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Speaker 3: Hello and goodness me, what a week we've had in cricket.
Speaker 3: There's plenty going on and I wonder which has been
Speaker 3: the most entertaining or the most controversial. England go to
Speaker 3: one in the challenging series with India. Boy didn't get
Speaker 3: a little testy in that game over eight tissue is
Speaker 3: rear e'zagly ahead again twenty six challenge once more, but
Speaker 3: we still hold the unwanted record out of the West
Speaker 3: Indies avoid acquiring it was at the pink ball that
Speaker 3: kept the scores low and the bowlers on job wasn't
Speaker 3: just playing bad batting by both sides. Game one of
Speaker 3: the African Try series and there's a mutiny on the
Speaker 3: cards for our domestic cricketers fees being bumped by an
Speaker 3: unwanted technology levy hardly what the game needs in the
Speaker 3: country at the moment, but it seems likely to create conflict.
Speaker 3: Just before we're joined by Jeremy Cooney as ever, and
Speaker 3: Peter Holland along here to join us. This week, there's
Speaker 3: been a lot of cricketing action, but it's been capped
Speaker 3: off by the performance of the Black Caps in Zimbabwe
Speaker 3: under their new coach Rob Walter, winning their first game
Speaker 3: of T twenty cricket against South Africa, the team that
Speaker 3: Rob Walter has previously coached, and it wasn't their normal
Speaker 3: frontline players Tim Robbin and Bevan Jacobs. The replacement players
Speaker 3: put on a partnership of one hundred and three to
Speaker 3: give them a very respectable total. There was no Bracewell,
Speaker 3: no Phillips, no Ravender, no Chapman, and o'rourkan Milne were
Speaker 3: left out of the New Zealand side. So next week
Speaker 3: we'll be able to cover that series and get some
Speaker 3: reaction to the New Zealand team's performance in Zimbabwe. But well,
Speaker 3: what's been the highlights of the week? Has it been
Speaker 3: England's win over India in the match at Lord's or
Speaker 3: Jeremy Coney. Was it the twenty seven that the West
Speaker 3: Indies scored nearly taking a record office.
Speaker 5: Well, high words and moose again, Yeah, twenty seven and
Speaker 5: it was actually the difference Wards was a missfield by
Speaker 5: Constance in the gully.
Speaker 4: He needs to be strung up whoever it was.
Speaker 2: To drop catches, Jerry, if you don't before.
Speaker 4: The really really I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: That's yeah, well twenty six, Yeah, that's that's that's a
Speaker 5: record we could do without. Really, we could talk about that.
Speaker 5: I guess when we get there, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: The Western These bowlers aren't the worst lads. No, if
Speaker 5: you look at this, yeah, I mean no, that's well
Speaker 5: they're not.
Speaker 4: They're supposed to bed are they the bowlers?
Speaker 5: But I mean the Seals, Seals and Shama Joseph and
Speaker 5: Alzari Joseph and Justin Grieves that or they're they're not
Speaker 5: a bad, bad lot of seamers. So I'm looking forward
Speaker 5: to seeing them when they come over. Yes, Sabina Park again, Oh.
Speaker 3: Dear one, are your favorite grounds?
Speaker 5: Jerry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, look.
Speaker 5: Not one hundred, I don't think as it's a bit
Speaker 5: of a guess from either side and the three tests?
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Seventy five was the yeah score by Brandon King.
Speaker 5: So the pictures, the pictures could have been fairly tough.
Speaker 5: I only watched bits of it here and there, and
Speaker 5: the parts I thought were seeming quite a lot, so look, yeah,
Speaker 5: but twenty seven I couldn't believe that. Really in fourteen
Speaker 5: fourteen and a half overs amazing?
Speaker 3: Most were you backing the Aussies?
Speaker 2: Oh, I couldn't be going there. I'm sorry. I'm listening
Speaker 2: to it on the radio and they were eleven for
Speaker 2: living for six and I'm going, we're in with a chance.
Speaker 2: He I mean, please please, because it's it's the dreaded,
Speaker 2: it's the dreaded well, I don't know what you call it,
Speaker 2: but we're carrying it. New Zealand's carrying it and we're
Speaker 2: not that bad as a cricketing nation. When we used
Speaker 2: to talk the lowest ten score and I'm going, oh, please,
Speaker 2: can we can? We can we get through that? And
Speaker 2: then and then I'm and then I'm and so I
Speaker 2: had to go on and then because it was on
Speaker 2: live TV here had to go and watch it. And
Speaker 2: it was like torture.
Speaker 3: You realize of course they're squit. They're sweating blood on
Speaker 3: the Caribbean. Now they want everybody, they want everybody's head,
Speaker 3: and no one's prepared to give their head.
Speaker 2: Of course, not of course not, but but but can
Speaker 2: I just come back to the point around around at
Speaker 2: the West Indian Cricket, I'll tell you what that And
Speaker 2: Jerry's right, my lord, there are some very very good
Speaker 2: quick bowlers there. I love that. Pity the banning out
Speaker 2: so good. That said, though I didn't see too much
Speaker 2: from the Australian banning lineups. I did see and much
Speaker 2: of my line and from a lot of people. Cameron
Speaker 2: Green at three gas sing it out and getting quite
Speaker 2: important runs at two and at three you know, forty
Speaker 2: and a thirty odd which when you when you when
Speaker 2: you back it all up, a kind of really important
Speaker 2: runs top of the order. But it looked horrendous to
Speaker 2: play there at a dark ball, and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: the lights were particularly effective. It looked horrible and scary,
Speaker 2: you know, when you've got these quick bottles coming in
Speaker 2: and I saw carrying it. It whacked in the noggin
Speaker 2: and I thought, my lord, he didn't see it. And
Speaker 2: he's a good player.
Speaker 3: Jerry, you got a Denton you left forum, haven't you
Speaker 3: from Savannah Park?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I do on left arm, yeah, Joel Garner, that was
Speaker 5: my mistake. It was a day game, so I couldn't
Speaker 5: complain about that. It was a red ball, so that
Speaker 5: was a bit different.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just couldn't couldn't pick up the bat
Speaker 5: and have any strength, And so I had to leave
Speaker 5: the game at that point and went to the first hospital.
Speaker 5: It was closed, and so I was sitting in the
Speaker 5: back of the car with a sort of a pad,
Speaker 5: you know, just around my arm and that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: And that we went to the second hospital and that
Speaker 5: one was open, which was good. Orthopedics was working that day,
Speaker 5: and so I remember driving past the car park and
Speaker 5: there was a little sign on the outside guard dogs operating,
Speaker 5: and I thought to myself, hell's bells. I was sure
Speaker 5: as hell, hope they'd been trained. And in we went.
Speaker 5: In we went, and this little kid came up to
Speaker 5: me walking through the car park.
Speaker 4: And he said, Kune you sign and.
Speaker 5: He had his little he added a little autograph book
Speaker 5: with him and I said, yeah, certainly, son popped on
Speaker 5: the broken arm here.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 5: I was looking through and flicking through it and there
Speaker 5: was you know, there was gatting.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know it did. Yeah, Oh yes, sir.
Speaker 5: And then you know Umran Khan over the page Alan border,
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. I said, oh, you like your
Speaker 5: cricket son. He said, yes, Sir. I said, you obviously
Speaker 5: get down to Sabina Parker. But no, shir, they all
Speaker 5: come here sometime.
Speaker 4: Oh, there we are.
Speaker 5: My name, my name joined the other one. So I
Speaker 5: went in the Yeah. So that was the end of
Speaker 5: my tour. And you remember that really nice interview I
Speaker 5: gave you wads that lasted about an hour and a
Speaker 5: half later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and only asked one question. What I remember is
Speaker 3: you killed you killed the pain with a bath full
Speaker 3: of booze and asked me to join you every hour.
Speaker 3: Are in the middle of the night. Never forget it,
Speaker 3: Never forget it. You won't forget either. Jerry talking about
Speaker 3: Constance dropping a catch. India might have won that Test
Speaker 3: match if they hadn't led twenty five buys through in
Speaker 3: the England second and things. They were a wonder game
Speaker 3: quite comfortably. They wouldn't have been chasing that many, would they?
Speaker 5: No, that's true. Thirty thirty runs wads in both innings
Speaker 5: sixty extras. But you're right about the buys. Some of
Speaker 5: them were pretty tough, weren't they. Remember punt was off
Speaker 5: the field most of the game that that rule came
Speaker 5: in a few years ago. Now that you know that
Speaker 5: you can replace your keeper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the ball swings at Lord's, doesn't it?
Speaker 5: After it pitchres and goes past the stumps, and it
Speaker 5: can be quite tricky. But you would have thought if
Speaker 5: they could have saved a few there. And I wonder
Speaker 5: whether the umpires do just to bring.
Speaker 2: For a lot of people who have never stood behind
Speaker 2: the stuff mumps, A lot of people our listeners will
Speaker 2: be those. Can you explain that? Because it is really
Speaker 2: disconcerting because the ball literally wobbles, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: It does two things. It can do two things.
Speaker 5: Moose the first thing it can do and the obvious
Speaker 5: one that was happening at.
Speaker 4: Lord's as it pictures.
Speaker 5: Quite often it'll straighten the seam up as it lands
Speaker 5: on the ground, and as it passes the stumps, it's
Speaker 5: actually still moving towards the keeper, of course, and it
Speaker 5: starts to swing and it swings usually away from the keeper.
Speaker 5: And so the keepers were outside of stump but swinging
Speaker 5: away to the leg side and they just can't get
Speaker 5: there and so often you will get a resulting four buys.
Speaker 5: The other thing it can do, and it did it
Speaker 5: at Christich actually did it quite a lot Lancaster Park
Speaker 5: when it was called that it would come and it
Speaker 5: would go up and down as well. After it came
Speaker 5: through past the batsman, it would actually dip and then
Speaker 5: go up and down. And I remember Wally Lees broke
Speaker 5: a finger and he hated that. That was worse, he said,
Speaker 5: than having the ball swing away from him, it going
Speaker 5: up and down because you think you've lined it up
Speaker 5: to catch it and suddenly it's in a different position
Speaker 5: but still coming.
Speaker 4: Straight at you.
Speaker 5: So those are the two things that can happen at
Speaker 5: pace and at pace, you're right, so quite tricky to
Speaker 5: stop those. But you know a few just got under
Speaker 5: the glove and things like that, and that would have
Speaker 5: certainly helped.
Speaker 4: There's that wadds And.
Speaker 5: If I could just quickly just mention and it may
Speaker 5: lead us on to another topic.
Speaker 4: But look, there are rules fellas.
Speaker 5: There are rules in place for five penalty runs. There
Speaker 5: are rules that the umpires can create if the stock
Speaker 5: pokers finished, you can give you can warn the fielding
Speaker 5: side for not being quick enough and award five penalty.
Speaker 4: Runs to the opposition.
Speaker 5: There are rules as well where if you warn for
Speaker 5: wasting time, there are rules about you can then warn
Speaker 5: them and then result with five penalty runs. Now a
Speaker 5: few of those, and there were plenty of opportunities. I
Speaker 5: can tell you in that last game you could easily
Speaker 5: get up to twenty twenty five runs. So there's another
Speaker 5: area I reckon could have been used.
Speaker 3: They seem not to care the overrates come up. It
Speaker 3: was commented on on a number of occasions. Day one
Speaker 3: eighty three overs, Day two seventy two, Day three seventy seven,
Speaker 3: Day four seventy nine, they all went to extra time.
Speaker 3: Yes there was an inning change in there, but they
Speaker 3: they don't care about the spectator, the person who pays.
Speaker 3: And I read where somebody had paid three hundred pounds
Speaker 3: to have a day's cricket. That's a lot of money
Speaker 3: for two people to go to a day's cricket and
Speaker 3: say they get seventy two overs. They're not getting their
Speaker 3: money's worth, and the administrators don't care, or they don't
Speaker 3: seem to moose.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing you, and I want to agree with a
Speaker 2: lot of what you're saying there. That said, I reckon.
Speaker 2: The people on day five were on the edge of
Speaker 2: their seats with every.
Speaker 4: Ball being bold.
Speaker 2: They everyone loves all the niggle that happened through this
Speaker 2: Test match. They love the teapot from various people teapots plural,
Speaker 2: the winging and the complaining and the legle and a
Speaker 2: certain extent. And we're talking about over eight. But what
Speaker 2: we were looking at was an absolute content there, an
Speaker 2: absolute contest. And it was not only a contest in
Speaker 2: terms of the cricket.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: The classic things that my god, we would see that plane.
Speaker 2: I don't know two day cracket and god knows where
Speaker 2: in New Zealand where someone's delaying to not bold, to overs.
Speaker 2: This has happened from time memorial. So part of me says,
Speaker 2: I agree with you about over eight. But we were
Speaker 2: all locked into this. We loved it, and that last
Speaker 2: day it was mesmerizing stuff. And Jerry to have been
Speaker 2: commentating that and watching every ball and if you're at
Speaker 2: the ground, it must have been fantastic.
Speaker 4: Jerry, Yeah, good day, a good day.
Speaker 5: Also the fifth day, of course, they dropped those prices
Speaker 5: to about five quid for a child and about twe
Speaker 5: he quit, I think for an adult. So it was
Speaker 5: like those things in Wimbledon when you get rain and
Speaker 5: suddenly they have to play on the Sunday.
Speaker 4: You know, and then and all the people, you.
Speaker 5: Know, they dropped the prices and suddenly it's the it's
Speaker 5: the day of the people.
Speaker 4: They come in.
Speaker 5: It's and and it was there was cheering and it
Speaker 5: was a different kind of atmosphere at Lord's in that
Speaker 5: last day because of that.
Speaker 2: Must have been fantastic. Yep.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 5: As far as as far as the the overs and
Speaker 5: things like that are concerned, for me, I just think
Speaker 5: the players well, that the umpires have lost control on
Speaker 5: the field.
Speaker 4: They've lost control.
Speaker 5: Whether it's a drink breaks or scheduled drink breaks, if
Speaker 5: there's an injury, to change the ball, all those kinds
Speaker 5: of things. We've tried fines, we've tried suspensions to caps
Speaker 5: and things.
Speaker 4: We've tried to stop clock.
Speaker 5: But the fact of it is people in colored vests
Speaker 5: run onto the field at a moment's notice and they
Speaker 5: you know, they are circling the boundary the umpires allow
Speaker 5: them on. Now there's no reason for that. They wander
Speaker 5: over and they stand beside the players having a drink
Speaker 5: ten minutes after they've just come back from lunch, and
Speaker 5: they allow them.
Speaker 4: To do it.
Speaker 5: The players take no notice, they ignore them. So off
Speaker 5: comes the helmet, on goes the towel. I'll have some
Speaker 5: batting gloves.
Speaker 4: Bring that.
Speaker 5: Someone else brings that on and there's nothing going on.
Speaker 5: They're taking no notice from the umpire. There's no warning
Speaker 5: given they're wasting time. They don't need those things, to
Speaker 5: be honest, after ten minutes, you can't tell me that
Speaker 5: they need a drink. After ten minutes, when the Tour
Speaker 5: de France riders and ride up a bloody hill, you
Speaker 5: know that that's it's that's just not needed. And so
Speaker 5: that's as far as scheduled drink breaks. Yes, but especially
Speaker 5: when it's warm, give them another minute, but not consistently
Speaker 5: on and off all the time. Yes, sugmun Gil went
Speaker 5: down on his went down and lay on the ground
Speaker 5: and got a.
Speaker 4: Rub about five minutes. Yeah, got a rub.
Speaker 5: Do you know why he's having the rub? K l
Speaker 5: Ra Hall had would not have opened because he had
Speaker 5: been off the field unless he had got up to
Speaker 5: that time. And this is ridiculous these things. If you
Speaker 5: have an injury, you leave the field and bring someone on,
Speaker 5: you leave the field. And the last one is you
Speaker 5: know the obviously. I mean, I just think these things
Speaker 5: have got to stop. So umpires have lost control yep.
Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is England lost two points from
Speaker 3: the Test Match Championship Indian none. They were both as
Speaker 3: bad as each other and both should have been penalized
Speaker 3: from the Test Match Championship points situation.
Speaker 2: What does that say?
Speaker 3: That could open up a whole can of worms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, another three programs.
Speaker 2: I just leave it at that. And here's the reason
Speaker 2: why is because we know where the control of the
Speaker 2: of the game is and we're seeing a player. But
Speaker 2: I just I just think, yeah, are we going to
Speaker 2: solve this? Other powers have begin to solve us? No,
Speaker 2: they not. What I am seeing though, is compelling, absolutely
Speaker 2: compelling cricket which is going to five days and we're
Speaker 2: all drawn into it now. That can only be a
Speaker 2: good thing.
Speaker 5: I'd like to just say something about I mean, just
Speaker 5: very quickly, guys, in the decades between the forties and fifties,
Speaker 5: there were eighteen and a half to nineteen overs in
Speaker 5: our being bold. Currently there are thirteen to fourteen. The
Speaker 5: runs per hour that was scored in nineteen forty nineteen
Speaker 5: fifty are now currently the same as we are scoring
Speaker 5: off the less overs exactly the same. So what we've
Speaker 5: had is we are getting five overs less than the
Speaker 5: nineteen forties and fifties and the same number of runs.
Speaker 5: We've replaced five overs of dots from the forties and
Speaker 5: fifties that were bold with dawdling with dawdling.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: Some moose's argument is the same as I've heard as well,
Speaker 5: which is a reasonable one. There's more entertainment now. We're
Speaker 5: getting more entertainment than we would have gotten earlier on.
Speaker 2: People wanting it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: But I imagine if you'd got those extra five overs,
Speaker 5: how much more entertainment we would have. And if you're paying,
Speaker 5: as you did in the Compton stand one hundred and
Speaker 5: seventy five pounds for a six for that last game,
Speaker 5: you may feel a bit different about that.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't comment because I wasn't.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you around this
Speaker 2: whole point. There is no reason for all this to
Speaker 2: be happening, but it is a much more entertaining or
Speaker 2: enjoyable experience. That said, though there is no reason for
Speaker 2: the lays. I think it's self indulgence by a lot
Speaker 2: of the creck it is. There's a bit of Prima
Speaker 2: Donna stuff goes on, which I find quite annoying. But
Speaker 2: I think the spectacle compared to your Barrington's of the days,
Speaker 2: who would block it for two days to get god
Speaker 2: knows what you know eighty I think that the game
Speaker 2: is in some ways improved. We've got better fielders and
Speaker 2: more spectacular things happening. I do not excuse the fact.
Speaker 2: I just struggle with the fact that I don't think
Speaker 2: things are going to change because of who's running the show,
Speaker 2: and that is my point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you've got a fair point there, and it's
Speaker 3: something that won't die just because we've brought up the issue.
Speaker 3: It's a big issue around the world, and well we
Speaker 3: just have to agree, wait and see whether the administrators
Speaker 3: would do.
Speaker 1: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 3: Cub cricketers across the country airing their concerns at a
Speaker 3: new charge, the NZCA plans to levy that's to help
Speaker 3: fund digital enhancements and it's going to be seven dollars
Speaker 3: fifty introduced for all registered players. It's the first time
Speaker 3: New Zealand Cricket has introduced a direct levy at community
Speaker 3: level and it'll be charged once per player per season.
Speaker 3: The new charts that are on top of everything else
Speaker 3: cricketers need to pay for playing the sport has attracted
Speaker 3: some widespread criticism to gage the feeling in the regions.
Speaker 3: We're joined by the chair of Buller Cricket, Kevin Scanlon. Kevin,
Speaker 3: thanks for your time. What's your reaction to the proposed levey.
Speaker 7: Well, certainly initially frustration. The most common complaint we hear
Speaker 7: during a cricket season is play HQ. People found it
Speaker 7: very easy to use Cricket HQ, but many have never
Speaker 7: actually come to grips with play HQ, despite association buying
Speaker 7: iPads and training. Last season we actually went back the
Speaker 7: school books for club cricket and loaded games when they
Speaker 7: were finished because it was the safest way. It's so
Speaker 7: hard when you have casual players who struggle, you struggle
Speaker 7: to get to register and certainly not interested in learning
Speaker 7: how to use it. So there is a continual problem
Speaker 7: during games of skill levels and problems with tech technology
Speaker 7: and the result frustration. Some of those players just want
Speaker 7: to have a game with their mates in reality. Then
Speaker 7: on the other side of that, there is players who
Speaker 7: are serious cricketers, are interested in their stats. Somehow, between
Speaker 7: all that we need to have we need all of
Speaker 7: them to have a game of cricket. It just becomes
Speaker 7: very time consuming and another pressure point on our limited resources.
Speaker 7: And I expect this work globe will increase as a
Speaker 7: result of the changes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear that from other areas the country. To
Speaker 3: have you taken the issue up with New Zealand Cricket
Speaker 3: in terms of your objections.
Speaker 7: No, I haven't taken it up with NZC. It's a
Speaker 7: decision for the association to make on how we handle
Speaker 7: it and it will be on our agenda for our
Speaker 7: next meeting. We are only told late last week and
Speaker 7: I'm not sure on how the association will decide to
Speaker 7: handle it. One thing we don't want it is to
Speaker 7: be a distraction for the rest of our programs. The
Speaker 7: feedback I have had on a few cricketers that I've
Speaker 7: brought up with has been more on the negative side
Speaker 7: by a large way than the positives, to be fair,
Speaker 7: and I.
Speaker 2: Find it very frustrating.
Speaker 7: The way it has been announced, no sort of warning
Speaker 7: and commitment, a huge commitment obviously made by NZC to
Speaker 7: play HQ, and we've got no idea on how we're
Speaker 7: going to manage it at the stage.
Speaker 3: You said that players or last year you went back
Speaker 3: to scoring without the laptops and stuff. Is what is
Speaker 3: likely to happen if players reject the levey that you'd
Speaker 3: have to go back and do that or are you
Speaker 3: going to have to live with it?
Speaker 7: Well, we've still got even when we load it in
Speaker 7: score box, if a player isn't registered, you can't put
Speaker 7: a name to the score, so you have to fill
Speaker 7: it in as a fill in player. And of course
Speaker 7: one of the difficulties we have is getting players to register.
Speaker 7: I'm going to do it and I can't be bothered
Speaker 7: or whatever. So they've got the reason themselves. Now they've
Speaker 7: got to pay as well, so I suspect we'll have
Speaker 7: a few more full in players. Defeats the payments of
Speaker 7: the program, really yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Can the game afford to pay the levy? Do
Speaker 3: you think it's you know, it's just another cost, isn't it?
Speaker 2: It is another cost?
Speaker 7: And what is quite an expensive game to play and
Speaker 7: to provide facilities for who knows if where we can
Speaker 7: afford to pay the or afford the program from my perspective, sorry,
Speaker 7: from a financial point of view, and usum a cricklar
Speaker 7: charging for it, so you would have to assume there's
Speaker 7: quite a bit of pressure going on their finances and
Speaker 7: you might think that the fee is not much to pay.
Speaker 7: But if you have three or four family members playing
Speaker 7: the game, and then maybe dads or moms are volunteer
Speaker 7: for as a team manager or a coach and stumping
Speaker 7: up for the kids on top of that, and we're
Speaker 7: using them as well, it seems like another stab in
Speaker 7: the back and reality and if you took that money.
Speaker 7: I did a little exercise. I looked up Dr Google
Speaker 7: and Doctor Google tells me there's one hundred thousand registered
Speaker 7: crickets is in New Zealand and been taking a conservative figure,
Speaker 7: say fifty thousand using playhq.
Speaker 2: There's over five years.
Speaker 7: That's two million that the community is going to contribute
Speaker 7: to this app, which raises the question of a we
Speaker 7: have no ability on how the money is being spent.
Speaker 7: Apart from that we've got a playhq app, we have
Speaker 7: no idea what the total cost of the program. Is
Speaker 7: we no idea what New Zealand Cricket's paying on top
Speaker 7: of that? And then at five years, what is going
Speaker 7: to the effort? What is going to happen is what
Speaker 7: is the charge going to double? Is it going to
Speaker 7: be less or we have no idea.
Speaker 2: You have to wonder.
Speaker 7: Whether they've tried to find a sponsor to sort of
Speaker 7: finance it. And then you sort of ask yourself, well,
Speaker 7: do we need all the bells and whistles, because obviously
Speaker 7: it's going to be used as a feeding program for
Speaker 7: information from ENZC, from the majors, from even our own
Speaker 7: local association, if you had someone schooled enough to do it.
Speaker 7: But do we need all that and how much does
Speaker 7: it actually costing? We've got no idea And at the
Speaker 7: end of the day, we just want people to play cricket.
Speaker 7: If we spend all this money, is it going to
Speaker 7: increase numbers of people playing or keep people in the game.
Speaker 2: That's the question I would always ask.
Speaker 3: And finally, Kevin, I imagine that Buller has a fairly
Speaker 3: tight budget in terms of everything you spend your money
Speaker 3: on to faster cricket and develop it in your region.
Speaker 7: Exactly, we are for with a smallert association. I believe
Speaker 7: in New Zealand And we are relatively well off financially,
Speaker 7: but that's been built on years of voluntary efforts. Like
Speaker 7: we've never had a CEO, it's always been done voluntary.
Speaker 7: We've never paid for a secretary. In recent years, everything
Speaker 7: that we've done has been on a voluntary basis, and
Speaker 7: that is one of the reasons why we're financially comfortable
Speaker 7: with some reserves, and those reserves have been used over
Speaker 7: the years to help subsidize the game with the interest
Speaker 7: that they have earned. But it's all built on a
Speaker 7: voluntary basis, with working bees, with fundraising of our own yes,
Speaker 7: so it's not built on a model like New Zealand
Speaker 7: Crickets now asking for savings in the game, and I'm
Speaker 7: sure every association is. Gerane's going to work hard to
Speaker 7: try and find some savings in the game. I'm just
Speaker 7: not quite sure where we're going to find out. To
Speaker 7: be fair, isolation is a problem for us. We travel
Speaker 7: a lot. We don't have access easily to resources that
Speaker 7: place us closer to the bigger cities do so it's
Speaker 7: a struggle at times to be fair.
Speaker 3: Thanks Kevin, It's proving unpopular quite clearly and up in
Speaker 3: the North Island. How has it been received? Craig Finlay
Speaker 3: of Hawks Bay Cricket joins on the front foot. Has
Speaker 3: it been received in the Hawks Bakery?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's only just come out, we'll see. We found
Speaker 6: out a few weeks ago and I approached New Zealand
Speaker 6: Cricket about it, and you know, I thought there would
Speaker 6: be a few issues going on, and now our clubs
Speaker 6: and everybody else has been informed and I've got a
Speaker 6: few emails come through already and asking me what what
Speaker 6: we can do, and I have replied that, yeah, it's
Speaker 6: it's something that New Zealand Cricket have decided to do
Speaker 6: and that we'll we will be having to with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing is I hear from other associations that
Speaker 3: there's been a lack of consultation and there's been no
Speaker 3: opportunity to do anything about it.
Speaker 2: Yet.
Speaker 3: You know, the community game needs to be consulted on
Speaker 3: issues like this because it has far reaching effects, doesn't it.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 6: I mean that's right. We're in the community game, we
Speaker 6: run it, and there could have been other ways that
Speaker 6: we might have looked at supporting it, because yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: if there's if you have to fund something and we
Speaker 6: have to do that down the track, and we may
Speaker 6: have some other ideas and how we can support our
Speaker 6: community because ye as they registered this year, each player
Speaker 6: will no doubt go on and see this as a
Speaker 6: as a fee and I think, what's going on here?
Speaker 6: What are we going to get out of this? And yeah,
Speaker 6: I know, I mean that there are huge benefits and
Speaker 6: digital programs and so on, and we've been we were
Speaker 6: one of the original ones with cricket Q and that
Speaker 6: helped our association and cut down management accompetation management and
Speaker 6: give us a lot of pluses. So it is essential
Speaker 6: for community cricket. But yeah, it's it's I suppose it's
Speaker 6: the way we find out.
Speaker 3: Play HQ basically replaced Cricket HQ and it's been a
Speaker 3: costly conversion as such by for New Zealand cricket. But
Speaker 3: I understand that Cricket HQ have a system that will
Speaker 3: likely deal with the issues that the players and the
Speaker 3: association's need.
Speaker 6: Yes, they've they're still there there, they're doing some work
Speaker 6: behind the scenes and there's I do keep in touch
Speaker 6: with that company because we had along serving relationship with
Speaker 6: them and there are potential, there's potential there that they've
Speaker 6: got everything that could come into news to help out
Speaker 6: community cricket. Obviously we've got at the stage where with
Speaker 6: play HQ and New Zealand Cricket have got that relationship there,
Speaker 6: so it'll be you know, it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 6: what CRICKETSQ have to offer when it does come out. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing, of course is that it's something that
Speaker 3: cricket doesn't need in terms of administration, structure and issues
Speaker 3: with New Zealand Cricket. Do you see a way through
Speaker 3: this consultation? I guess is the first thing that cricket
Speaker 3: needs to have and New Zealand Cricket needs to respect that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've got good relationship with Central Districts Crew in
Speaker 6: New Zealand Cricket Week. We work closely with them because
Speaker 6: you want to. It's just I suppose you get a
Speaker 6: bit of a surprise when things like that can impact
Speaker 6: the community game. And I hope it doesn't put a
Speaker 6: barrier for people joining and playing for Cricket club. You'd
Speaker 6: hope that doesn't happen. But again, cricket has been battling
Speaker 6: a little bit over the last few years for playing
Speaker 6: numbers and in one more barrier might stop players from registering.
Speaker 6: I'm hoping that's not the case because we yeah, we've
Speaker 6: got we have a great product and crickets are pretty
Speaker 6: popular around the world at the moment, so we need
Speaker 6: it to be a seamless uh. I suppose transition if
Speaker 6: they of all the things that play HQ in using
Speaker 6: on creative setup it's going to do, you'd hope that
Speaker 6: it comes it comes with no speed bumps.
Speaker 3: So an interesting situation that has created a problem for
Speaker 3: the administrators and the complaints from the administrators and the
Speaker 3: players is that it's been made compulsory and there's been
Speaker 3: no consultation. It's not right. Cricket administrators should at least
Speaker 3: consult with the people that they want to install these programs.
Speaker 3: What's your view.
Speaker 2: Most I'm quite perplexed by this because is a sport,
Speaker 2: it's voluntaries and there's people that play it. But to
Speaker 2: have a fees enforced on you from a above somewhat
Speaker 2: in a Soviet Russian pot of bureau fashion, it is objectionable,
Speaker 2: particularly when we've seen something which was otherwise available. This
Speaker 2: is now god knows where it is previous service perfectly
Speaker 2: fine at the time, called crick HQ, and I believe
Speaker 2: that that's it's gone is.
Speaker 4: Gone, it's.
Speaker 3: It's looking to come back as a man who runs
Speaker 3: cricket HQ has a program that could continue what was
Speaker 3: done previously.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm sure that's right, but that's that's some time away.
Speaker 2: But it just seemed to me to be Terremy owver
Speaker 2: rest on on on the game where a previous service
Speaker 2: was available and didn't This didn't need to happen. So
Speaker 2: why is it all of a sudden that that a
Speaker 2: livy has been being placed on on cricketers when we
Speaker 2: want to encourage and make it easy for people to
Speaker 2: play the game. So ways of the service needs this questions?
Speaker 2: Where is? Where is? Where is? Inzed c answer this question?
Speaker 2: I mean, hello, Scott Whenek. I mean, you're a good blog,
Speaker 2: but you've got you've gone missing on these sorts of
Speaker 2: things and a few other things I might add too.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be controversial, but but you thinks
Speaker 2: you're losing a lot of your people doing this sort
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 5: Well, from what I've heard, I haven't obviously used either
Speaker 5: of those systems that you're referring to, you know, the
Speaker 5: cricket HQ and now the play HQ it is regarded.
Speaker 5: I think the play h Q is quite an opaque system.
Speaker 5: It's very hard to work, and they've even had training
Speaker 5: for people.
Speaker 4: Now I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: Club players who are going to be scoring their own cricket.
Speaker 5: I thought the guy scanning was actually bang on and
Speaker 5: a lot of the points that he made. The last
Speaker 5: time I saw club cricket, it was actually in a
Speaker 5: pub and the club captain the night before, on a
Speaker 5: Friday night, was ringing round trying to get players to
Speaker 5: play for various teams for his club the next day.
Speaker 4: And you know, he was really working hard, you know.
Speaker 5: And you think those players he gets are going to
Speaker 5: go on a register. Of course they're not. Of course
Speaker 5: they're not. They're going to play with their mates. They're
Speaker 5: going to, you know, play because the guys ask them
Speaker 5: nicely or whatever it is. That's the reality of it.
Speaker 5: Club cricket is hard nowadays. You're already paying for subs,
Speaker 5: and you're paying for gear, and you're paying to get
Speaker 5: to the ground and you're traveling and all those things.
Speaker 5: Doesn't sound like seven fifty, does it. But for the
Speaker 5: next five years. But I'll tell you what. It's something
Speaker 5: we could do without, I would suggest. And it's making
Speaker 5: I guess a lot of people pretty frustrated.
Speaker 2: And when a cricket bat costs you a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Now I can't remember what the numbers are, but they
Speaker 2: are ordinary. Is this is becoming not a game for
Speaker 2: your average person. There are some people your own bloody beat.
Speaker 3: Well, there are some people who can't afford. But you
Speaker 3: imagine a father will say two three kids at school.
Speaker 3: This is we're talking about college kids. He's he's up
Speaker 3: for thirty bucks a year. And as Scanlon said, you
Speaker 3: know the female go up. No one knows where this
Speaker 3: is going to go. But it's being made compulsory to
Speaker 3: register and not optional. And I think that's the difference
Speaker 3: between crick HQ, which was going to be optional. This
Speaker 3: is going to get a little bit wider because I
Speaker 3: can see a lot of people kicking up against this.
Speaker 4: Disagree with that. Wads can't disagree with that.
Speaker 5: It needs a lot more discussion, I think before it
Speaker 5: actually is implemented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll be looking for that discussion through the
Speaker 3: week because I'm going to get hold of Peter dah
Speaker 3: crickethsq Man and see if he can put some light
Speaker 3: onto what crickets Q have done and what they've got available,
Speaker 3: because the compulsory aspect is not what cricket wants in
Speaker 3: the game. Who's going to look after the checking to
Speaker 3: see whether people are registered? Do you know what they
Speaker 3: call them now? They call them fill ins? And you
Speaker 3: know that's going to be where it sits. We'll get
Speaker 3: unto it next week. I'm sure we can find room
Speaker 3: for that. If you can find time to.
Speaker 2: Join us, Moose, I'll be there, good boy.
Speaker 4: Jeremy, bring your bear obs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have mine on too. Jerry, where will you
Speaker 3: be hiding this time? Next week?
Speaker 4: I'll be around. I don't see that.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing the Manchester Test, so that it's the
Speaker 5: one after that I do the Oval, so that's not
Speaker 5: till the thirty first of July.
Speaker 3: Oh good, oh? Will you be able to put your
Speaker 3: feet up?
Speaker 4: And what what are you?
Speaker 3: What are they drinking over there?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: Is it Chaddie's or ceblank?
Speaker 5: You always do this. I'm finding enough shady ones. Thank
Speaker 5: you very much, indeed I am.
Speaker 1: I say you.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 5: You won't believe this fellas I got sent a photo
Speaker 5: yesterday from a guy from Surrey and he said, I've
Speaker 5: just seen this and it was a shot from the
Speaker 5: pub you know where you get all the ones where
Speaker 5: they pour the pint. And there's a new one from
Speaker 5: New York called Coney. I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: I can't believe.
Speaker 5: I said that should be a shardonay. I'm sure there's
Speaker 5: some shardonay in there.
Speaker 3: I think I think we'll all go to New York
Speaker 3: and buy a Coney, shall we. All right, don't forget
Speaker 3: your beerra next week, Jerry, because Moose will have hers
Speaker 3: and I'll have mine, so it'll be good to join together.
Speaker 3: And you know, we've already got issues that we can
Speaker 3: discuss next week, including another Test match, and of course
Speaker 3: the New Zealand team having won their first game in Zimbabwe.
Speaker 2: Plenty plenty to talk about. It's great, it's great stuff.
Speaker 5: Yep, thanks you boys, good one. Take care of you guys,
Speaker 5: look after yourself. You're looking bloody cold over the.
Speaker 4: Oh dear.
Speaker 5: All right, French CHHQ will be French CHHQ with our
Speaker 5: bearings on a next next week.
Speaker 4: All right, let's go for it.
Speaker 5: Kis all good, beatiful summer.
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