1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Resources Minister Shane Jones is on a mission to sell 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: our minerals on the global stage. He's heading to Australia, 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: then he's heading to the US. He's attending mining and 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: geothermal conferences, hoping to push for growth. Chane Jones is 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: with me this morning, minister, Good morning today. What are 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: you hoping to get out of this? 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Oh, obviously we've got to promote the fact that we've 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: got a handsome endowment for minerals. They've been hidden for 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: a long time as various governments have come to a 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: preoccupation and akst ridden denial of how important minerals can 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: be to our growth. 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Isn't the problem though, You'll say I'm pro minerals, let's 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: dig it up, and then investors might say, well, what 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: about your opposition who could be in next year? 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: The Yeah, the problem that and I've had this discussions 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: with various other media. The problem that we've got. They said, 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: if we don't have a strong voice, which I represent, 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: and it's been absence since Helling Clark's time, then we 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: all just surrender to the shrillness and the wocism and 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: it's keeping us poorer. And I think what investors are 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: warming to is that in New Zealand there is a clear, 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: loud voice that's standing up and pushing back the tide 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: of ignorance. And look, if we don't do this, New 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Zealand's going to be poorer for it. 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: You've said we've got strong growth in permit applications. Do 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: you have any numbers? 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sadly, the recent crappy economic figures said that the 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: mineral sector wasn't doing well, but what it referred to 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: actually was the decline in oil and gas. Look, there 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: are hundreds of permits that have been processed. There's virtually 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: no one who is in a waiting line being mucked around. 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I took over the role at the end of twenty 33 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: twenty three. I suggested to Envy that all decisions should 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: be made by myself personally. They promised me that they 35 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 2: could handle it, and they've lived up to their word. 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: These are not environmental permits. These are permits that enable 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: you to go prospecting, exploring. You still have to sort 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: out a land use permit and of course that's where 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: we strike dock. But TAMA is introducing economic criteria into 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: the Conservation Act that should accelerate the pace at which 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: the system allocates land use consents to the extent that 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: the mining is on dock land. 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: There's a Utah governor, Spencer Cox I was reading about 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: last night, who's doing a trade mission here. Have you 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: met with the governor? And apparently there's eighty of them here. 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: They're quite interested in critical minerals. 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and my officials are well and surely engaged with 48 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: not only this particular delegation, but we've got in our 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: mineral sands on the west coast, down around Hokatekula and Westport, 50 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: a mineral known as monocyte, and within that mineral are 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 2: a host of other incredibly important rare earth minerals and 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: looked as no order of interest coming out of the 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: States and various other places. So behind the scenes we've 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: got our own little global races to who can work 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: closest with the permit holders in New Zealand. But the 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: reality is they've got to step up to the plate 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: and spend their money because we're a free market, open 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: liberal trading economy, and money walks, some sort of crap 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: walks and money talks. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Same. Jaine's Minister for Resources with us this morning. For 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: more from early edition with Ryan Bridge listen live to 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or follow 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio