1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Do you remember the petition from locals to save the 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Shadow Tonguerero. We've got the government response now it's asked 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: the Department of Conservation to consider steps to do up 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the chateau, but it might still bowl. The thing watching 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: developments is Stuart Barclay, who's the owner of a drift 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: tigeted or guiding in with us. Now, Hi, Stuart, Yeah, 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: hither are you taking heart from this response from the government. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, it's any news with regard to not pulling 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: it down as good news. 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: So what exactly do you think has changed since the 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: What is the government saying and doing now that it 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: is different to what they were saying and doing before 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: the petition. 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: Well, I think the petition has had a big impact. 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand people. I think it is roughly that sign 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: the petition, and that is quite a significant statement. And 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: that's one thing. Also, the Shadow Tonguerero is a major 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: tourism icon in the area and very important for tourism, 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: and tourism at the moment is one of the positives 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: that New Zealanders has for its economy. They're a Payu 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: region is not doing very well and it thrives on tourism, 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: and it would be a great asset for this region 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: for employment to have something like that iconic building reinstated 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: and drawing people down here to have weddings and enjoy 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: the ski season and the summer hiking over the tong Garrero. 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Okay, now I agree with you on all of that, 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: but I reckon, I worry they're stringing you along. Is 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: that possible? 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: So you think they what I worry the. 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Government just stringing you along here? 31 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they might be. And you know, when we're 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: not in the in control of this, the government are 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: and they have got limited funds. You know, they are 34 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: busy really trying to make the balance sheet work. And 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: this is not an essential on one side of it, 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: but it is essential for tourism. And tourism is bringing 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: money in. So if they look at it in a 38 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: positive way and say, yeah, if we invest money in this, 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: we will get an amazing amount of tourism because of it, 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: and that will help employment. Employments that it's highest at 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 2: the moment unemployment and it's highest. So you know this 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: the shadow I think employs you know, almost one hundred 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: people when it's going forward, So there's a lot of 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: people in the local environment. 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: Hey, what do you reckon, Stuart? Do you reckon that 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: people will come and stay in the Shadow if it 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: just gets a little bit of a facelift, Like, is 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: that all it needs or does it need some other 49 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: jazzy little things to happen there as well? 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, but I'm no builder. 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: Occupancy before it was shut, Like, was it getting a 52 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: lot of people? 53 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: Oh? Huge, huge occupancy. Really, it was fantastic. It was 54 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: a conic kind of destination tourism venue. Weddings would be 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: held here and overseas. Tourists would come and book the 56 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: Shadow and stay one or two or three nights. So 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: it was absolutely iconic. 58 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: All it needs is like obviously the earthquake strengthening, but 59 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: then just to be tarted. 60 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: Up with it. Well, yeah, it needs to be obviously safe. 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 2: But the longer I think it's been dormant now for 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: about three years. The plumbing and the electrical work from 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: what I hear on the ground in the local area 64 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: is I think they had to employ a permanent electrician 65 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: and a plumber and that can't be getting any can't 66 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 2: be getting repaired. Was it's been dormant, So there are 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: ongoing issues. I think a lot of the rooms needed refurbishing. 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, but that is a bit of lipstick. But yes, 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: I just don't know what the cost is to make 70 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: it safe and that you know this horrendous figures being 71 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: chucked around by the earthquake people saying it has earth 72 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: quake proof. 73 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: All right, hey, listen Stewart, I really appreciated Stuart Barclay, 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the owner of a drift Tonguetdeddle guiding. I hope they're 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: not stringing the locals along. And I just wonder, I 76 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: just wonder if I'm having another look at those earthquake 77 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: strengthening rules which was happening last year, remember that was announced, 78 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: if that might actually bring the cost of strengthening the 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: thing down. 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 82 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.