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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Find You're

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Speaker 1: one of a Kind.

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Speaker 2: On one hundreds US this evening we have Mark Sainsbury,

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Speaker 2: broadcaster and Thomas Scrimger of the Maximum Institute Hallow Lads

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Speaker 2: here though says oh do you like those deportation plans?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Look at I mean some of the stuff is just

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Speaker 3: pretty obvious, isn't it. Sort of things that have been

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Speaker 3: slipping through and especially you and I think it was

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Speaker 3: the Jazz Brothers is what focused everyone's attention on this.

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Speaker 3: That sort of people could be here and look out

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Speaker 3: reagently the Aussie's seen anyone who plays up back here.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a move in the right. It will

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Speaker 3: be a popular move.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I mean, Thomas if because we are far

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Speaker 2: too soft if you think about it. The Aussies will

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Speaker 2: only keep you if you're a citizen, whereas we keep

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Speaker 2: you if you're a resident of more than ten years.

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Speaker 2: That's that's far too lax.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think extending the length of time you know

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Speaker 5: people have been here and can still be deported is

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Speaker 5: a good thing. And ultimately I think it it probably

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Speaker 5: doesn't even need to be a camp. I do think

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Speaker 5: the Aussies go too far, perhaps of people who are

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Speaker 5: sort of raised there from childhood, but we're not born there,

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Speaker 5: and so essentially all of their connections have only ever

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Speaker 5: been an Ossie.

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Speaker 4: They send them back to us and we're not that impressed.

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Speaker 5: So I think, you know, when the government looks at this,

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Speaker 5: perhaps they might consider people who have had their childhoods

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Speaker 5: in New Zealand as well might be considered part of us.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, the other thing they're doing, which

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Speaker 5: I thought was quite good, was tiny I've strengthening some

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Speaker 5: of the sentences for people who are exploiting migrants, and

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Speaker 5: they might be Kiwi citizens who are hiring migrants and

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Speaker 5: exploitive circumstances and keeping them here. The migrant is committing

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Speaker 5: an offense by overstaying, but so is the employer. So

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Speaker 5: I think that's another good move that's been Do you

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Speaker 5: where would.

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Speaker 2: You start the adulthood from?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not sure where I would start the adulthood from.

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Speaker 5: I think i'd have to to sixteen, which the stories

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Speaker 5: about where people are.

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Speaker 3: At to school.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon, Thomas, You've got here after eighteen

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Speaker 2: you can go back oh atally.

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Speaker 4: Could be even later than that.

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Speaker 5: You know, if someone moves here as a sixteen year old,

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Speaker 5: perhaps we'd say that actually they had a substantive experience

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Speaker 5: in their home country, which is the main thing. There'd

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Speaker 5: be a to what extent did they have agency in

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Speaker 5: moving here versus where their child? And do they have

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Speaker 5: experience of where we are sending them back to, because

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Speaker 5: if they are from a country, you know they were

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Speaker 5: born somewhere else, but they've never had any lived experience

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Speaker 5: there to send them over there is perhaps no okay, what.

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Speaker 2: About this though? Saying so, so I grew up part

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Speaker 2: of my life in South Africa, right because a lot

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Speaker 2: of my mum's side of the family's from South Africa

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Speaker 2: and I and we left for like my dad being ky.

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Speaker 2: We we moved between. But the last time that we

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Speaker 2: moved here was when I was twelve years old. You

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Speaker 2: could deport me to South Africa and I could pick

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Speaker 2: my life up. So maybe maybe we can make it

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Speaker 2: from if you were older than twelve, you're going home?

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Jeezus, we would want you in charge of this. I

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Speaker 3: didn't think of it. It's a tough time. Look yeah,

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Speaker 3: look it up. And I agree with Thomas as well

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Speaker 3: that we talk about the five oh ones. We certainly

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Speaker 3: don't want that situation here were, as Thomas, we're sending

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Speaker 3: people back to somewhere they have no experience. So where

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Speaker 3: do you set that balance? Yeah, and I certainly think

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Speaker 3: that if you come over here eighteen or over.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just argue twelve. What's wrong with twelve?

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Speaker 3: You come out here as twelve, and then twenty years

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Speaker 3: later you're getting sent back to where you came from.

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Speaker 2: I'm pleased you only think I'm thirty two. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but because if you've got family there, you can pick

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: Look, I think I need to be sent to the

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Speaker 2: Select Committee. I'll I'll mount a pretty good argument. Thomas.

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Speaker 2: You don't strike me as somebody who's going to be

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Speaker 2: into Ike, are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not hugely into Ike.

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Speaker 5: You know. I think the best way to get furniture

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Speaker 5: is to get it you steal it second hand off

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Speaker 5: your family members. Oh, all furniture should be free, is

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Speaker 5: my basic take. You know, don't want to spend money

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Speaker 5: on furniture. There's other things to buy in the world.

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Speaker 2: Saying so, I thought he'd be a man who like

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Speaker 2: you know, no, it has to be antique or something. No,

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Speaker 2: you're an antique man, no, aren't you saying?

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Speaker 3: So? Look, I'm like I like a bit of like,

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Speaker 3: I like a bit of deco stuff and whatever I

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Speaker 3: am dying ike to open. I used to go in

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Speaker 3: the UK when I was when I was over there.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I found the most interesting? I

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Speaker 3: found it about it? Though? They were they were saying

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Speaker 3: in the in the release that they had twenty eight

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Speaker 3: dedicated motorbike parking spots.

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Speaker 2: Who's going to.

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Speaker 3: Leave for caring home? Yeah? What are you carrying home? For?

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Speaker 3: My ke motified?

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Speaker 2: But do you know what it might be saying? So

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Speaker 2: because myself and Laura the German have figured out because

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Speaker 2: she's because she's from Europe, so they have i KEA

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Speaker 2: all time, so she's already sussed this out. She says,

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Speaker 2: what you need to do is go in and then

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Speaker 2: just take photos of the things you want, then go

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Speaker 2: home and order it online and get it delivered because

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Speaker 2: you don't want to be slipping those boxes. So maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what the motorbike people are doing.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's right, But do you get amice seeing

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Speaker 3: someone down with their sort of flat packed bed stretched

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Speaker 3: there fifty step through?

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Speaker 2: Where do things have happened?

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global

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Speaker 2: Listen, I have if you've got tickets to Snoop Dogg,

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Speaker 2: I've got bad news for you. I've got potentially quite

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Speaker 2: bad news for you. So stand by because we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about this urgently shortly. Thomas Scrimger and Mark

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Speaker 2: Sainsbury back on the huddle with us. Thomas, listen, I

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Speaker 2: need to get to the bottom of something, Okay. I

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Speaker 2: am curious about why the Maori Party has apologized for

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Speaker 2: Takuta Feris being a racist when they've never apologized for

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Speaker 2: being racists before. So what's up?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, obviously the comments were deeply offensive and

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Speaker 5: to party Marii may not be looking to win many

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Speaker 5: many votes from a wide range of ethnicities in this

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Speaker 5: particular Marii Electric campaign.

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Speaker 4: But if their goal is at.

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Speaker 5: The end of the day, and you know, after the

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Speaker 5: next election, to form a government, it's going to be

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Speaker 5: hard to form a government without having any Indian, Asian,

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Speaker 5: Black or Parki Our voters on board. And so even

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Speaker 5: if then not pursuing those votes. Certainly, you'd think Labor

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Speaker 5: and the Greens are getting very very nervous if their

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Speaker 2: So, Thomas, are you arguing that it is possible that

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Speaker 2: maybe Labour has sat down with them and told them

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Speaker 2: to tone this stuff down.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure whether it has or has not happened,

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Speaker 4: but it should have if Labor is wanting to get

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Speaker 4: into government. The media New Zealand voter is going to

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Speaker 4: be very worried if this kind of racialized language has

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Speaker 4: any place in our politics. I don't think Kew's have

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Speaker 4: any interest in that kind of divisive rhetoric. So if

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Speaker 4: Chris Hopkins wants to form a coalition that has any

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Speaker 4: possibility of getting anywhere, in any possibility of enduring should

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Speaker 4: it form, he should have called the Tow Party Maori

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Speaker 4: leaders and read them the Riot Act.

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Speaker 3: What are you Reckoncernso yeah, I mean, the whole thing's

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Speaker 3: just not good, is it, you know? And why are

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Speaker 3: they're apologizing over this and they haven't apologized in the past.

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Speaker 3: I think it was just so much in your face

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Speaker 3: that he Jackson actually son m he says that the

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Speaker 3: guy needs to grow up. I mean, what an absolutely

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Speaker 3: stupid and offensive thing to do. And and this comes

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Speaker 3: back to this is the big problem that labor must

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Speaker 3: be just so worried about that come you know, come

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Speaker 3: the election. That's it. It may well be that the

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Speaker 3: Marii party could be deciding votes. And how they're going

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Speaker 3: to deal with that, how a they're going to you know,

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Speaker 3: they're going to have to start calling them out and

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Speaker 3: taking them much stronger. Well, I think in this case

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Speaker 3: because everyone else was going to pile and and even

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Speaker 3: as another thing is Willy Jackson says that he said

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Speaker 3: the queen was not impressed. Well, if that's true, that

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Speaker 3: could well be another factor as well.

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Speaker 2: Is the queen down at Cornehan Yeah yeah, yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: He's saying he's saying he seems offside not only with

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Speaker 2: It's not impressed. Well, then that tells you a lot

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Speaker 3: And Willie's never going to miss an opportunity acause.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the city to see, I

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Speaker 2: feel like you like the city to see bridge, don't

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Speaker 3: I just what I cannot get my head around was

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Speaker 3: all this how much they kept saying. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: been around rage I you know, walk around there and

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Speaker 3: when you're going down the waterfront. It's it's a great

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Speaker 3: thing to have. But I just can't understand why this

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Speaker 2: Probably because it's just it's just cobbled together crap that.

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Speaker 4: If you do a shitty job the first.

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Speaker 3: You're indy on the tools here, Why don't you get

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Speaker 3: down here?

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Speaker 6: Tell you what, give me a chainsaw. I'm sort it

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Speaker 6: out for them really quickly. Thomas, your heart out, Thomas.

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Speaker 6: Apparently what they want is everybody who loves loves the

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Speaker 6: bridge to go do some civil disobedience.

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Speaker 2: What do you what do you think is going to happen?

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know that they need to be doing

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Speaker 5: civil disobedience. I reckon a good old fashioned working bee.

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Speaker 5: Just get the gang together. Everyone brings their own hammer

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Speaker 5: and nail, and I reckon we can strengthen the thing up.

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Speaker 5: You know, back in the day, we didn't need to

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Speaker 5: do these engineering reports and anything. Just everyone who loves

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Speaker 5: the bridge, don't protest, bring your tools. We can get

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Speaker 5: it squared away and I'm sure it'll all work out.

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Speaker 6: Not a bad idea.

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Speaker 2: If you love it, pay for the fix. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. For you to Thomas Scrimger Mark Sainsbury.

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