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Speaker 1: morning to you, Morning morning, Andrew. Don't give me the

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Speaker 1: corporate flannel. But I happened to watch a little bit yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I was watching because I'm so well. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't give me there, don't give me the Chris Hopkins answers.

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Speaker 1: So the numbers on stream. So I'm correct in saying

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Speaker 1: to watch the cricket in this country, this is the

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Speaker 1: black Caps yesterday. To watch the cricket in this country,

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Speaker 1: you've got to stream it on TV and Z AM

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Speaker 1: I correct or am I completely.

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Speaker 2: It's on our Duke channel as well on Free of You.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any numbers? Is anyone watching it

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't checked the numbers. I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: that last night. Maybe I should check the numbers before

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Speaker 2: I come on with Mike, but I haven't. But I'd

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Speaker 2: say they'd be very pretty strong.

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Speaker 1: So not not strong on the KPIs then, so so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I m just check that before I go on with Mike.

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Speaker 1: And here with Mike, I'm Mike. By the way.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it was late. It was late last night.

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Speaker 2: I was singing about you before IDs it off. To sleep,

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Speaker 2: And I thought, I was.

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Speaker 3: That is Chris Hipkins. Area is not reading things.

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Speaker 1: Much. It's the sky have Elton Chris Hapkins on them.

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Speaker 2: Now, what I'll do for you, what I'll do for

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Speaker 2: my corporate flannel w under the tap, wash my face

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Speaker 2: and get those numbers for you. However, you're not going

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Speaker 2: to be here next week.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm not no, I'm.

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Speaker 3: It's the secret of December. This is like starting to

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Speaker 3: be like Christmas music. When are they going to start

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Speaker 3: playing Christmas music and shops Win's Mike, can.

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Speaker 1: It take me? That's that's the thing. That's so what

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Speaker 1: I've decided to I've decided to align myself with the

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Speaker 1: Christmas music. So when the Christmas music stops, it starts,

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Speaker 1: I stop.

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Speaker 2: And when Parliament stops sitting.

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Speaker 1: You don't even get me started on you.

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Speaker 2: You take up. I was pulling. I was actually pulling

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Speaker 2: out the advent calendars for the kids, you said, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, December first, Mike, must be just about you

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Speaker 2: to go on holiday.

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Speaker 1: Very good sense, that's very good. So let's enjoy these

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Speaker 1: final few moments while we can. By the way, you're

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Speaker 1: not on the show next you, sap, we've secked you.

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Speaker 2: But that's certainly using the corporate flannel.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it. That's exactly right? Now, what do we start

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Speaker 1: with our guy to tell me? So I was watching

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Speaker 1: this cricket. Just go back to the cricket. First of all,

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Speaker 1: did you notice christ which looks a bit parched? Do

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Speaker 3: I didn't think that it looked a little bit dry.

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Speaker 1: Go to the poor hills you're getting around the port hills.

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Speaker 1: It just needed like a sprinkle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And considering that's the start of summer, I don't

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Speaker 3: summer if it's a dry summer. Look, the cricket was

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Speaker 3: heavily disappointing. And I've heard a lot of people talk

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Speaker 3: bottom liners, And the thing here is if they took

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Speaker 3: their catches, they would have been right in that game.

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Speaker 3: They dropped eight catches. Eight catches. This is a team

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Speaker 3: that used to be the leading fielding team in the

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Speaker 3: this wasn't a one off. They have been pretty poor

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Speaker 1: You do about that. There's nothing you can do about that,

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Speaker 1: is there. That's not like you go on Monday. You go, right, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's do some practice, some catching practice, because I.

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Speaker 2: Mean they do teams practice anyway, right, these teams practice

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Speaker 1: And this is a funny because I would have I mean,

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Speaker 1: Can you improve you? How can you improve a skill

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Speaker 1: There's nothing else to do? I mean, but what I'm

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Speaker 1: Because that's a mental thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these catches weren't overly difficult. Yes, some of them

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Speaker 3: were hit hard, but when you're a professional that's been

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Speaker 2: So you think, Mike that once you get good at catching.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of you either can or you can't.

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Speaker 1: It's like handye coordination. There's no amount of practice on

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Speaker 1: Of course, you keep practicing, but it's not to materially improve.

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Speaker 1: It's not to go, look, hey, I know you're really

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Speaker 1: if we can make you a black cap. Doesn't work

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Speaker 3: But if you if you stopped practicing, to say, let's

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Speaker 3: say they didn't do any field in practice, as you're

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Speaker 1: Well, they were terrible in the field, so they probably

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Speaker 3: But would that'd be even worse. I mean, it's just like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like doing anything. If you don't

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Speaker 1: I've never found that guy. That's my problem. I just

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Speaker 2: You you reach a point of perfection, and.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if you were down at third man,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, is lo you need to catch a

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Speaker 1: So your reaction time is what you're looking to home.

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Speaker 1: But the reaction time is something that's on the day.

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Speaker 1: There's what you do on Tuesday and Wednesday. Reaction time

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Speaker 2: But you can improve your reaction time by practicing.

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Speaker 1: Can you read there are a specialless.

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Speaker 2: Look, there are specialist fielders in the slips. There are

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Speaker 2: specialist fielders out in the deep who have better arms

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Speaker 2: and are faster. Yes, there are specialist positions, but you

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Speaker 3: If one if they didn't practice your reactions, they'd be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that would be more c I can specifically,

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Speaker 2: Don't do you think Roger Feeder are won all his

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to practice.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, But that's different. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that catching is such a natural, basic skill,

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Speaker 1: That's a whole different level of and of course you

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Speaker 1: to practice serving. You know, you don't practice serving. What

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Speaker 1: you're doing is you're practicing a specific part of the serving.

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Speaker 1: You're at the next level, whereas catching is just catching

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Speaker 1: a ball's up in the air and it falls into

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Speaker 3: I agree to disagree.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure if it's been the best move

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Speaker 3: so far. I watched the game on Friday night or

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Speaker 3: double header? Well he's massive, I'll.

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Speaker 4: Put it that way.

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Speaker 2: Prison he too?

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Speaker 1: Is he so massive?

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Speaker 4: He's not effective a little bit, and I don't think

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Speaker 4: really need, and they haven't figured out how to play

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Speaker 3: The most this is from me just watching one of their.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't I mean Thursday or Friday night

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Speaker 3: whatever game it was. That first one against Ellawara was dreadful.

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Speaker 3: They were dreadful and and the interesting thing about this

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Speaker 3: hearing from their coach, it doesn't sound like he had

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Speaker 1: What was that about? Why as a coach, even if

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Speaker 1: the scenes, why would you go on national television and

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Speaker 2: He just hacked off.

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Speaker 1: It was not professional, Andrew, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think what he wasn't using the corporate flannel. Clearly,

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Speaker 2: it just might take time for fod to get into

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Speaker 2: those into the into the into the regime and the tactics.

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Speaker 2: Look under the under the basket. He can block, he

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Speaker 2: can rebound because he's so much taller than everyone else.

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Speaker 2: So it will probably work in the end. It'll be

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Speaker 2: intriguing to see how it develops in the coming weeks,

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Speaker 2: but they can't afford to lose too many more games.

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Speaker 1: Tell you what. The highlight of the weekend for me

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Speaker 1: in the rain and it was a shocking day. And

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Speaker 1: the table that's embarrassing. They haven't had a single goal

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Speaker 1: scored against them. They are the Hellburg winners. I've made

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Speaker 1: up my mind. I know we did this and I've

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Speaker 1: asked other people, but if they going.

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Speaker 2: With there's a different Helburg winner, you can't hand them out,

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Speaker 2: will Nelly? Look, look, fantastic performance and what they're doing, Mike,

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Speaker 2: is they're playing entertaining football. They're actually quite a joy

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Speaker 2: to what I agree. And then you think next week,

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Speaker 2: next week, they were already they solved this return local

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Speaker 2: derby game out.

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Speaker 1: We looked up for tickets. You know what, they're going

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Speaker 1: for four hundred and forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I'm not I've never been a

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Speaker 3: massive football fan, but that is the thing I'm looking

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Speaker 3: for to the most this weekend is the phoenix again.

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Speaker 1: If you build it, they will come. And that's the point,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. You know, you come on. So here we

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Speaker 1: are and we're good, and we score and we draw

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Speaker 1: a crowd, and we're gonna win the championship and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna win the hell big award. Men.

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Speaker 2: I'll start a team from scratch twelve months ago, mate?

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Speaker 1: Is that unheard of?

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Speaker 2: Would often often protein like the Warriors had three or

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Speaker 2: four years and made it to to surgeon to life.

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Speaker 2: But this this club has done it very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Where pardon the Warriors? What year did they surge into life?

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Speaker 2: Ninety ninety five? But they got the license about two

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Speaker 2: or three years before that, didn't they?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still waiting for them a surgeon

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Speaker 1: to life. I mean, the finals, all right.

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Speaker 3: But what's what's on the holiday plans?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, to be honest, And it's quite.

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Speaker 2: An a suggestion. Here's a suggestion.

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Speaker 3: He's got so long, he's got so long.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Actually, nobody think.

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Speaker 1: I'm navigating the world. You're lou got so I'm going

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Speaker 1: to around the world.

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Speaker 2: You hit the wine cellar in the first week, so

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Speaker 2: that's a right hot.

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Speaker 1: No, it's a funny story. Actually, I don't introduce you.

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Speaker 2: Reread, reread, guys, email about our horse racing.

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Speaker 1: Well, aren't we waiting for the sale?

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Speaker 2: The page you go Andrew the eighteen page home that

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Speaker 2: he sent out to us about what sort of racehorse

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Speaker 2: for going to get whether it's got four leggs, two

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Speaker 2: eyes or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And you do too much time, as Andrew, I heard

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Speaker 3: back from Mike, but I didn't hear back from you.

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Speaker 2: Andrew.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to use email. Hey, listen, we've

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Speaker 1: got to wrap it up. Guys. Listen, very merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: to both of you, and I think at least one

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Speaker 1: of you is back next year when we come back,

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Speaker 1: so so so go well, happy holidays, Merry Christmas and

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Speaker 1: all that. Andrew sevil guy.

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