WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 223: Planned tech levy sparks frustrations

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<v Speaker 3>Hello and goodness me, what a week we've had in cricket.

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<v Speaker 3>There's plenty going on and I wonder which has been

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<v Speaker 3>the most entertaining or the most controversial. England go to

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<v Speaker 3>one in the challenging series with India. Boy didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>a little testy in that game over eight tissue is

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<v Speaker 3>rear e'zagly ahead again twenty six challenge once more, but

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<v Speaker 3>we still hold the unwanted record out of the West

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<v Speaker 3>Indies avoid acquiring it was at the pink ball that

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<v Speaker 3>kept the scores low and the bowlers on job wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just playing bad batting by both sides. Game one of

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<v Speaker 3>the African Try series and there's a mutiny on the

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<v Speaker 3>cards for our domestic cricketers fees being bumped by an

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<v Speaker 3>unwanted technology levy hardly what the game needs in the

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<v Speaker 3>country at the moment, but it seems likely to create conflict.

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<v Speaker 3>Just before we're joined by Jeremy Cooney as ever, and

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Holland along here to join us. This week, there's

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<v Speaker 3>been a lot of cricketing action, but it's been capped

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<v Speaker 3>off by the performance of the Black Caps in Zimbabwe

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<v Speaker 3>under their new coach Rob Walter, winning their first game

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<v Speaker 3>of T twenty cricket against South Africa, the team that

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<v Speaker 3>Rob Walter has previously coached, and it wasn't their normal

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<v Speaker 3>frontline players Tim Robbin and Bevan Jacobs. The replacement players

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<v Speaker 3>put on a partnership of one hundred and three to

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<v Speaker 3>give them a very respectable total. There was no Bracewell,

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<v Speaker 3>no Phillips, no Ravender, no Chapman, and o'rourkan Milne were

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<v Speaker 3>left out of the New Zealand side. So next week

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be able to cover that series and get some

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<v Speaker 3>reaction to the New Zealand team's performance in Zimbabwe. But well,

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<v Speaker 3>what's been the highlights of the week? Has it been

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<v Speaker 3>England's win over India in the match at Lord's or

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<v Speaker 3>Jeremy Coney. Was it the twenty seven that the West

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<v Speaker 3>Indies scored nearly taking a record office.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, high words and moose again, Yeah, twenty seven and

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<v Speaker 5>it was actually the difference Wards was a missfield by

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<v Speaker 5>Constance in the gully.

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<v Speaker 4>He needs to be strung up whoever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>To drop catches, Jerry, if you don't before.

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<v Speaker 4>The really really I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's yeah, well twenty six, Yeah, that's that's that's a

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<v Speaker 5>record we could do without. Really, we could talk about that.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess when we get there, I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 5>The Western These bowlers aren't the worst lads. No, if

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<v Speaker 5>you look at this, yeah, I mean no, that's well

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<v Speaker 5>they're not.

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<v Speaker 4>They're supposed to bed are they the bowlers?

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean the Seals, Seals and Shama Joseph and

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<v Speaker 5>Alzari Joseph and Justin Grieves that or they're they're not

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<v Speaker 5>a bad, bad lot of seamers. So I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 5>to seeing them when they come over. Yes, Sabina Park again, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear one, are your favorite grounds?

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, look.

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<v Speaker 5>Not one hundred, I don't think as it's a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a guess from either side and the three tests?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy five was the yeah score by Brandon King.

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<v Speaker 5>So the pictures, the pictures could have been fairly tough.

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<v Speaker 5>I only watched bits of it here and there, and

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<v Speaker 5>the parts I thought were seeming quite a lot, so look, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but twenty seven I couldn't believe that. Really in fourteen

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<v Speaker 5>fourteen and a half overs amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>Most were you backing the Aussies?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I couldn't be going there. I'm sorry. I'm listening

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<v Speaker 2>to it on the radio and they were eleven for

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<v Speaker 2>living for six and I'm going, we're in with a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>He I mean, please please, because it's it's the dreaded,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the dreaded well, I don't know what you call it,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're carrying it. New Zealand's carrying it and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not that bad as a cricketing nation. When we used

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<v Speaker 2>to talk the lowest ten score and I'm going, oh, please,

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<v Speaker 2>can we can? We can we get through that? And

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<v Speaker 2>then and then I'm and then I'm and so I

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<v Speaker 2>had to go on and then because it was on

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<v Speaker 2>live TV here had to go and watch it. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was like torture.

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<v Speaker 3>You realize of course they're squit. They're sweating blood on

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<v Speaker 3>the Caribbean. Now they want everybody, they want everybody's head,

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<v Speaker 3>and no one's prepared to give their head.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, not of course not, but but but can

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<v Speaker 2>I just come back to the point around around at

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<v Speaker 2>the West Indian Cricket, I'll tell you what that And

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry's right, my lord, there are some very very good

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<v Speaker 2>quick bowlers there. I love that. Pity the banning out

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<v Speaker 2>so good. That said, though I didn't see too much

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<v Speaker 2>from the Australian banning lineups. I did see and much

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<v Speaker 2>of my line and from a lot of people. Cameron

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<v Speaker 2>Green at three gas sing it out and getting quite

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<v Speaker 2>important runs at two and at three you know, forty

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<v Speaker 2>and a thirty odd which when you when you when

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<v Speaker 2>you back it all up, a kind of really important

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<v Speaker 2>runs top of the order. But it looked horrendous to

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<v Speaker 2>play there at a dark ball, and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>the lights were particularly effective. It looked horrible and scary,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you've got these quick bottles coming in

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw carrying it. It whacked in the noggin

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, my lord, he didn't see it. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's a good player.

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry, you got a Denton you left forum, haven't you

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<v Speaker 3>from Savannah Park?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I do on left arm, yeah, Joel Garner, that was

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<v Speaker 5>my mistake. It was a day game, so I couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>complain about that. It was a red ball, so that

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<v Speaker 5>was a bit different.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I just couldn't couldn't pick up the bat

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<v Speaker 5>and have any strength, And so I had to leave

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<v Speaker 5>the game at that point and went to the first hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>It was closed, and so I was sitting in the

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<v Speaker 5>back of the car with a sort of a pad,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just around my arm and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And that we went to the second hospital and that

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<v Speaker 5>one was open, which was good. Orthopedics was working that day,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I remember driving past the car park and

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<v Speaker 5>there was a little sign on the outside guard dogs operating,

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<v Speaker 5>and I thought to myself, hell's bells. I was sure

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<v Speaker 5>as hell, hope they'd been trained. And in we went.

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<v Speaker 5>In we went, and this little kid came up to

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<v Speaker 5>me walking through the car park.

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<v Speaker 4>And he said, Kune you sign and.

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<v Speaker 5>He had his little he added a little autograph book

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<v Speaker 5>with him and I said, yeah, certainly, son popped on

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<v Speaker 5>the broken arm here.

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>I was looking through and flicking through it and there

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<v Speaker 5>was you know, there was gatting.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you know it did. Yeah, Oh yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you know Umran Khan over the page Alan border,

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of thing. I said, oh, you like your

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<v Speaker 5>cricket son. He said, yes, Sir. I said, you obviously

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<v Speaker 5>get down to Sabina Parker. But no, shir, they all

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<v Speaker 5>come here sometime.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, there we are.

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<v Speaker 5>My name, my name joined the other one. So I

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<v Speaker 5>went in the Yeah. So that was the end of

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<v Speaker 5>my tour. And you remember that really nice interview I

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<v Speaker 5>gave you wads that lasted about an hour and a

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<v Speaker 5>half later.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and only asked one question. What I remember is

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<v Speaker 3>you killed you killed the pain with a bath full

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<v Speaker 3>of booze and asked me to join you every hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Are in the middle of the night. Never forget it,

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<v Speaker 3>Never forget it. You won't forget either. Jerry talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Constance dropping a catch. India might have won that Test

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<v Speaker 3>match if they hadn't led twenty five buys through in

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<v Speaker 3>the England second and things. They were a wonder game

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<v Speaker 3>quite comfortably. They wouldn't have been chasing that many, would they?

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's true. Thirty thirty runs wads in both innings

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<v Speaker 5>sixty extras. But you're right about the buys. Some of

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<v Speaker 5>them were pretty tough, weren't they. Remember punt was off

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<v Speaker 5>the field most of the game that that rule came

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<v Speaker 5>in a few years ago. Now that you know that

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<v Speaker 5>you can replace your keeper.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but the ball swings at Lord's, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>After it pitchres and goes past the stumps, and it

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<v Speaker 5>can be quite tricky. But you would have thought if

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<v Speaker 5>they could have saved a few there. And I wonder

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<v Speaker 5>whether the umpires do just to bring.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lot of people who have never stood behind

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff mumps, A lot of people our listeners will

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<v Speaker 2>be those. Can you explain that? Because it is really

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<v Speaker 2>disconcerting because the ball literally wobbles, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>It does two things. It can do two things.

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<v Speaker 5>Moose the first thing it can do and the obvious

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<v Speaker 5>one that was happening at.

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<v Speaker 4>Lord's as it pictures.

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<v Speaker 5>Quite often it'll straighten the seam up as it lands

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<v Speaker 5>on the ground, and as it passes the stumps, it's

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<v Speaker 5>actually still moving towards the keeper, of course, and it

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<v Speaker 5>starts to swing and it swings usually away from the keeper.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the keepers were outside of stump but swinging

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<v Speaker 5>away to the leg side and they just can't get

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<v Speaker 5>there and so often you will get a resulting four buys.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing it can do, and it did it

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<v Speaker 5>at Christich actually did it quite a lot Lancaster Park

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<v Speaker 5>when it was called that it would come and it

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<v Speaker 5>would go up and down as well. After it came

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<v Speaker 5>through past the batsman, it would actually dip and then

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<v Speaker 5>go up and down. And I remember Wally Lees broke

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<v Speaker 5>a finger and he hated that. That was worse, he said,

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<v Speaker 5>than having the ball swing away from him, it going

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<v Speaker 5>up and down because you think you've lined it up

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<v Speaker 5>to catch it and suddenly it's in a different position

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<v Speaker 5>but still coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Straight at you.

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<v Speaker 5>So those are the two things that can happen at

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<v Speaker 5>pace and at pace, you're right, so quite tricky to

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<v Speaker 5>stop those. But you know a few just got under

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<v Speaker 5>the glove and things like that, and that would have

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<v Speaker 5>certainly helped.

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<v Speaker 4>There's that wadds And.

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<v Speaker 5>If I could just quickly just mention and it may

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<v Speaker 5>lead us on to another topic.

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<v Speaker 4>But look, there are rules fellas.

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<v Speaker 5>There are rules in place for five penalty runs. There

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<v Speaker 5>are rules that the umpires can create if the stock

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<v Speaker 5>pokers finished, you can give you can warn the fielding

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<v Speaker 5>side for not being quick enough and award five penalty.

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<v Speaker 4>Runs to the opposition.

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<v Speaker 5>There are rules as well where if you warn for

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<v Speaker 5>wasting time, there are rules about you can then warn

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<v Speaker 5>them and then result with five penalty runs. Now a

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<v Speaker 5>few of those, and there were plenty of opportunities. I

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<v Speaker 5>can tell you in that last game you could easily

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<v Speaker 5>get up to twenty twenty five runs. So there's another

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<v Speaker 5>area I reckon could have been used.

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<v Speaker 3>They seem not to care the overrates come up. It

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<v Speaker 3>was commented on on a number of occasions. Day one

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three overs, Day two seventy two, Day three seventy seven,

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<v Speaker 3>Day four seventy nine, they all went to extra time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes there was an inning change in there, but they

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<v Speaker 3>they don't care about the spectator, the person who pays.

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<v Speaker 3>And I read where somebody had paid three hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 3>to have a day's cricket. That's a lot of money

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<v Speaker 3>for two people to go to a day's cricket and

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<v Speaker 3>say they get seventy two overs. They're not getting their

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<v Speaker 3>money's worth, and the administrators don't care, or they don't

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<v Speaker 3>seem to moose.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm hearing you, and I want to agree with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of what you're saying there. That said, I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>The people on day five were on the edge of

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<v Speaker 2>their seats with every.

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<v Speaker 4>Ball being bold.

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<v Speaker 2>They everyone loves all the niggle that happened through this

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<v Speaker 2>Test match. They love the teapot from various people teapots plural,

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<v Speaker 2>the winging and the complaining and the legle and a

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<v Speaker 2>certain extent. And we're talking about over eight. But what

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<v Speaker 2>we were looking at was an absolute content there, an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute contest. And it was not only a contest in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of the cricket.

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<v Speaker 6>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>The classic things that my god, we would see that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know two day cracket and god knows where

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<v Speaker 2>in New Zealand where someone's delaying to not bold, to overs.

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<v Speaker 2>This has happened from time memorial. So part of me says,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you about over eight. But we were

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<v Speaker 2>all locked into this. We loved it, and that last

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<v Speaker 2>day it was mesmerizing stuff. And Jerry to have been

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<v Speaker 2>commentating that and watching every ball and if you're at

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<v Speaker 2>the ground, it must have been fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry, Yeah, good day, a good day.

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<v Speaker 5>Also the fifth day, of course, they dropped those prices

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<v Speaker 5>to about five quid for a child and about twe

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<v Speaker 5>he quit, I think for an adult. So it was

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<v Speaker 5>like those things in Wimbledon when you get rain and

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<v Speaker 5>suddenly they have to play on the Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, and then and all the people, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, they dropped the prices and suddenly it's the it's

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<v Speaker 5>the day of the people.

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<v Speaker 4>They come in.

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<v Speaker 5>It's and and it was there was cheering and it

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<v Speaker 5>was a different kind of atmosphere at Lord's in that

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<v Speaker 5>last day because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Must have been fantastic. Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>It was.

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<v Speaker 5>As far as as far as the the overs and

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<v Speaker 5>things like that are concerned, for me, I just think

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<v Speaker 5>the players well, that the umpires have lost control on

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<v Speaker 5>the field.

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<v Speaker 4>They've lost control.

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<v Speaker 5>Whether it's a drink breaks or scheduled drink breaks, if

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<v Speaker 5>there's an injury, to change the ball, all those kinds

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<v Speaker 5>of things. We've tried fines, we've tried suspensions to caps

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<v Speaker 5>and things.

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<v Speaker 4>We've tried to stop clock.

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<v Speaker 5>But the fact of it is people in colored vests

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<v Speaker 5>run onto the field at a moment's notice and they

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they are circling the boundary the umpires allow

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<v Speaker 5>them on. Now there's no reason for that. They wander

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<v Speaker 5>over and they stand beside the players having a drink

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<v Speaker 5>ten minutes after they've just come back from lunch, and

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<v Speaker 5>they allow them.

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<v Speaker 4>To do it.

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<v Speaker 5>The players take no notice, they ignore them. So off

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<v Speaker 5>comes the helmet, on goes the towel. I'll have some

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<v Speaker 5>batting gloves.

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<v Speaker 4>Bring that.

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<v Speaker 5>Someone else brings that on and there's nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 5>They're taking no notice from the umpire. There's no warning

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<v Speaker 5>given they're wasting time. They don't need those things, to

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<v Speaker 5>be honest, after ten minutes, you can't tell me that

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<v Speaker 5>they need a drink. After ten minutes, when the Tour

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<v Speaker 5>de France riders and ride up a bloody hill, you

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<v Speaker 5>know that that's it's that's just not needed. And so

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<v Speaker 5>that's as far as scheduled drink breaks. Yes, but especially

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<v Speaker 5>when it's warm, give them another minute, but not consistently

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<v Speaker 5>on and off all the time. Yes, sugmun Gil went

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<v Speaker 5>down on his went down and lay on the ground

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<v Speaker 5>and got a.

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<v Speaker 4>Rub about five minutes. Yeah, got a rub.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know why he's having the rub? K l

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<v Speaker 5>Ra Hall had would not have opened because he had

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<v Speaker 5>been off the field unless he had got up to

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<v Speaker 5>that time. And this is ridiculous these things. If you

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<v Speaker 5>have an injury, you leave the field and bring someone on,

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<v Speaker 5>you leave the field. And the last one is you

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<v Speaker 5>know the obviously. I mean, I just think these things

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<v Speaker 5>have got to stop. So umpires have lost control yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And the interesting thing is England lost two points from

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<v Speaker 3>the Test Match Championship Indian none. They were both as

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<v Speaker 3>bad as each other and both should have been penalized

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<v Speaker 3>from the Test Match Championship points situation.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that say?

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<v Speaker 3>That could open up a whole can of worms.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, another three programs.

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<v Speaker 2>I just leave it at that. And here's the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why is because we know where the control of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the game is and we're seeing a player. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just think, yeah, are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>solve this? Other powers have begin to solve us? No,

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<v Speaker 2>they not. What I am seeing though, is compelling, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>compelling cricket which is going to five days and we're

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<v Speaker 2>all drawn into it now. That can only be a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to just say something about I mean, just

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<v Speaker 5>very quickly, guys, in the decades between the forties and fifties,

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<v Speaker 5>there were eighteen and a half to nineteen overs in

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<v Speaker 5>our being bold. Currently there are thirteen to fourteen. The

0:19:22.853 --> 0:19:26.173
<v Speaker 5>runs per hour that was scored in nineteen forty nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>fifty are now currently the same as we are scoring

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<v Speaker 5>off the less overs exactly the same. So what we've

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<v Speaker 5>had is we are getting five overs less than the

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen forties and fifties and the same number of runs.

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<v Speaker 5>We've replaced five overs of dots from the forties and

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<v Speaker 5>fifties that were bold with dawdling with dawdling.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Some moose's argument is the same as I've heard as well,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a reasonable one. There's more entertainment now. We're

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<v Speaker 5>getting more entertainment than we would have gotten earlier on.

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<v Speaker 2>People wanting it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 5>But I imagine if you'd got those extra five overs,

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<v Speaker 5>how much more entertainment we would have. And if you're paying,

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<v Speaker 5>as you did in the Compton stand one hundred and

0:20:19.613 --> 0:20:22.853
<v Speaker 5>seventy five pounds for a six for that last game,

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<v Speaker 5>you may feel a bit different about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I can't comment because I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. I agree with you around this

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<v Speaker 2>whole point. There is no reason for all this to

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<v Speaker 2>be happening, but it is a much more entertaining or

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyable experience. That said, though there is no reason for

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<v Speaker 2>the lays. I think it's self indulgence by a lot

0:20:53.333 --> 0:20:56.373
<v Speaker 2>of the creck it is. There's a bit of Prima

0:20:56.493 --> 0:21:00.573
<v Speaker 2>Donna stuff goes on, which I find quite annoying. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the spectacle compared to your Barrington's of the days,

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<v Speaker 2>who would block it for two days to get god

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<v Speaker 2>knows what you know eighty I think that the game

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<v Speaker 2>is in some ways improved. We've got better fielders and

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<v Speaker 2>more spectacular things happening. I do not excuse the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>I just struggle with the fact that I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>things are going to change because of who's running the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is my point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you've got a fair point there, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>something that won't die just because we've brought up the issue.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a big issue around the world, and well we

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<v Speaker 3>just have to agree, wait and see whether the administrators

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<v Speaker 3>would do.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.

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<v Speaker 3>Cub cricketers across the country airing their concerns at a

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<v Speaker 3>new charge, the NZCA plans to levy that's to help

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<v Speaker 3>fund digital enhancements and it's going to be seven dollars

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<v Speaker 3>fifty introduced for all registered players. It's the first time

0:22:04.813 --> 0:22:07.613
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand Cricket has introduced a direct levy at community

0:22:07.693 --> 0:22:10.853
<v Speaker 3>level and it'll be charged once per player per season.

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<v Speaker 3>The new charts that are on top of everything else

0:22:13.173 --> 0:22:17.093
<v Speaker 3>cricketers need to pay for playing the sport has attracted

0:22:17.093 --> 0:22:21.613
<v Speaker 3>some widespread criticism to gage the feeling in the regions.

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<v Speaker 3>We're joined by the chair of Buller Cricket, Kevin Scanlon. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks for your time. What's your reaction to the proposed levey.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, certainly initially frustration. The most common complaint we hear

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<v Speaker 7>during a cricket season is play HQ. People found it

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<v Speaker 7>very easy to use Cricket HQ, but many have never

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<v Speaker 7>actually come to grips with play HQ, despite association buying

0:22:49.533 --> 0:22:55.173
<v Speaker 7>iPads and training. Last season we actually went back the

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<v Speaker 7>school books for club cricket and loaded games when they

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<v Speaker 7>were finished because it was the safest way. It's so

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<v Speaker 7>hard when you have casual players who struggle, you struggle

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<v Speaker 7>to get to register and certainly not interested in learning

0:23:08.013 --> 0:23:10.933
<v Speaker 7>how to use it. So there is a continual problem

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<v Speaker 7>during games of skill levels and problems with tech technology

0:23:15.253 --> 0:23:19.253
<v Speaker 7>and the result frustration. Some of those players just want

0:23:19.253 --> 0:23:21.773
<v Speaker 7>to have a game with their mates in reality. Then

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<v Speaker 7>on the other side of that, there is players who

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<v Speaker 7>are serious cricketers, are interested in their stats. Somehow, between

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<v Speaker 7>all that we need to have we need all of

0:23:31.773 --> 0:23:34.253
<v Speaker 7>them to have a game of cricket. It just becomes

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<v Speaker 7>very time consuming and another pressure point on our limited resources.

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<v Speaker 7>And I expect this work globe will increase as a

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<v Speaker 7>result of the changes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I hear that from other areas the country. To

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<v Speaker 3>have you taken the issue up with New Zealand Cricket

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of your objections.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I haven't taken it up with NZC. It's a

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<v Speaker 7>decision for the association to make on how we handle

0:23:57.893 --> 0:24:00.253
<v Speaker 7>it and it will be on our agenda for our

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<v Speaker 7>next meeting. We are only told late last week and

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not sure on how the association will decide to

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<v Speaker 7>handle it. One thing we don't want it is to

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<v Speaker 7>be a distraction for the rest of our programs. The

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<v Speaker 7>feedback I have had on a few cricketers that I've

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<v Speaker 7>brought up with has been more on the negative side

0:24:18.533 --> 0:24:20.613
<v Speaker 7>by a large way than the positives, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 7>and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Find it very frustrating.

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<v Speaker 7>The way it has been announced, no sort of warning

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<v Speaker 7>and commitment, a huge commitment obviously made by NZC to

0:24:29.773 --> 0:24:34.493
<v Speaker 7>play HQ, and we've got no idea on how we're

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<v Speaker 7>going to manage it at the stage.

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<v Speaker 3>You said that players or last year you went back

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<v Speaker 3>to scoring without the laptops and stuff. Is what is

0:24:46.093 --> 0:24:49.053
<v Speaker 3>likely to happen if players reject the levey that you'd

0:24:49.093 --> 0:24:50.853
<v Speaker 3>have to go back and do that or are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to have to live with it?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, we've still got even when we load it in

0:24:55.493 --> 0:24:58.893
<v Speaker 7>score box, if a player isn't registered, you can't put

0:24:58.933 --> 0:25:02.293
<v Speaker 7>a name to the score, so you have to fill

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<v Speaker 7>it in as a fill in player. And of course

0:25:04.853 --> 0:25:07.973
<v Speaker 7>one of the difficulties we have is getting players to register.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to do it and I can't be bothered

0:25:10.533 --> 0:25:13.733
<v Speaker 7>or whatever. So they've got the reason themselves. Now they've

0:25:13.733 --> 0:25:16.493
<v Speaker 7>got to pay as well, so I suspect we'll have

0:25:16.533 --> 0:25:19.333
<v Speaker 7>a few more full in players. Defeats the payments of

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<v Speaker 7>the program, really yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Can the game afford to pay the levy? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you think it's you know, it's just another cost, isn't it?

0:25:28.333 --> 0:25:29.333
<v Speaker 2>It is another cost?

0:25:29.333 --> 0:25:32.093
<v Speaker 7>And what is quite an expensive game to play and

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<v Speaker 7>to provide facilities for who knows if where we can

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<v Speaker 7>afford to pay the or afford the program from my perspective, sorry,

0:25:42.293 --> 0:25:44.453
<v Speaker 7>from a financial point of view, and usum a cricklar

0:25:44.533 --> 0:25:48.893
<v Speaker 7>charging for it, so you would have to assume there's

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<v Speaker 7>quite a bit of pressure going on their finances and

0:25:53.493 --> 0:25:55.733
<v Speaker 7>you might think that the fee is not much to pay.

0:25:55.733 --> 0:25:58.973
<v Speaker 7>But if you have three or four family members playing

0:25:59.013 --> 0:26:01.493
<v Speaker 7>the game, and then maybe dads or moms are volunteer

0:26:01.573 --> 0:26:04.693
<v Speaker 7>for as a team manager or a coach and stumping

0:26:04.773 --> 0:26:07.533
<v Speaker 7>up for the kids on top of that, and we're

0:26:07.613 --> 0:26:11.613
<v Speaker 7>using them as well, it seems like another stab in

0:26:11.653 --> 0:26:15.453
<v Speaker 7>the back and reality and if you took that money.

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<v Speaker 7>I did a little exercise. I looked up Dr Google

0:26:19.533 --> 0:26:24.213
<v Speaker 7>and Doctor Google tells me there's one hundred thousand registered

0:26:24.213 --> 0:26:28.173
<v Speaker 7>crickets is in New Zealand and been taking a conservative figure,

0:26:29.013 --> 0:26:32.293
<v Speaker 7>say fifty thousand using playhq.

0:26:32.493 --> 0:26:33.813
<v Speaker 2>There's over five years.

0:26:33.853 --> 0:26:37.373
<v Speaker 7>That's two million that the community is going to contribute

0:26:37.373 --> 0:26:41.733
<v Speaker 7>to this app, which raises the question of a we

0:26:41.813 --> 0:26:44.493
<v Speaker 7>have no ability on how the money is being spent.

0:26:44.653 --> 0:26:48.253
<v Speaker 7>Apart from that we've got a playhq app, we have

0:26:48.373 --> 0:26:50.933
<v Speaker 7>no idea what the total cost of the program. Is

0:26:51.653 --> 0:26:54.093
<v Speaker 7>we no idea what New Zealand Cricket's paying on top

0:26:54.133 --> 0:26:56.613
<v Speaker 7>of that? And then at five years, what is going

0:26:56.653 --> 0:26:58.893
<v Speaker 7>to the effort? What is going to happen is what

0:26:59.053 --> 0:27:00.893
<v Speaker 7>is the charge going to double? Is it going to

0:27:00.933 --> 0:27:03.293
<v Speaker 7>be less or we have no idea.

0:27:04.573 --> 0:27:05.653
<v Speaker 2>You have to wonder.

0:27:05.373 --> 0:27:07.853
<v Speaker 7>Whether they've tried to find a sponsor to sort of

0:27:07.893 --> 0:27:10.853
<v Speaker 7>finance it. And then you sort of ask yourself, well,

0:27:10.893 --> 0:27:13.813
<v Speaker 7>do we need all the bells and whistles, because obviously

0:27:13.813 --> 0:27:16.013
<v Speaker 7>it's going to be used as a feeding program for

0:27:16.333 --> 0:27:20.293
<v Speaker 7>information from ENZC, from the majors, from even our own

0:27:20.333 --> 0:27:23.173
<v Speaker 7>local association, if you had someone schooled enough to do it.

0:27:23.773 --> 0:27:25.733
<v Speaker 7>But do we need all that and how much does

0:27:25.773 --> 0:27:32.053
<v Speaker 7>it actually costing? We've got no idea And at the

0:27:32.133 --> 0:27:34.213
<v Speaker 7>end of the day, we just want people to play cricket.

0:27:34.733 --> 0:27:36.453
<v Speaker 7>If we spend all this money, is it going to

0:27:36.493 --> 0:27:40.373
<v Speaker 7>increase numbers of people playing or keep people in the game.

0:27:40.533 --> 0:27:42.253
<v Speaker 2>That's the question I would always ask.

0:27:44.493 --> 0:27:49.693
<v Speaker 3>And finally, Kevin, I imagine that Buller has a fairly

0:27:49.853 --> 0:27:53.853
<v Speaker 3>tight budget in terms of everything you spend your money

0:27:53.933 --> 0:27:56.573
<v Speaker 3>on to faster cricket and develop it in your region.

0:27:58.053 --> 0:28:02.373
<v Speaker 7>Exactly, we are for with a smallert association. I believe

0:28:02.373 --> 0:28:08.213
<v Speaker 7>in New Zealand And we are relatively well off financially,

0:28:08.333 --> 0:28:15.133
<v Speaker 7>but that's been built on years of voluntary efforts. Like

0:28:15.733 --> 0:28:19.013
<v Speaker 7>we've never had a CEO, it's always been done voluntary.

0:28:19.093 --> 0:28:23.093
<v Speaker 7>We've never paid for a secretary. In recent years, everything

0:28:23.213 --> 0:28:26.093
<v Speaker 7>that we've done has been on a voluntary basis, and

0:28:26.213 --> 0:28:33.093
<v Speaker 7>that is one of the reasons why we're financially comfortable

0:28:33.133 --> 0:28:36.813
<v Speaker 7>with some reserves, and those reserves have been used over

0:28:36.853 --> 0:28:39.413
<v Speaker 7>the years to help subsidize the game with the interest

0:28:39.453 --> 0:28:42.973
<v Speaker 7>that they have earned. But it's all built on a

0:28:43.053 --> 0:28:52.053
<v Speaker 7>voluntary basis, with working bees, with fundraising of our own yes,

0:28:52.133 --> 0:28:56.093
<v Speaker 7>so it's not built on a model like New Zealand

0:28:56.093 --> 0:29:00.773
<v Speaker 7>Crickets now asking for savings in the game, and I'm

0:29:00.813 --> 0:29:03.733
<v Speaker 7>sure every association is. Gerane's going to work hard to

0:29:03.773 --> 0:29:06.773
<v Speaker 7>try and find some savings in the game. I'm just

0:29:06.813 --> 0:29:08.493
<v Speaker 7>not quite sure where we're going to find out. To

0:29:08.493 --> 0:29:12.493
<v Speaker 7>be fair, isolation is a problem for us. We travel

0:29:12.533 --> 0:29:18.493
<v Speaker 7>a lot. We don't have access easily to resources that

0:29:18.573 --> 0:29:24.933
<v Speaker 7>place us closer to the bigger cities do so it's

0:29:24.933 --> 0:29:26.853
<v Speaker 7>a struggle at times to be fair.

0:29:27.173 --> 0:29:30.973
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Kevin, It's proving unpopular quite clearly and up in

0:29:30.973 --> 0:29:35.053
<v Speaker 3>the North Island. How has it been received? Craig Finlay

0:29:35.093 --> 0:29:37.653
<v Speaker 3>of Hawks Bay Cricket joins on the front foot. Has

0:29:37.653 --> 0:29:39.093
<v Speaker 3>it been received in the Hawks Bakery?

0:29:39.493 --> 0:29:42.453
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's only just come out, we'll see. We found

0:29:42.453 --> 0:29:46.493
<v Speaker 6>out a few weeks ago and I approached New Zealand

0:29:46.533 --> 0:29:48.973
<v Speaker 6>Cricket about it, and you know, I thought there would

0:29:48.973 --> 0:29:52.453
<v Speaker 6>be a few issues going on, and now our clubs

0:29:52.493 --> 0:29:55.533
<v Speaker 6>and everybody else has been informed and I've got a

0:29:55.533 --> 0:29:58.573
<v Speaker 6>few emails come through already and asking me what what

0:29:58.613 --> 0:30:02.413
<v Speaker 6>we can do, and I have replied that, yeah, it's

0:30:02.693 --> 0:30:04.493
<v Speaker 6>it's something that New Zealand Cricket have decided to do

0:30:04.573 --> 0:30:08.733
<v Speaker 6>and that we'll we will be having to with it.

0:30:09.573 --> 0:30:09.773
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:09.813 --> 0:30:13.053
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing is I hear from other associations that

0:30:13.133 --> 0:30:15.733
<v Speaker 3>there's been a lack of consultation and there's been no

0:30:15.773 --> 0:30:17.573
<v Speaker 3>opportunity to do anything about it.

0:30:17.653 --> 0:30:17.893
<v Speaker 2>Yet.

0:30:18.093 --> 0:30:20.493
<v Speaker 3>You know, the community game needs to be consulted on

0:30:20.573 --> 0:30:23.253
<v Speaker 3>issues like this because it has far reaching effects, doesn't it.

0:30:24.173 --> 0:30:24.373
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:30:24.493 --> 0:30:27.133
<v Speaker 6>I mean that's right. We're in the community game, we

0:30:27.533 --> 0:30:31.333
<v Speaker 6>run it, and there could have been other ways that

0:30:31.373 --> 0:30:34.293
<v Speaker 6>we might have looked at supporting it, because yeah, I mean,

0:30:34.373 --> 0:30:37.853
<v Speaker 6>if there's if you have to fund something and we

0:30:37.933 --> 0:30:40.853
<v Speaker 6>have to do that down the track, and we may

0:30:40.893 --> 0:30:43.333
<v Speaker 6>have some other ideas and how we can support our

0:30:43.333 --> 0:30:47.213
<v Speaker 6>community because ye as they registered this year, each player

0:30:47.253 --> 0:30:50.973
<v Speaker 6>will no doubt go on and see this as a

0:30:50.973 --> 0:30:53.533
<v Speaker 6>as a fee and I think, what's going on here?

0:30:54.293 --> 0:30:56.413
<v Speaker 6>What are we going to get out of this? And yeah,

0:30:56.453 --> 0:30:58.373
<v Speaker 6>I know, I mean that there are huge benefits and

0:30:58.533 --> 0:31:02.733
<v Speaker 6>digital programs and so on, and we've been we were

0:31:02.773 --> 0:31:05.373
<v Speaker 6>one of the original ones with cricket Q and that

0:31:05.693 --> 0:31:09.973
<v Speaker 6>helped our association and cut down management accompetation management and

0:31:10.213 --> 0:31:14.093
<v Speaker 6>give us a lot of pluses. So it is essential

0:31:14.133 --> 0:31:17.093
<v Speaker 6>for community cricket. But yeah, it's it's I suppose it's

0:31:17.133 --> 0:31:18.773
<v Speaker 6>the way we find out.

0:31:19.373 --> 0:31:22.773
<v Speaker 3>Play HQ basically replaced Cricket HQ and it's been a

0:31:22.773 --> 0:31:27.573
<v Speaker 3>costly conversion as such by for New Zealand cricket. But

0:31:27.653 --> 0:31:33.173
<v Speaker 3>I understand that Cricket HQ have a system that will

0:31:34.133 --> 0:31:37.573
<v Speaker 3>likely deal with the issues that the players and the

0:31:37.613 --> 0:31:38.613
<v Speaker 3>association's need.

0:31:39.013 --> 0:31:43.213
<v Speaker 6>Yes, they've they're still there there, they're doing some work

0:31:43.253 --> 0:31:47.533
<v Speaker 6>behind the scenes and there's I do keep in touch

0:31:47.573 --> 0:31:52.053
<v Speaker 6>with that company because we had along serving relationship with

0:31:52.133 --> 0:31:55.973
<v Speaker 6>them and there are potential, there's potential there that they've

0:31:55.973 --> 0:31:59.053
<v Speaker 6>got everything that could come into news to help out

0:31:59.173 --> 0:32:02.773
<v Speaker 6>community cricket. Obviously we've got at the stage where with

0:32:02.893 --> 0:32:06.493
<v Speaker 6>play HQ and New Zealand Cricket have got that relationship there,

0:32:06.533 --> 0:32:08.573
<v Speaker 6>so it'll be you know, it'll be interesting to see

0:32:08.573 --> 0:32:12.933
<v Speaker 6>what CRICKETSQ have to offer when it does come out. Yeah.

0:32:13.373 --> 0:32:15.773
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing, of course is that it's something that

0:32:16.013 --> 0:32:21.013
<v Speaker 3>cricket doesn't need in terms of administration, structure and issues

0:32:21.053 --> 0:32:26.053
<v Speaker 3>with New Zealand Cricket. Do you see a way through

0:32:26.093 --> 0:32:29.893
<v Speaker 3>this consultation? I guess is the first thing that cricket

0:32:29.933 --> 0:32:33.773
<v Speaker 3>needs to have and New Zealand Cricket needs to respect that.

0:32:34.213 --> 0:32:37.413
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we've got good relationship with Central Districts Crew in

0:32:37.453 --> 0:32:39.933
<v Speaker 6>New Zealand Cricket Week. We work closely with them because

0:32:40.453 --> 0:32:42.653
<v Speaker 6>you want to. It's just I suppose you get a

0:32:42.693 --> 0:32:46.133
<v Speaker 6>bit of a surprise when things like that can impact

0:32:46.133 --> 0:32:48.573
<v Speaker 6>the community game. And I hope it doesn't put a

0:32:48.573 --> 0:32:53.213
<v Speaker 6>barrier for people joining and playing for Cricket club. You'd

0:32:53.253 --> 0:32:58.293
<v Speaker 6>hope that doesn't happen. But again, cricket has been battling

0:32:58.573 --> 0:33:00.333
<v Speaker 6>a little bit over the last few years for playing

0:33:00.373 --> 0:33:05.373
<v Speaker 6>numbers and in one more barrier might stop players from registering.

0:33:06.613 --> 0:33:09.293
<v Speaker 6>I'm hoping that's not the case because we yeah, we've

0:33:09.333 --> 0:33:12.733
<v Speaker 6>got we have a great product and crickets are pretty

0:33:12.733 --> 0:33:15.973
<v Speaker 6>popular around the world at the moment, so we need

0:33:16.013 --> 0:33:20.893
<v Speaker 6>it to be a seamless uh. I suppose transition if

0:33:20.973 --> 0:33:24.133
<v Speaker 6>they of all the things that play HQ in using

0:33:24.133 --> 0:33:26.133
<v Speaker 6>on creative setup it's going to do, you'd hope that

0:33:26.253 --> 0:33:29.093
<v Speaker 6>it comes it comes with no speed bumps.

0:33:29.693 --> 0:33:34.213
<v Speaker 3>So an interesting situation that has created a problem for

0:33:34.253 --> 0:33:37.693
<v Speaker 3>the administrators and the complaints from the administrators and the

0:33:37.693 --> 0:33:43.493
<v Speaker 3>players is that it's been made compulsory and there's been

0:33:43.573 --> 0:33:47.893
<v Speaker 3>no consultation. It's not right. Cricket administrators should at least

0:33:47.933 --> 0:33:53.533
<v Speaker 3>consult with the people that they want to install these programs.

0:33:53.693 --> 0:33:54.573
<v Speaker 3>What's your view.

0:33:54.773 --> 0:34:01.613
<v Speaker 2>Most I'm quite perplexed by this because is a sport,

0:34:02.173 --> 0:34:05.973
<v Speaker 2>it's voluntaries and there's people that play it. But to

0:34:06.013 --> 0:34:09.853
<v Speaker 2>have a fees enforced on you from a above somewhat

0:34:09.893 --> 0:34:15.533
<v Speaker 2>in a Soviet Russian pot of bureau fashion, it is objectionable,

0:34:16.093 --> 0:34:20.093
<v Speaker 2>particularly when we've seen something which was otherwise available. This

0:34:20.213 --> 0:34:24.053
<v Speaker 2>is now god knows where it is previous service perfectly

0:34:24.053 --> 0:34:28.813
<v Speaker 2>fine at the time, called crick HQ, and I believe

0:34:28.853 --> 0:34:30.693
<v Speaker 2>that that's it's gone is.

0:34:30.693 --> 0:34:31.773
<v Speaker 4>Gone, it's.

0:34:34.493 --> 0:34:36.533
<v Speaker 3>It's looking to come back as a man who runs

0:34:36.573 --> 0:34:40.893
<v Speaker 3>cricket HQ has a program that could continue what was

0:34:40.933 --> 0:34:41.733
<v Speaker 3>done previously.

0:34:42.773 --> 0:34:45.333
<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm sure that's right, but that's that's some time away.

0:34:45.733 --> 0:34:48.733
<v Speaker 2>But it just seemed to me to be Terremy owver

0:34:48.933 --> 0:34:52.853
<v Speaker 2>rest on on on the game where a previous service

0:34:52.973 --> 0:34:57.693
<v Speaker 2>was available and didn't This didn't need to happen. So

0:34:57.813 --> 0:34:59.973
<v Speaker 2>why is it all of a sudden that that a

0:35:00.093 --> 0:35:04.173
<v Speaker 2>livy has been being placed on on cricketers when we

0:35:04.253 --> 0:35:07.573
<v Speaker 2>want to encourage and make it easy for people to

0:35:07.573 --> 0:35:13.093
<v Speaker 2>play the game. So ways of the service needs this questions?

0:35:13.493 --> 0:35:17.933
<v Speaker 2>Where is? Where is? Where is? Inzed c answer this question?

0:35:18.453 --> 0:35:22.573
<v Speaker 2>I mean, hello, Scott Whenek. I mean, you're a good blog,

0:35:23.373 --> 0:35:25.253
<v Speaker 2>but you've got you've gone missing on these sorts of

0:35:25.333 --> 0:35:27.053
<v Speaker 2>things and a few other things I might add too.

0:35:27.373 --> 0:35:31.573
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be controversial, but but you thinks

0:35:31.733 --> 0:35:33.733
<v Speaker 2>you're losing a lot of your people doing this sort

0:35:33.733 --> 0:35:34.213
<v Speaker 2>of stuff.

0:35:34.693 --> 0:35:38.053
<v Speaker 5>Well, from what I've heard, I haven't obviously used either

0:35:38.093 --> 0:35:42.973
<v Speaker 5>of those systems that you're referring to, you know, the

0:35:43.013 --> 0:35:46.573
<v Speaker 5>cricket HQ and now the play HQ it is regarded.

0:35:46.653 --> 0:35:49.253
<v Speaker 5>I think the play h Q is quite an opaque system.

0:35:49.293 --> 0:35:52.493
<v Speaker 5>It's very hard to work, and they've even had training

0:35:53.093 --> 0:35:53.733
<v Speaker 5>for people.

0:35:54.093 --> 0:35:55.333
<v Speaker 4>Now I'm not sure.

0:35:55.013 --> 0:35:58.453
<v Speaker 5>Club players who are going to be scoring their own cricket.

0:35:58.813 --> 0:36:02.453
<v Speaker 5>I thought the guy scanning was actually bang on and

0:36:02.493 --> 0:36:05.533
<v Speaker 5>a lot of the points that he made. The last

0:36:05.533 --> 0:36:08.893
<v Speaker 5>time I saw club cricket, it was actually in a

0:36:08.933 --> 0:36:13.453
<v Speaker 5>pub and the club captain the night before, on a

0:36:13.493 --> 0:36:18.733
<v Speaker 5>Friday night, was ringing round trying to get players to

0:36:18.773 --> 0:36:22.693
<v Speaker 5>play for various teams for his club the next day.

0:36:23.253 --> 0:36:27.453
<v Speaker 4>And you know, he was really working hard, you know.

0:36:27.533 --> 0:36:29.573
<v Speaker 5>And you think those players he gets are going to

0:36:29.613 --> 0:36:32.493
<v Speaker 5>go on a register. Of course they're not. Of course

0:36:32.493 --> 0:36:34.973
<v Speaker 5>they're not. They're going to play with their mates. They're

0:36:34.973 --> 0:36:37.533
<v Speaker 5>going to, you know, play because the guys ask them

0:36:37.613 --> 0:36:40.973
<v Speaker 5>nicely or whatever it is. That's the reality of it.

0:36:41.493 --> 0:36:45.253
<v Speaker 5>Club cricket is hard nowadays. You're already paying for subs,

0:36:45.293 --> 0:36:47.173
<v Speaker 5>and you're paying for gear, and you're paying to get

0:36:47.173 --> 0:36:49.573
<v Speaker 5>to the ground and you're traveling and all those things.

0:36:49.853 --> 0:36:52.733
<v Speaker 5>Doesn't sound like seven fifty, does it. But for the

0:36:52.733 --> 0:36:56.533
<v Speaker 5>next five years. But I'll tell you what. It's something

0:36:56.613 --> 0:37:00.013
<v Speaker 5>we could do without, I would suggest. And it's making

0:37:00.093 --> 0:37:02.613
<v Speaker 5>I guess a lot of people pretty frustrated.

0:37:02.933 --> 0:37:06.013
<v Speaker 2>And when a cricket bat costs you a lot of money.

0:37:06.013 --> 0:37:07.973
<v Speaker 2>Now I can't remember what the numbers are, but they

0:37:07.973 --> 0:37:11.893
<v Speaker 2>are ordinary. Is this is becoming not a game for

0:37:12.013 --> 0:37:17.893
<v Speaker 2>your average person. There are some people your own bloody beat.

0:37:18.293 --> 0:37:20.653
<v Speaker 3>Well, there are some people who can't afford. But you

0:37:20.693 --> 0:37:23.853
<v Speaker 3>imagine a father will say two three kids at school.

0:37:23.973 --> 0:37:26.613
<v Speaker 3>This is we're talking about college kids. He's he's up

0:37:26.613 --> 0:37:32.933
<v Speaker 3>for thirty bucks a year. And as Scanlon said, you

0:37:32.973 --> 0:37:35.453
<v Speaker 3>know the female go up. No one knows where this

0:37:35.613 --> 0:37:38.293
<v Speaker 3>is going to go. But it's being made compulsory to

0:37:38.373 --> 0:37:42.773
<v Speaker 3>register and not optional. And I think that's the difference

0:37:42.813 --> 0:37:45.773
<v Speaker 3>between crick HQ, which was going to be optional. This

0:37:45.893 --> 0:37:48.213
<v Speaker 3>is going to get a little bit wider because I

0:37:48.213 --> 0:37:50.653
<v Speaker 3>can see a lot of people kicking up against this.

0:37:51.413 --> 0:37:54.053
<v Speaker 4>Disagree with that. Wads can't disagree with that.

0:37:55.053 --> 0:37:58.893
<v Speaker 5>It needs a lot more discussion, I think before it

0:37:58.933 --> 0:38:00.213
<v Speaker 5>actually is implemented.

0:38:00.973 --> 0:38:04.373
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we'll be looking for that discussion through the

0:38:04.413 --> 0:38:08.053
<v Speaker 3>week because I'm going to get hold of Peter dah

0:38:08.333 --> 0:38:11.013
<v Speaker 3>crickethsq Man and see if he can put some light

0:38:11.053 --> 0:38:14.293
<v Speaker 3>onto what crickets Q have done and what they've got available,

0:38:14.693 --> 0:38:19.173
<v Speaker 3>because the compulsory aspect is not what cricket wants in

0:38:19.213 --> 0:38:23.413
<v Speaker 3>the game. Who's going to look after the checking to

0:38:23.453 --> 0:38:25.613
<v Speaker 3>see whether people are registered? Do you know what they

0:38:25.613 --> 0:38:29.493
<v Speaker 3>call them now? They call them fill ins? And you

0:38:29.533 --> 0:38:33.813
<v Speaker 3>know that's going to be where it sits. We'll get

0:38:33.853 --> 0:38:37.013
<v Speaker 3>unto it next week. I'm sure we can find room

0:38:37.053 --> 0:38:38.613
<v Speaker 3>for that. If you can find time to.

0:38:38.693 --> 0:38:41.773
<v Speaker 2>Join us, Moose, I'll be there, good boy.

0:38:42.453 --> 0:38:44.973
<v Speaker 4>Jeremy, bring your bear obs.

0:38:45.453 --> 0:38:48.413
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll have mine on too. Jerry, where will you

0:38:48.413 --> 0:38:50.653
<v Speaker 3>be hiding this time? Next week?

0:38:50.893 --> 0:38:53.773
<v Speaker 4>I'll be around. I don't see that.

0:38:53.893 --> 0:38:56.853
<v Speaker 5>I'm not doing the Manchester Test, so that it's the

0:38:56.853 --> 0:38:58.733
<v Speaker 5>one after that I do the Oval, so that's not

0:38:58.813 --> 0:39:00.133
<v Speaker 5>till the thirty first of July.

0:39:00.973 --> 0:39:02.893
<v Speaker 3>Oh good, oh? Will you be able to put your

0:39:02.933 --> 0:39:03.333
<v Speaker 3>feet up?

0:39:03.373 --> 0:39:04.733
<v Speaker 4>And what what are you?

0:39:04.853 --> 0:39:06.373
<v Speaker 3>What are they drinking over there?

0:39:06.413 --> 0:39:06.573
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:39:06.613 --> 0:39:09.213
<v Speaker 3>Is it Chaddie's or ceblank?

0:39:10.373 --> 0:39:16.133
<v Speaker 5>You always do this. I'm finding enough shady ones. Thank

0:39:16.173 --> 0:39:18.013
<v Speaker 5>you very much, indeed I am.

0:39:18.133 --> 0:39:18.773
<v Speaker 1>I say you.

0:39:20.733 --> 0:39:21.013
<v Speaker 4>Do it.

0:39:21.133 --> 0:39:23.613
<v Speaker 5>You won't believe this fellas I got sent a photo

0:39:23.733 --> 0:39:28.013
<v Speaker 5>yesterday from a guy from Surrey and he said, I've

0:39:28.093 --> 0:39:30.093
<v Speaker 5>just seen this and it was a shot from the

0:39:30.133 --> 0:39:31.893
<v Speaker 5>pub you know where you get all the ones where

0:39:31.893 --> 0:39:35.173
<v Speaker 5>they pour the pint. And there's a new one from

0:39:35.213 --> 0:39:38.333
<v Speaker 5>New York called Coney. I can't believe it.

0:39:38.853 --> 0:39:39.653
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe.

0:39:40.493 --> 0:39:42.893
<v Speaker 5>I said that should be a shardonay. I'm sure there's

0:39:42.893 --> 0:39:43.973
<v Speaker 5>some shardonay in there.

0:39:46.093 --> 0:39:47.973
<v Speaker 3>I think I think we'll all go to New York

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<v Speaker 3>and buy a Coney, shall we. All right, don't forget

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<v Speaker 3>your beerra next week, Jerry, because Moose will have hers

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll have mine, so it'll be good to join together.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we've already got issues that we can

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<v Speaker 3>discuss next week, including another Test match, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>the New Zealand team having won their first game in Zimbabwe.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty plenty to talk about. It's great, it's great stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep, thanks you boys, good one. Take care of you guys,

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<v Speaker 5>look after yourself. You're looking bloody cold over the.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dear.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, French CHHQ will be French CHHQ with our

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<v Speaker 5>bearings on a next next week.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Kis all good, beatiful summer.

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