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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: I want to get straight into the show today and

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Speaker 2: just a warning. Our first segment of the show today

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Speaker 2: discusses serious themes, including suicide. Former All Whites goalkeeper Jake Gleeson,

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Speaker 2: who played eight times for the national side between twenty

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Speaker 2: eleven and twenty fourteen, has been awarded thirty five million

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Speaker 2: thirty five point seven million New Zealand dollars and damages

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Speaker 2: after he brought a medical malpractice lawsuit against an ex

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Speaker 2: team doctor at Portland Timbers football Club. His career came

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Speaker 2: to a halt in twenty eighteen after surgery to treat

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Speaker 2: a stress fracture in his leg went terribly wrong. Both

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Speaker 2: legs became infected after a plate inserted into his leg

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Speaker 2: hadn't been properly sterilized. This led to multiple surgeries, serious

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Speaker 2: medical problems, and eventually the end of his professional career.

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Speaker 2: Jake Gleason is with us on news Talks. He'd be Jake,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us to tell us the story. Take

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Speaker 2: us back to twenty eighteen, back to the start and

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Speaker 2: tell us how this all began.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you having me on. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of funny to think back now. I just remember

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Speaker 3: having some champagne for quite some while some time back then,

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Speaker 3: and I'm getting worked done for some shin splints. Went

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Speaker 3: in for an X ray one day, and yeah, they

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Speaker 3: told me that I had some stress fractures at only

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Speaker 3: had a stress structure on one side and in the

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Speaker 3: beginning of the stress fructure on the other side. So

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Speaker 3: it's a bit of a bit of a cafe fault

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Speaker 3: this time. But we went into surgery that next week

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Speaker 3: with about a two to three month recovery time.

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Speaker 4: Didn't think too.

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Speaker 3: Much of it, thinking I was going to be out

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Speaker 3: on the field and probably that two month time frame

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Speaker 3: back up training playing doing what I loved. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's left the training field that day, not knowing that

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Speaker 3: you know what was to come and that would be

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Speaker 3: the last day would be training or be a professional footballer.

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Speaker 2: Really, when did it become apparent after that initial surgery

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Speaker 2: that something wasn't right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So it.

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Speaker 3: Took a few weeks that the infection shut up, about

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Speaker 3: just over two weeks I believe, from the initial surgery.

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Speaker 3: It showed up kind of just as a traditional infiction world.

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Speaker 3: I was put on some medication in for it to

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Speaker 3: help subside it, which initially did work. At this point,

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Speaker 3: I had no idea what had occurred in the first surgery,

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Speaker 3: so you know, when in there took all the antibiotics

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Speaker 3: the course of those oral antibiotics, the infection just kind

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Speaker 3: of came back with a vengeance. And at that point

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Speaker 3: the second surgery was needed for them to flush out

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 4: What that infection would be.

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Speaker 3: And this is on my right side, so the play

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Speaker 3: that got inserted that only went through we can get

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Speaker 3: into the smaller sterilization process. This has only happened in

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Speaker 3: my right league. My least league's perfectly fine at this time.

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Speaker 3: So they do the washout, which has an eighty percent

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Speaker 3: success rate. If it's just a surface label in fiction,

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Speaker 3: plus me being a young, healthy individual and being on

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Speaker 3: the oral and at that point at a pick line

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Speaker 3: and so a tube then when into near my heart,

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Speaker 3: so I was pumping an antibiotics summer league, we had

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Speaker 3: a very good chance if it was the surface label

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Speaker 3: in fiction to kick it, and it probably would have

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Speaker 3: set me back about you know, maybe maybe two to

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Speaker 3: three weeks, So that was the first side of the

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Speaker 3: infection and the first surgery. After the infection, they decided

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Speaker 3: to not remove the plate and leave the plate. Then

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Speaker 3: they didn't inspect the underside of the plate or the

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Speaker 3: screw holes, which where the infection was actually brewing, because

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Speaker 3: it came from the initial initial surgery and the breaching

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Speaker 3: sterilization protocol. And so at that point I was just

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Speaker 3: injecting every six hours, injecting fluid into this PEP line

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Speaker 3: and just hoping that in fiction would subside and go away.

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Speaker 2: But it didn't, and you had multiple surgeries after that,

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Speaker 2: and what it just kept on getting worse.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'll kind of go through the story as I've

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Speaker 3: been in the format that I can tell it best. Obviously, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it actually just got worse with the infection. My wound

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Speaker 3: of the wound on my right hand side side. At

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Speaker 3: this point, my left flip was completely fine, no signs

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Speaker 3: wasn't getting better with any of the antibiotocs that I

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Speaker 3: not sure on the timeline, it's been a few years.

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Speaker 3: They decided to remove the plate on my right leg

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Speaker 3: that was the side that barely had the streets stracture.

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Speaker 3: I think at that point the stret structure had healed,

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Speaker 3: right shin. So they went in there, I pulled out

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Speaker 3: the plate and then did a washout, and then they

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Speaker 3: closed up that wound. It was a few days later

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Speaker 3: I went in on a check up for the plate

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Speaker 3: to show signs of infection. And so essentially what had

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Speaker 3: I was gray, I wasn't eating about like I was

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Speaker 3: rotting from the inside. And I went in and they

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Speaker 3: pulled that plate out straight away. And essentially what had

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Speaker 3: happened is because I developed ostin melitis and my right leg,

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Speaker 3: essentially the infection had traveled through my blood and settled

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Speaker 3: could have avoided a lot more of the surgery that

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Speaker 3: I went through. On my one week follow up, I

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Speaker 3: went to see the same doctor and this was the

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Speaker 3: same doctor who was caring for me. Who's the main

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Speaker 3: doctor in this in this in this case, doctor Edelson

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Speaker 3: looked at my leaft leg and he said, yeah, your

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Speaker 3: left leg's healing really really well. Everything looks okay. It

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Speaker 3: this is two weeks post surgery from that right plate

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Speaker 3: I went in to see that other doctor the next day,

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Speaker 3: in five days to clear what would become oustermulitis and

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Speaker 3: dead bone. And so they had to go in and

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Speaker 4: It was, it was. It was a bad, bad scene.

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Speaker 3: Once you develop ostroumolitis, it's it's about as bad as

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Speaker 3: it can get as far as an infection goes. My

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Speaker 3: body's going Septic've got one hundred and four fahrenheit degree

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Speaker 3: which with all this medicine still coursing through me every week.

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Speaker 3: So it was after the first surgery of the new

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Speaker 2: Right, So it wasn't until then that you learned of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the doctor had essentially broken national state and his

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Speaker 3: that you have to go through to sterilizing in an

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it happened really, really, really quickly, and there's

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Speaker 2: So, Jake point, are you still hopeful of a return

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we kind of threw a hail Mary, which

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the New zeal't want it to

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Speaker 3: It's like a when a quarterback just throws the ball

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Speaker 4: So in February of the next.

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Speaker 3: Year, after my bone had kind of after things had

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Speaker 3: tittered down, I was off antibiotics, we decided to try

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Speaker 3: think the titanium rods through the middle of your tibia

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Speaker 3: I've got two rods put on my legs on the

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Speaker 3: Same kind of thing happened on the right leg. Because

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Speaker 3: the same path line. At this point, the new doctor

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Speaker 3: over and I knew that, so went in for more surgeries.

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Speaker 3: injecting more things than to me to try and try

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Speaker 3: and my best to get my career back because once

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Speaker 3: that thing came out, those holes take years to fill in.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not passing a Medical Ireland Bay in Wellington

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Speaker 3: when they picked me up mate with holes in my.

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Speaker 3: So eventually it was in the hospital. Was really sick.

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Speaker 3: Pickline wasn't working. Perkline got infected as well because it

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Speaker 3: had been on me for so long. I had a

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Speaker 3: and how much weight I lost and basically said that

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Speaker 3: rod has to come out and has to come out

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Speaker 2: So during this time, how much pain were you in?

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Speaker 2: How much pain are you are you still in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It never went through with that, which I'm I'm happy about,

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Speaker 2: Our guest is former All Whites goalkeeper Jake Gleeson. Awarded

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when once I found out what had occurred in

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Speaker 4: As you know, the New Zealand's not you, you can't

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Speaker 3: And I didn't even know what my rights were, even

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Speaker 3: He's an attorney as well, and they asked him, is

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Speaker 4: But but sure, he's sure is an honest one.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, at that point, I think once I found

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Speaker 3: There was no turning back once I once I found

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Speaker 2: How has this changed your relationship with with the Portland

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Speaker 3: I felt, well, the football club, I would say, tweet

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Speaker 3: Those stories you can go and google yourself. I won't

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Speaker 3: And so that was really really hard to deal with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's still a long way to go

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Speaker 3: The more cathartic side of it all has been able

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Speaker 3: once we figure out what it all looks like, because

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that, so you know, once it

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Speaker 3: So I'd like to do something in that realm, and

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Speaker 3: And the reason I know I haven't is that there

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Speaker 3: There was a period after all this where I had

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Speaker 3: a little bit less and less over time that I

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Speaker 3: can no longer do it, and I think one I'm

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Speaker 3: most excited for us to see the boys in between

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Speaker 3: twenty six course some upsets in the States. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: be more excited for the Al Whites and the boys

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Speaker 3: on the team that I know, and all the young

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Speaker 3: I'll be there supporting them for sure.

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Speaker 2: As well we all. Jake, I can't thank you enough

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Speaker 2: for being so open and honest about what you've been through.

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Speaker 2: I wish more than anything that you didn't have to

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Speaker 2: go through this and I could find you that time machine.

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Speaker 2: But now that you have and you're out the other

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Speaker 2: side and the US justice system has done its job,

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Speaker 2: I wish you only peace and fulfillment in the years ahead.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much again for joining us in such

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Speaker 2: an authentic way.

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Speaker 3: No, I appreciate I appreciate your reaching out, and it's

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Speaker 3: a story that I think needs to be heard. And

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Speaker 3: I'll say it again, if anybody needs any help or

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Speaker 4: I'll hopefully you'll have something a little bit more established

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Speaker 4: stairs we move forward.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, like I said, it's a story I needed

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Speaker 3: to tell to make sure that it didn't happen to

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Speaker 3: anyone else. So appreciate your time, mate, Appreciate your itching out,

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Speaker 3: and you'll see what the future holds. But I think

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Speaker 3: it's a little brighter than the last seven years, which.

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Speaker 2: Is hopeful, no doubt, no doubt. Thanks Jake. Jake Gleason,

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Speaker 2: their former All Whites and Portland Timbers goalkeeper with quite

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Speaker 2: the tail, Quite the story.

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