1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: So a lot of questions around the resignation of Deputy 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Police Commissioners given mc skimming been suspended on full pay 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: while under criminal investigation. As a result of that investigation, 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: new issues emerged. It was suggested pornographic material that was 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: found on his work computer. They were going to sack 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: and he jumped first. Former police Minister Stuart Nash is 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: with us. Good morning to you, Good morning Michael, well, 8 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: thank you. How well are you known? 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: I knew Jiven very well, so I can talk about 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: the man who was the Any commission when I was 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: a police minister. Look, if you've been in the police 12 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: for thirty years and you've risen to the rank that 13 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: he has, you've impressed some very some very good, very 14 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: competent and capable people over the time, and he rose 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: to the almost to the top. So he's a good man. 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: I don't know about these allegations, but I can tell 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: you I can talk to you about the man that 18 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: I knew. It was confident, he was capable, he was 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: respectful and an overall good blow. 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: You appointed him, not you personally, but the Labor Party 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: appointed him to the job. He is was until yesterday. 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: There was nothing there presumably at all to indicate trouble 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: was ahead. 24 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: No, nothing at all. Keeping in mind that there are 25 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: two types of deputy commissioner. Is the deputy commissioner that's 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: been appointed up the ranks, and then there's a statutory appointment. 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: So you know, when you say we appointed him, he 28 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: was he was an officer for about twenty six years 29 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: before he reached the role of statutory deputy commissioner. 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: How deeply does anybody look into the background before a 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: bigger job is given in these pretty deep right, so. 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: Pretty deeply actually, certainly after you know, there's been some 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: reasonably high profile cases where we've appointed someone as a 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: statute deputy and stuff has come out, so you know, 35 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: you do a pretty thorough search. But you know, the 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: thing I don't quite understand, Michael, I'm brtally honest with 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: you as I read some reports that there has been 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: porn found on a work computer. I mean, every bloke 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: listening to the show knows there are ways to watch 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: porn without without watching on your work computer. So I 41 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: struggle with that because given's a really smart guy, and 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: you know, watching porn on your work computers that's a 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: pretty dumb thing to do. 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: So the criminal this seems to be secondary to what 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: they were investigating in the first place. Do you You 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: don't have to tell us, but do you have an 47 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: indication as to what it might be? 48 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: No, I don't, actually and that's the truth. I couldn't 49 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: tell you if I did, but I actually don't. That's 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: why I can tell you about the man that I 51 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: knew when I was commissioner. And like I said, thirty 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 2: years deputy commissioner. That's almost at the top. So you've 53 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: done some really good work over thirty years, dogar. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: So this is a shock. If something criminal comes out 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: of us, beyond the porn thing, you know, as in charges, 56 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: you will be shocked. 57 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: I will be shocked well, because that's not the man. 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Keep in the mind, you know, when the minister you 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: have officials through your office once or twice a week. 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: Geven was off on one of those officials who came 61 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: in as also, as you have alluded to, when he 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: was appointed as a statutory Deputy Commissioner, there was a 63 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: little bit of work done to make sure that he 64 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: was a fit and proper person. He checked out all 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: the way through his career progression. There will have been 66 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: checks and balances in place to ensure that this guy 67 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: is suitable for the next level of police and as mentioned, 68 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: over thirty years he's passed every single one of those, 69 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: so it is surprising, but I don't know what's there, 70 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: and no one does until either charges are late or not, 71 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: as the case. 72 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: May be, time will tell. Appreciate your time. Stuart Nash 73 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: forma police minister. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 74 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.