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Speaker 1: In the Bradio UK correspondence with us now high.

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Speaker 2: Enda, Heather, great to speak to you again.

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Speaker 1: Right, how did Kiyostama survive?

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Speaker 2: Basically, there's no other option and I think the Labor

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Speaker 2: Party know that at the moment. So he limps on.

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Speaker 2: He came out fighting. He's fighting for his political life.

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Speaker 2: So he gathered the Parliamentary Party together last night, all

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Speaker 2: the MPs, and he said the words I've heard he

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Speaker 2: said were as long as I've got breath in my body,

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Speaker 2: I will fight. I've never walked away for a fight

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Speaker 2: and I've never lost a fight. So fighting talk from

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Speaker 2: Keir Starmer. But I think the issue for anyone trying

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Speaker 2: to replace him is there didn't seem to be one

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Speaker 2: standout candidate who was strong enough to oust the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister yesterday, so Britain is left with a bit of

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Speaker 2: a lame duck prime minister. He also lost his head

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Speaker 2: of Comms yesterday who resigned.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so where does it go from here? Is this

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Speaker 1: is the end of it? He carries on, he limps

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Speaker 1: through to the election or is this something else to

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Speaker 1: can so?

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Speaker 2: Would you believe it? The calendar and fate are beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a by election coming up in Gorton outside

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Speaker 2: Manchester on February twenty sixth, and he decided Starmer a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago not to allow Andy Burnham, the

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Speaker 2: Mayor of Manchester, who is Labor through and through, to

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Speaker 2: run in that by election, because the suspicion was that

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Speaker 2: Andy Burnham wanted to get back into Parliament, take over

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Speaker 2: Labor and become Prime Minister. So Starmer shot that down

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Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. Labor are trailing in the polls

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Speaker 2: and I think there will be questions asked if Starmer's

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Speaker 2: leadership if Labor now lose that by election, because Burnham

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Speaker 2: would have walked it. Now the narrative seems to be

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Speaker 2: that Reform UK Nigel farasual campaigned the hell out of

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Speaker 2: that by election, and if Reformer to win that by election,

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Speaker 2: then I think people inside Labor are going to look

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Speaker 2: and think, hang on, we're going to be toasts soon

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Speaker 2: if we don't get rid of Starmer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he survives as basically just he just survives

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Speaker 1: until the nixt bit of bad news and it circles

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Speaker 1: around again and don't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, until such time as there's a clear kind of

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Speaker 2: alternative option within Labor and of course the opposition, you know,

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Speaker 2: Parage and the Conservatives, they're all making hay out of

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Speaker 2: this big time.

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Speaker 1: Which of the two scenarios is worse for him? Is

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Speaker 1: it worse for him that Burnham wins and then is

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Speaker 1: in there as a clear threat to his leadership, or

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Speaker 1: is it worse for him that Burnham loses.

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Speaker 2: I think, look, Burnham's not going to stand in that

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Speaker 2: by election now because he can't right with Labor backing.

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Speaker 2: But I think Starmar should have allowed Burnham to stand.

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Speaker 2: And if I had been advising the Prime Minister, I

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Speaker 2: would have said to him, look, come out and say

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Speaker 2: he is Labor through and through. We need the best

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Speaker 2: people in the party and the best people to run

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Speaker 2: this country. And then start talking about the fourteen years

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Speaker 2: of a mess that you inherited as opposed to everyone

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Speaker 2: just looking everywhere and going my god, look at the

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Speaker 2: potholes everywhere. Can't get a doctor's appointment, hospitals are wrecked.

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Speaker 2: So he needs to reclaim the narrative. But losing his

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Speaker 2: head of Colms yesterday was not good, not at all. Now.

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Speaker 1: The fact that Charles is that he is going to

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Speaker 1: support the police is this a warning to Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a major sign that Prince Andrew

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Speaker 2: may well end up getting arrested or spoken to police

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Speaker 2: very shortly. We've never heard language like this from the Palace.

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Speaker 2: This would never have happened when the Queen was alive. Andrew,

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Speaker 2: I think, is on a very sticky wicket now and

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Speaker 2: it's nothing to do whatever has allegedly happened with girls,

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Speaker 2: young girls and young women. This is more to do

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Speaker 2: with the financials of what he has allegedly done and

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Speaker 2: the friendship with Epstein. So the very latest thing Andrew

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Speaker 2: is now being looked at by police. He was Trade

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Speaker 2: Envoy for a few years, flying first class all over

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Speaker 2: the world, and Andrew being Andrew, there's a mess in

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Speaker 2: every country he went to. So what's come out in

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Speaker 2: the latest batch of the emails, the Epstein files is

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Speaker 2: that he was forwarding on all this sensitive within four

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Speaker 2: minutes of him receiving one email from basically someone working

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Speaker 2: for the UK government and the Palace. He'd been all

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Speaker 2: over Southeast Asia and they forwarded on country reports for investment,

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Speaker 2: the UK assessment of places like Vietnam and other countries

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Speaker 2: in Southeast Asia, and within four minutes of Andrew receiving

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Speaker 2: the email, Epstein has it in his inbox. This is

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Speaker 2: a sensitive government information, so he's being looked at for that.

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Speaker 2: And then of course in the background you have a

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Speaker 2: second woman coming forward saying she was traffic to Windsor

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Speaker 2: for sex with Andrew Windsor.

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Speaker 1: Yep, this is getting This is getting very very awkward,

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't already very bloody awkward for the royal

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Speaker 1: family in it. As always, it just goes from bed

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Speaker 1: to wiz. Really appreciate your time, mate, Indy Brady, UK correspondent.

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