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Speaker 1: Barrisoper, senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 2: I Barry, Good afternoon, Heather Barry.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear Eric has said in the House.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I had a look at it and

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Speaker 2: I was watching it. It was basically Web got up

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Speaker 2: and knarked on her. Certainly wasn't Jantinetti that made the complaint?

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Speaker 1: Yea?

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Speaker 2: And Barbara Kruger was sitting in the seat today rather

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Speaker 2: than Jerry Brownly Erica Stamford withdrew and apologized. So I

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Speaker 2: think she probably did well female dog. But I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, having watched the debate between those two this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: I think Jantinetti was the loser because Erica Stamford had

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Speaker 2: it all over her when they were talking about bus

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Speaker 2: routes being canceled.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hey, Ginny Anderson, what she done?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know you'd have to ask, was Ginny Anderson

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Speaker 2: born yesterday? She was? She obviously doesn't know her recent

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Speaker 2: history when it comes to.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about what she said yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well, still on a panel with Mark Actual on the

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Speaker 2: Hosking Show, she was scathing at Chris Luxen for allowing

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Speaker 2: the Treaty Principal's Bill to go to a Select committee

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Speaker 2: ever listen to it.

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Speaker 3: He is absolutely disrespecting our parliamentary process by putting a

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Speaker 3: bill to select committee that he has no intention of

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Speaker 3: voting for at the second reading. He's wasting our time,

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Speaker 3: he's wasting taxpayers money, and he's making an absolute joke

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Speaker 3: of the system. And that sort of behavior, that sort

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Speaker 3: of behavior ilicits huckers in the House and ilicits fifty

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Speaker 3: five thousand people coming to the front steps of Parliament.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, oh, please.

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Speaker 1: Disrespecting parliament.

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Speaker 2: They did exactly the same thing did Labor In two

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Speaker 2: thousand and five when they were in coalition with the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand First Party. They supported the It was called

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Speaker 2: the Principles of Treaty of Wititngi Deletion Bill and it

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Speaker 2: was taking references to the Treaty out of legislation. Now,

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Speaker 2: that was the second time it was before Parliament and

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Speaker 2: chose you the hypocrisy and all of this. The first

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Speaker 2: time it came before parliament, Labor voted it down and

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Speaker 2: said it's dreadful. The second time it came before parliament,

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Speaker 2: of course, they were in coalition with New Zealand First,

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Speaker 2: so they changed their tune and I went back and

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Speaker 2: I had a look at the handsides of Nanayamahuta, who

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Speaker 2: of course was very prominent on the front bench of

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party at the time. She said that sometimes

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Speaker 2: we do things that we do not like, but we

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Speaker 2: need to do them so that we can truly appreciate

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Speaker 2: what we have. She said she'd given a speech at

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Speaker 2: the time and said that the Labor lead government wasn't

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Speaker 2: prepared to send a signal to Maldi, but she said

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Speaker 2: the current government formation means that we've got an agreement

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Speaker 2: and part of that requires them supporting this bill. This

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Speaker 2: was Winston Peters Bill taken up by Doug Wollaton to

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Speaker 2: go to a select committee, but no further. She said,

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Speaker 2: they welcomed debate on the issue. Debate should be welcomed

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Speaker 2: and that's why they were allowing it to have a

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Speaker 2: full term before a parliamentary.

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Speaker 1: So let me get this right. So Labor in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five, it was two thousand and five. Labour

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five agreed with the minor coalition

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Speaker 1: partner to take a treaty Principal's bill only to Select

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Speaker 1: committee and no further. That's right, But when National agrees

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Speaker 1: with its Minor Coalition Partner Act in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: twenty three, YEP to take a treaty Principal's Bill Select Committee.

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Speaker 1: It's disrespecting Parliament, is okay?

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Speaker 2: Jenny should just loop through the recent history of the

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Speaker 2: Labor Party. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Cool. Hey, we've got our first non binary and pa

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Speaker 1: Giving has made their maiden speech tonight. And when is that?

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Speaker 2: They're maiden speech, Demania. You've got to get it right here.

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Speaker 2: It's in about an hour's time. Benjamin Doyle, he of course,

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Speaker 2: took over the list seat from Darling Tana. He's a

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Speaker 2: thirty two year old. He lists himself of Napui Scottish descent.

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Speaker 2: He uses the pronouns they them an heir. That's the

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Speaker 2: maldi pronoun I think, he said part of a speech.

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Speaker 2: Let it be known in this house that trans lives

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Speaker 2: are tango, he said. It's a day to reflect on

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Speaker 2: the tireless work of our trans leaders and elders, the

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Speaker 2: icons who have fought and who have organized and existed

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Speaker 2: in the face of enormous vitriolic hate, A hate, he said,

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Speaker 2: I might add, that was imported by at her colonialism.

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Speaker 2: So it's all that's the problem. And he said that look,

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Speaker 2: he's proud to be queer, binary or non binary. He said,

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Speaker 2: it means that his agenda, agenda is expensive and fluid,

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Speaker 2: are not the suffocating binary. And he said, if you

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Speaker 2: confuse his dress with what goes on, he said, be

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Speaker 2: more written by the contents of his mind than his wardrobe.

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Speaker 2: And today, no doubt he'll be turning up in a

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Speaker 2: pretty flashy outfit as he has done on the past.

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Speaker 1: Barry, thank you, I appreciate it very much. Is Barry Sopau,

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Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent.

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