1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Former Green MP Darlene Tana has finally written back to 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: the Green Party and said they will not resign from parliament. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: It is a very long letter at seven pages long, 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: and it argues that the party should not use the 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: walker jumping laws. Let's talk to them, Darlene. Hello, Darling, 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: is it not awkward being there with people who don't 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: want you there? 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you? Actually I'm quite fine. I came in 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: here to represent my communities, to uphold Modi mana Tapu 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: and that's what we're doing. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: And how do you feel about the fact that that 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: we've had public polls say most of New Zealand don't 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: want you in there. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Look again, I'm listening to my communities, Green Party members 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: and non members alike who have been constantly calling me 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: and reminding me that they actually voted Party cream for Darnine. 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: So they're the ones who are insisting that I stay 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: in here as an independent. And we've broke out our 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: game plans and that's what we're doing. 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: You say, we've worked out our game plans and you 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: got support from within the. 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Party, absolutely, absolutely, but not just within the party, within 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: within the communities. You know, I took a lot of 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 2: work working in the Gahete through to Tai Tokuto, working 25 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: in the in the ocean space out to Morning and 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: our Toy. All these ones are wanting me to do it. 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. I'm not I'm not big. 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: On talking so in party supporting you. 29 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm at liberty to name names. 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: I've been a little concerned, to be very honest with you, 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: I've taken my principal stance and dissenting with the Green 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: partty co leadership. And what I'm hearing on the ground 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: of many of my supporters is that they're feeling Ah, 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: you know, the cancel culture is a thing, and so 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to name names, but there are certainly 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: supporters out there. 37 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Is it within the Pacificagreens. 38 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm just talking generally. You know, I've had some involvement 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: with specific Agreens, but you know, Mary non Martyr, I. 40 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: Was asking them about them specifically. But because they have 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: very publicly supported you, haven't. 42 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: They well, I you know, I think they stood up 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: for what they saw were injustices against Pacific A Green. 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: I might be just a tipping point. They did talk 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: to concerns that they've held over many years, Darlene. 46 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Look, one of the reasons people think you're staying in 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: there is for the pay. Is that why you're hanging on? 48 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: No, I'm and here. I've always been a copepper driven person. 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: My fin no, my my hatpoo, my EWI know that, 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: and my community know that I will keep working to 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: restore modio of them on and now tamai key forever 52 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: and a day on spell of an oily rag. 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: If I have to do you reckon, They're going to 54 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: pull the Wacker jumping law on you in a couple 55 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: of weeks. 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: Ultimately that's going to be their decision. I've been extremely 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: guffed to be you know, have effectively a malicious campaign 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: misdisinformation against me, So you know, I'm more interested in 59 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: getting the correct information out to the party members and 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: I trust that they will just take their decisions. 61 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: How do you treate your chances though, because it feels 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: like Chloe's gearing up for the same. 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: Well, gen as I said, miss disinformation, it's a thing, 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: canceled culture, it's a thing. I don't have the gift 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: of the gab. I'm not out there. I'm more of 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: a te towel. Auntie in the background, holding the fort, 67 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: keeping everybody together, and just you know, the hands on 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: person actually doing it. So I'm not you know, I'm 69 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: not spending my time out there talking up large and 70 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: just alongside people actually doing the money. 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: If they do pull the wacker jumping legislation on you, 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: are you prepared to take this to court to fight this. 73 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: I haven't made such considerations, to be honest. I'm just 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: asking for people to you know, we really need to 75 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: think seriously about this. I mean, what does this say 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: about democracy and ladle? You know, when you have politicians 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: who are going to oust an MP who was elected 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: in by by the public, I think it's said it's 79 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: a very you know, dangerous president to be to be frank, 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: and you know, I'm going to point back to the 81 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Green Party Socker Pepper, their own you know, wise respected 82 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: leaders that are called you know Rod Donald or Jeneck Fitzimmons, 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: Matidia to Day or more recently James Shaw. You know, 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: they all talked to this. 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: How can your story change so much when they were 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: doing the inquiry into what was going on in your 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: husband's business. 88 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that I understand your question. How do 89 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: you mean my story. 90 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Change According according to the Inquirer, the lawyer who was 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: doing the inquiry, your your story would change consistently, so 92 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you would say that you didn't know anything about an allegation. 93 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: Then you would admit, oh, yeah, you did know a 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: little bit about the allegation, but actually it was him 95 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: dealing with it. And there was no consistency in what 96 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: you were saying. Why did why did it keep happening? 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: I think it didn't. It didn't, you know, I wasn't 98 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: changing my story. What I was struggling with was many 99 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: of these incid it's for happening where I was not 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: actually involved directly, and I was trying to understand what 101 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: was going on, So I needed to ask around, you know, 102 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: find emails, find text messages from others from within the 103 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: company to try to ascertain what actually happened. So as 104 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: things came to light, that's what I put onto the 105 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: table with the investigator. I refuged absolutely that my story changed. 106 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely refute that why'd you go around to one of 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: the guy's workplaces after he'd left your husband's work and 108 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: have a shouting match with them. 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: I was walking to the ferry and he was standing 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: right there, and I asked him just to you know, 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: do your money. And that was that he made a 112 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: police report about it. You can say what you like 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: in police reports. There was no further action taken, and 114 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: I didn't actually see a need to go further with 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 2: that thrown up out of proportion in the media, right, 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: And that's just one of the things that happened. 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I've never understood this was what was the allegation that 118 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: he took to the police, you know. 119 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: The allegation was that I had approached of it as 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: a place of work and said some things. 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: All right, Darling, thank you for your time, appreciating best 122 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: of luck dealing with this. Is Darling Tanner, Independent MP. 123 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: News Talks a'd B from four pm weekdays, or follow 125 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.