28,253
Speaker 2: Is it a right?

876
00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:28,533
Speaker 3: Yeah?

877
00:39:28,533 --> 00:39:29,813
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pick it off with my finger.

878
00:39:31,373 --> 00:39:35,773
Speaker 3: Right, good discussion. After two o'clock, let's discuss the price

879
00:39:35,853 --> 00:39:38,053
Speaker 3: of a pint in New Zealand. Oh eight hundred and

880
00:39:38,213 --> 00:39:39,973
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is and number to call nine two

881
00:39:40,053 --> 00:39:42,813
Speaker 3: nine tour is the text number, News, sport and weather

882
00:39:42,893 --> 00:39:43,533
Speaker 3: on its way.

883
00:39:46,293 --> 00:39:47,933
Speaker 4: It is beautiful, sees it?

884
00:39:48,053 --> 00:39:59,773
Speaker 3: Oh, news talks. It'd be very very good afternoon to you.

885
00:39:59,893 --> 00:40:02,652
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. It is Monday. In great

886
00:40:02,653 --> 00:40:05,692
Speaker 3: discussion last hour. We're going to change tech over the

887
00:40:05,773 --> 00:40:07,573
Speaker 3: next fifteen minutes or so. We want to talk about

888
00:40:07,613 --> 00:40:10,413
Speaker 3: the price pints. Now this is on the back of

889
00:40:10,453 --> 00:40:13,933
Speaker 3: you may or may not have seen this story. Nick Inkster.

890
00:40:14,093 --> 00:40:17,213
Speaker 3: He's a very successful publican down in christ Church. He

891
00:40:18,213 --> 00:40:20,613
Speaker 3: owns I believe three or four pubs, but he does

892
00:40:20,653 --> 00:40:23,933
Speaker 3: extremely well and a very tough market for hospitality over

893
00:40:23,933 --> 00:40:26,053
Speaker 3: the past couple of years. But he got a little

894
00:40:26,053 --> 00:40:31,253
Speaker 3: bit of stick for charging sixteen dollars for a pint

895
00:40:31,333 --> 00:40:33,853
Speaker 3: of pretty nice beer. You've got to say, but here's

896
00:40:33,893 --> 00:40:36,373
Speaker 3: a little bit of what he said to Mike Costkien

897
00:40:36,573 --> 00:40:37,133
Speaker 3: this morning.

898
00:40:37,253 --> 00:40:39,613
Speaker 10: So this is easily sold a pint. I thought it

899
00:40:39,653 --> 00:40:41,373
Speaker 10: was six hundred myself because of Britain.

900
00:40:41,533 --> 00:40:41,893
Speaker 4: Correct.

901
00:40:42,093 --> 00:40:43,893
Speaker 21: I grew up drinking pints of milk, which is six

902
00:40:43,933 --> 00:40:46,133
Speaker 21: hundred milk, right, So a pint of beer has always

903
00:40:46,173 --> 00:40:47,933
Speaker 21: been a little bit less at five to seventy five,

904
00:40:48,453 --> 00:40:51,013
Speaker 21: and that's the point we sell and to get GP

905
00:40:51,133 --> 00:40:53,293
Speaker 21: on that, it's got to be sixteen dollars exactly.

906
00:40:53,693 --> 00:40:56,213
Speaker 10: And then having said that, so you would know that,

907
00:40:56,213 --> 00:40:59,213
Speaker 10: wouldn't you, because five to seventy five is materially different

908
00:40:59,733 --> 00:41:01,813
Speaker 10: from four to twenty five in terms of size and

909
00:41:01,853 --> 00:41:02,973
Speaker 10: weight and what you get.

910
00:41:03,613 --> 00:41:06,333
Speaker 21: I hear more people injured about getting the four twenty

911
00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:08,053
Speaker 21: five and saying this is not a pint, but then

912
00:41:08,573 --> 00:41:10,933
Speaker 21: they're paying twelve dollars, so they're just thinking they're getting

913
00:41:10,893 --> 00:41:12,292
Speaker 21: a better deal, but it's actually the same.

914
00:41:12,333 --> 00:41:14,652
Speaker 10: It's like to like, so you're five seventy five at

915
00:41:14,693 --> 00:41:16,652
Speaker 10: sixteen is the same at four to twenty five, and

916
00:41:16,693 --> 00:41:20,573
Speaker 10: whatever it is correct meals per buck. It's exactly the

917
00:41:20,613 --> 00:41:21,413
Speaker 10: same price.

918
00:41:21,533 --> 00:41:22,293
Speaker 4: Exactly the same.

919
00:41:22,373 --> 00:41:24,533
Speaker 21: You're giving them a smaller pint. And the pints are

920
00:41:24,613 --> 00:41:26,853
Speaker 21: quite clever today, like they do look like a pint

921
00:41:26,933 --> 00:41:29,973
Speaker 21: that they're actually one hundred milli less and they're able

922
00:41:29,973 --> 00:41:32,652
Speaker 21: to charge your twelve thirteen dollars. So consumer thinks they

923
00:41:32,853 --> 00:41:35,573
Speaker 21: are paying a reasonable price or a pint, but actually

924
00:41:36,013 --> 00:41:37,212
Speaker 21: it's not a pint of beer.

925
00:41:37,973 --> 00:41:40,453
Speaker 3: So good on them for calling that out because for

926
00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:43,053
Speaker 3: too long we've just accepted that when you ask for

927
00:41:43,093 --> 00:41:46,133
Speaker 3: a pint, you're going to get a volume of beer.

928
00:41:46,173 --> 00:41:48,732
Speaker 3: That is going to change between a pub to pub

929
00:41:48,853 --> 00:41:50,853
Speaker 3: because quite often when you ask for a pint, what

930
00:41:50,893 --> 00:41:51,853
Speaker 3: you get is a handle.

931
00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:53,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, can they call that a pint? So when you

932
00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:55,973
Speaker 2: ask for a pint, people just take it as from

933
00:41:55,973 --> 00:41:58,373
Speaker 2: the tap, don't they. Whatever size, they're going to pour

934
00:41:58,373 --> 00:42:00,613
Speaker 2: it out from the tap and it's for twenty five

935
00:42:00,653 --> 00:42:03,172
Speaker 2: meals and you pay whatever you pay called a lot

936
00:42:03,173 --> 00:42:05,853
Speaker 2: twelve dollars. Yeah, but yeah, if you ask for a pint,

937
00:42:05,893 --> 00:42:08,732
Speaker 2: you should get roughly six hundred mels like the old

938
00:42:08,773 --> 00:42:11,893
Speaker 2: milk bottle. Yeah, and you do overseas, anyone that spent

939
00:42:11,933 --> 00:42:15,493
Speaker 2: time in London, I mean in England, Well, you know

940
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:17,173
Speaker 2: they've got laws there. A pint is a pint, so

941
00:42:17,173 --> 00:42:18,493
Speaker 2: you get a pint and a half pint and that's

942
00:42:18,533 --> 00:42:21,093
Speaker 2: six hundred meals and they're phuge. Well five twenty five

943
00:42:21,293 --> 00:42:26,213
Speaker 2: seventy five. For some reason a pint and beer is

944
00:42:27,053 --> 00:42:29,373
Speaker 2: considered five seventy five, not six hundred.

945
00:42:29,253 --> 00:42:32,293
Speaker 3: And that's a lot of beer, seventy five mil so

946
00:42:32,373 --> 00:42:35,533
Speaker 3: a proper UK pint, that is. You know you're gonna

947
00:42:35,573 --> 00:42:37,413
Speaker 3: have a good time if you have a couple of those.

948
00:42:37,733 --> 00:42:39,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as I was saying before. When I

949
00:42:39,733 --> 00:42:41,933
Speaker 2: first got a job over in the UK, I had

950
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:44,613
Speaker 2: this boss and he was from Birmingham and he'd take

951
00:42:44,693 --> 00:42:45,933
Speaker 2: us out for lunch and you had to have three

952
00:42:45,973 --> 00:42:48,613
Speaker 2: pints with lunch and I couldn't keep through them. And

953
00:42:48,653 --> 00:42:52,053
Speaker 2: he used to call me the kiwi p word, and

954
00:42:52,053 --> 00:42:53,733
Speaker 2: he said that you guys can't handle it and so,

955
00:42:53,893 --> 00:42:56,373
Speaker 2: but he'd keep a record of the points I hadn't drunk,

956
00:42:57,373 --> 00:42:59,533
Speaker 2: how many pints I was behind the other workers at

957
00:42:59,573 --> 00:43:01,693
Speaker 2: this place, and he'd make me come on the weekend

958
00:43:01,733 --> 00:43:02,493
Speaker 2: and drink my pints.

959
00:43:02,573 --> 00:43:04,693
Speaker 3: It's the opposite of what most publicans would do to

960
00:43:04,733 --> 00:43:06,613
Speaker 3: They say, like, what do you owe me now, met Heath,

961
00:43:06,613 --> 00:43:09,213
Speaker 3: because you've been smashing the pints back, pave the pints

962
00:43:09,213 --> 00:43:10,292
Speaker 3: and he goes the other way around.

963
00:43:10,373 --> 00:43:12,373
Speaker 2: He put this list on the wall. My boss. He

964
00:43:12,453 --> 00:43:14,652
Speaker 2: was like, Matt is three pints behind for the week.

965
00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:16,133
Speaker 2: He's going to have to come in and meet me

966
00:43:16,173 --> 00:43:17,173
Speaker 2: for a drunk on Sunday.

967
00:43:17,293 --> 00:43:18,573
Speaker 3: More lunch beers please, man.

968
00:43:18,733 --> 00:43:21,013
Speaker 2: Anyway, there are a lot and like people have worked

969
00:43:21,013 --> 00:43:22,933
Speaker 2: over the UK, they seem to have the ability to

970
00:43:23,013 --> 00:43:24,933
Speaker 2: go back to work after three points at lunch and

971
00:43:24,973 --> 00:43:27,533
Speaker 2: do something productive, which I didn't actually, to be honest,

972
00:43:27,533 --> 00:43:29,293
Speaker 2: they don't have the ability to do that, but they

973
00:43:29,293 --> 00:43:31,293
Speaker 2: didn't have the same motivation as I did, as being

974
00:43:31,333 --> 00:43:32,732
Speaker 2: a young key we trying to make it over there.

975
00:43:33,213 --> 00:43:35,013
Speaker 3: But it's all this story. I never thought about it

976
00:43:35,053 --> 00:43:37,213
Speaker 3: that you you ask for a pint or a handle,

977
00:43:37,253 --> 00:43:38,933
Speaker 3: you just get what you get. And quite often it

978
00:43:39,013 --> 00:43:41,133
Speaker 3: is just a turn of phrase in New Zealand. You

979
00:43:41,213 --> 00:43:42,652
Speaker 3: ask for a pint and you're going to get a

980
00:43:42,653 --> 00:43:44,853
Speaker 3: handle back. But the more I think about it, the

981
00:43:44,853 --> 00:43:47,013
Speaker 3: more I would like to see pubs just put down

982
00:43:47,453 --> 00:43:49,652
Speaker 3: how much Miller beer you're going to get in the

983
00:43:49,653 --> 00:43:52,973
Speaker 3: menu for the price. But the price is the price, right,

984
00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:55,172
Speaker 3: is that if I go into a pub and I pay,

985
00:43:55,213 --> 00:43:58,453
Speaker 3: in this case, sixteen sixteen bucks and I'm getting five

986
00:43:58,573 --> 00:44:01,973
Speaker 3: seventy five for most of the time, I kind of

987
00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:04,493
Speaker 3: just accept that is the price of going out and

988
00:44:04,533 --> 00:44:08,813
Speaker 3: supporting New Zealand hospitality because as Nick said, for down

989
00:44:08,813 --> 00:44:11,053
Speaker 3: in the story, what is the alternative that if he's

990
00:44:11,093 --> 00:44:14,973
Speaker 3: not charging sixteen dollars for a proper pint or some

991
00:44:15,013 --> 00:44:17,373
Speaker 3: of these other places that are charging fourteen bucks for

992
00:44:17,693 --> 00:44:20,693
Speaker 3: a little bit less than your beer, then New Zealand's

993
00:44:20,733 --> 00:44:23,652
Speaker 3: nightlife is going to slowly shut down more and more

994
00:44:23,693 --> 00:44:25,853
Speaker 3: and more. And we're already head issued with hospitality in

995
00:44:25,893 --> 00:44:26,293
Speaker 3: New Zealand.

996
00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:28,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to talk about, because one

997
00:44:29,013 --> 00:44:31,293
Speaker 2: of the main drivers of stopping people going out to

998
00:44:31,373 --> 00:44:34,413
Speaker 2: bars is the price of alcohol at bars compared to

999
00:44:34,453 --> 00:44:36,172
Speaker 2: the price if you buy it and take it home. Right,

1000
00:44:36,773 --> 00:44:38,853
Speaker 2: But surely we all agree that it's better to have

1001
00:44:38,933 --> 00:44:42,613
Speaker 2: people out drinking in public and bars that employ people

1002
00:44:43,093 --> 00:44:48,293
Speaker 2: that build characters, that build communities, that build buildings and

1003
00:44:49,133 --> 00:44:51,533
Speaker 2: run businesses and put tax back through the system and

1004
00:44:51,613 --> 00:44:53,893
Speaker 2: keep the economy going right as opposed to going to

1005
00:44:54,453 --> 00:44:57,292
Speaker 2: supermarket or going to a bottle store and just buying

1006
00:44:57,333 --> 00:45:00,733
Speaker 2: the booze and slamming it at home. That that doesn't

1007
00:45:00,773 --> 00:45:05,693
Speaker 2: grow anything. So you know, what can we do to

1008
00:45:05,733 --> 00:45:08,613
Speaker 2: lower the price of beer in bars, because you know,

1009
00:45:08,773 --> 00:45:12,013
Speaker 2: bars do it tough. That's sixteen dollars that they're charging

1010
00:45:12,013 --> 00:45:13,933
Speaker 2: for that pint, for that real pint at the church

1011
00:45:14,093 --> 00:45:16,653
Speaker 2: fantastic bar, by the way, that's what they have to

1012
00:45:16,733 --> 00:45:19,973
Speaker 2: charge the same business. Definitely that they can't charge less

1013
00:45:19,973 --> 00:45:22,533
Speaker 2: than that. But it's amazing. I've looked up into some

1014
00:45:22,573 --> 00:45:25,133
Speaker 2: of the excised tax and how much tax they're actually

1015
00:45:25,173 --> 00:45:28,413
Speaker 2: paying on beer to pour beer in bars, And there

1016
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:31,853
Speaker 2: might be a situation that we could look at where

1017
00:45:31,893 --> 00:45:37,212
Speaker 2: we lower the tax on drinks poured at bars as

1018
00:45:37,213 --> 00:45:42,533
Speaker 2: opposed to bought in a bottle store. So you incentivize

1019
00:45:42,653 --> 00:45:46,652
Speaker 2: people to drink their alcohol at bars that do good

1020
00:45:46,733 --> 00:45:49,613
Speaker 2: for the community and grow and build the hospitality sector,

1021
00:45:50,013 --> 00:45:53,093
Speaker 2: as opposed to the situation now where everything seems to

1022
00:45:53,093 --> 00:45:55,693
Speaker 2: be incentivized into people buying beer and going home and

1023
00:45:55,733 --> 00:45:56,133
Speaker 2: drinking it.

1024
00:45:56,213 --> 00:45:58,133
Speaker 3: And why is that a controversial idea? I don't know

1025
00:45:58,173 --> 00:46:01,333
Speaker 3: why that hasn't been implemented sooner, because you can't have

1026
00:46:01,613 --> 00:46:05,652
Speaker 3: really a country without a night life that is somewhat successful.

1027
00:46:05,693 --> 00:46:07,772
Speaker 3: That you know, We've got this new tourism campaign about

1028
00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:10,133
Speaker 3: to launch for good in the sake everyone must go

1029
00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:12,212
Speaker 3: as and trying to get ossies to come here. They're

1030
00:46:12,213 --> 00:46:14,692
Speaker 3: not going to come here if all our bars and

1031
00:46:14,853 --> 00:46:18,013
Speaker 3: restaurants are closing because it's too expensive to pay for

1032
00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:19,453
Speaker 3: a pint and nobody goes out anymore.

1033
00:46:19,453 --> 00:46:21,812
Speaker 2: The amount of excise tax paid on a fifty liters

1034
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:26,093
Speaker 2: keg of five percent ABV bear has risen from seventy

1035
00:46:26,333 --> 00:46:28,773
Speaker 2: seven dollars and seventy two cents and twenty twenty one

1036
00:46:29,213 --> 00:46:33,053
Speaker 2: to a projected ninety two dollars and seventeen cents from

1037
00:46:33,133 --> 00:46:36,333
Speaker 2: July first, twenty twenty four. That's when it went up

1038
00:46:36,333 --> 00:46:39,333
Speaker 2: to representing approximately thirty two percent of the price paid

1039
00:46:39,373 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 2: by hospitality venues. When combined with GST, nearly half forty

1040
00:46:43,973 --> 00:46:45,812
Speaker 2: seven percent of the price of a keg of beer

1041
00:46:45,893 --> 00:46:46,493
Speaker 2: is now tax.

1042
00:46:46,853 --> 00:46:49,333
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a big increase in three years times and

1043
00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:50,172
Speaker 3: a tough three years.

1044
00:46:50,213 --> 00:46:53,053
Speaker 2: So basically half the money that their earning is going

1045
00:46:53,093 --> 00:46:55,252
Speaker 2: in tax. They're no wonder a pint has to cost

1046
00:46:55,293 --> 00:46:57,813
Speaker 2: sixteen dollars and no wonder people go to the bottle

1047
00:46:57,813 --> 00:46:59,013
Speaker 2: store and just drink beers at home.

1048
00:46:59,133 --> 00:47:01,373
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Love to hear

1049
00:47:01,373 --> 00:47:03,453
Speaker 3: from you on this one. Do we need to standard

1050
00:47:03,453 --> 00:47:07,053
Speaker 3: eye what a pint is in our bars and restaurants?

1051
00:47:07,053 --> 00:47:09,653
Speaker 3: But more importantly, do we need to for lack of

1052
00:47:09,693 --> 00:47:11,453
Speaker 3: a better word, would you call it subsidized? I don't

1053
00:47:11,493 --> 00:47:11,893
Speaker 3: think that's the.

1054
00:47:11,933 --> 00:47:17,613
Speaker 2: Right incentivize people to go to bars, and incentivize restaurants

1055
00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:20,733
Speaker 2: and make it easier for restaurants and bars to make

1056
00:47:20,813 --> 00:47:23,613
Speaker 2: money and employee people and make the world a better place.

1057
00:47:23,413 --> 00:47:24,933
Speaker 3: If you work in the industry. Love to hear from you.

1058
00:47:25,133 --> 00:47:27,373
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

1059
00:47:27,453 --> 00:47:30,213
Speaker 3: nine two nine tools the text number. It is fifteen

1060
00:47:30,653 --> 00:47:31,333
Speaker 3: quarter past.

1061
00:47:31,173 --> 00:47:35,973
Speaker 1: Two, your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor

1062
00:47:36,053 --> 00:47:39,812
Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into

1063
00:47:39,973 --> 00:47:43,413
Speaker 1: something special. Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1064
00:47:43,493 --> 00:47:43,853
Speaker 4: Sa'd be.

1065
00:47:45,373 --> 00:47:48,212
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. It is seventeen past two and we're talking

1066
00:47:48,213 --> 00:47:51,253
Speaker 3: about the price of pints in New Zealand pubs. But

1067
00:47:52,253 --> 00:47:55,293
Speaker 3: we also want to have a chat about incentivizing hospitality

1068
00:47:55,493 --> 00:47:59,253
Speaker 3: in New Zealand to be a will to serve cheaper

1069
00:47:59,253 --> 00:48:03,013
Speaker 3: pints effectively by reducing the amount of excise tax they

1070
00:48:03,053 --> 00:48:05,933
Speaker 3: have to pay. Plenty of great techs coming through on

1071
00:48:06,053 --> 00:48:10,613
Speaker 3: nine to nine to two Yes, Matt, Yes, making drinks

1072
00:48:10,733 --> 00:48:15,212
Speaker 3: cheaper on premises without cutting the margin. The publican needs

1073
00:48:15,213 --> 00:48:17,533
Speaker 3: to make us the way forward. Unfortunately, the police, council,

1074
00:48:17,613 --> 00:48:20,053
Speaker 3: liquor authorities and public health officers seem to want to

1075
00:48:20,093 --> 00:48:23,253
Speaker 3: spread people out to any number of our best shed

1076
00:48:23,253 --> 00:48:26,652
Speaker 3: parties where there is no host responsibility and anything goes.

1077
00:48:26,853 --> 00:48:29,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because a bar or a restaurant takes

1078
00:48:29,973 --> 00:48:33,573
Speaker 2: on a lot of the harm management of alcohol, don't

1079
00:48:33,573 --> 00:48:36,373
Speaker 2: they bar will have security, they don't drink, They don't

1080
00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:40,493
Speaker 2: serve people when they're intoxicated or causing problems. Yeah, you know,

1081
00:48:40,773 --> 00:48:44,453
Speaker 2: it's in my personal opinion, I think it's much better

1082
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:49,973
Speaker 2: if we move the weight of alcohol consumption towards venues.

1083
00:48:50,293 --> 00:48:52,933
Speaker 2: As I say that higher people and build things and

1084
00:48:53,813 --> 00:48:57,573
Speaker 2: are creative and look after their punters as opposed to

1085
00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:01,133
Speaker 2: currently now it's massively incentivized for people to drink at home.

1086
00:49:01,173 --> 00:49:03,013
Speaker 3: They are safe for places to be, no doubt about that.

1087
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:07,093
Speaker 16: Kid day Tony, Hi, I thought that close by this

1088
00:49:07,213 --> 00:49:10,613
Speaker 16: business of what if party is place? A pint in

1089
00:49:10,693 --> 00:49:13,973
Speaker 16: England is governed by the Weights and Measures Act of

1090
00:49:14,133 --> 00:49:20,533
Speaker 16: eighteen hundred and fifty or something like that. And therefore

1091
00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:27,533
Speaker 16: every licensed premises or any public premises serving alcohol and

1092
00:49:27,533 --> 00:49:31,413
Speaker 16: we just use the pipe. For instance, it has a

1093
00:49:31,453 --> 00:49:35,733
Speaker 16: mark on the glass, a line across that is where

1094
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:39,173
Speaker 16: what over size of the glasses, That is where the

1095
00:49:39,253 --> 00:49:43,533
Speaker 16: measure is for a pipe, and inspectors go around on

1096
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:46,573
Speaker 16: a regular basis and also check the nips as well

1097
00:49:46,613 --> 00:49:50,133
Speaker 16: to see that the required number of fluid ounces is

1098
00:49:50,133 --> 00:49:52,413
Speaker 16: coming out of the nip or into the.

1099
00:49:52,373 --> 00:49:59,133
Speaker 2: Glass, right, and what is what is a English point

1100
00:49:59,253 --> 00:50:01,333
Speaker 2: and the same mills.

1101
00:50:02,173 --> 00:50:05,933
Speaker 16: I think your earlier call I had no idea that

1102
00:50:05,973 --> 00:50:09,453
Speaker 16: I pres he said it was partn and seventy certainly

1103
00:50:09,533 --> 00:50:13,213
Speaker 16: not six hundred, yes, because.

1104
00:50:12,973 --> 00:50:14,973
Speaker 2: Because we always we always think that it points six

1105
00:50:15,013 --> 00:50:17,293
Speaker 2: hundred in New Zealand, because we used to have points

1106
00:50:17,333 --> 00:50:18,973
Speaker 2: of milk that was six hundred milks.

1107
00:50:19,373 --> 00:50:22,653
Speaker 16: To say that that was how milk was. But anyway,

1108
00:50:22,733 --> 00:50:25,293
Speaker 16: that's how it is. And the other there is an

1109
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:28,613
Speaker 16: interesting theory about why you don't get drunk as drunk

1110
00:50:28,653 --> 00:50:32,813
Speaker 16: on English beer as you do in New Zealand, and

1111
00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:39,813
Speaker 16: it's still done because well I'm talking to friends over

1112
00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:43,692
Speaker 16: in England and when I was lastly that's ten years ago,

1113
00:50:43,733 --> 00:50:47,573
Speaker 16: but they were still brewing beer and dispensing it from

1114
00:50:47,613 --> 00:50:52,413
Speaker 16: the brewery in wooden barrels, which was pumped out of

1115
00:50:52,453 --> 00:50:59,373
Speaker 16: the barrel. It was not pressurized. After this, right, you're

1116
00:50:59,453 --> 00:51:02,533
Speaker 16: just seeing Coronation Street. So the barman in the pub,

1117
00:51:02,653 --> 00:51:04,333
Speaker 16: I don't know what they're doing now, watched it for you,

1118
00:51:04,813 --> 00:51:07,333
Speaker 16: but they pull a handle on the bar. It's actually

1119
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:10,413
Speaker 16: a pump and it's pumped beer up from wooden cask yep.

1120
00:51:11,613 --> 00:51:14,493
Speaker 16: And therefore it's quite a different product to the stuff

1121
00:51:14,573 --> 00:51:17,973
Speaker 16: you're getting aluminium kegs. And as I haven't drunk this

1122
00:51:18,053 --> 00:51:21,653
Speaker 16: stuff now for in almost twenty years, you say, to

1123
00:51:21,773 --> 00:51:24,573
Speaker 16: my health, it just toss up between my liver and

1124
00:51:24,933 --> 00:51:30,973
Speaker 16: drinking yep. But that could well be the reason it is.

1125
00:51:31,933 --> 00:51:34,213
Speaker 16: It is not pressurized in a wooden cask.

1126
00:51:34,573 --> 00:51:37,373
Speaker 2: But now in the UK that surely they're on the

1127
00:51:37,813 --> 00:51:39,773
Speaker 2: well they do have.

1128
00:51:39,973 --> 00:51:42,573
Speaker 16: But there's a lot of pubs that's still well. In fact,

1129
00:51:42,613 --> 00:51:42,973
Speaker 16: I know.

1130
00:51:42,973 --> 00:51:44,053
Speaker 4: They're still putting out.

1131
00:51:45,053 --> 00:51:47,973
Speaker 16: It's brewery in Blackburn, which I know and love and

1132
00:51:48,093 --> 00:51:51,453
Speaker 16: fell in love with many decades ago, still delivers It's

1133
00:51:51,493 --> 00:51:57,693
Speaker 16: wooden kegs with Clydesdale horses on. It's just a gimmick.

1134
00:51:57,933 --> 00:51:58,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because.

1135
00:51:58,773 --> 00:51:59,973
Speaker 16: It's early flat town.

1136
00:52:00,933 --> 00:52:05,053
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think beer delivered by Clysdale horse is

1137
00:52:05,453 --> 00:52:08,413
Speaker 2: going to be bitter beer. Tasty of beer. Yeah, the

1138
00:52:08,493 --> 00:52:10,013
Speaker 2: vibes right good, could.

1139
00:52:09,893 --> 00:52:14,213
Speaker 16: Be the measurements. You can call anything a pine if

1140
00:52:14,213 --> 00:52:16,493
Speaker 16: you've got a handle on the dimples. In New Zealand

1141
00:52:16,573 --> 00:52:17,333
Speaker 16: they call it pie.

1142
00:52:17,453 --> 00:52:20,653
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, that's that's the problem.

1143
00:52:21,253 --> 00:52:22,973
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, Tony doesn't do your

1144
00:52:23,053 --> 00:52:25,853
Speaker 3: hidden as as an Englishman who now lives in New Zealand.

1145
00:52:25,853 --> 00:52:28,133
Speaker 3: But did you say you haven't gone out for twenty years?

1146
00:52:28,933 --> 00:52:32,293
Speaker 16: No, I haven't drunk beer, right, okay, or anything else

1147
00:52:32,333 --> 00:52:32,573
Speaker 16: for that.

1148
00:52:34,573 --> 00:52:35,252
Speaker 2: And how's the lover?

1149
00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:37,813
Speaker 16: Fine? Good?

1150
00:52:38,053 --> 00:52:39,093
Speaker 3: Fine? Yeah, solid.

1151
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:40,893
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. There's one thing for sure,

1152
00:52:41,013 --> 00:52:42,933
Speaker 2: you your lover will be better if you don't drink

1153
00:52:42,973 --> 00:52:48,253
Speaker 2: at all. Yeah, the lover takes that takes the brunt

1154
00:52:48,253 --> 00:52:49,213
Speaker 2: of it, certainly does.

1155
00:52:50,333 --> 00:52:54,013
Speaker 16: Did anyone know that the liver actually regenerates itself, So

1156
00:52:54,053 --> 00:52:59,013
Speaker 16: if you stop drinking, your liver will actually return to

1157
00:52:59,133 --> 00:53:01,773
Speaker 16: some degree of normality depending on how much some of

1158
00:53:01,813 --> 00:53:04,133
Speaker 16: the elses you had in it before you stop drinking.

1159
00:53:04,333 --> 00:53:06,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good to know, good, good to know

1160
00:53:06,733 --> 00:53:08,773
Speaker 2: this hope for me. Thank you for your thank you

1161
00:53:08,813 --> 00:53:09,212
Speaker 2: for your call.

1162
00:53:09,293 --> 00:53:11,453
Speaker 3: Tony, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1163
00:53:11,533 --> 00:53:13,693
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two nine two is the text number.

1164
00:53:14,533 --> 00:53:19,453
Speaker 3: Some good texts coming through Yiday guys. How about cutting

1165
00:53:19,493 --> 00:53:23,653
Speaker 3: the X size on kegs by fifty percent. Forget about

1166
00:53:23,653 --> 00:53:25,773
Speaker 3: the size of the glass, think about how much tax

1167
00:53:25,933 --> 00:53:29,013
Speaker 3: is in that vessel. The size is irrelevant. The tax

1168
00:53:29,013 --> 00:53:31,253
Speaker 3: added to the beer is relevant to the government takes

1169
00:53:31,373 --> 00:53:36,493
Speaker 3: xcized tax GST on the X size And HPA levy,

1170
00:53:37,453 --> 00:53:38,692
Speaker 3: what's the HPA.

1171
00:53:38,453 --> 00:53:42,893
Speaker 2: Levy's there's something health I know what the HPA levy is.

1172
00:53:42,973 --> 00:53:47,493
Speaker 2: It's it's sort of like a health promotion. So it's

1173
00:53:47,533 --> 00:53:51,692
Speaker 2: the money that is spent to promote people not drinking beer. Basically, Yeah,

1174
00:53:51,693 --> 00:53:54,613
Speaker 2: I gotcha. So it's kind of like a traitorous little

1175
00:53:54,613 --> 00:53:58,613
Speaker 2: bit of anti beer tax in the middle there.

1176
00:53:58,653 --> 00:54:00,973
Speaker 3: Well, as they as a text of finishes. That's why

1177
00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:03,093
Speaker 3: the prices are like they are. Yeah, I mean, it's

1178
00:54:03,093 --> 00:54:04,973
Speaker 3: a tax on a tax on a tax on a tax.

1179
00:54:05,093 --> 00:54:06,413
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was saying before. The amount of

1180
00:54:06,453 --> 00:54:09,693
Speaker 2: xis tax paid on a fifty liter of five percent

1181
00:54:09,973 --> 00:54:14,373
Speaker 2: beer has risen from seven to seventy two to ninety

1182
00:54:14,373 --> 00:54:17,013
Speaker 2: two point one seven. So thirty two percent of the

1183
00:54:17,053 --> 00:54:20,413
Speaker 2: price paid is on the tax. And you combine that

1184
00:54:20,413 --> 00:54:23,253
Speaker 2: with GSC that's fifty percent. Yeah, so fifty percent of

1185
00:54:23,293 --> 00:54:25,733
Speaker 2: your beer is going on tax before we even start

1186
00:54:26,013 --> 00:54:27,013
Speaker 2: trying to make money from it.

1187
00:54:27,213 --> 00:54:29,893
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, do we need to

1188
00:54:29,893 --> 00:54:34,533
Speaker 3: incentivize pubs and restaurants and hospitality on the back of

1189
00:54:34,653 --> 00:54:37,333
Speaker 3: that pretty crazy excised tax they've got to pay on

1190
00:54:37,373 --> 00:54:39,453
Speaker 3: a pint of beer and other alcohol for that matter.

1191
00:54:40,213 --> 00:54:42,293
Speaker 3: Ninety two is the text number. It is twenty four

1192
00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:46,252
Speaker 3: past two.

1193
00:54:47,133 --> 00:54:50,453
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1194
00:54:50,573 --> 00:54:54,093
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on used talk ZB Good afternoon.

1195
00:54:54,173 --> 00:55:00,853
Speaker 3: We're talking about lowering the excised tax or incentivizing hospitality pubs, restaurants,

1196
00:55:00,853 --> 00:55:05,013
Speaker 3: et cetera, so that they care are able to serve

1197
00:55:05,133 --> 00:55:07,253
Speaker 3: cheaper pints and get people through the door. Because at

1198
00:55:07,253 --> 00:55:10,333
Speaker 3: the moment that there is a big pain for hospitality, right,

1199
00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:11,933
Speaker 3: is that people don't Now.

1200
00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:14,692
Speaker 2: The setup is pushing people to buy alcohol and take

1201
00:55:14,693 --> 00:55:16,973
Speaker 2: it home rather than going to the lovely establishments that

1202
00:55:17,013 --> 00:55:19,973
Speaker 2: we have the restaurants and bars around the country. We're

1203
00:55:19,973 --> 00:55:23,013
Speaker 2: also talking about whether there should be a standard size

1204
00:55:23,013 --> 00:55:25,173
Speaker 2: for a pint. So when you order a pint, should

1205
00:55:25,173 --> 00:55:27,213
Speaker 2: it come out at a standard size, because now it's

1206
00:55:27,213 --> 00:55:30,293
Speaker 2: all over the shop with different shaped glasses and they

1207
00:55:30,373 --> 00:55:33,253
Speaker 2: might not say that it's a point when you order it.

1208
00:55:33,773 --> 00:55:36,413
Speaker 2: They you know, they just assume it's a handle, right, Yeah,

1209
00:55:36,453 --> 00:55:38,533
Speaker 2: so you order a pint, you're not really ordering a pint,

1210
00:55:38,573 --> 00:55:41,413
Speaker 2: you're ordering whatever their schoon or whatever this sized glass

1211
00:55:41,413 --> 00:55:44,533
Speaker 2: that they that they that they sell as their tap bears.

1212
00:55:44,653 --> 00:55:47,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, standardized it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1213
00:55:47,173 --> 00:55:50,013
Speaker 3: is the number to call ay at Trevor. Hey, guy,

1214
00:55:50,053 --> 00:55:52,133
Speaker 3: tell you very good. What's your take on this?

1215
00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:55,533
Speaker 8: Well quite spooky actually, I was watching sky on news

1216
00:55:55,613 --> 00:55:59,933
Speaker 8: last night and one of the shows from eleven o'clock

1217
00:56:00,173 --> 00:56:03,133
Speaker 8: we're having a discussion about that. Now, some people can

1218
00:56:03,133 --> 00:56:05,533
Speaker 8: block you is but one nation, it wasn't pulling hands

1219
00:56:05,573 --> 00:56:07,652
Speaker 8: and it was one of the people a part of

1220
00:56:07,893 --> 00:56:11,213
Speaker 8: one nation, So forget, you know, forget who said it.

1221
00:56:11,253 --> 00:56:14,373
Speaker 8: But they actually have got a policy to do exactly

1222
00:56:14,413 --> 00:56:17,893
Speaker 8: what you said, because they put they put forward some

1223
00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:21,693
Speaker 8: facts and figures on what it's doing to the hospitality

1224
00:56:21,733 --> 00:56:24,733
Speaker 8: trade in Australia and you know how important it plays

1225
00:56:24,733 --> 00:56:27,172
Speaker 8: in their society. I know it causes problems, but how

1226
00:56:27,173 --> 00:56:29,573
Speaker 8: big it is and you know, and what it's doing

1227
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:31,653
Speaker 8: to it and the mount of bars that are closing down,

1228
00:56:32,013 --> 00:56:34,573
Speaker 8: and it really was incredible when they pointed it out

1229
00:56:34,693 --> 00:56:38,613
Speaker 8: and discussed it. Why you know, you wouldn't look at it,

1230
00:56:39,413 --> 00:56:41,853
Speaker 8: you just have to look at it, and it was

1231
00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:46,333
Speaker 8: quite amazing really, And of course at the table discussion

1232
00:56:46,453 --> 00:56:49,333
Speaker 8: was a labor representative of a Labor party representative, and

1233
00:56:49,413 --> 00:56:51,493
Speaker 8: the anything they could say is, you know, if you

1234
00:56:51,493 --> 00:56:53,973
Speaker 8: don't get taged from alcohol, are children are going to

1235
00:56:54,013 --> 00:56:56,413
Speaker 8: starve in the streets? You know what about education?

1236
00:56:56,973 --> 00:56:58,172
Speaker 13: You know what about health?

1237
00:56:58,213 --> 00:56:59,853
Speaker 8: Are you going to take the money from those things?

1238
00:57:00,053 --> 00:57:02,133
Speaker 8: But when you listen to this guy's point of view,

1239
00:57:02,573 --> 00:57:06,293
Speaker 8: it was really a very strong case to help bars

1240
00:57:06,333 --> 00:57:08,773
Speaker 8: out and it just seems a very sensibul way of

1241
00:57:08,893 --> 00:57:12,493
Speaker 8: doing it. Just cutting the excised tax could be a

1242
00:57:12,533 --> 00:57:14,333
Speaker 8: little bit tricky, there could be a few people trying

1243
00:57:14,373 --> 00:57:17,093
Speaker 8: to reward it in that but for bars and restaurant

1244
00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:20,333
Speaker 8: in the hospitality trade because over there it's just dial

1245
00:57:20,373 --> 00:57:23,493
Speaker 8: what's happening to the bars or because of the cost

1246
00:57:23,813 --> 00:57:25,373
Speaker 8: of what it is to go out and have a

1247
00:57:25,373 --> 00:57:28,933
Speaker 8: beer with your mates, with your family, talk to somebody,

1248
00:57:28,973 --> 00:57:31,093
Speaker 8: not on a phone, you know, not on a video,

1249
00:57:31,533 --> 00:57:34,573
Speaker 8: talk to somebody and have a conversation and solve the

1250
00:57:34,613 --> 00:57:37,453
Speaker 8: world's problems. It's so important to a society.

1251
00:57:37,853 --> 00:57:40,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, no one's denying that there are

1252
00:57:40,493 --> 00:57:45,013
Speaker 2: harms from alcohol. But a restaurant and a bar employs people,

1253
00:57:46,013 --> 00:57:48,733
Speaker 2: and as there's community around it, and people can start

1254
00:57:48,773 --> 00:57:52,933
Speaker 2: businesses and run businesses and put tax through the system

1255
00:57:53,133 --> 00:57:57,093
Speaker 2: in other ways. But right now, what's happening is just

1256
00:57:57,173 --> 00:58:01,733
Speaker 2: people buy beers from the supermarket or from a bottle

1257
00:58:01,733 --> 00:58:04,533
Speaker 2: store and they just go out the door and then

1258
00:58:04,533 --> 00:58:06,533
Speaker 2: they take it home and they sit in front of

1259
00:58:06,533 --> 00:58:09,573
Speaker 2: the TV. And any harm that you're going to get

1260
00:58:09,573 --> 00:58:12,733
Speaker 2: from alcohol is still happening. It's just not the benefits

1261
00:58:12,733 --> 00:58:16,933
Speaker 2: such as as establishments being built and you know, all

1262
00:58:16,973 --> 00:58:22,573
Speaker 2: the creativity and value for you know, a community and

1263
00:58:22,733 --> 00:58:26,453
Speaker 2: new new buildings going up and new businesses opening and

1264
00:58:26,493 --> 00:58:30,413
Speaker 2: the vitality that brings the world. So it makes perfect

1265
00:58:30,453 --> 00:58:34,933
Speaker 2: sense to incentivize bars over drinking at home.

1266
00:58:35,693 --> 00:58:38,053
Speaker 8: Absolutely not just drinking from home. We do know people

1267
00:58:38,053 --> 00:58:40,293
Speaker 8: will go and buy a beer from a shopmake or

1268
00:58:40,373 --> 00:58:42,813
Speaker 8: someone in a park up somewhere, and I'll probably get

1269
00:58:42,853 --> 00:58:44,693
Speaker 8: a lot drunker than they would have. There're a beer

1270
00:58:44,733 --> 00:58:47,453
Speaker 8: where it's a little bit controlled and things. But it

1271
00:58:47,573 --> 00:58:52,293
Speaker 8: was absolutely staggering the actual damage that is doing in

1272
00:58:52,333 --> 00:58:55,693
Speaker 8: Australia to the hospitality industry and the amount of people.

1273
00:58:55,773 --> 00:58:57,773
Speaker 8: And as I say, it's got to be a go.

1274
00:58:57,933 --> 00:59:00,413
Speaker 8: And I think it's sort of something that David Simol

1275
00:59:00,493 --> 00:59:02,533
Speaker 8: might come on a few brings it up and points

1276
00:59:02,533 --> 00:59:04,933
Speaker 8: out what's happening to the hospitality right, and all you're

1277
00:59:04,973 --> 00:59:08,573
Speaker 8: doing is just subsidizing them a little bit. But the

1278
00:59:08,653 --> 00:59:10,973
Speaker 8: Damager won't do that. You know that it won't do

1279
00:59:11,133 --> 00:59:13,373
Speaker 8: and help the money coming in. I think is just

1280
00:59:13,413 --> 00:59:17,533
Speaker 8: a fantastic, fantastic ideas worth a discussion. But as I say,

1281
00:59:17,573 --> 00:59:19,773
Speaker 8: the left wingers will say, what about starving children?

1282
00:59:19,973 --> 00:59:20,213
Speaker 18: Less?

1283
00:59:20,253 --> 00:59:22,733
Speaker 8: Tax less tax school? That's all I can come up with,

1284
00:59:22,853 --> 00:59:25,573
Speaker 8: So some very good ideas we'll put on that program

1285
00:59:25,653 --> 00:59:26,093
Speaker 8: last night.

1286
00:59:26,213 --> 00:59:27,653
Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much for your call, Trevor.

1287
00:59:28,053 --> 00:59:31,213
Speaker 3: I mean, with that, you think clearly a lot of

1288
00:59:31,253 --> 00:59:33,573
Speaker 3: people are not going out because they're feeling the cost

1289
00:59:33,573 --> 00:59:35,693
Speaker 3: of living right A lot of things have got expense

1290
00:59:35,773 --> 00:59:38,613
Speaker 3: of not just beers and not just eating out at restaurants.

1291
00:59:38,613 --> 00:59:41,653
Speaker 3: But would that make a massive difference to you if

1292
00:59:41,653 --> 00:59:44,453
Speaker 3: you're listening right now, what are the reasons that you're

1293
00:59:44,453 --> 00:59:46,733
Speaker 3: not going out to the pub anymore or to the restaurants?

1294
00:59:46,773 --> 00:59:50,533
Speaker 3: It purely because you don't have that extra money per

1295
00:59:50,613 --> 00:59:52,653
Speaker 3: week to go down and have it, have some food

1296
00:59:52,693 --> 00:59:54,293
Speaker 3: out or a pint out. Love to hear from your

1297
00:59:54,293 --> 00:59:56,693
Speaker 3: on oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, And if

1298
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Speaker 3: the government reduced the excise tax on the pubs and

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Speaker 3: made a proper pint nick inkster pint ten bucks instead

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Speaker 3: of sixteen bucks, would that make all the difference? Love

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Speaker 3: to hear from you? Nine to nine two is the

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Speaker 3: text number. It is twenty nine to three headlines coming up.

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Speaker 9: Use talk zedby headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no

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Speaker 9: trouble with a blue bubble. An eighteen year old born

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Speaker 9: to Indian overstayers in New Zealand is begging to be

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Speaker 9: allowed to stay as an immigration minister considers his family's case.

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Speaker 9: An Auckland Councilor says people who aggressively attack Pride Festival

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Speaker 9: events over the weekend, including a children's library science show,

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Speaker 9: don't reflect the average Aucklander's attitudes. Statsn Z data shows

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Speaker 9: overseas visitor arrivals hit three point three million people annually

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Speaker 9: to December. That's up twelve percent, led by Australian and

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Speaker 9: Chinese arrivals. Wet weathers likely to continue tomorrow in Tasman

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Speaker 9: in parts of the South Island, although heavy rain warnings

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Speaker 9: for Gisbon and Corimandel end about nine tonight. A two

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Speaker 9: Milk has upped its first half net profit by seven

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Speaker 9: point six percent and announced its first dividend of eight

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Speaker 9: point five cents to share. Chief executive David bought A

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Speaker 9: Lucy says it's now one of the best performing infant

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Speaker 9: formula brands in China. James Cameron brings Titanic star parer

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Speaker 9: to Wellington's crisis of confidence. Read the full column at

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Speaker 9: endzed here or premium Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: the price of alcohol in our pubs and restaurants.

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Speaker 2: That's after a sixteen dollar pint it's being sold at

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01:01:42,733 --> 01:01:44,693
Speaker 2: the church in christ Church, but that's a real pint,

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Speaker 2: so it's kind of a beat up. So they're actually

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Speaker 2: selling you five hundred and seventy five meals when off

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Speaker 2: on what you think is a pie and is only

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Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty five meals. But there's no two

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Speaker 2: ways about it. Alcohol in bars in restaurants in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand is incredibly expensive and it has to be for

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Speaker 2: them to stay in business. So we're floating the idea

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Speaker 2: of incentivising people to drink in bars as opposed to home,

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Speaker 2: go to the phone. Craig, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 18: I used to go to pubs, and I think when

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01:02:15,133 --> 01:02:18,093
Speaker 18: you say in sinivising people that drink the bars rather

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Speaker 18: than post I stopped going to pubs, not because of price,

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Speaker 18: but because of just being around drunk people that you

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01:02:25,893 --> 01:02:31,653
Speaker 18: don't know. And you know, it's there's probably only one

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Speaker 18: or two pubs that I feel comfortable going to. One

1341
01:02:34,733 --> 01:02:36,933
Speaker 18: of them would be The Pool Boy, and it's funny

1342
01:02:37,013 --> 01:02:41,333
Speaker 18: they don't have bounce, but they don't need because there's

1343
01:02:41,373 --> 01:02:45,333
Speaker 18: a respect for the vimmo. You know, it's sort of got,

1344
01:02:45,493 --> 01:02:50,133
Speaker 18: it's got a culture. But the last time I went

1345
01:02:50,173 --> 01:02:52,853
Speaker 18: into town. I said never again. That was about six

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01:02:52,933 --> 01:02:56,053
Speaker 18: years ago. I've got the man, came at home, the

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01:02:56,093 --> 01:02:59,253
Speaker 18: mates come around there, we get on Saturday night. We've

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Speaker 18: got absolutely mass I screaming a feet way of beds

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Speaker 18: for everybody.

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Speaker 2: You know, I guess, Craig. The thing is, it's not

1351
01:03:07,693 --> 01:03:11,013
Speaker 2: all part you know. If you're talking about lowering the

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01:03:11,053 --> 01:03:15,453
Speaker 2: excise on you know, on kig beer or you know, taps,

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01:03:15,493 --> 01:03:19,133
Speaker 2: basically that includes restaurants as well. So you know you

1354
01:03:19,173 --> 01:03:22,333
Speaker 2: can go out to it to a nice classy restaurant

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Speaker 2: where people won't be w hastling you.

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Speaker 18: Yeah you don't go Yeah, but you don't go out.

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01:03:27,293 --> 01:03:29,413
Speaker 18: I mean you go to a pub really for one reason,

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01:03:29,453 --> 01:03:31,533
Speaker 18: don't you, And that's just to have a little bit

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Speaker 18: more than you probably should most most of the.

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Speaker 2: Time, I don't know. I think I go to pubs

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01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:39,573
Speaker 2: to meet my meet friends in an area. Yeah, so

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01:03:39,733 --> 01:03:41,733
Speaker 2: you know, like so I went to the pub yesterday

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01:03:41,773 --> 01:03:44,293
Speaker 2: that wasn't have more than my fish year. It was

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Speaker 2: just a convenient place to meet about five or six friends.

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Speaker 18: I'm talking more in the night.

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Speaker 2: But you don't go to a night to get absolutely solid.

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Speaker 18: You can, but you know, I just find pubs now

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01:04:00,933 --> 01:04:05,133
Speaker 18: there there I've lost them just for what I don't.

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01:04:04,973 --> 01:04:07,213
Speaker 2: Know, but it sounds like it sounds like you're running

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01:04:07,213 --> 01:04:09,413
Speaker 2: a pretty good man cave, so you know you've got

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01:04:09,413 --> 01:04:12,013
Speaker 2: some pretty good competition you're running at home. Hey, thanks

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Speaker 2: to you call Craig. Appreciate it, Okay, your thoughts, Yeah, probably.

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Speaker 22: A slightly different take on it to Craig, not so

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01:04:20,733 --> 01:04:23,893
Speaker 22: much about getting trolleyed and smashed. But I think that

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Speaker 22: reducing the fifty percent on kegged beer is a really

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01:04:29,093 --> 01:04:33,973
Speaker 22: positive thing for the industry and also for the socialization

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Speaker 22: of people actually going to meet people face to face,

1378
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Speaker 22: which is something that we keep hearing about, especially teenagers

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01:04:40,253 --> 01:04:44,773
Speaker 22: these days, they sit behind a screen. So encouraging people

1380
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Speaker 22: and not encouraging people to drink, but encouraging people to

1381
01:04:48,053 --> 01:04:52,173
Speaker 22: actually go out and socialize is really really important. And

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Speaker 22: I think by reducing key tax is one option would

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Speaker 22: definitely do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because people just immediately kay, they go to oh,

1385
01:05:00,453 --> 01:05:02,453
Speaker 2: someone's going out to a bar to get smashed and

1386
01:05:02,493 --> 01:05:06,173
Speaker 2: all the terrible repucussions of that. But hospitality includes a

1387
01:05:06,173 --> 01:05:08,133
Speaker 2: whole lot of people that go and have dinner and

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01:05:08,173 --> 01:05:11,253
Speaker 2: haird one or two wines and that's where the difference

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01:05:11,293 --> 01:05:13,933
Speaker 2: between a restaurant staying in business or not is if

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Speaker 2: they can make some money on the drinks. It doesn't

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01:05:16,973 --> 01:05:19,693
Speaker 2: it's not twelve wines because you get thrown out and

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01:05:19,733 --> 01:05:23,293
Speaker 2: you won't be served. But right now it's just incentivized

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01:05:23,293 --> 01:05:25,053
Speaker 2: for people to go to a bottle store. And good

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01:05:25,053 --> 01:05:27,573
Speaker 2: on Craig. He sounds like here's a fantastic time, but

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01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:30,213
Speaker 2: you can't blame him for considering how much cheaper it

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01:05:30,253 --> 01:05:32,213
Speaker 2: is to just go home and drink there.

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Speaker 22: No one hundred percent. And I think considering the government

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Speaker 22: right now is talking about their focus being on business growth, yes,

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Speaker 22: and growth from the economy, and now they've just recently

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Speaker 22: come out talking about this push for tourism. You know,

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01:05:47,293 --> 01:05:51,053
Speaker 22: beer tourism, like wine tourism is something that New Zealand

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01:05:51,093 --> 01:05:52,453
Speaker 22: hasn't even tapped into yet.

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01:05:52,933 --> 01:05:56,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if more more bars and restaurants can open up,

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01:05:56,173 --> 01:06:01,173
Speaker 2: that's shop fitting. That helps a whole lot of trade's out.

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01:06:01,253 --> 01:06:03,733
Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of different things around that before

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01:06:03,773 --> 01:06:08,213
Speaker 2: you even get into hiring staff and you know, more chefs,

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01:06:08,493 --> 01:06:13,373
Speaker 2: more bartenders, more more building, more people getting out and

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01:06:13,413 --> 01:06:15,053
Speaker 2: spending time together, more community.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: One hundred percent. And if you think about an industry

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01:06:19,173 --> 01:06:23,053
Speaker 22: like brewing, it's not just about brewers. It's about the

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01:06:23,053 --> 01:06:24,933
Speaker 22: people that grow the hots, it's about the people that

1413
01:06:24,973 --> 01:06:27,173
Speaker 22: grow the malt. It's about the people that are delivering

1414
01:06:27,173 --> 01:06:30,853
Speaker 22: the keg exactly. It's a huge supply chain that would benefit.

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01:06:31,013 --> 01:06:33,933
Speaker 22: So I'm all for cutting keg tacks by fifty percent.

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01:06:34,053 --> 01:06:36,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're looking now with GST. Half of the price

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01:06:36,893 --> 01:06:39,133
Speaker 2: of a keg of beer that's being sold at a

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01:06:39,173 --> 01:06:41,333
Speaker 2: bar is tax.

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01:06:41,573 --> 01:06:43,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would assume.

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01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:44,333
Speaker 2: Were even trying to make money.

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01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:47,093
Speaker 3: I would assume cay most of where the publicans are

1422
01:06:47,093 --> 01:06:49,813
Speaker 3: making their money are not, as Craig says, the ones

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01:06:49,813 --> 01:06:51,893
Speaker 3: who are going to the pub to get rip snordered,

1424
01:06:51,933 --> 01:06:54,253
Speaker 3: drug a drunk. It would be the ones who turn

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01:06:54,373 --> 01:06:56,293
Speaker 3: up for a pint on a Sunday, right, Or you

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01:06:56,373 --> 01:06:58,213
Speaker 3: want to go out with your partner and your family

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01:06:58,453 --> 01:07:00,973
Speaker 3: to have a sit down pub dinner and you order

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01:07:01,013 --> 01:07:02,693
Speaker 3: a couple of points and some wines on the site.

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01:07:02,733 --> 01:07:04,693
Speaker 3: That's where they're making their money. It's not the ones

1430
01:07:04,693 --> 01:07:06,413
Speaker 3: who are going there to just get steamed.

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Speaker 22: Absolutely.

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01:07:08,693 --> 01:07:11,573
Speaker 2: Yeah. But every conversation we ever have, someone will goes, wow,

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01:07:11,693 --> 01:07:15,693
Speaker 2: people are just twelve beers mess. It's like, no, what

1434
01:07:15,813 --> 01:07:19,453
Speaker 2: about dad having two beers with lunch with us kids?

1435
01:07:19,693 --> 01:07:21,133
Speaker 3: Exactly? Yeah, thank you very much.

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01:07:21,213 --> 01:07:23,933
Speaker 2: Kay, Okay, no, no, you gokay, you've got something else

1437
01:07:23,973 --> 01:07:28,373
Speaker 2: to say. Okay, I just lost Sorry you talked over.

1438
01:07:28,493 --> 01:07:31,093
Speaker 2: I shut her down. I'm sorry to do that. So

1439
01:07:31,133 --> 01:07:33,773
Speaker 2: it's going to have a quite point there. Kay, might

1440
01:07:33,813 --> 01:07:35,293
Speaker 2: have just had the best point of the day and

1441
01:07:35,293 --> 01:07:36,693
Speaker 2: then you talked over and then she's gone.

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01:07:36,813 --> 01:07:39,773
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty and eighty. It is the number

1443
01:07:39,813 --> 01:07:42,173
Speaker 3: of call nineteen nine two. It's the text number. Got

1444
01:07:42,173 --> 01:07:42,733
Speaker 3: a few more likes?

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01:07:42,773 --> 01:07:43,973
Speaker 2: Ok yeah, ka was good.

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01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:48,133
Speaker 3: Hey, come back more, Kay, Liz Tyler. Oh one hundred

1447
01:07:48,253 --> 01:07:52,733
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is a number. Call It's nineteen to three, your.

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Speaker 1: New home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons with

1449
01:07:56,613 --> 01:08:00,373
Speaker 1: the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into something special.

1450
01:08:00,453 --> 01:08:02,973
Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk.

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01:08:03,093 --> 01:08:07,173
Speaker 3: Say'd be good afternoon, sixteen to three on.

1452
01:08:07,413 --> 01:08:10,533
Speaker 2: The fat going to text here on Hey guys, it's

1453
01:08:10,533 --> 01:08:14,133
Speaker 2: the Grinch from last Christmas. Good Day Grinch. We pull

1454
01:08:14,333 --> 01:08:17,053
Speaker 2: Heineken Tiger and cider from the tap. We offer pints

1455
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:19,293
Speaker 2: and half pints based purely on the fact most people

1456
01:08:19,372 --> 01:08:21,813
Speaker 2: know and what they are and what the approximate size is.

1457
01:08:22,213 --> 01:08:24,213
Speaker 2: We charge sixteen dollars for a pint, so that's the

1458
01:08:24,213 --> 01:08:26,852
Speaker 2: same as the church in christ Church and thirteen for

1459
01:08:27,013 --> 01:08:29,892
Speaker 2: a half. How does that work, hey, difference. We also

1460
01:08:30,013 --> 01:08:32,492
Speaker 2: pay freight to bring product over to Wahiki, pay for

1461
01:08:32,532 --> 01:08:35,212
Speaker 2: the lines to be clean, water and power and wages

1462
01:08:35,253 --> 01:08:37,692
Speaker 2: to wash glassware, and pay a fortune for water. So

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01:08:37,732 --> 01:08:39,572
Speaker 2: we have to supply this free of charge as part

1464
01:08:39,572 --> 01:08:42,253
Speaker 2: of our license. Last summer, for example, we paid five

1465
01:08:42,293 --> 01:08:45,532
Speaker 2: thousand dollars for water from November through until March, plus

1466
01:08:45,572 --> 01:08:47,812
Speaker 2: we pay to get rid of waste water. By law,

1467
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:50,492
Speaker 2: we have a legal responsibility to not allow customers to

1468
01:08:50,492 --> 01:08:53,053
Speaker 2: become intoxicated. Where as you or I can go into

1469
01:08:53,093 --> 01:08:55,812
Speaker 2: an offslot license and buy the entire stock and take

1470
01:08:55,812 --> 01:08:58,372
Speaker 2: this home to consume. Long wind and I know, but

1471
01:08:58,452 --> 01:09:00,133
Speaker 2: best you come over to Aahiki and have a point

1472
01:09:00,173 --> 01:09:01,532
Speaker 2: with us. Jeers Simon, I will.

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01:09:01,452 --> 01:09:03,532
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely great place to have a pint.

1474
01:09:03,812 --> 01:09:06,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm just talking about this, you know, about

1475
01:09:06,293 --> 01:09:10,213
Speaker 2: the off license versus drinking bars. This from hospitality in

1476
01:09:10,213 --> 01:09:12,492
Speaker 2: New Zealand. From our perspective, one of the key drivers

1477
01:09:12,532 --> 01:09:15,012
Speaker 2: for people choosing to stay home rather than head out

1478
01:09:15,013 --> 01:09:17,532
Speaker 2: to hospital venues is cost. The difference in the price

1479
01:09:17,612 --> 01:09:21,092
Speaker 2: of alcohol for off life's premises versus online premises sites

1480
01:09:21,133 --> 01:09:25,013
Speaker 2: of substantial people don't heed the venues just to have

1481
01:09:25,053 --> 01:09:27,492
Speaker 2: a drink. But we've long said one of the options

1482
01:09:27,492 --> 01:09:30,172
Speaker 2: to encourage people out to venues is to lower excise

1483
01:09:30,253 --> 01:09:33,812
Speaker 2: tax on tap beverages. This wouldn't just capture beer, as

1484
01:09:33,853 --> 01:09:36,892
Speaker 2: wine and spirit mixes are increasingly served through taps in

1485
01:09:36,933 --> 01:09:40,613
Speaker 2: an effort to allow venues to offer more competitive pricing. Yeah,

1486
01:09:40,692 --> 01:09:42,612
Speaker 2: because get out of the house. It's better than stay

1487
01:09:42,612 --> 01:09:42,892
Speaker 2: at home.

1488
01:09:42,933 --> 01:09:46,453
Speaker 3: In my opinion, makes a lot of sense. GAYL, good afternoon.

1489
01:09:46,612 --> 01:09:48,652
Speaker 3: You owned a country park a couple of years back.

1490
01:09:49,692 --> 01:09:50,093
Speaker 16: We did.

1491
01:09:50,253 --> 01:09:52,213
Speaker 3: Yes, well, great to chat with you.

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01:09:53,133 --> 01:09:56,732
Speaker 23: Thank you. You haven't spoken yet, but anyway, Yeah, it

1493
01:09:56,812 --> 01:10:02,452
Speaker 23: was mainly the other overheads rather than the price of

1494
01:10:02,492 --> 01:10:06,372
Speaker 23: the booze itself, because we had to get a building

1495
01:10:06,372 --> 01:10:10,053
Speaker 23: wear on a fitness because the building was old, we

1496
01:10:10,093 --> 01:10:13,572
Speaker 23: had we had to have super duper batteries to run

1497
01:10:13,652 --> 01:10:18,092
Speaker 23: the emergency lighting for half an hour if the place

1498
01:10:18,213 --> 01:10:23,333
Speaker 23: caught on fire. We had to have insurance, and it

1499
01:10:23,412 --> 01:10:27,213
Speaker 23: was an old building, so the insurance was really expensive.

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01:10:27,933 --> 01:10:34,853
Speaker 23: Plus you've got your acc levels, levees and council statification,

1501
01:10:35,093 --> 01:10:39,652
Speaker 23: you know, all the clean areas. You've got to have

1502
01:10:39,692 --> 01:10:42,612
Speaker 23: your kitchen certified. You've got to have this certified, you've

1503
01:10:42,612 --> 01:10:46,173
Speaker 23: got to have your ice machine cleaned out. And it

1504
01:10:46,253 --> 01:10:52,012
Speaker 23: was all those prices that doubled the price of a pint.

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01:10:52,973 --> 01:10:56,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, and you've got to pay that, you know,

1506
01:10:56,492 --> 01:11:00,412
Speaker 2: pay for all that with just half the you know,

1507
01:11:00,692 --> 01:11:04,652
Speaker 2: with half the money already going from a keg to tax.

1508
01:11:05,412 --> 01:11:09,532
Speaker 23: Yeah, and that's even like even that's because we got

1509
01:11:09,612 --> 01:11:14,692
Speaker 23: rid of Sky TV, because that goes on the cubic

1510
01:11:14,853 --> 01:11:22,892
Speaker 23: meter of your building. So nine years ago we had

1511
01:11:22,973 --> 01:11:26,213
Speaker 23: Sky and we were paying nine hundred dollars a month

1512
01:11:26,372 --> 01:11:28,812
Speaker 23: because it was a big area. So we got rid

1513
01:11:28,853 --> 01:11:32,852
Speaker 23: of Sky. So Sky to any any business that's running

1514
01:11:32,933 --> 01:11:34,492
Speaker 23: Sky saying yeah.

1515
01:11:35,013 --> 01:11:37,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to pay more because you're it's a

1516
01:11:37,333 --> 01:11:39,173
Speaker 2: public broadcast rather than a private one in.

1517
01:11:39,173 --> 01:11:40,772
Speaker 23: A house exactly.

1518
01:11:40,893 --> 01:11:41,093
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1519
01:11:41,293 --> 01:11:44,213
Speaker 23: And then there's that one music that you've got to

1520
01:11:44,213 --> 01:11:47,852
Speaker 23: pay for. So if you have music playing, you've got

1521
01:11:47,893 --> 01:11:50,372
Speaker 23: to pay that, and that goes on the area of

1522
01:11:50,452 --> 01:11:50,932
Speaker 23: the place.

1523
01:11:51,173 --> 01:11:53,093
Speaker 2: So do you think that do you think that a

1524
01:11:53,173 --> 01:11:55,333
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff should be done across the board, not

1525
01:11:55,372 --> 01:11:57,133
Speaker 2: just what we're talking about with the excise tax on.

1526
01:11:58,812 --> 01:12:03,612
Speaker 23: Just keep heading the tax because the government needs money,

1527
01:12:04,253 --> 01:12:08,972
Speaker 23: but all the other ones that you need to get

1528
01:12:08,973 --> 01:12:10,933
Speaker 23: the guy from the church like he'll be able to

1529
01:12:10,973 --> 01:12:14,852
Speaker 23: explain it more than what I can. But yeah, it's

1530
01:12:14,893 --> 01:12:16,932
Speaker 23: everyone else dipping into your dollar.

1531
01:12:17,572 --> 01:12:20,133
Speaker 2: And you said you owned a country pub. Do you

1532
01:12:20,133 --> 01:12:21,412
Speaker 2: not own it anymore?

1533
01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:22,333
Speaker 12: No?

1534
01:12:22,452 --> 01:12:24,572
Speaker 23: We sold it a couple of years ago and that was.

1535
01:12:24,532 --> 01:12:26,333
Speaker 2: That because it was too hard to do it, or

1536
01:12:26,372 --> 01:12:27,173
Speaker 2: you just wanted to move on.

1537
01:12:28,053 --> 01:12:30,692
Speaker 23: We just wanted to move on. But it was you know,

1538
01:12:30,732 --> 01:12:32,293
Speaker 23: it was all right. It was a mum and dad

1539
01:12:32,772 --> 01:12:37,173
Speaker 23: place that Heavey and I did, and we did it

1540
01:12:37,213 --> 01:12:39,812
Speaker 23: for about eight years and then just thought, yeah, now

1541
01:12:40,412 --> 01:12:41,253
Speaker 23: what's what's.

1542
01:12:41,053 --> 01:12:44,093
Speaker 2: The what's the quality of life like running a mum

1543
01:12:44,093 --> 01:12:45,093
Speaker 2: and dad country pub?

1544
01:12:46,253 --> 01:12:47,532
Speaker 6: It's twenty four seven.

1545
01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:52,652
Speaker 23: Yeah, it's not bad though, you know it was. It

1546
01:12:52,732 --> 01:12:55,652
Speaker 23: was good for the first seven years. After that was

1547
01:12:55,853 --> 01:12:58,492
Speaker 23: you know, you can't stay in the forever.

1548
01:12:59,173 --> 01:13:01,532
Speaker 3: How big was the township that you were servicing?

1549
01:13:03,893 --> 01:13:05,412
Speaker 23: About one hundred and fifty people?

1550
01:13:05,532 --> 01:13:09,293
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's tight now that is you were community leaders.

1551
01:13:09,293 --> 01:13:12,572
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's where a community pub like that, like

1552
01:13:12,612 --> 01:13:14,973
Speaker 2: a country pub, is actually doing a service for all

1553
01:13:15,372 --> 01:13:18,772
Speaker 2: all the angry texts we're getting here for promoting alcohol

1554
01:13:18,812 --> 01:13:22,333
Speaker 2: and the abuse and the threats that people forget that

1555
01:13:22,372 --> 01:13:24,492
Speaker 2: a country public that is a center for a town.

1556
01:13:24,572 --> 01:13:27,253
Speaker 2: Without it, then the town sort of disintegrates to a

1557
01:13:27,253 --> 01:13:27,772
Speaker 2: certain extent.

1558
01:13:28,293 --> 01:13:31,092
Speaker 23: But then the laws change and you can't have anyone

1559
01:13:31,133 --> 01:13:34,013
Speaker 23: intoxicated on your premises.

1560
01:13:34,093 --> 01:13:36,293
Speaker 6: So if the rugby.

1561
01:13:35,933 --> 01:13:39,372
Speaker 23: Club pulled in and one of them was drunk, you

1562
01:13:39,452 --> 01:13:42,972
Speaker 23: had to turn them all away because not easy.

1563
01:13:43,372 --> 01:13:45,852
Speaker 2: Not easy for a mapar operation to kick out a

1564
01:13:45,853 --> 01:13:46,652
Speaker 2: whole rugby club.

1565
01:13:47,612 --> 01:13:48,133
Speaker 4: That's tough.

1566
01:13:48,772 --> 01:13:50,253
Speaker 2: He thank you so much for your call, Gail.

1567
01:13:50,293 --> 01:13:54,253
Speaker 3: It's good insight, and she said, thanks Gail. A heck

1568
01:13:54,293 --> 01:13:58,133
Speaker 3: of a lot of overheads aside from the extra tax

1569
01:13:58,133 --> 01:14:00,293
Speaker 3: that you're paying on your beer, and she listed a

1570
01:14:00,293 --> 01:14:02,812
Speaker 3: big list there which would make there's a lot of headaches.

1571
01:14:02,812 --> 01:14:05,133
Speaker 3: Why would you bother running a country pub. Apart from

1572
01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:06,532
Speaker 3: the fact that it would be quite funny, You're just

1573
01:14:06,612 --> 01:14:07,452
Speaker 3: not going to make any money.

1574
01:14:07,492 --> 01:14:09,093
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those is that people have.

1575
01:14:09,173 --> 01:14:11,452
Speaker 2: It'll be wonderful to move the country, run a parb,

1576
01:14:11,893 --> 01:14:14,492
Speaker 2: move to the country run a store or a cafe

1577
01:14:14,652 --> 01:14:17,852
Speaker 2: or something, or just generally leave your job and run

1578
01:14:17,893 --> 01:14:20,412
Speaker 2: one of those things. And it's always so much work

1579
01:14:20,452 --> 01:14:22,933
Speaker 2: when you get there. It's the hard Hospo is the

1580
01:14:22,973 --> 01:14:25,492
Speaker 2: hardest work you're going to do. Hospit and farming is

1581
01:14:25,532 --> 01:14:26,333
Speaker 2: the hardest working you can do.

1582
01:14:26,532 --> 01:14:29,253
Speaker 3: Absolutely backbones, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighties. The

1583
01:14:29,412 --> 01:14:31,972
Speaker 3: number to call it is ten to three.

1584
01:14:33,732 --> 01:14:36,173
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1585
01:14:36,213 --> 01:14:36,852
Speaker 4: along the way.

1586
01:14:37,053 --> 01:14:41,012
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XCN eighty Innovation,

1587
01:14:41,213 --> 01:14:42,972
Speaker 1: Style and Design, have it all.

1588
01:14:43,133 --> 01:14:47,852
Speaker 3: News talks B, news Talks THEREB you're listening to Matt

1589
01:14:47,853 --> 01:14:50,972
Speaker 3: and Tyler at seven to three high dudes.

1590
01:14:51,013 --> 01:14:53,253
Speaker 2: Trevor had a valid point. Drinking out has become way

1591
01:14:53,253 --> 01:14:55,852
Speaker 2: too expensive. Owning your own home as fast becoming the same,

1592
01:14:55,893 --> 01:14:58,253
Speaker 2: and council rates are taxing people out of their homes,

1593
01:14:58,532 --> 01:15:01,012
Speaker 2: tax the middle class for they have not social engineering

1594
01:15:01,093 --> 01:15:03,732
Speaker 2: is alive and well that's from m Okay, there you go.

1595
01:15:04,652 --> 01:15:06,692
Speaker 2: My husband and I went to a restaurant type bar

1596
01:15:06,853 --> 01:15:09,333
Speaker 2: yesterday for dinner. No price on the menu for the beer,

1597
01:15:09,412 --> 01:15:10,932
Speaker 2: but prices for all the other drinks.

1598
01:15:11,333 --> 01:15:12,692
Speaker 3: Seems unusual that doesn't.

1599
01:15:13,452 --> 01:15:15,652
Speaker 2: That might just have been an oversight. The price of

1600
01:15:15,732 --> 01:15:19,412
Speaker 2: drinks is the problem. Paid eleven dollars for a corona

1601
01:15:19,572 --> 01:15:22,612
Speaker 2: in Albany, you can buy twelve for twenty two dollars.

1602
01:15:22,652 --> 01:15:24,973
Speaker 2: That's why hospital is failing. Sell it for six and

1603
01:15:25,013 --> 01:15:28,412
Speaker 2: you'll still make a profit, said cheers Leap. See that's

1604
01:15:28,412 --> 01:15:30,812
Speaker 2: the problem. They can't because there is so many so many,

1605
01:15:30,893 --> 01:15:36,492
Speaker 2: as a Gale pointed out, there's so many expenses, wages, insurance,

1606
01:15:37,492 --> 01:15:41,732
Speaker 2: you know, rent everything before you get get tax the warzoo.

1607
01:15:41,853 --> 01:15:45,412
Speaker 2: I mean, bars would would charge less if they could,

1608
01:15:45,612 --> 01:15:49,173
Speaker 2: if they could stay in business for selling the beers

1609
01:15:49,173 --> 01:15:51,492
Speaker 2: for six dollars. You just couldn't do it exactly, which

1610
01:15:51,532 --> 01:15:53,732
Speaker 2: is why we're talking about maybe incentivizing people to go

1611
01:15:53,732 --> 01:15:57,692
Speaker 2: to bars instead of drinking at home. Ben, welcome to

1612
01:15:57,732 --> 01:16:00,053
Speaker 2: the show. You've got some thoughts on Uzzie pubs versus

1613
01:16:00,093 --> 01:16:00,852
Speaker 2: New Zealand pubs.

1614
01:16:01,772 --> 01:16:03,452
Speaker 24: Hey, boys, how's it going?

1615
01:16:03,812 --> 01:16:04,572
Speaker 2: Being very good?

1616
01:16:05,772 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 24: Hey, Look, I loved away from the New Zealand for

1617
01:16:09,053 --> 01:16:14,613
Speaker 24: about twelve years, back back and forth between Sydney and Melbourne,

1618
01:16:14,933 --> 01:16:18,532
Speaker 24: and I sort of had just the comparison once moving

1619
01:16:18,572 --> 01:16:21,572
Speaker 24: back home, you know, with the family, and yeah, just

1620
01:16:21,732 --> 01:16:25,253
Speaker 24: interesting you know, the drinking culture is different over there,

1621
01:16:25,572 --> 01:16:30,093
Speaker 24: Like you know, you have like people over here and

1622
01:16:30,133 --> 01:16:32,492
Speaker 24: they go, oh, you know, he's like to drink their drinks.

1623
01:16:32,492 --> 01:16:34,412
Speaker 24: You know, they get get on it and this and that.

1624
01:16:34,772 --> 01:16:39,492
Speaker 24: But it's it's it's further than that. It's it's it's

1625
01:16:39,732 --> 01:16:43,972
Speaker 24: just it's not the case. They're not boozers as we

1626
01:16:44,013 --> 01:16:47,892
Speaker 24: are here. And the drinking culture is just so different.

1627
01:16:48,053 --> 01:16:51,492
Speaker 24: Like you've you're almost raised around a pub or you know,

1628
01:16:51,652 --> 01:16:55,053
Speaker 24: be a rural one or in a city one. It's

1629
01:16:55,133 --> 01:16:59,532
Speaker 24: not a taboo kind of place that you go to.

1630
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:04,053
Speaker 24: There's good food. It's it's almost like a community hub, right,

1631
01:17:04,053 --> 01:17:06,652
Speaker 24: and we don't have that, Like we don't have that,

1632
01:17:06,973 --> 01:17:10,973
Speaker 24: ye and like using that, using even using Sydney as

1633
01:17:10,973 --> 01:17:14,452
Speaker 24: an example. You know, I lived in a city Sydney

1634
01:17:14,492 --> 01:17:19,173
Speaker 24: for for years and you know, even there, there's every

1635
01:17:19,492 --> 01:17:24,372
Speaker 24: second corner has got a great pub and they're knowing

1636
01:17:24,452 --> 01:17:26,892
Speaker 24: for their different things and like, you know, the beers

1637
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:30,732
Speaker 24: are cheap, they're cold, the food is like we were

1638
01:17:30,772 --> 01:17:32,772
Speaker 24: blown away when we moved over because we were like

1639
01:17:33,173 --> 01:17:37,052
Speaker 24: you could go and have a ten dollar steak, rump steak,

1640
01:17:37,532 --> 01:17:41,772
Speaker 24: but you know, rump steak chips salad and ten bar

1641
01:17:42,372 --> 01:17:46,372
Speaker 24: like you wouldn't get that hair. It's it's crazy.

1642
01:17:47,173 --> 01:17:50,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember there's there's that way as well in England.

1643
01:17:50,532 --> 01:17:52,013
Speaker 2: I remember when I lived over there. I lived in

1644
01:17:52,013 --> 01:17:55,333
Speaker 2: a subur good Highgate and you know, I'd get off

1645
01:17:55,372 --> 01:17:57,173
Speaker 2: the tube and I'd go and have dinner there before

1646
01:17:57,173 --> 01:17:59,213
Speaker 2: I went home, and there'd be families that always had

1647
01:17:59,213 --> 01:18:00,572
Speaker 2: their dinner at the pub and you might have a

1648
01:18:00,612 --> 01:18:02,333
Speaker 2: pint before you went home. It was a very different

1649
01:18:02,372 --> 01:18:06,812
Speaker 2: approach to to bars. And there's no doubt there's some

1650
01:18:06,893 --> 01:18:08,612
Speaker 2: people that went went hard, but it was just a

1651
01:18:08,652 --> 01:18:11,852
Speaker 2: slightly more community center, ye kind of situation.

1652
01:18:12,293 --> 01:18:15,253
Speaker 3: Good discussion. Thank you very much to everybody that called

1653
01:18:15,293 --> 01:18:17,692
Speaker 3: in text, and thank you Ben. And I think it

1654
01:18:17,772 --> 01:18:19,412
Speaker 3: is clear that we need to do something to help

1655
01:18:19,452 --> 01:18:23,013
Speaker 3: out hospitality because it is a life blood of a

1656
01:18:23,053 --> 01:18:25,213
Speaker 3: country and they're struggling at the moment. But we've got

1657
01:18:25,213 --> 01:18:28,013
Speaker 3: something new on the table. After three o'clock, let's talk

1658
01:18:28,053 --> 01:18:29,333
Speaker 3: about streak kids.

1659
01:18:33,572 --> 01:18:35,333
Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon.

1660
01:18:35,532 --> 01:18:38,892
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoon with the Volvo

1661
01:18:39,213 --> 01:18:40,532
Speaker 1: XC ninety used talk.

1662
01:18:40,452 --> 01:18:46,492
Speaker 3: ZIB Good afternoon, Hope you're having a great Monday afternoon.

1663
01:18:46,652 --> 01:18:48,172
Speaker 3: And a good discussion ahead.

1664
01:18:48,853 --> 01:18:52,053
Speaker 2: On the weekends, I went along to Eden Park to

1665
01:18:52,213 --> 01:18:56,333
Speaker 2: watch the Blues play the Chiefs as a fantastic crowd,

1666
01:18:56,492 --> 01:19:03,732
Speaker 2: fantastic event. Unfortunately the Blues lost, but it was exciting

1667
01:19:03,732 --> 01:19:05,812
Speaker 2: super rugby. I thought across the weekend the changes that

1668
01:19:05,812 --> 01:19:08,572
Speaker 2: they've made have really really sped things up.

1669
01:19:08,612 --> 01:19:11,372
Speaker 3: That was fantastic, great start to the competition, wasn't it.

1670
01:19:11,572 --> 01:19:14,093
Speaker 2: There were a lot of streakers at Eden Park and

1671
01:19:14,093 --> 01:19:17,732
Speaker 2: there were streakers across the country. It's an interesting thing streaking.

1672
01:19:17,933 --> 01:19:20,812
Speaker 2: I've got a few questions about it. Why, why do

1673
01:19:20,812 --> 01:19:22,372
Speaker 2: people want to streak? What do they get out of it?

1674
01:19:22,372 --> 01:19:24,213
Speaker 2: What does the streaker get out of it? Yeah, the

1675
01:19:24,253 --> 01:19:26,652
Speaker 2: crowd seems to cheer when people streak, but it's a

1676
01:19:26,692 --> 01:19:29,372
Speaker 2: little bit more complex than that for the venues because

1677
01:19:29,372 --> 01:19:31,253
Speaker 2: they don't know who's going on to the field. So

1678
01:19:31,293 --> 01:19:33,572
Speaker 2: what do people think about streaking under at eighty ten?

1679
01:19:33,652 --> 01:19:37,412
Speaker 2: Eighty nine two nine two's the text number? Yeah, because

1680
01:19:37,452 --> 01:19:42,652
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't know, you know, like, yeah, it's

1681
01:19:43,293 --> 01:19:46,812
Speaker 2: an interesting one because the crowd cheers. I've got I've

1682
01:19:46,812 --> 01:19:49,053
Speaker 2: got absolutely no time for streaking. If it gets in

1683
01:19:49,093 --> 01:19:52,092
Speaker 2: the way of play, if people make it about themselves.

1684
01:19:52,133 --> 01:19:54,772
Speaker 2: Got absolutely no time for that. It's really weird type

1685
01:19:54,772 --> 01:19:56,692
Speaker 2: of streaking that you sometimes see where people run on

1686
01:19:56,732 --> 01:19:59,732
Speaker 2: and they're filming themselves for the TikTok. Those people should

1687
01:19:59,732 --> 01:20:00,693
Speaker 2: be tasered immediately.

1688
01:20:00,772 --> 01:20:03,692
Speaker 3: Absolutely terrible. It can't be taken a selfie way. You're streaking.

1689
01:20:03,732 --> 01:20:05,812
Speaker 2: There's people that run on at Eden Park that had

1690
01:20:05,812 --> 01:20:09,852
Speaker 2: their pants still on, which is just running on the perchain.

1691
01:20:09,973 --> 01:20:13,213
Speaker 2: Yeah that's white man. Yeah, so what do people think

1692
01:20:13,253 --> 01:20:16,173
Speaker 2: about it? I mean, venues have to be cracked down

1693
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:19,372
Speaker 2: on it. There could not be a situation where streaking

1694
01:20:19,492 --> 01:20:20,532
Speaker 2: was just allowed to happen.

1695
01:20:20,612 --> 01:20:22,372
Speaker 3: Oh it's a security thing, isn't it. You know, you

1696
01:20:22,412 --> 01:20:24,532
Speaker 3: don't know what sort of weird I was going to

1697
01:20:24,572 --> 01:20:26,852
Speaker 3: be jumping on the field. And a lot of these

1698
01:20:26,853 --> 01:20:29,492
Speaker 3: people must be slightly strange if they're taking off all

1699
01:20:29,532 --> 01:20:32,933
Speaker 3: their cat and running on to a rugby field with

1700
01:20:32,973 --> 01:20:35,133
Speaker 3: thirty thousand spectators to have a look at the air

1701
01:20:35,333 --> 01:20:37,452
Speaker 3: downstairs operation. I mean, it's a strange thing to do.

1702
01:20:37,692 --> 01:20:39,852
Speaker 2: It is definitely a strange thing to do. I mean

1703
01:20:39,893 --> 01:20:42,452
Speaker 2: we you know, the most famous streak in New Zealand,

1704
01:20:42,452 --> 01:20:45,572
Speaker 2: I guess, was at Eden Park in nineteen seventy seven.

1705
01:20:45,572 --> 01:20:49,612
Speaker 2: When Greg Chapel, the Australian captain, grabbed the streaker who

1706
01:20:49,692 --> 01:20:52,133
Speaker 2: had very had some white headphones on the streaker in

1707
01:20:52,173 --> 01:20:57,052
Speaker 2: a very white bottom and heavy tan lines and Greg

1708
01:20:57,093 --> 01:20:59,812
Speaker 2: Chapel just grabbed him and whacked them around the bump.

1709
01:20:59,893 --> 01:21:02,132
Speaker 3: He would have got a massive bruising on his butt.

1710
01:21:02,452 --> 01:21:04,852
Speaker 2: They wouldn't let him go because he was so sick

1711
01:21:04,893 --> 01:21:07,652
Speaker 2: of it. And it used to be absolutely insane. If

1712
01:21:07,692 --> 01:21:10,372
Speaker 2: you watch the nineteen ninety one Cricket World Cup, is

1713
01:21:10,372 --> 01:21:12,612
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety two Cricket World Cup. Footage of that

1714
01:21:12,732 --> 01:21:16,812
Speaker 2: comes sometimes pops up on my Cricket Gold channel on

1715
01:21:16,812 --> 01:21:20,093
Speaker 2: my TV. The people just ran on the field. It

1716
01:21:20,133 --> 01:21:25,692
Speaker 2: was absolutely anarchy, you know. And when your team won,

1717
01:21:25,732 --> 01:21:27,692
Speaker 2: when the New Zealand team one, you'd have to sprint

1718
01:21:27,732 --> 01:21:30,812
Speaker 2: off like you've got Martin Crow sprinting off the field

1719
01:21:31,333 --> 01:21:33,652
Speaker 2: as everyone came in running for their lives.

1720
01:21:34,692 --> 01:21:35,412
Speaker 3: That is insane.

1721
01:21:35,452 --> 01:21:38,173
Speaker 2: That was a crazy situation. Certainly was yeah.

1722
01:21:37,893 --> 01:21:39,892
Speaker 3: But you find them entertaining. I mean, I know it

1723
01:21:39,933 --> 01:21:41,973
Speaker 3: is a tough one and you were there and the

1724
01:21:41,973 --> 01:21:45,692
Speaker 3: crowd start yahooeen, so by that element there's a little

1725
01:21:45,692 --> 01:21:48,773
Speaker 3: bit of entertainment there. But I think it's dropped off substantially,

1726
01:21:48,853 --> 01:21:50,892
Speaker 3: where a lot more people would look at that and say,

1727
01:21:51,173 --> 01:21:53,732
Speaker 3: I think they call it the main character syndrome, that

1728
01:21:53,853 --> 01:21:57,852
Speaker 3: that person thinks are the main character and just ruining

1729
01:21:58,732 --> 01:22:00,412
Speaker 3: the experience for a lot a lot of other people.

1730
01:22:00,772 --> 01:22:05,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, because I do like perk up

1731
01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:07,492
Speaker 2: and watch when someone strets. I'm not sure if I

1732
01:22:07,492 --> 01:22:09,812
Speaker 2: think it's a good thing. It's just so weird. It's

1733
01:22:09,853 --> 01:22:11,492
Speaker 2: just such a weird thing. You're watching a game of

1734
01:22:11,572 --> 01:22:14,012
Speaker 2: rugby and then there's suddenly some nude guy run across

1735
01:22:14,053 --> 01:22:17,293
Speaker 2: the field and you're like why, and then the security

1736
01:22:17,652 --> 01:22:20,093
Speaker 2: slam him on the ground and drag them off, And

1737
01:22:20,133 --> 01:22:23,253
Speaker 2: it nearly always is a dude that's doing it. There

1738
01:22:23,253 --> 01:22:26,453
Speaker 2: was a famous female streaker, but I think that was organized.

1739
01:22:26,933 --> 01:22:30,812
Speaker 2: We all know that that incident. But also I totally

1740
01:22:30,853 --> 01:22:32,612
Speaker 2: see it from the stadium's point of view that they

1741
01:22:32,652 --> 01:22:35,692
Speaker 2: can't allow it because you don't know in this day

1742
01:22:35,732 --> 01:22:38,333
Speaker 2: and age, whether the person's what their intention is when

1743
01:22:38,333 --> 01:22:40,973
Speaker 2: they run on the field. It could be someone protesting

1744
01:22:41,013 --> 01:22:45,572
Speaker 2: some strange thing and a player could get injured. So

1745
01:22:46,213 --> 01:22:48,973
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know where I said. I

1746
01:22:49,492 --> 01:22:53,093
Speaker 2: think it has to be cracked down on because but

1747
01:22:53,372 --> 01:22:54,972
Speaker 2: I would be lying if I say I don't find

1748
01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:56,532
Speaker 2: it amusing when it happens.

1749
01:22:56,253 --> 01:22:59,812
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be against the security guards having tases. And

1750
01:23:00,173 --> 01:23:02,133
Speaker 3: if you want to try and give it a crack

1751
01:23:02,213 --> 01:23:05,173
Speaker 3: and streaking air a football match, you've got to make

1752
01:23:05,213 --> 01:23:08,333
Speaker 3: it past the security guards with tasers. Good luck to you.

1753
01:23:08,372 --> 01:23:11,253
Speaker 3: If you get onto the pitch butt naked, okay, well done.

1754
01:23:11,333 --> 01:23:13,572
Speaker 3: But then if you get taken down by a security guard,

1755
01:23:13,612 --> 01:23:16,213
Speaker 3: whether it's being clotheslined as is the case now, or

1756
01:23:16,253 --> 01:23:19,652
Speaker 3: taken out with a taser, then I think fair enough. Yeah,

1757
01:23:19,772 --> 01:23:21,772
Speaker 3: those security guards have got a job to do, which

1758
01:23:21,812 --> 01:23:23,892
Speaker 3: is keep people off the pitch. If they need tases

1759
01:23:23,933 --> 01:23:27,333
Speaker 3: to do that, give them dases. Well, it felt like.

1760
01:23:27,492 --> 01:23:29,612
Speaker 2: At Eton Park there was some kind of orchestrated attack

1761
01:23:29,612 --> 01:23:32,133
Speaker 2: because a lot of people from different directions came on

1762
01:23:32,333 --> 01:23:35,133
Speaker 2: at the same time. Yeah, yeah, Well your thoughts on

1763
01:23:35,253 --> 01:23:38,772
Speaker 2: streaking eight hundred and eighty ten eighty ninety two. Should

1764
01:23:38,772 --> 01:23:44,213
Speaker 2: there be bigger fines? Should the stadiums be empowered to

1765
01:23:45,173 --> 01:23:47,653
Speaker 2: you know, because the fines are much bigger in Australia.

1766
01:23:47,692 --> 01:23:50,572
Speaker 2: I know that the stadium's got together and wrote letters

1767
01:23:52,053 --> 01:23:55,492
Speaker 2: to the previous government asking for the fine to be

1768
01:23:55,492 --> 01:23:58,452
Speaker 2: at least five thousand dollars to be applied and enforced

1769
01:23:58,452 --> 01:24:02,333
Speaker 2: by spectators and entering, that enforced on spectators entering the

1770
01:24:02,333 --> 01:24:04,492
Speaker 2: field to play, and a higher fine of ten thousand

1771
01:24:04,532 --> 01:24:07,772
Speaker 2: dollars or similar be applied in instances where the pitch

1772
01:24:07,772 --> 01:24:11,812
Speaker 2: invasion strupts the event taking place, and that that lifetime

1773
01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:16,732
Speaker 2: bands be considered by offenders across all stadiums. So stadium

1774
01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:20,772
Speaker 2: operators wrote to the government to grant Robertson the Minister

1775
01:24:20,812 --> 01:24:23,213
Speaker 2: of Sport in June twenty twenty three, but no action

1776
01:24:23,293 --> 01:24:24,013
Speaker 2: has been taken on that.

1777
01:24:24,293 --> 01:24:25,973
Speaker 3: I actually think, you know, there should be a bit

1778
01:24:26,013 --> 01:24:28,732
Speaker 3: of code of conduct between streakers themselves. When I watched

1779
01:24:28,772 --> 01:24:31,932
Speaker 3: that video and that streaker had been taken down and

1780
01:24:31,973 --> 01:24:35,372
Speaker 3: then he wriggled out of the security guard's arms and

1781
01:24:35,372 --> 01:24:37,772
Speaker 3: then started running, and I thought, no, that's not fair play.

1782
01:24:38,013 --> 01:24:40,333
Speaker 3: You get if you get tackled, streaker, then you're done.

1783
01:24:40,532 --> 01:24:43,253
Speaker 3: That's it. You can't just wriggle out because you button

1784
01:24:43,293 --> 01:24:44,972
Speaker 3: naked and keep going. That's not how it works.

1785
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:45,133
Speaker 7: Well.

1786
01:24:45,133 --> 01:24:48,372
Speaker 2: You think about your job, though, Tyler, say every now

1787
01:24:48,412 --> 01:24:50,492
Speaker 2: and then you came to work and I'd strip naked

1788
01:24:50,492 --> 01:24:51,772
Speaker 2: and you had to tackle me and take me out

1789
01:24:51,812 --> 01:24:53,732
Speaker 2: of the building. Right, yeah, I think you'd start complaining.

1790
01:24:53,933 --> 01:24:57,612
Speaker 2: As a job you know, you should rightfully be expect

1791
01:24:57,612 --> 01:24:59,652
Speaker 2: to go to work without me getting nude, running around

1792
01:24:59,652 --> 01:25:00,972
Speaker 2: the table and you having to take me out.

1793
01:25:01,692 --> 01:25:03,053
Speaker 3: Decent pay rise event was a case.

1794
01:25:03,053 --> 01:25:05,333
Speaker 2: You see what my point is there. If you're going

1795
01:25:05,372 --> 01:25:08,852
Speaker 2: to work to be security, you know it is part

1796
01:25:08,853 --> 01:25:12,213
Speaker 2: of your job to have to be grabbing a naked

1797
01:25:12,293 --> 01:25:14,652
Speaker 2: dude around the butt. You'd hope not getting is all

1798
01:25:14,692 --> 01:25:17,013
Speaker 2: business up in your face. I mean, I don't know.

1799
01:25:17,452 --> 01:25:19,133
Speaker 2: It seems a little bit unfair on them.

1800
01:25:19,452 --> 01:25:21,492
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1801
01:25:21,492 --> 01:25:24,053
Speaker 3: to call. Nineteen ninety two is the text number. It's

1802
01:25:24,173 --> 01:25:29,532
Speaker 3: fourteen past three, sixteen past three. We're talking about streaking

1803
01:25:29,532 --> 01:25:32,172
Speaker 3: on the back of the opening of the Super Rugby competition.

1804
01:25:32,213 --> 01:25:34,053
Speaker 3: A lot of streakers.

1805
01:25:34,532 --> 01:25:40,052
Speaker 2: So currently under the Events Management Act, a conviction provides

1806
01:25:40,133 --> 01:25:42,892
Speaker 2: conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding three months

1807
01:25:42,933 --> 01:25:45,572
Speaker 2: or a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars. But you know,

1808
01:25:45,612 --> 01:25:48,692
Speaker 2: a pretty light approach is generally taken to streaking. So

1809
01:25:48,812 --> 01:25:52,412
Speaker 2: what do you think about Let's go to the phones. Aaron,

1810
01:25:52,532 --> 01:25:55,372
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. How are you today?

1811
01:25:55,412 --> 01:25:55,812
Speaker 13: Good things?

1812
01:25:55,853 --> 01:25:56,053
Speaker 7: Mate?

1813
01:25:56,053 --> 01:25:56,173
Speaker 13: Here?

1814
01:25:56,173 --> 01:25:58,053
Speaker 2: Are you very good? You want to talk about a

1815
01:25:58,053 --> 01:26:04,492
Speaker 2: Blooderslow cup streaker? Yeah, yeah, sorry I said you look

1816
01:26:04,492 --> 01:26:06,053
Speaker 2: oh yeah, no I saying that you want to talk

1817
01:26:06,093 --> 01:26:07,532
Speaker 2: about a Bladerslow cup streaker.

1818
01:26:08,732 --> 01:26:10,492
Speaker 13: Yeah, that was me streaker?

1819
01:26:11,093 --> 01:26:16,213
Speaker 2: You were you were the streaker. Oh Son took us

1820
01:26:16,253 --> 01:26:19,133
Speaker 2: through this, this this situation, the voteraphone streaker. What do

1821
01:26:19,173 --> 01:26:19,772
Speaker 2: you mean by that?

1822
01:26:21,213 --> 01:26:22,253
Speaker 13: There was two of us have done it?

1823
01:26:24,893 --> 01:26:27,133
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, breaking up.

1824
01:26:28,293 --> 01:26:33,333
Speaker 13: We had votaphone PXT written on on ourself and yeah

1825
01:26:33,372 --> 01:26:35,412
Speaker 13: we we lost the game, that's right?

1826
01:26:35,452 --> 01:26:37,852
Speaker 3: And you was it you or your mate held up

1827
01:26:37,933 --> 01:26:38,772
Speaker 3: Andrew Mutens?

1828
01:26:38,772 --> 01:26:41,133
Speaker 13: As part of that was that.

1829
01:26:41,812 --> 01:26:43,972
Speaker 3: One of you held up Andrew Murtens? Is that right?

1830
01:26:48,652 --> 01:26:48,812
Speaker 8: Right?

1831
01:26:48,853 --> 01:26:50,892
Speaker 3: Oh, we've gotta we've gotta, we've got a terrible line

1832
01:26:51,053 --> 01:26:52,892
Speaker 3: era and we really want to check you a little

1833
01:26:52,933 --> 01:26:56,812
Speaker 3: bit more. Just move to the left or right and

1834
01:26:56,853 --> 01:26:59,372
Speaker 3: we'll keep we'll keep talking with you. Hopefully that comes right.

1835
01:26:59,452 --> 01:27:02,492
Speaker 3: So clearly, clearly that was a corporate stunt era. And

1836
01:27:02,572 --> 01:27:06,653
Speaker 3: what did you get for your your pardon streaking?

1837
01:27:08,652 --> 01:27:12,333
Speaker 13: Well, I can tell you I want to paid by votaphone.

1838
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:17,053
Speaker 13: But yes, I was paid and there was a deal there.

1839
01:27:17,372 --> 01:27:18,973
Speaker 13: We were if we made it on the field, we're

1840
01:27:18,973 --> 01:27:22,372
Speaker 13: going to get five hundred bucks. If we made it

1841
01:27:22,412 --> 01:27:25,293
Speaker 13: on TV, we get a thousand bucks. And at the

1842
01:27:25,293 --> 01:27:28,452
Speaker 13: time I was living at Manly on Modern Beaches. They

1843
01:27:28,452 --> 01:27:30,852
Speaker 13: paid for a TAXI paid for the picket, pay for

1844
01:27:30,853 --> 01:27:36,133
Speaker 13: a hotel room and yeah to pay hotel room, paid

1845
01:27:36,173 --> 01:27:38,572
Speaker 13: yourselves up and a week ago.

1846
01:27:39,053 --> 01:27:39,852
Speaker 2: So who paid you?

1847
01:27:41,973 --> 01:27:45,333
Speaker 13: The promotions company at the time, right, and so.

1848
01:27:46,133 --> 01:27:48,452
Speaker 2: Vota Phones promotional company.

1849
01:27:48,612 --> 01:27:51,253
Speaker 13: Yeah, wow, they didn't actually pay for it.

1850
01:27:51,013 --> 01:27:53,053
Speaker 3: So how much did you get in the end? You see,

1851
01:27:53,053 --> 01:27:55,492
Speaker 3: five hundred for getting on the field? Was there a

1852
01:27:55,532 --> 01:27:59,372
Speaker 3: bonus if you managed to survive on the field for longer?

1853
01:28:00,293 --> 01:28:02,252
Speaker 3: I tell you another another grand Yeah.

1854
01:28:02,933 --> 01:28:04,812
Speaker 13: Yeah, we've got a ground all up and my fine

1855
01:28:04,973 --> 01:28:06,492
Speaker 13: paid for So twenty.

1856
01:28:06,333 --> 01:28:09,173
Speaker 2: Three years after that event, how do you feel about it?

1857
01:28:11,732 --> 01:28:14,933
Speaker 13: Ah, it was a good time. I'll tell you that

1858
01:28:16,492 --> 01:28:18,612
Speaker 13: everybody knew me. My grandparents are proud.

1859
01:28:21,293 --> 01:28:23,293
Speaker 2: So can you see can you see it from the

1860
01:28:23,372 --> 01:28:26,852
Speaker 2: stadium's point of view and securities point of view that

1861
01:28:26,853 --> 01:28:30,693
Speaker 2: that it's that it can't be allowed to happen regularly?

1862
01:28:31,973 --> 01:28:32,013
Speaker 4: No?

1863
01:28:33,053 --> 01:28:36,173
Speaker 13: Yeah, one and at the time it was only two

1864
01:28:36,213 --> 01:28:40,333
Speaker 13: and a dollar fine for entering the field. Now two

1865
01:28:40,372 --> 01:28:42,532
Speaker 13: thousands or five thousand, they put it up to straight.

1866
01:28:42,333 --> 01:28:47,612
Speaker 2: Away, did you get a band from stadiums? Nos?

1867
01:28:47,692 --> 01:28:52,492
Speaker 13: Out there. Probably three or four weeks later, the Warriors play.

1868
01:28:53,772 --> 01:29:00,532
Speaker 2: Did you keep did you keep your pants on? So

1869
01:29:00,652 --> 01:29:02,092
Speaker 2: you do you have any regrets?

1870
01:29:04,093 --> 01:29:05,852
Speaker 13: I regret that we lost the game.

1871
01:29:06,933 --> 01:29:08,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big one.

1872
01:29:09,013 --> 01:29:11,932
Speaker 13: At the time we were winning, but we didn't disrupt

1873
01:29:11,973 --> 01:29:16,052
Speaker 13: the game either. We ran on when it was a penalty,

1874
01:29:16,093 --> 01:29:19,972
Speaker 13: so we didn't actually disrupt the game. You know, sou

1875
01:29:20,093 --> 01:29:22,132
Speaker 13: the game you're an idiot?

1876
01:29:22,452 --> 01:29:25,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean that that sort of

1877
01:29:25,572 --> 01:29:28,732
Speaker 2: happened at Eden Park. Guy was getting very close to

1878
01:29:28,772 --> 01:29:31,333
Speaker 2: the back line and that annoys me because that's, as

1879
01:29:31,372 --> 01:29:35,253
Speaker 2: you say, Tyler, that's main character syndrome. You know, people

1880
01:29:35,333 --> 01:29:36,812
Speaker 2: are here to watch the rugby. They're not here to

1881
01:29:36,853 --> 01:29:41,493
Speaker 2: watch your be a Buttah.

1882
01:29:39,853 --> 01:29:42,692
Speaker 13: She's going to do it when a break in the rugby,

1883
01:29:42,772 --> 01:29:45,333
Speaker 13: like an injury time or something like that, do not

1884
01:29:45,412 --> 01:29:48,532
Speaker 13: sit the game. People aren't there to who aren't there

1885
01:29:48,532 --> 01:29:48,933
Speaker 13: to watch you?

1886
01:29:49,893 --> 01:29:50,093
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1887
01:29:51,013 --> 01:29:53,133
Speaker 3: What I means to your mate he got arrested in me?

1888
01:29:54,253 --> 01:29:58,452
Speaker 13: Yeah, because yeah, he got charged because he refused to

1889
01:29:58,492 --> 01:30:01,173
Speaker 13: give his name. He wasn't my mate. She only mad

1890
01:30:01,213 --> 01:30:03,612
Speaker 13: him that night, but he refused. He'd sit the night

1891
01:30:03,732 --> 01:30:06,413
Speaker 13: and the girl for the police station.

1892
01:30:07,173 --> 01:30:10,012
Speaker 2: In the nerd or do they cover that again?

1893
01:30:11,572 --> 01:30:14,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very generous of them. But yeah, I mean

1894
01:30:14,333 --> 01:30:16,692
Speaker 3: did that did that stay on his record at all?

1895
01:30:16,772 --> 01:30:17,932
Speaker 3: You know, did it go to court?

1896
01:30:18,612 --> 01:30:18,772
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1897
01:30:18,772 --> 01:30:21,612
Speaker 13: Because he caught with the court. He got fined. See

1898
01:30:21,612 --> 01:30:23,732
Speaker 13: I only got fined seven hundred dollars. Was two hundred

1899
01:30:23,772 --> 01:30:27,093
Speaker 13: dollars for entering a playing field and five hundred dollars

1900
01:30:27,133 --> 01:30:30,732
Speaker 13: for behaving in a decent offensive manner. They're just instant tickets.

1901
01:30:30,732 --> 01:30:33,333
Speaker 13: There's no record of it. He went to court and

1902
01:30:33,333 --> 01:30:38,772
Speaker 13: got charged, So he's got those two charges on us. Ledger.

1903
01:30:39,812 --> 01:30:41,812
Speaker 2: Do you do you think do you think that you're streaking?

1904
01:30:42,133 --> 01:30:43,852
Speaker 2: Was why Andrew Muten's missed the cake?

1905
01:30:45,933 --> 01:30:45,973
Speaker 4: No?

1906
01:30:46,853 --> 01:30:50,492
Speaker 3: No, what did mer say? Mertz would beg to different

1907
01:30:50,572 --> 01:30:50,932
Speaker 3: than they.

1908
01:30:53,933 --> 01:30:58,732
Speaker 13: You told me to off somebody?

1909
01:31:00,652 --> 01:31:03,213
Speaker 2: Well, right, so you know you're you're one of New

1910
01:31:03,293 --> 01:31:06,612
Speaker 2: Zealand's most famous streakers. But but you you can see

1911
01:31:07,893 --> 01:31:10,213
Speaker 2: now that there are problems with streaking.

1912
01:31:11,452 --> 01:31:12,972
Speaker 13: Oh there is when you get like three or four

1913
01:31:13,013 --> 01:31:14,772
Speaker 13: people doing at a different title war at the same

1914
01:31:14,853 --> 01:31:16,572
Speaker 13: time or whatever, and there she upset in the game.

1915
01:31:17,293 --> 01:31:20,692
Speaker 2: It's a stupid Yeah, And from a security goes perspective,

1916
01:31:20,692 --> 01:31:23,333
Speaker 2: they don't necessarily want your tackle in their face while

1917
01:31:23,333 --> 01:31:23,852
Speaker 2: they tackle you.

1918
01:31:26,772 --> 01:31:30,692
Speaker 3: Almost not necessarily, as I think, Yeah, absolutely, they don't

1919
01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:30,893
Speaker 3: want that.

1920
01:31:31,572 --> 01:31:33,532
Speaker 2: It's not whether in the game window sport.

1921
01:31:33,612 --> 01:31:35,093
Speaker 13: You probably don't want to be maked either. It's a

1922
01:31:35,093 --> 01:31:35,652
Speaker 13: window sport.

1923
01:31:35,772 --> 01:31:36,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

1924
01:31:36,812 --> 01:31:39,412
Speaker 3: Well, Aaron, very good to chat with you, and thank

1925
01:31:39,452 --> 01:31:41,053
Speaker 3: you for being so upfront.

1926
01:31:41,213 --> 01:31:45,213
Speaker 2: In frank, thank you, Thank you so much, Aaron.

1927
01:31:45,452 --> 01:31:46,732
Speaker 3: But I do know about that. So what did he

1928
01:31:46,933 --> 01:31:48,972
Speaker 3: How much money did he get after he paid his fine?

1929
01:31:49,412 --> 01:31:51,612
Speaker 3: I think he ended up with about five hundred bucks

1930
01:31:51,692 --> 01:31:54,892
Speaker 3: to show your tackle in front of what forty thousand

1931
01:31:54,973 --> 01:31:56,973
Speaker 3: people to blitterslow. I don't know if that's worth it.

1932
01:31:58,492 --> 01:32:02,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean i'd ever do it.

1933
01:32:03,893 --> 01:32:06,333
Speaker 3: How much? How much would it take for me to

1934
01:32:06,412 --> 01:32:06,612
Speaker 3: do it?

1935
01:32:06,732 --> 01:32:08,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, there'll be no amount of money for me to

1936
01:32:08,732 --> 01:32:12,972
Speaker 2: do it. A million dollars, oh probably a million? Yeah, yeah, right,

1937
01:32:14,213 --> 01:32:14,852
Speaker 2: we can.

1938
01:32:14,772 --> 01:32:16,612
Speaker 3: Put the hat around you come on New Zealand. That's

1939
01:32:16,692 --> 01:32:17,532
Speaker 3: less than a dollar a piece.

1940
01:32:17,772 --> 01:32:21,372
Speaker 2: I just think, Yeah, I mean, if you if you're

1941
01:32:21,532 --> 01:32:24,692
Speaker 2: upsetting at the game, then then it's just not on.

1942
01:32:24,933 --> 01:32:27,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you work

1943
01:32:27,452 --> 01:32:30,213
Speaker 3: in security, love to hear from you on this as well.

1944
01:32:30,253 --> 01:32:32,213
Speaker 3: How do you feel about streakers? Nine to nine till

1945
01:32:32,333 --> 01:32:34,612
Speaker 3: is the text number? It is twenty three parts three.

1946
01:32:38,772 --> 01:32:42,412
Speaker 1: Madd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty

1947
01:32:42,492 --> 01:32:44,372
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1948
01:32:44,532 --> 01:32:47,253
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, how do we feel about streakers? On the

1949
01:32:47,293 --> 01:32:49,532
Speaker 3: back of a few streakers in the opening rounds of

1950
01:32:49,893 --> 01:32:52,973
Speaker 3: Super Rugby Pacific this weekend.

1951
01:32:52,772 --> 01:32:55,173
Speaker 2: This Texas says, I'd laugh at a streaker jumping into

1952
01:32:55,173 --> 01:32:57,532
Speaker 2: an MMA cage. See how that goes.

1953
01:32:57,853 --> 01:33:00,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is some guts if you're going

1954
01:33:00,692 --> 01:33:02,492
Speaker 3: to streak, going streak at the MEMA.

1955
01:33:02,492 --> 01:33:04,852
Speaker 2: Like Tiles and Maddie, I saw a game where the

1956
01:33:04,893 --> 01:33:08,253
Speaker 2: security guard actually broke a streaker's femur. They all haste

1957
01:33:08,412 --> 01:33:11,973
Speaker 2: hay stacked on the bugger, cheers Mikey. I mean if

1958
01:33:11,973 --> 01:33:13,412
Speaker 2: you if you run out into the field, then you

1959
01:33:13,853 --> 01:33:15,812
Speaker 2: get you get what's coming through, you know what's you

1960
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:19,253
Speaker 2: know what's coming. Yeah, you know what's coming. And that

1961
01:33:19,532 --> 01:33:23,293
Speaker 2: is a no sympathy. A lot of people are talking

1962
01:33:23,333 --> 01:33:24,933
Speaker 2: about this, and I heard this on Kerry Show this

1963
01:33:25,013 --> 01:33:28,012
Speaker 2: morning as well, about why is it that at venue,

1964
01:33:28,173 --> 01:33:31,692
Speaker 2: like at a stadium, the security can tackle a person,

1965
01:33:31,812 --> 01:33:33,452
Speaker 2: but and yet they seem to just let people walk

1966
01:33:33,452 --> 01:33:36,892
Speaker 2: out of supermarkets with trolleys and not forcibly stop them.

1967
01:33:36,933 --> 01:33:41,013
Speaker 2: It's a totally different situation. You're under a different you're

1968
01:33:41,133 --> 01:33:46,652
Speaker 2: under a different act. You're under the Major Events Management Act,

1969
01:33:47,093 --> 01:33:49,092
Speaker 2: and so when you go in and you buy your ticket,

1970
01:33:49,173 --> 01:33:52,092
Speaker 2: you are you are committing to not running on the field,

1971
01:33:52,452 --> 01:33:54,612
Speaker 2: and so once you've done that, you can be slammed.

1972
01:33:54,612 --> 01:33:56,452
Speaker 2: It's a totally different thing if you're leaving a supermarket.

1973
01:33:56,492 --> 01:33:59,452
Speaker 2: But I would support people that are trying to steal

1974
01:33:59,492 --> 01:34:03,253
Speaker 2: from supermarkets getting absolutely smashed by Red Badge.

1975
01:34:03,692 --> 01:34:07,133
Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, absolutely broken there as well. Why not you're

1976
01:34:07,133 --> 01:34:10,692
Speaker 3: stealing from a supermarket? Simon, how are you here this afternoon?

1977
01:34:12,013 --> 01:34:14,492
Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on the show, guys, And yeah, Matt,

1978
01:34:14,532 --> 01:34:16,692
Speaker 11: I'm halfway through your Orange book moment in a very

1979
01:34:16,692 --> 01:34:17,452
Speaker 11: good book by the way.

1980
01:34:17,612 --> 01:34:19,532
Speaker 2: Oh thank you so much, Simon. I appreciate that.

1981
01:34:20,812 --> 01:34:23,732
Speaker 11: Oh good read there, But what the trick is there?

1982
01:34:24,372 --> 01:34:26,652
Speaker 11: I was going to challenge any trickers actually calling and

1983
01:34:26,732 --> 01:34:28,852
Speaker 11: the first caller did, so I guess that's happened. But

1984
01:34:31,013 --> 01:34:34,293
Speaker 11: how many males strict compared to females. I can't remember

1985
01:34:34,333 --> 01:34:36,293
Speaker 11: seeing any females, but I know they have, but it

1986
01:34:36,333 --> 01:34:39,013
Speaker 11: seems that the majority of the males. But I think

1987
01:34:39,093 --> 01:34:42,253
Speaker 11: if the penalty was a complete band from all stadiums

1988
01:34:42,293 --> 01:34:44,572
Speaker 11: in New Zealand and it went on to your record,

1989
01:34:45,173 --> 01:34:47,253
Speaker 11: that could stop it. But then again, when you go

1990
01:34:47,372 --> 01:34:49,133
Speaker 11: to it, maybe a cricket game where you're there for

1991
01:34:49,452 --> 01:34:51,213
Speaker 11: you know, six or seven hours, and you start to

1992
01:34:51,253 --> 01:34:53,253
Speaker 11: get into the later part of the afternoon, you've had

1993
01:34:53,293 --> 01:34:56,013
Speaker 11: a few drinks in your and your mates are doing it.

1994
01:34:56,253 --> 01:34:59,973
Speaker 11: Then yeah, that's in your quite young university, in your

1995
01:35:00,173 --> 01:35:02,932
Speaker 11: twenties or thir is, it's you're probably more than likely

1996
01:35:03,013 --> 01:35:05,333
Speaker 11: to be egged on to do it then, but you

1997
01:35:05,492 --> 01:35:07,452
Speaker 11: almost know that you're going to be tackled down and

1998
01:35:07,532 --> 01:35:09,893
Speaker 11: carried off and taken out by the cops and not

1999
01:35:10,053 --> 01:35:13,093
Speaker 11: come back. And as I think, it's something that's very

2000
01:35:13,293 --> 01:35:14,812
Speaker 11: very hard to do. You now you can double the

2001
01:35:14,933 --> 01:35:18,173
Speaker 11: matter security guards and you might not make it across

2002
01:35:18,213 --> 01:35:21,293
Speaker 11: the other side, but still that thirty seconds of fame

2003
01:35:21,572 --> 01:35:24,732
Speaker 11: certainly is going to make it attractive for some people there.

2004
01:35:25,253 --> 01:35:27,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting kind of fame though, isn't it.

2005
01:35:27,412 --> 01:35:30,692
Speaker 2: So you know, because Mum's going to see that, Grandma

2006
01:35:30,853 --> 01:35:31,412
Speaker 2: is going to see that.

2007
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:32,572
Speaker 16: Yeah.

2008
01:35:32,772 --> 01:35:34,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe your mates think you're cool, but.

2009
01:35:35,973 --> 01:35:38,893
Speaker 3: For the rest of the family, awkward Christmas time discussions.

2010
01:35:39,973 --> 01:35:41,973
Speaker 11: Yeah, and then then that last guy is talking about it,

2011
01:35:42,013 --> 01:35:44,652
Speaker 11: what twenty twenty five, thirty years later after he did it,

2012
01:35:44,772 --> 01:35:48,052
Speaker 11: So yeah, I don't think there's any money that would

2013
01:35:48,933 --> 01:35:50,772
Speaker 11: would and he gave me to do it, you know,

2014
01:35:50,893 --> 01:35:55,532
Speaker 11: million dollars. Yeah, I mean basically, yeah, if it's on

2015
01:35:55,652 --> 01:35:58,692
Speaker 11: your record, then it's going to prevent you from traveled

2016
01:35:58,812 --> 01:36:01,812
Speaker 11: to a degree in and ployment situation. So yeah, and

2017
01:36:01,893 --> 01:36:03,973
Speaker 11: if you put a complete ban on all stadiums in

2018
01:36:04,053 --> 01:36:06,452
Speaker 11: New Zealands, I don't think the infrastructure is there to

2019
01:36:06,572 --> 01:36:09,173
Speaker 11: be able to if you did it at the it's

2020
01:36:09,572 --> 01:36:11,612
Speaker 11: in Auckland. I don't think the seven infrastructure there to

2021
01:36:11,652 --> 01:36:13,893
Speaker 11: stop you getting into the studium in christ Church or

2022
01:36:13,933 --> 01:36:17,372
Speaker 11: Wellington or the Mead a year or two later. You

2023
01:36:17,452 --> 01:36:20,412
Speaker 11: know that's yeah, there's not enough to tenrant there to

2024
01:36:20,452 --> 01:36:22,732
Speaker 11: stop you doing it in that way. But yeah, I

2025
01:36:22,772 --> 01:36:24,812
Speaker 11: think there's always going to be an element of younger

2026
01:36:24,853 --> 01:36:25,772
Speaker 11: people that are going to do it.

2027
01:36:26,013 --> 01:36:30,532
Speaker 2: So yeah, Well, in twenty twenty three, the you know,

2028
01:36:30,692 --> 01:36:34,732
Speaker 2: the the leaders of basically all of New Zealand's major

2029
01:36:34,772 --> 01:36:36,973
Speaker 2: stadiums written wrote to the government and asked that the

2030
01:36:37,053 --> 01:36:40,812
Speaker 2: fine be at least five thousand be changed. In the mema,

2031
01:36:41,093 --> 01:36:43,173
Speaker 2: that the fine of at least five thousand dollars be

2032
01:36:43,213 --> 01:36:45,572
Speaker 2: applied and forced for spectators entering the field to play,

2033
01:36:45,652 --> 01:36:48,612
Speaker 2: and a higher fine of ten thousand dollars or similar applied.

2034
01:36:48,692 --> 01:36:51,972
Speaker 2: And this is where the pitch incursion disrupts the event

2035
01:36:52,053 --> 01:36:54,372
Speaker 2: taking place. You don't think the potential for a ten

2036
01:36:54,412 --> 01:36:57,213
Speaker 2: thousand dollars fine would would stop someone.

2037
01:37:01,133 --> 01:37:02,812
Speaker 11: If you haven't had a lot of drink, then you

2038
01:37:02,893 --> 01:37:05,452
Speaker 11: probably think about ten thousand dollars. But most you've had

2039
01:37:05,492 --> 01:37:07,253
Speaker 11: a few drinks and it's you know, three o'clock in

2040
01:37:07,293 --> 01:37:09,732
Speaker 11: the afternoon and a quicker and then you're not going

2041
01:37:09,772 --> 01:37:12,612
Speaker 11: to think of those conflicts, those consequences. You're just going

2042
01:37:12,692 --> 01:37:14,452
Speaker 11: to be egged on by your mates. You're a bit

2043
01:37:14,572 --> 01:37:17,692
Speaker 11: gullible and you're going to just in about ten seconds,

2044
01:37:17,692 --> 01:37:19,812
Speaker 11: you're going to down to take it and you're going

2045
01:37:19,853 --> 01:37:23,293
Speaker 11: to be gone. And after in the afternoon, the security

2046
01:37:23,333 --> 01:37:25,452
Speaker 11: guards getting a bit tired to bend on the feet

2047
01:37:25,492 --> 01:37:29,012
Speaker 11: all day. It's a hot day, and here comes a streaker.

2048
01:37:29,173 --> 01:37:31,532
Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, it's a security thing. You could do

2049
01:37:31,692 --> 01:37:33,732
Speaker 11: something to one of the players or something like that.

2050
01:37:33,933 --> 01:37:37,013
Speaker 11: But yeah, it depends what the streaker is going to do.

2051
01:37:37,013 --> 01:37:39,012
Speaker 11: If the streects is going to run across the other side,

2052
01:37:39,133 --> 01:37:42,412
Speaker 11: jump the fence and into the crowd, that's fine. If

2053
01:37:42,412 --> 01:37:44,812
Speaker 11: they're going to keep running around then and just keep

2054
01:37:44,853 --> 01:37:48,372
Speaker 11: doing laps for a minute, then you're going to get caught. Yeah,

2055
01:37:48,532 --> 01:37:50,013
Speaker 11: it depends how far you go.

2056
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:53,253
Speaker 3: What about a what about a spanking from Greek Chapel

2057
01:37:53,293 --> 01:37:55,932
Speaker 3: that would stop you doing it again? Surely it's pretty embarrassing.

2058
01:37:57,732 --> 01:38:01,452
Speaker 11: It probably just adds to the ads to you being

2059
01:38:01,532 --> 01:38:03,092
Speaker 11: able to boast about it later.

2060
01:38:02,973 --> 01:38:05,133
Speaker 7: On the.

2061
01:38:07,492 --> 01:38:10,333
Speaker 2: Great Greek Tap. If we're going back to ninety seventy seven,

2062
01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:13,733
Speaker 2: Greek Chapel was run out. Was he was so discombobulated

2063
01:38:13,812 --> 01:38:17,012
Speaker 2: by the streaker that he had rightfully grabbed and whacked

2064
01:38:17,053 --> 01:38:19,612
Speaker 2: repeatedly around the bare bottom with his bat. But but

2065
01:38:19,893 --> 01:38:22,412
Speaker 2: he didn't get over it in great trouble, very easy

2066
01:38:22,492 --> 01:38:23,652
Speaker 2: run out in the next delivery.

2067
01:38:24,853 --> 01:38:27,293
Speaker 11: That would be certainly something to bust a back going forward,

2068
01:38:27,532 --> 01:38:29,852
Speaker 11: and we certainly wouldn't go for a job, a job

2069
01:38:29,893 --> 01:38:34,253
Speaker 11: in the events, but that's certainly something that's you'd be

2070
01:38:34,532 --> 01:38:36,532
Speaker 11: in the way. You'd be pretty proud if I would imagine.

2071
01:38:37,333 --> 01:38:40,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, Simon, this thank you so much for your call, Simon,

2072
01:38:40,732 --> 01:38:44,612
Speaker 2: and thank you for reading my book. Thanks. Thanks. This

2073
01:38:44,772 --> 01:38:47,612
Speaker 2: is interesting. Would be pretty funny if the punish punishment

2074
01:38:47,692 --> 01:38:49,372
Speaker 2: was being put on a sex offended register.

2075
01:38:50,333 --> 01:38:51,452
Speaker 3: That would stop streakers.

2076
01:38:51,612 --> 01:38:51,812
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2077
01:38:53,612 --> 01:38:56,133
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is number to call?

2078
01:38:56,293 --> 01:38:57,412
Speaker 3: Is that what happens in America?

2079
01:38:57,732 --> 01:39:00,852
Speaker 2: It's interesting around Yeah, I mean I think you can

2080
01:39:00,973 --> 01:39:05,572
Speaker 2: there's some quite quite full on, you know, repercussions for

2081
01:39:05,612 --> 01:39:08,053
Speaker 2: being nude around children because of are our children at grounds? Right,

2082
01:39:08,532 --> 01:39:11,692
Speaker 2: So it's an interesting idea. So what's worse in your

2083
01:39:12,093 --> 01:39:15,133
Speaker 2: and your opinion Tyler and everyone's opinion nineteen nine two,

2084
01:39:15,253 --> 01:39:20,812
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty teen eighty running nude through a shopping mall, yep,

2085
01:39:21,213 --> 01:39:24,173
Speaker 2: or running onto the field at a stadium or.

2086
01:39:24,812 --> 01:39:26,172
Speaker 3: We in society standards?

2087
01:39:26,293 --> 01:39:29,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just I mean the kind of the similar thing, right,

2088
01:39:29,253 --> 01:39:31,932
Speaker 2: someone could get really you know, hyped up and run

2089
01:39:31,973 --> 01:39:33,052
Speaker 2: through a shopping mall, right.

2090
01:39:32,973 --> 01:39:34,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, there shouldn't be that much difference now you think

2091
01:39:35,013 --> 01:39:36,452
Speaker 3: about it. But if you try and do that through

2092
01:39:36,452 --> 01:39:38,852
Speaker 3: a shopping mall, you know you're going to end up

2093
01:39:38,893 --> 01:39:41,253
Speaker 3: in court. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

2094
01:39:41,293 --> 01:39:44,133
Speaker 3: a number to call. Headlines coming up and plenty of

2095
01:39:44,253 --> 01:39:46,412
Speaker 3: calls to get to it is twenty seven of.

2096
01:39:46,412 --> 01:39:53,933
Speaker 9: Wour you talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxings.

2097
01:39:53,973 --> 01:39:57,412
Speaker 9: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The Principals Federation

2098
01:39:57,652 --> 01:40:01,892
Speaker 9: says it's premature for Education Minister Ericas Stanford to say

2099
01:40:02,093 --> 01:40:05,812
Speaker 9: rollout of new school literacy and maths curricula is going

2100
01:40:06,213 --> 01:40:10,213
Speaker 9: magnificently well in week four or The Federation says issues

2101
01:40:10,253 --> 01:40:15,892
Speaker 9: include resources not catering for different learning stages. Associate Immigration

2102
01:40:16,053 --> 01:40:19,012
Speaker 9: Minister Chris Penk is pondering the case of an eighteen

2103
01:40:19,093 --> 01:40:22,372
Speaker 9: year old born to overstays in New Zealand told to

2104
01:40:22,532 --> 01:40:26,253
Speaker 9: go to India, a place he's never visited. An Auckland

2105
01:40:26,333 --> 01:40:29,892
Speaker 9: man has been sentenced to community detention overclaiming almost twenty

2106
01:40:29,973 --> 01:40:34,812
Speaker 9: four thousand dollars COVID business relief money in other people's names.

2107
01:40:35,253 --> 01:40:38,333
Speaker 9: He has been ordered to repay the entire loan by April,

2108
01:40:39,253 --> 01:40:42,772
Speaker 9: Britain's Prime minister says he'd put British troops in Ukraine

2109
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:46,532
Speaker 9: to help guarantee a peace deal. An emergency summitt VU

2110
01:40:46,732 --> 01:40:49,932
Speaker 9: countries begins in Paris tonight as the US and Russian

2111
01:40:50,013 --> 01:40:54,652
Speaker 9: presidents hold war talks but are excluding other nations. More

2112
01:40:54,692 --> 01:40:57,812
Speaker 9: than seventy thousand Kiwis left the country last year, and

2113
01:40:57,933 --> 01:41:00,732
Speaker 9: New Zealand had a very low net migration gain of

2114
01:41:00,893 --> 01:41:06,173
Speaker 9: twenty seven thousand migrants. Eight week average tendency tribunal on

2115
01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:08,892
Speaker 9: how long it's taking to hear a case. You can

2116
01:41:08,973 --> 01:41:11,612
Speaker 9: find out more that end zaid here well premium. Back

2117
01:41:11,692 --> 01:41:13,333
Speaker 9: now to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2118
01:41:13,372 --> 01:41:15,972
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Leena. It's twenty four to four.

2119
01:41:16,053 --> 01:41:17,253
Speaker 3: We're talking about streakers.

2120
01:41:17,572 --> 01:41:20,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to the show. Pete. Your thoughts on this,

2121
01:41:22,853 --> 01:41:25,173
Speaker 2: hey you Pete, Pete good.

2122
01:41:25,772 --> 01:41:29,132
Speaker 19: I think it should be a total band against male streakers,

2123
01:41:29,173 --> 01:41:32,412
Speaker 19: but been a male dominated sport. Maybe an exception on

2124
01:41:32,452 --> 01:41:35,333
Speaker 19: the woman. I just haven't They're like, no, I think

2125
01:41:36,532 --> 01:41:38,692
Speaker 19: I think they should be totally banned because the end

2126
01:41:38,692 --> 01:41:41,732
Speaker 19: of the day. Yeah, back in the seventies eighties and

2127
01:41:41,812 --> 01:41:43,452
Speaker 19: that was a bit of entertainment you know, you get

2128
01:41:43,452 --> 01:41:45,893
Speaker 19: a bit of streaker on the field. But this we

2129
01:41:45,973 --> 01:41:48,933
Speaker 19: have these radicals out there nowadays, and you don't know.

2130
01:41:49,492 --> 01:41:51,412
Speaker 19: It was just the way the world's gone. I think

2131
01:41:51,452 --> 01:41:54,812
Speaker 19: we just can't lay out anymore. And I think, you know,

2132
01:41:54,933 --> 01:41:58,173
Speaker 19: if they get caught, they should be a good fine,

2133
01:41:58,253 --> 01:42:00,612
Speaker 19: ten thousand dollars fine or something, and they should be

2134
01:42:00,732 --> 01:42:06,333
Speaker 19: banned also from entering any footy arena in New Zealand

2135
01:42:06,412 --> 01:42:10,293
Speaker 19: for maybe five years. Are you it's also putting up

2136
01:42:10,293 --> 01:42:12,532
Speaker 19: the cost of our tickets too, or you don't got

2137
01:42:12,572 --> 01:42:16,612
Speaker 19: the security now what it's costing out security around these fields,

2138
01:42:16,652 --> 01:42:18,932
Speaker 19: So we can cut those costs down. I mean, maybe

2139
01:42:18,973 --> 01:42:21,253
Speaker 19: can keep their tickets. They're all trying to get more

2140
01:42:21,293 --> 01:42:24,493
Speaker 19: bums on seats. But all these costs which are occurring

2141
01:42:24,572 --> 01:42:27,852
Speaker 19: by the even employing all these securities, it's got to

2142
01:42:27,893 --> 01:42:29,772
Speaker 19: be pay for, so it comes in the price of

2143
01:42:29,812 --> 01:42:32,412
Speaker 19: your ticket. So I'm much said to stay. I'm actually

2144
01:42:33,812 --> 01:42:35,852
Speaker 19: I'm right against streak has been on fields now just

2145
01:42:35,893 --> 01:42:37,133
Speaker 19: the way the world has gone.

2146
01:42:37,333 --> 01:42:39,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it's a really good point that you

2147
01:42:39,173 --> 01:42:42,532
Speaker 2: make that the security issue, because maybe someone's running on

2148
01:42:42,612 --> 01:42:45,173
Speaker 2: the field for a joke and laugh with their mates.

2149
01:42:45,652 --> 01:42:48,972
Speaker 2: Or maybe they've got something more sinister that they've got planned,

2150
01:42:49,452 --> 01:42:52,412
Speaker 2: and that's quite terrifying. And when I was at Eden Park,

2151
01:42:52,492 --> 01:42:54,372
Speaker 2: about four of the people around on the field, they

2152
01:42:54,412 --> 01:42:57,093
Speaker 2: weren't streakers, they weren't new they had pants on, so

2153
01:42:57,213 --> 01:42:58,972
Speaker 2: you don't know if they're carrying a knife or what's

2154
01:42:59,013 --> 01:43:01,972
Speaker 2: going on there. So it does feel like the world

2155
01:43:02,013 --> 01:43:04,293
Speaker 2: has changed a little bit that people there there, they're

2156
01:43:04,492 --> 01:43:07,093
Speaker 2: kind of more extreme views going on. Thank you so

2157
01:43:07,173 --> 01:43:09,412
Speaker 2: much for your for your pete, appreciate it.

2158
01:43:09,532 --> 01:43:12,532
Speaker 3: What happened to the idea of the lifetime bands that

2159
01:43:12,692 --> 01:43:14,452
Speaker 3: never got across the line, did it? I know that

2160
01:43:14,572 --> 01:43:18,652
Speaker 3: you mentioned before that was one of the things asked

2161
01:43:18,692 --> 01:43:22,052
Speaker 3: for by a raft of stadium CEOs in New Zealand

2162
01:43:22,213 --> 01:43:24,492
Speaker 3: and abroad. Yeah, but that never came into play.

2163
01:43:24,612 --> 01:43:26,133
Speaker 2: So yeah. This was a letter that was written to

2164
01:43:26,173 --> 01:43:30,173
Speaker 2: the government in June twenty three. It was written to

2165
01:43:30,253 --> 01:43:32,333
Speaker 2: Grant Robinson, who was the Minister of Sport and Recreation

2166
01:43:32,412 --> 01:43:35,652
Speaker 2: at the time, and what they wanted was that a

2167
01:43:35,772 --> 01:43:37,852
Speaker 2: fine of five thousand dollars be applied and forced for

2168
01:43:37,893 --> 01:43:40,692
Speaker 2: spectators entering the field of play, and a higher fine

2169
01:43:40,732 --> 01:43:43,253
Speaker 2: of ten thousand if they are an instance where they

2170
01:43:43,293 --> 01:43:47,052
Speaker 2: disrupt the event. That lifetime bands be considered for offenders

2171
01:43:47,053 --> 01:43:49,372
Speaker 2: across all stadiums in New Zealand, so if you got done,

2172
01:43:49,372 --> 01:43:54,293
Speaker 2: you weren't just march from Eden Park or Forsyth Bar.

2173
01:43:54,933 --> 01:43:57,572
Speaker 2: The significant finds and convictions be applied to offices and

2174
01:43:57,612 --> 01:44:00,372
Speaker 2: directors of businesses who incentivive this kind of behavior.

2175
01:44:01,293 --> 01:44:04,133
Speaker 3: Well, a lifetime ban across all stadium surely that would

2176
01:44:04,173 --> 01:44:06,412
Speaker 3: do it. If you're a massive sport fan and you

2177
01:44:06,572 --> 01:44:09,692
Speaker 3: streak and you're done in terms of live sport watching,

2178
01:44:09,812 --> 01:44:11,012
Speaker 3: surely that would be something.

2179
01:44:11,372 --> 01:44:13,213
Speaker 2: Mark you're an ex security guard if you had to

2180
01:44:13,253 --> 01:44:15,492
Speaker 2: deal with the streaking situation.

2181
01:44:17,013 --> 01:44:19,452
Speaker 7: We've had quite a few of them. I worked for

2182
01:44:20,372 --> 01:44:22,612
Speaker 7: the company that remain names, but I've worked on a

2183
01:44:22,652 --> 01:44:26,772
Speaker 7: lot of sports builds where we've had numerous events where

2184
01:44:26,812 --> 01:44:29,293
Speaker 7: people have come on board and jumped over the gates

2185
01:44:29,293 --> 01:44:31,732
Speaker 7: and the all defenses and tried to get onto the field.

2186
01:44:33,933 --> 01:44:37,572
Speaker 2: And what is your view on that as a security guard?

2187
01:44:38,093 --> 01:44:40,692
Speaker 2: Is that something that you want to have to deal with?

2188
01:44:41,973 --> 01:44:43,772
Speaker 7: Well, no, it's not something you want to deal with

2189
01:44:44,333 --> 01:44:48,973
Speaker 7: for the presented with you with no clothes. Yeah, the

2190
01:44:49,053 --> 01:44:51,372
Speaker 7: first thing is where exactly am I going to grape

2191
01:44:51,412 --> 01:44:56,972
Speaker 7: this person. So, yeah, it is. It is an awkward

2192
01:44:58,013 --> 01:45:01,293
Speaker 7: situation for security to deal with. It's also very awkward

2193
01:45:01,333 --> 01:45:05,652
Speaker 7: for the security companies that work for these because, yes,

2194
01:45:05,772 --> 01:45:08,293
Speaker 7: even though it is a major events and it comes

2195
01:45:08,452 --> 01:45:13,972
Speaker 7: under that act, basically, manhandling anybody, whether your security guard

2196
01:45:14,093 --> 01:45:18,772
Speaker 7: or not, is a very dangerous position to be bottom. Yeah,

2197
01:45:19,652 --> 01:45:22,333
Speaker 7: and a lot of these, like we've seen at Even Park,

2198
01:45:22,372 --> 01:45:24,892
Speaker 7: a lot of these crash tackles and clothes lines and such.

2199
01:45:27,572 --> 01:45:30,972
Speaker 7: Fortunately no one has been seriously hurt, but if someone

2200
01:45:31,053 --> 01:45:33,173
Speaker 7: had been, that security guard would certainly be in a

2201
01:45:33,213 --> 01:45:33,732
Speaker 7: lot of trouble.

2202
01:45:35,013 --> 01:45:38,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering about that, is there because I mean,

2203
01:45:38,532 --> 01:45:41,932
Speaker 2: I guess there's can be. There's been accusations of excessive

2204
01:45:41,973 --> 01:45:42,812
Speaker 2: force in the past.

2205
01:45:44,612 --> 01:45:49,213
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, honestly, it comes down to firstly, the

2206
01:45:49,933 --> 01:45:52,893
Speaker 7: pre briefing that you've had between the stadium and the

2207
01:45:53,013 --> 01:45:55,852
Speaker 7: security company that you're working for. They will give you

2208
01:45:55,973 --> 01:45:58,933
Speaker 7: directions on what the expectations are in the way to

2209
01:45:58,973 --> 01:46:03,093
Speaker 7: handle this sort of particular situation. Then the individual guard

2210
01:46:03,173 --> 01:46:05,333
Speaker 7: is actually standing there and they're making their own personal

2211
01:46:05,372 --> 01:46:07,692
Speaker 7: assessment of this person that's breached on for the field,

2212
01:46:08,372 --> 01:46:12,692
Speaker 7: this person acting in an aggressive manner, are they both

2213
01:46:12,893 --> 01:46:15,652
Speaker 7: having a bit of a you know, Yahoo and so

2214
01:46:15,812 --> 01:46:17,772
Speaker 7: that you're getting cheered on by their friends. Do they

2215
01:46:17,812 --> 01:46:21,772
Speaker 7: pose a danger or do they not? I think a

2216
01:46:21,853 --> 01:46:27,612
Speaker 7: lot of times you know that directing with quite a

2217
01:46:28,692 --> 01:46:31,133
Speaker 7: how I put it, with quite a lot of determination

2218
01:46:31,253 --> 01:46:33,932
Speaker 7: of force in order to get this person under control.

2219
01:46:34,213 --> 01:46:37,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what do you say, because there's always people

2220
01:46:37,732 --> 01:46:40,173
Speaker 2: that will say that security guard just wanted to show

2221
01:46:40,692 --> 01:46:44,412
Speaker 2: their pace and you know, try out, try out for

2222
01:46:44,532 --> 01:46:48,372
Speaker 2: the team by how hard they smashed the streaker. Is

2223
01:46:48,372 --> 01:46:49,093
Speaker 2: there any truth in that?

2224
01:46:51,532 --> 01:46:56,093
Speaker 7: Not that I experienced. There's certainly a security guards out

2225
01:46:56,093 --> 01:46:58,412
Speaker 7: there that are standing there for eight hours a day

2226
01:46:59,013 --> 01:47:00,253
Speaker 7: just praying for something to happen.

2227
01:47:02,692 --> 01:47:04,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when I was a kid that you know,

2228
01:47:04,652 --> 01:47:06,933
Speaker 2: when I'd go to Karrisbrook to watch cricket games, the

2229
01:47:07,013 --> 01:47:08,892
Speaker 2: police seem to be running the secure and they would

2230
01:47:08,933 --> 01:47:11,452
Speaker 2: stand right at the back and get to watch the game.

2231
01:47:12,452 --> 01:47:15,652
Speaker 2: So that was a decent detail for police security. Then

2232
01:47:15,692 --> 01:47:19,052
Speaker 2: I'm not sure when they swapped over to paying you know, recruit,

2233
01:47:19,492 --> 01:47:21,173
Speaker 2: but but they having to watch the whole game and

2234
01:47:21,253 --> 01:47:24,293
Speaker 2: you you've got your back to the game. That's pretty punishing,

2235
01:47:24,333 --> 01:47:24,652
Speaker 2: isn't it.

2236
01:47:25,013 --> 01:47:28,772
Speaker 7: You're just watching that's that's what you're there. You're paid

2237
01:47:28,853 --> 01:47:32,852
Speaker 7: to watch the people, not the game. You're actually like

2238
01:47:33,452 --> 01:47:36,372
Speaker 7: a perimeterive security guard on the field whose job is

2239
01:47:36,412 --> 01:47:38,932
Speaker 7: to watch the stands to prevent people from coming over.

2240
01:47:39,372 --> 01:47:41,452
Speaker 7: If you're standing around watching the game and somebody actually

2241
01:47:41,492 --> 01:47:43,532
Speaker 7: gets past you, it's probably going to.

2242
01:47:44,452 --> 01:47:49,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right, what happens? What happens mark after you've

2243
01:47:50,173 --> 01:47:52,412
Speaker 2: you know, like security have grabbed the person and they've

2244
01:47:52,652 --> 01:47:55,812
Speaker 2: dragged them off. What happens in that next stage of it?

2245
01:47:56,333 --> 01:47:58,293
Speaker 2: Are the police called? Do you take them into a

2246
01:47:58,333 --> 01:47:59,812
Speaker 2: special room? How does that go down?

2247
01:48:00,893 --> 01:48:03,452
Speaker 7: It basically comes down to what the pre boof was

2248
01:48:03,812 --> 01:48:08,052
Speaker 7: with the idea and organizers themselves to what they actually

2249
01:48:08,093 --> 01:48:10,652
Speaker 7: wish to happen. They may not actually give us direction

2250
01:48:10,732 --> 01:48:12,333
Speaker 7: on it. They just want us to take care of

2251
01:48:12,572 --> 01:48:15,173
Speaker 7: be done with it. If the police are there, the

2252
01:48:15,213 --> 01:48:17,812
Speaker 7: police will certainly volunteer to put hands on this person

2253
01:48:17,853 --> 01:48:21,692
Speaker 7: and take them away from us. Again. If not, if

2254
01:48:21,692 --> 01:48:23,692
Speaker 7: there is no direction on that that, we'll just expelling

2255
01:48:23,692 --> 01:48:26,372
Speaker 7: them out of the gate. How if they were carrying

2256
01:48:26,452 --> 01:48:29,093
Speaker 7: any clothes on them, then we would probably be looking

2257
01:48:29,173 --> 01:48:31,612
Speaker 7: at the taking them to a more quieter, secure place

2258
01:48:31,933 --> 01:48:34,492
Speaker 7: in order to organize actually retrieve in their clothes for

2259
01:48:34,612 --> 01:48:35,812
Speaker 7: them and then put them.

2260
01:48:35,732 --> 01:48:37,812
Speaker 2: Out the gate so you can you can you can

2261
01:48:38,013 --> 01:48:38,652
Speaker 2: detain them.

2262
01:48:41,492 --> 01:48:45,732
Speaker 7: It's not so much of the detainment, whereas the point

2263
01:48:46,013 --> 01:48:49,612
Speaker 7: that you know, while the person is still unclosed and

2264
01:48:49,772 --> 01:48:54,253
Speaker 7: still running around what is essentially private property, you have

2265
01:48:54,372 --> 01:48:57,652
Speaker 7: a responsibility to ensure as little harm is done as possible.

2266
01:48:57,692 --> 01:49:01,253
Speaker 2: It's funny that you think it's funny. It's funny Mark

2267
01:49:01,333 --> 01:49:04,293
Speaker 2: that you know someone's stripped off and run out into

2268
01:49:04,333 --> 01:49:07,612
Speaker 2: the field and caused a disruption, and yet security is

2269
01:49:07,652 --> 01:49:10,013
Speaker 2: still worry about halving them out on the street. In

2270
01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:12,492
Speaker 2: the note, it feels like that should be part of

2271
01:49:12,532 --> 01:49:15,012
Speaker 2: the punishment. Okay, mate, we've got your details.

2272
01:49:16,333 --> 01:49:18,293
Speaker 7: It's kind of the same policy as what the police had.

2273
01:49:18,333 --> 01:49:19,892
Speaker 7: As soon as they put hands on you can take

2274
01:49:19,973 --> 01:49:20,812
Speaker 7: you into custody.

2275
01:49:20,973 --> 01:49:24,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now you would so you're responsible for their

2276
01:49:24,853 --> 01:49:25,572
Speaker 2: welfare at that point.

2277
01:49:25,612 --> 01:49:27,772
Speaker 3: And that's interesting, Mark, So what are the instructions you

2278
01:49:27,812 --> 01:49:30,532
Speaker 3: get as a security guard if someone does jump on

2279
01:49:30,853 --> 01:49:32,812
Speaker 3: on the pitch. I would have thought you've got to

2280
01:49:32,893 --> 01:49:34,732
Speaker 3: take you know, you've got to control those or get

2281
01:49:34,812 --> 01:49:37,173
Speaker 3: those people as fast as possible. And you're saying that's

2282
01:49:37,213 --> 01:49:39,692
Speaker 3: not quite the case. You're saying, you've got to stop them,

2283
01:49:39,812 --> 01:49:41,253
Speaker 3: but you can't hurt them while.

2284
01:49:41,133 --> 01:49:46,692
Speaker 7: You do that. Well, you can't intentionally hurt anybody, right

2285
01:49:48,492 --> 01:49:50,293
Speaker 7: For any of this course, it always comes down to

2286
01:49:50,333 --> 01:49:53,652
Speaker 7: the nimb of force needed to be able to control

2287
01:49:53,692 --> 01:49:56,612
Speaker 7: the situation or bring the situation to an end. Running

2288
01:49:56,652 --> 01:49:59,333
Speaker 7: out there and you know, some guys just having a

2289
01:49:59,612 --> 01:50:01,333
Speaker 7: h are running along the side of the field, jumping

2290
01:50:01,412 --> 01:50:04,333
Speaker 7: up and down, making a clown of himself doesn't really

2291
01:50:04,492 --> 01:50:06,612
Speaker 7: require to be spared tackled by five guys at way

2292
01:50:06,612 --> 01:50:09,692
Speaker 7: one hundred and twenty kgs each. I mean, you can

2293
01:50:09,772 --> 01:50:12,253
Speaker 7: literally just run up and sort of surround them and

2294
01:50:12,652 --> 01:50:14,732
Speaker 7: in a lot of times communication to them. They'll just

2295
01:50:14,732 --> 01:50:16,612
Speaker 7: sit there and go yep, okay, hands up, you caught

2296
01:50:16,652 --> 01:50:19,173
Speaker 7: me right, And you can just approach them and sort

2297
01:50:19,173 --> 01:50:21,692
Speaker 7: of take them by the forearm and just walk them off.

2298
01:50:21,893 --> 01:50:22,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2299
01:50:23,213 --> 01:50:27,652
Speaker 7: I don't unless somebody is running making aggressive gestures, yelling,

2300
01:50:27,772 --> 01:50:30,412
Speaker 7: scream with profanity and actually running directly at a player,

2301
01:50:31,013 --> 01:50:33,972
Speaker 7: I don't believe they're head high tackles or spear tackling somebody.

2302
01:50:35,053 --> 01:50:36,893
Speaker 7: You know, it has to be in part with the

2303
01:50:37,053 --> 01:50:39,652
Speaker 7: level of threat that you that you believe is being

2304
01:50:40,612 --> 01:50:42,652
Speaker 7: producted towards you or towards a player.

2305
01:50:42,973 --> 01:50:44,972
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for those insights. Mark really

2306
01:50:45,013 --> 01:50:45,612
Speaker 2: appreciate that.

2307
01:50:45,812 --> 01:50:49,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting, Thank you very much. Fourteen to four

2308
01:50:49,772 --> 01:50:55,612
Speaker 3: to go, a few more calls very shortly, the issues.

2309
01:50:55,253 --> 01:50:57,692
Speaker 4: That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way.

2310
01:50:57,933 --> 01:51:01,852
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoon with a Volvo X ninety innovation,

2311
01:51:02,093 --> 01:51:03,092
Speaker 1: style and design.

2312
01:51:03,293 --> 01:51:03,772
Speaker 4: Have it all?

2313
01:51:04,013 --> 01:51:09,053
Speaker 2: Youth talk said, it is eleven to four, so we're

2314
01:51:09,053 --> 01:51:12,492
Speaker 2: talking about streakers this Texas's streakers are just disruptive dickheads.

2315
01:51:12,492 --> 01:51:15,213
Speaker 2: Penalty should be one thousand dollars fine and sixty days

2316
01:51:15,253 --> 01:51:18,052
Speaker 2: in prison. Let's see how keen the second time around.

2317
01:51:18,093 --> 01:51:21,092
Speaker 2: That's from Grant. Yeah, well, the stadiums in New Zealand

2318
01:51:21,133 --> 01:51:25,213
Speaker 2: are asking for a ten thousand dollars fine for pitch

2319
01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:27,012
Speaker 2: invading if you affect the game.

2320
01:51:27,173 --> 01:51:33,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, two is the text number. Let's go to the phones. Sparrow,

2321
01:51:34,412 --> 01:51:34,812
Speaker 3: how are you.

2322
01:51:36,692 --> 01:51:36,892
Speaker 8: Good?

2323
01:51:37,013 --> 01:51:37,293
Speaker 13: Leads?

2324
01:51:38,293 --> 01:51:40,892
Speaker 2: You see your thoughts on this? Sparrow.

2325
01:51:42,053 --> 01:51:44,812
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it's a thing that was done in

2326
01:51:44,853 --> 01:51:46,972
Speaker 15: the past. I mean, you know it was all done

2327
01:51:47,013 --> 01:51:50,452
Speaker 15: in good fun. But I think it's days done. I

2328
01:51:50,532 --> 01:51:53,532
Speaker 15: mean I can remember the days when Mark Ellis, Betty Rudge.

2329
01:51:53,652 --> 01:51:57,412
Speaker 15: They were doing that was the Cafe Sports Cafe, and

2330
01:51:57,532 --> 01:52:00,253
Speaker 15: I think Mark ellis challenged and put up for a

2331
01:52:00,372 --> 01:52:02,732
Speaker 15: reward for how far you got across the panic?

2332
01:52:04,253 --> 01:52:07,013
Speaker 3: Yeah he did. But again, is you say, Sparrow, do

2333
01:52:07,053 --> 01:52:09,253
Speaker 3: you think look, we looked it's streaking. I think a

2334
01:52:09,293 --> 01:52:12,372
Speaker 3: little bit differently back in there that would have been

2335
01:52:13,333 --> 01:52:17,932
Speaker 3: late two thousands, early two thousands, from five, yeah, or even.

2336
01:52:18,093 --> 01:52:21,612
Speaker 15: Late nineties, and I think, yeah, I just think it was.

2337
01:52:22,133 --> 01:52:26,732
Speaker 15: I don't know it was acceptable, but society has changed

2338
01:52:27,732 --> 01:52:31,772
Speaker 15: and we don't know what people's intentions are. So yeah,

2339
01:52:31,933 --> 01:52:35,372
Speaker 15: I think it's it's it's a sad indictment on society.

2340
01:52:35,492 --> 01:52:37,732
Speaker 15: But yeah, it's done. Its dash, and I think guys

2341
01:52:37,772 --> 01:52:41,213
Speaker 15: are just gonna learn not to do it because women

2342
01:52:41,293 --> 01:52:45,293
Speaker 15: aren't doing it anymore. But I think it's ninety nine

2343
01:52:45,572 --> 01:52:45,812
Speaker 15: to one.

2344
01:52:46,333 --> 01:52:51,692
Speaker 2: It's all dudes. All, it's all dudes, Sparrow. One thing

2345
01:52:51,732 --> 01:52:53,333
Speaker 2: that I thought that Mark Alis did that was very

2346
01:52:53,333 --> 01:52:55,532
Speaker 2: funny was writing down a three miles hell with a

2347
01:52:55,572 --> 01:53:00,492
Speaker 2: pumpkin on his head, preach out. He's a very funny

2348
01:53:00,532 --> 01:53:03,012
Speaker 2: man man. Mark mark allis clever dude.

2349
01:53:03,293 --> 01:53:05,213
Speaker 15: Doing a lot of great things back in the day.

2350
01:53:05,412 --> 01:53:09,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly has sparrow, Thank you very much. A quick

2351
01:53:09,293 --> 01:53:13,692
Speaker 3: couple of texts, Guys, how come security staff you've mentioned

2352
01:53:13,772 --> 01:53:16,652
Speaker 3: this are allowed to tackle general public for streaking but

2353
01:53:16,772 --> 01:53:19,372
Speaker 3: not allowed to even stop someone from walking out of

2354
01:53:19,412 --> 01:53:21,973
Speaker 3: a supermarket with a trolley. We did mention that is

2355
01:53:22,053 --> 01:53:23,532
Speaker 3: that you kind of it's on the back of the

2356
01:53:23,572 --> 01:53:26,772
Speaker 3: ticket right, terms and conditions of entering the stadium. Yes,

2357
01:53:27,093 --> 01:53:29,133
Speaker 3: is that if you invade the pitch then you can

2358
01:53:29,572 --> 01:53:30,333
Speaker 3: get manhandled.

2359
01:53:30,853 --> 01:53:32,412
Speaker 2: As the sexta says, when you buy a ticket to

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01:53:32,452 --> 01:53:34,412
Speaker 2: the event, the small print you agree to allows the

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01:53:34,452 --> 01:53:36,333
Speaker 2: security to tackle you if you run onto the field

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01:53:36,412 --> 01:53:38,732
Speaker 2: or something similar. It does seem odd though, and I

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01:53:38,772 --> 01:53:40,692
Speaker 2: think probably a lot of people in New Zealand world

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Speaker 2: support like a full flying tackle on someone that's trying

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01:53:44,372 --> 01:53:46,812
Speaker 2: to wheel a trolley out of a supermarket. They're paying

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like they're victimiss you know, they know

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01:53:49,853 --> 01:53:50,892
Speaker 3: what they do and they're.

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01:53:50,692 --> 01:53:53,612
Speaker 2: Stealing for goodness. Just like someone's trying to steal with

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Speaker 2: a trolley out of supermarket and a security guard comes

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01:53:57,213 --> 01:53:59,612
Speaker 2: running at pace across the car park.

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Speaker 3: That's entertainment.

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01:54:00,812 --> 01:54:03,572
Speaker 2: It takes them out all the food and eggs and

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01:54:03,612 --> 01:54:04,892
Speaker 2: everything's get smashed everyone.

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Speaker 3: Eighty is the number of cool. We're a little bit late,

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Speaker 3: so we'll take play some messages and come back with more.

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Speaker 3: It is eight to four, the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

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Speaker 1: in between.

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Speaker 4: Matt and Taylor Afternoons.

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Speaker 1: With the Volvo XC ninety Attention to detail and a

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Speaker 1: commitment to comfort US Dogs EDB on News.

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01:54:29,412 --> 01:54:32,012
Speaker 3: Dogs, EDB five to four.

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Speaker 2: This Texas is I thought no one except police are

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01:54:34,772 --> 01:54:37,453
Speaker 2: allowed to lay hands on anyone unless stopping an assault.

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01:54:37,573 --> 01:54:39,852
Speaker 2: Laying hands and a stranger is an assault of unavided.

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Speaker 2: That's why security guards and supermarkets are hamstrying to stop shoplifting.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's streaking. You've got someone that's running

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Speaker 2: onto the field. They know they're not supposed to be there.

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01:54:48,772 --> 01:54:52,173
Speaker 2: Security have to protect the players, so you know, and

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01:54:52,613 --> 01:54:54,413
Speaker 2: it's in the fine print when you go into the

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01:54:54,653 --> 01:54:57,052
Speaker 2: ground that you're you're not going to go onto the field.

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01:54:57,173 --> 01:54:59,613
Speaker 2: So that's why you get absolutely smoked if you run

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Speaker 2: onto the field.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, guys, the field of vaders are just trespassing. Yes

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Speaker 3: to life. Time be ends on all stadiums around New

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01:55:10,373 --> 01:55:14,413
Speaker 3: Zealand and this one streaker should be tasted the moment

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Speaker 3: they step onto the grass. Then build the cost. Oh

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Speaker 3: that is it goes a step above what I said.

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Speaker 3: I'm all for tasers, but well, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you changed on the cost of the healthcare as well.

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Speaker 2: I know that'd be quite entertaining seeing someone running at

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Speaker 2: the fence. Before they get over they get tasered.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been tasered? Taylor?

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Speaker 5: No, you have.

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Speaker 2: It's not pleasing you don't get tasered twice?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, Thank you very much for today, good discussion. Will

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01:55:41,973 --> 01:55:43,252
Speaker 3: do it all again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Until then, give them a taste of Kiwi.

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