1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge you 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: US Talks b Good morning. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 3: It has just gone six after five year on news 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 3: Talk said b Air raid sirens are reportedly sounding across 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: central Israel. This as there are plans, according to the US, 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: of an imminent attack. We will look at that this morning. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 3: Plus Marsden Point getting a lifeline of sorts and it's 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: not oil capital gains tax. We're back into that. The 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: forgotten victims, I'll tell you who they are in this debate. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Plus Gavin Gray in the UK Marine La penn Is 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: on trial in Paris. 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: The agenda. 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: It is Wednesday, the second of October. The United States 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: has issued a statement saying it believes a ballistic missile 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: attack from Iran on Israel could be imminent. In April, 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: Arun launched drones and missiles towards Israel. So this happened 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: before many of them were intercepted before heading the ground. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: US was actively involved in helping Israel defend itself that 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: time around, and I'm told by a senior White House official, 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 4: but that is the case in this scenario as well. 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: US oil prices up three percent this morning, reaching around 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: one hundred and ten New Zealand dollars on the back 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: of that news. Cook straight fairies limping along. No plan 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: that we know are so far for a replacement, and 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: there's a risk of more fery breakdowns in the meantime right. 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: Georgina Campbell from The Herald reports that we're looking at 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 3: emergency towing options and how much they might cost us. Yes, 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: new fairies are expensive, but boy, doing nothing's expensive too. 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: Multiple children have died following a bus fire and Bangkok 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: on a school trip. The bus crashed in caught fire. 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 5: Throughout the afternoon. We've watched ambulances and trucks coming backwards 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: and forwards along this main highway, it's one of the 35 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 5: main highways into Bangkok. To retrieve the bodies from that 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: burnt bus. They retrieved twenty retrieved twenty three by twenty 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 5: of them. 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: We believe our school children. 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: Terrible news. Even Wellington City Council get this. Is pausing 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: or canning cycle ways. An upgrade between Johnsonville and Tawer 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: is on pause to make cost savings of Wellington is 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: pausing cycle ways. You know, things are really really bad. 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: The first word on the News of the Day early. 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 6: Edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture. 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 2: Beds and a play store News Talk sippy, Good. 46 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: Morning, everybody. Nice to have your company. Just gone. Eight 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: minutes after five. The Global Dairy Trade auction numbers are out. 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: We'll get to those in a second. We know we 49 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: love those quite well. Not terrible today, I have to say, 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: first though, we're looking at speed and you know the 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: Simon Brown's copying some flak for wanting to increase the 52 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: speed limits on some of our state highways, for wanting 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: to get rid of Labour's blanket ban, all that kind 54 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: of stuff. I'm just wondering, if you know, as a driver, 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: how focused are you on what you're actually doing when 56 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: you're driving, Because I know when i'm driving, not that 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: I'm on my phone, but I'm listening to the radio, 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: I'm drinking a coffee, and I'm letting the car, which 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: is very technologically advanced these days, take care of everything else. 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 3: You know, beeps when you get close to a wall, 61 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 3: beeps if you leave the road. There's medium barriers, there's 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: traffic lights, there's stop signs, these giveaway signs, there's umpty 63 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: in different abs breaking, I mean, you name it. The 64 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: bells and whistles, we've got it. Are any of us 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: actually thinking about what we're doing? How often have you 66 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: driven been on a road trip listening to a podcast 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: or maybe you're listening to news talks. He'd be and 68 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: just completely forgotten you were driving. You know, it happens. 69 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: It happens all the time. And I'm just wondering the 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: more safety measures we put in place, the more barriers 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: we put in, the more signs and bells and whistles 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: and beep, be the crapper we become at driving? You know, 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: we don't think anymore when the traffic lights go out. 74 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: Do you notice how everybody is quite courteous, you know, 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: and you're paying attention to what's going on around you 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 3: because you don't want to be hit. You're actually focused, 77 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: aren't you. So I'm just wondering, and maybe you disagree 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 3: with this, but I'm just wondering whether the more safety 79 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: measures and barriers we have in place, the worse we 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: become at driving. Ten after five Ryan Bridge nine two 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: is the number to text. We love your feedback. On 82 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: that this morning. Don't text while you're driving, please. Their 83 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: global Jerry Trade results are out. This is our fortnightly results. 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: Up one point two percent overall, which is good because 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: we had a big dip a couple of weeks back. 86 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: You'll remember butter down slightly one point four percent, Mozzarella 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: down seven point seven percent, and I've got to store 88 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: for you this morning about mozzarella. The good news is 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: that whole milk powders this is our big stuff. Whole 90 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: milk powder is up three percent. Skim milk powders down 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: slightly at zero point six percent. The mozzarella thing is 92 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: really interesting. Can you make mozzarella cheese and call it 93 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: dairy without cows? We'll look at that shortly soon. It 94 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: is eleven after five Newstalks EDB. 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 6: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 96 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and 97 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 6: applying store News Talk. 98 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: Zed B two is the number to text fourteen minutes 99 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: after five on News Talks dB Ryan. Most people drive 100 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: at one hundred and ten kilometers an hour on the motorways, 101 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: so why don't we just make that the speed limit? 102 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: I suppose that's one way to argue it, isn't it? 103 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: Sim and Brown? Looking at increasing on some motorways speed 104 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: limit to one hundred and twenty kilometers an hour. It 105 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: does feel good when you go faster, doesn't it. Ryan, 106 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: I'm never going to be a passenger in your car. 107 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: I wouldn't either, Honestly, I wouldn't be a passenger in 108 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: my car. Unfortunately, some people don't have a choice. Nine 109 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: two nine two is the number to text. We're talking 110 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 3: about speed limits this morning. Also, this really bizarre story 111 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: that keeps popping up about and this is from the 112 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: Green Building Council on Aaron Zid yesterday about them filleding 113 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: calls from people who've got brand new apartments and they're overheating. 114 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: What is up with that? And we're looking at our 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: consenting laws obviously and what needs to be done. There's 116 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: a review going on. But apparently what's happening is they're 117 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: building apartments. They are up to their eyeballs and pink 118 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: bats and then they have a tiny little crack that 119 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: they allow the windows on the second floors to open 120 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: because of safety someone might fall out of it. So 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: you've got really a pink bats up the wazoo, a 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: really hot room and very little ventilation. If you're in 123 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: one of those times, I feel sorry for you. Nine 124 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 3: two ninety two. It is a quarter past five am Bridge. 125 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: So this developing news out of the US this morning 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: to do with the Middle East. Officials there believe Iran 127 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: could be preparing to imminently strike Israel with a ballistic missile. Now, 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: there have been reports in the last few minutes of 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: air sirens sounding in central Israel. Will keep you up 130 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: to speed with what's happening there. First, though, we're going 131 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: to Danielle McLoughlin, a US correspondent political commentator, because there 132 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: is a vice presidential debate happening in the US today. 133 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: But first, Danielle, what is the latest from the White House? 134 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 7: Right Ryan? So, you know, typically for any US administration, 135 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 7: they have said that they're tracking events very closely, of course, 136 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 7: and they're committed to Israel's defense. What that likely means 137 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 7: is the same thing that happened back in April, where 138 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 7: there was another attack that came from inside Iran, and 139 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 7: the US defense forces, both by ship and by air, 140 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 7: helped get rid of about three hundred drones and missiles 141 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 7: basically shoot goes down before they got close to Israel. 142 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 7: So if it comes to that, the US will step 143 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 7: in a defensive role. 144 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. The other big thing happening in the US, of course, 145 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: is this, what's the final debate in the election? JD. 146 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: Vance and Tim Walls, because the Trump Harris campaigns aren't 147 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: doing another one. 148 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 7: No, Well, Kamala Harris has said, you know, I'm up 149 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 7: for it, and Trump has currently said that he's not. 150 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 7: I think that choice may depend ultimately on how Vance 151 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 7: does tonight against Waltz. You've got this really sort of interesting, 152 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 7: really really different couple of guys, right, You've obviously got 153 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 7: Republican versus Democrat. You've got a Yale law school grad 154 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 7: and former private equity guy versus a former public school 155 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 7: teacher and football coach. You know, very different in their approach. 156 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 7: Vance is very much a kind of a firebrand and 157 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 7: in a lot of ways is more conservative than Trump, 158 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 7: whereas whereas Waltz is a little bit more moderate. You know, 159 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 7: he seems kind of like nice, sort of older white guy. 160 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 7: I had to put it that way, but it's true, 161 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 7: and he's going to be aiming for the middle because 162 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 7: some people see Carmel Harris as too far right, as 163 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 7: left to progressive. 164 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: People hate Varn saying. 165 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 7: He is the least liked the vice presidential candidate in 166 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 7: the last thirty years, even LEAs like even less liked 167 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 7: than Sarah Palin, which is saying. 168 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Is saying something. Do you think people are going to 169 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: watch this debate? Because I was having a look at 170 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: the audience size. There was sixty seven million for the 171 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: Trump Harris debate, and the VP debates typically don't do 172 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: that well, although Palen, you mentioned Palin Biden in two 173 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: thousand and eight, that was the biggest audience for a 174 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: VP debate ever, because obviously everybody wanted to see what 175 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: Sarah Palin was going to say. Do you think maybe 176 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: because Vance is so disliked, that people might tune in 177 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: just to see what happens. 178 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 7: Suggesting there's going to be some hate watching. Ryan, Hey, 179 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 7: I actually think you make a really good point, and 180 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 7: I don't mean to overstate, but I do think these 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 7: two are going to make a difference to the presidential 182 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 7: candidates in ways that we really don't see that often. Right, 183 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 7: Normally VP picks are pretty safe, but these guys are, 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: you know, a little especially with Dvance really kind of 185 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 7: out of the mainstream, and for someone who used to 186 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 7: be a vocal vote Trump critic, he's gone really far, 187 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 7: actually further out to the right than Trump has himself. 188 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 7: So his attacks cat ladies, you know, his attack Taylor Sworth. 189 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 7: He's repeated these crazy things about people eating pets in 190 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 7: the Midwest. I think there is more bars about this 191 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 7: than in normal years, when you know, the VP doesn't 192 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 7: feel like it matters. 193 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you might be right there, Danielle, 194 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time. Daniel McLoughlin. You 195 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: is correspondent political commentator out in New York City. 196 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: News and Views you trust. 197 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 6: To start your day, It's early edition with Ryan Bridge 198 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 6: in Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store. 199 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: News Talk ZIB. 200 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: Twenty one after five. Welcome back. So I'm going to 201 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: tell you in just a few moments after just before 202 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 3: the news at five thirty, actually, I'm going to tell 203 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: you who I think has been forgotten in this capital 204 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: gains tax debate. We're also going to chat to Gavin 205 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: Gray out of the UK at a quarter to six 206 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: this morning. Marine la pen Is on trial in Paris. 207 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: Also James McKenzie he's the Routers Bureau chief for Israel 208 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: and Palestine. We'll get the latest out of the Middle 209 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 3: East in just a few moments. Twenty one after five, 210 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: Brian Bridge, A new biorefinery at the Marsden Point Energy 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: Precinct is being proposed. This is never knows. Marsden Point 212 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: Channel Infrastructure has announced it's enterday conditional project development agreement 213 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: with Sedra Energy. It would utilize some of the oil 214 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: refinery's decommissioned assets, which would be refurbished and reconfigured, and 215 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: it would take up approximately eighteen to twenty hectares of 216 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: land at the site. So it is good news, some 217 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 3: reprieve for Northland. Brian as the Bio Energy Association Chief executive, 218 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: he joins me this morning, Good morning, Brian, good morning, 219 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: how are you. I'm well, thank you. How hard is 220 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: it to convert an oil refinery into a biorefinery. 221 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 8: Oh, that's quite commonly done around the world, although normally 222 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 8: it's done with an operating refinery, and unfortunately this one 223 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 8: was decommissioned and pulled apart, so this makes it a 224 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 8: lot harder to put it back together. But on the 225 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 8: other hand, I suppose it's lately goo. You know, you've 226 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 8: started fresh and you do different things. 227 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: Any idea how big this might be, how many jobs 228 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: that kind of thing. 229 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 8: No, the aspect of what we're looking at here is 230 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 8: very early days and I don't know the detailed specific 231 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 8: in myself, but in general I can comment. And the 232 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 8: aspect of where we're going is that as we have 233 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 8: to replace petroleum type materials, whether it's for fuels with 234 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 8: a bio fuel, or whether it's plastic moving to bioplastics, 235 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 8: all of these require the processing of the organics or 236 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 8: the biomass into a material that is then able to 237 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 8: be used as either that fuel or as a plastic 238 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 8: or any other bio based material. 239 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: What sort of organics are we typically using? 240 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 8: Look, we're not sure. I don't know enough about what 241 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 8: they are proposing on this, and I think for my 242 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 8: reading of it, it's very early days also for themselves. 243 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 8: But the aspect is we could use the natural resources 244 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 8: that New Zealander is rich for the biggest part of 245 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 8: course is biomass from trees. And you know a tree 246 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 8: is a collection of chemicals that are holding hands in 247 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 8: a way which looks like a tree. We pull them 248 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 8: apart and we can repackage them to look like a 249 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 8: plastic handbag or something like this. So the aspect is 250 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 8: that we can look at quite small ones. There are 251 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 8: people around New Zealand already who are doing this on 252 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 8: a small scale. 253 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: Go both isn't the problem though it's quite hard to 254 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 3: get to these trees, quite a labor intensive thing to do, 255 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: and to drag them out of the forest and take 256 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: them down to a biorefinery. 257 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 8: Well, you don't actually have any option as if you 258 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 8: think about how if we don't have petroleum and it's 259 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 8: one day for whatever reason we won't have it or 260 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 8: it'll be too expensive, then what are your options? And 261 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 8: you don't have any other options? So it's a better 262 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 8: of it's not a better cost. 263 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Brian, thank you very much for your time. 264 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: It's Brian Cox. Here's the Bio Energy Association executive officer 265 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: with us this morning talking about I mean it is 266 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: got some good news for Marsden Point, the energy precinct 267 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: that could go from oil to biomass. It has just 268 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: gone twenty five minutes after five. If you're on Newstalks, 269 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: here'd beat nine to nine two is the numbers of 270 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: text coming up next? Why businesses Are they forgotten victims 271 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: in this whole capital gains tax debate? 272 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 6: The early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 273 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 6: by NEWSTALKSB. 274 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: It is twenty seven half to five year on News 275 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 3: TALKSB this morning. Great to have your company. So Luxeon's 276 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: back in the news, so's Jacinda. Actually this is a 277 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: Bryce Edwoods piece written about our MPs. So apparently own 278 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: two point two homes per MP, more than most of us. 279 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: Jasindra Adern made more than three hundred k while she 280 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: was in office selling a property our prime minister. Luxeon 281 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: has made close to half a million dollars in capital gain. 282 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: I should say we don't know what he's spent on them. Now, 283 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: let's really talk about a capital gains tax, because we 284 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: essentially have one on investment property. It's the bright line test. 285 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: You can argue over how long that should be, and 286 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: governments have changed this from red to blue, you know, 287 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: ten to two years. So let's sideline property for just 288 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: a second and talk about businesses. Do you really think 289 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: it's fair to tax the gain on sale of a business? 290 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: Business owners take huge risk, They work incredibly hard, and 291 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 3: I'm not saying we don't, but they do work incredibly hard. 292 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: There's the stress, the late nights, the untold hours of 293 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: lost sleep. They employ people, they pay them, they pay 294 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: tax on their earnings as they go. They help support jobs, 295 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: They grow the economy. They provide that tax base that 296 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: we so desperately need for hospitals and education, et cetera. 297 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: And then when they finally are either burnt out or 298 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: wanting to move on and grow something else, bang, we 299 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 3: hit them with a tax on the sale of their business. 300 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: That doesn't seem fair to me. We need people to 301 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: invest confidently into their businesses and grow them for the 302 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: benefit of all of us. I don't think a capital 303 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: gains tax on businesses will achieve that. And bread rich, 304 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: I would love to know your thoughts. Twenty nine minutes 305 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: half to five nine two ninety two is the number 306 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 3: to text mozzarella cheese in Israel. Story out of the 307 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: BBC this morning. They're making it without dairy without cows. 308 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: Can you have mozzarella cheese without a and call it 309 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: dairy without a cow? I don't think so. Does it 310 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: present an existential threat to our mozzarella cheese? We'll talk 311 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: about that a little bit later on too. Plus the 312 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: latest out of the Middle East and Gavin Gray in 313 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: the UK. 314 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition 315 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 6: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. 316 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: News Talk Sibby. 317 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: Good Morning New Zealand, that is twenty four away from 318 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: six year on news Talk said, be lots of your 319 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: feedback coming in on the capital gains tax. Will get 320 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: to that shortly the morning. Right now, if you're just 321 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 3: joining us, it's all going off in the Middle East again. 322 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: Iran is, according to the ABC, going to launch two 323 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 3: hundred and forty to two hundred and fifty missiles into Israel. 324 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: This attack, according to the White House, is going to 325 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: happen imminently now. The US Embassy in Tel Aviv has 326 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: issued a shelter in place warning for its staff. There 327 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: some context around this. It's happened before, so Iran has 328 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: directly fired missiles and used drones against Israel back in April. 329 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: That was the first time they had done it. Then 330 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of those were intercepted before they managed 331 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: to hit Israeli soil. So the United States is working 332 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: with its ally in the region, Israel, to try and 333 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: make sure that that happens again. Essentially that the defense works, 334 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: that the safety works, that the Iron Dome protects Israel 335 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 3: from these anyway, We're going to our Middle East correspondent 336 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: this morning, who is an Israel that is coming up. 337 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: Just before six Ryan Bridge. 338 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: Right now, We're going to our reporters around the country. 339 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: We start and Dunedin with Cullum proct to. Cullum calls 340 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: for the government to be transparent about the Dunedin hospital blowout. 341 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 9: Yr Morning, Ryan. This is from klufther Meyr Brian Kadogan. 342 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 9: He's come out swinging today over the matter. He says 343 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 9: people of the South have the right to see the 344 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 9: details of the so called three billion dollar hospital cost 345 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 9: blowout and that's last week by the government. He says 346 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 9: the figures should be there for the public to see. Also, 347 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 9: the Dunedin City Councils published a full page open letter 348 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 9: in the local paper here today addressed to the politicians 349 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 9: at Wellington. Are they calling on them to listen to 350 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 9: the people of the South and build what was promised? 351 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 9: Meror Jill's Radics says they're not ruling out further protest action. 352 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: How's your weather today, Clem, It's. 353 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 9: Not a good to heavy rain watch here for tomorrow. 354 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 9: But the rain develops this morning with a southerly around midday. 355 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 9: Are high today of fourteenth. 356 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: Right, thank you, Claires and christ Church this morning. Clear. 357 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: The families of the CTV building collapse coming to the 358 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: Council today, That's right, Ryan. 359 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 10: The group is addressing Council today with concerns over proposed 360 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 10: building consent changes. Of course, one hundred and fifteen people 361 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 10: died when the CTV building pancakes and the earthquake. The 362 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 10: government's proposing to overhaul the consenting process, which sees different 363 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 10: interpretations across the country. The concern from the CTV Families Group, though, 364 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 10: is that shortcuts could be taken and that could lead 365 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 10: to another disaster. Family spokesperson man Al Casey will address 366 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 10: Council today and Engineering in zed Disciplinary Committee just last 367 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 10: week upheld a complaint against Alan Ray, whose company designed 368 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 10: the building as well. 369 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 3: Right. How's your weather, Claire, cloud. 370 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 10: Increasing, A bit of rain on the forecast this evening, 371 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 10: northeasterlies and a high of eighteen. 372 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: The rains that are a common clear. Thank Hugh Maxis 373 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: and Wellington max The interesting article in the Herald this 374 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 3: morning about the fairies. It's how do we tow them? 375 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 11: Yeah, how do you solve a problem like the end 376 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 11: of Islander? Nikola willis away Back told us the government 377 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 11: would have a solution by the end of September. Now 378 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 11: the expectation is before the end of the year. It Meanwhile, 379 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 11: Treasury officials warning us the likelihood remains of incidents in 380 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 11: the cooks straight breakdowns, equipment failures, power outages, and that 381 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 11: our ability to respond is limited. Treasury Ministry of Transport 382 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 11: want to look at a business case to investigate, as 383 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 11: you say, emergency towing possibilities. Maritime is understandably worried and 384 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 11: so you've got officials discussing what options remain after the 385 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 11: previous multi billion dollar deal was scrapped, the concern whether 386 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 11: it's would be good for money. What's left? We talked 387 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 11: last week about the push for any new ferries to 388 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 11: be rail enabled. The final call on all of this 389 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 11: will lie with ministers in probably the next month or two. 390 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: All right, thank you for their weather in Wellington today. 391 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 11: Mix partley, cloudy with some stronger northeries, a high of 392 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 11: sixteen in the city. 393 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: All right, thank you. Neva is an with us this morning. 394 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: Good morning, good morning, lovely to see you. Yes, the 395 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: overnight parking, so we're all going to have to pay 396 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: for the parking or what. 397 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 12: Well, this is going to be good news because it 398 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 12: has been delayed and I think some Auckland has a 399 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 12: lot of Auckland's will be happy about that. This is 400 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 12: about the new overnight parking charges and the CBD. Now 401 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 12: they were due to come into force yesterday. This is 402 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 12: where previous parking had been free outside those peak hours 403 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 12: of eight am to six pm or now at well, 404 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 12: they had delayed the changes back in May, right, that 405 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 12: was back in May, also apologizing to be Wayne Brown 406 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 12: over inadequate communication because Wayne Brown was like, come on, 407 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 12: what's going on here? Communicate? So now in a statement 408 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 12: at says that the latest delay now this is about 409 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 12: allowing all the feedback to be heard on a suitable proposal. 410 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 12: So they're not going to make a decision until December 411 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 12: at the earliest. So that's good because yeah, like as 412 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 12: you say, there's a lot of those apartments, residential apartments 413 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 12: that are affected because you know, if you've got two 414 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 12: cars and there's only one park and you know one 415 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 12: has to park outside, so you know you bag it. 416 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 3: Aren't you you are? You are nineteen away from six? 417 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: How is the weather in Auckland today now? 418 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 12: Sat a chowers turning to raye tonight possibly heavy. Then 419 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 12: we've got these strong northeasterlies gusting this afternoon. Nineteen is the. 420 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: High brilliant, Thank you very much if you're just joining us. 421 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: The Israeli Defense Forces are tweeting that all Israeli civilians 422 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: are in bomb shelters right now as rockets from Iran 423 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 3: are being fired at Israel. So there are reports now 424 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: from the IDF that rockets are being fired from Iran 425 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: into Israel. We're going to talk to our Gavin Gray 426 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 3: next out of the UK. But James mackenzie is the 427 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 3: Reuters bureau chief for Israel and Palestine. 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Right now, though, we're going to 452 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: Gavin Gray, our UK europe correspondent. The UK government they're 453 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: chartering a commercial flight to help get Brits out of Lebanon. Yep. 454 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 13: Round they're up to six thousand UK nationals in leben 455 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 13: and some of course won't want to leave, and others 456 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 13: are still catching the few remaining commercial flights that are 457 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 13: out there. But this is the first of what potentially 458 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 13: could be several chartered flights by the British government. The 459 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 13: British Government will pay for them. They'll depart from Beirut, 460 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 13: but British Nationals are then going to be asked to 461 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 13: be paying a fee of sort of seven hundred and 462 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 13: fifty eight hundred New Zealand dollars per seat. You can, 463 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 13: if you're a British national or dependent living in Lebanon, 464 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 13: request the space on the flight, and any non British 465 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 13: dependents board in the flight will require a visa. British 466 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 13: nationals and also for their spouse and partner. Children under 467 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 13: the age of eighteen are eligible to take it. Those 468 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 13: who are vulnerable, elderly or indeed with children will have 469 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 13: a priority. And the plane we believe is scheduled to 470 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 13: leave roughly twenty four hours time from Beirut back to 471 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 13: the UK and I imagine it'll be very popular as 472 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 13: things get very uncomfortable. 473 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's certainly hitting up, isn't it. Marine Lapin very quickly. 474 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 3: What's happening with her, the far right leader in France. 475 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 13: Yeah, So a trial expected last up to two months 476 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 13: has begun with the Marine La Penn and twenty other 477 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 13: senior figures in her far right National Rally party in France. 478 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 13: They're accused of hiring assistants who worked on their own 479 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 13: party affairs rather than for the European Parliament, and it 480 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 13: was the European Parliament who's been paying their salary. Now, 481 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 13: if found guilty, she could face fines and imprisonment, but 482 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 13: also potentially be declared ineligible to run for office for 483 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 13: up to ten years, and that, of course Ryan will 484 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 13: seriously dent her presidential ambition. 485 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: Certainly. Well, thank you so much for that. That is 486 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: Gavin Gray, a UK europe correspondent, just gone thirteen minutes away. 487 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: From six Ryan Bridge. 488 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: So the Israeli Defense Force is reporting right now that 489 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: rockets are being filed, missiles are being fired from Iran 490 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: into Israel being intercepted by the Iron Dome. 491 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 14: The sky is above us are lighting up. We are 492 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 14: seeing Israeli Iron Dome interceptors and they appear to be 493 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 14: shooting down some of these missiles as they streak over 494 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 14: the skies of northern Israel. 495 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: James McKinzie is the ROYCES Bureau chief for Israel and Palestine. 496 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 3: He's with US Live this morning. James, Welcome to the show. Hello, 497 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: tell me what's happening at the moment. 498 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 15: Well, yes, as you were hearing this is a missile, 499 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 15: Barratt has been going on the sirens, sounding warning alerts 500 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 15: being sent out to people's mobile phones to take cover 501 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 15: and go to the shelters. This is, you know, the 502 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 15: second attack by Iran, an early one in April, and 503 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 15: this is happening in the moment. It's a little difficult 504 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 15: to tell exactly what the impact has been. Certainly we 505 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 15: can hear booms, which are the typical when the when 506 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 15: the aerial defense system hits these missile. You know, we 507 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 15: canne the sirens, and you know, we're really just sort 508 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 15: of waiting to see how it's all in the playout. 509 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, as you say, it is, it is early days. 510 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: It's only just happened in the last sort of ten 511 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 3: to fifteen minutes it started. But how big of a 512 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: deal is it given that that you know, Iran has 513 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 3: done this before in April, as you said, most of 514 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: the missiles were intercepted. 515 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 15: Well, it's a very big deal in a sense, almost 516 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 15: regardless of whether the you know, of how successful area 517 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 15: defense system is, because you know, the first, the first 518 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 15: time this happened, not no significant damage was or very 519 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 15: little significant damage was caused, and you know, they seem 520 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 15: to be sort of tacit agreement to let it slide 521 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 15: is well, you know, struck back also in a kind 522 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 15: of limited way. But I think if it happens again, 523 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 15: then mistakes are definitely raised. We've already seen, you know, 524 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 15: really sharp up together essentially the beginning of a war 525 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 15: in Lebanon. You know, very very heavy is rarely air strikes. 526 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 15: This morning a ground incursion by commandos. Move the silent 527 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 15: background is now U And I think you know this 528 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 15: is you know, a very potentially a very dangerous step 529 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 15: up from that. You know, we're gonna have to see 530 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 15: what they decided to do, but you know, I think 531 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 15: this is definitely a very serious step. 532 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: James, where are you right now? 533 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 15: I'm in our office in Jerusalem and I'm where you 534 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 15: can maybe hear the hear the siren? 535 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you not in a bombshell or are you 536 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: just in your office? 537 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 15: Well, we have it. We have a we have a bombshell, 538 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 15: so that in our office. 539 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: That's why I am And and can you tell me 540 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: do you think Israel is feeling I don't know if 541 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: emboldened is the right word to respond, but after obviously 542 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 3: taking out in israela and you know, going after his billa, 543 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: do you think that perhaps Israel's response to Iran, you know, 544 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: to these attacks might be stronger, might be different. 545 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 15: I think so. I mean, it does seem, you know 546 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 15: that they were for a long time as well as 547 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 15: been kind of on the back foot over the you know, 548 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 15: the very the very critical you know, the world reaction 549 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 15: to you know, the campaign in Gaza with you know, 550 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 15: which has caused these these these huge number of casualties 551 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 15: can caused so much damage. I think you know that 552 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 15: that the sort of public moves been very much, you know, 553 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 15: from Israeli point of view, the successful operations that have 554 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 15: been having in on you know, the assassination of all 555 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 15: these you know, essentially the decapitation of the edible movement, 556 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 15: the leader, the raft of other you know, I think. 557 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 3: I think we might be losing James there. That is 558 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 3: the voice of James mackenzie. He's the Reuters bureau chief 559 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: for Israel and Palestine. Are currently sheltering in a bomb 560 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: shelter inside the router's office in Jerusalem talking to us there. 561 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: The sirens you can hear in the background are air 562 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: sirens from warning of other imminent or a current strike 563 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 3: from Iran. We're hearing from the Israeli Defense Force that 564 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: at least one hundred missiles have been launched just in 565 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: the last ten to fifteen minutes from Iran into Israel. 566 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: It is eight to six News Talks AB. 567 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 6: The news you need this morning and the in depth 568 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 6: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 569 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 6: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store. 570 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. 571 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: Five away from six on News Talk ZB We've been 572 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: debating this morning the capital gains tax. Is it fair 573 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: on businesses? Bob says no, not fear to slap a 574 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: business owner with a capital gains text when they try 575 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: to sell, and Others says absolutely, we all pay text. 576 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they? Aren't you bored of this? Were capital 577 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: gains tax? I'm so bored of it? 578 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 6: No? 579 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: Why? 580 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: Well, because it's going to happen. It's inevitable. No, it's not. 581 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: It is We're going to have a capital gains tech 582 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: well we already have one, really because the gap between 583 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: the wealth gap is increasing and when it does us 584 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 3: fix it. 585 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 16: No, No, is it inevitable. 586 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: Because it's that's politics. Stop parroting the labor parties. No, No, 587 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm just saying 588 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 3: I think it will. 589 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 16: I reckon there's a risk, and this is what this 590 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 16: is the view that I'm starting to form. I reckon, 591 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 16: there's a risk that we've harped on about this thing 592 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 16: for such a long time that it's actually got so 593 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 16: boring that it doesn't happen. 594 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: You mean, like climate change, kind of like you get 595 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 3: over the hump of it and then you're on the 596 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: other side. 597 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 16: I think we've held out with white knuckled the hard 598 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 16: but here and the indication of that is that the 599 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 16: Labor Party itself, who have been banging on about this 600 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 16: for like a decade, have now finally stopped talking about 601 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 16: this in lieu of talking about a capital a capital 602 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 16: income test. They're relabeling it and talking about a wealth tax. 603 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 16: And so they themselves have moved on from this god 604 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 16: awful boring topic like mobot. 605 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: I look, I agree with you, I agree with you, 606 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: and I've been through that. I've went through that election 607 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: campaign when you know the Labor Party was pushing it 608 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: with golf and whatnot, like, oh god, you're flogging a 609 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: dead horse. It will happen at some point. 610 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 16: Okay, well we'll take a bet. 611 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: We'll take a bit. Yeah, I don't come up the 612 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: game that all of you your house, the game that 613 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 3: justin made, the game that lacks and made. Who's on 614 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 3: the show today, Listen. 615 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 16: This Iranian situation is definitely a massive escalation and the 616 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 16: very thing we've been worried about, like the hope was 617 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 16: around would be all hot air as they always are. 618 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 16: But they have fired the missiles. 619 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: Does the spring the US? 620 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 16: And we're going to after seven o'clock talk to a 621 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 16: Middle East journalist and find out what their take is. 622 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: Brilliant Heatherworth the next. That is it for me for today. 623 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: Have a fantastic one c tomorrow. 624 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: For more from Newstalk st B. 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