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Speaker 1: Digging through the spend to find the real story. It's

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Heather duperic Ellen Drive News Talk said.

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Speaker 2: Be good afternoon. We'll be across the weather. It is

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Speaker 2: Auckland is no longer the most expensive place to buy

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Speaker 2: the election campaign. We have a date Martin Snedden on

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Speaker 2: the problem facing sports bosses in this country. Plus we're

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Speaker 2: in the UK and the US. Ryan Bridge, great to

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Speaker 2: have your company this afternoon. Now, did you hear the

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Speaker 2: great news we are getting rid of the Grocery commissioner job? Yay,

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Speaker 2: I can hear you clapping up and down the country.

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Speaker 2: And it's about time. It's been an utter waste of

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Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis, the crisis they of course

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Speaker 2: helped create. Now. Paula Rebstock did a review into the

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Speaker 2: the role of groceries are and the Telecommunications Commissioner as well,

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Speaker 2: the hundreds of thousands of dollars. How much cheaper are

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Speaker 2: your groceries, dear listener when you go to the checkout,

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Speaker 2: the duopoly now? Exactly? Waste of time and money. The

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Speaker 2: money could have been better spent subsidizing butter for poor families.

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Speaker 2: So you have a board, you have a twelve person panel,

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Speaker 2: Do we think things will change for us? Plubs at

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Speaker 2: We need good regulators, of course we do, and we

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Speaker 2: Would your groceries and your petrol suddenly become more expensive?

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Speaker 2: which case you've got to ask yourself what the point

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Speaker 2: Ran Bridge, nine minutes after four Now a hobby shop.

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Speaker 2: This is a story, and there's been a couple of

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Speaker 2: Three teens accused of taking some Pokemon cards. Yes, that's

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Speaker 2: all they wanted. This is a New Market yesterday evening. Now,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Thomas Ryan, how are you very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: So tell us what you saw?

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Speaker 4: So, I'm grabbing some late lunch in New Market yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 4: No, No, I was holding him with two hands, and

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Speaker 4: Honest, when that situation occurred, I kind of just it

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Speaker 2: You're a private investigator, which is and I suppose it

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Speaker 2: And what about the I understand the store that sold

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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, hey, Thomas, really appreciate your time and thank

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Speaker 2: That's Thomas James, who was there Secure Collections and Investigations,

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Speaker 2: I hope you're keeping safe and dry as you can

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Speaker 2: five o'clock. Sadly somebody that looks like may have lost

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Speaker 1: With the tab app download and get your bed on

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Speaker 2: Darcy is here, Hey, dars Hi.

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Speaker 2: Black Caps kick off their two twenty series against India tonight.

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Speaker 5: All the games two thirty in the morning, hardly ideal

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Speaker 2: Is it fashion? Is it tennis?

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Speaker 2: After four year on news Talks, you'd be dares to

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to David Seymour about that after five thirty tonight.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand and the

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Speaker 2: great to have your company this Wednesday afternoon. Now, Chris Hopkins,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but Gavin Newsom's the California governor,

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Speaker 1: And it's time to stand tall and firm.

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Speaker 6: He wouldn't have a backbone to promise you with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: He's a t rex.

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Speaker 7: You meet with him or he devours you.

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Speaker 10: I am willing to resign. I've prepared to resign. There

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Speaker 11: Finally, this afternoon, I've got a game for you.

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Speaker 7: Yuppy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, keep yuppy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't quite remember what this was, but I do

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Speaker 2: now that I've read the story. Keep you Uppy. Twelve

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with He's an Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one to five. It's got a Dan Mitchison now

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Speaker 2: US correspondent, Dan, Welcome to the show, Hi, Ryan. Now,

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Speaker 2: Trump gave a marathon press conference. I caught part of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 14: You would hate to be his press handler because you

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Speaker 2: Then markets they were closed Monday, obviously because you guys

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Speaker 14: six thirty our time Pacific time tomorrow morning. But Dow, Nasdaq,

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Speaker 14: and the S and PR all up, which is good

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Speaker 14: news and what I think. I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 14: of concern. There's a lot of unease about what's going

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Speaker 14: on right now with Greenland and and of course what

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Speaker 14: Trump may or may not say in Switzerland. But he

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Speaker 14: also doubled down on his efforts to impose this two

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Speaker 14: hundred percent tariffs on French wine Champagne after the President

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Speaker 14: of France reportedly snubbed a seat on his board of

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Speaker 14: peace on Gaza. So there are so many balls in

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Speaker 14: the air right now, it's kind of hard to keep

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Speaker 14: track of keep track of all of Ryan.

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Speaker 2: What's your sense of it from where you're sitting. Do

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Speaker 2: you think this is posturing to do some kind of

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Speaker 2: deal over minerals? Do you think he's actually going to

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Speaker 2: take Greenland off the NATO country.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I mean, anybody that says they know what he's going

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Speaker 14: to do five minutes before he does it is just

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Speaker 14: taking a wild guess. I mean, he's repeatedly refused to

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Speaker 14: rule out military action to take over Greenland. Polls over

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Speaker 14: here in the US, the majority of Americans say they

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Speaker 14: don't support that. It's even being dismissed by some Republican lawmakers.

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Speaker 14: But you know, he does not go with the flow

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Speaker 14: of the crowd. And as we found out in the past,

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Speaker 14: he's his own person and he does what he wants

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Speaker 14: most of the time, and you know, the pulse and

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Speaker 14: his loyal followers seem to, you know, hold him to

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Speaker 14: it and seem to stay with him.

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Speaker 2: What's the most beautiful airport in America?

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Speaker 14: Dan Well, the most beautiful airport has been crowned in

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Speaker 14: San Francisco. It is the Terminal. This was a an

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Speaker 14: international architecture firm and they gave them a design award

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Speaker 14: and at San Francisco's international Airports, Harvey Milk Terminal one

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Speaker 14: which received the top honor. And they said, and the

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Speaker 14: Harvey Milk, for those that don't know, is a famous

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Speaker 14: gate rights leader that was gunned down, and it highlights

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Speaker 14: his political career and the impact on San Francisco that

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Speaker 14: it has. There On Reddit users are praising the terminal

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Speaker 14: for the art and how clean it is in the food,

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Speaker 14: and sort of connecting our two countries here. This is

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Speaker 14: kind of a key gateway too in the US if

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Speaker 14: you're coming over from New Zealand and that airport has

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Speaker 14: seen a seven percent increase in Kiwi tourists in the

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Speaker 14: last year. And I think an airport makes, you know,

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Speaker 14: a great first impression when you're arriving somewhere for a

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Speaker 14: holiday or even business. You know, San Francisco International certainly

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Speaker 14: does that.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just so it's the art as the food,

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Speaker 2: but it's also the cleanliness.

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Speaker 14: It's also the cleanliness, yeah, yes, which is I mean,

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Speaker 14: you know, if you've done some traveling around the world

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Speaker 14: and you've seen a few airports, you know there are

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Speaker 14: some that are better than others. San Francisco certainly is

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Speaker 14: at the top of its league.

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Speaker 2: Massive important because especially for US, because we do a

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Speaker 2: lot of long haul being at the bottom of the world,

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Speaker 2: and once you get you know, you've been on a

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Speaker 2: plane for twelve hours. You don't want to step into filth,

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Speaker 2: you know, and then hang around in filth for three hours.

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Speaker 2: So it's very important Queen Airport.

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Speaker 14: Well, it is, and that's why that to this day.

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Speaker 14: Dun Eden's airport is my favorite in the Southern Hemisphere.

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Speaker 14: And I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not hond not hurt.

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Speaker 2: Really okay, good to know. I'm sure they'll be stoked. Dan,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Good to have you as on as always.

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Speaker 2: Dan Minson, our US correspondent. Seventeen minutes away from five

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Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge. We'll get to Azaria Hall next. Ryan. Please

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Speaker 2: ask Seymour why he is giving his tick to this

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Speaker 2: new grocery commissioner. Well, the change from a grocery commissioner

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Speaker 2: to a board plus one thousand committees for the ComCom

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Speaker 2: Very good questions, Stuart, and we will ask him. He's

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Speaker 2: on the show after five point thirty. We'll get to that. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's Keith Ryan at a house party many moons ago.

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Speaker 2: We kept three. Well Keith next year. I can't read that.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a nice one about It was

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Speaker 2: a nice one about the game where you keep the

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Speaker 2: balloons in the air. Keith, you were playing quite a

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Speaker 2: different game with quite a different type of balloon. Sixteen

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Speaker 2: to five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 2: Spurting to five Alclo no longer the most expensive place

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Speaker 2: in the country to buy a house. I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: where is after five right now, Azaria, how News talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be senior political reporter with us. Azaria. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 13: It's good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: And we have an election date.

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Speaker 13: We have an election date. The Prime Minister has announced

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Speaker 13: the twenty twenty sixth general election will be held on

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Speaker 13: November the seventh. Chris Luxen says setting the election date

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Speaker 13: early in the year sort of gives a bit more

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Speaker 13: certainty to New Zealanders. The government also intends for Parliament

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Speaker 13: to rise on the twenty fourth of September and then

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Speaker 13: Parliament to dissolve on October. The first advance voting will

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Speaker 13: start on the twenty sixth of October. That's in the

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Speaker 13: current plans. The PM's also spoken about this significant economic

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Speaker 13: turnaround plan that National is hoping really gets felt more

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Speaker 13: widely across the country this year. Another big aspect though,

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Speaker 13: of this election date, coalition talks. The Prime Minister has

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Speaker 13: reiterated he's confident that those talks would be able to

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Speaker 13: be sorted out by Christmas with that November seventh date.

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Speaker 13: Although lux And he says he is willing to work

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Speaker 13: with ACT in New Zealand first again, although he is

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Speaker 13: pushing for people to party vote. National Labor leader Chris

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Speaker 13: Hopkins responded to this. He said it's a relatively late election,

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Speaker 13: usually sort of October the time to do it. He's

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Speaker 13: claiming that this means that the Prime Minister wants to

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Speaker 13: hold on for as long as possible, also saying that

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Speaker 13: it could be a challenge to have those coalition talks

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Speaker 13: done before Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Right now, what about Chris Sipkins. He's given his first

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Speaker 2: speech of the year to his caucus in West Auckland

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Speaker 2: today and I saw he gave a bit of a

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Speaker 2: serve to bishop and to Luxe and over the housing thing.

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Speaker 2: What else has he been saying?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the big deal here really the party wanting to

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Speaker 13: win back the super city flip some of those seats.

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Speaker 13: Hipkins really putting emphasis on how important that is, saying

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Speaker 13: that Labour wants to win back the biggest city and

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Speaker 13: that there will be a dedicated strategy around Auckland. So

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Speaker 13: it really does seem like having more of a focus

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Speaker 13: on this. Auckland has been a bit of a pressure

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Speaker 13: point for the party, especially last election. Another pressure point

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Speaker 13: though policy, which may continue to be a bit of

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Speaker 13: a worry over the year. Chris Hopkins is promising the

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Speaker 13: party will announce new policies going ahead.

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Speaker 15: However, the fiscal plan, so how we will balance up

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Speaker 15: the government's books and any spending many major spending commitments

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Speaker 15: and so on, those things will come later in the year.

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Speaker 13: So major decisions around spending seem like they may have

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Speaker 13: to come after the budget. That's something Labour's said in

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Speaker 13: the past. It does though bring about questions, notably do

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Speaker 13: they have enough time from budget day to election day

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Speaker 13: to really sell those policies to people.

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Speaker 2: Now finally we've got a retirement announcement already, so Duncan

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Speaker 2: web from Labor had already said he was going, and

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Speaker 2: now Adrian Ruafi, the previous speaker, is out.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the former Speaker, Adrian uuda Fe has announced his

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Speaker 13: resignation from politics. He'll be standing down at White Honey

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Speaker 13: Day so quite soon, and he's wanting to do this.

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Speaker 13: It's been announced before the Adults in a Church movement

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Speaker 13: as well, essentially, so he doesn't go to that with

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Speaker 13: this kind of resignation looming over his head. He will

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Speaker 13: then be replaced by Georgie Danzy on the labor list.

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Speaker 13: Chris Hepkins also confirmed he's not expecting any more labor

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Speaker 13: resignations to announced, but he's confirmed a bit of a reshuffle.

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Speaker 15: Good bit of a game of chess, you know, he

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Speaker 15: move a few pieces around. It always involves a few

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Speaker 15: subsequent changes from that.

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Speaker 13: Well, on the other side of the house, the PM

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Speaker 13: did flag potential changes in the National Party earlier in

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Speaker 13: the week. He said there may well be a reshuffle

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Speaker 13: in the next month or two. We may well have

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Speaker 13: some retirements. There has been some speculation. It is just

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Speaker 13: chatter rumors at this point, nothing substantiated. However, former National

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Speaker 13: Party Minister Chris Finlayson has said, speaking to the podcast

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Speaker 13: Cross Party Lines, that there were rumors about whether or

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Speaker 13: not Judith Collins is going to call it a day.

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Speaker 13: Her press team, though, has emailed me a statement saying

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Speaker 13: Collins was confirmed as the National Party candidate for the

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Speaker 13: Papacuta electorate in October last year. I mean, you would

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Speaker 13: think it would be quite strange to select her in

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Speaker 13: a seat and then have to replace her. Here's what

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Speaker 13: Chris Bishop had to say about it all earlier today.

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Speaker 13: Not really wanting to get involved in this discussion.

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Speaker 16: But if she is, there is a position for her

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Speaker 16: and Amma announcement for her to make it.

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Speaker 1: It's not for me to make it.

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Speaker 13: So a bit unclear there about Collins. Obviously it's an

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Speaker 13: if at this point, not a yes or a no.

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Speaker 2: Interesting stuff is Zaria? Thank you for that. Zaria Howe

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Speaker 2: out of Parliament for US nine away from five right now.

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Speaker 2: I said that there was another pregnancy in the White House,

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Speaker 2: and I wasn't lying to you. So Caroline Levettho's the

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Speaker 2: Press secretary. She's pregnant, and you can, I mean you

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Speaker 2: can sort of you know, you see it, you know

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Speaker 2: when you turn on the TV and see the press conference. Also,

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Speaker 2: she has an amazing ability because when and I don't

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Speaker 2: to explain pregnancy to you, but you know, when women

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Speaker 2: are pregnant, like heavily pregnant, they sometimes have trouble with

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Speaker 2: their breathing, you know, like it's hard to breathe and

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Speaker 2: to speak a lot and to do long sentences. Caroline

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Speaker 2: Levitt does not have that problem. Have you noticed. It's

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Speaker 2: very impressive to watch my friend Donna is pregnant all

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Speaker 2: the time and I can't understand what she's saying. This

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Speaker 2: is every second thing. It word as a breath poor

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Speaker 2: thing anyway. So not only is Caroline Livitt pregnant, but

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Speaker 2: now Jade Vance has announced that he and his wife

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Speaker 2: Usha are well, she's pregnant. It's weird when people say

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Speaker 2: the guy is pregnant because he's not. But Usher, his

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Speaker 2: wife is pregnant. Is going to be their fourth child,

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Speaker 2: due in summer, and she will be the first vice

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Speaker 2: presidential spouse to be pregnant. So congratulations on that, very

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Speaker 2: great news. He's forty one, she's forty due in July.

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Speaker 2: And this is a guy, of course, who's worried about

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Speaker 2: the declining birth rate in America and is doing something

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: Eight to five The headlines and the hard Questions. It's

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Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 17: Art has got thirty nine percent of us holding a

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Speaker 17: bachelor's degree or higher. Chris Whelan's the chief executive of

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Speaker 17: University's New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It's thirty nine percent a good number.

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Speaker 18: Well, actually, no, we're actually lagging behind most other comparable countries.

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Speaker 18: Every country has gone to over the last thirty years,

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Speaker 18: an international trend of educating their population as their workforces

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Speaker 18: become much more knowledge worker basea wow.

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Speaker 17: So is that a cultural thing? We just don't value

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Speaker 17: higher education the way other countries do.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to tell.

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Speaker 18: People are rational. They will follow where the jobs are,

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Speaker 18: and I think the New Dent economy hasn't developed perhaps

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Speaker 18: as quickly as some other economies have.

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Speaker 17: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 17: Mayley's Real Estate Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 2: Five to five on Newstalk Z be great to have

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Speaker 2: your company this afternoon. Will do weather after five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We will also talk about the city that is now

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Speaker 2: more expensive than Auckland to buy a house. Cops spending

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Speaker 2: money on advertising. I don't necessarily have a problem with this,

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Speaker 2: but the Police Association does so. They've spent two point

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Speaker 2: seven million dollars last year on a big marketing campaign

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Speaker 2: to recruit new cops. They say it's money well spent.

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Speaker 2: But the Police Association president, who is Steve Watto's a

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Speaker 2: guy I actually rape. We having only interviewed him what

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Speaker 2: half a dozen times because he's not been in the

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Speaker 2: job long, but seems like he knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: He's not happy about it. We'll talk to him after

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Speaker 2: five as well, but I have to bring this to

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Speaker 2: your attention, some breaking news. This is Donald Trump's plane,

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Speaker 2: so you know he's He's throwing the cat amongst the pigeons,

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Speaker 2: as he likes to do with Greenland ahead of Davos,

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Speaker 2: over in Switzerland, jumps on Air Force one to get

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Speaker 2: over there. Everyone's at fever pitch waiting for his arrival,

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Speaker 2: and something's happened to his plane. It's had to turn around.

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Speaker 2: There's a mechanical problem. He's basically doing a one of

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Speaker 2: our Defense Force jobbies. Here is a C and N

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Speaker 2: reporter of moments ago about this.

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Speaker 19: Air Force one did turn around moments ago. It is

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Speaker 19: on its way back to join Air Force Base Andrews.

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Speaker 19: And this is because of what they are calling a

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Speaker 19: small mechanical issue. They're saying that it is not serious,

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Speaker 19: but that they needed to return back and that President

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Speaker 19: Trump is still going to go to Davos, but he

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Speaker 19: will be taking a backup.

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Speaker 2: Plane, AH Air Force two. You're on news talks. He'd

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Speaker 2: be where the.

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Speaker 20: Next questions answers, Thanks analysis the drive show you trust

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Speaker 20: for the full picture.

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drive News Talk. Sa'd

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Speaker 1: be good.

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Speaker 2: Even seven half for five breaks ahead of your company,

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Speaker 2: A lot of weather around, a lot of rain around

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Speaker 2: four regions across the North Island under a precautionary state

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Speaker 2: of emergency. Fitz Janga, Carmandel clatter off closed off, dozens

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Speaker 2: of household and ten have been evacuated already. Peter Rebel

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Speaker 2: is the Thames Coramandal District mayor with me tonight, Peter,

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Good evening. How are you holding up there

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Speaker 2: in Thames Corrimandel.

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Speaker 6: Oh, well, we're actually holding up well, but we are

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Speaker 6: experiencing a huge volume of rain for sure. It's we

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Speaker 6: had almost record levels I think of rain overnight which

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Speaker 6: really severely impacted the east coast of our peninsula. So

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Speaker 6: fidy Yanger got cut off quite early in the morning

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Speaker 6: with flooding over roads and what have you. Continues to

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Speaker 6: be cut off, but we are expecting the worst of

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Speaker 6: this to come in the next four or five hours.

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Speaker 6: Met Service are telling us there's going to be significant

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Speaker 6: volumes of rain in the next four or five hours,

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Speaker 6: so that will certainly load up the rivers and threaten

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Speaker 6: slipper slips on roads and what have you.

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Speaker 2: What's your beg worry? Is it the roads and are

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Speaker 2: people heading your warnings or are they sort of red

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Speaker 2: alerted out.

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Speaker 6: Look people, people are hitting the heating wardings. You know,

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Speaker 6: we are. It's not uncommon for us to have in

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Speaker 6: Cleingland weather at certain times and the most residents kind

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Speaker 6: of know what that means, and so that's don't travel

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Speaker 6: unless you need to. But of course we're, you know,

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Speaker 6: one of the country's premiere holiday destination, so we've got

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Speaker 6: a lot of visitors, a lot of holidaymakers here who

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Speaker 6: may not be quite so used to having rain like

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Speaker 6: what we're having. So we're making sure we get the messages,

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Speaker 6: don't you know, if you're on vulnerable ground, get to

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Speaker 6: high ground, you know, don't drive as you don't need

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Speaker 6: to drive. For many people they won't be able to

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Speaker 6: because the road is I think we've got eleven roads

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Speaker 6: that are closed and that pretty much cuffs off many

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Speaker 6: of the communities on the east coast, you know, Fittying

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Speaker 6: Cook's beaches cut off and who he has cut off

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Speaker 6: because the roads are flooded.

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Speaker 2: All right, Peter, take care tonight, Peter Revel Thames Corimandal

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Speaker 2: District Mayor. It is nine after five Ryan Bridch move

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Speaker 2: over Auckland Bay have plenty officially the most expensive place

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Speaker 2: in the country to buy a house. Today, new trade

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Speaker 2: Mean data shows Bay Plenty has the highest average asking

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Speaker 2: price in the country nine hundred and sixty three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's eleven k more than Auckland. Auckland, by the way,

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Speaker 2: has had that title for basically a decade. Ed mckknight's

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Speaker 2: resident economist at Oprah's Partners, joins me tonight, ed, good evening.

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Speaker 21: Great to be here, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: So is this Bay of Plenty getting more expensive or

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Speaker 2: is this Auckland price is still dropping or both?

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Speaker 21: Well, there's a couple of things going on. First of all,

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Speaker 21: we've got to be clear that we aren't talking about

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Speaker 21: asking prices here, and of course you can ask however

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Speaker 21: much you want for your house. It doesn't mean you're

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Speaker 21: necessarily going to get it. But what we are seeing

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Speaker 21: at the moment is, right now there are quite a

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Speaker 21: lot of reasonably expensive properties for sale over there in

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Speaker 21: the Bay of Plenty. Up here in Auckland, we are

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Speaker 21: seeing quite a few cheaper properties for sale. We have

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Speaker 21: had our townhouse boom, and so because Auckland's property prices

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Speaker 21: have been very expensive in the past, the market has responded.

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Speaker 21: We've now got some cheaper properties on the market. That's

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Speaker 21: why you see that difference in asking price. What I

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Speaker 21: will just say before people get their hopes up too much,

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Speaker 21: there is still quite a large difference between Auckland and

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Speaker 21: the Bay of Plenty when it comes to sale prices.

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Speaker 21: That gap has narrowed over the last ten years, but

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Speaker 21: the median sale price of a house in Auckland is

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Speaker 21: still about one hundred and fifty grand more than over

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Speaker 21: in the Bay of Plenty.

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Speaker 2: So the vendors and bayo Plenty just greedy. Not necessarily.

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Speaker 21: It might be that it just so happens that right

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Speaker 21: now and you see this sometimes it just so happens

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Speaker 21: that there are larger houses for sale at the moment,

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Speaker 21: whereas you might have smaller ones over here in Auckland,

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Speaker 21: and you do need to pay attention or just be

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Speaker 21: a bit careful with asking prices. For instance, over the

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Speaker 21: last twelve months in Gisbon, the average asking price is

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Speaker 21: down thirty four percent year on year. Now does that

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Speaker 21: mean that Gisbon house prices have fallen off a cliff

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Speaker 21: and everybody's house is worth a third less? No, it

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Speaker 21: just happens that the makeup of houses has changed. The

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Speaker 21: houses that sold twelve months ago aren't the same as

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Speaker 21: the houses that are selling this year. It just so

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Speaker 21: happens thus smaller or cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Also, on trade me and other sites like it, they

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Speaker 2: don't necessarily list and asking price, do they, So it's

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Speaker 2: it only will presumably would only take into account those

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Speaker 2: that give one oh no.

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Speaker 21: What happens in the back end when a real estate

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Speaker 21: agent goes in and pops that property online is they

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Speaker 21: will put an indication of the price they are seeking,

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Speaker 21: because even if the property goes up for sale at

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Speaker 21: auction or deadline sale, people still need to be able

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Speaker 21: to filter and say, okay, I'm looking for a property

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Speaker 21: between six and seven hundred thousand dollars. And even if

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Speaker 21: the listing pops up and says auction, the real estate

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Speaker 21: agent still had to say, this is the ballpark what

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Speaker 21: they're aiming for.

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Speaker 2: Right, So they would give an actual number, a ballpark number,

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Speaker 2: or just range.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's right. And you might remember about a year

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Speaker 21: or so ago, there was a website that popped up.

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Speaker 21: A couple of young kids who put one live that

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Speaker 21: managed to pull out from trade me what the real

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Speaker 21: estate agent had actually put into the website somehow they'd

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Speaker 21: got into the back end and looked at the code

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Speaker 21: or something along those lines, and they got shut down

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Speaker 21: pretty quickly because real estate agents weren't happy about that.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't like us knowing the truth to Ed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Ed McKnight Resident Economists. That Open's partners. It's

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes.

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Speaker 1: After five, Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: You know we'd a couple of years ago, well, a

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Speaker 2: couple of elections ago, I should say, there was the

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Speaker 2: story about the sewerage coming, rural sewage coming out of

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Speaker 2: some pipes at the hospital. I think it was Middlemore

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Speaker 2: Hospital in Auckland. Well, I can do you one bet. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's probably no better. Actually, they're probably both just as

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Speaker 2: disgusting as each other. But over in Australia and we

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Speaker 2: look at Australia and we go, wow, they can pay

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Speaker 2: so much more for their doctors and nurses and teachers

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Speaker 2: and their facilities and their motorways and everything's perfect over there. Well,

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Speaker 2: not so perfect, not so perfect, because today the story

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Speaker 2: out of Australia is a hospital patients in bed. Imagine

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Speaker 2: you just had your tonsils out, whatever maggots falling from

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Speaker 2: the ceiling while you're on your deathbed. The infestations force

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Speaker 2: the closure of wards and the cancelation of surgeries. A

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Speaker 2: likely cause, apparently is mold in the air conditioning system.

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Speaker 2: Flies are attracted. I hope you're not eating dinner yet.

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Speaker 2: Nuts too early. Flies attracted to the decaying organic matter

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Speaker 2: lay their eggs in the mold, from which the maggots hatch.

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Speaker 2: Hospital bosses say they're working to ensure it returns to

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Speaker 2: normal as soon as possible. Yeack five point thirteen News

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Speaker 2: Talks B. We'll talk next to the Police Association about

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Speaker 2: the massive amounts of money two point seven million bucks

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Speaker 2: that they spent last year the police. This is on

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Speaker 2: breage on News Talk ZB it's seventeen minutes after five.

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Speaker 2: So Chippy's been at the Labor Party resort retreat at

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Speaker 2: a resort in west Auckland if they have one, and

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Speaker 2: he's done a speech to his caucus and he's also

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Speaker 2: spoken to the media. This is off the back of

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Speaker 2: the election date being announced. By the way, if you're

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Speaker 2: just joining us in November seven, we've got the date,

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Speaker 2: the one everyone thought it would be. So he's come

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Speaker 2: out and said he was asked a bunch of questions,

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Speaker 2: you know, who are you going to put in which

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Speaker 2: positions he's ruled out. You will be pleased to hear

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Speaker 2: some of you. Some of you may be disappointed ruled out.

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Speaker 2: Co Leader of the Greens Choe Swarbrick getting Finance minister

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Speaker 2: if he wins the election.

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Speaker 15: I've already made it very very clear and a government

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Speaker 15: led by Labor. The Prime ministership will be held by

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Speaker 15: me and the Minister of Finance will be Barbara Edmonds

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Speaker 15: and those are non negotiable.

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Speaker 2: Now just as important, he's also announced as wedding day.

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Speaker 15: We did say last year WORL would wait till the

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Speaker 15: election day and that a wedding date was likely to

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Speaker 15: be sometime in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: Now I have some things, some thoughts to share with

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Speaker 2: you about that. I'll do it at five twenty five.

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00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: It's eighteen after Brian Bridge. There's got to the police.

873
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 2: They've been spinning up larger on marketing. In the twelve

874
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: months since the Commissioner, Richard Chambers took office, two point

875
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: seven six million dollars was spent on a big recruitment

876
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: marketing campaign. That is double the previous year. Commissioner says

877
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: it's money well spent. There were seven hundred and eighty

878
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: eight graduates from Police College last year, and attrition fell

879
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: to four point nine percent. Steve, what is the Police

880
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: Association president? He's with me now, Steve good Evening, got

881
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: a right money well spent? You agree with the commissioner?

882
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 12: No, not particularly. Look, any organization has to spend a

883
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 12: bit of money in order to make themselves attractive. But

884
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 12: when we're still struggling to get the five hundred officer target,

885
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 12: you'd have to wonder if that was money well spent.

886
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean it would take a while, wouldn't it for

887
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: those applications to be put in, for them to be reviewed,

888
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: and then to actually get bums on seats.

889
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 12: Look, there is that that time that it takes in

890
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 12: order to get that done. All we've got to remember, though,

891
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 12: is that they are getting a flurry of applications. But

892
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 12: out of those applications, actually only six percent make it

893
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 12: through to Police College. So although they're getting probably a

894
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 12: lot more applications through the door, in reality, those that

895
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 12: are getting into college are a lot less.

896
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: You've got to get the word out done, you, I mean,

897
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: we want more cops. How to how are people to know?

898
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you're right, only six percent, But if it's

899
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: six percent of five hundred people versus six percent of

900
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: one thousand. You're better to have more applicants, don't you.

901
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 18: Oh, I get it.

902
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 12: You do need to spend money in order to get

903
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 12: people through the door. That's an absolute no brainer in

904
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 12: any organization needs to do that, and the police is

905
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 12: certainly no different. What you've got to ask yourself the

906
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 12: question is is this been.

907
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: Being for buck and you don't think it is?

908
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 19: Not?

909
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 3: Overly?

910
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 12: I think you know, when we've got a number of

911
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 12: stations that require new roofs, resourcing that's required out there

912
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 12: on the front line resource sing for the police employees,

913
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 12: maybe we could have spent that money, or please could

914
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 12: have spent that money a little bit differently and still

915
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 12: got really good results through a recruitment campaign with maybe

916
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 12: a few less funds.

917
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: Steve, appreciate your time, Steve want Police Association President. Twenty

918
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: one minutes after five news Talks MB So we've got

919
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: the election date. Who's going to win it? That's next?

920
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Ryan

921
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Bridge on hither duplusy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand

922
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: coverage like no one else's news talks.

923
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: That'd be five four, So we've got a date. It's

924
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: the date the pundits have been picking since late last year,

925
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: November seventh, for the election. This election, in my view,

926
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: is Nationals to lose. The only question really is how

927
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: much influence ACT and or New Zealand First will have

928
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: on any future government. Don't get me wrong, it's going

929
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: to be a close race. Here's some easy picks for you.

930
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: National will get more votes than Labor. New Zealand First

931
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: will outperform ACT. New Zealand First will steal from Labor

932
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: and nip at their heels to Party. Marty's reputation, as

933
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: you know, is already pretty much in the bin, so

934
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: the Marlori seats are anyone's guests at this point. Winston Peters,

935
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: as always, will decide who actually wins the election. He's

936
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: ruled out working with Chippy, but not Labor. Here's the

937
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: crucial point, though Winston Peters cannot politically enter a deal

938
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: propped up by or supported by the Greens or to

939
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: Party Mardi. It would be political suicide in pretty much

940
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: every pole this term, Labor has needed both of them

941
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: to get close to the magic sixty one seats. Now,

942
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: you could argue that National might stumble and Labour could surge.

943
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: The chances of this happening, I would say, are probably

944
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: around twenty percent at this point, very unlikely. The economic

945
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: recovery is underway, Summer will be around the corner come November.

946
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 2: But most importantly, people won't switch horses mid stream when

947
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: that recovery has been so hard for the memory, particularly

948
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: in Auckland, is too short for voters to forget Labour's

949
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: COVID mess and unbridled spending on outrageous and expensive things.

950
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: Remember the seven hundred and fifty million dollar bridge going

951
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: across the Waita Maita harbor that wouldn't carry a single car,

952
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: the bike bridge. Come on, our memories aren't that short.

953
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: Chris Hopkins today has also announced a date his wedding.

954
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: He says it'll be held in twenty twenty seven, and

955
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: I fear Tony that means you are likely to marry

956
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 2: an unemployed bloke from the Hut Crying Bridge. You're on

957
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: new TALKSB twenty six minutes after five. Ryan Labor is

958
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: prioritizing Auckland. This is what Chippy's told us today. So

959
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: why did they select Michael Wood? Hardly a new dynamic

960
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: candidate says Grant. Yeah, but he's the Unions like him.

961
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: I actually saw Michael Wood up north. I was in

962
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: Northern doing a roadie for summer and he was up

963
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: there with his family. I didn't get close enough to

964
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: stop and say hello. We're sort of passing in the

965
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: car Cape Cape r Danger. We were right at the

966
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: top and he was in his Union car with the

967
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: logo on the side, on holiday with his family. I thought, no,

968
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if the Union. I'm sure I'm assuming the

969
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: Union would know about that. But what are the rules

970
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: when you've got a company car? I see, I've never

971
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: had ones. I don't know, but maybe you're allowed to

972
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: do it, hopefully paying for his own petrol over the full,

973
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: all those subs from the fine workers of it too.

974
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: You're on news talks, he'd be lots of more to

975
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: talk politics. We've got Jack Tame and Fellow Riley on

976
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: the huddle coming your way after news back in a.

977
00:48:43,000 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Sex Hard Questions Strong opinion Ryan Bridge on hither du

978
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: for Sellen Drive with One New Zealand and the power

979
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: of satellite mobile news souks, it'd be to me.

980
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 22: Can be running seas, get them running.

981
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: Our well get to the huddle in a few seconds time.

982
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: Donald Trump says, there's no going back on Greenland. This

983
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: is he heads to Davos. The irony is, of course,

984
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: that his plane is turning back because there's a mechanical fault.

985
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: So he's going back to the States from whence he

986
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: came and then the problem will be fixed. Well, actually no,

987
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: he's going to jump on another plane. And as many

988
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: of you have pointed out, whatever plane Trump gets on

989
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: becomes air Force one, so he won't be on the

990
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: Air Force one, but he will be on our air

991
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: Force one, and it'll be the Air Force one once

992
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 2: he's on it. So that you go twenty five minutes

993
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: away from six. Lots of texts come in about We

994
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 2: spoke earlier about this hospital on across the Tasman where

995
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: maggots were falling out of the roof on two patients

996
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: who were recovering. Ryan I worked at the north Shore

997
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: Hospital for twenty years, says Cheryl. The air conditioning was

998
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: very seldom cleaned out, but when it was you should

999
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: have seen the crap that came out of it. It

1000
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: was absolutely disgusting, Cheryl, I'll take your word for it.

1001
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do wear a mask, not breathe,

1002
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: you know, Ryan our Son. This is on police and recruitment.

1003
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: They've spent double last year what they did the year

1004
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: previous on advertising their recruitment campaign because they want more cops.

1005
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 2: Ryan our Son has made three attempts to join the police,

1006
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: each time falling short after the ride along but passing

1007
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 2: the other components. No feedback ever given, just a stock

1008
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 2: standard flyway comment with the assessment being undertaken by new cops.

1009
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this was part of the assessment. Apparently

1010
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 2: they do a ride along in the car and that

1011
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: this person reckons there's some was assessed by someone who'd

1012
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: been on the beat for a month and they give

1013
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: the Yale name. No wonder there's such a small number

1014
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: who actually finally get through twenty three.

1015
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: To two six, Ryan Bridge, Well, we.

1016
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: Now have an official election date. It'll be November seventh,

1017
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: and with the official vote counting taking up four weeks,

1018
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 2: we might be getting coalition negotiations for Christmas. David Seymour

1019
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: is leader of the ACT Party and joins me now, David,

1020
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: welcome back. Good to have you here for a new year.

1021
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 7: Well, likewise, right, it's spice to hear your boys.

1022
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: So do you reckon we have a government? Buy it

1023
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: before Christmas?

1024
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 14: Well?

1025
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 3: I hope so.

1026
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 7: And there's no reason why not.

1027
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 11: A lot of people are frustrated about the time taken

1028
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 11: to count the vote. I have to say, I think

1029
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 11: that you take as long as it takes, so long

1030
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 11: as we've got an election that has cast iron and

1031
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 11: people can be certain that the voting has been done

1032
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 11: freely and fairly. We had some problems with that last election,

1033
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 11: and I actually think that's a much bigger problem than

1034
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 11: has been given attention to.

1035
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 7: So let them count the vote.

1036
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 11: And then it's really a matter of well, what of

1037
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 11: the people of New Zealand decided? And once we know

1038
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 11: that what cards each party has, then we can make

1039
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 11: a decision. I can certainly tell you that a fact

1040
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 11: is in a position to form a government. First of all,

1041
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 11: a lot of people I've been talking to over summer

1042
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 11: won't have to leave the country as they've threatened.

1043
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 7: But second of all, I see no.

1044
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 11: Reason why we wouldn't get it done in a couple

1045
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 11: of weeks, having had that whole vote count time leading

1046
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 11: up to it to prepare.

1047
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: PM told you yesterday about the date November seventh sensible.

1048
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I think one of the things that will do.

1049
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 11: And I'm not saying this is why Chris chose the date,

1050
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 11: but we've had a long, hard slog as a country.

1051
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 11: I would trace it back as far as twenty nineteen

1052
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 11: as when stuff started getting a bit difficult and it

1053
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 11: didn't improve through COVID, and we've had the recession and you.

1054
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 7: Know the rest.

1055
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 11: We've done a lot of work and a lot of

1056
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 11: people have made a lot of sacrifices to get to

1057
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 11: the stage where a recovery is actually underway. And I

1058
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 11: think it's only fear that people get to judge the

1059
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 11: government on the benefits of its policies delivered before they choose.

1060
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: How was your trip to Argentina.

1061
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 7: It was fantastic.

1062
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 11: You know, basically take off about two weeks a year

1063
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 11: and I try and go somewhere else because I love

1064
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 11: when people come up to me and tell me what

1065
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 11: they're thinking. But sometimes just for a couple of weeks

1066
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 11: go somewhere where.

1067
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 7: No one's going to do.

1068
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 11: That is a nice change, especially for my partner, and

1069
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 11: we had a great time as a great country of

1070
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 11: really friendly people and a lot of stuff just works

1071
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 11: really well.

1072
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 7: There.

1073
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you make of the reforms? Are they working.

1074
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: Well?

1075
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 11: All the evidence we have is that they have half

1076
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 11: the number of government departments, They've cut government spending thirty percent,

1077
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 11: They've removed a huge amount of red tape and regulation.

1078
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 11: Poverties come down, economic growth is up. They're balancing their

1079
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 11: budget for the first time in a generation. So yeah,

1080
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 11: they're doing the kinds of things that I would generally

1081
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 11: advocate have the government focused on doing fewer things and

1082
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 11: doing them well and then let the magic of entrepreneurship

1083
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 11: and business and hard work out in the rest of

1084
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 11: the community grow the economy.

1085
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: This U turn and Chris Bishop and the housing intensification

1086
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Speaker 2: in Auckland, has anything actually been through cabinet yet?

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Speaker 11: Well, if it had, it would be up to the

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Speaker 11: responsible minister and I wouldn't give that away to announce it.

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00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 11: But at this point Cabinet hasn't actually sat this yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 11: so it'll sit next week for the first time.

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Speaker 2: So we're not actually sure what we're talking about yet.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what they're talking about, what the U

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00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: turn is?

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm just being as interviewed by the Herald and

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Speaker 11: they preded it this morning. I'm being respectful of my

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Speaker 11: various colleagues, most of them are called Chris and letting

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Speaker 11: them work through their process. But I think what is

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Speaker 11: clear is that what Auckland needs is faster consenting, faster

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Speaker 11: infrastructure connections, more homes getting built. What we don't need

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Speaker 11: is what we've had for five years, which is Wellington

1101
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 11: basically imposing plan changes on us, because we've been doing

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Speaker 11: that since the end of twenty twenty one when Labor

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00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 11: and National had this stitch up. Then we push that

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00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 11: back and now we've had another plan that again Auckland

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00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 11: is aren't too happy about. And the tragedy of it

1106
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 11: all is that idly we do need to get more

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00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 11: homes built. If the next generation don't see a pathway

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00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 11: to property ownership, they'll either leave or vote for people

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00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 11: who militate against our community. And I think it's critical

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00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 11: that we actually get more home spelt. But this Wellington

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00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 11: meddling hasn't got us yet, hasn't actually got my homes belt.

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Speaker 7: It's just meant lots of pink long back and forth.

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00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: David, are you across the changes proposed changes to the

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00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: ComCom getting rid of the role of grocery Commissioner hooray,

1115
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: waste of time, wasted money. But the number of roles

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00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: that look like they'll be created seems to me from

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00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: an outsider perspective, to be absurd.

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Speaker 11: Well as I understand it, and this is outside my area,

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00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 11: but first of all, I campaigned against the Grocery Commission.

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Speaker 7: I always thought it was a bit of a joke.

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Speaker 11: I always had a picture on my own mind if

1122
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 11: the four square guy with the apron and the pencil

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00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 11: running around harassing people hasn't actually got grocery prices down,

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Speaker 11: by the way, So appointing another person in government isn't

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Speaker 11: always the solution. But as I understand the reforms, and

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 11: again it's not my era, it's got Simson's responsible for this,

1127
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Speaker 11: But what they're trying to do is put in place

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Speaker 11: a proper board of governors who hold the management accountable

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Speaker 11: for getting results in that organization. Now, a lot they've

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Speaker 11: had today is sort of a halfway house between the two.

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00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 11: So you have these commissioners who are half governors, half managers,

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00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 11: and it's not really clear who's holding who accountable for what.

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Speaker 11: So if you look at something like Sapharmac, we've got

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Speaker 11: a really great board. We've got a great CEO after

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Speaker 11: some changes we've made and it's going really, really nicely.

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Speaker 11: We've got a great announcement for but we're coming tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: Structure there trying to put on.

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Speaker 2: But what they're talking about is a board. Okay, fine,

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00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: but plus a panel of up to twelve plus committees

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Speaker 2: on specific areas.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I can understand people will say, why are

1142
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 11: you creating more buiocracy? All I would say is that

1143
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 11: sometimes it actually makes sense to have a good split

1144
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Speaker 11: between governance and management. Whenever people and governance aren't full time,

1145
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 11: they basically show up periodically and say, right, guys, what

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 11: have you achieved since we last met? And that can

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00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 11: be helpful because if people are holding themselves accountable, sometimes

1148
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 11: things go skew with Second of all, it is true

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Speaker 11: that they have to check if areas are competitive and

1150
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 11: often quite technically different. So you know, I'm just actually

1151
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 11: sitting in traffic like most of Auckland right now, I've

1152
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 11: got a cement truck in front of me. The economics

1153
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 11: of cement making, if you ever have trouble getting to sleep,

1154
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 11: is a fascinating thing to read about, and if you

1155
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 11: want to regulate it then it's actually quite difficult to

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00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 11: regulate as a competition agency. I happen to know this

1157
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Speaker 11: because I got involved in a case of a while

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Speaker 11: back in this area.

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Speaker 7: So you know, if I haven't bored you out of.

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Speaker 2: It, you have yet right out.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, But I make the point that you know

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Speaker 11: there is there is a case to have some some

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Speaker 11: specialist people so that they actually know what they're talking

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Speaker 11: about and don't just go and willy nilly and make

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Speaker 11: pas confident.

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Speaker 2: In David appreciate it. David Simola ak Party leader with

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Speaker 2: us from traffic in Auckland, sixteen away from six the

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Speaker 2: Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southaby's International Realty A name you can trust

1170
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: locally and globally.

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Speaker 2: It'll wake us up. Jack Tame, host of Saturday Mornings

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Speaker 2: and Q and H.

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Speaker 23: Good evening, Good evening, Ryan, you should have tack with

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Speaker 23: the Argentina question.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I want to know more about it.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, very cold and he got to

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Speaker 2: meet him and he went to his office and all

1178
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Speaker 2: that stuff. Hey, fellow, ridings with us as well. I'm

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Speaker 2: do partners feel good evening?

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Speaker 3: Here you go, mate, and and I've had a few

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Speaker 3: decent sized stakes in Argentina. They are just the best

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Speaker 3: steaks outside of New Zealand. Of course I'm a very

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: low man, but the stakes in Argentina you have hi

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Speaker 3: about mid and eight, just the nature of the beast,

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Speaker 3: but fantastic place Argentina. I agree with David on that's

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Speaker 3: a great spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful. Right, let's talk about that. So we've got

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Speaker 2: an election date. Either of you raise your hand, we

1189
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Speaker 2: will say your name. Willing to take a punt on

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Speaker 2: the outcome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go. The two things that you've got

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00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: to worry about with election, if you're the government or

1193
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 3: the opporitionital one is is the economic recovery that's currently

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Speaker 3: going on going to be widely felt by New Zealanders

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Speaker 3: right by November. And that's what Seymour was just talking

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Speaker 3: about a minute ago. He put it more nicely than that,

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Speaker 3: but he's really saying government wants some time to see

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Speaker 3: that the government recovery is going to go on. The

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Speaker 3: second thing is does the government get to own it?

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Speaker 3: Does the government get to say to New Zealand as well,

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Speaker 3: we help that, we help that come and as a

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Speaker 3: result you should vote for us. It's not the other mob,

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Speaker 3: because I'll up your taxes or whatever the lines they

1204
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Speaker 3: use and where that's where you've got to make a guess.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to make a view. We're sitty taking

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Speaker 3: this view in our business. It's most likely that that

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Speaker 3: does actually occurring, that the government's re elected in some fortum.

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Speaker 3: But g it's a close run thing. And bear in mind,

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Speaker 3: even if the government is re elected, it won't be

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Speaker 3: the same government. Even if the Luxlon is the prime

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Speaker 3: minister in November, it will be a different form of government.

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Speaker 3: There will be a different mix of the of the party.

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Speaker 3: So I think I think at this moment it's a

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Speaker 3: clos run thing, but it's most likely. I think the

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Speaker 3: government gets re elected, but GEO could easily come up

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Speaker 3: with another proposition just the opposite Jack.

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Speaker 23: I think, as it stands today, Ryan, I think it's likelier,

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Speaker 23: much likelier, that some version of the current government or

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Speaker 23: something adjacent to the current government is returned. I don't

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Speaker 23: know if I put a number on it, but I

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Speaker 23: think that's much more likely than a labor leaed government

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Speaker 23: being in government.

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Speaker 7: Next. I think there are.

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Speaker 23: Two big risks I think about when I think about

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Speaker 23: the current government. Christopher Luxen and Crissipkens the opposition. On

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Speaker 23: the opposition side, I think by the timing of the

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Speaker 23: economic recovery, there is a risk that seven or eight

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Speaker 23: months from now they are going to be arguing to

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Speaker 23: New Zealanders about how bad the economy has been rather

1230
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Speaker 23: than what people are actually experiencing, and that if you're

1231
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Speaker 23: trying to say, hey, stuff's really really bad and people

1232
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Speaker 23: are actually feeling a little bit of optimism in the

1233
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Speaker 23: economy for the first time in a couple of years,

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Speaker 23: that's a very tricky place to.

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Speaker 6: Be as an opposition.

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Speaker 23: And I think on the government side of things, a

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Speaker 23: black Swan event like is it totally incomprehensible that we

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Speaker 23: could see the US move against Greenland, that we could

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Speaker 23: see action in the taiwanstrate or something like that over

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Speaker 23: the next nine months, That might once again put a

1241
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Speaker 23: massive spanner in the works of the global economy, which

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Speaker 23: I think would play against the current government.

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Speaker 2: Risk because I was thinking about that this morning, Jack,

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Speaker 2: do you think that would play against the government or

1245
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 2: do you think, as was the case in Australia with

1246
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Speaker 2: the terrorists, actually it could play to the favor of

1247
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 2: let's stick with the you know, the devil we know.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, honestly, I don't know. I mean, I don't know

1249
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Speaker 23: that Christopher Luxen has necessarily connected with people in a

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Speaker 23: way that he would have hoped he has over you know.

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Speaker 7: Over the last couple of years.

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Speaker 23: Would that mean that people turfed out the current government

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Speaker 23: and appointed labor and a glimb of in a moment

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Speaker 23: of you know, topsy turviness international I don't know. It

1255
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Speaker 23: also depends on where the Americans actually are, Like, would

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Speaker 23: we be positioned against the Americans in a black spot?

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Speaker 7: It's one event.

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Speaker 23: Who knows, honestly, it's just like putting.

1259
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Speaker 7: Your finger in the air and guessing.

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Speaker 3: But that the US midterms take place. The US midterm elections,

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Speaker 3: which could lose Trump quite a lot of power on

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Speaker 3: the US take place November the third, four days before

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Speaker 3: the election, so there's going to be a lot of

1264
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Speaker 3: hoop plower around that, a lot of instability. Clearly in

1265
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: the US domestic political seen the most consequential election of

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Speaker 3: the year by far. That So to Jack's point, I

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Speaker 3: agree with them that these risks are a risk for

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Speaker 3: the government just as much as they are for the opposition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which means vote on election day, don't go early,

1270
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 2: because you need all the information you can get. Fellow Riley,

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame on the Huddle, back in the teck.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only

1273
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: truly global brand.

1274
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Speaker 2: Nine to six, Jack tam and Fellow Riley on the

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Speaker 2: Huddle tonight, guys, Jack will start with you. On the

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Speaker 2: social media ban under sixteens. There's this poll from the

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Speaker 2: Post that says sixty five percent would support it. What

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: do you reckon?

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Speaker 23: I'm honestly surprised it's not higher Asian womens of the poll.

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Speaker 23: I was like, oh, well, we're under sixteen allowed to

1281
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Speaker 23: vote on this as well.

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Speaker 7: I reckon.

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01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 23: I reckon in a couple of years that this is

1284
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Speaker 23: this is going to be the norm among countries that.

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Speaker 18: We usually compare ourselves with.

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Speaker 23: I reckon, like a lot of OCD countries are not

1287
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 23: OECD as opposed to OPD. I think we're going to

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Speaker 23: follow this pass, not including the United States for obvious reasons,

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Speaker 23: but I think unless as a real catastrophe Australia, this

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Speaker 23: is going to become the kind of mainstream policy of

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Speaker 23: a lot of centrist parties around the world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to argue with that fell.

1293
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think and I agree with that. And what

1294
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: was interesting about that survey result was that the majority

1295
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Speaker 3: of eighteen year olds thought that was a good idea

1296
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Speaker 3: interesting a. So even those who were very close to

1297
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Speaker 3: being part of the band, even a majority of them

1298
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Speaker 3: said it's a good idea to do this. And Jack Swright,

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Speaker 3: I think what's happening in Australia. It's imperfect. I see

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Speaker 3: something like four million accounts have been closed down and

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Speaker 3: some of the complaints are well, the kids had to

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Speaker 3: stop on Whatsapple, one of those message ops that's not

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Speaker 3: yet been banned for them. And so the point is

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Speaker 3: that yes, it's imperfect, and yes to be your sorts

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Speaker 3: of workarounds and people screwing the scrum if you like,

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Speaker 3: and getting online with different personas it's on, And that

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Speaker 3: goes back to parental responsibility. Those parents should really be

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Speaker 3: helping this because there's no question that the evidence is

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Speaker 3: in on this. Social media is harmful to those to

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Speaker 3: young people in many many not all, but in many,

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Speaker 3: many circumstances. And I agree with Jack. I think the

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Speaker 3: Australians it's perfect. Though it is I think we'll be

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Speaker 3: copied and has been copied. You're hearing it being talked

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Speaker 3: about in the UK and elsewhere, so I think the

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Speaker 3: government will announce it and I think it'll be very

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Speaker 3: popular amongst their potential voters.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things where people know it's bad

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Speaker 2: for them, but they can't stop it, and they almost

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Speaker 2: want someone else to tell them that they can't. You know,

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Speaker 2: there is there is like a.

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Speaker 7: Stuff there.

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Speaker 6: There are some free speech.

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Speaker 7: You know, concerns and some personal liberty concerns.

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Speaker 23: I'm sure if you asked David Seymour he would take

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Speaker 23: a very different position to a lot of other people

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Speaker 23: about the band. But I mean that's the good thing

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Speaker 23: about having Australia right. We can we can watch very

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Speaker 23: closely how things go over the next six months or so.

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Speaker 23: It might be you know, a little early for really

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Speaker 23: detailed data as the overall effects on kids, but we've

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Speaker 23: got a perfect test case just over the day.

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Speaker 2: Jack tame Phillo Riley on the Huddle News Talk said,

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Speaker 2: be six to six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duple See Alan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: d Radio powered by News talksb.

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Speaker 2: Us Talks MB. It is four minutes away from six.

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Speaker 2: Ryan on the Grocery Commissioner. David Seymour has just completely

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Speaker 2: destroyed his credibility on wanting fewer public servants. I have

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Speaker 2: to say I tend to agree with that. What was

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Speaker 2: up with that weird, long winded answer, Ryan, I'm an

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Speaker 2: act voter. That would be Seymour's most boring interview. Is

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Speaker 2: he still on holiday? Says Grunt. He could have talked

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Speaker 2: up Malay type reforms, but he talked concrete mixes. David,

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Speaker 2: pull your finger out, says Grant. So I'm brutal but

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Speaker 2: honest feedback. I'm sure David Sema would appreciate it. Coming

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Speaker 2: up to six when we come back. Martin Snedden, former

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Speaker 2: New Zealand cricket boss, what's up with all the vacancys

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Speaker 2: for our top sporting codes across the country? By the way,

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Speaker 2: Tolliger Bay, East Coast Civil Defense there says you are

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Speaker 2: now under an evacuation noticed near the Heckawai River as

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Speaker 2: the bad weather continues across the country.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing for the

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Speaker 1: business hour with Bryan Bridge and Mass Insurance and Investments.

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Speaker 1: Your future spent good hands New storgsby.

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Speaker 2: Seven after sixth Great to have your company on the

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Speaker 2: business Our big drops on Wall Street. We'll get a

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Speaker 2: market update with Jeremy Hutton from Milford shortly Showba's coming

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Speaker 2: your way. Gavin Graham the UK a report on homeowners

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Speaker 2: trying to pick the ocr trough First. Our three biggest

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Speaker 2: sporting bodies right now are leaderless. Is there a problem

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Speaker 2: with sports executives running out of puff? Rugby? Netball, cricket?

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Speaker 2: Mark Robinson, Jenny Wiley, Scott wien Ink all finished last

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Speaker 2: year and they each had their own reasons. They each

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Speaker 2: had their own scandals in a way, But is the

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Speaker 2: job of a sports boss becoming too much? Former Chief

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Speaker 2: executive of New Zealand Cricket Martin steads with me now Martin.

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Speaker 1: Good evening evening, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the job's harder now than it has

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Speaker 2: been in the past.

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Speaker 24: It's always been hard, but it's very visible now with

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Speaker 24: the increasing social media coverage and the ability of people

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Speaker 24: to get in their keyboard warriors and comment. From that

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Speaker 24: point of view, it is, but it's that these are

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Speaker 24: very difficult jobs. You know, sport is volatile stakeholders. The

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Speaker 24: expectations sometimes board expectations are disproportionate to what the resources

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Speaker 24: are of an organization and burnout. I think burnout is

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Speaker 24: a huge issue. So I have great empathy and a

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Speaker 24: lot of sympathy for the people that have found themselves

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Speaker 24: in the position that those three chief executives and others

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Speaker 24: have found themselves in the last few months.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned social media, which is interesting because a lot

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Speaker 2: of people say it's media, you know, your media commentators,

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Speaker 2: you know, mugs like me on the radio saying this

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Speaker 2: person that person. You know. But social media now has

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Speaker 2: changed the game, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: It has.

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Speaker 24: You know, the mainstream media is not an issue. Mainstream

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Speaker 24: media is still full of people who buy large responsible,

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Speaker 24: understand what they're writing about, and generally get it, you know,

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Speaker 24: not always totally right, but are in the ballpark. Social

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Speaker 24: media is completely different. Anyone can say what they like,

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Speaker 24: they don't understand sometimes what they're talking about. They are

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Speaker 24: vicious and you know if unfortunately it's almost impossible for

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Speaker 24: people in leadership positions to get away from that.

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Speaker 1: They can't and that has an impact.

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Speaker 24: It has an effect on their well being and it

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Speaker 24: just adds to the burden of the job they're doing.

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Speaker 2: And then you think, who would want to do it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, how much are they paid. Have

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Speaker 2: they paid enough for it?

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Speaker 24: No, they're well below market rates in other areas, but

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Speaker 24: they're still okay remuneration wise. But the reason they do

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Speaker 24: it is the passion they have, either for the particular

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Speaker 24: sport that they are leading or just sport in general.

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Speaker 24: You know, it's I invariably come across good people in sport.

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Speaker 24: You don't come across too many dads. And these are

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Speaker 24: people who are talented and who are trying desperately to

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Speaker 24: do their best in difficult circumstances. They'll make mistakes, there's

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Speaker 24: no two ways about it. And you know it's just

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Speaker 24: bloody hard work hanging in there and getting more stuff

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Speaker 24: right than getting wrong Martin.

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Speaker 2: And you know a lot of the cases that we've

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Speaker 2: started with rugby, netball, cricket, there's player input. Are players

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Speaker 2: have been given I don't want to say too much

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Speaker 2: say because it makes it sound like they're not important.

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Speaker 2: But can you listen to the players too much?

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Speaker 24: Yes, just like you can listen to any other stakeholder

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Speaker 24: too much. But I am on record, over a long

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Speaker 24: period of time, I've been a strong.

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Speaker 1: Supporter of.

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Speaker 24: Players or athletes having input into the environments they operate with.

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Speaker 24: And so if that, it's not so much power as

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Speaker 24: just the opportunity to participate, either directly or through their representatives.

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Speaker 24: And you know, for example, in cricket, the relationship between

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Speaker 24: the Cricket Players Association and New Zealand Cricket over a

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Speaker 24: long period of time from two thousand and two through

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Speaker 24: too recently has been brilliant and has led to really

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Speaker 24: strong relationships. At the moment, it's a little bit volatile

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Speaker 24: and they're going to have to work through that on

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Speaker 24: all side over the.

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Speaker 1: Next twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 24: But I think if you get that relationship right, then

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Speaker 24: the sport and the athletes, the players themselves benefit hugely.

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Speaker 24: So I would hate to see it undermined. And I

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Speaker 24: think David Kirk did a really good job last week

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Speaker 24: of explaining really clearly that the review of the All

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Speaker 24: Black Coach received feedback from players that David and his

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Speaker 24: other ends that our administrators that asked for. So it

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Speaker 24: wasn't that the players stood up and said we're demanding

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Speaker 24: the removal of Scott Robertson. They answered a whole series

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Speaker 24: of questions as to how the environment was going, and

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Speaker 24: ultimately Kirk and the others just weighed that up and

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Speaker 24: said that on balance, they didn't feel confident that under

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Speaker 24: Robertson they'd be able to keep going in a positive trajectory,

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Speaker 24: so they needed to do something about it. Well, you

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Speaker 24: know that the players are entitled to have a say

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Speaker 24: in that, and so they should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you ask them, you've got to expect

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Speaker 2: an answer, don't you.

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Speaker 24: And are close to the action, and they will tell you.

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Speaker 24: But you've got to be smart enough also when you're

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Speaker 24: in Kirk's position or a CEO's position, to actually like

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 24: any feedback to balance up what you're hearing against other

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01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 24: feedback you're receiving and find the place where the truth

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Speaker 24: most likely lies. And I have faith and lots of

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Speaker 24: our leaders to be able to do that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, well we need to find three more of

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Speaker 2: them pretty quick, smart Martin, Thank you for that. Martin Steden,

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Speaker 2: former Chief Executive New Zealand Cricket, head of the twenty

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Speaker 2: eleven Rugby World Cup, an organizing team as well, knows

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Speaker 2: what who knows a thing or two about managing sport.

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Speaker 2: It's six thirteen on news talks, he'd be We'll get

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Speaker 2: to a market update next with Jeremy Hutton from Melford.

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Speaker 1: It's the head Dupas Allen Dreve Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talk ZIBBI.

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Speaker 2: Six sixteen News Talk zib Jeremy Hutton's with US Milford

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Speaker 2: Asset Management for our market update. Jeremy, good evening, Good evening,

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Speaker 2: Row going very good. Thanks. Can we start in the

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Speaker 2: US SO market's back open overnight after the public holiday Monday.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a wobbly over Greenland and Trump.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 25: The Cell America trade was back on last night, and

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Speaker 25: the Nasdaq SMP five hundred indexes both down two percent,

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Speaker 25: and our own z X down over one percent as well.

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Speaker 25: So yeah, a bit of a wobbly, and most importantly

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Speaker 25: that US ten year bond that's broken higher, and you

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Speaker 25: know that's interest rates going up, which is never really

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01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 25: a good sign for markets, and politicians start to get

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Speaker 25: nervous too. So maybe even that rate, we'll contain some

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Speaker 25: of President Trump's tendencies at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, let's go to New Zealand and zero this

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Speaker 2: accounting software business. Of course, everyone knows that sheer price

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Speaker 2: has been under some pressure, fell under the cycologe one

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars level. What is going on?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, regarded as one of New Zealand's great companies, Zero

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 25: is going through a bit of a lean pad of

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Speaker 25: late this year. Price is almost halved from its one

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Speaker 25: hundred and ninety three dollars peak in June last year,

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Speaker 25: So in just six months it's halved, and it started

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Speaker 25: twenty twenty six pretty poorly as well, down over sixteen percent.

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Speaker 25: So yeah, painful for Zero investors generally accustomed to lots

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Speaker 25: of success, but Zero has been caught up in a

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Speaker 25: bit of this global software sell down and the sentiment's

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01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 25: really struggling. And as effectively, it's these recent AI models

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 25: and they're getting very good at producing basic and good

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 25: loocking software packages that pretty much the touch of a button.

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Speaker 25: So you know, some market commentators out there, they're even

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Speaker 25: calling it a potential existential threat to software and SaaS businesses.

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Speaker 25: So Zero is getting a little bit tied up with that.

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Speaker 25: We will follow that this year, you know, as the

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Speaker 25: AI models continue to develop and get a bit smarter,

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Speaker 25: we'll see what the impact it will have on these

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Speaker 25: software businesses.

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Speaker 2: It was also they did a big acquisition out of

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Speaker 2: the US, didn't they last year, and that hasn't been

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Speaker 2: received well either.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: More stock specific issue, but it hasn't helped the sentiment.

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01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 25: They bought this US payments business called Media paid a

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Speaker 25: princely some of two point five billion US dollars, so

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Speaker 25: a big chunky amountain and the market's given that feedback

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Speaker 25: pretty clearly that perhaps they paid a little bit too

1513
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 25: much for it. But to be fair, you know, the

1514
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 25: US it's always been been a key geography for Zero

1515
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 25: to expand into, and also payments as a technology or

1516
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 25: addition to their product. That's that's been the radar too.

1517
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 25: But perhaps they could have done it a little bit

1518
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 25: more efficiently. So the market is taking its time to

1519
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 25: digest this transaction and figure out if it was a.

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 7: Good deal or not.

1521
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 2: Jeremy, does that mean we should all go out and

1522
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: buy shares then, well that's a million dollar question, Ryan.

1523
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 25: But you know no doubt that Zera remains a very

1524
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 25: high quality company. It's got some great growth one runway

1525
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 25: ahead of it, and we know it's had a lot

1526
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 25: of success in New Zealand, Australia, in the UK. If

1527
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 25: it cracks the US market in its core accounting software,

1528
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 25: or if this payments expansion goes well, then the share

1529
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 25: price could perform really, really strongly. You know, sometimes markets

1530
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 25: get a little bit nervous and these great opportunities can

1531
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 25: pop up. But the pressure's really on on the zero

1532
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 25: management team to restore some of this confidence and get

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01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 25: and get the share price moving again.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate that, Jeremy, Thank you, Jeremy Hutton from Milford. You're

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: on News Talk They're big nineteen after six showbiz and

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01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: Netflix News for you next. We all do it. We

1537
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 2: overthink the big things like job security, mortgage rates, that

1538
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 2: lump in your neck, and the little things too. What

1539
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: night has Bin's Night? Why has cheese suddenly become a

1540
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: luxury item? But as a member of this New Zealand grown,

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Speaker 2: member owned mutual, you can rest easy knowing your future

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Speaker 2: is in good hands. MAZ is an insurance and investment mutual,

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01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: has been putting their members' worries to bed for more

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: than one hundred years, and this year, for the ninth

1545
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: year in a row, MAS members have voted them consumer

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01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: People's choice for house, contents and car insurance. MAS offers

1547
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 2: premium insurance and investment products, expert advice, exceptional service, all

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Speaker 2: with your needs at heart. So whether you want to

1549
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: grow your wealth or protective future, MAS has got your cover.

1550
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: Joined the thousands of satisfied members who trust MAS to

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01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: protect what matters most to them. Your futures in good

1552
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 2: hands with MAS, visit, MAS, dot Co, dot.

1553
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 26: Nzet, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the business

1554
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 26: hours with Ryan Bridge and MAS.

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01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: Insurance and investments. Your futures in good hands US talks.

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01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 2: That'd be six twenty three. Netflix update for you. Fourth

1557
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 2: quarter revenue increase by almost eighteen percent to twelve billion dollars.

1558
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: That's just for the quarter. They're looking now at twenty

1559
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: twenty six revenue between fifty and fifty one billion dollars.

1560
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Helped along by the likes of shows, shows,

1561
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: by the likes of Stranger Things. You know, people go

1562
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 2: on about Stranger Things very popular. No, he wants this

1563
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: which is well worth watching, and wait for it, selling

1564
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: Sunset apparently does very well for them. Now. The interesting

1565
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: thing about Netflix is that they've announced, you know how

1566
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: they want to buy Warner Brothers, the studio and the movies. Well,

1567
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: they've changed their deal from cash and shares to all

1568
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: cash baby twenty seven dollars seventy five a share, So

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01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 2: I may well yet sell mine twenty four after six.

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01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:32,440
Speaker 26: There's no business like show business.

1571
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: More trouble and paradise. I'm not talking about the Beckhams

1572
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: this time. Remember the Netflix show Well, it was actually

1573
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: a show from the two thousands, Queer Eye for the

1574
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: Straight Guy. Netflix rebooted it and the two thousands reboot

1575
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,919
Speaker 2: was sorry, rebooted it recently. From the two thousands reboot

1576
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 2: was a massive hit, made this new group household names overnight,

1577
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: but the gaggle have drifted in the past couple of

1578
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 2: years as the show has waned in popularity. Now they're

1579
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: doing press for a final season, so one last hurrah

1580
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 2: and things got a little awkward. Apparently. The latest debacle Karamo,

1581
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: who's one of the Gay Guys group's self help coach,

1582
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: pulled out of a major interview last minute because he

1583
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 2: fared being bullied by his former cast mates.

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01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 27: We received an email from Karama's assistant this morning which

1585
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 27: said in Park, well, Karamo has felt mentally and emotionally

1586
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 27: abused for years, and he's been advised by his therapist

1587
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 27: to protect himself in his peace by non attending.

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: Karamo Sorry, got the name wrong. His cast mates kept cordial,

1589
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 2: wishing Caramo, well.

1590
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 22: Were you surprised that he's not here today.

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01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 28: I think definitely a little surprised, but at the same time, like, look,

1592
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 28: we're so sorry that he's not here. We fully support,

1593
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 28: I think as a collective unit him taking care of

1594
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 28: himself and to ackle what he's saying, we're here to

1595
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 28: honor the legacy of a decade.

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01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 2: There you go. Issues amongst the group apparently been going

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: on for a few years. The interior designer Bobby He

1598
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: left the show in very dramatic fashion. I mean, as

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01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 2: anyone surprised we got five or six gays in our

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01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 2: room bitching. Come on, it's what we do. It's what

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: we do. The final season airing January twenty first, the

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01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: Queer Eye guys won't have to put up with each

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01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 2: other for much longer yet. Twenty six after six, Ryan Bridge, Hey,

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01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: you know I care well. I went there for the

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01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 2: first time the other day last weekend and wasn't too bad.

1606
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: Initially we didn't know how to get into the building

1607
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: because it's quite complicated. There is a big line of

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01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 2: cars and will let's avoid that go this way? Anyway,

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01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: we went there. It was fine, it was fine. Didn't

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01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 2: buy anything, didn't need to buy anything. But they've come

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01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: out with some numbers. So five hundred and sixty nine

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01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 2: thousand visitors between fourth December third January, so in a

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01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 2: month half a million people, not bad. How many of

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01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: those were repeat offenders forming store globally for food, So

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01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 2: we're stuffing our faces there, which I found the most

1616
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: grotesque part of the whole experience, to be honest with you,

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01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: just actually I don't like people eating in mauls in general.

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01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 2: I think it's gross. Anyway.

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01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 29: The most brought ion, well, you've got people heaving past

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 29: you like this was pat this place, people heaving past you,

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01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 29: breathing and coughing, and you're stuffing your face with a

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01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 29: hot dog.

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01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: But weird. Do it in the privacy of your own

1624
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: home would be my advice. Neus Talks.

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01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 9: It be.

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01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

1627
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: the business hour with Ryan Bridge and Mas Insurance and investments.

1628
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,680
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands. Us Talksibby.

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01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 30: You need a came over a count.

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01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 2: Pretty five away from seven News Talks. It would be

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01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: a great head company will get to the UK before

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01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 2: trop of the r over in Washington, DC. Well, Trump's

1633
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: plane Air Force one I think has now taken off

1634
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: again a new plane because the old one had a

1635
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: mechanical problem. He's getting to Davos, Switzerland for the meeting

1636
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: of the Rich people and the world leaders. Now in Washington,

1637
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: his the business continues the course, and they are doing

1638
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: a bit of a military build up in nearer well

1639
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 2: in the Middle East in anticipation of what might happen

1640
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: with Iran. And his advisors. This is a report from

1641
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal this afternoon. His advisors apparently are

1642
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: rejigging what they had initially advised him and how you

1643
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 2: might respond militarily to what's going on in Iran. Now.

1644
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: He has repeatedly privately used the word, according to this report,

1645
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: decisive when describing what effect he would like the US

1646
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: action to have on Iran. They have said could try

1647
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: and force some kind of regime change there, how will

1648
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 2: that go? Or he could target quite specifically, target the

1649
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: revolutionary Guard and try and destabilize it. I think we're

1650
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: just basically going to have to expect a rolling mall

1651
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: of Trump meddling with the world until he leaves office.

1652
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 2: Like this is a guy seventy nine years old, hell

1653
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 2: bent on being in the history books something anything, and

1654
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: he's basically going to stamp his mark on the globe

1655
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 2: until he is gone. And we are only a year

1656
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: in twenty four to seven and bread read. With interest

1657
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 2: rates falling over the course of the last year, borrowers

1658
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: have been tossing up when to fix and for how

1659
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: long as you know. In hindsight, it now looks that

1660
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: a significant number of homeowners who tried to pick the

1661
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: trough in the cycle actually missed it. Jane Tips Trainey

1662
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 2: is the herold's Willington Business Editor's been looking at this. Jane,

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: good evening. Hi, Ryan, So if you're still waiting now,

1664
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: you've waited too long, haven't you look?

1665
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 31: I mean, you never say never. As you just described,

1666
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 31: we live in a crazy world. But from what we

1667
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 31: currently see, it seems like the fixed interest rates at

1668
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 31: least it seems like they reached their bottom and around

1669
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 31: November in December they actually started tracking up. And based

1670
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 31: on the new economic data we've had come out this year,

1671
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 31: it seems like the economy is actually doing okay. We've

1672
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 31: got manufacturing as strong, services sector is strong. Seems like

1673
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 31: actually the riskers that we might have a bit more

1674
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 31: inflation than expected, which suggests it's very unlikely the OCR

1675
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 31: will fall further. So it really does seem like we've

1676
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 31: had the lowest of the rates. It seems like we've

1677
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 31: already seen them.

1678
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 2: You've been looking at how many we're trying to pick

1679
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 2: the trough. How many people were betting on rates dropping

1680
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,879
Speaker 2: further after the last OCR cut in November, right.

1681
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 31: Yeah, that's right. So the Reserve Bank collects all this

1682
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 31: mortgage data from banks, and according to that data, in November,

1683
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 31: that's for the latest time that we have it for

1684
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 31: about half of new mortgage lending done in November was

1685
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 31: floating versus fixed. So that is actually in November that

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01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 31: was a super high percentage. In fact, it was forty

1687
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 31: nine percent. That was the highest percentage on the Reserve

1688
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 31: Banks records that go back to twenty twenty one. It

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01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 31: was the highest percentage of a new mortgage lending that

1690
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 31: was floating. So, you know, that suggests to me that

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01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 31: a whole bunch of people in November thought will sit

1692
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 31: tight for a bit, will wait for interest rates to

1693
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 31: fall further. Once they do, then we'll lock in for

1694
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 31: like two years or three years, we even you know,

1695
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 31: eighteen months, but we'll just sit tight for a bit longer.

1696
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 31: So what ended up happening for those people was that

1697
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 31: in late November the Reserve Bank did cut the OCR,

1698
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 31: but the market after that was surprised by some of

1699
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 31: the Reserve Bank's commentary and interest rates actually started rising.

1700
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 31: So you know, I don't know if listeners and readers recall,

1701
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 31: but you know there was a sort of like a

1702
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 31: flurry of banks lifting their longer term interest rates in December.

1703
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 31: So for all those people who in November, there's a

1704
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 31: large portion of them waiting for the for the cuts

1705
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 31: that the OCR cut did come, but then unexpectedly the

1706
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 31: market started going north because it was surprised by the

1707
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 31: Reserve Bank's commentary. So if they did, you know, at

1708
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 31: that point want to rush to fix that would have

1709
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 31: been a pretty short time. Between the Reserve Bank cutting

1710
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:35,599
Speaker 31: the OCR in late November and banks lifting lifting rates,

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01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 31: they would have had probably only a few weeks to

1712
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 31: rush in and lock in those those rates.

1713
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 32: You know.

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01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 31: I talked to a mortgage broker and he said, yes,

1715
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 31: there was a big flurry. People did rush you know,

1716
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,600
Speaker 31: but of course you have to it is interesting to

1717
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 31: look at the starter, but you do have to look

1718
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 31: at the bigger picture. Thirty year mortgage, twenty year mortgage.

1719
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 31: You know, there are all sorts of ups and downs,

1720
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 31: but you know it's interesting. It is interesting nonetheless, and

1721
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 31: you know, if you have a big mortgage, a few

1722
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 31: percentage points does make a difference.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, what do we know what

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Speaker 2: the difference? You know, if you've got a million dollar mortgage,

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Speaker 2: would it in the scheme of things be a massive

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Speaker 2: difference to you whether you you know, whether you in November,

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Speaker 2: December or January.

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Speaker 31: So the hikes that the banks did was that they

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Speaker 31: lifted their longer term rates by about thirty basis points,

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Speaker 31: So you know that's a notable lift. I mean, it

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Speaker 31: probably depends on how price sensitive you are. And you know,

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Speaker 31: whether you were if you were part of that cohort

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Speaker 31: that was trying to time the market sitting there on floating,

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Speaker 31: you know, paying a bit more to be on floating,

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Speaker 31: waiting to pick the bottom, then you know you might

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Speaker 31: have been a bit disappointed. Probably depends on your you know,

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Speaker 31: your your view on these things as to how gutting

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Speaker 31: that would.

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Speaker 2: Be good to have you on the show as always.

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Speaker 2: Tony tips Training is the heralds Wellington Business editor and

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Speaker 2: has a store out in the Herald about all of this.

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Speaker 2: You can go and read it ended Herald dot co

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Speaker 2: do building Z nineteen to seven on News. You're on

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Speaker 2: News Talks there b coming up next we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: Gavin Gray out of the UK and at Davos, which

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Speaker 2: is where Trump is trying to get to. Attempting to

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Speaker 2: get to will get too shortly. There are there's one

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Speaker 2: of those letters going around like really rich people who

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Speaker 2: sign an open letter four hundred millionaires and billionaires. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: break down how many billionaires there are and how many

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Speaker 2: millionaires there are, but anyway, four hundred of them have

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Speaker 2: signed an open leader twenty four countries calling on global

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Speaker 2: leaders to increase taxes on the super rich. Among them

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Speaker 2: Mark Ruffalo, the actor filmmaker. He's in there, a handful

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Speaker 2: of global oligarchs with extreme wealth. This is the part

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Speaker 2: of the letter. Have brought up our democracies, taken over

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Speaker 2: our governments, gaged the freedom of our media, placed a

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Speaker 2: stranglehold on technology and innovation, deep in poverty and social exclusion,

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Speaker 2: and accelerated the breakdown of our planet. Treasure rich and

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Speaker 2: poor alike, they say, is being eaten away by those

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Speaker 2: intent on growing the Gulf between their vast power and

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Speaker 2: everyone else. Now, I don't think you can argue that

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Speaker 2: that's not happening. I think you know, everyone knows that

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Speaker 2: we've got more billionaires now than we have ever had before.

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Speaker 2: But we also have fewer people and less people in

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Speaker 2: poverty than we have ever had before. So the system works.

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Speaker 2: The system just might be working too well at one end,

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Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. The question I guess

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Speaker 2: is when is there a tipping point? Like when do

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Speaker 2: you get to the point where people are getting pitchforks

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Speaker 2: out and do you need to tax really wealthy people

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Speaker 2: to stop that from happening. I don't think we're there yet,

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Speaker 2: but I can imagine, particularly with AI, if it takes

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Speaker 2: everyone's jobs, that that day will probably come at some point,

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Speaker 2: won't it. Seventeen to two seven News Talks E B.

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Speaker 1: Crudging the numbers and getting the results. It's Way and

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Speaker 1: Bridge on the Business Hour with maths, insurance and investments,

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Speaker 1: Your Futures, Good heads us talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be It is called a siven On News Talks B.

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Speaker 2: It's going to Given Gray, UK correspondent, Given, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show. Hi there an now tell us about the

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Speaker 2: European Parliament what they're planning to do on tariffs.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, this is going to be very very interesting because

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Speaker 33: of course Donald Trump due to arrive in Davos for

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Speaker 33: the World Economic Forum, tensions running high already over his

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Speaker 33: comments about Greenland, which is now doubled down on as

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Speaker 33: well in the last few hours, saying that it's a

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Speaker 33: one way thing. He's not going back on his demand

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Speaker 33: to take Greenland and threatening some European countries with tariffs.

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Speaker 33: Those countries saying right, well, we're not just going to

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Speaker 33: stand there and take it. And it looks like the

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Speaker 33: European Parliament today will later announce it is going to

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Speaker 33: suspend approval of a US trade deal agreed back in July.

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Speaker 33: It was trade, a trade deal announced with much fanfair

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Speaker 33: with Ursula Vonderline, one of the EU big weeks as

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Speaker 33: it were, and Donald Trump. That was all after Donald

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Speaker 33: Trump threatened them with thirty percent tariffs. The agreement in

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Speaker 33: the end was fifteen percent, so yeah, slightly better but

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Speaker 33: still tariffs, and it was heralded. Is yep, everyone's now happy. Well,

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Speaker 33: the EU is not happy over Donald Trump's announcement at

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Speaker 33: Greenland and has decided right, well, we're just going to

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Speaker 33: shelve that, put it on ice and start to put

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Speaker 33: a bit of pressure on The interesting thing about this

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Speaker 33: is it may now open up questions about whether the

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Speaker 33: EU is ready to move forward mid more retaliation against

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Speaker 33: the UITs, the so called Bazooka measure, which would see

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Speaker 33: the BLOCK effectively use an anti coercion rule that it

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Speaker 33: introduced in case China got difficult with them. And this

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Speaker 33: will basically mean that American companies could be barred from

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Speaker 33: EU contracts, they could be barred from the free trade market.

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Speaker 33: And yeah, they could be retaliatory tariffs the other way as.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, keep a bridge to that one. What about

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Speaker 2: the train crow another train crash in Spain.

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Speaker 33: Yeah, and this comes just a few days afterwards that

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Speaker 33: there have been, of course, the crash on Sunday down

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Speaker 33: in southern Spain that has killed at least forty now

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Speaker 33: is the latest estimate. There is believed to be bodies

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Speaker 33: potentially still trapped in the wreckage of that crash. But

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Speaker 33: and now a train driver has been killed and at

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Speaker 33: least thirty seven others injured, five seriously, when a commuter

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Speaker 33: train derailed and crashed near Barcelona are down on the

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Speaker 33: south coast and yeah, it comes just sort of forty

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Speaker 33: eight hours on a little bit more after this crash

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Speaker 33: in the south of Spain. Now, according to local officials,

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Speaker 33: the train collided with a retaining wall which had fallen

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Speaker 33: onto the track and apparently now we understand all the

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Speaker 33: passengers have been removed from the train. But as I said,

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Speaker 33: there are five seriously injured and one dead. And it

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Speaker 33: comes as heavy storms a bat at northeastern Spain and

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Speaker 33: coastal regions, and they're on high alert because of the weather.

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Speaker 33: So this was obviously a huge emergency effort as well,

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Speaker 33: thirty five crews sent by the local fire service, and

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Speaker 33: I think the Spanish rail system very much under scrutiny

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Speaker 33: after these two crashes.

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Speaker 2: Now, finally French police have started in discipling migrant boats

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Speaker 2: on the water for the very first time.

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Speaker 33: Yes, after huge amounts of pressure from the UK. So

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Speaker 33: what the French were doing was effectively only intervening when

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Speaker 33: they see migrants on beaches ready to get on a boat.

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Speaker 33: They wouldn't physically go in the water, and that was

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Speaker 33: because the excuse being used was it might endanger the

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Speaker 33: lives of those on the journey, but because they are

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Speaker 33: already endanger in their lives by getting onto very small boats,

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Speaker 33: often unseaworthy boats, to try and cross to the UK.

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Speaker 33: The UK said, look, this is now being used and

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Speaker 33: abused to buy the people smugglers, because what they were

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Speaker 33: doing was they were launching a boat with just one

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Speaker 33: or two people on board from a canal slightly in

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Speaker 33: land and then there were simply motoring up and down

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Speaker 33: the coast and the asylum seekers would rush into the

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Speaker 33: water and then get onto that so called taxi boats

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Speaker 33: effectively and to get on there in order to get

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Speaker 33: the journey across, and the police, French police would simply

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Speaker 33: stand there and watch, saying well, we're not going in

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Speaker 33: the water, and it made people here in the UK

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Speaker 33: absolutely irate. There was even a small sort of band

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Speaker 33: of people from a society here in the UK that

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Speaker 33: went over to France and were themselves going into the water,

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Speaker 33: believe it or not, and knifing the boats, damaging the boats,

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Speaker 33: slitting the inflatable boats so that they couldn't make it across,

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Speaker 33: and they were threatened with prosecution by France. But finally,

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Speaker 33: now the French, who were paid millions of pounds a

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Speaker 33: year by the British to try and stop the boats

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Speaker 33: are actually getting into the water and starting to do this.

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Speaker 33: They actually stopped their first one. It has been announced

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Speaker 33: back at the weekend, but we've only just found this

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Speaker 33: out and Ryan, it really has been something this government's

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Speaker 33: been keen they do. But then bewill the numbers in

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Speaker 33: any way damp and down. Last year there was a

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Speaker 33: massive number of people that came to the UK from France,

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Speaker 33: standing at thirty six and a half thousand.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time giving. Thank you, Gevin Gray are UK

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Speaker 2: Europe Correspondent. It is nine to seven News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto See Allan Drive full show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 2: Who's Talk zib It is siven Away from seven now.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday we talked about the Bickhams and this whole scandal

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01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 2: that's going on. In the scandal is the Sun Brooklyn

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01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 2: posting on social media saying my mum's evil and you know,

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01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 2: ruining my relationship blubbah. Today. To be honest, I think

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01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,879
Speaker 2: the headline today has been a little misleading. The headline

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01:36:53,920 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 2: has been all day that dare David Beckham speaks out

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01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: or you know, finally breaks in silence, I think was

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01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 2: the way that they put it. What happened was he

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Speaker 2: appeared on Squawtkbox, which is a CNBC show because he's

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Speaker 2: at Davos and because he's rich and that's where they go,

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Speaker 2: and he was asked questions about social media. It was

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Speaker 2: a panel about social media. Here is what he had

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Speaker 2: to say about that.

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Speaker 16: You know, I've been able to use my platform and

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Speaker 16: my following, you know, for UNISEF, and it's been the

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Speaker 16: biggest tool to make people aware of what's going on

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Speaker 16: around the world for children, and.

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Speaker 7: I've tried to do the same.

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Speaker 16: I've tried to do the same with my children to

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Speaker 16: educate them. They make mistakes. Children are allowed to make mistakes.

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Speaker 16: That's how they learned. So that's what I tried to

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Speaker 16: teach my kids. But you know, you have to sometimes

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Speaker 16: let them make those mistakes as well.

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Speaker 2: So how did the interviewer not follow up? I mean,

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Speaker 2: maybe there was discussion later, but follow up the question

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Speaker 2: about them. Maybe they weren't allowed to and that's how

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01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 2: you get them on the show. But anyway, it was

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Speaker 2: it's quite a veiled message to Brooklyn perhaps or veiled

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Speaker 2: message about Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Depends how much you want to read into it, I guess,

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01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: and it's what are we going out to tonight?

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Speaker 34: The City by Edge Sharing the play us out tonight

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Speaker 34: because it's a big night for Wellington. Ed Shearan show

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Speaker 34: is happening at sky Stadium. The show should actually be

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01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 34: happening already in terms of the support acts, but Ed's

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Speaker 34: expected to take the stage at about eight o'clock. There's

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Speaker 34: a bit of the setlist that Ed does on this

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Speaker 34: particular tour where he does like fan requests. So he

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01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 34: actually did some reasonably interesting deep cuts at his Auckland

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Speaker 34: show and this was one of them. The City was

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Speaker 34: a track off his very first album, debut album Plus,

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Speaker 34: so he's clearly rearing and ready to go with his

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Speaker 34: whole catalog if he needs to, depending on what people request.

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Speaker 34: So it could be interesting to see what he plays

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Speaker 34: in Wellington.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, certainly would be. I hope they're enjoying the concert

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01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,120
Speaker 2: down and they're hopefully the weather is not too bad.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your evening, everybody. It's coming up to seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: here on News Talk seb back tomorrow.

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Speaker 30: Strange but your this is now my hole, My hole.

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01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 35: Gounning on the back street. Stop pissed in in the

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01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 35: back seat. I'm blazing on the street.

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Speaker 30: What I do isn't unto you the city never see

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01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 30: Send that flix to.

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Speaker 22: My lunsa.

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01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:38,759
Speaker 7: And my ears.

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01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 35: Black sound in the city like that coded my head.

1935
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 7: Do I need this?

1936
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 21: Keep me alive?

1937
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 32: The traffic, stocks and stuff, but I need to the

1938
01:39:53,320 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 32: lone lone calls me stranger.

1939
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 2: This is none.

1940
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 35: Punning on the back street. Stop piss in and the vaccine.

1941
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 35: Am lazing on the street.

1942
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 30: What I do isn't unto you, sitting never secen.

1943
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 2: That makes two.

1944
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,479
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1946
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