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Speaker 2: this year for the OCR does it change your Christmas shopping?

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Speaker 2: Australia pasking welcome to the day. Seven past six. Reserve

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Speaker 2: bankcounting today one last hurrah for the year. It has

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Speaker 2: a certain night thing. It's got a certain anti climax

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Speaker 2: about it, doesn't It's probably twenty five points. Twenty five

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Speaker 2: there's a chance at zero and next to no one

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Speaker 2: says it's fifty. And for metrics, last week, by the way,

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Speaker 2: had the Q three GDP number at zero point nine percent,

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Speaker 2: a pretty decent year. What are you mad? How can

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Speaker 2: you say that? I hear you say, well, don't you

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Speaker 2: the messenger? These are rather facts or expert predictions. Either way,

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Speaker 2: they're on the right side of the equation. The point

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Speaker 2: being that's the sort of thing the Reserve Bank looks at.

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Speaker 2: Is inflation in its box? Well, it's a smage high

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Speaker 2: Quite possibly. Now, I'm not personally arguing for a hold,

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Speaker 2: be made for holding, for saying inflation is there or thereabouts,

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Speaker 2: and that the economy has got no shortage of green

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Speaker 2: shoots and twenty six looks okay, our job is done.

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Speaker 2: The psychological advantage, no matter what they do, is not

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Speaker 2: to be underestimated either. Is is this as good as

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Speaker 2: it gets? As low as they go, then a lot

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Speaker 2: and mortgages, and a lot of people have been holding.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they've been in the waiting place, and as

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Speaker 2: doctor SEUs said, the waiting place is no place for you.

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Speaker 2: In a funny way, it might also shake us out

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Speaker 2: of our funk. We're disproportionately miserable of reality. But because

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Speaker 2: it's been so bad and we need to kick up

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Speaker 2: the backside to get on with it. Maybe Christian Hawksby

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Speaker 2: in his farewell flourish off as not just the twenty

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Speaker 2: We could end twenty five at two point twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It started at four point twenty five. Shows you what

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Speaker 2: a mess we've dealt with. But I get the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a world of mixed messages this morning. Over

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Speaker 2: the so called peace plan, I mean, has Ukraine agreed

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Speaker 2: and if so, to what it seems it's the essence

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Speaker 2: of a plan. They want Zelenski in Trump together in

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Speaker 2: Washington next week to nothing doubt. The dem say, look,

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Speaker 2: this is Alaska two point zero.

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Speaker 3: This is just negotiating against ourselves, this negotiation in public.

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Speaker 3: We saw what happened in Alaska, it went nowhere in

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Speaker 3: Bold and Putin, so it doesn't seem like we're getting

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Speaker 2: In fact, the Europeing sort of been on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: They don't think we're there either.

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Speaker 4: The initial draft of the twenty eight point plan included

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Speaker 4: points that were not acceptable. Matters about Ukraine and its

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Speaker 4: future must be determined by Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: His might in Paris agree we.

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Speaker 5: Should size this momentum, not because there is reason for alarm.

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Speaker 5: Ukraine is solid, Russia is slow, and Europe is steadfast,

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Speaker 5: but because there is finally a chance to make real

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Speaker 2: Piece even the Tories are on Starmar side.

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Speaker 6: Is relentless bombardment of Kiev and KGB style negotiating tactics.

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Speaker 6: So he is not serious about peace, which is why

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Speaker 6: Russia must not be welcomed back into the international fold

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Speaker 2: Now this works to form a USA investador to Ukraine.

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Speaker 7: Even if Ukraine had accepted that, del Putin would have

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Speaker 7: likely come back for more before saying yes, because if

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Speaker 7: his aim is to subdue Ukraine, to reduce any independent

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Speaker 2: Ukraine other matters. PAM of Florida is in charge of

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Speaker 2: trying to get Comy and James back in court. Given

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Speaker 2: yesterday's humiliation, we'll.

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Speaker 8: Be taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal

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Speaker 8: to hold Letitia James and James Comy accountable for their

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Speaker 2: Finally, I'm going to keep going on there. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: you keep going, Pam finally got a tie. Woman. She

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Speaker 2: you know, for the family around the place anyway. You

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Speaker 2: know where it's going, don't you. Just before the service,

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Speaker 2: was treated at the hospital for hypo glarcemia. Don't confuse

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Speaker 2: those two things. Can't be a bit tricky. That is

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Speaker 2: news of the world. In the ninety tex has already

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Speaker 2: started the budget to night in the UK. It's one

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Speaker 2: of the most anticipated budgets. No, I don't use that

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Speaker 2: packaged milkshakes that's a thing, and lattes are now going

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Speaker 2: to be included in the sugar tacks for the first time.

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Speaker 2: So once upon a time, the sugar tax was about health.

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Speaker 2: Now it's just about pouring back the massive hole that

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Speaker 2: ms Reeves is dealing with. It's twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Evy, Mixed messages on the US economy this morning. Consumers

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Speaker 9: It's tween one days till Christmas, so it's time for

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Speaker 9: festive season, but I think quarter point cut is what

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Speaker 9: if there's no improvement, then they can go again, and they.

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Speaker 9: So we've got around forty percent of wotgage holders coming

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Speaker 9: So old old I reckon, we need a Goldilocks cut,

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Speaker 2: You know we'll be listening now. I gave the consumer

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Speaker 9: price is just looking inflation. It was up point three percent,

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Speaker 9: mostly driven by rising energy costs, so Mike, so you

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Speaker 9: markets are pricing in an eighty two percent probably of

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Speaker 9: Absolutely so move over and video with a new top

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Speaker 9: dog almost in town terms of AI. So yeah, Meta

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Speaker 2: We got this morning on the ag sector over red tape.

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Speaker 11: Thanks Mike, great to be back on the show.

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Speaker 2: So what has happened here? Are the new rules in

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Speaker 11: So basically, Mike, as you said, back in SABA, Ministry

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Speaker 2: Okay, regulatory performance has worsened for the Agricultural Compounds and

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Speaker 12: Look.

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Speaker 11: While it's encouraging, Mike, we're hearing promises about legislative change

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Speaker 11: And three it's that meaningful engagement with industry, including progressing

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Speaker 11: the Somnibus bill, Mike. Because the bottom line is our

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Speaker 11: And look, I can give you two examples in the

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Speaker 11: Wine and hot ships. So wine Australian US Canadian wine

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Speaker 11: growers have had a new insect aside for Melei bug.

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Speaker 11: Hot chips, Mike. Vegetable growers, they need new tools for potatoes, onions,

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Speaker 11: I mean, not even the humble hot ship is safe here.

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Speaker 11: Many of these solutions are already trusted. Any new so

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Speaker 2: maths education crickets. Well there isn't one. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: there is not an article to be seen with the

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Speaker 2: maths figures if you have not up on the story,

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Speaker 2: and you won't be if you rely on the digital

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Speaker 2: media in this country or even television because they didn't

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Speaker 2: cover the story. But if you are not up on that,

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to it later. But we found three

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Speaker 2: articles on bush ships coup, which isn't even a thing.

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Speaker 2: In an opinion piece about the Regional Council speaking of

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Speaker 2: the Regional Council, Christalship with a shortly six forty.

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Speaker 14: Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, the peace

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Speaker 14: of mind for New Zealand business?

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Speaker 2: Where did im a good morning for you?

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 2: We got a dealer who's agreed to what we are

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Speaker 2: Why win.

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Speaker 15: And have Well, let me start with the military side.

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Speaker 15: Can you call it a peace process? When Putin has

451
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Speaker 15: just blitzed the Ukrainian capital of Kiev with more than

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Speaker 15: five hundred missiles and drones through the night in a

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Speaker 15: barrow that went on for more than six hours. That

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Speaker 15: certainly caught people's attention. There two residential towers have been

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Speaker 15: hits along with power stations. At least seven people have

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Speaker 15: been killed and the damage to buildings and systems extensive.

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Speaker 15: Seven of Kiev's main districts now are having power disruptions,

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Speaker 15: so it is brutal. What is happening On the diplomatic

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Speaker 15: side is that the US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll, who

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Speaker 15: was part of the talks earlier this week in Geneva

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Speaker 15: with the Europeans and Ukrainians now has gone off to

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Speaker 15: Abadhabi and the UAE, the head of Ukrainian intel also

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Speaker 15: is there, and there was a chance they say that

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Speaker 15: they could meet with Russian officials as well, and that

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Speaker 15: Lensky might turn up in Washington soon. So how is

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Speaker 15: this to be assessed? Have the Russian shifted in any aspect.

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Speaker 15: Here's what their foreign minister Laverov is saying.

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Speaker 16: We have channels of communication with our American colleagues and

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Speaker 16: they are being used, and we are awaiting their version,

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Speaker 16: which they consider an interim version in terms of completing

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Speaker 16: the phase of coordinating this text with the Europeans and Ukrainians.

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Speaker 16: Then we will see, because if the spirit and letter

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Speaker 16: of anchorage are lost in the key understandings we have documented,

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Speaker 16: then of course the situation will be fundamentally different.

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Speaker 15: Well, the so called spirit of anchorage is that Putin

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Speaker 15: wasn't giving an inch, and it appears that several of

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Speaker 15: the key issues still have been set aside, including the

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Speaker 15: new territorial boundaries, assignment, ongoing Ukrainian military and the most

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Speaker 15: ban on NATO troops inside Ukraine. So that's a number

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Speaker 15: of it, really, isn't it. Meantime, Marco Rubio, the uscutive

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Speaker 15: state has been pretty active. Trump deadline of Ukrainian deal

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Speaker 15: by this Friday or else has been set. Aside, the

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Speaker 15: initial negotiating program of twenty eight points, mostly laid out

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Speaker 15: by Russia, has been trimmed back to nineteen points. What

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Speaker 15: they are, they're not spelling out. While Ukraine is trying

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Speaker 15: to keep in favor with Trump by saying they are

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Speaker 15: ready to deal with Ukraine, Zelensky.

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Speaker 5: Says as well, put in once legal recognition for what

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Speaker 5: he has solid.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, not clear that has changed.

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Speaker 2: Right, And then we come to the Pentagon, who are

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Speaker 2: it's a formal reviewer I think is the official term

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Speaker 2: into Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, well we'll see. It is ongoing the Trump revenge

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Speaker 15: campaign against his political foes. The latest target, yes, is

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Speaker 15: the military hero, former astronaut now Senator Mark Kelly. He

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Speaker 15: is responding to Trump assertions that he should be executed

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Speaker 15: for saying in a video that US troops should refuse

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Speaker 15: illegal orders. Well, the White House begets that word illegal

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Speaker 15: when they're responding. But that is simply the law. Why

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Speaker 15: the Senator thought it was a brilliant idea to put

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Speaker 15: it in a video as a bornous speculation, But the

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Speaker 15: Pedagon now is investigating Kelly for possible military breaches. Senator Kelly,

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Speaker 15: saying this is just intimidation.

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Speaker 17: Said something that was pretty simple and non controversial, and

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Speaker 17: that was that members of the military should follow the law.

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Speaker 17: And in response to that, Donald Trump said I should

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Speaker 17: be executed, I should be hanged.

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Speaker 15: All it seems to be just diversions, as Killie says.

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Speaker 17: Also, I've had a missile blow up next to my airplane.

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Speaker 17: I've been shot down, nearly shot down multiple times. I've

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Speaker 17: flown a rocket ship into space four times, built by

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Speaker 17: the lowest bidder. And my wife, Gabby Gifford's meeting with

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Speaker 17: their constituents shot in the head, six people killed around her,

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Speaker 17: a horrific thing. She spent six months in the hospital.

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Speaker 17: We know what political violence is and we know what

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Speaker 17: causes it too. You know, the statements that Donald Trump

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Speaker 17: made is insightful, incites others. He's got millions of supporters.

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Speaker 17: People listen to what he says more so than anybody

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Speaker 17: else in the country, and he should be careful with

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Speaker 17: his worst.

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Speaker 2: So down good luck with that, might see in a

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Speaker 2: couple of days. Appreciated housing market in America is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Fifteen percent of the homes that would be listed in

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Speaker 2: September we're at risk of selling for a loss. Seventy

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Speaker 2: percent of the homes listed in September we're on the

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Speaker 2: market for sixty days or longer. So the housing market's

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Speaker 2: a bit weak at the moment. Got eighty five thousand

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Speaker 2: overall taking their house off the market. Now that's the

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Speaker 2: biggest number in some eight years. Then you've got petrol.

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Speaker 2: As we head into Thanksgiving, Trump's busy saying that petrol's

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Speaker 2: cheaper than it was last year. It's now no longer true.

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Speaker 2: It was true, but now it's not. For a while

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Speaker 2: there at its best moment, it was thirty forty even

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Speaker 2: fifty cents depending on where you go in America. Of course,

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Speaker 2: thirty forty even fifty cents a gallon cheaper, but it's

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Speaker 2: just a smidge on average National averages a smidge over

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Speaker 2: three bucks as we speak this morning, which is exactly

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Speaker 2: what it was last year. And just quickly on AI

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Speaker 2: watched this space. There's a super pac been launched, ten

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Speaker 2: million dollar campaign. They've set aside tens of millions, but

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Speaker 2: this is the opening Selvo million dollar campaign to push

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Speaker 2: Congress to craft a national AI strategy. What they're freaking

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Speaker 2: out about. These states are going to do their own

545
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Speaker 2: strategies and their own rules and regulations, and AI being

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Speaker 2: a global things, not as an American thing, but a

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Speaker 2: global thing. So the arm twisting has already begun.

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Speaker 1: Ten to seven The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita

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Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News togs head be.

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Speaker 2: Mike, what brand of snow cannon are you're running, Kurt,

551
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Speaker 2: I'm running Ammguire's not that that matters. Just buy a

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Speaker 2: good snow cannon. That's a good Christmas gift. You've got

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Speaker 2: somebody in your life with cars, get them a good

554
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Speaker 2: snow cannon. Get them some sauce. They'll have a summr's

555
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Speaker 2: worth of fun. Mike after the winner over the Bucks

556
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Speaker 2: and the Rams QB. Matthew Stafford's now favorite with the

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Speaker 2: MVP for the first time in a seventeen year career,

558
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Speaker 2: which is good. Rams are on fire. As I keep saying,

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Speaker 2: Rams going all the way again to the super bowl.

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Speaker 2: They may well win the whole thing six away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the fizz with business

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Speaker 1: favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Well thet the way Matthew Stafford throws the ball, He's

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Speaker 2: got incredible arm. He does it with such ease and grace.

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Speaker 2: Extraordinary to watch property market. You want a bet a

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Speaker 2: resale game. We got the infamous, the famous, the Cotality

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Speaker 2: Pain and Gain Report. What do we got? Eighty seven

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Speaker 2: point eight percent of properties sold for more than the

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Speaker 2: original purchase crisis is for Q three, which is down

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Speaker 2: from eighty nine point four, so it's barely moves, hardly

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Speaker 2: a big deal. Our average sale gain in Q three

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Speaker 2: was two hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That average is

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Speaker 2: a five year low. But then five years ago we

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Speaker 2: had COVID, for God's sake, and we've just come off

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Speaker 2: a booming market. So comparing the two is pointless. Average

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Speaker 2: hold period, in other words, how long do you own

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Speaker 2: your home? It's up at nine and a half years,

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Speaker 2: which is interesting because that's materially higher. Hasn't been that

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Speaker 2: high since the nineties, so it makes the annual return

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Speaker 2: an average of twenty eight thousan four hundred dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: Is that good houses outperform apartments no change. There are

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Speaker 2: eleven point eight percent of home sold for a loss,

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Speaker 2: while thirty six percent of apartments sold for a loss.

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Speaker 2: Auckland and Wellington worst performers. Nineteen percent of sales in

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Speaker 2: Auckland for a loss, but that's because of a lot

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Speaker 2: of apartments in Auckland sixteen percent of sales and Wellington

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Speaker 2: for a loss. It's because no one wants to live

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Speaker 2: in Wellington. Oh King Wellington where am I main centers

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Speaker 2: tower on the highest average of three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: two thousand dollars. Auckland gains, what are the gains in

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Speaker 2: Auland three hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars, it's not bad,

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Speaker 2: Wellington three hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Christ Church only

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Speaker 2: five point five percent of resales that are a loss.

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Speaker 2: But you got two sixty five. Mind you bought lower

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Speaker 2: as well, didn't you? You buy low? So you know

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Speaker 2: to sixty five you'll take that all day long. Outside

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Speaker 2: the main centers, Queenstown continues to boom. It's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Average gain is four hundred and eighty six thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: and only two point four percent of home sold for

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Speaker 2: a loss. Fung Array higher share of losses in the

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Speaker 2: North Island at twelve percent and Nelson worst performer in

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Speaker 2: the South Island at fourteen percent of homes sold for

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Speaker 2: a loss, which is up from eight percent m Q two.

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't having had a look at the numbers

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Speaker 2: at the banks, you know, the bad lending, the bad money,

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Speaker 2: the problems. I don't think these are stressed sales per se.

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Speaker 2: I think that what you'll probably find is that someone goes,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I might take ahead of fifteen thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: but I'm staying in the market. I'm going to buy

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Speaker 2: a house for less than I would have bought it

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Speaker 2: for previously. As well. I think there's probably something in that,

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Speaker 2: because the stress numbers out of the banks just aren't

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Speaker 2: aren't high at all at the moment. No one seems

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Speaker 2: particularly bothered about that, right Chris Bishop A big call.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's theoretically a big call. It's several

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Speaker 2: years off. Does labor stick with it? Does anyone actually care?

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Speaker 2: Given no one voted in the local body elections, does

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Speaker 2: anyone care regional councils had gone up more shortly.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show, you confess it's the Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the Defender. Embrace the impossible news, Tom

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Speaker 1: sted b.

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Speaker 2: Lly welcome, seven past seven. The wrecking balls coming to

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Speaker 2: a council and their your regional councils are going there

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Speaker 2: to be replaced by the Combined Territories Board. Ctb's mayors

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Speaker 2: will run them. These boards will produce a regional organization plan.

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Speaker 2: Are Chris Bishop's in charge of it all? Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning. The detail at council level of what you

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Speaker 2: announced yesterday, how much were they aware of previously?

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Speaker 18: They are aware that we were looking at structural reform

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Speaker 18: and looking at changes in light of resource management. I

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Speaker 18: mean it was a big call for us because resource

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Speaker 18: management is massive, right, It's going to strip out layers

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Speaker 18: and layers of duplication, standardized processes, and strip costs out

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Speaker 18: of the system. So we sort of had a decision

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Speaker 18: to make do we just kind of do that and

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Speaker 18: go job done, or do we go actually, you know what,

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Speaker 18: if we're going to do all this stuff anyway, do

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Speaker 18: we actually do the full Monty and say, you know what,

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Speaker 18: let's deal with local government at the same time and

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Speaker 18: in the end, you know, go big or go home, right,

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Speaker 18: So that we decided to do.

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Speaker 2: The whole lot. Okay, so interesting area because no one cares,

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Speaker 2: do they. I mean we saw in the election, no

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Speaker 2: one turns up to vote, no one gives the monkeys,

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Speaker 2: and yet the reform is massive. So how do you

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Speaker 2: explain that?

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Speaker 18: Well, I think no one cares, partly because they can't

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Speaker 18: understand it. Right, So you vote for your regional counselor

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Speaker 18: then they elect a chair. I mean, how many people

650
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Speaker 18: out there listening could actually name their regional council chair

651
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Speaker 18: who don't live in Auckland. I don't think anyone. Not

652
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Speaker 18: that many people the evil name a regional counselor. And

653
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Speaker 18: then of course you've got all the confusion.

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Speaker 19: Right.

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Speaker 18: So in Wellington where I'm from, for example, the regional

656
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Speaker 18: council runs the buses, but the Wellington City Council basically

657
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Speaker 18: works out where you can actually put a bus stop,

658
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Speaker 18: for example, and they do all the road.

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Speaker 2: Closures and things like that.

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Speaker 18: So there's enormous levels of complexity and complication that people

661
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Speaker 18: just don't understand. And people say, well, why am I

662
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Speaker 18: voting for all these people don't understand who most of

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Speaker 18: them are. I don't know who they are, and so

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Speaker 18: there's enormous duplication in the system. So I think that

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Speaker 18: partly explains why voter turn at rates are so low.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what about the regionality in Auckland will have

667
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Speaker 2: dealt with us, I guess more than the rest of

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Speaker 2: the country. Once you get a big area, there are

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Speaker 2: specific stories within the area that may not get dealt

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Speaker 2: to because you're suddenly in a big area. Is that

671
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Speaker 2: fair or not?

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Speaker 18: I think there's a legitimate argument for that, and Auckland

673
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Speaker 18: solves that problem or attempted to solve it through the

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Speaker 18: local boards and that kind of representation at a local

675
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Speaker 18: level relevant to people's interests. So local parks and things

676
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Speaker 18: like that. It's important, you know that there is It

677
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Speaker 18: is important that people have an outlet the things they're

678
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Speaker 18: frustrated about, you know, at a very local level. You know,

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Speaker 18: things that are things can be dealt with at a

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Speaker 18: at a minor way, so to speak, but you know

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Speaker 18: those big issues around you know, how are we managing

682
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Speaker 18: the catchments and the rivers in a particular area, How

683
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Speaker 18: we doing public transport, those big issues around land use

684
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Speaker 18: planning and resource management's going to introduce spatial planning so

685
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Speaker 18: we can look out over the next thirty fifty years

686
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Speaker 18: and look at our corridors that we want to protect

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Speaker 18: for future road and rail and the areas we don't

688
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Speaker 18: want to build on, for example, those kind of big things.

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Speaker 18: It doesn't make sense to have two different types of

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Speaker 18: local government structures doing that stuff, and so we're giving

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Speaker 18: regions in areas an opportunity to have a good look

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Speaker 18: at that.

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Speaker 2: Do you potentially run into the same problem you've run

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Speaker 2: into some places with water. So you're asking these people

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Speaker 2: to come up with a plan within a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: What are their plans? No good, you're going to STYMI in.

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Speaker 18: Well, we're going to set the tram lines for the plant.

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Speaker 18: So it has to be and affordable, it has to

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Speaker 18: have a relevant degree of local control. It has to

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Speaker 18: enable better services and more affordable services for rate payers.

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Speaker 18: So we're going to set the criteria and we'll be

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Speaker 18: the ones doing the assessing of what regions come up

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Speaker 18: with it.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you just tell them and save us all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 18: Well, we looked at that, to be honest, that's a

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Speaker 18: really good argument. We did have a look at that.

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Speaker 18: The issue with that is then you are into extremely

709
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Speaker 18: top down here is what is going to happen. You

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Speaker 18: don't get a say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's wrong with that? I mean half the people

712
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Speaker 2: there's half the people there are dumpty doo. So I

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Speaker 2: mean they don't have a clue what's going on, and

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Speaker 2: that's why we're in the state we're in.

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Speaker 18: Well, there's a legitimate argument for that, and we decided

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Speaker 18: that a bit like the Three Waters. We'll say to people, listen,

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Speaker 18: you come up with the model. You've got clear criteria

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Speaker 18: to meet, and if you don't do it, we'll do

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Speaker 18: it for you. But at least in the interim you

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Speaker 18: can come up with it and we'll give you a

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Speaker 18: orn a.

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Speaker 2: Does it stick post your government? Do you think?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 18: Lo, that's over to the Labor Party obviously, But I

725
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Speaker 18: would say publicly, there's not that many defenders of the

726
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Speaker 18: status quo, right. I mean, it's a bit like nineteen

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Speaker 18: eighty nine. I mean, last time we did local government

728
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Speaker 18: reformers eighty nine and people as a massive hue and cry.

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Speaker 18: People went bananas about it for quite a long time,

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Speaker 18: and then you know, have we ever repealed them and

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Speaker 18: gone backwards?

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Speaker 19: No?

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Speaker 18: So I just think most New Zealanders listening, most fair

734
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Speaker 18: minded people, know we don't have the scale required to

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Speaker 18: really get things done locally. They know there's too much duplication.

736
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Speaker 18: They know that local government's lost its social license. So

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Speaker 18: I think we've just got to get on with it, frankly,

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Speaker 18: and I'm looking forward to having a bit about.

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Speaker 2: It, all right, appreciate it. Chris Bushop By the way,

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Speaker 2: if you missed the Deloitte report yesterday on Wellington City Council,

741
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Speaker 2: just to remind you just how hopeless this whole thing is.

742
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Speaker 2: They found they've just got the extra three hundred and

743
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Speaker 2: thirty people they don't need and they could save seventy

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Speaker 2: nine million bucks. Twelve past seven Scott Final OCD for

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Speaker 2: the year and what a year of OCRs. It's been

746
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Speaker 2: a twenty five points baked in. We think the big

747
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Speaker 2: quest is there more where that came from? Or will

748
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Speaker 2: Christian on his way out to new pastures suggest that

749
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Speaker 2: this is that? Jared Kerres Kibibanks chief economist of course,

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Speaker 2: and his back with this Jared Morning morning, You've got

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Speaker 2: twenty five with more or twenty five, and thanks for coming.

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Speaker 13: Twenty five, and let's see if that's enough. I think

753
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Speaker 13: we're getting pretty close to the bottom. I think that's

754
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Speaker 13: the main message. Interest rate through its stimatory levels, and

755
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Speaker 13: we're looking to see if that's going to entice some investment.

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Speaker 2: How nervous of the three percent inflation.

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Speaker 13: A, I'm not not at all. I think we can

758
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Speaker 13: look through some of the short term spikes. We actually

759
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Speaker 13: have inflation falling below two percent to about one point

760
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Speaker 13: eight percent next year, So there's a lot of deflationary

761
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Speaker 13: pressure coming through, particularly from a late really weak labor market.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if you're right at one point eight, and

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Speaker 2: let's credit you right here and right now, you've been

764
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Speaker 2: right all along with this, So congratulations on that at

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Speaker 2: one point eight. If you're right and things aren't firing up,

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Speaker 2: are we back into the business of talking about increases

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Speaker 2: in the cash rate.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think if we're struggling to see inflation, then

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Speaker 13: they'll keep inter TRAC's loads longer. I think the risk

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Speaker 13: is that if things, you know, sort of bounce back

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Speaker 13: a little quicker, and wouldn't that be nice? And if

772
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Speaker 13: we start talking about rate hikes in the second half

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Speaker 13: of next year. Then that means job's done and their

774
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Speaker 13: economy is performing well.

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Speaker 2: What weight do you place on if Christian? If you're

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Speaker 2: right and Christian goes today, we're done, Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: I've got a new job, in a new life. Twenty five?

778
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Speaker 2: Is that buy bye? How many people in this country go? Right?

779
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Speaker 2: That's as good as it gets. I'm now going to move.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to.

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Speaker 11: Act hopefully a few.

782
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Speaker 13: Hopefully a few, Mike. I mean a lot of people

783
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Speaker 13: are rolling off their mortgages. Now we've got a large

784
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Speaker 13: chunk of our mortgage book rolling on too much lower rates.

785
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Speaker 13: That's certainly helping household budgets and I'm just hoping it

786
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Speaker 13: entices people to, yeah, get back out into the market,

787
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Speaker 13: get acted again, and more importantly, we need businesses investing.

788
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Speaker 2: The Auckland shift of lake. Do you see that as

789
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Speaker 2: being real some of the numbers in the vibe we're

790
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Speaker 2: hearing in Auckland the engine room of the economy.

791
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I do. We are seeing some green shoots and

792
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Speaker 13: pockets of the economy, which is nice. But we saw

793
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Speaker 13: these sorts of green shoots this time last year and

794
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 13: they withered away. So you know, green shoots is one

795
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Speaker 13: thing activity is another. We really need to see activities

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Speaker 13: lifting into next year before I gained confidence.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Jared, nice to catch up. Appreciate it

798
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Speaker 2: very much, Jared Kurt the Kiwibank Chief Economists, Christian hawksbick

799
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Speaker 2: what will be one of his final interviews before he

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Speaker 2: goes off and to do whatever Christian Hawksby is going

801
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Speaker 2: to do in the rest of his life will be

802
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Speaker 2: on the program roughly this time tomorrow, seven fifteen, The Like.

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Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 2: So here's the story, and then the story is the scandal.

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Speaker 2: As I became increasingly frustrated with the performance of the

807
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Speaker 2: New Zealand media or lack of yesterday, so I'm watching

808
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Speaker 2: this live stream Prime Minister and the Education Minister. They're

809
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Speaker 2: at a school. They're announcing the results of the nationwide

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Speaker 2: maths acceleration trial. If you listened to z B yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: you would have heard this because we had it. If

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Speaker 2: you listened to radio in New Zealand, you wouldn't have

813
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Speaker 2: heard it. If you listen to stuff, you wouldn't have

814
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Speaker 2: heard it. If you listened to the Herald or read

815
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Speaker 2: the Herald, you wouldn't have heard it. If you're watching

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Speaker 2: the six o'clock news at TV and Z last night,

817
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't have heard it. So the results are there's

818
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Speaker 2: a twofold result. So it's the nationwide maths Acceleration trial.

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Speaker 2: This is year seven, seven and eight's fifteen hundred of

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Speaker 2: them who were more than the year behind in maths

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Speaker 2: the intensive model, the in person model. They gained over

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Speaker 2: a twelve week period. Two years. They advanced up to

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Speaker 2: two years in the twelve week period. The really important part,

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Speaker 2: and so you know Union's garb, Well, of course they well,

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Speaker 2: you have put the experts in with them, what do

826
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Speaker 2: you expect The really impressive part. That's impressive enough. The

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Speaker 2: really impressive part is simply by doing the new curriculum,

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Speaker 2: i EU do an hour of maths a day, which

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Speaker 2: is the government policy. You do an hour of maths today.

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Speaker 2: They gained a year in twelve weeks. One year in

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Speaker 2: twelve weeks, by any measure, is remarkable. And not only

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Speaker 2: is it remarkable, it is also a news story. Now

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Speaker 2: tell me why there were journalists standing there listening to

834
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Speaker 2: the Ministry of Education, the Prime Minister of this country

835
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Speaker 2: announced those results. And yet they went back to their

836
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Speaker 2: newsrooms and not a story was written, no coverage was given.

837
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Speaker 2: If you look briefly on the TV three news once

838
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Speaker 2: they waded through yet more boredom around moaning about teterity

839
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Speaker 2: because a song was sung to Erica and that was

840
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Speaker 2: a song of protest, apparently, so they needed to tell

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Speaker 2: you about that. But once they did that, they very

842
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Speaker 2: briefly mentioned the result. Apart from that, you heard from

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Speaker 2: no one, not on TV one, not in the Herald,

844
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Speaker 2: not on Radio New zealand, not on stuff. Why not?

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Speaker 2: Why not? You cannot tell me that isn't a story.

846
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Speaker 2: You cannot tell me that kids over a twelve week period,

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Speaker 2: who advanced one year in one of the most difficult

848
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Speaker 2: areas of education, an area that we've complained about, worried about,

849
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Speaker 2: moaned about for years, when they get actual, tangible, real results.

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Speaker 2: You cannot tell me that isn't news. And yet, acording

851
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Speaker 2: to most of the media in this country, it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Now that's not overt bias. I don't know what is

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Speaker 2: seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: every day at chemist ware Us. Asking about seventy twenty four,

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Speaker 2: what do Rachel Reeves and New Zealand Treasury have in common?

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Speaker 2: They love tax. They are myopic in their view of economies.

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Speaker 2: Economies always need more money, and tax, according to them,

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Speaker 2: is the only way to do it. Rachel reeves tonight

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Speaker 2: has perhaps the most anticipated budget of a generation. When

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Speaker 2: I say anticipated, I don't mean in terms of willingness

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Speaker 2: or excitement. People are dreading what she's going to do.

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Speaker 2: It has been a long long time since we have

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Speaker 2: seen the level of fiscal panic that we've seen under

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Speaker 2: the British Labor Party. They were not going to tax

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Speaker 2: more until they were but that was a broken promise,

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Speaker 2: so then they weren't. They've got a hold though. It's

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Speaker 2: about thirty billion just for the year. That's seventy billion

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Speaker 2: of our miserable South Pacific pesos. She has to make

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Speaker 2: some sort of attempt at closing a tax is her

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Speaker 2: preferred means of collection. Meantime, back here, Treasury writes another

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Speaker 2: of their doom laden messages to government, muttering about when

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Speaker 2: not if taxes have to rite. There's all good news

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand Labor. Excuse me, they love tax They

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Speaker 2: got the CGT already lined upset to go. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be surprised if there was more where that came from.

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Speaker 2: Do remember the CGT was but a part of their

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Speaker 2: wider economic plan to be released at a later date.

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Speaker 2: At some point we're going to have to work out

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Speaker 2: more tax. Greater tax is no way to run anything,

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Speaker 2: for the simple reason we aren't well paid and too

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Speaker 2: many people are on what most of the world considers

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Speaker 2: average incomes, paying ludicrous percentages of what they earn. Already

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Speaker 2: the top tax rate if he didn't notice, thirty nine

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Speaker 2: cents in this country, thirty nine at GST, at fifteen,

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Speaker 2: you're at fifty four at acc road user or the

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Speaker 2: other tax bollocks. Some are close at sixty cents in

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Speaker 2: the dollar, and Rachel and the Chrisses and the treasuries

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Speaker 2: that want even more. How about government where the central

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Speaker 2: law local look at doing less or doing more with less,

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Speaker 2: or simplifying or not just cost plus accounting everything. If

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Speaker 2: you know you have an unlimited source of income or overdraft,

911
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: there is no end to the damage you can do

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Speaker 2: through fiscal laziness. New Zealand Inc. And the UK Inc.

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Speaker 2: Are modern day examples, Mike, people have been rolling off

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Speaker 2: high interest mortgage rates for a few months over the

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Speaker 2: last two years. It's just a tagline. Now, Dan, I

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Speaker 2: take your point, but you're wrong. What you've got to

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Speaker 2: understand is people are continually rolling off higher mortgages. So

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Speaker 2: what happens. A lot of people are sitting around on

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Speaker 2: short term thinking, all Christian's going to move again and

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Speaker 2: again and again. So you do a little bit of floating,

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Speaker 2: you get a cart, you go right, I'll lock up

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Speaker 2: for six months or lock up for a year. A

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Speaker 2: lot of money on six months and one year, so

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Speaker 2: six months later people are rolling off. So the rolling

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Speaker 2: off process is a continual process. You don't just roll

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Speaker 2: off once and every time you do roll off. At

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Speaker 2: the moment, you are because the reserve bank keep moving,

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Speaker 2: you are rolling off into a lower rate and the

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Speaker 2: short money. What was it seventy five I think seventy

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Speaker 2: five percent of mortgages at the moment are due to

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Speaker 2: roll in the next few months because everyone's on the

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Speaker 2: short money, because they're thinking to themselves, well, I'll wait

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Speaker 2: until Wednesday and then I'll be able to get cheaper money.

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Speaker 2: And of course, if you're looking around at the banks

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Speaker 2: at the moment, some of them are giving you one

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Speaker 2: point five percent of what you're borrowing by way of

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Speaker 2: a cash backers. Talking to one of the guys here yesterday,

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Speaker 2: he paid off all his bills. Did everything change, banks,

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Speaker 2: change mortgages, and even after paying off all the bills

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Speaker 2: and all the paperwork and all the lawyers and everything,

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Speaker 2: he still ended up five thousand dollars better off simply

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Speaker 2: by walking across the road. So there's a lot going

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Speaker 2: on at the moment, and people are continually rolling off mortgages.

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Speaker 2: Now Estonia education Maths, we're doing well. They're doing well.

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Speaker 2: The education minister's here, we talked to her. Next.

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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three.

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Speaker 2: News togs had been Journey Politics Wednesday after a twenty

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Speaker 2: three to eight I shouldn't have been surprised, but one

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Speaker 2: of the most profound education announcements, as I mentioned earlier

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Speaker 2: on in the program, in a very long time, came

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Speaker 2: yesterday afternoon. It was largely ignored by the media as

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Speaker 2: part of the Governm's maths overhaul, and our A day

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Speaker 2: of Maths has on average delivered a full year's progress

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Speaker 2: in just twelve weeks. Now the specific trial group actually

957
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Speaker 2: got towards two years advanced. And anyway, the new curriculum

958
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Speaker 2: draws heavily from Estonia. They currently sit seventh on these

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Speaker 2: Peace of Education rankings. They are the top in Europe.

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Speaker 2: And Christina Kellis is the Estonian education minister who is

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Speaker 2: in the country and is with us. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning now as far as you're concerned versus what

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Speaker 2: we have done, are we doing better than you or

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Speaker 2: you are still doing better than us?

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Speaker 20: When it comes to me, well, comparing the piece are results,

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Speaker 20: which is an international comparison of education systems globally. Estonia

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Speaker 20: is doing really great. New Zealand has had drops in

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Speaker 20: mathematic results, especially not so much in reading but in mathematics.

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Speaker 20: So we do learn from each other. I think that's

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Speaker 20: the most important part in the politics in general, is

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Speaker 20: also not only learned from the good results, but also

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Speaker 20: actually from the things that other countries have done and

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Speaker 20: which maybe have been a mistake, or learning from other

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Speaker 20: mistakes I think is also a to do. So I'm

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Speaker 20: here in New Zealand not to look, of course at

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Speaker 20: the New Zealand mistakes, but to look at the reforms

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Speaker 20: that are currently be done in education and to see

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Speaker 20: whether those reforms are actually going towards the direction that

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Speaker 20: I have to admit that many European countries are pondering

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Speaker 20: and wondering the same thing right now, because there is

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Speaker 20: a significant drop in performance and students, especially in mathematics,

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Speaker 20: but also in functional reading in many many European countries.

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Speaker 20: We also had a drop because of the pandemic, but

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Speaker 20: not that significant. But there's a big debate in Europe,

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Speaker 20: including in Estonia, about what do we need to change

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Speaker 20: in education system to bring the performance up again. And

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Speaker 20: the Estonian case, yeah, we have a very high results

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Speaker 20: right now. We have this kind of a knowledge rich

989
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Speaker 20: focused on learning, memorizing, repeating, applying, but also we need

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Speaker 20: in Estonia a lot to go to the other levels

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Speaker 20: of knowledge, which is and skills, which is more about

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Speaker 20: critical thinking. And I think New Zealand here has done

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Speaker 20: that prior. So I'm here to look at the New

994
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Speaker 20: Zealand reforms but also about the things that have been

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Speaker 20: gooded past and where New Zealand has been doing very

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Speaker 20: well in education system.

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Speaker 2: What's your observation of our reform so far.

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Speaker 20: I think that this is the right direction because in

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Speaker 20: order to actually develop critical thinking, analytical thinking, systematic thinking,

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Speaker 20: for example, ethical thinking, all those what we call twenty

1001
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Speaker 20: first century skills. In order to develop those you actually

1002
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Speaker 20: need to get basic skills there first, and basic skills

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Speaker 20: are very fundamental functional reading skills, mathematical logical thinking skills,

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Speaker 20: and math skills. Like on a knowledge level, you need

1005
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Speaker 20: to understand a lot of geographical and biology and science

1006
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Speaker 20: subjects in order to actually develop any kind of what

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Speaker 20: we call higher order thinking skills. So if we don't

1008
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Speaker 20: get the basic skills straight, so the young kids before

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Speaker 20: the age of fifteen, then all other more complicated skill

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Speaker 20: developments are not going to be there. And that's what,

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Speaker 20: for example, in Europe we're really worried about because according

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Speaker 20: to the piece of results, thirty percent of European students

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Speaker 20: fail on basic skills in mathematics thirty percent, that's almost

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Speaker 20: every third, every fourth student, and we need to do

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Speaker 20: the changing curriculum for that as well.

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Speaker 2: The one hour. It struck me in watching it yesterday

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Speaker 2: when they made the announcement that one hour a day

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Speaker 2: of maths, which is our policy now, one hour myths

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Speaker 2: to be able to gain a year in twelve weeks

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Speaker 2: is a remarkable thing. Do you see it as remarkable?

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Speaker 20: Well, we have five hours maths per week, so one

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Speaker 20: hour per day. We have six seven hours of language

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Speaker 20: Estonian language reading per week. So we have a very intensive,

1024
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Speaker 20: quite ambitious curriculum. We have always had it. So students

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Speaker 20: do a lot of math, a lot of reading, a

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Speaker 20: lot of science every day and every week at school

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Speaker 20: and we do see that you know, that performs and

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Speaker 20: they perform as a result of this. So I think

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Speaker 20: that what New Zealand where it's going doing one hour

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Speaker 20: math per day or one hour reading per day, vocabulary

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Speaker 20: and phonetics and grammar and text production and telling storytelling,

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Speaker 20: this is the right thing to do because that's how

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Speaker 20: the kids developmentally developed, That's how they acquire knowledge, and

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Speaker 20: based on knowledge they acquire skills and then then they

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Speaker 20: go much higher order skills as they proceed in education systems.

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Speaker 20: So to us, what New Zealand currently is doing in

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Speaker 20: curriculum is something that we have always had in education system.

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00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 20: We have always done that. A lot of math, a

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Speaker 20: lot of math at school.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Christina, that itsten nice to talk with you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your time very much. Christina kell us and

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Speaker 2: enjoys doying in the country education. It's only an education minister.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like it's the weirdest thing to me

1044
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Speaker 2: and the way she explained that, So they're successful. They're

1045
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Speaker 2: indisputably successful. We now clearly are on the right track,

1046
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Speaker 2: and yet we're talking about something. There's no rocket science here.

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Speaker 2: There was no revelation there was there. We just do

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Speaker 2: an hour of maths to day. We do an hour

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Speaker 2: of reading a day, as though that somehow we woke

1050
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: up one morning and went, now, what were we doing

1051
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Speaker 2: at school previous to this? It's just unbelievable. I believe

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Speaker 2: I have to apologize the TV one because number of

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Speaker 2: you let me know that they by six thirty six,

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Speaker 2: and this is my fault. By six thirty six, they did,

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Speaker 2: in fact, for forty seconds briefly mention this story yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So then we get into the slightly separate argument is

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Speaker 2: what I heard yesterday from the education minister was a

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Speaker 2: lead story. I mean, you know, all day long. But

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Speaker 2: we can argue that till your blue in the face counsels,

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Speaker 2: or your kid's future, which is your favorite story of

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Speaker 2: the DAA council's getting reformed, or your kid's future anyway,

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Speaker 2: does it may?

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Speaker 21: I mean, they did have to tell everybody that Jimmy

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Speaker 21: Clifford died as well.

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Speaker 2: Of course they had to get that on you anyway

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Speaker 2: for forty seconds, TeV one found in this, But that

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Speaker 2: doesn't excuse the rest of them that just astonishingly stood

1068
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Speaker 2: there as journalists listened to those results, and I think

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Speaker 2: they ended up asking two questions about the results, and

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Speaker 2: then they moved on to all the other conspiratorial crap

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Speaker 2: that currently occupies their minds.

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Speaker 21: I'm sure TV then posted a longer thing on their website, or.

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Speaker 2: Did they Apparently they didn't according to according to the

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Speaker 2: people next to Uglin, they didn't do any of that.

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Speaker 2: It is sixteen to eight The.

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Speaker 1: the News talks at me.

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Speaker 2: Roger Gray. Can I congratulate him? This morning? He's the

1079
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: head of Auckland Port and he gave a speech about

1080
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: the kiw we know culture and he made a downbeat

1081
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: prediction for the city rail link. They call you the

1082
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: people's speech yesterday. They call you the people of no

1083
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand, No Zealand, No Zealand because you just say

1084
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: no to everything. He claims Auckland's been let down when

1085
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: it came to the cruise tourism business. He went to

1086
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 2: Miami to speak to four major Cruz lines to find

1087
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: out what the problem was. Our nay, saying attitude was

1088
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: the answer. The Lioners had faced community protests of ship

1089
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: visiting Milford Sound. Government was anti Cruz just into a dooon,

1090
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: called them Petrie dishes. He said the new coalition was

1091
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: a much more customer focused, positive attitude government. If you

1092
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: wonder why I have a bromance with the Prime Minister,

1093
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: he used to be my old boss. The port was

1094
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: the first benefit from the fast track legislation. I'm very

1095
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: critical of New Zealand as being so sour on the economy,

1096
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 2: saying there was plenty of business to be done if

1097
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: only the public would stop protesting it. He makes a

1098
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: very good point, Mike, what about the comeback by the

1099
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: Cowboys against the Eagles. That was a good game. It's

1100
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: an excellent game. It's a very good game. I mentioned

1101
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 2: that yesterday. It's one of the great comebacks. Were they

1102
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: down twenty one dil I think they were down twenty

1103
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: one nil? It was twenty one deal. Sam and I

1104
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: enjoy this because Sammy supports the Eagles and fair enough too,

1105
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: that are very good side. But I support the Cowboys

1106
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: and the Cowboys were down twenty one nil and the

1107
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: way only really the Cowboys can be. And then they

1108
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 2: came back, and they came back and won, and it

1109
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: was a very good game, very exciting game. Mike, did

1110
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: you sort the Christmas balllls? So she was very funny.

1111
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: You should say that. I received a call. It was

1112
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: a video call from my wife yesterday and she was

1113
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: in a different part of the country. She was in

1114
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: what I loosely called the country, and she was at

1115
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: our house there and she had taken our youngest daughter

1116
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: there four reasons best known to my well, I didn't

1117
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: know at the time why she had, but basically, our

1118
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: youngest daughter had gone to raid our property and steal stuff.

1119
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: And she goes, she's taking this, this and gym. The

1120
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: videophone call was just going on. I was trying busily

1121
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: to work and she goes, now she's taking that Do

1122
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: you like that rug? I said, I love that rug.

1123
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh that rug's coming back. She's taken that rug then,

1124
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: and she just came home with the boot and it

1125
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: was a big truck. She took up just a big

1126
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: boot full of stuff. My question is, when do the

1127
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: kids stop nicking your stuff? Now this kid's moved out,

1128
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: of home. Right, when do the kids stop nicking your stuff?

1129
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 21: They can have my stuff if they.

1130
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 2: Leave, well, no ours have left.

1131
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. If it means that they

1132
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 21: stay away, they can take Well, you're.

1133
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: Better than I am, so they can have it. If

1134
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: they left, they can come back and take whatever they want.

1135
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: Got a new flat, they say I need a sofa

1136
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: for the flat, They'll just take your sofa. And the

1137
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: next thing you're saying on the floor.

1138
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 21: That's fine. I'll go down to Brisco's Black Friday Sail

1139
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 21: and get a bean back fair enough.

1140
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: The other thing about Sammy, and I'm looking forward to

1141
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 2: talking to Steve about this, is Sammy was out there

1142
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: cooking a steak last night on his balcony. And it's

1143
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: a good time of you for Sammy to cook the

1144
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: steak on the balcony because he's got a table out

1145
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: in the balcony. You can't afford a table inside. He's

1146
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: got a steak, he's got a table on the balcony.

1147
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: And the thing that I'm interested in at the moment,

1148
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, Hanson was banned from the Senate for

1149
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: her Burker stunt, but what was more interesting than that

1150
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: was after the Burkers stunt. She went back to an

1151
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: office and Barnaby Joyce visited and Barnaby Joyce is going

1152
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: to defect this week. And she cooked them steak why Ago?

1153
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: And they had steak and cellar? Now what did she

1154
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: cook the steak on the sandwich press? And of course

1155
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: Australia is a gas now they can you cook Wago's

1156
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: steak on a sandwich press?

1157
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 21: Does it do a better job than an ear for you?

1158
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: It's a very good question. Those are the questions. Those

1159
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: are the questions, glean. Those are the probing questions. You

1160
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 2: won't hear that on Radio New Zealand or TV one tonight.

1161
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 21: We'll see Sam would like to point out, by the way,

1162
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 21: well that he can't afford a table. Oh but his

1163
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 21: apartment's too small for one. That's the main issue there.

1164
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: So what the really is he can't afford the lounge,

1165
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: so he can't afford the lounge that would fit the

1166
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 2: tape thing.

1167
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 21: By the sounds of things, the apartment is mostly outside.

1168
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to it.

1169
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: The mic hosking Breakfast with the Defender and used togs deadbs.

1170
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: Glen pointed out, I didn't get to the Christmas balls

1171
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 2: did I she knit those as well? What's the point

1172
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: she went there and knicked the ballballs and the furniture and.

1173
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 21: The roh you can't hit somebody knicking your ball balls.

1174
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. Now from our science will

1175
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: save us file continuous glucose monitors this is for type

1176
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: one diabetes have helped over nineteen thousand keis reduced the

1177
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: risk of amputations and vision loss. Now hither very is

1178
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: the diabetes New Zealand and as well as Heather morning.

1179
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 13: Oh, good morning.

1180
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: Make are these monitors are the same ones they're wearing

1181
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: on Hollywood all the time and lots of glovies and

1182
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: stuff or where you know you buy your own glucose

1183
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: monitor and monitor? Are they the same thing?

1184
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 22: Well, they could be, Yes, I think they are.

1185
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: But because it's become a thing you realize in the

1186
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: fitness world that you monitor your glucose on an ongoing basis.

1187
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 22: Well, that's an interesting thing that for type one these

1188
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 22: are actually life saving and life changing. So it's a

1189
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 22: little bit different from the Hollywood one.

1190
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 2: Is it just type one or type two?

1191
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 22: Anyone who's installin dependent would benefit from wearing these. At

1192
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 22: the moment, FARMAC are only funding for type one. They're

1193
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 22: very expensive for about two hundred dollars a month, so

1194
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 22: there's been a bit affordable, especially for young, young families

1195
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 22: because you know type one comes as young as that's

1196
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 22: when you get it generally in use. So it's not

1197
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 22: only a financial burden, but you know it's a it's

1198
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 22: a social burden because they're these ones are A type

1199
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 22: ones are having to practice fingers eight ten times a

1200
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 22: day in order to check their blood sugar levels. But

1201
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 22: these cgms mean they don't have to do that, and

1202
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 22: then also talks to their phone and gives them a

1203
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 22: leak exactly, So quite different from a Hollywood situation.

1204
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, don't get me right, it's

1205
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: not a Hollywood. What I'm telling you is you can

1206
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: buy these things for yourself to monitor your own glucose,

1207
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: whether you've got diabetes or not. I'm saying it. It's

1208
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: like a it's like a it's a wop, it's an app,

1209
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: it's a it's an aura ring, it's that sort of thing.

1210
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 22: It is absolutely that, yes, yes, yes, but the good

1211
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 22: thing is we're now funder we never used to be,

1212
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 22: so it's fantastic.

1213
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: On the calculation though, if you're saving fifty three thousand

1214
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: dollars a day. The David Seymour line, I e. You

1215
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: save here to save later. Then why don't we just

1216
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: fund everybody? I mean, obviously I know the answer, but

1217
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: I mean in theory it would work, wouldn't it.

1218
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 22: Well, well, yes, I mean, look, good luck on that, Mike.

1219
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 22: I've been seven years campaigning to submissions and Select Committee

1220
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 22: just to get the type ones funded. So that you're right,

1221
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 22: I mean, I mean, look, it does say that. I mean,

1222
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 22: the thing the difference is is that what they are saving,

1223
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 22: which is the complications, and the complications are the you know,

1224
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 22: the renal units. Gosh, you know, fifty percent of people

1225
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 22: in the renal unit due to diabetes, blindness, stroke, cardiovascular

1226
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 22: diabetes sort of sits at the at the bottom of

1227
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 22: it of the It is a shame here, it is.

1228
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 22: So I think, you know, if we can get more

1229
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 22: funding and a little bit more intervention into things for diabetes,

1230
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 22: and our goal now is to get type twos.

1231
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, Well, I wish you're best with it,

1232
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: Heathern Heather very I'm sorry for being so practical about it.

1233
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: I just thought, you know, if you've been now to

1234
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: say later that's not a bad idea. Must talk to

1235
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 2: David seymore about that at some time. It is politics Wednesday,

1236
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: but moments away after the.

1237
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: News, asking the questions others won'te the mic, asking breakfast

1238
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, News, togs Head be.

1239
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: This is has got sort of a bit of a

1240
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: weird sort of appeal to me. This is part of

1241
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: this is the Pet Shop Boys Disco five. They don't

1242
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: obviously Disco one, two, three, and four. It's an infrequent

1243
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: series of remixes, and so sometimes they remix their own

1244
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: stuff and sometimes they remix other stuff, which what interests

1245
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: me as a business model is it never ends. As

1246
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: far as I can work out, does it mean you

1247
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: just remix stuff for the rest of your life and

1248
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 2: that's an income stream? I reckon the show remix would

1249
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: be good.

1250
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 21: That's what I've been doing.

1251
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 12: Is that what it is.

1252
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: We got twelve of the tracks, most of them are

1253
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: extended plays because we're extended mixes, as they say, and

1254
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: from the d Flour one hour and thirteen minutes and

1255
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: twenty two seconds one hour, thirteen minutes and twenty two

1256
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: seconds for twelve tracks like third Games It's time for

1257
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: politics Wednesday, and Jenny Anderson's with us along with Mark Mitchell.

1258
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: Good morning to both of you. Good morning, Mike, morning Jenny,

1259
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: Good morning Jenny.

1260
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 19: We could do a.

1261
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: You could do it. You could do a remix out

1262
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 2: of context. That's actually but that's most of my show,

1263
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: most Mornings actually as an album titled exactly out of

1264
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 2: Context by Mike Hoskin. Are you aware of what we're

1265
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: going to start with this morning, Jinny? I have been eluted? Yes, right,

1266
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: So I got the letter Monday morning from Wayne, and

1267
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: Wayne writes to me. He goes, Hi, Mike, Wayne, do

1268
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: you know Wayne?

1269
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 23: No, but I might find out.

1270
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay. Were you at the Wellington Business Excellence Awards last

1271
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: Friday night? Yes, I was, good night head by all.

1272
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 23: It was excellent actually, like the caliber of those businesses

1273
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 23: were amazing, some really interesting stuff going on.

1274
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 7: I can talk for that for a while. But Ingora

1275
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 7: wool will.

1276
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 23: Yarns are putting goats on farms which eat the weeds

1277
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 23: and they make money for the farmers, like real smart.

1278
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: Goats on farms. I think they've been doing that for

1279
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: a while. To be honest, we've got deals.

1280
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 23: Will Yarns have got deals with foreign buyers on Ingora Wall.

1281
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 23: That's doing really well.

1282
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, let's let's just cut to it. I mean,

1283
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm used to asking the hard questions. Jenny, did you?

1284
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 2: Did you or did you not reach over?

1285
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

1286
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: Here he goes. He's got a fat finger mark if

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Speaker 2: you put yourself on.

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Speaker 23: He's doing it to help me.

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Speaker 11: Look at that.

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Speaker 23: Mark's done something good.

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Speaker 19: No, No, someone someone someone tried to call me.

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Speaker 2: Was that was that LUs? It was Luxo counting the numbers,

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Speaker 2: obviously obviously someone that doesn't listen to the hosting show.

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Speaker 2: That'll be a middle of the labor base. Sorry, where

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Speaker 2: did you or did you not reach over the table

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Speaker 2: while Chris Bishop was away and swap your chicken for beef?

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Speaker 23: I did, and it was delicious and I enjoyed it

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Speaker 23: with a good red wine.

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Speaker 2: Does she sweat? Was bush? You're a dinner? It's a

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Speaker 2: bit more tired. It's a little bit more tired.

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Speaker 23: I will take responsibility because I'm good like that.

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Speaker 18: Meal drop.

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Speaker 23: He can't swap with someone if you don't want it.

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Speaker 23: And he'd been away for quite a long time. It

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Speaker 23: was getting cold. It was a good cut of meat,

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Speaker 23: looking like it might go to waste so and and

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Speaker 23: then by all accounts, he looks like he really enjoyed

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Speaker 23: the chicken, so like everyone was a winner.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, that's that's dodgy. Other have to watch my

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Speaker 2: food and coffee fields. Now Andy's are well. The difficulty

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Speaker 2: is that, unfortunately this is on me. I had Bishop

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Speaker 2: earlier on on the program, and of course the question

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Speaker 2: that needed to be asked, did you enjoy the check in?

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Speaker 2: And I completely check anyway. Well, good on you, Jenny,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for owning up to that. Now

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Speaker 2: other matters, regional councils, briefly, very briefly, because I don't

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Speaker 2: think anyone really cares. Will you Ginny live with that?

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Speaker 2: Broadly speaking as an idea, as does it strike you

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Speaker 2: as problematic?

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Speaker 23: Well, there's trying to tack all the same problem that

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Speaker 23: we were doing, which is, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 23: you've got small areas with a rating base that won't

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Speaker 23: support the infrastructure that they need. So they're coming at

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Speaker 23: it from a different way, but it's essentially the same

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Speaker 23: approach to the same issue we have with three orders,

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Speaker 23: with all of those issues. So this is a longer route,

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Speaker 23: probably a bit least bumpy, but it has actually still

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Speaker 23: got some big issues about how it's actually going to

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Speaker 23: work in practice, so we're interested to see how it goes.

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Speaker 23: I mean, but you know, we all agree that there

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Speaker 23: does need to be some work and reorganizing local government.

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Speaker 23: I think it's a little bit unfair to do it

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Speaker 23: immediately after a local government election. A lot of those

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Speaker 23: people who did go to the polls didn't realize that

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Speaker 23: when they were voting for the mayor they were going

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Speaker 23: to have more power than what they thought. And those

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Speaker 23: regional councilors who potentially won't have a job, so they

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Speaker 23: probably could have done that out of the sake of

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Speaker 23: good democracy and good processes to have that on the

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Speaker 23: table before people went to vote.

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Speaker 2: Would you defend that, mute?

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I've been pushing for this because as Emergency Management Minister,

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Speaker 19: I've been to nineteen local states of emergency around the

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Speaker 19: country in the last two years and I've seen what

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Speaker 19: an extra lay of governance can create real problems, issues

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Speaker 19: and confusion, and we don't need that when you're dealing

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Speaker 19: with emergencies. And a good example as war where the

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Speaker 19: river Mouth was mismanaged and as a result we had

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Speaker 19: a whole lot of houses that were flooded that probably

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Speaker 19: didn't need to be, and we had to put a

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Speaker 19: crowd manager in there because the relationship between the district

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Speaker 19: council and the regional council was under severe pressure. So

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Speaker 19: and I'm not going to throw any one of the bus.

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Speaker 19: I've had a few examples like that around the country

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Speaker 19: in relation to another layer of governance that I don't

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Speaker 19: think we need. So I'm a big supporter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, brief break more in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks B New Talks at Me sixteen past eight, Ginny

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Speaker 2: Anderson and Marke Mitchell Willis, Ginny, what's happened to poor

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Speaker 2: old Greg O'Connor? How come he got squeezed? What happened there?

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Speaker 19: Oh?

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Speaker 23: Well, it's a selection process, so good candidates went up.

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Speaker 23: There were a few there in the selections taken place.

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Speaker 23: So I think he's taking stock of what he is

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Speaker 23: going to do next and decide whether you're Helstein on

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Speaker 23: the list.

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Speaker 2: What would you do? Would you take it personally if

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Speaker 2: you got de selected from your seat?

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Speaker 23: Oh, it's always a tough process going through a selection process.

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Speaker 23: Some of those internal ones can be some of the

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Speaker 23: toughest I've actually been through, to be honest. So yeah,

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Speaker 23: it's not an easy one because you've got to put

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Speaker 23: yourself out there and amongst you know, your colleagues, and

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Speaker 23: then deal with the outcome and holds your hit up.

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Speaker 2: But he seems good.

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Speaker 23: He seems like he's doing it.

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Speaker 2: But low key on him. Does no one like him,

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Speaker 2: but good guy. He's a good guy.

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Speaker 23: He's a hard worker, and he's been really good as

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Speaker 23: Deputy speaker. No one marks with Gregor O'Connor when he's

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Speaker 23: in a cheer you don't. You don't often seem at

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Speaker 23: question time, but times in the house he's he's really decisive.

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Speaker 23: I think his police skills coming quite well making a

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Speaker 23: call and stick.

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Speaker 19: You know him well, well, yeah, I do know very well,

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Speaker 19: and I've got an enormous respect for him. He was

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Speaker 19: the president of the Association for a long time. He

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Speaker 19: had a he's had a policing career should be very

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Speaker 19: proud of, and which involved the undercover program as well.

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Speaker 19: It's a complete mystery to me, while they had a

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Speaker 19: guy like Gregor o' connor in the caucus, they put

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Speaker 19: someone like Poto Williams and his police minister. So I

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Speaker 19: think the local buddy completely under your laws.

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Speaker 2: The Renny guy junny. I mean, I know this isn't

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Speaker 2: your problem, but I mean, why why are you need

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Speaker 2: another unionist? Goodness sake? He's also an economist.

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Speaker 23: He's actually pretty smart. He's been really helpful in understanding

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Speaker 23: things like holes and National's budget, like going through line

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Speaker 23: by line and understanding where things are at. So he'll

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Speaker 23: be a big gest set to the team for looking

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Speaker 23: at budget documents and really understanding where people have hidden

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Speaker 23: the money. And when you're in opposition and I'm doing

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Speaker 23: that now for a scrutiny where you've got to line

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Speaker 23: by line look with documents, you don't you do because

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Speaker 23: they have a mess of that. They'll put things forward

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Speaker 23: and say that adds up. It is we know with

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Speaker 23: Paul Goldsmith that some things don't add up and the

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Speaker 23: public need to.

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Speaker 2: Know that is what would your advice, Mark be to

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Speaker 2: Michael Wood? Because I find this weird. He goes away

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Speaker 2: in some disgrace and then he decides to reheat himself

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Speaker 2: for another crack. Is politics one of those things you

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Speaker 2: can't shake?

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Speaker 19: Well, Some people just can't stay away from it what

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Speaker 19: you institutionalized in the areas. But my advice to him

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Speaker 19: would be that Tom carl has got the outstanding impedi

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Speaker 19: and now and Carlos chunk. Carlos is everywhere which we

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Speaker 19: are for his electorate, and he'll put his credentials sword again.

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Speaker 2: And I'm becking in am I correct in saying Jinny

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Speaker 2: that Michael would have to get selection for his seat

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Speaker 2: his old seat? Is that writer? Is that a done deal?

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Speaker 22: Now?

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Speaker 23: That's that's in every case, And there's always a process

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Speaker 23: where everyone says who's in and you put your hand up,

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Speaker 23: and if there's more than one, then he's a contested selection.

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Speaker 23: And I think with Michaels there was no other candidate,

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Speaker 23: so he was the only So.

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Speaker 2: He's already been selected. There's no other candidate. Was there

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Speaker 2: no other candidate because Michael did a deal somewhere with

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Speaker 2: somebody who goes if I stand or be no other candidate?

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Speaker 2: Is that how that works?

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Speaker 23: Look, I'm not up on the ground in Mount Roscoll

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Speaker 23: understanding the intricacies, but from what I understand, he was

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Speaker 23: the only candidate, and he was selected as the labor

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Speaker 23: candidate for the Mount Roskill. And now the job ahead

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Speaker 23: of him is to be everywhere more so than Carlos,

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Speaker 23: and to win that seat in order to get do that.

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Speaker 19: That's impossible.

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Speaker 2: You reckon, you got, you got, you got Roscoll's sign up?

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Speaker 2: Have you market? You're calling this one early. With Carlos,

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Speaker 2: he is everywhere that guys.

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Speaker 19: Just I've been really impressed with him as a local

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Speaker 19: mpea on the emergency management side of his right across that.

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Speaker 19: So yeah, I've been really impressible.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you cook steak? Given your red election towards beef, Jenny, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can tell. Do you cook it on the sandwich maker?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: I do not.

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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson, you know the Pauling Hanson story. She cooked

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Speaker 2: it on the sandwich maker. It's awful. She can't. It's

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Speaker 2: terrible about this.

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Speaker 19: I have a theory about this. And actually, to be honest,

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Speaker 19: when you when you think about it's obviously that Sam

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Speaker 19: has got space issues in his apartment, right, so get

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Speaker 19: rid of the barbecue. You know how much space a

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Speaker 19: barbecue takes. Correct, put a toasty out there and you

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Speaker 19: can see me on the other his mate, but he

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Speaker 19: can tast on the toasty. He's gonna say, Rupe, I

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Speaker 19: got another theory on this boke, Okay, I reckon that

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Speaker 19: if when you're really this is the same for all

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Speaker 19: of us, when you're really really hungry, Like if I'm

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Speaker 19: really really hungry, I would eat a Russel spirit rightly hungry.

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Speaker 19: If I'm not hungry, if I'm not hungry, I'm giving

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Speaker 19: the Brussels spirit the cold shit the shoulder.

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Speaker 2: So it all comes the end of how hungry you

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Speaker 2: are a great life role. It is a great life rule.

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Speaker 2: I've thoroughly enjoyed this. Nice to see you guys. We'll

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Speaker 2: see you next week. Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson eight twenty.

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Speaker 1: One, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news

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Speaker 1: talks did be.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Sammy and A real Estate and Bailey's real estate.

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Speaker 2: They've been proudly one hundred percent key. We owned and

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Speaker 2: operated more than just the legacy. It's a promise. It's

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Speaker 2: there promise to you, and it means putting people first.

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Speaker 2: Of course, leading by local expertise and having a commitment

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Speaker 2: to excellence that enables Kiwi's nationwide to achieve their real

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Speaker 2: estate goal. So whether it's residential or commercial or rural

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Speaker 2: or property services. Bailey has been supporting New Zealanders at

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Speaker 2: every age, at every stage for fifty years now, half

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Speaker 2: a century humble beginnings Bailey's real Estate, they've grown into

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Speaker 2: the country's largest full service real estate agency. So they've

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Speaker 2: got one hundred offices, more than two thousand people, stretching

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Speaker 2: from Kerry Carry to in Vcargo to the Islands. In fact,

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Speaker 2: they're proud of the local leg as they should be,

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Speaker 2: and they're proud that they've been doing things differently basically

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Speaker 2: for fifty years, delivering the local know how that gets

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Speaker 2: the best results. Probably one hundred percent here we owned

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Speaker 2: and operated. This is Bailey's real Estate. They are the

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Speaker 2: best there is in the business. Bailey's dot co dot

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Speaker 2: NZ asking LEAs just show me a photo of the

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Speaker 2: just how it's big balcony, big big balcony, And he

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Speaker 2: said because he only had the shot of a lounge,

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Speaker 2: which was very tindy. Lounge was a nice lounge, looked

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Speaker 2: like it had been recently vacuumed. It looked good. And

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Speaker 2: I says, they're all to the apartment and just the

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Speaker 2: lounge and the balcony goes, yes, there's there's there's the

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Speaker 2: spare room, and there's the kitchen, and then there's the library.

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Speaker 2: Called it the library.

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Speaker 21: Library slash study. I believe that's how he referred to it.

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Speaker 2: Itsacial no dining table though it's I mean a lot

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Speaker 2: of facilities.

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Speaker 21: But ay, there's a reading table in the library.

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Speaker 2: This's probably the small cricket old rent table, beautiful antique

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Speaker 2: piece from the seventeen hundreds. Mike, My thirty eight year

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01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: old daughter still does this raids rates as our daughter

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01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: came and stole some stuff from us yesterday, raised the pantry,

1510
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Speaker 2: makeup shoes. Lucky. She thinks my wardrobe's boring. No taste, Mike.

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Speaker 2: We cooksteak and sausages on a Brevel cheese toast machine

1512
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: all the time, wagu Mike on the George Foreman wicked.

1513
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Speaker 2: My husband cooks all our brunches on a sandwich maker.

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Speaker 21: Is the Brevel cheese toast machine? Like specifically just for

1515
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 21: cheese toast? But it sounds quite quite a specific name.

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of the Brevel cheese toast machine, but

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Speaker 2: it does sound.

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Speaker 21: Very including cheese.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't bother with that one exactly. Rather than focusing

1520
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: on the great mathematics story, Mike, the media. We're more

1521
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: concerned about Cristopher Luckson's response about would you be worried

1522
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 2: if there was an election today, several of you ministers

1523
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: would lose their job. Luckson's response was no, so they

1524
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: make a mountain out of a mole hole. Yeah, that

1525
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 2: was the other embarrassment of the media yesterday. Having watched

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Speaker 2: that thing live, his reference that he wasn't worried was

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 2: not about I don't care if all my people lose

1528
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 2: their job. His reference was it's a year away from election,

1529
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: and what he needs to do was being more like

1530
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: Erica was yesterday and just turn around and go can

1531
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 2: you stop asking stupid questions? This is an important issue.

1532
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 2: We've made a significant announcement today, and if you're literally

1533
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: going to stand here and waste your time, don't waste mine.

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 2: Because I'm the Prime Minister and you're a dickhead, all

1535
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: words to that effect. It's going to be different when

1536
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Speaker 2: I'm running the place news for you in a moment.

1537
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Speaker 1: And then Steve Price, tough On power sharp on inside

1538
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Speaker 1: the my casking Breakfast with the Defender, embraced the impossible news,

1539
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: Tom dead b.

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Speaker 2: Mike I had the same view as you yesterday about

1541
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: Luction's comment about saying he wasn't worried about losing some MPs. Well,

1542
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: see that's the point. He didn't say he wasn't worried

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: about losing MPs. It was all in the context. I

1544
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: mean the question that this was at the stand up

1545
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: at the school and the question was on today's polling,

1546
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 2: you would lose x number of MPs if an election

1547
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: was held now, the point being an election hasn't been hailed,

1548
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: and it's not being held next week or next month.

1549
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 2: It's next year this time next year, an election is

1550
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: eleven to twelve months away. Therefore, he's not even thinking

1551
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 2: about an election, and he's not worrying about losing MPCE

1552
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: because he's not wholy. He's got other things to think about.

1553
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 2: So it was a complete and utter non story that

1554
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 2: got made into a story because people have agendas. This

1555
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 2: is how you handle it. Carney Canada was asked the

1556
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: other day, this is about trade talks with the US

1557
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: and Canada. He was asked when he last spoke to Trump?

1558
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: Another classic boring media a stroke. When was the last

1559
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: time you spoke tonight? When was the last time he

1560
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 2: spoke to Trump? Carney responded, who cares? Who cares? It's detail.

1561
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 2: I'll speak to him when it matters. See that's how

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 2: you do it. Twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 14: Nine International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of

1564
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,440
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand business.

1565
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: See prices with It's in Australia. Good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning now Chris Bowen. He's got his new

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: role as COP president. So just I don't think we've

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: talked about it since it became official. You lost Cop,

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: you didn't get Cop. Turkey got Cop. So where does

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01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: that leave you? And does anyone care?

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 12: Well, Adelaide probably cares because they thought it was going

1573
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 12: to bring in a whole lot of very rich global

1574
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 12: warming fanatics who flying on their private jets to Adelaide Airport.

1575
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 12: It spent lots of money, but it was going to

1576
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 12: cost the Australian tax base somewhere between one and two

1577
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 12: billion dollars. So the white public, I'm very happy that

1578
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 12: we're not going to get next year's COP meeting Chris Bowen. Meanwhile,

1579
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 12: who is the climate change Minister? He was there in

1580
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 12: Brazil pushing Australia's case to have this meeting when it

1581
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 12: didn't happen, and the meeting is going to Turkey, of

1582
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 12: all places. I looked up Turkey the other day. Most

1583
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 12: of their power comes from either imported diesel or coal.

1584
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 12: By the way, Chris Bowen is now going to be

1585
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 12: something called the COP thirty one Negotiations President. You might

1586
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 12: well ask what that exactly is. Well, apparently Turkey has

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 12: a president of COP and then because they didn't want

1588
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 12: Chris to be too upset, they're going to have him

1589
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 12: flying around the world doing all of these negotiations and

1590
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 12: meetings As to what exactly will happen in Turkey when

1591
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 12: it happens next year, why would be Chris Balen who

1592
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 12: would know? Now he's coppted it in question time. He's

1593
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 12: been called a part time minister. He gets up there

1594
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 12: in rants and raves and tries to defend it. We

1595
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 12: do learn today that one of the first big meetings

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 12: he was supposed to be going to next year is

1597
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 12: going to be held in Colombia, where the Netherlands and

1598
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 12: another twenty four countries including Australia, have issued a joint statement.

1599
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 12: I'm not sure where New Zealand signed up to this

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Speaker 12: that we would phase our fossil fuels. I mean, the

1601
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 12: thing you think about with this and Bowen is a

1602
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 12: dreadful minister. How many This is an industry of meetings

1603
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 12: all around the world, people flying on planes to go

1604
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 12: and talk about how they're going to phase out the

1605
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 12: fuel that was in the plane that they got there

1606
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 12: for in the first phase. How do they think planes

1607
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 12: are going to work if you don't know if you

1608
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 12: phase our fossil fuel.

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01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: And if you read the communication from this year meeting

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01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: fossil fuels, we won't even mentioned because I think the tides.

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01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned it the other day, the tide without getting

1612
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 2: into a big argument about climate change. The realization has

1613
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: come to pass that whatever we promised in Paris all

1614
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 2: those years ago is not doable, will not come to pass.

1615
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: And the more meetings you have talking about it, you're

1616
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: just wasting your time, aren't you.

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01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 12: Yes, exactly. And you know, look, Lady's got such a

1618
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 12: majority in this country they want to get away with it.

1619
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 12: I mean, it will be a question time thing to

1620
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 12: laugh about for a little while, but at the end.

1621
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: Of the day and it's not going to really matter, right,

1622
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson, News are several questions I've got to you

1623
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 2: one the Burker things she's gone for six or seven days.

1624
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 8: Two?

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01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: Has she got Joyce across the line? Three? Is cooking

1626
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 2: wagu on a sandwich press the go to in Australia.

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01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 12: Now, well, come to three in a minute, because that's

1628
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 12: the big question that everyone's talking about. No one's doing

1629
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 12: about anything else. Has she got Barnaby Joyce across the line?

1630
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 12: For let's just remind people in New Zealand. Joyces his

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01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 12: former deputy Prime minite So he's held the Nationals leadership

1632
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 12: for a long time. He's been sidelined by the current leader.

1633
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 12: He doesn't like the fact that he's not got a

1634
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 12: senior position. He's sitting there on the back bench with

1635
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 12: very little to do. Will he go to One Nation?

1636
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 12: I'm predicting we'll find that out. Took ten now on

1637
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 12: the end of the week, and I suspect he will.

1638
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 12: And he's then been lined up as a future leader

1639
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 12: of one Nation. When Pauline finally gives it away the

1640
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 12: burkerfect question, well, you know, the lower House has only

1641
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 12: got this week to Senate's got Senate estimates next week,

1642
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 12: so they've got next week. The seven day band matter.

1643
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 12: To Pauline, she says, no, it doesn't matter at all.

1644
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 12: She got her, and she got the publisher that she

1645
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 12: wanted to get, and she wants to have the nation

1646
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 12: to have a debate on whether we should talk about

1647
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 12: whether full faced Booker should be banned or not. On

1648
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 12: the wagu state, I mean, where do you start? For

1649
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 12: a start? She had two thumping thick pieces of very

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01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 12: heavily marveled wag you beef. Now you're a wag you man,

1651
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:59,520
Speaker 12: I suspect.

1652
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: What's that big box?

1653
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 12: Were one hundred of steak? We tipped it out? What

1654
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 12: a waste I mean, And when you think about it,

1655
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 12: I mean, the way to cook wag you, as you know,

1656
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 12: is on a red hot, stainless steel plate where you

1657
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 12: escrape away the fat. Where did all the fat go?

1658
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 12: Once you turned the sandwich press together to cook these things?

1659
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 12: Someone else suggested Barnaby should have probably got could have

1660
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 12: got food poisoning because she didn't wipe the beef down

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01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 12: and salted and oil it properly anyway, And I'm being

1662
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 12: very technical here, but that was ridiculous. I mean, seriously,

1663
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 12: what a joke. When I saw that she'd done it,

1664
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 12: I thought I'd never heard of anyone in the world

1665
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 12: cooking steak on a sandwich press, except for in some

1666
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 12: I don't know, sharehouse in a poor suburb of Auckland

1667
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 12: where university students are all hanging out.

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01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: I mean, really very shocking. Now, where are you at

1669
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: with your lower speeds on the country ride? You've given

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 2: that up as well or not?

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01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 12: Yes, this was a federal government plan to cut speed

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 12: limit on country roads from one hundred down to seventy. Now,

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01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 12: while were we going to do that, Well, we're going

1674
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 12: to save lives on the country roads as the main reason,

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01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 12: they said. But one of the local officials who came

1676
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 12: up with this idea said it would also very much

1677
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 12: help us bring down our carbon footprint. And that's when

1678
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 12: the world lost their mind and the farmers out in

1679
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 12: the bush were going, look, come on, what seventy on

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01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 12: a country straight country road? I mean, the only reason

1681
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 12: you should be doing seventy on a country road in

1682
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 12: Victoria is they're littered with such big potholes that you

1683
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 12: car can disappear. I mean, you know, the great land

1684
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 12: or of a Defender that you talk about in your program.

1685
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 12: That might be okay, but driving along in any other

1686
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 12: sort of car, the amount of damage being done by

1687
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 12: unrepaired potholes is unbelievable. So no, we scrapped that. We're

1688
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 12: going to stay it up right now.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for the headline yesterday? You probably saw

1690
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: it in the Australian Press and I thought immediately of

1691
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: you the headliners as follows favoring Lando now isn't an

1692
01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 2: anti pastry conspiracy. It's the right thing to do. What

1693
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 2: lunatics said that that was in the Sydney Morning Herald

1694
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: and their argument is because pstre kind of can't do it,

1695
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 2: you've got to stop the Stappen. To stop the Stappen,

1696
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 2: you've got to lean with Lando and go with him. Cut.

1697
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 12: Yes, take the Sydney Morning here of Melan Regent.

1698
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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, all right, nice to see. We'll see

1699
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Speaker 2: you next week. Steve Price out of Australia. It is

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Speaker 2: sixteen to nine.

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Speaker 2: At b Tilla did rid yesterday. That is emboldened by

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Speaker 2: a little bit the a Poto Key harbor and what

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Speaker 2: was depressing about it was it's the first harbor that's

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Speaker 2: been built in decades, which is a shame anyway, it

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Speaker 2: started back in twenty eighteen. Jones was there, Shame was there,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to well we'll see how much it revolutionizes.

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Speaker 2: But the construction created a couple of hundred jobs indirect

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Speaker 2: employment of course all over the place. A lot of

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Speaker 2: dredging going on anyway. The economic modeling by the district

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Speaker 2: council are the Apotokey District Council. That could be the

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Speaker 2: last thing they ever do. They're on the way out,

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Speaker 2: of course, will produce one hundred threenty two million and

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Speaker 2: economic benefits to the region, which is good. Came out

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Speaker 2: of ninety five million from the Regional Investment Opportunities Fund,

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Speaker 2: twenty million from the Bay of Plenty Regional Council.

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Speaker 22: There to go.

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Speaker 2: They have plenty of regional council. It's probably the last

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Speaker 2: thing they'll ever do. Invested just over fifty two the

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Speaker 2: government fifty two million in the last six years in

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Speaker 2: the muscle processing business. That came from the Provincial Growth Fund,

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 2: remember the old Provincial Growth Fund. The next question I

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Speaker 2: have for you, would you go see Michelle Obama. I'm

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Speaker 2: reading in the Australian Press this morning. She's due there

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Speaker 2: next year. She's a couple of nights, one in Sydney,

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Speaker 2: one in Melbourne, and it seems to be part of

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Speaker 2: this I mean one. It's the experiential thing that we

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Speaker 2: all seem to want to spend our money on these days.

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Speaker 2: We want to go see things and do things, and

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama is the latest see. I hope that Oprah

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Speaker 2: Winfrey I called it. I don't think I called it

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Speaker 2: publicly because that would have been mean to me to

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Speaker 2: do it. But privately I said, Oprah's no one in

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Speaker 2: the world Oprah these day is going to sell out

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Speaker 2: Vector Arena because between the last time Oprah was there

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Speaker 2: and now, Oprah's image has not really been enhanced to

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Speaker 2: any great measure if you followed her particular story through

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01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 2: weight watches, so I note that she's been moved to

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Speaker 2: a smaller venue. But Michelle Obama, I would have thought

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Speaker 2: to a limited watch, isn't it? I mean really, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what is it you want to hear from Michelle Obama?

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Speaker 12: What was she?

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Speaker 2: Well, she was the wife of a guy who ran

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01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: America for a while, So I mean if the guy

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01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: who want ran America came you'd think, oh, yeah, fair

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Speaker 2: enough and go. I mean I went and saw Barak

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: and he was dreadful, but at least he was the

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Speaker 2: president or ex president, where she was just the woman

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Speaker 2: who married the president. So I don't know that's a

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Speaker 2: night out.

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Speaker 21: But possible future president.

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Speaker 2: Nah, She's ruled that out enough for us to I

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Speaker 2: don't don't.

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Speaker 21: That's what they all say, though, isn't it. Do you

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01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 21: mean Marjorie Taylor Green said the other day that she

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Speaker 21: wasn't running for president?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to go work for the Herald? Is

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01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 2: that where you're heading?

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01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 19: Now?

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01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 21: What was Christopher Luxen doing it at school yesterday?

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01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 2: He was exactly really what was he really doing anyway?

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01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: So sorry, I don't even know that Michelle's coming here.

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01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: She's just going to Australia, and I, from what I

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 2: know of how the things work, if you go to Australia,

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: you turn up here. So if they announce in the

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01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: next day or say, as you're turning up here, is

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01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: that something you're interested in? What would you play to

1769
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: go see Michelle Obama turn away from nine.

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Speaker 2: If there were light refreshments and scones included in the

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Speaker 2: ticket price. It seems reasonable. Mike. You keep ruling out

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Speaker 8: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think if I can get that Michael Wood

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Speaker 2: deal whereby no one stands against me, that Michael Wood deal,

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Speaker 2: that was a good one. I don't know how you

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Speaker 2: arrange that, but it's an excellent one. Mike. I think

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Speaker 2: Luxan needs to stop being nice and polite and deal

1801
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: with the media as they deserve. Tell you what if

1802
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 2: you didn't watch it, just just if you get a

1803
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Speaker 2: couple of months, go look up the tape of that yesterday.

1804
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Speaker 2: And at the very end where Erica goes loose and

1805
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Speaker 2: she she's talking about the list. The unions have drawn

1806
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: up a list trying to embarrass Principles into signing it.

1807
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Speaker 2: On this teterity thing, you say, all of these schools

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Speaker 2: are going, oh no, we're going to promote to deterity

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Speaker 2: or and or the business of the curriculum review. Can

1810
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: you slow down on the curriculum review. We don't like

1811
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 2: the curriculum review anyways, Holow Principles on the list. She

1812
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: was claiming that they've been bullied into it and she

1813
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: went for it, and Luxon was staring into middle distance.

1814
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: I was watching him closely. He was steering in the

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Speaker 2: middle distance at the time, and I thought, are these

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01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: pennies dropping, mate, listen to what she's saying and how

1817
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: she's saying it. Are the pennies dropping. Stop being such

1818
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Speaker 2: a nice guy with it. But I think that's just him.

1819
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: I just think he's a nice guy and he doesn't

1820
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 2: know how to say you're a dickhead, and he needs

1821
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: to learn to say that more often, not on the show,

1822
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Speaker 2: but on other shows. Five minutes Away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist ware House, Black Frondy Sale for now.

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Speaker 2: He said that to me. I cry. The vice president

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01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: of Campbell's Soup has found himself in a bit of

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Speaker 2: bother because of leaked audio from an executive meeting.

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Speaker 12: It's barely any more so.

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Speaker 4: Given look at it, bio engineered me.

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Speaker 16: I don't want.

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Speaker 12: A piece of chicken that came from a three D printer,

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Speaker 12: poor people.

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Speaker 2: See that really needs to be like that's you do

1833
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Speaker 2: a press conference. That way you're going all the way

1834
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 2: to the top. His name is Martin Belly. He is

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Speaker 2: currently the vice president. I'm assuming for not much longer anyway.

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Speaker 2: So that's Campbell Soup's particular problems on the day. The

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Speaker 2: other good news I can leave you with today is

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Speaker 2: All's Fair had got a second season. This is I've

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Speaker 2: watched one episode of this and I shouldn't get too

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01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 2: excited because for the aesthetic, I said to you at

1841
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Speaker 2: the time, this is the Kim Kardashian Glenn Close thing.

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Speaker 2: It's in terms of acting, it's very ordinary, but in

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Speaker 2: terms of the aesthetic, the clothing, the fashion, the houses,

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Speaker 2: the car, it's GOB's making it.

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Speaker 21: So you put it on your frame TV with the

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Speaker 21: soundown and just watch it exactly right.

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Speaker 2: All's Fear has got a second season, so it is

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Speaker 2: Hulu's biggest original scripted series in years. So for all

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Speaker 2: the critics can't argue with the numbers.

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Speaker 12: The first away.

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