1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: With us as the Prime minister. Chris lux and good morning, Chris. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Are you there, Chris? 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: I am. Can you hear me? 4 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Kremlin's in the system, not your faults, so don't worry 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: about it. Yes, I can hear you. Hey, listen, I 6 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: got a text. I got a text from somebody yesterday 7 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: to say that I have been giving Eric a stan 8 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: for too much credit. And the phone in school's band 9 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: was actually your idea? 10 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Was it? 11 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Well? 12 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: We both were very passionate about it. Yeah, I was 13 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: very passionate about it. I'd seen it in other parts 14 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: of the world, and we'd seen the advice actually from 15 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: school who already had it. But yeah, no, soon we 16 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: both joined. We both put that forward and we got 17 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: that through, which is great, and we got it done 18 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: fast because I raised it. 19 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Actually did you care so much about it? 20 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: Well, because it's I mean basically principals, teachers, parents, kids 21 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: filed out of control about it. The reality was at 22 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: the massive distraction in the classroom. We've got serious issues 23 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: around literacy and numeracy, as we've talked before, in school attendance. 24 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: Those are the three things we've got to focus on 25 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: back to basics. And it's been cool because actually, yes, 26 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: we took a bit of grief from the media in 27 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: the beginning and the opposition. But the point is the 28 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: principles are saying, rugby balls are going through windows again, 29 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: kids are actually talking to each other, cyber bullying is down, 30 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: and kids are less distracted. So all of that's a 31 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: good thing. And it's funny how even kids today will 32 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: come up to me and say, no, that's been a 33 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: good thing promised. So Nana, I'm on board with that. 34 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: That's okay, and so it's been good. So that's a 35 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: common sense, you know, a solution to a very common 36 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: problem that we've been. 37 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Having some and a very big problem. And make sure 38 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: that I give you some of the credit next time 39 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: I give her credit for it. 40 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know you were a Norwegian wine expert. 41 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: I just heard it coming into your show. So I 42 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: was thinking talking about all the big issues of the day. 43 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: You say to know a lot about. 44 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Norwegian some randomness, great worry and you know what it is, 45 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Chris subject Well, what it is, Chris, is that when 46 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: you can't have something because you're heavily pregnant, you just 47 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: get really obsessed with it. Do you know what I mean? 48 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: It's one of those fomo, that's what I've got. At 49 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: the minute. 50 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: You knew the type of grapes and everything, it was 51 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 2: quite something. 52 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: Well, thank you. Hey, So the high food today, should 53 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: we expect that you guys are going to push the 54 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: surplus out by another year? 55 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I'm not going to prempt the actual announcement 56 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: that's coming, but no surprises to anyone listening that. You know, 57 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: times are tough and we've had a we've inherited very 58 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: challenging economics. Look, we've got a choice, which as we 59 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: could continue carrying on spending as the last lot did, 60 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: which was tax spend and borrow more and massive debt 61 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: that we've got to deal with and interest payments around that, 62 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: or alternatively, we can throw the economy into really hard 63 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: austerity and that wouldn't be good either. I think we've 64 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: found the right balance, which is that actually we can 65 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: do get the front line right, get more value for 66 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: money out of the public service. We got to continue 67 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: that work for sure. That's not a one off. That 68 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: is daily practice here. We have to do that. We've 69 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: been able to get people tax relief and we're be 70 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: able to make some of those investments around the future. 71 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: But sometimes people say, well, why can't you just go 72 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: spend four billion dollars on fairies or three billion on 73 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Dunedin Hospital. Those are tough choices, and the reason is 74 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: that we need to have financial discipline in place because 75 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: how it manifests itself is with more in bigger debt, 76 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: which we just can't have. And ultimately, I think heither. 77 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: The stuff that you and I've talked about in the 78 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: past is for the last thirty years, this country's had 79 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: what we call an economic productivity disease. By how hard 80 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: we work with some of the hardest working people on earth, 81 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: we haven't been able to generate higher incomes that actually 82 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: transform the quality of our life. So you know, we 83 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: need to invest in the long term pieces around education 84 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: and science and infrastritally. 85 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: But you can cut harder than you are. 86 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to continue the pressure. But you know, 87 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: I think we found I think we're finding the balance 88 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: and you can kind of see that those settings are 89 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: leading to inflation and interest rate and text. 90 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Can we really say it's a balance, Chris, If you 91 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: still have more public servants working for us right now 92 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: than we had pre COVID. 93 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: Well there's more to do. That's what I'm saying. We're 94 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: going to continue that. I mean, you see us work 95 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: within the next few years. We've talked about very very 96 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: tight operating allowances which we're committed to working within, and 97 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: that will mean that we have to drive and extract 98 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: more value for money without to. 99 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Don Then why not just do it all in one go. 100 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you know that you're going to have 101 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: to cut harder, why drag it out and why it 102 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: right now? 103 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: Well we are, We're going to continue to push hard 104 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: and that's been the message immediately the day after budget 105 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: twenty four this year was exactly that message to my 106 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: ministers and to the public services. This is how we're 107 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: going to continue to roll. We're going to be relentless 108 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: about making sure we get value for money, a return 109 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: on that investment. That has to happen. And so yes, 110 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: you're right, there's more to do, but where we know 111 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: that and that's how we are rolling through. 112 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Think about it. I mean, nobody, nobody if you know that. 113 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: If you if you're running a household budget and you 114 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: know that you're getting into trouble with the credit card, 115 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: you don't cut. You don't cut a little bit, little 116 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: bit little bit, little bit, you go hard and you 117 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: just cut all the big expenses. Why ain't you guys 118 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: taking a similar approach. 119 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Well, hard austerity actually has a whole bunch of other implication. 120 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: It's not hard austerity, Chris, because if you're just taking 121 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: us back to pre COVID public servant levels, that's not austerity. 122 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: Well that may well be where we get too, but 123 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: the point is that we are working our way through that, 124 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: and we're doing that in a sensible kind of way 125 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: as we just you know, as we think about your 126 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: message very clearly to cease has been make sure all 127 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: the programs that you've got going on, all the funding 128 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: that you've got going on. And I can tell you 129 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 2: you know, there's an awful lot of providers, there's an 130 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 2: awful lot of money going out the door, a lot 131 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: of it gets lost bureaucracy. We're expecting massive amounts of efficiency. 132 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: We've had all the government agencies go through what we 133 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: call performance plans just in the last couple of months, 134 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 2: because that is actually helping those sees to really focus 135 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: on what we're asking them to deliver. That's why the 136 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: goals are there, That's why the cord action plans are 137 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: there because we want them to be focused on the 138 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: things that matter the most. And there's a lot of 139 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: stuff that's been going on, a lot of bureaucracy that's 140 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: built up that we've got to take out of the 141 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: system and so and liberate it and make it simpler. 142 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: We have a terrible habit in this country of complexing 143 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: things and making things very duplicate. If you've heard us 144 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: talk about councils yesterday, well the reason is councils and 145 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: local government are doing some of the same stuff, and 146 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: they should be complementary and working together doing the respective 147 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: roles that they have, not counsels trying to do the 148 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: work of central government and voice vice versa. 149 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: Listen on the fairies, Were you guys ready to sign 150 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: a contract for some new fairies in October? 151 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: Well, we've I mean on fairies. I saw your reporting 152 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: on that over the end of last week. But what 153 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: I'd say is it's really important we get this one rise. 154 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: You can't funfold it. 155 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: No, I know, and I want you to. But we're 156 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: signed a contract in October? 157 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: Well we've got We don't need to because if you 158 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: work backwards, the theories need to be replaced in twenty 159 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: twenty nine. We actually don't need to make a decision 160 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: on the procurement of that to the end of March 161 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: I think it is, or your end of March. And 162 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: as a result, what we've got is we've delivered a 163 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: really good option. You've got a value for money option exactly. 164 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: That's we just talked about, safe, reliable, resilient, two rail 165 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: compatible theories. Now, all we're saying is between now and 166 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: the next three or four months, we've got some time. 167 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: We've got a window if that proposal can be improved 168 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: upon and deliver more value for money and give us 169 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 2: a better solution than fantastic. But if it can't, we 170 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: go with the chief composition that we're. 171 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: So you have got a proposal ready to go, have you? 172 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: We have yeah, two rail compatible theories. That's what we're saying. 173 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: Who are you signed with? 174 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's we know we can procure these theories, but 175 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: we don't need to do that. 176 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: Is that from staying it? 177 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: I won't I want to talk about who it is 178 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: because that's all commercial and we'll let that run through. 179 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: But all I'm just saying is we've got a proposal, 180 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: which is two rail compatible fairies exactly as we have 181 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: today on the mix, but fairies that are right size, 182 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: fit for purpose, good value for money. 183 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 184 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: And if you want us, said to Winston, is that 185 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: as new Minister Rail, you've got till you know, you 186 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: got three months or so to actually see whether you 187 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: can improve further on that proposal. If not, that's what 188 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: we're going with. 189 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: And if you went with them, when they arrive. 190 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: They'll be here before twenty twenty nine, which is when 191 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: we need to replace. 192 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Them, okay. And are they going to cost nine hundred 193 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: million dollars together? 194 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to talk about any costs given 195 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: those commercial sensitivities, and those are decisions. 196 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: So this is because this is the original story that 197 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: we'd heard, which Winston then denied was true, that Nicola 198 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: had actually struck a deal for two fairies, and then 199 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Winston decided no, he wanted the opportunity to try and 200 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: see if he could better it that actually happened. 201 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, no, we if you just work backwards from a 202 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: timeline point of view, right, the fairies need to be 203 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: replaced in twenty twenty nine, the procurement decision needs to 204 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: be ultimately made. Is fine to be made at the 205 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: end of March or early April or whatever it is. 206 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: And the reality is we've got a great proposal which 207 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: we've built up with the Minister of Advisory Group with 208 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: conversations with the sector. We've come back with two rail 209 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: compatible ferries. So that's our default leed scenario right, And 210 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: all I've said to Winston is a new Minister of 211 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Rail and Fairness taking on a new portfolio which I 212 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: actually want some dedicated management a of the faery procurement process, 213 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: which is why we put it into a schedule for company. 214 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: And secondly, I'm unhappy with the performance of Kiwi Rail 215 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: in general. That actually given he's got to the end 216 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: of that period of time to actually see whether you 217 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: can improve on that solution. Okay, Chris, just being pragmatic 218 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: about it. 219 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: No, yep, it's not the story he told us. But 220 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with your story because I prefer it. 221 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: Actually, well that is the story. 222 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: Just so what are you doing for summer? 223 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: Look, hopefull you're getting into the T shirt and shorts. 224 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: And I haven't seen some of my family and friends 225 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 2: for a while, so it's just a great chance to 226 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: sort of catch up with everybody. And I hope you 227 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: get in a little boat and go fishing with Amanda 228 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: and maybe the kids and Olivia, my daughter is coming 229 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: in from overseas, which would be awesome to hang out 230 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: with her for a little bit too. So just doing 231 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: what I think everyone does, which is just refreshing, refueling. 232 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 2: And to all your listeners, I hope they do exactly 233 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 2: the same thing. 234 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely as much done as possible. Hey go well, 235 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: enjoy yourself, Merry Christmas and we'll see you on the 236 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: other side of the year. 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