1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Now again to Inde Brady, a UK correspondent in the 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: good evening. 3 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: To you, Hey, Ryan, good to speak to you again. 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Good to speak to you too. So the UK getting 5 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: even taffer on deporting illegal immigrants, what's the lightest there? 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: So what's behind this is the rise of the Reform 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Party led by Nigel Farage and he obviously every time 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: he speaks pretty much speaks about migrants, immigration, the state 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: of the country and how the government is failing on this. 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: So what really I think is driving Starmer and pushing 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: their hands the fact that Reform in the most recent 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: national poll went one percent above Labor reformerund twenty five percent. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: Now this is a party with only five members and 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: yet everyone's talking about them. They get a lot of 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 2: media coverage. So overnight what we've seen is the UK 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: government announced that since Labour came to power last July, 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: they have deported nineteen thousand people out of the UK, 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: from failed asylum seekers to illegal immigrants, people who've come 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: across those dinghies from France and foreign criminals who've been 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: released from prison, and Labor are saying that this is 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: the highest this figure has been in this short space 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: of time for about eight years, so they're claiming the 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: credit for that. And in addition, they've also released a 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: video on social media showing someone arriving in the UK, 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: someone getting detained at a property and then put on 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: a jet back to their home country, basically the journey 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: of an illegal immigrant. So Labor making the point that 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: they are making progress on this but obviously not quick 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: enough for Nigel Farage. 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Now calling it feeble. And because I was writing an 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: article the other day, they were around six hundred thousand. 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Were in estimates of six hundred thousand illegal migrants in 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: London alone at the moment. 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And what we're seeing is, you know, the 35 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: government going rounding up a couple of dozen people who 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: work in nail bars and then releasing this in the media. 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's a huge, huge problem here. But 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: I think what they need to be doing is cracking 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: down on the businesses and the criminal enterprises who are 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: making money off these people's backs. You know a lot 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: of these people are it's modern slavery in some cases, 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: and what we need to see is a far more 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: joined up approach from all the authorities to crack down 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: on the people who are making millions and millions every 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: week off the back of these people. 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: The EU's saying they're going to fight back against Trump's 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: terraces and kiss Damer you're saying, well, we're not joining you. 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: You're on your own, Yes, precisely that. So this is 49 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: a very awkward situation now where France and Germany are 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: very much on the same page. Schultz and Macron have 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: both come out this morning and said, okay, you put 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: twenty five percent tariffs on European steel, and our steel 53 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: going into America will do the same, and everything that 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: comes out of America with stealing it. A Starmer has 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: been trying to build bridges, build a relationship with Trump 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: and not fall out with him. British steel, with the 57 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: British steels on its knees as it is, I mean, 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: this would be not the final nail in the coffin. 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: This will be pushing the coffin into the incinerator in 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: the crematorium if we end up with twenty five percent 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: tart some British steel. So Starmer is at pains to 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: avoid upsetting Trump and hoping that they can negotiate some 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: sort of exemption. Apparently Australia is getting an exemption because 64 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Trump fields they have a trade surplus and that the 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Australians are not causing the Americans a problem. So I 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: think Starmer will be doing anything he can to avoid 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: twenty five percent tax being whacked on British steel. 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And you can understand why still mystery around 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the deaths of this British couple have been found in France. 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: What do we know about what's happened or the latest theory. 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: So this is Andy and Dawn Cyle. They were living 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: in a tiny little hamlet, not even a village, tiny 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: beautiful little hamlet about two hours north of Toulouse in 74 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: southern France, and they were both found dead over the weekend, 75 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: huge police investigation. Dawn Cerl was found beaten to death 76 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: outside the proper and her husband was found dead inside 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: the property. Now the police theories range from was it 78 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: a murder suicide? Their friends are saying there's categorically no 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: way they killed each other, or one or the other, 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: you know whatever. Their friends are saying they were happy, 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: very very happy, no financial problems, and they were living 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: their best life in France. They'd learned French. They had 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: many friends in the area and they've completely integrated themselves 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: into a beautiful part of southern France. So their friends 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: are saying that quite clearly they've been murdered. Now one 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: theory police are looking at in France. Andy Cerrle, when 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: he worked in the UK, was a financial crimes investigator 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: and French police are wondering is it some criminal in 89 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: the UK who has tracked him down. But people in 90 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: the banking world they're saying, actually, all this kind of 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: financial crime investigation is quite anonymous and criminals would never 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: know who was investigating them anyway, because it's all done 93 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: behind computer screens. So right now it is a mystery. 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: Areas sealed off and French police in charge of the investigation. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: But families devastated at the loss of two fine people. 96 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: It's awful and you did you would hope for some 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: quick answers for those family members too, and to thank 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: you very much for that love you To have you 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: on as always into Brady are UK correspondent. 100 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 102 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.