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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from newstalk Ed B.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to James mcconey. Are your European tickie tourists? Continuing?

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Speaker 3: Where do we find you today?

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Speaker 4: I'm on the northern tip of Denmark visiting some great Danes,

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Speaker 4: some old friends of mine who I met when I

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Speaker 4: was on MYI in Maidstone, south of London and Kent.

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Speaker 4: So all those years ago me and the Danes forms

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Speaker 4: formed a pretty strong bond over malely Jim Carrey movies.

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Speaker 4: That was there where we basically decided, okay, we're going

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Speaker 4: to be friends for life.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, did you and your friends for life

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Speaker 2: from Denmark get in front of a TV to watch

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks at all?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I managed to fire up the laptop and watch the

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Speaker 4: test which possibly is it an instant classic? I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to say when the All Blacks lose that

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Speaker 4: that's the case, but I think it might be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a terrific test match. Yeah, and look, most of

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Speaker 2: the feedback we've had today on the show has been

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Speaker 2: about the last sort of ten to fifteen minutes the

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Speaker 2: yellow card to offer to all the FARSI in the

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Speaker 2: way that the spring Box took advantage and sort of

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Speaker 2: rolled over the top. What are your main takeaways if

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Speaker 2: I can use that cliche.

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Speaker 4: One is I feel like the Springboks are going to

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Speaker 4: lift a gear between World Cup years now. They used

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Speaker 4: to phone it in every now and then and probably

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Speaker 4: leave a few of their big stars untroubled until they

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Speaker 4: really needed them in that, you know, sort of nine

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Speaker 4: months before cycle, you know, so that was the way

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Speaker 4: they played it.

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Speaker 5: But now it just feels that intensity lift.

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Speaker 4: We've got something that rivals really stay of origin intensity now,

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Speaker 4: And I mean we've had Springbok tests like that.

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Speaker 5: But they're not always like that.

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Speaker 4: So if this is what is going to happen, then

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Speaker 4: I think I'm all for it because I think it's

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Speaker 4: going to breathe life into rugby.

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Speaker 5: Second thing is you could see Brown's.

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Speaker 4: Handprints all over that spring Box team, some of those

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Speaker 4: innovative moves.

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Speaker 5: Off a line out.

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Speaker 4: There was just a real sort of brown Esque kind

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Speaker 4: of vibe to the way they play the game and

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Speaker 4: attacked wholeheartedly with a ball in hand near the end.

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Speaker 4: And my third takeaway is probably that the bomb squad works,

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Speaker 4: and why have we not tried to copy it it

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Speaker 4: just if you're bringing its Absteencamp, Vincent Coch, Quaker Smith,

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Speaker 4: Malcolm Marx off the bench and they are doing the damage.

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Speaker 5: Are we really stuck.

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Speaker 4: In an old style of thinking, which is a bench

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Speaker 4: that just plugs every gap? And are we not thinking

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Speaker 4: enough about impact rather just more about cover.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting because last weekend or sorry, two weekends ago,

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Speaker 2: the last test News You'll played Eden parkingst Argentina. They

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Speaker 2: did bring on five at the same time, but it's

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Speaker 2: a very different situation.

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Speaker 3: They were well clear by then.

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Speaker 2: It was almost like, okay, let's tempted the bench and

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Speaker 2: give some guys some minutes. Do we need to do

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Speaker 2: we need to embrace more. Even though we sort of

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Speaker 2: tend to say yes, it's now a twenty three man game,

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Speaker 2: should we now actually believe that it is a twenty

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Speaker 5: That that's the difference. I think I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we've quite understood what RUSSI has been

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Speaker 4: doing all these years, which is basically sending people on

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Speaker 4: to win games and you know, tooth and nail. However,

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter how it looks, they will They're going on

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Speaker 4: to finish the job. Whereas I think the All Blacks

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Speaker 4: they'll be in an untouchable situation with with you know,

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes to go. But that's test rugby really and

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Speaker 4: that's why I feel like Russi is the master. And

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Speaker 4: to be honest, the most impressive Bomb squad member for

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Speaker 4: me was Auric Low.

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Speaker 5: He made a run from it from a kickoff. Did

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Speaker 5: you see that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, three or four players and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: this guy twenty four years old, six ft five loves forward. Okay,

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Speaker 4: South Africa, we get it. And there's talent there as

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Speaker 4: well at ten and fifteen. I think, which that we

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Speaker 4: haven't seen before, that could be you know, could actually

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Speaker 4: take them through the more World Cups's that's the danger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, Well, well look see, I look forward to

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Speaker 2: seeing how the All Blacks regroup ahead of Cape Town

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Speaker 2: a week from now. Other bits and pieces floating around today,

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Speaker 2: Chris Wood got another goal. That's seventy one in the

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Speaker 2: Premier League now, more than Eric Kintina.

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Speaker 3: He's starting to get up into rare a fight.

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Speaker 4: Air oo ah Chris Wood, Yes, who are Cantona. He

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Speaker 4: going past Eric Canton is crazy for me. But the

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Speaker 4: one thing that I think Kuwies need to appreciate with

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Speaker 4: Chris Wood is that if Nottingham Forest Stay avoid relegation,

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Speaker 4: it'll be because of Chris Wood and no other player.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think you can say more about Chris

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Speaker 4: Wood in the sense that I, you know, seeing somebody

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Speaker 4: put an entire team, an entire club, famous club, European

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Speaker 4: Cup winning club on his shoulders is just something to

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Speaker 4: behold really, and that's I think that's going to be

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Speaker 4: his you know, his calling card for years is that

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Speaker 4: the guy who could just make things happen for the

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Speaker 4: battler and and.

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Speaker 5: Look, it was a he's a big unit.

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Speaker 4: It was a headed goal and on target and just

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Speaker 4: exactly where he needed to be. And I always look

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Speaker 4: at Chris Wood and just go, there's you know, that

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Speaker 4: type of player has been outdated for some time now,

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Speaker 4: but the fact that he's that important and starts games

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Speaker 4: for a big Premier league club like that, it just

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Speaker 4: shows he actually is worth every penny. And I'm glad

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Speaker 4: that we've got someone who's a proper, you know, superstar

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Speaker 2: Now, speaking of pennies or whatever currency you're dealing in

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Speaker 2: right now. Did you put any of it on lydia

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Speaker 2: Co last week we spoke last week she was three

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Speaker 2: Did you get any of your I don't know what's

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Speaker 2: the Danish currency.

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Speaker 5: Did you put me on any krona?

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Speaker 4: Look, I this is the thing, Pinie. I was talking

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Speaker 4: Paris Olympics before she played, I had a feeling. I

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Speaker 4: just thought, the way she's speaking, it sounds like she's

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Speaker 4: going to win the whole shebang. And I mean I

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Speaker 4: didn't bet on her. Then mean she's probably playing forty

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Speaker 4: muppet when we were talking last weekend again talking lydia

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Speaker 5: She's in a great position.

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Speaker 4: You know, Nellie Cord will be worried about her breathing

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Speaker 4: down her neck. Sure enough, lydia Coe gets up. Look,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the word is for regretting not

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Speaker 4: making bets. I'm sure there's a German word for it,

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Speaker 4: like upid batten forgetten or something like that. But that's

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Speaker 4: that's what I That's what I'm feeling right now is yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm happy for Lydia Coe. But why didn't I listen

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Speaker 4: to the inner sports pundit which says or punter, which goes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that that Lidia Coe just looks to be in good

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Speaker 4: form and just seems to have the weight of the

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Speaker 4: world off your shoulders.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, hey, just before you go Bunnings MPC, continuing over here,

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Speaker 2: you would have noticed that Auckland four from four, but

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Speaker 2: not in a good way. They've lost all of their games.

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Speaker 2: Have you sort of been keeping up with it? And

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Speaker 2: as an out of the box thinker any more thoughts

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Speaker 4: This is the thing that worries me, pony. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm missing home a little bit. Even though I do

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Speaker 4: love the Danes and they're various cheeses and pastries. It's

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Speaker 4: I still tune in for a bit of Bunnings MPC

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Speaker 4: and just seeing the lack of crowds is fairly sad.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what can you do to revive that? How

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Speaker 4: can you get people back watching rugby? I don't think

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Speaker 4: the rugby is enough, clearly the marketing side of it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure they're throwing lots of money at it. Look,

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Speaker 4: I've always felt that it needs to be another event

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Speaker 4: as well down there at a rugby ground, whether it's

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Speaker 4: a farmer's market or you know, some vintage merch which

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Speaker 4: everyone seems to go crazy for these days, or whatever

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Speaker 4: kind of event that you want to host. Maybe throwing

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Speaker 4: hay I mean after raygun at the Olympics and breakdancing.

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Speaker 5: It could be whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 4: They need to think outside of the box because it's

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Speaker 4: pretty chronic right now, Piney. And I'm sure even your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed they are.

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Speaker 2: Well they've taken games to Pottydoor Park where excuse me,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind it. I quite like the smaller grounds.

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Speaker 2: I know it doesn't increase the side of the size

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Speaker 2: of the crowd, but it certainly I guess makes it

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Speaker 3: And actually it's more of a feel, you know.

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Speaker 2: If you're that close to the ground that you know,

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Speaker 2: or to the pliers at a ground like Pottdoor Park

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Speaker 2: as the experience is concerned, is you know? From what

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Speaker 2: I can see anyway, we're we're swiftly running out of time.

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Speaker 2: So should we bid each other? How do you say

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Speaker 2: goodbye in Danish?

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Speaker 5: Well you do?

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Speaker 4: You say Favell and vill says, which is I'll see

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Speaker 4: you later, So Favell visays.

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Speaker 3: And same to you, James, same to you.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy yourself in Denmark and we'll cheat to you again

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Speaker 2: next week.

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