1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Time to catch up with US countries most followed and 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: talked about. Race car exponent Liam Lawson pretty much completed 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: his first full season now remembering he was promoted to 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: cover Daniel Ricardo with a handful of races to go previously, 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: then the promotion to Red Bull two races in back 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: to Racing Bulls. He sits ahead of this weekend's racing 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: into Lagos on thirty points, ahead ironically of uk Sonoda 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: his team chasing the midfield title on seventy two. Anyway, 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Liam Lawson is with us. Good morning, good morning, Thank 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: you very much for having me. No, it's a great pleasure. 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: How is life just because it's been a while since 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: we talked, are you still, despite everything and with everything 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: pinching yourself on a weekly basis, that you're living your dream? 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: It's something for sure that I have to I think 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: in everything, no matter sort of what industry you're in 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: with out obviously for me, I'm lucky enough to be 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: doing this, But I think it doesn't really matter what 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 2: industry that you're in. I think when you're obviously achieving 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: what you set out to do or trying to, at 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: least obviously in my eyes, I'm not quite there yet, 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: but I think it's important, sir, for sure sort of 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: sit back and realize what's going on, because it's it 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: is cool. It's just always obviously striving for for more. 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: What you thought you would get versus what you have. God, 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: what's the difference. 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: I think. I think the pressure of the sort of 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: intensity of it is everything I expected. I think I 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: already thought that sort of time went quickly, and now 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: it's just going even quicker, like the fact that we 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: are one month away from the end of the season 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: as wild It's been an extremely intensity. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I think. 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: At the same time, just because of how everything played 34 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: out this year, it's been that side of it is 35 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: not what I expected. Obviously, it's something that you know, 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: I went into this year with a plan and obviously 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: it's gone in a different direction, and I'm grateful to 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: still be driving, but obviously I'm working through that. So 39 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 2: I think that it's different in ways because of just 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: how everything played out this year. But I think at 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: the same time, you know, still being Formula one and 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: trying to fight for a seat next year, is it's 43 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: obviously what I set out to do. 44 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Are you used to that pressure yet? 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: I think so, I think it's something that's I don't 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: think you ever fully get used to it. I don't 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: think it's something that you I think if you're comfortable, 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: completely comfortable with it, then it's not important enough to you. 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: So I think that I've dealt with this pressure since 50 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 2: I was very young, because joining the junior program is 51 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: something that they put us through it at sixteen years old, 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: so it sort of prepares you for the sort of 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: step up when you get to F one. But I 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: think to be used to it, I would say, wouldn't 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 2: mean that it's not it's not doesn't mean enough, or 56 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: it's not important enough. So it's it's definitely still there 57 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: and it's still a battle obviously every weekend. 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: How would you score yourself this season? 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Not high enough, not as high as I wanted to. 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: But I think it's very rare that, you know, I think, 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: at least for me. You know, I can't speak for everybody, 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: but I think it's very rare to look back on 63 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: stuff and and think I did everything, you know, exactly 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: as I wanted to do. I think for me, as 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: long as I look back on this year and learn 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: from things that I feel like I could have done 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: better or could have been better. I think we've done 68 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: a really good job through a good part of this year. 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: The second half of the year's been a lot stronger. 70 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: I think we were trying to play catch up for 71 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: the first part because of the way the start of 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: the year unfolded, and I think that's we definitely got there. 73 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: But you know, in a sport where there's just so 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: many variables and you just don't put one piece of 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: the puzzle together on a race weekend, and you, especially 76 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: in a season that's so close, you just get knocked 77 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: out and you're fighting where you don't want to be fighting. 78 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's trying to do that every single 79 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: weekend and have everything go right is very tough. But 80 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: those are the things that I look back on and 81 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: learn from from the stuff that didn't. 82 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: How much better are you as a driver from the 83 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: start of IF one to right now? 84 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: I think I think I think it's hard to say 85 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: a lot, because I think but by the time you 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: get to IF one, you've gone through such a development 87 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: process to be ready for IF one, But I would 88 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: say a good step. I think I probably learned the 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: most this year or developed the most this year out 90 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: of any other year. I think you obviously on your 91 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: pathway to Formula one and the step to IF one 92 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: is very very big, and we try and prepare for it, 93 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: but there's nothing like being in it and being in 94 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: it for a year and going through everything that sort 95 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: of we've gone through this year. I think all of 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: the hard stuff as well always sort of makes you 97 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: better anyway. And I think if there's anything if I 98 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: come out of this this year, which is what I'm 99 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: trying to do, I think then I'll be in a 100 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: much better place because of sort of the hard stuff 101 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: that's been that's been on this year. 102 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: See when you say if I come out of this, 103 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you because I watch you 104 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: every week and they ask you the same questions, and 105 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: you must be sick and tired of listening to those 106 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: questions and having to come up with some sort of answer. 107 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: You could ask me, because I think it's obviously the 108 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: question that's it's the same. This is the way our 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: sport is still when you come into our sport, it's 110 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: it's you know, everybody's put under the pressure. You get 111 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: you get your first year, and it's try and perform 112 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: and deliver and then you get resigned, and I think 113 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: it's at the point of the year where obviously it's 114 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: it's the decisions sort of being made around this, around 115 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: the four seats at R and L camp for next year. 116 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: So it's something that obviously I'm very aware of. But 117 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: at the same time, it doesn't change really anything I'm doing, 118 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: and I doesn't change their approach to each race weekend. 119 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: All that stays the same. So yeah, it's something that's 120 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: obviously these these races are very important to determine. 121 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Is it something you talk about in between race meetings 122 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: or even at race meetings over the weekend in the 123 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: sense that everybody knows that someone somewhere, whether it be 124 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: Marker or Mechis, is making a decision and that might 125 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: be communicated or it might not. I mean, is there 126 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: black humor in the garage or do you just not 127 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: talk about it in focus something? 128 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, it's something that I would say I only 129 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: talk about with the with basically that sort of the 130 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 2: people who are making that decision, with with either Helmets 131 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: or with the Rents or with Allen. You know, it's 132 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 2: those sort of the discussions that I'll be having and 133 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: outside of that I think it's just something that we're 134 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: all very There's so much we have sort of to 135 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: do on a race weekend, and the build ups of 136 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: a race weekend, you know, we get less and there's 137 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 2: time now there's more and more races at the moment, 138 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: and it's basically we're just flat out trying to It's 139 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: crazy how you you leave race weekend and just straight 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: away switch on to the next one. I think that's 141 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: been something that has been something of learning process this year, 142 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: trying to take the things that I can learn from 143 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: and the positives and also the negatives, but the things 144 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: that I can learn from and just straight away move 145 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: straight on to the next one. And you don't really 146 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: have time to dwell or think about what's what's happening 147 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: fair enough? 148 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: So I mean, let me ask you, is it true 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: that you simply don't know what your future is next year? 150 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: And the reason I ask it that specifically is it 151 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: does seem unfair to me that if they want the 152 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: is from you, they need to give you some sort 153 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: of guide or pathway. Otherwise you're just sitting there going 154 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: you know what the hell am I doing? Yeah? 155 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: I think the pathway with the guide is to perform, 156 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: and if you perform, you you stay on the sport. 157 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's just how it's been since I 158 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: was sixteen years old, so it's been since I joined 159 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: the since I joined the program. That's just how it is, 160 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: and that's basically my guide, and you know that's really 161 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm going to have updates and have conversations along 162 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: the way, but I think at this point right now, 163 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: the decision is not clear and hasn't been made and 164 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: has a center position where basically I'm still working towards 165 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: trying to secure that seat. 166 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: And is it made clear to you at the end 167 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: of the weekend. So the last couple for Singapore, you 168 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: ran into a couple of walls. Sometimes you can't get 169 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the tires heated up. None of that's your fault necessarily, 170 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: is it communicated going that's on us not you don't panic. 171 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, it's something that's I would say. I try to 172 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: take responsibility for everything I can, I would say, and 173 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: it's something that's for sure. If if there's if there's 174 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: a situation where you know, either a mechanical failure or 175 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: something like that, or then then or something you know, 176 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: something that we had planned that that just didn't go 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: like it was meant to with a run panel or 178 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: something like that. For sure, the team would take sort 179 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: of responsibility one that, but I think it's something that 180 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: we also collectively agree on stuff together, and it wouldn't 181 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: be fair as well for me to just basically put 182 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: stuff on them, because for sure I make mistakes as well, 183 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: and they have done, you know, a load of across 184 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: this year, so you know, when we're coming up to 185 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: making plans, we're in a sport where there's just so 186 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: many variables and nothing's ever going to go completely right. 187 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: So I think it's just accepting that. 188 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: That's what I've learned out of this year is I 189 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: look at Lewis Hamilton, I look at carloss Science, two 190 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: of the greatest drivers of the generation. Put them in 191 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: a different team, in a different carr and look how 192 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: they've struggled. I mean that that's what you It's actually 193 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: what you faced as a rookie, isn't it. 194 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's yeah, obviously there'll there'll always 195 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: be conversations and I'll you know, I haven't really had 196 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: a chance, but maybe if I, if I get proper time, 197 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: I'll look back on reflect reflect completely on how everything 198 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: unfolded this year. But I think, you know a big 199 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: part of it is, you know, your preseason prep and 200 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: stuff like that. You go into a season. I went 201 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: into this year with a plan and sort of we 202 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: had a build up of procedure and sort of direction 203 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: we were heading. And when that gets you know, flipped 204 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: upside down. As much as I've driven this car last year, 205 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: I had to basically sort of catch up with everything, 206 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: the direction of the car, that the sort of development 207 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: that was going on, trying to get adjusted to it 208 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: again and do that, you know, straight into a triple 209 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: header at you know, sort of after the start of 210 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: the season. I think that was in a season that 211 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: this year, you know, one tenth can can be the 212 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: difference between being into, you know, in Q three or 213 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: being knocked out in Q one. Sometimes it's so close. 214 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: And it is it is an unfaired to ask you. 215 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I look at Sonoda, I look at you. 216 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: He's he's no better on that car than you were. 217 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: The cars of the problem we all know that is 218 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: there do any sense of resentment or on fairness or 219 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: it is what it. 220 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: Is, It's it's not something I think about directly with him. 221 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, I had 222 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: two races on two tracks i'd never been to. You know, 223 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: we didn't we didn't do pre set you know, we 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: didn't do a load of you know testing last year 225 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: and pre season testing to get ready for this this season. 226 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: So I'll never be able to compare because I just 227 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: didn't do the races I did too, and then I 228 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: was and then I was out. You know, He's had 229 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: a whole season in the car, so it's something that's 230 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: it's not I can't. I could never compare with that 231 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: because you know, obviously, as a racing driver, I'm always 232 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: gonna we always back ourselves right, and I'm always gonna 233 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: sit here and go hey, after this amount of time, 234 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: I feel like I would have got my head around 235 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: it and then and been somewhere. But I think to compare, 236 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: he didn't get given the same amount of races. 237 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: If it pours them into Lagos', is that good or not? 238 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind it too. I think in a season 239 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: that's so close, you know, something like that, a variable 240 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: like that. You know, we had extreme wins in VACU 241 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: that basically helped us a lot in qualifying and something 242 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: like that, you know, a weather sort of change and 243 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: qualifying or in the weekend would be good. It was 244 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: good for us last year, so I think so all. 245 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: Right, it's always a pleasure to catch up with you, mate. 246 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: I hope you I say the super time, but I 247 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: hope you understand just how many New Zealanders love what 248 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: you're doing and enjoy it each time your race and 249 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: it's a thrill to watch. 250 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: It's very cool for me, Tore and thanks very much, Mike. 251 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: I speak you soon. 252 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: All right, there we go. The good news is we're 253 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: not done with Liam Lawson this morning yet. 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