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Speaker 1: In Italy. Joe McKenna, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Make now these DDP numbers, I don't think you had

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Speaker 1: much growth coming anyway, so I thought, how many you

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Speaker 1: got any growth lift at all?

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I thought they were pretty disappointing when we

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Speaker 2: spoke about them last time. But now the European Commission

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Speaker 2: has cut Italy's GDP forecast in half, practically from zero

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Speaker 2: point seven percent down to zero point four percent. That

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Speaker 2: makes Italy the fourth weakest economy in the EU. I'd

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Speaker 2: forgotten that we're running behind Germany now and Austria and Finland.

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Speaker 1: Does that political? Does that? Do people go, Well, that's

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Speaker 1: Maloney's fault and that's the government's fault. Is it that

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Speaker 1: specific or not?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it might have an impact because she's

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Speaker 2: constantly saying that, you know, she's the one who is

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Speaker 2: here to revive the economy, and she's constantly talking about

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Speaker 2: a boom and all the good stuff she's doing. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure people really believe that. And we're going to

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Speaker 2: see the impact of the tariffs from Trump and the

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Speaker 2: international certainty I think having an impact as well.

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I've got a question for you about military

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Speaker 1: in the monment with a civilian military unit to combat

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Speaker 1: hybrid warfare? What is that? What do they mean?

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Speaker 2: Look, it sounds a bit vague to me, but the

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Speaker 2: Defense Minister Guido Corosseto has released a report talking about

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Speaker 2: these threats that we're seeing allegedly from Russians attacking infrastructure

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Speaker 2: across Europe, and he's talking about the need for a

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Speaker 2: civilian military unit that sounds like a tech unit of

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Speaker 2: some kind to monitor and try and get ahead of

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Speaker 2: some of these hybrid attacks.

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Speaker 1: Five thousand people's a lot of people. Where are they

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Speaker 1: getting them from?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly are they going to recruit new people? Are

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Speaker 2: they're going to recruit experts? Are they're going to recruit

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Speaker 2: them from already from existing military It's not very clear.

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Speaker 1: My military question, and you mentioned Germany it triggered me,

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Speaker 1: is that they're looking for the sort of military service

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Speaker 1: they're looking to boost their standing army by tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands over the next handful of years. Do you still

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Speaker 1: and Italy have that military service at eighteen that you've

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Speaker 1: got to go do some time?

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Speaker 2: No, in fact, it doesn't exist really anymore. It's voluntaries.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's going to be an issue for

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Speaker 2: the Italians going forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, influences, rules around influence. What's an influencer?

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Speaker 1: Do they define that? Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to affect me. Apparently you

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Speaker 2: have to have at least a million subscribers to qualify

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Speaker 2: for this new registry, and you have plenty of supporters

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Speaker 2: and some financial income coming from all your influence as well.

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Speaker 2: And I think the fines are quite hefty though. The

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Speaker 2: influencers have to register with the government. They risk fines

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Speaker 2: of six six hundred thousand euros if they violate this

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Speaker 2: new code of conduct. Trying to get more regulation on

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Speaker 2: those who are on the web and using their influence

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Speaker 2: to make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you register and then you, having registered, you

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Speaker 1: have to adhere to a set of rules. What are

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Speaker 1: the rules? I mean, is it like because I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of only fans, I mean, does that make you an

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Speaker 1: influencer you go down Matt track or is it just

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Speaker 1: selling stuff or what?

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Speaker 2: I think there's a pretty detailed I haven't seen all

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Speaker 2: the details, but it's say it's applying to people who

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Speaker 2: publish at least twenty four pieces of content. They have

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Speaker 2: an engagement rate of two percent or higher on at

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Speaker 2: least one social media platform. There's a lot of requirements

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Speaker 2: that are not quite clear to me, but it's certainly

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Speaker 2: designed to stop exploitation and false information.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Now I'm reading the other day sky Scanner, which

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Speaker 1: is an international market research company, and they did a

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Speaker 1: whole twenty two thousand people under the radar destinations and

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Speaker 1: up popped in number seven Albia in Italy and I've never.

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Speaker 2: Heard of it.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of Albia?

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Speaker 2: I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see that's I think it's so under the radar,

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Speaker 1: noe zeb you heard it? And if you're living in

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Speaker 1: Italy and you've never heard of Albia, apparently this is

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Speaker 1: the place that people want to go, so I know it.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, another another loc.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is Olbia and Italy. Can you do some

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Speaker 1: research on that workout whether it is a place worth

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Speaker 1: going to because Jaipour's up there, Bowdroum, Madeira. I've heard

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Speaker 1: of all of these veil Bill Bao, Michinoster or famous places,

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Speaker 1: but this albeit a place I've never heard of in

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Speaker 1: my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh Albia is it is coming to mind now. It's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful beach location in Gardinia, so that certainly requires

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Speaker 2: more research.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now get onto that for us, Joe and

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Speaker 1: I'll check back in next Thursday with you fantastic Okay,

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Speaker 1: that is Joe McKenna in Italy. For more from the

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