1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from News Talks at me. 3 00:00:12,893 --> 00:00:16,373 Speaker 2: You know my idea of fun. You're expecting me to 4 00:00:16,413 --> 00:00:21,053 Speaker 2: say sex, drugs, rock and roll, wild parties, cocaine fueled 5 00:00:21,133 --> 00:00:26,853 Speaker 2: late night debauchery, guilty as charged. That does sound like 6 00:00:26,893 --> 00:00:30,973 Speaker 2: a bit of me, But no, No, my idea of 7 00:00:31,053 --> 00:00:36,133 Speaker 2: fun is a map. I've got a huge detailed map 8 00:00:36,253 --> 00:00:40,973 Speaker 2: on my wall, a winkled triple projection, Pacific centered. Of course, 9 00:00:41,573 --> 00:00:46,333 Speaker 2: I can while away ours whole afternoons intercontinental flights just 10 00:00:46,813 --> 00:00:50,413 Speaker 2: staring at a map. And when you steer at a 11 00:00:50,493 --> 00:00:55,453 Speaker 2: detailed map, you're drawn to curiosities, to extremes, and naturally, 12 00:00:55,493 --> 00:00:59,053 Speaker 2: of course, you're drawn into imagining or fantasizing what those 13 00:00:59,133 --> 00:01:03,213 Speaker 2: places might be like in person, rather than simply as 14 00:01:03,253 --> 00:01:09,613 Speaker 2: a coordinate on your wall. Three remote, extreme curious places 15 00:01:09,613 --> 00:01:14,413 Speaker 2: on Earth that I've always fantasized about seeing. One is Ladenkonnada, 16 00:01:14,533 --> 00:01:17,533 Speaker 2: which is the highest permanently populated town in the world 17 00:01:17,613 --> 00:01:21,573 Speaker 2: that's in the Peruvian Andes, a grim, freezing mining town 18 00:01:21,933 --> 00:01:24,453 Speaker 2: with a violent crime problem, and where a slab of 19 00:01:24,493 --> 00:01:28,213 Speaker 2: the residents may or may not have mercury poisoning it's 20 00:01:28,293 --> 00:01:32,253 Speaker 2: higher than Everest Base Camp, and if you watch on YouTube, 21 00:01:32,773 --> 00:01:36,173 Speaker 2: it's about as far from a few nights as Denero 22 00:01:36,293 --> 00:01:40,773 Speaker 2: as it's possible to be. The next are the Kerzill 23 00:01:41,013 --> 00:01:46,373 Speaker 2: Islands aka the Desolation Islands, a vast seven thousand square 24 00:01:46,453 --> 00:01:50,373 Speaker 2: kilometer archipelago and the sub Antarctic. It's home to amazing 25 00:01:50,413 --> 00:01:54,853 Speaker 2: wildlife and a few dozen French scientists, and it is huge. 26 00:01:55,173 --> 00:01:59,013 Speaker 2: It's vast. The main island of the Kurgulan Islands is 27 00:01:59,013 --> 00:02:01,293 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty kilometers long and one hundred and 28 00:02:01,333 --> 00:02:04,613 Speaker 2: twenty kilometers wide. Have you ever heard of it? It's 29 00:02:04,613 --> 00:02:07,813 Speaker 2: one of the most remote places on Earth. And my 30 00:02:07,973 --> 00:02:14,573 Speaker 2: final isle of intrigue is Diego Garcia. My dad first 31 00:02:14,693 --> 00:02:18,173 Speaker 2: told me about d G. Diego Garcia when I was 32 00:02:18,213 --> 00:02:22,173 Speaker 2: a kid. So imagine a point, a little atoll in 33 00:02:22,213 --> 00:02:25,213 Speaker 2: the middle of the Indian Ocean below India and about 34 00:02:25,533 --> 00:02:32,573 Speaker 2: halfway between Tanzania and Bali. For decades, Diego Garcia has 35 00:02:32,613 --> 00:02:35,893 Speaker 2: been home to one of the most mysterious and secretive 36 00:02:35,933 --> 00:02:40,973 Speaker 2: military bases on the planet. Its strategic location, its military runway, 37 00:02:41,053 --> 00:02:44,333 Speaker 2: its fleet of long range bombers, and its ability to 38 00:02:44,453 --> 00:02:48,853 Speaker 2: reload submarines with weapons make it hugely important to the 39 00:02:48,973 --> 00:02:52,653 Speaker 2: US and the UK. But of course that base only 40 00:02:52,693 --> 00:02:57,333 Speaker 2: came about via a brutal history. Although Diego Garcia had 41 00:02:57,373 --> 00:03:01,813 Speaker 2: no indigenous population, enslaved people were brought there to work 42 00:03:01,813 --> 00:03:05,973 Speaker 2: on the atoll, on coconut plantations, and over several centuries 43 00:03:06,573 --> 00:03:10,173 Speaker 2: their own language and culture. In the nineteen sixties, the 44 00:03:10,213 --> 00:03:13,333 Speaker 2: Brits decided to kick them out in order to develop 45 00:03:13,333 --> 00:03:16,613 Speaker 2: the military base. They forcibly evicted all of the local 46 00:03:16,653 --> 00:03:21,773 Speaker 2: population to Mauritius and the Seychelles. For decades since, Mauritius 47 00:03:21,853 --> 00:03:24,373 Speaker 2: has fought for the island and its surrounding islands. The 48 00:03:24,413 --> 00:03:28,693 Speaker 2: surrounding archipelago. Chagosians, as people from the Chagos Islands are known, 49 00:03:28,853 --> 00:03:32,533 Speaker 2: have fought to return to their home, but I've always 50 00:03:32,533 --> 00:03:35,013 Speaker 2: assumed that I would never be able to go. The 51 00:03:35,053 --> 00:03:38,253 Speaker 2: island is rumored to be a CIA black site, and 52 00:03:38,293 --> 00:03:42,373 Speaker 2: according to a recent BBC report, only three journalists have 53 00:03:42,573 --> 00:03:46,653 Speaker 2: ever visited. One pretended to have a boat problem and 54 00:03:46,733 --> 00:03:49,013 Speaker 2: was only there for an hour and a half, another 55 00:03:49,413 --> 00:03:53,813 Speaker 2: stopped to refuel while traveling in a presidential plane, and 56 00:03:53,853 --> 00:03:57,493 Speaker 2: the most recent visitor had to agree to incredible restrictions 57 00:03:57,533 --> 00:04:01,253 Speaker 2: on her reporting and was barred from numerous areas and 58 00:04:01,293 --> 00:04:06,293 Speaker 2: accompanied by minders at all times. But yesterday came new 59 00:04:06,493 --> 00:04:11,173 Speaker 2: from Diego Garcia. After years of terse negotiations and an 60 00:04:11,213 --> 00:04:14,973 Speaker 2: ongoing legal dispute regarding a group of Tamil asylum seekers 61 00:04:15,013 --> 00:04:18,573 Speaker 2: being detained on the island, the UK and Mauritius announced 62 00:04:18,573 --> 00:04:22,213 Speaker 2: that sovereignty of Diego Garcia and the other Chagos Islands 63 00:04:22,373 --> 00:04:26,213 Speaker 2: is going to be passed to Mauritius. So will it 64 00:04:26,293 --> 00:04:30,053 Speaker 2: mean the Chagosians as people from the Chagos Islands are known, 65 00:04:30,293 --> 00:04:34,453 Speaker 2: will it mean they can return home? Probably not. Under 66 00:04:34,453 --> 00:04:38,533 Speaker 2: the deal, the long range bombers the submarines, the base 67 00:04:39,093 --> 00:04:42,533 Speaker 2: will remain for at least the next century. Its official 68 00:04:42,573 --> 00:04:45,413 Speaker 2: status might have changed, but for those of us who 69 00:04:45,773 --> 00:04:49,613 Speaker 2: trace the atoll across the world on our office wall, 70 00:04:50,453 --> 00:04:55,693 Speaker 2: Diego Garcia will be no more accessible and no less mysterious. 71 00:04:56,253 --> 00:04:59,373 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 72 00:04:59,453 --> 00:05:02,613 Speaker 1: to Newstalks 'd B from nine am Saturday, or follow 73 00:05:02,653 --> 00:05:04,253 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.