1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:18,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks at Bill. 3 00:00:15,533 --> 00:00:30,173 Speaker 2: French in Nine Monks, Talk Glass, Scampers, Jamie. 4 00:00:29,893 --> 00:00:38,053 Speaker 3: Plastin That's Lord and Broken Glass. 5 00:00:38,413 --> 00:00:41,293 Speaker 4: She has finally announced New Zealand two dates, so she's 6 00:00:41,293 --> 00:00:44,373 Speaker 4: going to be heading to the nine TARMACKI Makoto Auckland 7 00:00:44,653 --> 00:00:46,933 Speaker 4: and the O three Christ Jurge and February next year. 8 00:00:46,973 --> 00:00:49,573 Speaker 4: You can expect tickets will be in hot demand for 9 00:00:49,693 --> 00:00:51,693 Speaker 4: both of those shows. Jans flip me a note, Jack, 10 00:00:51,733 --> 00:00:54,253 Speaker 4: Can you tell me why Ethan black At it isn't 11 00:00:54,293 --> 00:00:56,493 Speaker 4: in the All Blacks? No, I can't, Jan, I don't 12 00:00:56,613 --> 00:00:57,093 Speaker 4: understand it. 13 00:00:57,293 --> 00:00:57,573 Speaker 5: You know that. 14 00:00:57,733 --> 00:01:00,933 Speaker 4: I think it absolutely beggars belief. David Harville should be 15 00:01:00,933 --> 00:01:03,293 Speaker 4: in there as well in my view, but never mind. 16 00:01:03,533 --> 00:01:05,493 Speaker 4: Twenty three to ten on News Talks at B Time 17 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:07,613 Speaker 4: to catch up with franchise, Get Red can our film. 18 00:01:07,453 --> 00:01:10,493 Speaker 3: Reviewer for her pecks this week. Whatever, good morning. 19 00:01:11,093 --> 00:01:14,693 Speaker 4: Let's begin with the very latest and a long list 20 00:01:14,733 --> 00:01:16,133 Speaker 4: of Superman films over the year. 21 00:01:16,253 --> 00:01:28,533 Speaker 3: Over the years, this is Superman. Superman. He's not a man, 22 00:01:30,773 --> 00:01:36,653 Speaker 3: He's an itd somehow become the focal policy entire worlds conversation. 23 00:01:38,693 --> 00:01:48,693 Speaker 3: I will not except that dun't dun't Dan tell us 24 00:01:48,733 --> 00:01:49,693 Speaker 3: about the new Superman. 25 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:53,213 Speaker 5: Right. Well, I think I took my sixteen yearl daughter 26 00:01:53,293 --> 00:01:55,053 Speaker 5: to this film. I think she summed up really well. 27 00:01:55,093 --> 00:01:58,413 Speaker 5: She went, there is something for everyone, Mum. There's a 28 00:01:58,533 --> 00:02:01,613 Speaker 5: hot guy. There's a cute dog who skills a lot 29 00:02:01,653 --> 00:02:04,573 Speaker 5: of the scenes perfect for the kids. There's lots of actions, 30 00:02:04,653 --> 00:02:06,933 Speaker 5: there's more than one superhero has to get a book 31 00:02:06,933 --> 00:02:11,573 Speaker 5: bored with Superman. There's geopolitics, They've got a good villain, 32 00:02:11,573 --> 00:02:13,933 Speaker 5: there's a little bit of humor, and she's kind of right. 33 00:02:14,373 --> 00:02:20,053 Speaker 5: They throw everything at this film. I think over over time, 34 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:21,973 Speaker 5: over the last sort of decade or so, comic book 35 00:02:21,973 --> 00:02:25,893 Speaker 5: adaptations have moved away from their source material. But actually 36 00:02:25,933 --> 00:02:28,253 Speaker 5: I think with this film they really embrace it. It 37 00:02:28,413 --> 00:02:32,773 Speaker 5: does have quite a cartoonish feel to it, and also 38 00:02:33,173 --> 00:02:35,853 Speaker 5: it embraces it kind of acknowledges its origins a lot 39 00:02:35,893 --> 00:02:38,453 Speaker 5: more like the graphics are very much like the original 40 00:02:38,493 --> 00:02:40,853 Speaker 5: sort of comic book graphics, and they use music that 41 00:02:40,933 --> 00:02:43,333 Speaker 5: we've heard before in Superman film. So they're really kind 42 00:02:43,373 --> 00:02:47,773 Speaker 5: of trying to grab the old, celebrate its origins, but 43 00:02:47,933 --> 00:02:50,733 Speaker 5: present it to us kind of in a fresh new way. 44 00:02:50,853 --> 00:02:53,573 Speaker 5: You know, this is this is the beginning of the 45 00:02:53,693 --> 00:02:56,693 Speaker 5: DC Universe. So the DC Universe is going to be 46 00:02:56,853 --> 00:03:00,533 Speaker 5: like the Marvel comic Universe. It's been set up and 47 00:03:04,173 --> 00:03:08,733 Speaker 5: run by James Gunn and a guy called Peter Saffron. 48 00:03:08,773 --> 00:03:10,893 Speaker 5: So James Gunn is a director. You will know him 49 00:03:11,053 --> 00:03:13,693 Speaker 5: as the guy who brought us the superb Guardians of 50 00:03:13,733 --> 00:03:16,773 Speaker 5: the Galaxy franchise, and he's got together with Peter Saffron. 51 00:03:16,813 --> 00:03:21,133 Speaker 5: They are running this new studio, DCU and this is 52 00:03:21,213 --> 00:03:22,693 Speaker 5: kind of a big film to come out of it. 53 00:03:22,813 --> 00:03:24,813 Speaker 5: So we're looking at this going, Okay, where are they're 54 00:03:24,813 --> 00:03:27,293 Speaker 5: going to take this because Jack, there's a little bit 55 00:03:27,333 --> 00:03:30,333 Speaker 5: of comic book hero fatigue out there. You know. Marvel 56 00:03:30,453 --> 00:03:33,693 Speaker 5: really kind of did really take it to as far 57 00:03:33,813 --> 00:03:35,333 Speaker 5: as it could, and we all got a bit like 58 00:03:35,573 --> 00:03:37,413 Speaker 5: it's another comic book hero film. It's the same as 59 00:03:37,413 --> 00:03:41,213 Speaker 5: the last, very overblown, very much reliant on CGI la 60 00:03:41,293 --> 00:03:43,333 Speaker 5: la la la la. So what they're trying to do 61 00:03:43,453 --> 00:03:45,893 Speaker 5: here is they're trying to they've lightened it up a bit. 62 00:03:45,933 --> 00:03:48,213 Speaker 5: It's not like some of the darker kind of adaptations. 63 00:03:48,293 --> 00:03:52,053 Speaker 5: It's light, it's fun, it's entertaining. There is a lot 64 00:03:52,173 --> 00:03:57,573 Speaker 5: going on, whether it's within the story. We've kind of 65 00:03:57,653 --> 00:04:03,293 Speaker 5: got these you know, there's uh, as I mentioned, geopolitical 66 00:04:03,893 --> 00:04:06,373 Speaker 5: issue here, there's a Superman gets involved in a front 67 00:04:06,453 --> 00:04:08,493 Speaker 5: and conflict. He gets in trouble for you is government, 68 00:04:08,573 --> 00:04:10,973 Speaker 5: he loses a battle for the first time, he's got 69 00:04:11,053 --> 00:04:13,613 Speaker 5: a repair a rip in the universe. He's holding down 70 00:04:13,653 --> 00:04:16,133 Speaker 5: a day job as well, Jack, you do a lot 71 00:04:16,173 --> 00:04:19,573 Speaker 5: of jobs. And then he's struggling to control this dog Crypto, 72 00:04:19,613 --> 00:04:21,933 Speaker 5: who is absolutely delightful. So there's all that going on, 73 00:04:22,053 --> 00:04:23,773 Speaker 5: But what they also do is that they kind of 74 00:04:23,893 --> 00:04:27,093 Speaker 5: show us that Superman's going through some internal battles as well, 75 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:30,053 Speaker 5: and he learns a little bit more about why his 76 00:04:30,253 --> 00:04:32,293 Speaker 5: parents sent him to Earth and what their intention is, 77 00:04:32,573 --> 00:04:35,293 Speaker 5: and it's not what he thought. So suddenly he too 78 00:04:35,493 --> 00:04:37,773 Speaker 5: is thrown into sort of an existential crisis. He's like, 79 00:04:37,853 --> 00:04:40,413 Speaker 5: what am I here? When's my purpose? Who am I? 80 00:04:40,613 --> 00:04:42,933 Speaker 5: You know? And he very much identifies as human, you know, 81 00:04:43,013 --> 00:04:44,933 Speaker 5: he goes to all the same sort of he feels 82 00:04:44,973 --> 00:04:46,693 Speaker 5: that he lives his life and feels the same sort 83 00:04:46,733 --> 00:04:49,493 Speaker 5: of things as humans and things, so he'd be've done 84 00:04:49,493 --> 00:04:51,373 Speaker 5: a really nice balance here of providing you with what 85 00:04:51,493 --> 00:04:54,773 Speaker 5: you expect, you know, collapsing buildings and Metropolis falling over 86 00:04:54,933 --> 00:04:57,733 Speaker 5: and all the action. And they've thrown you know, some 87 00:04:57,933 --> 00:05:02,173 Speaker 5: extra superheroes at us because James Gunn loves an ensemble cast. 88 00:05:02,573 --> 00:05:04,413 Speaker 5: So there's you know, we've got a great little mix 89 00:05:04,533 --> 00:05:07,053 Speaker 5: here of the Justice Gang drawing Sugmann. But then there's 90 00:05:07,053 --> 00:05:09,773 Speaker 5: also sort of this internal battle going on which kind 91 00:05:09,813 --> 00:05:11,573 Speaker 5: of tries to give the film a little bit of 92 00:05:11,653 --> 00:05:14,053 Speaker 5: heart and things. I didn't get caught up. It didn't 93 00:05:14,133 --> 00:05:16,133 Speaker 5: kind of tug on me, tug on the heartstrings. I 94 00:05:16,133 --> 00:05:19,053 Speaker 5: didn't get emotional over it. It's two hours and nine 95 00:05:19,093 --> 00:05:21,693 Speaker 5: minutes long. It could have been two hours that would 96 00:05:21,733 --> 00:05:25,893 Speaker 5: have been perfect. It's good and it's refreshing. It's not 97 00:05:26,053 --> 00:05:28,373 Speaker 5: probably great. It's you're probably not in the top echelon 98 00:05:28,613 --> 00:05:31,013 Speaker 5: of comic books heroes, but it's I'm really interested to 99 00:05:31,053 --> 00:05:34,453 Speaker 5: see what they do going forward with this. I'm interested. 100 00:05:34,533 --> 00:05:36,493 Speaker 5: They've got my intention. I like what they're doing. 101 00:05:36,613 --> 00:05:39,373 Speaker 4: Ok yeah, cool, Okay, So that's Superman that's showing in 102 00:05:39,453 --> 00:05:42,533 Speaker 4: cinemas at the moment. I out on Prime Video at 103 00:05:42,573 --> 00:05:45,573 Speaker 4: the moment, starring John Senna and Idris Elbert, have a 104 00:05:45,653 --> 00:05:47,573 Speaker 4: listen to heads of state. 105 00:05:49,173 --> 00:05:52,573 Speaker 1: It's the Prime Minister, mister President deem, you do it? 106 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:57,733 Speaker 3: What's that that can't be good? 107 00:05:59,773 --> 00:06:00,213 Speaker 4: A minute? 108 00:06:00,333 --> 00:06:05,173 Speaker 3: I have something to say, right, Oh, this sounds like 109 00:06:05,253 --> 00:06:07,493 Speaker 3: a cerebral watch. Francesca. 110 00:06:08,493 --> 00:06:10,853 Speaker 5: Look, I did, yes, I did not have much hope 111 00:06:10,853 --> 00:06:13,373 Speaker 5: for this. And actually, when I finished watching this film, Jack, 112 00:06:13,373 --> 00:06:14,733 Speaker 5: I thought they should have put this out on the 113 00:06:14,773 --> 00:06:17,733 Speaker 5: big screen. Would have I think it would have for 114 00:06:17,973 --> 00:06:21,573 Speaker 5: me because no, no, but it embraces its absurdity and 115 00:06:21,653 --> 00:06:24,093 Speaker 5: it has a blast with it and it's kind of 116 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:27,333 Speaker 5: got inventive, and it's got some interestingly shot action, like 117 00:06:27,653 --> 00:06:30,133 Speaker 5: it's not a normal streaming film where they're crying a 118 00:06:30,173 --> 00:06:32,413 Speaker 5: big budget at it. But then it feels a bit lazy, 119 00:06:33,213 --> 00:06:35,093 Speaker 5: sort of made a bit of an effort here, which 120 00:06:35,173 --> 00:06:37,333 Speaker 5: took me by surprise too. So it's an action thriller 121 00:06:37,373 --> 00:06:40,013 Speaker 5: A buddy flick. John Senner is an actor turned president 122 00:06:40,053 --> 00:06:42,333 Speaker 5: of the US. Idris Albert is the Prime Minister of 123 00:06:42,373 --> 00:06:43,813 Speaker 5: the UK. They do not get on, They do not 124 00:06:43,893 --> 00:06:45,813 Speaker 5: have a good relationship. They decide to try and fix 125 00:06:45,853 --> 00:06:49,253 Speaker 5: it by taking a trip together on Air Force one 126 00:06:49,453 --> 00:06:52,253 Speaker 5: to a meeting. An Air Force one is shot down 127 00:06:52,253 --> 00:06:54,933 Speaker 5: and they fell and they find themselves in the Belarussian woods. 128 00:06:55,293 --> 00:06:57,013 Speaker 5: Takes a while to kind of click into It takes 129 00:06:57,053 --> 00:07:00,373 Speaker 5: a while to get there, but these two work really 130 00:07:00,453 --> 00:07:03,293 Speaker 5: really well together and then they're sort of thrown in. 131 00:07:03,693 --> 00:07:06,973 Speaker 5: They have sort of throbven in some relevant gendas of 132 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:11,573 Speaker 5: the day. So they're heading to a NATO meeting. There 133 00:07:11,613 --> 00:07:14,453 Speaker 5: are speeches on NATO's value it's a peacekeeping force, and 134 00:07:14,573 --> 00:07:16,333 Speaker 5: they talk about the idea that NATO has been holding 135 00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:18,333 Speaker 5: up Europe and America doesn't want to do that anymore. 136 00:07:18,933 --> 00:07:20,413 Speaker 5: So they're sort of looking at quite a lot of 137 00:07:20,453 --> 00:07:22,493 Speaker 5: the political issues which are taking place right now. So 138 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:25,493 Speaker 5: I th made a bit of an effort. But yeah, 139 00:07:25,613 --> 00:07:27,933 Speaker 5: the script's okay. It is quite funny at times. The 140 00:07:28,053 --> 00:07:31,253 Speaker 5: action's great, as I said, quite innovatively shot at times, 141 00:07:31,373 --> 00:07:34,613 Speaker 5: and the two were charming together. So for what it is, 142 00:07:34,733 --> 00:07:37,013 Speaker 5: it's a silly, actual comedy, but they kind of pull 143 00:07:37,053 --> 00:07:37,373 Speaker 5: it off. 144 00:07:37,613 --> 00:07:37,853 Speaker 3: Okay. 145 00:07:38,653 --> 00:07:40,533 Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you're looking for some if you're going, 146 00:07:40,613 --> 00:07:42,453 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, we've just got to me finally got 147 00:07:42,493 --> 00:07:44,333 Speaker 5: to end of the holidays, we've survived, and you just 148 00:07:44,413 --> 00:07:45,533 Speaker 5: need to crash this weekend. 149 00:07:45,693 --> 00:07:46,653 Speaker 3: Yeah you got prime. 150 00:07:46,973 --> 00:07:47,653 Speaker 5: Yeah, give it a lot. 151 00:07:47,693 --> 00:07:49,653 Speaker 3: It's a bit of fun. Okay, ye'll like see here. 152 00:07:49,693 --> 00:07:51,933 Speaker 4: I was being all kind of hoity toity about it, 153 00:07:52,013 --> 00:07:54,253 Speaker 4: but maybe, you know, maybe a bit of escapism and 154 00:07:54,733 --> 00:07:56,853 Speaker 4: escapism done well is actually the sort of thing we 155 00:07:56,893 --> 00:08:00,173 Speaker 4: should be embracing. Okay, thank you, Francesca. So that's Heads 156 00:08:00,173 --> 00:08:03,893 Speaker 4: of State. That's on prime video. Superman is showing in cinemas, 157 00:08:03,973 --> 00:08:06,213 Speaker 4: and after ten o'clock. If you can't be bothered leaving 158 00:08:06,253 --> 00:08:08,213 Speaker 4: a couch this weekend and you're looking for something good, 159 00:08:08,213 --> 00:08:10,533 Speaker 4: we're going to tell you about a new documentary you 160 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:14,093 Speaker 4: can stream at home called Jaws at fifty. As the 161 00:08:14,213 --> 00:08:17,853 Speaker 4: name suggests, it's a look back at Jaws, the film, 162 00:08:17,973 --> 00:08:20,813 Speaker 4: which is now fifty years old, and the kind of 163 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:25,973 Speaker 4: various production issues, but also the incredible social cultural impact 164 00:08:26,133 --> 00:08:28,293 Speaker 4: that that movie has had. I don't know, would Jaws 165 00:08:29,013 --> 00:08:31,653 Speaker 4: have had more of a cultural impact than any other 166 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:34,853 Speaker 4: film since I reckon? There's probably a good argument to 167 00:08:34,933 --> 00:08:35,853 Speaker 4: be made that a hair days. 168 00:08:36,413 --> 00:08:39,493 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 169 00:08:39,573 --> 00:08:42,733 Speaker 1: to News talks 'b from nine am Saturday, or follow 170 00:08:42,813 --> 00:08:44,333 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.