1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: Jason Wall's used dogs be political editors with us A Jason, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: good afternoon. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: So did the Greens and Winston have a bit of 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 2: a spat? 5 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Did they? No, they held hands and they hugged and 6 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: said that they were with the best. Of course they 7 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: had a spat. It wouldn't be Parliament with out those 8 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: two going loggerheads. It was quite an interesting one because 9 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: it started with a ministerial statement that Winston Peters gave 10 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: as Foreign Minister, and Winston started the proceedings. It was 11 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: quite pointed, I thought, have a listen. 12 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: We prefer diplomacy to moral outrage. Indeed, ours is a 13 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: foreign policy of colletting all the facts, hearing all the perspectives, 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: and applying a careful, reasonable, cool headed approach to the situation, 15 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: not knee jerk reaction and simplistic moral posturing. Those in 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: this House who rush to condemn will call out one 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: actor or other, or who demand the government to do 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: the same, should plause to reflect on whether they are 19 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: seeking to understand and influence what's going on, or simply 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: virtue signal about it. 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: Now if you're wondering who he's talking about, it didn't 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: take too long for that mystery to be solved in 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: the House. 24 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: The Green patty condemns the United States unlawful and aggressive 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: strikes on Iran, and we call on the government to 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: do the same. 27 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: So with a topic like this, these two, as I said, 28 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: were always going to clash, and that's exactly what happened. 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: And it didn't take long for Winston to respond to 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: the way that Madame and Davison was speaking to him 31 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: in some of those questions. 32 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: But I have to say, when it comes to the 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: proxies for Iran that have committed so much terrorism in 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: the loss of thousands of lives, harmas his bela, the 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: hoodies with respect to Iran, when it comes to that, 36 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: the Greens have been not a syllable lot of sound, 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: not a matter lot of murmur, no continents whatsoever. 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: And so the Green leadership didn't like that. So they 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, 40 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: before Jerry Brownly had to step in. 41 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: Yes, the Iran's people have been under forty years of 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: differents right on with superior that drag thanks five seekings 43 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: to examine it. Neither party here is running speak the 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: orum that you'd expect out of past size. But you're 45 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: not going to get her both sides to standing orders, 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 2: speakers rolling swe fifty one. 47 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: So we have the government calling for a ceasefire between 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: Iran and Israel and Jerry Browne calling for a ceasefire 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: between the Greens and New Zealand. 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: First, has Chloe been throwing shade at Chris Luckson's travel agender? 51 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: She has. I have a listened to what she called 52 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: it this morning. He him is presently offshore, swanning around, 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: swanning around. She reckons, this is the Prime minister who's 54 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: at NATO at the moment. You know, if there was 55 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: a place to be on planet Earth right now, I reckon, 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: it would probably be NATO if you're a global if 57 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: you're a world leader. Before that, he was with our 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: biggest trading partners, China, meeting at President shi Jingping, just 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: swatting around Old Chris Luxen. Yeah, I've been on dozens 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: of these trips with the Prime ministers. They don't sworn around. 61 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: They've got quite a packed agenda. And I'll tell you what, 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Nikola Willis wasn't having a bar of her comments. 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: I think the naive because it is absolutely essential for 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: New Zealanders that we are well represented on the world 65 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: stage and that involves person to person relationships with leaders. 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Defense Minister Judith Collins wasn't impressed either. 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Well, thank the Lord. 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: I'm not responsible for the Greens and their utterances, but honestly, 69 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: the Prime Minister is absolutely flat out doing the same 70 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: sort of work at NATO. 71 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: And going to visit our memorials there. I guess that's 72 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: what the Greens do when they're ever sees. So no 73 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: swaning around for these government ministers, not today. 74 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: What was it that Chloe would rather he was doing. 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe meander, maybe strutt, I don't know 76 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: which way that she thinks he should be walking. 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I thank you very much, Jason appreciate it. 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: Jason Wall's Newstalks, DB's political editor. For more from Heather 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News Talk said Be 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.