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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks at B. Whether you're patting the ceiling,

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Speaker 1: fixing the fence, or wondering how to fix that hole

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Speaker 1: eight The Resident Builder on News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 2: grass is overgrown in the yard, even when the dog.

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Speaker 3: Is too old to barn, and when you're sitting at

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Speaker 3: the table trying not to stop.

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Speaker 4: Scissor home, even when we are ben.

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Speaker 2: Even when you're therellone.

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Speaker 1: Dis old.

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Speaker 2: Houses, even when there's goos, even when you go.

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Speaker 5: Around from the ones you love, your mom scream broken pains,

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Speaker 5: appearing in.

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Speaker 6: Front of the world.

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Speaker 3: Locals west when they're gone, leaving them, even when Wilbravan,

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Speaker 3: even when you're in there looney.

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Speaker 7: Well, very good morning and welcome along to the Resident

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Speaker 7: Builder on Sunday. That's with me, Pete wolf Camp, the

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Speaker 7: Resident Builder here this morning, as we are every Sunday morning,

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Speaker 7: and it's a pleasure to be here to take your

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Speaker 7: calls about all things building and construction, the rules, the regulations,

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Speaker 7: the red tape. I'm very very tempted today to talk

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Speaker 7: about road cones. I'll explain a bit more about that later.

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Speaker 7: How that relates to building well it, let me assure you.

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Speaker 7: But there seems to be some movement on the on

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Speaker 7: the road cone menace. Let's say that we've we've had

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Speaker 7: for the last couple of years. We might get into that.

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Speaker 7: There's a couple of interesting sort of tangential stories, tangentle

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Speaker 7: if I go off on a tangent, stay with me.

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Speaker 7: We'll get there in the end. Eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 7: eighty is the number to call. Someone text three last

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Speaker 7: week and said, gush, you talked too much at the beginning.

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Speaker 7: Well I do because I'm waiting for the call. So

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Speaker 7: simple way to get me to stop talking this morning

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Speaker 7: is to ring oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty, So

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Speaker 7: eight hundred eighty ten eighty inflec through a text as well,

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Speaker 7: nine two nine two, And if you'd like to email me,

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Speaker 7: I've logged and I'm ready to go. It's Pete at

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Speaker 7: Newstalk SB dot co dot nz. So Pete Pete at

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Speaker 7: Newstalk SB dot co dot nz. But the most important

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Speaker 7: thing to remember is the number, and that number is

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Speaker 7: eight hundred eighty ten eighty we have lines free not surprising.

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Speaker 7: It's the beginning of the show. We do get busy

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Speaker 7: later in the show, and it's not uncommon that I

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Speaker 7: have to say, look, I'm sorry, we just can't get

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Speaker 7: to you today on the show. You can circumvent that

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Speaker 7: by phoning. Now, if you've got a question of a

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Speaker 7: building nature, whether it's a practical thing, some jobs that

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Speaker 7: to go well doesn't always go as well as you

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Speaker 7: unforeseen consequences to an action. I'm still trying to scrape

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Speaker 7: it would be the right thing to do. I know

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Speaker 7: whole lot of ballusters in protein framesaver because what I

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Speaker 7: put those aside. We'll take those to Jay. The thing

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Speaker 7: means a failure of the clotting system. So, as part

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Speaker 7: The roof, but that's okay because we've got edge protection.

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Speaker 7: Wandered around. Did those get it? Next day I get

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Speaker 7: I've told you which areas I want you to do?

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Speaker 7: That's all I think you need to do. He said. Ah.

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Speaker 7: Once we started on the job, you know, other areas

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Speaker 7: about that in terms of is that a way of

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Speaker 7: If you peel it off and it peels the paint off,

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Speaker 7: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. As always, we're into the

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Speaker 7: So if you've got any gardening or entomological questions, we

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Speaker 7: I've got his number obviously of sending him a text. Today,

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Speaker 7: like matariki plums. They were tiny, but they were there

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Speaker 7: crazy time a year. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty the

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Speaker 7: ten eighty is the number to call. Pete. We're wanting

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Speaker 7: to get a water tank installed to save on our bills.

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Speaker 7: Do we need a council permit? Broadly speaking, No, so

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Speaker 7: you don't need a building consent for that. You used

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Speaker 7: you don't need a building consent for that, and I

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Speaker 7: would wholeheartedly recommend it. It was fascinating being at field

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Speaker 7: starting to look at, well, what can I do. Partly

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Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peuteri Wolfcare the resident builder

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Speaker 1: On News TALKSB.

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Speaker 7: You a News Talks B if you've got a question

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Speaker 7: of a building nature practical theoretical legislation, rules and regulations.

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Speaker 7: We can talk about all these things on the program

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Speaker 7: this morning. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 7: to call Jimmy, good morning.

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Speaker 8: Good morning morning. I've tried to teach you. I've tried

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Speaker 8: to email you and nothing goes through, even your doozy.

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Speaker 8: You've never applied.

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Speaker 7: All right, how can I help you now? It is

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Speaker 8: Basically, the tenants in and out of their rooms and

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Speaker 8: And I've tried to adjust the doors yep to stop

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Speaker 7: There was a system that I saw a number of

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Speaker 7: Let's say, someone who was trying to develop a product

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Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

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Speaker 7: Certainly, we're taking your text, but also your calls. Eight

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Speaker 7: little bit like the property file, which might cost seven

431
00:23:54,335 --> 00:23:56,815
Speaker 7: air eighty bucks, but there's a bit more to it

432
00:23:56,895 --> 00:24:00,455
Speaker 7: than that. And so I did a quick search last

433
00:24:00,495 --> 00:24:03,815
Speaker 7: week while we were on air and found that councils

434
00:24:04,055 --> 00:24:10,215
Speaker 7: have quite varying fees for the preparation and sale, let's say,

435
00:24:10,295 --> 00:24:13,255
Speaker 7: of a LIMB report. Given that there are a number

436
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Speaker 7: of councils twenty six roughly around the country, I thought

437
00:24:16,695 --> 00:24:18,695
Speaker 7: it would be interesting to have a wee look. Anyway,

438
00:24:18,895 --> 00:24:23,055
Speaker 7: during the programme last week, it became very obvious, very

439
00:24:23,095 --> 00:24:27,015
Speaker 7: quickly that seemingly the most expensive council in the country

440
00:24:27,455 --> 00:24:31,135
Speaker 7: for requesting a limb a land information memorandum seem to

441
00:24:31,175 --> 00:24:34,415
Speaker 7: be Wellington, at some five hundred and thirty two dollars

442
00:24:34,495 --> 00:24:39,135
Speaker 7: fifty Now, unless I'm reading it wrong, and if you're

443
00:24:39,135 --> 00:24:41,495
Speaker 7: from Wellington Council and you'd like to challenge this, it

444
00:24:41,535 --> 00:24:44,015
Speaker 7: would seem that you are by far the most expensive

445
00:24:45,295 --> 00:24:47,495
Speaker 7: across the country. A lot of them were in the

446
00:24:47,575 --> 00:24:49,895
Speaker 7: three hundred so dned In three hundred and sixty seven.

447
00:24:49,975 --> 00:24:54,095
Speaker 7: I spent a bit of time on this, by the way,

448
00:24:54,535 --> 00:24:58,095
Speaker 7: so Wellington Hamilton three hundred and ninety three, dneed In

449
00:24:58,175 --> 00:25:00,935
Speaker 7: three hundred and sixty seven, Auckland three hundred and fifty one.

450
00:25:01,135 --> 00:25:03,415
Speaker 7: These are the ones that you don't need urgently right.

451
00:25:03,495 --> 00:25:05,735
Speaker 7: All of the councils charge you more if you want

452
00:25:05,775 --> 00:25:08,095
Speaker 7: it within a couple of days, but if you're prepared

453
00:25:08,135 --> 00:25:11,335
Speaker 7: to wait five to seven days. Seemingly these are the

454
00:25:11,375 --> 00:25:14,455
Speaker 7: figures that I've used so not for urgent ones. Queenstown

455
00:25:14,455 --> 00:25:18,215
Speaker 7: two hundred and thirty, Buller three hundred and sixty seven,

456
00:25:18,495 --> 00:25:20,975
Speaker 7: Nelson three hundred and sixty seven, Far North Council three

457
00:25:21,055 --> 00:25:25,175
Speaker 7: hundred ninety five, you Plymouth three hundred and twenty, hawks

458
00:25:25,175 --> 00:25:28,615
Speaker 7: Bay three sixty five, Gisbon three ninety seven they have

459
00:25:28,735 --> 00:25:31,855
Speaker 7: twenty three ninety five, Marlborough four hundred and twenty five,

460
00:25:31,975 --> 00:25:38,135
Speaker 7: Southland for ten Tasman two twenty Otago three sixty five cheapest,

461
00:25:38,215 --> 00:25:44,055
Speaker 7: by the way, Masterton good On your Masterton three are

462
00:25:44,335 --> 00:25:46,375
Speaker 7: one hundred and ninety two dollars for a LIMB report

463
00:25:46,735 --> 00:25:53,815
Speaker 7: in Masterton. The outlier, Wellington City Council five hundred and

464
00:25:53,815 --> 00:25:57,695
Speaker 7: thirty two dollars fifty for a LIMB report in Wellington.

465
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Speaker 7: I leave you to draw your own conclusions. The lines

466
00:26:01,095 --> 00:26:03,055
Speaker 7: are open. The number to call. OH eight hundred eighty

467
00:26:03,175 --> 00:26:05,655
Speaker 7: ten eighty is the number to call. Now someone has

468
00:26:05,815 --> 00:26:09,775
Speaker 7: text through. We could be distracted by this easily. I

469
00:26:09,775 --> 00:26:13,975
Speaker 7: suspect Pete, you've achieved remarkably easy toilet whitening by simply

470
00:26:14,055 --> 00:26:18,375
Speaker 7: using a big bag of salt and leaving it overnight.

471
00:26:19,215 --> 00:26:21,855
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have believed it either, I know, thank you.

472
00:26:21,935 --> 00:26:25,775
Speaker 7: Jeff tempted to have a crack at that, given that

473
00:26:25,815 --> 00:26:27,775
Speaker 7: I'm about to rip that toilet out, and it doesn't

474
00:26:27,775 --> 00:26:34,455
Speaker 7: matter if I stuff it up or not. Salt expensive,

475
00:26:34,495 --> 00:26:36,495
Speaker 7: I'm bought salt for a long time, not much of

476
00:26:36,535 --> 00:26:39,375
Speaker 7: it anyway, Right, big bag of salt that's going in

477
00:26:39,415 --> 00:26:41,815
Speaker 7: the bowl today. I'll let you know how I get

478
00:26:41,815 --> 00:26:43,855
Speaker 7: on next week on the show. Oh eight hundred and

479
00:26:43,895 --> 00:26:46,055
Speaker 7: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. If you've

480
00:26:46,095 --> 00:26:48,255
Speaker 7: got a question of a building nature and you know

481
00:26:48,255 --> 00:26:50,415
Speaker 7: it's the rules and the regulation stuff as well, and

482
00:26:50,415 --> 00:26:54,135
Speaker 7: that's a changing area at the moment. So much is

483
00:26:54,775 --> 00:26:58,815
Speaker 7: being talked about in terms of changes to the consenting process,

484
00:26:58,935 --> 00:27:04,615
Speaker 7: changes to self certification, changes to the scope and scale

485
00:27:04,695 --> 00:27:07,015
Speaker 7: of work that could be done with it out necessarily

486
00:27:07,055 --> 00:27:10,295
Speaker 7: requiring a building consent. It's a really really interesting time.

487
00:27:10,975 --> 00:27:13,495
Speaker 7: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

488
00:27:13,935 --> 00:27:16,775
Speaker 7: And we'll go to a break in just a moment.

489
00:27:16,815 --> 00:27:19,375
Speaker 7: Then we'll come back with your calls in just a moment.

490
00:27:20,295 --> 00:27:23,015
Speaker 5: What news Talk said be extra right.

491
00:27:23,095 --> 00:27:26,095
Speaker 4: You don't think Helen knows how this game works behind

492
00:27:26,095 --> 00:27:28,295
Speaker 4: the scenes, call she does, so I do not think

493
00:27:28,335 --> 00:27:30,735
Speaker 4: that her view is irrelevant at all. And actually I

494
00:27:30,775 --> 00:27:32,695
Speaker 4: think it is a fault of ours that we as

495
00:27:33,255 --> 00:27:36,255
Speaker 4: a country consistently put our former leaders out to pasture

496
00:27:36,695 --> 00:27:40,095
Speaker 4: the way that we do. There are hundreds of incredibly

497
00:27:40,095 --> 00:27:45,495
Speaker 4: bright business leaders, political leaders, former cabinet ministers, former public

498
00:27:45,575 --> 00:27:48,255
Speaker 4: servants just sitting around in their slippers at home, being

499
00:27:48,295 --> 00:27:51,935
Speaker 4: completely ignored by us, when they actually have brains full

500
00:27:51,935 --> 00:27:54,735
Speaker 4: of amazing information and a huge amount of experience to

501
00:27:54,815 --> 00:27:57,375
Speaker 4: draw on, and they should be drawn on to participate

502
00:27:57,455 --> 00:28:01,615
Speaker 4: in our national conversations like this one, like whether it

503
00:28:01,655 --> 00:28:03,495
Speaker 4: is wise for us to be so cozy with the

504
00:28:03,535 --> 00:28:07,655
Speaker 4: States and risk our relationship with China. So actually quite

505
00:28:07,735 --> 00:28:10,375
Speaker 4: the opposite of what what what Winston said today. I'd

506
00:28:10,455 --> 00:28:13,855
Speaker 4: like to say good on Helen and co. For piping up,

507
00:28:13,895 --> 00:28:16,455
Speaker 4: and long may they pipe up and hopefully others will

508
00:28:16,455 --> 00:28:17,135
Speaker 4: pipe up too.

509
00:28:17,775 --> 00:28:21,535
Speaker 5: That was a news talk zed by Extra News Talk

510
00:28:21,695 --> 00:28:22,055
Speaker 5: zed b.

511
00:28:24,095 --> 00:28:26,095
Speaker 7: You and used talk zib and lines are open. The

512
00:28:26,175 --> 00:28:28,655
Speaker 7: number call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Cameron, A

513
00:28:28,855 --> 00:28:31,135
Speaker 7: very good morning to you.

514
00:28:31,175 --> 00:28:34,975
Speaker 10: Good morning they camera. So listen. We're in the White

515
00:28:35,015 --> 00:28:37,855
Speaker 10: Shadow and we're farming, although I'm the builder as well,

516
00:28:38,415 --> 00:28:44,375
Speaker 10: and we have irony water and we use rain water

517
00:28:44,415 --> 00:28:48,735
Speaker 10: for house text from that buck. For their toilet, we

518
00:28:48,815 --> 00:28:51,975
Speaker 10: have iron and forty years ago we had a plumber

519
00:28:52,015 --> 00:28:54,535
Speaker 10: come to do some souldering and I said to my

520
00:28:54,575 --> 00:28:56,535
Speaker 10: list the toilet he said, oh, here, I use this

521
00:28:57,295 --> 00:28:59,015
Speaker 10: spurt of salts.

522
00:29:00,575 --> 00:29:00,895
Speaker 7: Ad.

523
00:29:01,175 --> 00:29:04,535
Speaker 10: Yeah, I guess, well that could be a technical name here.

524
00:29:04,975 --> 00:29:08,855
Speaker 10: And honestly, we've all got a two liter bottle here

525
00:29:09,335 --> 00:29:11,415
Speaker 10: that's forty years old, and we just get a two

526
00:29:11,455 --> 00:29:15,135
Speaker 10: inch brush and just gab it around it, wash it

527
00:29:15,135 --> 00:29:19,175
Speaker 10: around the toilet within two minutes. It's absolutely clean.

528
00:29:20,335 --> 00:29:21,735
Speaker 7: I'm just trying to think with her. I've got some

529
00:29:21,735 --> 00:29:23,135
Speaker 7: of that in the shed as well. It might not

530
00:29:23,215 --> 00:29:25,135
Speaker 7: be forty years old, but I'm pretty sure i've got some.

531
00:29:25,295 --> 00:29:28,935
Speaker 7: Because brickies use hydrochloric, I said, well, spirit assaults a

532
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:33,615
Speaker 7: lot for cleaning down brickwork. Oh, okay, because it does

533
00:29:33,695 --> 00:29:36,895
Speaker 7: quite a good job of getting that semtitious material. So

534
00:29:37,335 --> 00:29:39,175
Speaker 7: you know, if they've done bricks and then they've morted

535
00:29:39,175 --> 00:29:41,135
Speaker 7: them off and brushed them down, sometimes you get a

536
00:29:41,135 --> 00:29:44,095
Speaker 7: flush of mortar onto the bricks, and then often the

537
00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:48,375
Speaker 7: clean down is with some spirit of salts. How interesting.

538
00:29:49,335 --> 00:29:53,455
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, So don't talk to the help and safety people. Otherwise,

539
00:29:57,495 --> 00:30:01,655
Speaker 10: I just get a a two liter ice can container

540
00:30:02,295 --> 00:30:07,735
Speaker 10: and just put in maybe five millimeters of fluid into it,

541
00:30:08,215 --> 00:30:11,855
Speaker 10: and then just put two inch paintbrush yep, and just

542
00:30:11,855 --> 00:30:14,775
Speaker 10: just wash it around and then leave it, leave it

543
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:18,335
Speaker 10: for ten minutes, flash it totally gone.

544
00:30:18,815 --> 00:30:20,695
Speaker 7: All right. I'm happy to run with that. I'll give

545
00:30:20,735 --> 00:30:22,375
Speaker 7: that a crack as well. I'll try the salt first,

546
00:30:22,375 --> 00:30:23,775
Speaker 7: and then i'll have a go with the spread of salts,

547
00:30:23,775 --> 00:30:25,935
Speaker 7: which I guess is kind of the same thing. In

548
00:30:26,335 --> 00:30:29,815
Speaker 7: the sense, Hey do you I'm just curious. You know,

549
00:30:29,855 --> 00:30:32,375
Speaker 7: for most people with water tanks, would you typically put

550
00:30:32,415 --> 00:30:35,335
Speaker 7: in a filter as well, So when you say you've

551
00:30:35,335 --> 00:30:37,375
Speaker 7: got high iron.

552
00:30:38,295 --> 00:30:39,255
Speaker 10: No, so we do not.

553
00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:40,415
Speaker 11: YEA.

554
00:30:41,095 --> 00:30:46,775
Speaker 10: Our total water is off the rain water into our tank,

555
00:30:47,775 --> 00:30:50,695
Speaker 10: but we have a bore that does the cows as

556
00:30:50,695 --> 00:30:51,615
Speaker 10: a fart.

557
00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:55,335
Speaker 12: So I have a lead going to the toilet because

558
00:30:56,095 --> 00:31:00,095
Speaker 12: it takes a lot of water. Sure so well, actual fact,

559
00:31:00,135 --> 00:31:02,535
Speaker 12: what I do is in the summer time, I put

560
00:31:02,575 --> 00:31:05,015
Speaker 12: it onto the more water. In the winter when there's

561
00:31:05,055 --> 00:31:07,655
Speaker 12: more rain, then we can go back on the rain

562
00:31:07,775 --> 00:31:09,055
Speaker 12: water for the toilet.

563
00:31:09,655 --> 00:31:13,055
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you've obviously got some sort of switch over

564
00:31:13,135 --> 00:31:15,775
Speaker 7: valve that allows you to change the source of the

565
00:31:15,775 --> 00:31:22,615
Speaker 7: water supply for this for the system, depending on the seasons. Okay, interesting,

566
00:31:22,975 --> 00:31:28,295
Speaker 7: much appreciating all the best. Take care. See then spread

567
00:31:28,295 --> 00:31:30,695
Speaker 7: assaults is cancer for concrete and should never be used.

568
00:31:34,295 --> 00:31:40,935
Speaker 7: Interesting dishwashed tablets, scale x. These are all suggestions for

569
00:31:41,015 --> 00:31:45,855
Speaker 7: cleaning toilet bowls. And someone Paul has text through. Everything

570
00:31:45,935 --> 00:31:48,055
Speaker 7: is more expensive in Wellington, but they do have nice

571
00:31:48,095 --> 00:31:50,335
Speaker 7: bike cracks. I'm told, yes, I know the one.

572
00:31:50,175 --> 00:31:50,615
Speaker 5: That you mean.

573
00:31:51,295 --> 00:31:53,375
Speaker 7: What was that two hundred and forty two hundred and

574
00:31:53,415 --> 00:31:56,015
Speaker 7: seventy thousand dollars for the bike crack. Apparently there was

575
00:31:56,055 --> 00:31:58,135
Speaker 7: more to it than just the bike crack. It also

576
00:31:58,215 --> 00:32:02,975
Speaker 7: included the approaches to and from the bike crack as well. Yeah,

577
00:32:03,535 --> 00:32:05,415
Speaker 7: oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number

578
00:32:05,415 --> 00:32:07,575
Speaker 7: to cour will that will to Linda very briefly, and

579
00:32:07,615 --> 00:32:08,615
Speaker 7: then we'll go to the break linder.

580
00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:15,975
Speaker 6: Hello there, Hello, and look, I've got a big problem

581
00:32:16,535 --> 00:32:23,175
Speaker 6: pulled by cutlary drawer out last starch. It's remove cutlary

582
00:32:24,815 --> 00:32:30,495
Speaker 6: thing and it looks looks as though the other had

583
00:32:30,775 --> 00:32:36,215
Speaker 6: been working or broken with something. And we pulled the

584
00:32:36,415 --> 00:32:39,495
Speaker 6: drawer out. The whole thing came off at the front

585
00:32:39,815 --> 00:32:44,895
Speaker 6: of it. Right now, I'm just wondering, do I need

586
00:32:44,975 --> 00:32:47,495
Speaker 6: a joiner, Do it needs a carpenter, or do I

587
00:32:47,575 --> 00:32:48,535
Speaker 6: need a handy man?

588
00:32:50,655 --> 00:32:54,535
Speaker 7: I guess Look, someone who's what you want is experience, right.

589
00:32:54,935 --> 00:32:56,855
Speaker 7: It could be a carpenter, it could be a joiner,

590
00:32:56,895 --> 00:33:01,375
Speaker 7: it could be someone who advertises handyman services. You know,

591
00:33:01,455 --> 00:33:03,495
Speaker 7: as long as they're not going to come along and

592
00:33:03,655 --> 00:33:05,295
Speaker 7: you know, put a screw through the front of the

593
00:33:05,415 --> 00:33:08,095
Speaker 7: drawer into the rails and go here. I fixed it.

594
00:33:08,455 --> 00:33:11,815
Speaker 7: So it's it's a little bit delicate, but if it's

595
00:33:11,855 --> 00:33:15,095
Speaker 7: simply come apart, chances are it'll be the glue that's

596
00:33:15,175 --> 00:33:17,575
Speaker 7: let go, in which case, someone who could take the

597
00:33:17,655 --> 00:33:20,615
Speaker 7: drawer out, clean up the edges, apply the right type

598
00:33:20,655 --> 00:33:22,655
Speaker 7: of glue, clamp it for a period of time, and

599
00:33:22,695 --> 00:33:25,695
Speaker 7: put it back in. That would be easy to do.

600
00:33:26,095 --> 00:33:29,615
Speaker 7: The other thing depending on how easy it is for

601
00:33:29,655 --> 00:33:31,575
Speaker 7: you to get around and so on, is there are

602
00:33:32,655 --> 00:33:33,895
Speaker 7: some community.

603
00:33:33,935 --> 00:33:39,375
Speaker 6: One it's mainly off one of sides too frightened to

604
00:33:39,975 --> 00:33:45,415
Speaker 6: try whether pull it off or or you know what

605
00:33:45,495 --> 00:33:47,975
Speaker 6: to do. And of course it's a cut through the drawer.

606
00:33:48,135 --> 00:33:50,135
Speaker 6: There's probably twice as much.

607
00:33:53,255 --> 00:33:57,775
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they did to get it cluss to day. Yeah, look,

608
00:33:58,055 --> 00:34:01,095
Speaker 7: I think that, you know, it's it's a question of

609
00:34:01,135 --> 00:34:03,535
Speaker 7: trying to find that the right person. And that might,

610
00:34:03,815 --> 00:34:06,575
Speaker 7: like I said, it might be a handy man, might

611
00:34:06,575 --> 00:34:08,935
Speaker 7: be a local builder who's a little bit experienced. It's

612
00:34:08,975 --> 00:34:11,255
Speaker 7: just a question of phoning around your friends seeing if

613
00:34:11,295 --> 00:34:16,255
Speaker 7: you can find someone who is recommended and prepared to

614
00:34:16,295 --> 00:34:17,975
Speaker 7: do those little jobs.

615
00:34:18,135 --> 00:34:19,495
Speaker 5: Yeah.

616
00:34:19,815 --> 00:34:21,695
Speaker 7: Otherwise, what I was going to suggest is if you

617
00:34:21,695 --> 00:34:24,415
Speaker 7: could take it away to get it done. There are

618
00:34:24,495 --> 00:34:29,015
Speaker 7: lots of community workshops and men's sheds in some cases

619
00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:31,855
Speaker 7: around the country. I know where I live there's a

620
00:34:31,855 --> 00:34:35,975
Speaker 7: community workshop called the Clay Store, and it's full of

621
00:34:36,735 --> 00:34:42,215
Speaker 7: very experienced with respect slightly older people who are there

622
00:34:42,295 --> 00:34:46,255
Speaker 7: who are happy to undertake those little players. So that

623
00:34:46,335 --> 00:34:48,415
Speaker 7: might be another option for you as well. I think

624
00:34:48,455 --> 00:34:51,735
Speaker 7: these community workshops are just fabulous and they might be

625
00:34:51,775 --> 00:34:55,655
Speaker 7: able to help out all the best slender take care

626
00:34:56,175 --> 00:35:00,135
Speaker 7: see them by way. Your new stalk zeb coming up

627
00:35:00,175 --> 00:35:05,175
Speaker 7: to almost twelve minutes away from seven o'clock, remember new

628
00:35:05,175 --> 00:35:08,895
Speaker 7: sport and weather. Remember our expert our painting expert Jay

629
00:35:08,975 --> 00:35:11,695
Speaker 7: from Razine will be with us at around seven twenty five,

630
00:35:12,015 --> 00:35:15,655
Speaker 7: So if you've got any specific painting questions, text them

631
00:35:15,695 --> 00:35:17,495
Speaker 7: through to nine to nine two.

632
00:35:17,855 --> 00:35:21,575
Speaker 1: Measure twice God was But maybe call Pete first d

633
00:35:21,775 --> 00:35:24,055
Speaker 1: Orgav the resident builder News Talks.

634
00:35:24,055 --> 00:35:24,375
Speaker 9: That'd be.

635
00:35:26,535 --> 00:35:29,655
Speaker 7: Part of the enduring appeal for me of doing the

636
00:35:29,695 --> 00:35:33,855
Speaker 7: show is because to be fair, like people often will say,

637
00:35:34,055 --> 00:35:36,215
Speaker 7: you know, how do you prepare for the show, And

638
00:35:36,295 --> 00:35:39,415
Speaker 7: it's not like I tell you a secret. It's not

639
00:35:39,495 --> 00:35:41,895
Speaker 7: like I arrive here two or three hours beforehand trying

640
00:35:41,935 --> 00:35:43,575
Speaker 7: to think of things to talk about on the show.

641
00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:49,375
Speaker 7: Because that's basically your job, and so I never really

642
00:35:49,535 --> 00:35:52,215
Speaker 7: know where the show is going to go unless I've

643
00:35:52,295 --> 00:35:54,095
Speaker 7: kind of got an expert on in which case we

644
00:35:54,135 --> 00:35:57,215
Speaker 7: can or a particular theme that we might want to discuss.

645
00:35:57,255 --> 00:36:01,215
Speaker 7: But generally we go wherever we're lead. Right, So, did

646
00:36:01,255 --> 00:36:03,215
Speaker 7: I know that we're going to talk about toilet bowls today?

647
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Speaker 13: No?

648
00:36:03,455 --> 00:36:05,335
Speaker 7: I didn't. Did I know that? I get a text

649
00:36:05,335 --> 00:36:08,615
Speaker 7: like this today from someone who says, I use waterproof

650
00:36:08,655 --> 00:36:11,655
Speaker 7: sandpaper and the toilet with some rubber gloves. It worked perfectly.

651
00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:20,215
Speaker 7: That's remarkable. Someone who's lived on a properly with a

652
00:36:20,255 --> 00:36:22,095
Speaker 7: boar had a filter on the pump that we would

653
00:36:22,135 --> 00:36:24,695
Speaker 7: clean regularly as it did get very brown. It stopped

654
00:36:24,695 --> 00:36:27,775
Speaker 7: any discolouration of the toilet or the shower. Look, I'm

655
00:36:27,815 --> 00:36:34,095
Speaker 7: on council supply right on the city, and we installed

656
00:36:34,255 --> 00:36:39,135
Speaker 7: a fairly large filter underneath the kitchen tap when we

657
00:36:39,175 --> 00:36:41,175
Speaker 7: did the kitchen. That's quite a few years ago now,

658
00:36:41,735 --> 00:36:44,175
Speaker 7: and so once a year I pull out that filter,

659
00:36:44,415 --> 00:36:46,815
Speaker 7: throw that out and put a new one in. And

660
00:36:46,855 --> 00:36:49,735
Speaker 7: it is remarkable looking at the state of that filter

661
00:36:50,855 --> 00:36:54,495
Speaker 7: after one year's use. When I forgot one year and

662
00:36:54,535 --> 00:36:56,935
Speaker 7: did it after two years, it was even worse obviously,

663
00:36:57,015 --> 00:36:59,815
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think putting a filter on is a

664
00:36:59,855 --> 00:37:01,975
Speaker 7: really good idea. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

665
00:37:01,975 --> 00:37:04,495
Speaker 7: the number Catherine, Good morning, Oh.

666
00:37:04,495 --> 00:37:09,295
Speaker 14: Good morning, Peach, good morning. We have four bay windows

667
00:37:09,415 --> 00:37:12,975
Speaker 14: on our nineteen forties wooden bungalow.

668
00:37:14,255 --> 00:37:14,855
Speaker 15: Itself.

669
00:37:14,935 --> 00:37:18,255
Speaker 14: The big main roof was re roofed several years ago,

670
00:37:18,415 --> 00:37:23,655
Speaker 14: no issues there, but the bay windows are flat and

671
00:37:23,735 --> 00:37:28,415
Speaker 14: they weren't reroofed at the time of the other job

672
00:37:28,415 --> 00:37:35,295
Speaker 14: being done, and more recently one of them started to lift.

673
00:37:35,455 --> 00:37:37,255
Speaker 14: I even had to call the fiber games because it

674
00:37:37,295 --> 00:37:42,655
Speaker 14: was flatting. So the firemen were great. They sort of

675
00:37:42,895 --> 00:37:44,855
Speaker 14: drilled it down, nailed it down, and said we needed

676
00:37:44,855 --> 00:37:48,335
Speaker 14: to get them reviewed. My reason for bringing you is

677
00:37:48,375 --> 00:37:54,695
Speaker 14: that we have had one roof mentioned that he thought

678
00:37:55,255 --> 00:38:01,455
Speaker 14: fiberglass would be better to apply to the flat roofs

679
00:38:01,495 --> 00:38:07,975
Speaker 14: over they plywood down as the base, as opposed to

680
00:38:07,975 --> 00:38:11,455
Speaker 14: two others who've and he was willing. He quoted for

681
00:38:11,495 --> 00:38:17,135
Speaker 14: beautanol as well, and the quotes are very similar. And

682
00:38:17,175 --> 00:38:22,215
Speaker 14: then the other two have mentioned only beauti and ol,

683
00:38:23,415 --> 00:38:27,375
Speaker 14: so we've not heard of the fiberglass as a roof

684
00:38:27,415 --> 00:38:32,935
Speaker 14: and product. But he seemed he said that they apply

685
00:38:33,055 --> 00:38:36,215
Speaker 14: as the men who apply to are certified, and that

686
00:38:36,335 --> 00:38:41,135
Speaker 14: would be a twenty year guarantee warrantee. I just wondered

687
00:38:41,175 --> 00:38:45,695
Speaker 14: whether you, oh, maybe it was tena warranty. But anyway,

688
00:38:45,735 --> 00:38:48,495
Speaker 14: do you know anything about fiberglass on bay window?

689
00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:53,855
Speaker 7: Look, the part of my response to this is along

690
00:38:53,895 --> 00:38:59,015
Speaker 7: heritage lines. Right. So, given the style of the house

691
00:38:59,255 --> 00:39:02,455
Speaker 7: and the vintage of the house and the original sort

692
00:39:02,455 --> 00:39:06,615
Speaker 7: of building methodology, what they would have had is sounds

693
00:39:06,655 --> 00:39:09,975
Speaker 7: like a flat sheet with a standing scene. There'd be a.

694
00:39:10,015 --> 00:39:10,895
Speaker 5: Number of little up.

695
00:39:11,175 --> 00:39:12,455
Speaker 14: Now there's copper.

696
00:39:12,575 --> 00:39:14,495
Speaker 7: It's copper. Wow, it's copper.

697
00:39:14,695 --> 00:39:17,735
Speaker 14: Okay, and yeah, but you can't see that it's copper.

698
00:39:18,415 --> 00:39:21,655
Speaker 14: The extension that was done only twenty years or fifty

699
00:39:21,695 --> 00:39:25,855
Speaker 14: years ago is beautiful, but even that has started to lift.

700
00:39:25,975 --> 00:39:30,455
Speaker 14: We do live in a windy part of the country. Yeah,

701
00:39:30,495 --> 00:39:34,095
Speaker 14: and a comment was made by this person that when

702
00:39:34,095 --> 00:39:37,775
Speaker 14: the house was repainted only a couple of years ago. No, sorry,

703
00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:43,175
Speaker 14: regut it. That maybe the positioning of the class on

704
00:39:43,295 --> 00:39:47,455
Speaker 14: the cop of it that's lifted. And why you know,

705
00:39:47,815 --> 00:39:51,815
Speaker 14: while we had this mini emergency, Yeah, we just placed a.

706
00:39:51,735 --> 00:39:53,695
Speaker 7: Couple of thoughts because we're going to crash into the

707
00:39:53,735 --> 00:39:56,735
Speaker 7: news of the minute. So look, from my point of view,

708
00:39:58,215 --> 00:40:00,695
Speaker 7: I would probably suggest to you, could you look at

709
00:40:00,935 --> 00:40:04,175
Speaker 7: redoing it in copper. Now, copper is expensive, so I

710
00:40:04,255 --> 00:40:08,895
Speaker 7: understand why you wouldn't go there. Could you do the

711
00:40:08,935 --> 00:40:12,695
Speaker 7: same type of construction or the same type of materials

712
00:40:14,255 --> 00:40:17,015
Speaker 7: in let's say, just a color steel sheet, right, So.

713
00:40:17,335 --> 00:40:19,895
Speaker 14: They've looked at that, they said it's really tricky to

714
00:40:19,895 --> 00:40:22,135
Speaker 14: get underneath it is the face or something.

715
00:40:22,735 --> 00:40:22,975
Speaker 7: Yeah.

716
00:40:24,335 --> 00:40:25,615
Speaker 13: Yeah, to be.

717
00:40:25,535 --> 00:40:27,735
Speaker 14: Honest, I don't want to be a full of stine,

718
00:40:28,055 --> 00:40:30,855
Speaker 14: but I don't think we would be looking it's a

719
00:40:30,855 --> 00:40:31,415
Speaker 14: lovely hime.

720
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Speaker 7: I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, look, the fiberglass is

721
00:40:39,415 --> 00:40:43,575
Speaker 7: an option in terms of they could redo the substrate.

722
00:40:43,695 --> 00:40:46,015
Speaker 7: So they need to put down some ply ideally with

723
00:40:46,055 --> 00:40:48,295
Speaker 7: a little bit of fall. Like most of those roofs

724
00:40:48,295 --> 00:40:51,375
Speaker 7: have very minimal fall, so if you could, if they

725
00:40:51,375 --> 00:40:52,895
Speaker 7: could shape it in such a way that you had

726
00:40:52,895 --> 00:40:55,015
Speaker 7: a little bit more fall. The other thing you've got

727
00:40:55,055 --> 00:40:57,415
Speaker 7: to be really careful about is how you detail the

728
00:40:57,495 --> 00:41:00,935
Speaker 7: drip edge. So it would need perhaps a bit of

729
00:41:01,095 --> 00:41:04,535
Speaker 7: stainless steel that you route a slot in and you

730
00:41:04,575 --> 00:41:07,575
Speaker 7: put that in to sure that the water drains into

731
00:41:07,575 --> 00:41:09,775
Speaker 7: there and yes you could do a fiberglass you could

732
00:41:09,815 --> 00:41:12,215
Speaker 7: also the other option is to look at a TPO.

733
00:41:12,895 --> 00:41:15,815
Speaker 7: I'll give you more detail after the news top of

734
00:41:15,815 --> 00:41:19,335
Speaker 7: the hour, Thanks very much. Catherine back after new Sport and.

735
00:41:19,335 --> 00:41:23,655
Speaker 1: Weather doing up the house, storting the garden, asked Pete

736
00:41:23,695 --> 00:41:27,015
Speaker 1: for a hand the resident builder with Peter wolfcap call

737
00:41:27,135 --> 00:41:30,895
Speaker 1: oh eight News talks'b year with News talks'd.

738
00:41:31,015 --> 00:41:33,415
Speaker 7: We're taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten

739
00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:36,495
Speaker 7: eighty at around seven twenty five this morning. We've got Jay,

740
00:41:36,575 --> 00:41:39,375
Speaker 7: our painting expert from Razine available, so if you've got

741
00:41:39,415 --> 00:41:43,655
Speaker 7: any specific painting questions text them through nine two niney two.

742
00:41:44,055 --> 00:41:46,175
Speaker 7: And of course in the next hour of the show

743
00:41:46,255 --> 00:41:48,815
Speaker 7: at eight thirty, we're into the garden with redclimb passed

744
00:41:48,895 --> 00:41:51,855
Speaker 7: as always. Just before the break, we were just chatting

745
00:41:51,855 --> 00:41:55,855
Speaker 7: with Catherine about replacing the roofing on a bay window.

746
00:41:55,975 --> 00:41:58,775
Speaker 7: So the nineteen forties house, it would have had some

747
00:41:59,775 --> 00:42:03,455
Speaker 7: copper in your case, sometimes it's just sheet metal with

748
00:42:03,535 --> 00:42:06,055
Speaker 7: a little standing seam and so on. So Cather and

749
00:42:06,055 --> 00:42:08,775
Speaker 7: I I think the thing to ask the contractors who

750
00:42:09,295 --> 00:42:11,095
Speaker 7: are looking at doing the job is how are they

751
00:42:11,135 --> 00:42:13,935
Speaker 7: going to especially if they use like a fiberglass product,

752
00:42:14,175 --> 00:42:16,375
Speaker 7: how are they going to create a drip edge at

753
00:42:16,415 --> 00:42:19,495
Speaker 7: the end of the ply substrate that will mean that

754
00:42:19,495 --> 00:42:22,655
Speaker 7: the water drips off rather than just get sucked back

755
00:42:22,735 --> 00:42:26,175
Speaker 7: up underneath there and into the spouting. And then the

756
00:42:26,215 --> 00:42:27,895
Speaker 7: other part of this is how are they going to

757
00:42:27,975 --> 00:42:32,335
Speaker 7: flash that against the building where it might be close

758
00:42:32,415 --> 00:42:34,615
Speaker 7: to the safit or do they need to take a

759
00:42:34,615 --> 00:42:37,335
Speaker 7: couple of weatherboards off and do a flashing there that

760
00:42:37,495 --> 00:42:44,215
Speaker 7: sort of thing, because just putting fiberglass on isn't the solution. Okay,

761
00:42:44,575 --> 00:42:46,735
Speaker 7: it's all those flashing details that you really need to

762
00:42:46,775 --> 00:42:49,415
Speaker 7: talk to the builder about and ask questions about.

763
00:42:50,455 --> 00:42:52,135
Speaker 15: All right, thank you very much.

764
00:42:52,215 --> 00:42:54,655
Speaker 7: And this one other product that's out there as well,

765
00:42:54,655 --> 00:42:58,775
Speaker 7: it's similar. It's a membrane sheet which is called TPO,

766
00:43:00,175 --> 00:43:06,575
Speaker 7: which is as it happens, that's thermoplastic olephin SOPO is

767
00:43:06,615 --> 00:43:10,775
Speaker 7: increasingly common, and it's it's also a very good product

768
00:43:10,815 --> 00:43:12,335
Speaker 7: for those sorts of surfaces.

769
00:43:13,975 --> 00:43:16,855
Speaker 13: Okay, so I'll write that down, thank you very much.

770
00:43:18,975 --> 00:43:20,535
Speaker 10: Okay, you take care.

771
00:43:20,695 --> 00:43:23,055
Speaker 7: By other Catherine oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

772
00:43:23,095 --> 00:43:25,615
Speaker 7: If you've got a question like this text Pete can

773
00:43:25,655 --> 00:43:29,815
Speaker 7: you confirm if a four stud walls four stud walls

774
00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:33,815
Speaker 7: holding only a light ceiling are load bearing or is

775
00:43:33,855 --> 00:43:36,735
Speaker 7: any wall holding up anything other than itself considered to

776
00:43:36,775 --> 00:43:39,975
Speaker 7: be load bearing. The whole point I guess of a

777
00:43:40,015 --> 00:43:42,735
Speaker 7: load bearing wall is it's supporting something above it. So,

778
00:43:42,895 --> 00:43:45,455
Speaker 7: for example, it might be a petition in the middle

779
00:43:45,455 --> 00:43:48,415
Speaker 7: of a room or the middle of a building that

780
00:43:48,855 --> 00:43:52,335
Speaker 7: is there because the span of the rafters don't go

781
00:43:52,495 --> 00:43:54,695
Speaker 7: from one side of the building to the other. They

782
00:43:55,015 --> 00:44:00,695
Speaker 7: stop midway, they land on top of that wall, and

783
00:44:00,815 --> 00:44:04,735
Speaker 7: then that wall becomes load bearing. Or obviously, if it's

784
00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:08,135
Speaker 7: two story structure, most of downstairs as load bearing, depending

785
00:44:08,135 --> 00:44:12,735
Speaker 7: on which direction the joists would run. So look, I

786
00:44:12,775 --> 00:44:16,295
Speaker 7: think if you're asking that question, the best person to

787
00:44:16,295 --> 00:44:20,255
Speaker 7: ask that question too would be someone on site, either

788
00:44:20,335 --> 00:44:25,975
Speaker 7: an architectural designer, architect qualify license building practitioner, structural engineer.

789
00:44:25,975 --> 00:44:29,215
Speaker 7: You probably don't need to go that far, but certainly

790
00:44:29,215 --> 00:44:32,255
Speaker 7: an experienced LBP should be able to give you an

791
00:44:32,255 --> 00:44:35,215
Speaker 7: idea as to whether or not that wall is load bearing.

792
00:44:38,135 --> 00:44:42,735
Speaker 7: Relatively simple to answer that question if you're on site,

793
00:44:42,935 --> 00:44:47,255
Speaker 7: a little bit tricky to do it via text missing. Oh,

794
00:44:47,295 --> 00:44:49,255
Speaker 7: and we're starting to get some questions for Jay, which

795
00:44:49,335 --> 00:44:52,295
Speaker 7: is great. So if you've got any specific painting questions.

796
00:44:52,375 --> 00:44:54,655
Speaker 7: And I was chatting with Jay during the week and

797
00:44:54,695 --> 00:44:56,735
Speaker 7: I said, look, this is the experience that I had

798
00:44:57,375 --> 00:45:00,255
Speaker 7: where I went round on a project that I'm supervising

799
00:45:01,215 --> 00:45:04,575
Speaker 7: to mark up areas that I wanted the painters to

800
00:45:04,615 --> 00:45:07,415
Speaker 7: just do some targeted repairs, right. I felt that it

801
00:45:07,415 --> 00:45:09,935
Speaker 7: didn't need a complete repaint, we just needed to address

802
00:45:09,935 --> 00:45:12,975
Speaker 7: a couple of areas. And the painter rang me a

803
00:45:13,055 --> 00:45:15,175
Speaker 7: day later and said, look, when I've been on site

804
00:45:15,215 --> 00:45:17,775
Speaker 7: and I've started taking off those bits of masking tape

805
00:45:17,775 --> 00:45:19,815
Speaker 7: that you put on to identify the areas that I

806
00:45:19,895 --> 00:45:23,735
Speaker 7: needed to repair, and the paint's coming off with the

807
00:45:23,775 --> 00:45:27,095
Speaker 7: masking tape. So what does that tell you about the

808
00:45:27,215 --> 00:45:29,655
Speaker 7: quality of the paint system that was on there or

809
00:45:29,695 --> 00:45:32,295
Speaker 7: has it reached the end of its serviceable life? Those

810
00:45:32,335 --> 00:45:35,535
Speaker 7: sorts of questions we can talk to Jay about at

811
00:45:35,575 --> 00:45:37,655
Speaker 7: around seven twenty five this morning. But if you've got

812
00:45:37,655 --> 00:45:40,135
Speaker 7: a question right now, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty

813
00:45:40,255 --> 00:45:45,855
Speaker 7: is that number to call Quilla Decking? What happens if

814
00:45:45,855 --> 00:45:48,175
Speaker 7: I don't leach out all the oils before you stay

815
00:45:48,175 --> 00:45:49,855
Speaker 7: in it. That's a very good question. We'll put that

816
00:45:50,335 --> 00:46:01,775
Speaker 7: to very slightly interesting text that's just come through that

817
00:46:01,815 --> 00:46:03,975
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure out what they're actually talking about.

818
00:46:04,295 --> 00:46:05,575
Speaker 7: We'll have a look at that in the moment. Oh

819
00:46:05,575 --> 00:46:08,935
Speaker 7: eight eight is the number to call John. Good morning

820
00:46:08,935 --> 00:46:09,375
Speaker 7: to you.

821
00:46:10,335 --> 00:46:11,335
Speaker 16: Good morning to your pet.

822
00:46:11,495 --> 00:46:12,095
Speaker 7: Hey there John.

823
00:46:14,415 --> 00:46:20,055
Speaker 16: Contractual problem on building. We had a part person under

824
00:46:20,415 --> 00:46:25,775
Speaker 16: our house and of course insurance claim, you know, flooring removed,

825
00:46:25,895 --> 00:46:28,495
Speaker 16: jib removed whatever in the in the on suites, and

826
00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:34,015
Speaker 16: that it was quite extensive work. And then at the

827
00:46:34,135 --> 00:46:36,375
Speaker 16: same time we decided, well, we're doing all this work,

828
00:46:36,495 --> 00:46:39,735
Speaker 16: let's make some changes to the on suite and a

829
00:46:39,775 --> 00:46:45,895
Speaker 16: few other rooms. We've signed the contract with the builder

830
00:46:46,855 --> 00:46:51,055
Speaker 16: for the insurance part, but then to do the additional work,

831
00:46:51,095 --> 00:46:53,815
Speaker 16: we end up with a we agreed on a sort

832
00:46:53,815 --> 00:46:57,615
Speaker 16: of a cost pers ten basis. We end up with

833
00:46:57,695 --> 00:47:00,695
Speaker 16: a contract that's a thirty seven page contract to sign

834
00:47:00,815 --> 00:47:05,495
Speaker 16: that needs a lawyer to read through it properly. Is

835
00:47:05,535 --> 00:47:08,935
Speaker 16: there a contract that's reasonable for people that to get

836
00:47:08,975 --> 00:47:12,255
Speaker 16: that without getting lawyers involved in knowing what you're signing?

837
00:47:14,575 --> 00:47:17,615
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I think a good contract, well

838
00:47:17,655 --> 00:47:20,975
Speaker 7: detailed is really important and in fact, it's required by

839
00:47:21,095 --> 00:47:23,215
Speaker 7: law if the value of the building work is more

840
00:47:23,215 --> 00:47:26,495
Speaker 7: than thirty thousand dollars. So it's good that there's a

841
00:47:26,495 --> 00:47:29,695
Speaker 7: contract there. I didn't realize, to be fair, that some

842
00:47:29,815 --> 00:47:33,335
Speaker 7: building contracts run to thirty seven pages. That does seem

843
00:47:33,415 --> 00:47:37,815
Speaker 7: a bit excessive, and good on you for not just

844
00:47:38,375 --> 00:47:42,055
Speaker 7: going to the last page in signing your name and

845
00:47:42,055 --> 00:47:47,615
Speaker 7: your life away. For example, like there are standard contracts

846
00:47:47,655 --> 00:47:52,215
Speaker 7: that are developed and designed by some of the builders organizations,

847
00:47:52,215 --> 00:47:55,855
Speaker 7: So for example New Zealand Certified Builders in ZTCB or

848
00:47:56,055 --> 00:48:01,335
Speaker 7: Master Builders will have their own. Sometimes the New Zealand

849
00:48:01,375 --> 00:48:04,615
Speaker 7: Institute of Architects would have kind of a standard building

850
00:48:04,655 --> 00:48:08,135
Speaker 7: contract that their members might able to offer to clients

851
00:48:08,495 --> 00:48:13,775
Speaker 7: to engage with their builders. You can download contracts from

852
00:48:14,375 --> 00:48:16,895
Speaker 7: the government website that has so if you go to

853
00:48:16,935 --> 00:48:18,815
Speaker 7: building dot gov dot nz and have a bit of

854
00:48:18,815 --> 00:48:21,215
Speaker 7: a search around there, there will be some sort of

855
00:48:21,295 --> 00:48:24,535
Speaker 7: standard type contracts. But that would mean that you would

856
00:48:24,575 --> 00:48:27,095
Speaker 7: then need to prepare a contract and get your builder

857
00:48:27,135 --> 00:48:29,255
Speaker 7: to sign it, as opposed to what's happening at the moment,

858
00:48:29,295 --> 00:48:32,175
Speaker 7: which is your builder has presented you with a contract

859
00:48:32,455 --> 00:48:36,295
Speaker 7: and expecting you to sign it, and I think just

860
00:48:36,415 --> 00:48:40,775
Speaker 7: as an aside, it does. And I've heard this from

861
00:48:40,815 --> 00:48:42,735
Speaker 7: a number of lawyers that I've talked about these sorts

862
00:48:42,775 --> 00:48:47,015
Speaker 7: of things. Just in general, there should be some negotiation.

863
00:48:47,175 --> 00:48:49,935
Speaker 7: Just because the contract's presented to you as a homeowner

864
00:48:50,375 --> 00:48:53,295
Speaker 7: doesn't mean that you accept all of the terms and conditions.

865
00:48:53,375 --> 00:48:56,535
Speaker 7: And you know, if you've got some familiarity with contracts,

866
00:48:56,575 --> 00:48:59,175
Speaker 7: then you might feel confident reading through it yourself and

867
00:48:59,255 --> 00:49:01,895
Speaker 7: deciding whether it's going to be fair. But if you don't,

868
00:49:01,935 --> 00:49:04,615
Speaker 7: then typically you need to get professional advice. But then

869
00:49:04,615 --> 00:49:06,295
Speaker 7: you're going to have to pay for that as well.

870
00:49:07,055 --> 00:49:07,455
Speaker 10: Of course.

871
00:49:07,575 --> 00:49:11,895
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, so there are some standard ones. I mean,

872
00:49:13,215 --> 00:49:16,175
Speaker 7: without going into too much detail, the contract that was

873
00:49:16,215 --> 00:49:20,775
Speaker 7: offered to you that runs to thirty seven pages, roughly,

874
00:49:20,815 --> 00:49:23,895
Speaker 7: what's the value of the work that has been contracted.

875
00:49:24,575 --> 00:49:28,535
Speaker 16: At the moment they've estimated forty three thousand, So okay,

876
00:49:28,655 --> 00:49:29,975
Speaker 16: so that need a contract.

877
00:49:29,695 --> 00:49:31,815
Speaker 7: Again, it triggers a requirement, and I think that's a

878
00:49:31,855 --> 00:49:35,615
Speaker 7: really good thing. Looking at the contract, does it feel

879
00:49:35,615 --> 00:49:39,455
Speaker 7: like it's got the water mark, let's say, of you know,

880
00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:43,775
Speaker 7: it's a templated one from a one of those organizations,

881
00:49:43,895 --> 00:49:46,175
Speaker 7: or is this something that because you know, as a

882
00:49:46,295 --> 00:49:48,175
Speaker 7: as a building owner, you could go to your own

883
00:49:48,255 --> 00:49:50,935
Speaker 7: lawyer and go draw me up a standard template for

884
00:49:51,055 --> 00:49:55,535
Speaker 7: a construction contract that I can use that that's probably

885
00:49:55,575 --> 00:49:57,415
Speaker 7: going to be in their favor, and that's the nature

886
00:49:57,455 --> 00:49:59,615
Speaker 7: of it. So you just need to decide whether or

887
00:49:59,615 --> 00:50:02,815
Speaker 7: not it's weighted too heavily in favor of the person

888
00:50:02,895 --> 00:50:05,335
Speaker 7: offering the contract, or whether you would want to push

889
00:50:05,375 --> 00:50:06,295
Speaker 7: back on some issues.

890
00:50:08,095 --> 00:50:10,535
Speaker 16: Okay, yeah, I know there's certainly some issues on one

891
00:50:10,575 --> 00:50:13,575
Speaker 16: do you expect on because as I said, there's nothing

892
00:50:13,615 --> 00:50:18,455
Speaker 16: on the nothing on the owner's side besides pain and

893
00:50:18,855 --> 00:50:24,015
Speaker 16: and it just refers to, for instance, the plans that

894
00:50:24,055 --> 00:50:26,975
Speaker 16: I had drawn up, but it doesn't actually say it

895
00:50:27,015 --> 00:50:30,255
Speaker 16: doesn't cover item by items, so you don't know execut

896
00:50:30,415 --> 00:50:34,135
Speaker 16: each item that's covered. Yeah, they may miss a few

897
00:50:34,135 --> 00:50:36,975
Speaker 16: plumbing points, they may miss the electrical points, and all

898
00:50:37,015 --> 00:50:43,535
Speaker 16: those will end up adding it, right, Yes, that is sometimes,

899
00:50:43,895 --> 00:50:45,575
Speaker 16: so we are hoping on working on that.

900
00:50:46,695 --> 00:50:46,935
Speaker 17: Yeah.

901
00:50:47,335 --> 00:50:49,495
Speaker 7: I guess the challenge with these sorts of things is,

902
00:50:50,495 --> 00:50:53,135
Speaker 7: you know, for for jobs that are essentially a cost

903
00:50:53,135 --> 00:50:57,855
Speaker 7: plus basis, is determining the scope of that, you know,

904
00:50:58,175 --> 00:51:00,775
Speaker 7: like do you one of the way or one of

905
00:51:00,775 --> 00:51:02,375
Speaker 7: the things that I've seen is where you sort of

906
00:51:02,375 --> 00:51:06,775
Speaker 7: set milestones, so rather than just being time and materials

907
00:51:07,295 --> 00:51:11,375
Speaker 7: that you agree that, you know, after one week this

908
00:51:11,495 --> 00:51:14,255
Speaker 7: type of work will be completed after two weeks this about,

909
00:51:14,815 --> 00:51:18,175
Speaker 7: or we expect to spend this many hours to get

910
00:51:18,215 --> 00:51:21,215
Speaker 7: to let's say pre lining stage, so that you're not

911
00:51:21,575 --> 00:51:24,455
Speaker 7: in a situation where you have no guide as to

912
00:51:25,255 --> 00:51:29,295
Speaker 7: you know, is the builder working efficiently and quickly or

913
00:51:29,375 --> 00:51:33,175
Speaker 7: are they taking too long because there's no there's no

914
00:51:33,295 --> 00:51:36,815
Speaker 7: incentive for them to achieve any goals because they're just

915
00:51:36,855 --> 00:51:39,495
Speaker 7: getting paid for their time on site, you know what

916
00:51:39,535 --> 00:51:44,415
Speaker 7: I mean? Yeah, that's it is one of the challenging things.

917
00:51:45,495 --> 00:51:47,215
Speaker 7: In fact, I had a long discussion with it made

918
00:51:47,215 --> 00:51:49,895
Speaker 7: about this a little while ago. Who's about to start

919
00:51:49,935 --> 00:51:54,975
Speaker 7: a new build and knows the builder particularly well, you know,

920
00:51:55,295 --> 00:51:58,095
Speaker 7: a good acquaintance sort of thing, and is thinking, well,

921
00:51:58,095 --> 00:52:01,455
Speaker 7: maybe we should do it as a time and materials

922
00:52:01,695 --> 00:52:03,815
Speaker 7: you know, I trust them to work efficiently and so on,

923
00:52:03,895 --> 00:52:06,935
Speaker 7: And yet advice from other people has been no, regardless,

924
00:52:07,215 --> 00:52:10,495
Speaker 7: get a fixed price contract, knowing that that will then

925
00:52:10,655 --> 00:52:12,855
Speaker 7: they the risk then goes to the builder, and the

926
00:52:12,855 --> 00:52:16,495
Speaker 7: builder is going to allow for that risk and their pricing,

927
00:52:16,655 --> 00:52:19,135
Speaker 7: and so their pricing might be fractionally higher, but it

928
00:52:19,175 --> 00:52:22,655
Speaker 7: takes all of the risk away from the person who's

929
00:52:22,695 --> 00:52:26,175
Speaker 7: going to be the owner of that new house. It's

930
00:52:26,175 --> 00:52:30,655
Speaker 7: a fascinating area. Okay, good luck, John, It's good. All

931
00:52:30,655 --> 00:52:33,255
Speaker 7: the best mots for that input. Take care all the best, Bob.

932
00:52:33,295 --> 00:52:35,095
Speaker 7: I think if you want to talk contracts, oh, eight

933
00:52:35,175 --> 00:52:37,415
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty ten eighty, we can do that. We're

934
00:52:37,455 --> 00:52:40,695
Speaker 7: kind to talk with j our painting expert fairly soon.

935
00:52:40,735 --> 00:52:44,535
Speaker 7: So if you've got any specific painting questions, fire them through.

936
00:52:44,975 --> 00:52:47,055
Speaker 7: My first one is going to be, hey, look if

937
00:52:47,095 --> 00:52:49,815
Speaker 7: I've put a bit of masking tape not super sticky

938
00:52:49,855 --> 00:52:53,655
Speaker 7: tape on some exterior paint on some weatherboards, some timber weatherboards,

939
00:52:53,815 --> 00:52:56,295
Speaker 7: and I peel that off and it's peled off the paint,

940
00:52:56,335 --> 00:52:59,055
Speaker 7: what's that saying about the paint system that's on there?

941
00:52:59,695 --> 00:53:01,855
Speaker 7: What sort of warning does that give you as a

942
00:53:01,855 --> 00:53:05,855
Speaker 7: as a homeowner potentially about the conditional quality of the

943
00:53:05,855 --> 00:53:09,175
Speaker 7: paints them. That's there. We're going to talk to Jay shortly.

944
00:53:09,615 --> 00:53:13,335
Speaker 7: You can text through nine to nine two our Razine

945
00:53:13,375 --> 00:53:14,975
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946
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971
00:54:37,935 --> 00:54:41,575
Speaker 7: Oh, j our painting expert from Razine is with us.

972
00:54:41,575 --> 00:54:43,015
Speaker 7: A very good morning to you.

973
00:54:43,855 --> 00:54:44,895
Speaker 11: Good morning mate.

974
00:54:45,495 --> 00:54:46,935
Speaker 7: I dare not raise it, but were you at the

975
00:54:46,935 --> 00:54:48,335
Speaker 7: game last night? By any shots?

976
00:54:49,015 --> 00:54:50,335
Speaker 11: No, it was watching that.

977
00:54:51,815 --> 00:54:53,655
Speaker 7: Well. That saves you a long trip feeling a bit

978
00:54:53,655 --> 00:54:57,375
Speaker 7: grumpy on the way, doesn't it. Yeah, we're talking about

979
00:54:57,375 --> 00:55:00,695
Speaker 7: the Warriors. Obviously I didn't pick you as a Crusaders fan. Anyway,

980
00:55:01,455 --> 00:55:03,895
Speaker 7: I did watch that game as well. But very good.

981
00:55:03,975 --> 00:55:08,495
Speaker 7: That's multitasking. A yeah, yeah, good on you, Jay, our

982
00:55:08,535 --> 00:55:11,415
Speaker 7: painting expert. Can I just run through the issue that

983
00:55:11,455 --> 00:55:14,535
Speaker 7: I raised with you, and this was I'm not surprised.

984
00:55:14,575 --> 00:55:16,575
Speaker 7: I've heard of this as a kind of a test

985
00:55:16,815 --> 00:55:20,095
Speaker 7: or a technique to test how good your paint system is,

986
00:55:20,135 --> 00:55:22,815
Speaker 7: because you know, for most of us we look at paint.

987
00:55:22,855 --> 00:55:25,415
Speaker 7: If it's stuck to the wall, then it's working. So

988
00:55:25,575 --> 00:55:29,175
Speaker 7: what I found is that I've got some guys around

989
00:55:29,175 --> 00:55:32,575
Speaker 7: to do some just minor touch ups on an exterior,

990
00:55:33,135 --> 00:55:35,815
Speaker 7: and I thought, well, to give them an idea of

991
00:55:35,855 --> 00:55:38,255
Speaker 7: the scope of the job. I'll go around first with

992
00:55:38,335 --> 00:55:41,575
Speaker 7: some normal masking tape, not sort of super sticky duct

993
00:55:41,575 --> 00:55:44,095
Speaker 7: tape or anything like that, just some masking tape. Tear

994
00:55:44,135 --> 00:55:46,415
Speaker 7: off a little square of that, pop it onto the

995
00:55:46,415 --> 00:55:48,655
Speaker 7: weather board, and sort of indicate this is the area

996
00:55:48,735 --> 00:55:52,295
Speaker 7: that I want you to address. So painter Carl rings

997
00:55:52,335 --> 00:55:53,735
Speaker 7: me the next day and goes, look, I'll tell you

998
00:55:53,815 --> 00:55:55,615
Speaker 7: what the job might be a bit bigger than I expected,

999
00:55:55,655 --> 00:55:58,935
Speaker 7: because when I took the sticky the masking tape off,

1000
00:55:58,975 --> 00:56:01,975
Speaker 7: it peeled the paint off with it. What's that telling

1001
00:56:02,015 --> 00:56:05,535
Speaker 7: me about in general, about the quality of the paint

1002
00:56:05,615 --> 00:56:08,295
Speaker 7: system that's on these with the boards.

1003
00:56:08,575 --> 00:56:13,615
Speaker 11: I suppose two things, with that one being the type

1004
00:56:13,615 --> 00:56:18,015
Speaker 11: of masking tape used. Obviously there's multiple different masking tapes

1005
00:56:18,575 --> 00:56:23,975
Speaker 11: with different adhesive strengths. And the everyday sort of normal

1006
00:56:24,055 --> 00:56:26,735
Speaker 11: masking tape a lot of people have in the house

1007
00:56:26,895 --> 00:56:30,055
Speaker 11: is designed for single day use, right, so if you

1008
00:56:30,095 --> 00:56:33,375
Speaker 11: actually leave it on it can longer than that. It

1009
00:56:33,415 --> 00:56:37,655
Speaker 11: can almost get baked on by the sun and then

1010
00:56:37,695 --> 00:56:40,535
Speaker 11: becomes very hard to remove. So that might be why

1011
00:56:40,775 --> 00:56:42,735
Speaker 11: the underlying paint is being pulled off.

1012
00:56:43,255 --> 00:56:45,255
Speaker 7: It was there for a day in my case.

1013
00:56:45,575 --> 00:56:51,095
Speaker 11: Right, Okay, I'll move on to the next thing. So, yeah,

1014
00:56:51,135 --> 00:56:53,935
Speaker 11: one of the tests we do is you can put

1015
00:56:53,935 --> 00:56:57,295
Speaker 11: the masking tape on and then rip it off to

1016
00:56:57,415 --> 00:57:00,935
Speaker 11: see if the underlying paint comes off or stays there.

1017
00:57:01,175 --> 00:57:04,135
Speaker 11: Depending on how much of the paint comes off, gives

1018
00:57:04,175 --> 00:57:07,815
Speaker 11: you an indication of how solid and sound the current

1019
00:57:07,855 --> 00:57:10,695
Speaker 11: system is. So if you put in masking tape on

1020
00:57:11,415 --> 00:57:15,055
Speaker 11: a paint system that's been on for a short period

1021
00:57:15,095 --> 00:57:16,935
Speaker 11: of time or a very long period, and you're trying

1022
00:57:16,935 --> 00:57:19,375
Speaker 11: to decide whether it's a full repaint or just kind

1023
00:57:19,375 --> 00:57:22,975
Speaker 11: of touch ups, and the paint's getting pulled off and

1024
00:57:23,015 --> 00:57:26,775
Speaker 11: it's going back down to the bed timber, or several

1025
00:57:26,815 --> 00:57:29,855
Speaker 11: coats are coming off, it's kind of an indication that's

1026
00:57:29,855 --> 00:57:32,215
Speaker 11: probably time to strip everything and start again.

1027
00:57:32,775 --> 00:57:35,815
Speaker 7: Okay, so you can't. It is a sort of testing

1028
00:57:35,855 --> 00:57:40,495
Speaker 7: methodology the adhesion, I guess.

1029
00:57:40,375 --> 00:57:42,695
Speaker 11: Yeah, So, I mean that's one way. In other way,

1030
00:57:42,695 --> 00:57:44,735
Speaker 11: it's called a cross hatch at desion test where you

1031
00:57:44,815 --> 00:57:48,935
Speaker 11: actually make a grid in the coding with a knife

1032
00:57:49,095 --> 00:57:51,855
Speaker 11: and then you put the tape on. Then you rip

1033
00:57:51,895 --> 00:57:55,215
Speaker 11: it off and see see how much the coding stays

1034
00:57:55,695 --> 00:57:57,815
Speaker 11: or see how much the coding gets removed.

1035
00:57:58,855 --> 00:58:02,815
Speaker 7: Right, Okay, and when you say do a crossheach like

1036
00:58:03,535 --> 00:58:07,255
Speaker 7: four or five millimeters apart or larger.

1037
00:58:07,295 --> 00:58:12,215
Speaker 11: Well, so you're just making a grid with a knife, okay,

1038
00:58:12,975 --> 00:58:17,295
Speaker 11: like tic tac toe, kind of slightly closer together than that.

1039
00:58:18,375 --> 00:58:20,415
Speaker 11: And then you put your tape on and then rip

1040
00:58:20,455 --> 00:58:23,735
Speaker 11: it off, and then sometimes the paint sound and you're

1041
00:58:24,015 --> 00:58:25,615
Speaker 11: you're kind of all good just to fix up that

1042
00:58:25,735 --> 00:58:29,455
Speaker 11: area and recope, and sometimes a lot of the coatings

1043
00:58:29,495 --> 00:58:32,095
Speaker 11: come off and you're back down to bed timber or

1044
00:58:32,255 --> 00:58:34,455
Speaker 11: jip board and you're kind of looking at a much

1045
00:58:34,455 --> 00:58:34,975
Speaker 11: bigger job.

1046
00:58:35,415 --> 00:58:40,175
Speaker 7: Okay, right, all right, it's an interesting little methodology. Well,

1047
00:58:40,255 --> 00:58:42,735
Speaker 7: it's good amongst a couple of ticks here. First one

1048
00:58:42,815 --> 00:58:46,455
Speaker 7: up a question for Jay, fifty year old Cedar with

1049
00:58:46,615 --> 00:58:50,055
Speaker 7: the board house. The previous owner had painted the boards.

1050
00:58:50,455 --> 00:58:54,455
Speaker 7: We've then repainted a number of times, but it's bubbled

1051
00:58:54,455 --> 00:58:57,495
Speaker 7: every time, even where the boards are sheltered from the weather.

1052
00:58:57,735 --> 00:58:58,735
Speaker 7: Is there a solution?

1053
00:59:01,935 --> 00:59:03,135
Speaker 11: So, I think last time I was on it was

1054
00:59:03,215 --> 00:59:08,855
Speaker 11: questioned about Cedar and so if again, like we're just

1055
00:59:08,855 --> 00:59:11,255
Speaker 11: talking about if it's bubbling up and going back down

1056
00:59:11,295 --> 00:59:15,015
Speaker 11: to the bear substrate. The chances are one of those

1057
00:59:15,095 --> 00:59:19,255
Speaker 11: additional Either the original primer is just come to the

1058
00:59:19,335 --> 00:59:21,615
Speaker 11: end of its life, which means you're going to have

1059
00:59:21,655 --> 00:59:25,895
Speaker 11: to strip everything right. The other thing with cedar is

1060
00:59:26,015 --> 00:59:29,015
Speaker 11: a lot of the time it's stained, and then when

1061
00:59:29,135 --> 00:59:31,575
Speaker 11: people don't want to keep up with the maintenance of

1062
00:59:31,655 --> 00:59:34,655
Speaker 11: the same, they decide to paint, and if they don't

1063
00:59:34,695 --> 00:59:38,535
Speaker 11: do the preparation prime properly, you can end up with

1064
00:59:38,695 --> 00:59:41,895
Speaker 11: issues down the line with the paint not being compatible

1065
00:59:41,975 --> 00:59:45,695
Speaker 11: adhering to the stain that's in the timber, and then

1066
00:59:45,735 --> 00:59:49,175
Speaker 11: you can get bubbles and blisters. But in this case,

1067
00:59:49,295 --> 00:59:51,895
Speaker 11: it's been painted multiple times and it's all sort of

1068
00:59:51,935 --> 00:59:55,455
Speaker 11: bubbling up. It's really where when you cut one of

1069
00:59:55,495 --> 01:00:01,535
Speaker 11: those bubbles open where it's losing its adherence, is it

1070
01:00:01,615 --> 01:00:03,655
Speaker 11: back to their timber or is it back to one

1071
01:00:03,695 --> 01:00:07,495
Speaker 11: of the underlying coatings of paint. But realistically you need

1072
01:00:07,535 --> 01:00:12,015
Speaker 11: to strip back to wherever it's it's losing its adherence

1073
01:00:12,215 --> 01:00:13,375
Speaker 11: and start start again.

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01:00:14,415 --> 01:00:17,095
Speaker 7: And it's that classic thing of you know, applying a

1075
01:00:17,175 --> 01:00:20,055
Speaker 7: code of paint to a code of paint that's going

1076
01:00:20,095 --> 01:00:24,735
Speaker 7: to fail won't stop that failure. It just means that

1077
01:00:24,215 --> 01:00:26,655
Speaker 7: that lower level is going to peel off, and that's

1078
01:00:26,695 --> 01:00:27,335
Speaker 7: the issue.

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01:00:27,855 --> 01:00:30,535
Speaker 11: Yeah, putting another code of paint over isn't going to help.

1080
01:00:30,855 --> 01:00:36,535
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, brilliant. Right. We have some dressed H four

1081
01:00:36,655 --> 01:00:39,575
Speaker 7: posts that support a roof that extends over some of

1082
01:00:39,615 --> 01:00:41,775
Speaker 7: the external deck. They've never had a sealer on it.

1083
01:00:42,175 --> 01:00:45,815
Speaker 7: What prep and clear seiler or similar would you recommend?

1084
01:00:45,895 --> 01:00:51,375
Speaker 7: So H four posts, so they're tenalize their treatment and

1085
01:00:51,415 --> 01:00:53,295
Speaker 7: they want to keep them clear.

1086
01:00:55,815 --> 01:00:59,015
Speaker 11: The problem with clears on exteriors is there's no UV

1087
01:00:59,175 --> 01:01:02,175
Speaker 11: blockers in that so any clear you kind of put

1088
01:01:02,215 --> 01:01:06,575
Speaker 11: on is likely to either not last very long or

1089
01:01:06,975 --> 01:01:10,455
Speaker 11: timber still gets damaged by the UV and then the

1090
01:01:10,495 --> 01:01:14,255
Speaker 11: coding breaks down because the timber's breaking down. I mean,

1091
01:01:14,495 --> 01:01:16,735
Speaker 11: if you want to keep it as clear as possible,

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01:01:16,935 --> 01:01:21,975
Speaker 11: there's stains like the Razine Woodsman, there's a natural color.

1093
01:01:22,735 --> 01:01:26,415
Speaker 11: It looks like it's just natural timber, but at least

1094
01:01:26,415 --> 01:01:30,455
Speaker 11: there's some tintin net. So there's some new V blockers. Well,

1095
01:01:30,655 --> 01:01:35,055
Speaker 11: so we've got the new Woodsman feder natural wood oil.

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01:01:35,735 --> 01:01:38,575
Speaker 11: There's another option as well, but obviously, like I said,

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Speaker 11: they would stain. There is maintenance involved in having to

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01:01:42,935 --> 01:01:46,575
Speaker 11: restain probably every couple of summers and I.

1099
01:01:46,495 --> 01:01:49,375
Speaker 7: Guess with the maintenance rather than let it get to

1100
01:01:49,415 --> 01:01:54,375
Speaker 7: the point where the previous coat has degraded. If it's

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01:01:54,575 --> 01:01:56,695
Speaker 7: if sort of you're a little bit front footing it

1102
01:01:56,855 --> 01:01:58,775
Speaker 7: and you go, actually, I know that I've got to

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01:01:58,775 --> 01:02:01,215
Speaker 7: do it, So after maybe two summers, I'll give it

1104
01:02:01,215 --> 01:02:04,975
Speaker 7: a wash and it's much easier to recode, would I

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01:02:05,015 --> 01:02:05,375
Speaker 7: be right now?

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01:02:06,415 --> 01:02:08,575
Speaker 11: Yeah, if you keep on top of it, you sort

1107
01:02:08,575 --> 01:02:14,015
Speaker 11: of our specification system, it's a one one coat maintenance.

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01:02:14,055 --> 01:02:14,295
Speaker 9: Cope.

1109
01:02:14,535 --> 01:02:17,695
Speaker 11: Yes, if it's really kind of degraded on the north side,

1110
01:02:17,735 --> 01:02:21,655
Speaker 11: you're probably better off doing two. But yeah, if you

1111
01:02:21,735 --> 01:02:23,735
Speaker 11: keep on top of it, it's a lot easier than

1112
01:02:24,415 --> 01:02:26,335
Speaker 11: I think last time. The house haven't been staying for

1113
01:02:26,335 --> 01:02:30,175
Speaker 11: thirty years, right, you're sort of the timber is going

1114
01:02:30,175 --> 01:02:32,735
Speaker 11: to be in much better condition. You're going to protect

1115
01:02:32,735 --> 01:02:34,015
Speaker 11: it for a whole lot longer, and it's going to

1116
01:02:34,135 --> 01:02:36,335
Speaker 11: last a whole lot longer if you if you let

1117
01:02:36,335 --> 01:02:38,615
Speaker 11: it go and don't do anything, then everything's going to

1118
01:02:38,615 --> 01:02:40,415
Speaker 11: get degraded and not look as good.

1119
01:02:41,415 --> 01:02:44,135
Speaker 7: Yeah. Actually, just talking about cedar. Here we go again,

1120
01:02:44,895 --> 01:02:46,935
Speaker 7: just wondering when is the best time of year to

1121
01:02:47,015 --> 01:02:51,855
Speaker 7: stain the cedar. So what do you in terms of

1122
01:02:52,855 --> 01:02:58,495
Speaker 7: the right weather conditions for exterior staining. Now that we've

1123
01:02:58,495 --> 01:03:01,415
Speaker 7: had some decent rain and the timber is probably a

1124
01:03:01,415 --> 01:03:04,455
Speaker 7: little bit more saturated, would you wait for a while?

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01:03:05,535 --> 01:03:11,415
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's the same is painting, really, but obviously you

1126
01:03:11,455 --> 01:03:15,175
Speaker 11: want the moisture content to be less than I think

1127
01:03:15,175 --> 01:03:18,895
Speaker 11: it's eighteen percent, and you can buy moisture meters in

1128
01:03:18,975 --> 01:03:23,255
Speaker 11: your local hardware stores. Are not overly expensive, but it's

1129
01:03:23,495 --> 01:03:26,335
Speaker 11: it's the conditions when you're doing it. You want some airflow,

1130
01:03:26,495 --> 01:03:31,655
Speaker 11: you want some warmth there. We always say like if

1131
01:03:31,695 --> 01:03:34,215
Speaker 11: you close aren't going to dry on your washing line,

1132
01:03:34,255 --> 01:03:38,895
Speaker 11: your paint is not going to dry either. So I mean,

1133
01:03:38,935 --> 01:03:40,735
Speaker 11: if you're doing it, like I'm looking at the window

1134
01:03:40,735 --> 01:03:42,535
Speaker 11: at the moment, it looks like it could be a

1135
01:03:42,575 --> 01:03:45,735
Speaker 11: pretty still cold day, but it's still going to be

1136
01:03:45,855 --> 01:03:51,615
Speaker 11: funny to expect to if it's not too saturated, you

1137
01:03:51,655 --> 01:03:54,975
Speaker 11: could potentially stain today, but or paint today.

1138
01:03:55,495 --> 01:03:56,135
Speaker 9: But you're.

1139
01:03:57,655 --> 01:04:00,175
Speaker 11: Think about how long it's going to dry once you finish.

1140
01:04:00,495 --> 01:04:02,335
Speaker 11: I go too late in the day. You've got to

1141
01:04:02,335 --> 01:04:06,295
Speaker 11: give everything plenty of time to dry before the temperature

1142
01:04:06,375 --> 01:04:08,215
Speaker 11: drops again. And the due point picks.

1143
01:04:08,535 --> 01:04:13,455
Speaker 7: Yeah, fantastic Rightio nineteen eighty six fiber cement board house.

1144
01:04:13,455 --> 01:04:15,855
Speaker 7: So fiber smet with the boards. They want to repaint

1145
01:04:15,935 --> 01:04:19,455
Speaker 7: the paints in reasonable condition? Do I need a primer

1146
01:04:19,655 --> 01:04:23,655
Speaker 7: before repainting? So how would you go about deciding on

1147
01:04:23,855 --> 01:04:27,615
Speaker 7: that surface what condition the paints then in whether or

1148
01:04:27,655 --> 01:04:30,175
Speaker 7: not you need to prime or can you just top coat.

1149
01:04:32,175 --> 01:04:34,815
Speaker 11: If it's a critic paint on there and it's in

1150
01:04:35,015 --> 01:04:39,935
Speaker 11: relatively good condition, there's going to be some breakdown i'd

1151
01:04:39,935 --> 01:04:42,655
Speaker 11: imagine in some areas, So you'd be spot priming those

1152
01:04:42,695 --> 01:04:48,695
Speaker 11: areas with razine shore seal because it's yeah, and shure

1153
01:04:48,735 --> 01:04:51,335
Speaker 11: seal penetrates in and helps bind things back together and

1154
01:04:51,455 --> 01:04:55,335
Speaker 11: just gives you a sturdy surface to then recope.

1155
01:04:55,415 --> 01:04:55,735
Speaker 7: Yes.

1156
01:04:56,495 --> 01:04:58,855
Speaker 11: And then on top of that, if it's all all

1157
01:04:58,855 --> 01:05:01,255
Speaker 11: sort of crytic paint, which i'd imagine it would be,

1158
01:05:01,455 --> 01:05:05,615
Speaker 11: you'd be looking at lumbersider son X or X two hundred.

1159
01:05:07,535 --> 01:05:09,615
Speaker 11: The main thing I suppose I'd just be given it

1160
01:05:09,655 --> 01:05:12,295
Speaker 11: a really good clean down first to remove any surface

1161
01:05:12,335 --> 01:05:18,135
Speaker 11: contaminants on that right, the moss and mulkill first, yep.

1162
01:05:18,215 --> 01:05:19,815
Speaker 11: And then it was in paint prep and.

1163
01:05:19,815 --> 01:05:24,135
Speaker 7: Housewater, yeah, and that's really critical if for any exterior

1164
01:05:24,775 --> 01:05:29,175
Speaker 7: paint or repainting is to do a proper chemical clean beforehand.

1165
01:05:30,055 --> 01:05:33,295
Speaker 11: Yes, you really want to remove as much surface contamination

1166
01:05:33,375 --> 01:05:36,895
Speaker 11: as possible. If you're close to the water as well,

1167
01:05:36,935 --> 01:05:39,695
Speaker 11: which the space that most of New Zealand is, especially

1168
01:05:39,735 --> 01:05:43,175
Speaker 11: as windblown salts can travel in land from twenty five kilometers.

1169
01:05:44,655 --> 01:05:48,455
Speaker 11: You can also end up having to clean down between coats, right,

1170
01:05:48,535 --> 01:05:52,055
Speaker 11: and you don't get any contamination between your layers because

1171
01:05:52,095 --> 01:05:54,255
Speaker 11: all of that can lead to bubbles and blisters.

1172
01:05:55,335 --> 01:06:00,655
Speaker 7: I mean you can understand what you can imagine a

1173
01:06:00,735 --> 01:06:03,375
Speaker 7: number of people would skip that step, you know, like

1174
01:06:03,415 --> 01:06:05,135
Speaker 7: I've started painting, I'm just going to carry on to

1175
01:06:05,215 --> 01:06:07,975
Speaker 7: the end. But what you're saying is that potentially overnight

1176
01:06:08,575 --> 01:06:11,855
Speaker 7: or over a weekend for example, you'll get those windblow

1177
01:06:11,855 --> 01:06:14,335
Speaker 7: and salts back on the surface and then you're just

1178
01:06:14,975 --> 01:06:17,975
Speaker 7: encapsulating those new paint system. It's going to cause failure,

1179
01:06:18,135 --> 01:06:19,815
Speaker 7: especially with roofs.

1180
01:06:20,095 --> 01:06:20,295
Speaker 13: Right.

1181
01:06:20,295 --> 01:06:24,055
Speaker 11: And the other one I've seen it with is actually pollen.

1182
01:06:25,095 --> 01:06:28,055
Speaker 11: Oh well ye, mainly in the summer between staining and

1183
01:06:28,095 --> 01:06:30,575
Speaker 11: the pollen build up was so great that it caused

1184
01:06:30,615 --> 01:06:33,655
Speaker 11: issues with the stain being able to penetrate into the timber.

1185
01:06:34,375 --> 01:06:36,615
Speaker 7: Oh interesting, I'll tell you what. We've got a couple

1186
01:06:36,655 --> 01:06:39,055
Speaker 7: of more texts, but just an observation, and again it's

1187
01:06:39,055 --> 01:06:41,055
Speaker 7: one of those things that you and I have chatted

1188
01:06:41,055 --> 01:06:44,015
Speaker 7: about over the years. The job that I'm sort of

1189
01:06:44,095 --> 01:06:47,375
Speaker 7: supervising at the moment is there's some remedial work and

1190
01:06:47,415 --> 01:06:49,415
Speaker 7: in one area we had to replace a couple of

1191
01:06:49,455 --> 01:06:52,455
Speaker 7: weatherboards right minor repairs, probably six or eight meters of

1192
01:06:52,455 --> 01:06:56,695
Speaker 7: weather board, so new weather board, pre primed got installed.

1193
01:06:56,855 --> 01:06:59,775
Speaker 7: And because of the weather conditions, I knit back the

1194
01:06:59,855 --> 01:07:02,415
Speaker 7: other day because it was dry and thought, right, I'll

1195
01:07:02,415 --> 01:07:05,895
Speaker 7: get a coat of primer on there. I was amazed

1196
01:07:06,015 --> 01:07:10,255
Speaker 7: at how I just with a one twenty grit sandpaper

1197
01:07:10,495 --> 01:07:13,335
Speaker 7: rubbed down the surface of those new weather boards with

1198
01:07:13,415 --> 01:07:16,095
Speaker 7: a primer code on them, and didn't take much for

1199
01:07:16,135 --> 01:07:19,415
Speaker 7: the primer to come off like it seemed quite chalky.

1200
01:07:19,055 --> 01:07:21,895
Speaker 7: And that's no criticism of the primer or the system

1201
01:07:21,975 --> 01:07:25,815
Speaker 7: or the weatherboards. It just emphasized to me that in

1202
01:07:25,895 --> 01:07:29,615
Speaker 7: most cases, if you've got a pre primed board, you

1203
01:07:29,735 --> 01:07:32,535
Speaker 7: need to give it a light stand and do another primer,

1204
01:07:32,575 --> 01:07:34,655
Speaker 7: which is exactly what I did on this job.

1205
01:07:36,735 --> 01:07:38,935
Speaker 11: A lot of those pre primed. A lot of the

1206
01:07:38,975 --> 01:07:41,655
Speaker 11: pre prime timber. It's just a transportation primer to help

1207
01:07:41,695 --> 01:07:46,295
Speaker 11: protect the timber during transport. So when it comes to

1208
01:07:46,655 --> 01:07:48,655
Speaker 11: actually painting, like you say, you give it a slight

1209
01:07:48,735 --> 01:07:51,175
Speaker 11: rub with sandpaper and it pretty much turns to dust,

1210
01:07:51,455 --> 01:07:53,495
Speaker 11: so you really need to give it a sand and

1211
01:07:53,655 --> 01:07:58,695
Speaker 11: prime with a proper painting primer. Yes, the boards will

1212
01:07:58,935 --> 01:08:00,895
Speaker 11: all have stickers as well, as far as I'm aware,

1213
01:08:00,935 --> 01:08:05,015
Speaker 11: on the back with information around the primer or what needed.

1214
01:08:05,695 --> 01:08:08,535
Speaker 11: So read the information before you start as well. Don't

1215
01:08:08,575 --> 01:08:11,695
Speaker 11: just think this pre prime board so I can just

1216
01:08:11,735 --> 01:08:12,815
Speaker 11: go straight on with the paint.

1217
01:08:12,855 --> 01:08:17,815
Speaker 7: Were the top coats, Yeah, yeah, excellently. Know, especially if

1218
01:08:17,855 --> 01:08:19,255
Speaker 7: you're doing a new build or something like that, you

1219
01:08:19,415 --> 01:08:22,015
Speaker 7: really got to stay on top of the contractors to

1220
01:08:22,015 --> 01:08:23,335
Speaker 7: make sure they do exactly that.

1221
01:08:23,655 --> 01:08:25,975
Speaker 11: And the priming is the anchor cooat of the system,

1222
01:08:26,055 --> 01:08:27,055
Speaker 11: so you want it to be.

1223
01:08:26,975 --> 01:08:32,015
Speaker 7: The strip there. Yeah, absolutely right, galv and I still

1224
01:08:32,055 --> 01:08:35,455
Speaker 7: Garretts built maybe sometime in the eighties. The current painter's chipped.

1225
01:08:35,455 --> 01:08:37,535
Speaker 7: There's a little bit of rust that's got a few

1226
01:08:37,575 --> 01:08:40,295
Speaker 7: little paint bubbles and places. The best way to deal

1227
01:08:40,335 --> 01:08:42,135
Speaker 7: with the bubbles before painting.

1228
01:08:43,415 --> 01:08:45,095
Speaker 11: There's only a little bit of rust, and that was

1229
01:08:45,095 --> 01:08:45,855
Speaker 11: built in the eighties.

1230
01:08:45,855 --> 01:08:46,335
Speaker 7: It's going well.

1231
01:08:52,775 --> 01:08:57,375
Speaker 11: The bubbles will need removing, so you can usually sort

1232
01:08:57,375 --> 01:09:00,055
Speaker 11: of cut those out with a knife and you just

1233
01:09:00,095 --> 01:09:03,535
Speaker 11: need to feather back the edges that are left just

1234
01:09:03,575 --> 01:09:08,135
Speaker 11: a smooth you want to remove any sharp edges. Spot

1235
01:09:08,175 --> 01:09:12,375
Speaker 11: prime many bearer areas with's just changed the name Razine

1236
01:09:12,535 --> 01:09:15,575
Speaker 11: armor X GP metal Primer. It's a bit of a mouthful,

1237
01:09:16,815 --> 01:09:18,895
Speaker 11: and then you can go over the top with your

1238
01:09:19,015 --> 01:09:24,495
Speaker 11: top coat system for galvanized sort of sheds. I've seen

1239
01:09:25,935 --> 01:09:29,215
Speaker 11: Razine Summit Roof used the Sonics for a semi gloss

1240
01:09:29,255 --> 01:09:30,375
Speaker 11: FINESI or lumbersider.

1241
01:09:31,455 --> 01:09:35,015
Speaker 7: Okay, just Razine GP x.

1242
01:09:35,495 --> 01:09:40,855
Speaker 11: P armor Rex Metal Primer. Armor X is the new range,

1243
01:09:40,895 --> 01:09:43,215
Speaker 11: so a lot of the metal codings have gone into

1244
01:09:43,255 --> 01:09:45,415
Speaker 11: this armor Rex range and then the name of the

1245
01:09:45,415 --> 01:09:46,735
Speaker 11: product afterwards.

1246
01:09:47,375 --> 01:09:50,535
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, I am writing that down because we also

1247
01:09:50,615 --> 01:09:53,575
Speaker 7: need to scrape back the corner soakas that have got

1248
01:09:53,575 --> 01:09:55,215
Speaker 7: a little bit of rest on them, so I just

1249
01:09:55,255 --> 01:09:57,375
Speaker 7: want to address that on this particular build at the

1250
01:09:57,415 --> 01:09:57,855
Speaker 7: same time.

1251
01:09:58,815 --> 01:10:03,295
Speaker 11: Other thing, though, the soakas often don't keep primed primer

1252
01:10:03,335 --> 01:10:06,215
Speaker 11: and just painted with the top coat on the weather

1253
01:10:07,335 --> 01:10:10,335
Speaker 11: and then it doesn't stick properly or here properly, and

1254
01:10:10,335 --> 01:10:12,775
Speaker 11: that's one of the areas that breaks down quite commonly.

1255
01:10:12,935 --> 01:10:16,775
Speaker 11: So yeah, if you've got those galvanized soakas or whatever

1256
01:10:17,215 --> 01:10:19,375
Speaker 11: mate soakas, you've got to make sure you prime them

1257
01:10:19,415 --> 01:10:20,615
Speaker 11: with the appropriate primer.

1258
01:10:20,975 --> 01:10:24,135
Speaker 7: Yeah, and the last takes is one of those classics

1259
01:10:24,175 --> 01:10:26,655
Speaker 7: about I've got a dig that's stained that needs some maintenance.

1260
01:10:26,695 --> 01:10:30,135
Speaker 7: Can I change and put an oil on it? I

1261
01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:32,215
Speaker 7: like the oil look rather than the stain. But that's

1262
01:10:32,255 --> 01:10:33,655
Speaker 7: about compatibility, isn't it.

1263
01:10:34,175 --> 01:10:37,935
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just making sure that whatever stain you're changing

1264
01:10:37,975 --> 01:10:40,615
Speaker 11: to is compatible with the stain that's on there.

1265
01:10:41,295 --> 01:10:42,215
Speaker 18: Yes, if it's been.

1266
01:10:43,775 --> 01:10:47,775
Speaker 11: Between the razinm Woodsman water Bourne or the solvent born oil,

1267
01:10:48,455 --> 01:10:52,495
Speaker 11: you can change if it's well weathered. But there's plenty

1268
01:10:52,535 --> 01:10:54,695
Speaker 11: of depth stains out there that all sit on the

1269
01:10:54,775 --> 01:11:00,735
Speaker 11: surface or they're sort of a mineral oil is they're

1270
01:11:00,775 --> 01:11:04,415
Speaker 11: not compatible with other stains. So best device is to

1271
01:11:04,815 --> 01:11:06,855
Speaker 11: try and get a test pot of whatever thing you're

1272
01:11:06,935 --> 01:11:09,935
Speaker 11: changing to and just try to test there in an

1273
01:11:09,975 --> 01:11:13,335
Speaker 11: inconspicuous area if you can, just give it a couple

1274
01:11:13,375 --> 01:11:16,375
Speaker 11: of days, so if it dries, I mean, if it's

1275
01:11:16,375 --> 01:11:19,255
Speaker 11: still kind of sat on the surface or tacky, chances

1276
01:11:19,295 --> 01:11:21,375
Speaker 11: are it's not compatible with what's on there and you

1277
01:11:21,455 --> 01:11:25,655
Speaker 11: might need to stick with the original stain or see

1278
01:11:25,655 --> 01:11:26,335
Speaker 11: about painting.

1279
01:11:26,935 --> 01:11:30,895
Speaker 7: Yeah, brilliant, appreciate that as always fantastic advice.

1280
01:11:31,015 --> 01:11:31,215
Speaker 9: Jay.

1281
01:11:31,535 --> 01:11:34,895
Speaker 7: Enjoy your last day of long weekend and we'll catch

1282
01:11:34,935 --> 01:11:37,015
Speaker 7: up again soon. All the very about good take care.

1283
01:11:37,215 --> 01:11:41,255
Speaker 7: See there that's Jay, our painting expert from Razine. If

1284
01:11:41,255 --> 01:11:43,055
Speaker 7: you want to know more, make sure you talk to

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Speaker 7: the experts who are in the stores as well at

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01:11:45,335 --> 01:11:47,655
Speaker 7: your local color shop. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:11:47,695 --> 01:11:51,655
Speaker 7: We're taking your building questions. Actually there's one more paint

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01:11:51,735 --> 01:11:54,335
Speaker 7: question that I might have a crack at myself. We'll

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01:11:54,335 --> 01:11:55,975
Speaker 7: do that after the break. But if you've got a

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01:11:56,015 --> 01:11:58,255
Speaker 7: question of a building nature, you should call me now.

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01:11:58,375 --> 01:12:00,855
Speaker 7: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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01:12:00,895 --> 01:12:01,575
Speaker 7: to call?

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01:12:01,975 --> 01:12:06,055
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor give the right advice from peautiful.

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01:12:06,375 --> 01:12:09,655
Speaker 1: Have the resident builder on News Talk sab you.

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01:12:09,695 --> 01:12:11,975
Speaker 7: And New Talk CB coming up seventeen months away from

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01:12:12,055 --> 01:12:14,135
Speaker 7: eight o'clock. Mike, A very good morning.

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01:12:15,295 --> 01:12:19,775
Speaker 8: Yeah baby, Hey, I text you yesterday about that endurance

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01:12:19,895 --> 01:12:20,695
Speaker 8: or like last.

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01:12:20,455 --> 01:12:23,535
Speaker 7: Week in Durance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

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01:12:23,455 --> 01:12:25,175
Speaker 1: I can't find it anyway because you had the guy

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01:12:25,255 --> 01:12:28,335
Speaker 1: on we didn't need to Yeah, and I can't and

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01:12:28,415 --> 01:12:30,095
Speaker 1: it was on the north shore here Glenfield.

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01:12:30,135 --> 01:12:32,495
Speaker 9: I think I can't find that product anywhere and I

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01:12:32,535 --> 01:12:33,855
Speaker 9: can't find anything about.

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01:12:33,575 --> 01:12:42,455
Speaker 7: It Polymer Technologies, O Polymer. I'll tell you what. I'll

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01:12:42,495 --> 01:12:45,215
Speaker 7: go and dig it out and get the information for you.

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01:12:45,655 --> 01:12:48,735
Speaker 7: So in this instance where I used it for was

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01:12:49,335 --> 01:12:52,015
Speaker 7: actually it was a little bit like the Catherine before

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01:12:52,015 --> 01:12:57,775
Speaker 7: the news. So you know often for houses in nineteen forties,

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01:12:57,855 --> 01:13:01,615
Speaker 7: nineteen fifties, even nineteen sixties, you know that they had

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01:13:01,695 --> 01:13:05,735
Speaker 7: like a standing scene or a flat almost flat roof

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01:13:05,815 --> 01:13:07,655
Speaker 7: with a met cladding over the top of it, with

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01:13:07,735 --> 01:13:09,815
Speaker 7: a standing seam. That was a really easy way of

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01:13:10,215 --> 01:13:13,975
Speaker 7: making water tight junctions. And then obviously that decays after

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01:13:14,015 --> 01:13:16,095
Speaker 7: a period of time. So where I used it, it

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01:13:16,215 --> 01:13:19,495
Speaker 7: was just purely to put down an extra layer to

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Speaker 7: give me some extra time, and it seems to have

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Speaker 7: done exactly that. With all the weather we've had, I

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01:13:24,615 --> 01:13:27,735
Speaker 7: haven't had any extent and that's similar to what you

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01:13:27,815 --> 01:13:30,055
Speaker 7: might want to do exactly the same.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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01:13:31,095 --> 01:13:34,335
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what, Just go back to lock my producer,

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01:13:34,535 --> 01:13:36,575
Speaker 7: leave your number and I'll get some details to you.

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01:13:37,935 --> 01:13:40,255
Speaker 7: Thank you very all. This might take care. Oh eight

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01:13:40,375 --> 01:13:42,735
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:13:42,815 --> 01:13:43,375
Speaker 7: Hello in it.

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Speaker 13: Oh, good morning, Pete.

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01:13:46,655 --> 01:13:50,135
Speaker 7: Good indeed, this is a lovely morning.

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Speaker 13: We've got a sixties type how and we've got tone

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01:13:55,935 --> 01:14:01,735
Speaker 13: and through flooring. Yes, and it's speaking and we won't recarput.

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01:14:01,855 --> 01:14:04,375
Speaker 13: And i'd like to get rid of that creaking.

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Speaker 10: If it's at all possible.

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Speaker 13: Do you know anything we could do?

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01:14:09,015 --> 01:14:13,535
Speaker 7: Sometimes the creaking is not from where you expected to

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01:14:13,615 --> 01:14:20,535
Speaker 7: come from, funnily enough. So for example, sometimes squeaking that

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01:14:20,575 --> 01:14:23,015
Speaker 7: you hear on a floor comes from the floor joists

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01:14:23,135 --> 01:14:25,895
Speaker 7: rather than from the flooring. Not that common, but it

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01:14:25,935 --> 01:14:28,615
Speaker 7: can happen. Most of the time it is from the floorboards.

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01:14:28,655 --> 01:14:33,775
Speaker 7: So what type of floorboards are they?

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01:14:33,935 --> 01:14:34,135
Speaker 5: Oh?

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01:14:34,215 --> 01:14:38,055
Speaker 13: Probably tar war okay.

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01:14:37,175 --> 01:14:40,015
Speaker 7: Yep, and so about sort of three inches wide something

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01:14:40,095 --> 01:14:46,335
Speaker 7: like that, Oh yeah, seventy five millimeters something like that.

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01:14:47,855 --> 01:14:51,575
Speaker 7: One thing you can do is just get the either

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01:14:51,615 --> 01:14:54,175
Speaker 7: the flooring guys or someone could come in and just

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01:14:54,335 --> 01:14:57,655
Speaker 7: punch the existing nails down and so they kind of

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01:14:57,695 --> 01:15:00,655
Speaker 7: bite again. So just with a nail punch. You just

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01:15:00,695 --> 01:15:03,335
Speaker 7: go around punch the nails down where the squeaks are.

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01:15:03,695 --> 01:15:06,815
Speaker 7: That might solve it. If you're happy to sort of

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01:15:06,975 --> 01:15:11,655
Speaker 7: sacrifice the boards. You could go through with some flooring

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01:15:11,735 --> 01:15:16,295
Speaker 7: screws and put a flooring screw into those areas where

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01:15:16,335 --> 01:15:18,335
Speaker 7: you're getting a bit of squeaking, just to lock the

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01:15:18,375 --> 01:15:25,135
Speaker 7: floor down. Some people have even put I've heard this,

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01:15:25,215 --> 01:15:29,535
Speaker 7: I haven't tried it myself, talcum powder over the floor.

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01:15:29,855 --> 01:15:32,535
Speaker 7: And what that does is it goes into the gap

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01:15:32,615 --> 01:15:35,535
Speaker 7: between the in the tongue and groove and just kind

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01:15:35,615 --> 01:15:40,575
Speaker 7: of basically lubricates the area basically right, so you don't

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01:15:40,615 --> 01:15:43,695
Speaker 7: get that squeaking sound. I've heard that that works. Okay,

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01:15:44,855 --> 01:15:47,455
Speaker 7: you could try that as well. You could do that,

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01:15:47,575 --> 01:15:50,255
Speaker 7: you know, like nail punch the nails down, put some

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01:15:50,295 --> 01:15:53,015
Speaker 7: screws down if you want to. The reason I'm a

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01:15:53,015 --> 01:15:56,255
Speaker 7: bit reluctant around putting screws down is that maybe sometime

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01:15:56,295 --> 01:15:59,375
Speaker 7: in the future someone's going to lift the carpet and

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01:15:59,455 --> 01:16:02,575
Speaker 7: decide that they want to have an exposed himber floor,

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01:16:02,855 --> 01:16:05,015
Speaker 7: and it would be a little bit heartbreaking when they

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01:16:05,055 --> 01:16:07,855
Speaker 7: did that. They found that some had gone through and

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01:16:08,015 --> 01:16:10,415
Speaker 7: machine gunned down a whole lot of screws and kind

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01:16:10,415 --> 01:16:13,775
Speaker 7: of ruined the visual impact of the floor by doing that.

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01:16:13,895 --> 01:16:18,055
Speaker 7: So but hey, look it's your house, in which case

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01:16:18,255 --> 01:16:19,175
Speaker 7: do what you need to do.

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01:16:20,415 --> 01:16:20,615
Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:16:21,855 --> 01:16:23,735
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you can screw them down.

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01:16:24,975 --> 01:16:28,015
Speaker 13: Yeah, super right, no trouble at all.

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Speaker 7: You enjoy your day and enjoy the new carpet. Absolutely Rightio,

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01:16:35,335 --> 01:16:37,015
Speaker 7: nice to talk to you, and you have a great day.

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01:16:37,255 --> 01:16:39,175
Speaker 7: We'll take a short break. We'll talk to Craig straight

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01:16:39,175 --> 01:16:39,535
Speaker 7: after the.

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Speaker 1: Break, helping you get those DIY projects done right.

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Speaker 5: The resident builder with Peta Wolf Care call you talk

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01:16:48,295 --> 01:16:49,935
Speaker 5: Zy this morning.

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Speaker 7: It's time to shine a bit of a light on jaframe.

1382
01:16:52,335 --> 01:16:55,975
Speaker 7: So it's a new Zealand made LVL framing product that's strong,

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01:16:56,175 --> 01:16:59,215
Speaker 7: straight and one hundred percent sustainable. So joining us this

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01:16:59,295 --> 01:17:03,095
Speaker 7: morning is Simon Barber Trusts plant Manager. It might attend

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01:17:03,135 --> 01:17:06,815
Speaker 7: MEGA in Graymouth to share some experience of using the

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01:17:06,815 --> 01:17:10,215
Speaker 7: product and how it's performing for the builders. So Simon,

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01:17:10,215 --> 01:17:12,775
Speaker 7: thanks very much for joining us. I've seen a few

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01:17:12,775 --> 01:17:15,855
Speaker 7: builders try jframe for the first time. What sort of

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01:17:15,855 --> 01:17:17,535
Speaker 7: feedback are you getting from your team?

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01:17:19,215 --> 01:17:23,495
Speaker 17: Generally, once they try it the first time, they will

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01:17:23,575 --> 01:17:24,455
Speaker 17: usually stick to it.

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01:17:24,615 --> 01:17:25,335
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:17:25,655 --> 01:17:27,415
Speaker 17: Yeah, We've got a lot of builders that won't build

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01:17:27,415 --> 01:17:28,175
Speaker 17: with anything else.

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01:17:28,375 --> 01:17:31,295
Speaker 7: To be honest, I think lots of people try it,

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01:17:31,535 --> 01:17:33,415
Speaker 7: they want to stick with it. And in terms of

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01:17:33,535 --> 01:17:36,815
Speaker 7: you know, from a manufacturing point of view, how does

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01:17:36,855 --> 01:17:39,575
Speaker 7: the jframe enhance what you're doing in the factory.

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01:17:40,255 --> 01:17:45,015
Speaker 17: It allows us to put out a higher quality product.

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01:17:45,575 --> 01:17:49,215
Speaker 17: We're not checking through the bent timber or defects that

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01:17:49,295 --> 01:17:52,975
Speaker 17: are slipping in the dry frame these days. And yeah,

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01:17:52,975 --> 01:17:55,575
Speaker 17: it just makes us a lot more efficient and accurate.

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01:17:56,375 --> 01:17:58,615
Speaker 7: And are there some standout projects where you've used the

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01:17:58,655 --> 01:18:00,255
Speaker 7: jframe and it's made a real difference.

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01:18:01,095 --> 01:18:07,375
Speaker 17: Yeah, Mainly the larger architectural builds straighter for some of

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01:18:07,415 --> 01:18:11,535
Speaker 17: those larger raking walls, and the sheer volume of timber

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01:18:11,535 --> 01:18:15,855
Speaker 17: in there means less straightening for the builders, so they

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01:18:15,855 --> 01:18:17,095
Speaker 17: save a lot of time and money.

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01:18:18,655 --> 01:18:22,735
Speaker 7: And so in terms of challenges from swapping for conventional

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01:18:22,775 --> 01:18:26,535
Speaker 7: stick framing through to the jframe, what's the biggest issue

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01:18:26,575 --> 01:18:28,415
Speaker 7: you think for the guys for.

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01:18:28,575 --> 01:18:34,375
Speaker 17: A standard house, I'd say nothing. It's just if you, yeah,

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01:18:34,775 --> 01:18:41,095
Speaker 17: the heavier any of the heavier frames, big raking ones. Yeah,

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01:18:41,095 --> 01:18:43,695
Speaker 17: you just might think about your manpower or if you're

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01:18:45,455 --> 01:18:48,215
Speaker 17: using a HIREB or something because it is a little

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01:18:48,215 --> 01:18:50,255
Speaker 17: bit heavier, but I guess you get that whether you're

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01:18:50,335 --> 01:18:52,775
Speaker 17: using l VL or pine anyway.

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01:18:52,855 --> 01:18:59,415
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely so from your perspective, Jframe codemark reduced time

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01:18:59,655 --> 01:19:01,655
Speaker 7: and is that a money saving.

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01:19:02,095 --> 01:19:07,455
Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely, builders not having to straightened as much, just

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01:19:07,935 --> 01:19:14,335
Speaker 17: above the odd Noburn block. And for us, yeah, we

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01:19:14,695 --> 01:19:17,535
Speaker 17: can sometimes pass it on to the customer just because

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01:19:17,575 --> 01:19:21,015
Speaker 17: of the amount with pre cut studs that Jay Frame offer,

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01:19:21,975 --> 01:19:24,375
Speaker 17: and we're saving a lot of time in the factory

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01:19:24,415 --> 01:19:26,295
Speaker 17: as well, just on.

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01:19:26,215 --> 01:19:29,415
Speaker 7: The pre cut so you can order links to suit

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01:19:29,815 --> 01:19:31,255
Speaker 7: the type of walls that you're building.

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01:19:31,695 --> 01:19:35,775
Speaker 17: Yep, they're pretty good range. Off the top of my head,

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01:19:35,815 --> 01:19:40,935
Speaker 17: it's usually your twenty three thirties and thirties that were

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01:19:40,975 --> 01:19:46,375
Speaker 17: usually used, but then they have yeah, everything in between

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01:19:46,455 --> 01:19:51,495
Speaker 17: for those twenty six oh five walls and bits and pieces.

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01:19:51,535 --> 01:19:53,695
Speaker 7: For a pre cut pre nail yard, that's got to

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01:19:53,735 --> 01:19:54,855
Speaker 7: be a huge advantage.

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01:19:55,135 --> 01:19:59,735
Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely when you when you're a small yard, not

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01:19:59,815 --> 01:20:02,375
Speaker 17: having the pre cut studs is a big saving.

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01:20:02,455 --> 01:20:05,215
Speaker 7: It's a big saving, all right. We'll look folks, if

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01:20:05,215 --> 01:20:07,655
Speaker 7: you're in the Graymouth theory and you're looking to build

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01:20:07,775 --> 01:20:11,055
Speaker 7: or renovate and you check out the friendly team at

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01:20:11,095 --> 01:20:14,495
Speaker 7: Mine to ten Mega in Graymouth. So if you're thinking

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01:20:14,495 --> 01:20:16,775
Speaker 7: of building and renovating, you want a quality finish, you

1441
01:20:16,895 --> 01:20:20,495
Speaker 7: need a quality start. Check out Jframe at Janel dot

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01:20:20,535 --> 01:20:24,535
Speaker 7: co dot nz zed be Yeah when you talk to

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01:20:24,575 --> 01:20:26,455
Speaker 7: the bee, quick call from you, Craig before the break.

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01:20:26,455 --> 01:20:27,815
Speaker 7: How are you, sir?

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01:20:28,215 --> 01:20:28,415
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:20:28,455 --> 01:20:31,415
Speaker 15: Good, thank you. I'm just got a front door issue.

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01:20:31,535 --> 01:20:35,935
Speaker 15: Was a new door's only eleven months old exterior door.

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01:20:36,135 --> 01:20:38,295
Speaker 15: I've sprayed it, painted and put the new lock on it.

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01:20:38,375 --> 01:20:38,575
Speaker 13: Hang.

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01:20:38,615 --> 01:20:41,735
Speaker 15: It was beautiful until about about a month ago, and

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01:20:41,815 --> 01:20:43,735
Speaker 15: it was really hard to close, and it was binding.

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01:20:44,815 --> 01:20:46,615
Speaker 15: You'll put a straightage on it looking down it from

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01:20:46,655 --> 01:20:48,895
Speaker 15: the top and it's a bog of about ten mile

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01:20:49,015 --> 01:20:49,575
Speaker 15: in the middle.

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01:20:50,735 --> 01:20:51,015
Speaker 7: Ouch.

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01:20:52,095 --> 01:20:57,175
Speaker 15: It was a reputable company bought luckily, and I was

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01:20:57,255 --> 01:20:59,295
Speaker 15: told once I rang them up and says, I know

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01:20:59,375 --> 01:21:01,495
Speaker 15: in all that paint at the dark color, and that's.

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01:21:03,055 --> 01:21:03,535
Speaker 10: So right.

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01:21:03,855 --> 01:21:06,015
Speaker 15: It's only happening now because the farm's gone a lot

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01:21:06,055 --> 01:21:08,655
Speaker 15: of love to the north that the son's getting on

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01:21:08,695 --> 01:21:10,895
Speaker 15: the door and it's bowing and binding when I have

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01:21:11,015 --> 01:21:12,735
Speaker 15: to boostally have to slam it to make it latch.

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01:21:13,215 --> 01:21:15,255
Speaker 15: What I was thinking of doing is taking the door

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01:21:15,295 --> 01:21:17,295
Speaker 15: off and taking it to a wood company and getting

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01:21:17,335 --> 01:21:19,495
Speaker 15: them to drill maybe a twenty or twenty five mil

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01:21:19,855 --> 01:21:22,535
Speaker 15: bole through the whole width of the door and put

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01:21:22,615 --> 01:21:25,255
Speaker 15: maybe a cabin rod of and cluid in it.

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01:21:26,015 --> 01:21:27,935
Speaker 7: From Bowie, Yes, it wants to be.

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01:21:31,375 --> 01:21:33,855
Speaker 15: I can't think of any other suggestion than painted what

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01:21:34,175 --> 01:21:37,055
Speaker 15: My wife doesn't want it white.

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01:21:37,775 --> 01:21:40,695
Speaker 7: Sometimes you just can't mark around with physics, right, so

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01:21:41,895 --> 01:21:46,215
Speaker 7: you know nature will do what nature will do. The

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01:21:46,335 --> 01:21:49,775
Speaker 7: other thing is, given that we've just had our Rasine

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01:21:49,775 --> 01:21:52,375
Speaker 7: guy on. When you painted it black, did you use

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01:21:52,415 --> 01:21:53,775
Speaker 7: the cool color technology?

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01:21:55,175 --> 01:21:57,215
Speaker 15: Yeah, no, it's not black as iron sandsor it's the

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01:21:57,295 --> 01:21:57,895
Speaker 15: dark ground.

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01:21:58,015 --> 01:22:03,175
Speaker 7: But either way, I just I tell you what if

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01:22:03,655 --> 01:22:05,895
Speaker 7: straightening the door might not be that easy to be

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01:22:05,935 --> 01:22:08,775
Speaker 7: blunt but worth a try. But certainly if you do

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01:22:08,855 --> 01:22:11,735
Speaker 7: want to paint dark colors onto timber, you want to

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01:22:11,735 --> 01:22:14,055
Speaker 7: have a look at some of that Razine cool colours

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01:22:14,095 --> 01:22:17,335
Speaker 7: technology as well. That'll that will reduce the amount of

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01:22:17,375 --> 01:22:21,095
Speaker 7: heat absorption and that will stop the door potentially from boeing.

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01:22:21,135 --> 01:22:23,615
Speaker 7: So check that out. I actually wonder where the should

1487
01:22:23,615 --> 01:22:23,935
Speaker 7: just buy a.

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01:22:23,935 --> 01:22:27,935
Speaker 1: New door measure twice God was but maybe called Pete

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01:22:27,935 --> 01:22:32,975
Speaker 1: first video Wolfgaf the Resident Builder News Talks Byal.

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01:22:32,215 --> 01:22:34,815
Speaker 7: News Talks thed B. We're talking all things building and

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01:22:34,855 --> 01:22:37,855
Speaker 7: construction through to about eight thirty. Then we'll jump into

1492
01:22:37,855 --> 01:22:40,695
Speaker 7: the garden with Recline Pass from eight thirty this morning.

1493
01:22:40,695 --> 01:22:44,895
Speaker 7: So if you've got a gardening or entomological question, we

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01:22:44,975 --> 01:22:47,255
Speaker 7: can tune into that from eight to thirty. But right

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01:22:47,255 --> 01:22:51,415
Speaker 7: now we're talking building construction, a waterproofing maintenance. We had

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01:22:51,455 --> 01:22:54,695
Speaker 7: a long discussion about what's the most effective solution for

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01:22:54,735 --> 01:22:59,415
Speaker 7: cleaning a slightly you know, grubby discolored toilet bowl. So

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01:22:59,455 --> 01:23:01,975
Speaker 7: I've got a couple of DIY solutions this for a

1499
01:23:02,015 --> 01:23:03,735
Speaker 7: toilet that I'm going to rip out this week, but

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01:23:03,775 --> 01:23:07,975
Speaker 7: I'll have a crack anyway at that. And we talked

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01:23:07,975 --> 01:23:09,935
Speaker 7: a little bit about regulation, and actually just before the

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01:23:09,935 --> 01:23:12,775
Speaker 7: news as well, Mike I mentioned a product that I've

1503
01:23:12,815 --> 01:23:18,615
Speaker 7: recently used as a waterproofing compound called Injuris. The way

1504
01:23:18,695 --> 01:23:21,775
Speaker 7: to get a hold of that mic is actually best

1505
01:23:21,815 --> 01:23:25,335
Speaker 7: Bitters to style eight hundred one two three nine hundred,

1506
01:23:26,255 --> 01:23:29,255
Speaker 7: So that'll get you through the shield coat eight hundred

1507
01:23:29,295 --> 01:23:31,375
Speaker 7: one two three nine hundred. They are actually in the

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01:23:31,375 --> 01:23:34,175
Speaker 7: Wireral Valley. If you need to pop in there and

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01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:36,215
Speaker 7: have a look at it as well, so that helps.

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01:23:36,615 --> 01:23:39,855
Speaker 7: COUDA A very good morning to you, Wennie.

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01:23:39,855 --> 01:23:40,375
Speaker 9: How are you, pet?

1512
01:23:40,655 --> 01:23:42,295
Speaker 7: I'm very well and yourself.

1513
01:23:43,415 --> 01:23:43,655
Speaker 5: Good.

1514
01:23:43,695 --> 01:23:49,295
Speaker 19: Thank you good. I just a problem that I wiped

1515
01:23:49,295 --> 01:23:53,295
Speaker 19: through would have a solution for I'm looking at drilling

1516
01:23:53,775 --> 01:23:58,295
Speaker 19: a one hundred and seventeen mile or above window lent.

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01:23:59,295 --> 01:24:00,095
Speaker 13: The house is.

1518
01:24:00,495 --> 01:24:04,255
Speaker 19: Ninien next to built and it's a double story with

1519
01:24:05,855 --> 01:24:09,575
Speaker 19: I think you to break. So I called in a

1520
01:24:10,735 --> 01:24:13,615
Speaker 19: coll drilling guy to do the job, but she was

1521
01:24:13,695 --> 01:24:17,335
Speaker 19: afraid that if you drilled then you would also you

1522
01:24:17,375 --> 01:24:21,695
Speaker 19: would weaken the strength of the house. Yes, so I

1523
01:24:21,775 --> 01:24:24,855
Speaker 19: just wanted to find out whether is it possible to

1524
01:24:24,935 --> 01:24:29,695
Speaker 19: do to actually put a war there or no, it's

1525
01:24:29,735 --> 01:24:32,775
Speaker 19: not possible. So the reason why I want to put

1526
01:24:32,775 --> 01:24:35,655
Speaker 19: a war is I want to install a smart warm,

1527
01:24:36,455 --> 01:24:39,295
Speaker 19: a smart vent tempera yeap, just to reachuse the consentation

1528
01:24:39,335 --> 01:24:41,375
Speaker 19: because you don't have a seiling space.

1529
01:24:41,815 --> 01:24:46,375
Speaker 7: Sure, sure, I mean I think he's right to be

1530
01:24:46,455 --> 01:24:50,815
Speaker 7: cautious around drilling a large hole through an area directly

1531
01:24:50,815 --> 01:24:53,615
Speaker 7: above the window because typically that's where the lintel is,

1532
01:24:54,175 --> 01:24:56,415
Speaker 7: and you know, if you drilled a twenty mil hole

1533
01:24:56,455 --> 01:24:59,415
Speaker 7: through that's not a problem. But drilling something like a

1534
01:24:59,495 --> 01:25:02,335
Speaker 7: one sixty diameter is what you want to.

1535
01:25:02,335 --> 01:25:05,735
Speaker 19: Do, now, one one one one.

1536
01:25:05,575 --> 01:25:09,335
Speaker 7: One seven right? Either way, if you were to let's

1537
01:25:09,375 --> 01:25:12,415
Speaker 7: say there's a lintel there, and like, what's the span

1538
01:25:12,575 --> 01:25:15,295
Speaker 7: of the window opening? How wide's the window?

1539
01:25:16,455 --> 01:25:19,815
Speaker 19: Uh, it's quite a two meters Okay.

1540
01:25:19,415 --> 01:25:21,975
Speaker 7: So it'll be a decent sized lintel. If you were

1541
01:25:21,975 --> 01:25:25,655
Speaker 7: to drill through there, you know, you would undermine or

1542
01:25:25,695 --> 01:25:28,335
Speaker 7: you would you would basically weaken the strength of the lintel.

1543
01:25:28,415 --> 01:25:32,615
Speaker 7: So I think good on the person that you asked saying, look,

1544
01:25:33,175 --> 01:25:35,015
Speaker 7: I'm going to suggest that we don't drill a whole

1545
01:25:35,055 --> 01:25:37,295
Speaker 7: through that because it will weaken it. Is there an

1546
01:25:37,335 --> 01:25:42,255
Speaker 7: opportunity for example, Like, so it's if you're getting a cordriller.

1547
01:25:42,495 --> 01:25:45,815
Speaker 7: Is it a brick exterior and timber frame construction on

1548
01:25:45,855 --> 01:25:48,895
Speaker 7: the inside or is it all masonry? What's the actual

1549
01:25:48,935 --> 01:25:49,935
Speaker 7: construction of the building.

1550
01:25:51,575 --> 01:25:55,495
Speaker 19: So there's this looks like there's a brick on the

1551
01:25:55,575 --> 01:25:58,895
Speaker 19: outside and then timber framing inside.

1552
01:25:58,975 --> 01:26:02,815
Speaker 7: Okay, So if you were able to go you know,

1553
01:26:03,015 --> 01:26:05,775
Speaker 7: roughly one hundred and fifty millimeters from the edge of

1554
01:26:05,815 --> 01:26:09,935
Speaker 7: the window and below the where the line of the

1555
01:26:09,975 --> 01:26:12,455
Speaker 7: top plate is you'll find that you're actually going through

1556
01:26:12,495 --> 01:26:15,535
Speaker 7: a void there. So if you were to go through

1557
01:26:15,535 --> 01:26:18,535
Speaker 7: that area, you're not going to hit a stud, you're

1558
01:26:18,575 --> 01:26:20,335
Speaker 7: not going to hit the top plate, and you're certainly

1559
01:26:20,335 --> 01:26:22,495
Speaker 7: not going to hit the lintel. So I just think

1560
01:26:22,615 --> 01:26:25,415
Speaker 7: if you can adjust where you want to put that

1561
01:26:25,455 --> 01:26:28,655
Speaker 7: penetration through, you'll be able to find somewhere in a

1562
01:26:28,695 --> 01:26:31,975
Speaker 7: timber frame construction that you could go through what is

1563
01:26:32,015 --> 01:26:35,255
Speaker 7: effectively avoid through the brickwork on the outside and put

1564
01:26:35,255 --> 01:26:41,495
Speaker 7: the vent in without hitting anything that's doing some work. Okay, Yeah,

1565
01:26:42,055 --> 01:26:45,175
Speaker 7: so a good good call on the part of the

1566
01:26:45,175 --> 01:26:47,975
Speaker 7: contractor not to draw a great big hole through there.

1567
01:26:49,175 --> 01:26:49,375
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1568
01:26:49,815 --> 01:26:52,495
Speaker 19: And then maybe another question is because from from the

1569
01:26:52,535 --> 01:26:56,855
Speaker 19: top of the window to roughly the bottom of the

1570
01:26:56,975 --> 01:27:03,775
Speaker 19: top floor, that's about four hundred mil Yes, that's all

1571
01:27:03,855 --> 01:27:06,975
Speaker 19: the little reebar or or be.

1572
01:27:07,135 --> 01:27:14,215
Speaker 7: So again, I would really stay away from drilling above

1573
01:27:14,255 --> 01:27:16,695
Speaker 7: the window because you know that's going to be an

1574
01:27:16,735 --> 01:27:23,855
Speaker 7: area where if you've got, for example, brick cladding on

1575
01:27:23,895 --> 01:27:27,695
Speaker 7: the outside, you'll have a steel plate or an angle

1576
01:27:27,735 --> 01:27:31,015
Speaker 7: line that will support the brickwork above the window, so

1577
01:27:31,775 --> 01:27:34,975
Speaker 7: that will be fixed into a timber lintel. You don't

1578
01:27:34,975 --> 01:27:38,535
Speaker 7: want to drill anything through that at all. So I

1579
01:27:38,575 --> 01:27:41,135
Speaker 7: think I would look for those areas that are outside

1580
01:27:41,135 --> 01:27:43,855
Speaker 7: the framing. You know, it might in this instance here,

1581
01:27:43,895 --> 01:27:46,975
Speaker 7: if you're unsure about where the structural timber is in

1582
01:27:47,015 --> 01:27:49,455
Speaker 7: the wall, you could get someone to do like a

1583
01:27:49,455 --> 01:27:52,655
Speaker 7: thermal scan and that will identify where the top plate

1584
01:27:52,775 --> 01:27:54,655
Speaker 7: is where the studs happen to be, and then you

1585
01:27:54,695 --> 01:27:58,815
Speaker 7: could identify an area that doesn't have structural timber and

1586
01:27:58,935 --> 01:28:00,495
Speaker 7: get your penetration out through there.

1587
01:28:02,255 --> 01:28:05,495
Speaker 19: Okay, Actually it's kind of concrete to find the.

1588
01:28:08,295 --> 01:28:12,295
Speaker 7: If it's timber framed with a brick exterior, then you're

1589
01:28:12,335 --> 01:28:15,775
Speaker 7: really focusing on where the timber is. The concrete as

1590
01:28:15,775 --> 01:28:18,855
Speaker 7: long as it's or the masonry exterior, as long as

1591
01:28:18,855 --> 01:28:21,535
Speaker 7: it's not above the window. It will deal with one

1592
01:28:21,575 --> 01:28:25,375
Speaker 7: hundred and seventeen mil hole going through it. Okay, it's

1593
01:28:25,415 --> 01:28:29,295
Speaker 7: the structure of the building that we want to protect. Yes, okay,

1594
01:28:29,575 --> 01:28:31,615
Speaker 7: thank you, very good luck, all right, all the best

1595
01:28:31,655 --> 01:28:34,135
Speaker 7: and good only for looking at it. Installing some vents.

1596
01:28:34,255 --> 01:28:37,055
Speaker 7: That's a really good idea. The smart vent system is

1597
01:28:37,095 --> 01:28:39,335
Speaker 7: a really good one. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1598
01:28:39,415 --> 01:28:41,615
Speaker 7: eighty is the number to call. Stephen, Good morning.

1599
01:28:42,655 --> 01:28:46,535
Speaker 18: Yeah, good morning for you. I build a house in

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01:28:46,895 --> 01:28:51,735
Speaker 18: windy Wellington forty years ago using plywood as the exterior,

1601
01:28:52,415 --> 01:28:55,855
Speaker 18: and I visited the house recently and it's as sound

1602
01:28:55,895 --> 01:28:59,335
Speaker 18: as it was when we built it. I'm looking to

1603
01:28:59,375 --> 01:29:03,175
Speaker 18: build another house in not such a windy area, but

1604
01:29:04,095 --> 01:29:06,175
Speaker 18: I want to use the plywood again on the out

1605
01:29:06,615 --> 01:29:09,935
Speaker 18: And what we did last time was we we had

1606
01:29:09,975 --> 01:29:15,375
Speaker 18: the ply vertically and we we left about a ten

1607
01:29:15,415 --> 01:29:21,095
Speaker 18: mil gap and we filled that gap with silicon and

1608
01:29:21,135 --> 01:29:26,775
Speaker 18: then we put up dressed one side batten down the joint. Yes,

1609
01:29:27,175 --> 01:29:31,095
Speaker 18: we didn't use we didn't use grooves in that pattern,

1610
01:29:32,095 --> 01:29:34,135
Speaker 18: and we used copper boat And I was right around

1611
01:29:34,135 --> 01:29:37,615
Speaker 18: the house and as I say, it sounds anything, but

1612
01:29:37,815 --> 01:29:42,495
Speaker 18: now would we have to put a couple of grooves

1613
01:29:42,495 --> 01:29:45,615
Speaker 18: in that batteren ye when we put it over the joint?

1614
01:29:45,735 --> 01:29:46,095
Speaker 7: Yes?

1615
01:29:47,815 --> 01:29:50,455
Speaker 18: Okay? Is that enough with the silicon down the middle

1616
01:29:50,495 --> 01:29:52,855
Speaker 18: and the two grooves in the in the baten? Is

1617
01:29:52,895 --> 01:29:53,895
Speaker 18: that sufficient?

1618
01:29:54,935 --> 01:29:59,295
Speaker 7: Yeah? Chances are, If chances are, you'll need to put

1619
01:29:59,335 --> 01:30:01,695
Speaker 7: the whole thing on a cavity. Right, So, if you're

1620
01:30:01,735 --> 01:30:05,255
Speaker 7: building you and it's timber frame, chance it'll be timber

1621
01:30:05,295 --> 01:30:09,895
Speaker 7: frame building wrap cavity batton and then your plywood she

1622
01:30:10,055 --> 01:30:12,135
Speaker 7: thing over the top of that, so you won't be

1623
01:30:12,215 --> 01:30:17,375
Speaker 7: doing direct fixed. Most likely there might be a requirement

1624
01:30:17,455 --> 01:30:21,615
Speaker 7: to BackFlash that joint, but possibly not if it's on

1625
01:30:21,655 --> 01:30:25,095
Speaker 7: a cavity, in which case you could just you know,

1626
01:30:25,215 --> 01:30:27,415
Speaker 7: leave a bit of an expansion gap because you will

1627
01:30:27,455 --> 01:30:33,535
Speaker 7: get movement in the plywood. From my experience, there's no

1628
01:30:33,575 --> 01:30:36,855
Speaker 7: actual requirement to seal that gap or to fill that gap,

1629
01:30:37,575 --> 01:30:39,935
Speaker 7: but I don't see any harm in doing it. If

1630
01:30:39,975 --> 01:30:43,615
Speaker 7: you used a flexible seilant through there, and then that

1631
01:30:43,775 --> 01:30:47,135
Speaker 7: cover baton would have weather grooves in it, and that

1632
01:30:47,255 --> 01:30:51,055
Speaker 7: just stops any moisture that might creep in, or as

1633
01:30:51,055 --> 01:30:53,975
Speaker 7: it's draining down the baton from sort of getting underneath

1634
01:30:53,975 --> 01:30:56,175
Speaker 7: the baton and then being able to get to the joint,

1635
01:30:56,215 --> 01:31:00,135
Speaker 7: it'll hit that little capillary groove in there and drain

1636
01:31:00,255 --> 01:31:03,335
Speaker 7: down from there. So yes, the groove in the baton

1637
01:31:03,415 --> 01:31:03,855
Speaker 7: is really.

1638
01:31:03,735 --> 01:31:09,375
Speaker 18: Important, right, all right, that's fine, that's good. Yeah, thanks

1639
01:31:09,495 --> 01:31:10,295
Speaker 18: very much for that, my.

1640
01:31:10,255 --> 01:31:13,455
Speaker 7: Pleasure and good luck with the new build all the

1641
01:31:13,495 --> 01:31:16,335
Speaker 7: very best. Take care thing. It has just gone fifteen

1642
01:31:16,335 --> 01:31:19,175
Speaker 7: minutes after eight oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is done.

1643
01:31:19,215 --> 01:31:20,575
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1644
01:31:20,535 --> 01:31:25,775
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1645
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1660
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1666
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1667
01:32:38,095 --> 01:32:38,895
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1668
01:32:39,895 --> 01:32:45,135
Speaker 9: Oh, good morning, Pete. Basically you have got done very good. Hey.

1669
01:32:45,655 --> 01:32:49,055
Speaker 9: I've got the chap who built our house some years

1670
01:32:49,055 --> 01:32:52,135
Speaker 9: ago did a good job of everything. It just took

1671
01:32:52,455 --> 01:32:56,255
Speaker 9: an unorthodox approach in one thing. And they's got the

1672
01:32:56,655 --> 01:33:00,415
Speaker 9: driveway sunk covers he built out of I suppose you

1673
01:33:00,455 --> 01:33:02,935
Speaker 9: call it sex botos that measures more about five x

1674
01:33:02,975 --> 01:33:09,255
Speaker 9: two timber. So he's got three places, got a sump

1675
01:33:10,415 --> 01:33:13,135
Speaker 9: with a wooden frame around it, and they measure more

1676
01:33:13,255 --> 01:33:17,615
Speaker 9: or less seven fifty five forty rectangle right, and he's

1677
01:33:17,655 --> 01:33:23,135
Speaker 9: got bits of five x two running cross ways, so

1678
01:33:23,335 --> 01:33:26,295
Speaker 9: you know, the shorter the shorter across the shorter dimension,

1679
01:33:27,895 --> 01:33:31,215
Speaker 9: all like heaps and nails nailed in and so they

1680
01:33:31,295 --> 01:33:33,055
Speaker 9: last for so many years and it goes so off

1681
01:33:33,055 --> 01:33:35,015
Speaker 9: fro he replace it. As we were buying the place

1682
01:33:35,095 --> 01:33:39,055
Speaker 9: at saw him knocking the new one to give it.

1683
01:33:39,055 --> 01:33:41,295
Speaker 9: It's rather intriguing because you know, like one of them,

1684
01:33:41,295 --> 01:33:43,135
Speaker 9: it's right in the middle of the driveway and you

1685
01:33:43,175 --> 01:33:45,895
Speaker 9: can't get a wheel onto it if you tried, unless

1686
01:33:45,895 --> 01:33:49,455
Speaker 9: you had a motorcyclist. But another one is right by

1687
01:33:49,815 --> 01:33:53,775
Speaker 9: in front of a car port entrance, and you have

1688
01:33:53,895 --> 01:33:56,615
Speaker 9: to get a wheel over it, and you started to sag.

1689
01:33:56,655 --> 01:33:59,175
Speaker 9: And in the meantime, I've stuck a bit of heavy

1690
01:33:59,215 --> 01:34:01,335
Speaker 9: ply over it, and I'm going to make a new one,

1691
01:34:01,375 --> 01:34:05,095
Speaker 9: and I have to me I had three options. I

1692
01:34:05,095 --> 01:34:08,495
Speaker 9: thought I'd bounce off you. You might have a smarter idea,

1693
01:34:08,735 --> 01:34:12,695
Speaker 9: but I'd looked commercially and I couldn't because they're unusual

1694
01:34:12,855 --> 01:34:15,775
Speaker 9: size and have also their purpose built, you know, to

1695
01:34:15,815 --> 01:34:17,535
Speaker 9: fit that. You know you mentioned the hole that they

1696
01:34:17,695 --> 01:34:22,655
Speaker 9: slot into is not exactly a rectangle and it's exactly level,

1697
01:34:22,695 --> 01:34:26,615
Speaker 9: et cetera. And I figured, if I get them constructed

1698
01:34:26,615 --> 01:34:29,855
Speaker 9: out of steel, it'll cost a lot of dough and

1699
01:34:30,535 --> 01:34:33,375
Speaker 9: it would be a bit of a lure of one

1700
01:34:33,415 --> 01:34:36,815
Speaker 9: of these scrap metal these. That's probably that's a lesser.

1701
01:34:38,135 --> 01:34:41,015
Speaker 9: But what I thought of was I was going to

1702
01:34:41,095 --> 01:34:44,335
Speaker 9: put a try and cut a long story short. I

1703
01:34:44,375 --> 01:34:47,615
Speaker 9: was thinking of putting a replacing the wooden frame with

1704
01:34:47,735 --> 01:34:51,975
Speaker 9: new tan timber, and I was going to run cut

1705
01:34:52,295 --> 01:34:57,055
Speaker 9: get galve reinforcing rod twenty mire diameter get it hot,

1706
01:34:57,095 --> 01:35:00,295
Speaker 9: dip galvanized and cut off just you know, basically go

1707
01:35:00,375 --> 01:35:03,695
Speaker 9: across the short dimensions of five five to five forty

1708
01:35:03,735 --> 01:35:07,015
Speaker 9: long and make the spacing suchs that I've got at

1709
01:35:07,135 --> 01:35:11,775
Speaker 9: least like three rods supporting any wheel at any one time.

1710
01:35:11,815 --> 01:35:16,295
Speaker 9: And I used AI to do the quick colts. Wait

1711
01:35:17,495 --> 01:35:20,975
Speaker 9: the factors would be okay on that, And I thought

1712
01:35:21,295 --> 01:35:24,495
Speaker 9: that I was thinking with a something like that, They've

1713
01:35:24,495 --> 01:35:27,055
Speaker 9: got a grate on it, but basically the only water

1714
01:35:27,135 --> 01:35:29,735
Speaker 9: that ever goes down the grate is what falls directly

1715
01:35:29,775 --> 01:35:31,815
Speaker 9: from the sky. Like the water doesn't pour down the

1716
01:35:31,895 --> 01:35:35,175
Speaker 9: driveway and go into the grade as such. It's basically

1717
01:35:35,255 --> 01:35:39,575
Speaker 9: just a sum that other drains go into, and that

1718
01:35:39,615 --> 01:35:41,895
Speaker 9: comes along and it drains another and it catches silk,

1719
01:35:41,895 --> 01:35:44,695
Speaker 9: which I've got to dredge out from time to time. Right,

1720
01:35:45,055 --> 01:35:47,495
Speaker 9: And I was thinking, why does it have to be

1721
01:35:47,575 --> 01:35:50,415
Speaker 9: a great deal. I don't think it's an explosive environment.

1722
01:35:50,495 --> 01:35:53,415
Speaker 9: There is no it's not used for water ingress. And

1723
01:35:53,455 --> 01:35:55,375
Speaker 9: so I was thinking I could put a if I

1724
01:35:55,495 --> 01:35:59,415
Speaker 9: put my rods in so sitting slightly down and put

1725
01:35:59,415 --> 01:36:02,015
Speaker 9: a heavy grade of good quality ply or something like

1726
01:36:02,055 --> 01:36:04,775
Speaker 9: that over the top of it, and essentially cap off

1727
01:36:04,815 --> 01:36:08,175
Speaker 9: that hole, but it would have flow around the edges

1728
01:36:08,215 --> 01:36:08,455
Speaker 9: of it.

1729
01:36:10,975 --> 01:36:13,895
Speaker 7: I have to say there's a rather unusual circumstances that

1730
01:36:15,255 --> 01:36:18,735
Speaker 7: ye maybe one, but three just seems like but excessive.

1731
01:36:19,215 --> 01:36:23,735
Speaker 7: So the sump is not there as a catch pit

1732
01:36:23,895 --> 01:36:25,815
Speaker 7: to collect surface water.

1733
01:36:26,815 --> 01:36:30,935
Speaker 9: No, No, there's one of them which is pretty well

1734
01:36:30,975 --> 01:36:34,015
Speaker 9: out of the way and it has got drainage channels

1735
01:36:34,015 --> 01:36:37,295
Speaker 9: that run along the edge below a retaining wall and

1736
01:36:37,335 --> 01:36:39,615
Speaker 9: it goes and it goes in the side of it.

1737
01:36:40,215 --> 01:36:42,215
Speaker 9: There's another one up the driveway and it does have

1738
01:36:42,295 --> 01:36:44,935
Speaker 9: to a groove running from each side of the driveway

1739
01:36:45,135 --> 01:36:47,775
Speaker 9: a channel that runs into it. But I've been here

1740
01:36:47,775 --> 01:36:51,415
Speaker 9: for nearly twenty years and they've never seen. It's a

1741
01:36:51,415 --> 01:36:54,775
Speaker 9: great place for weeds to grow and and you know

1742
01:36:54,855 --> 01:36:58,935
Speaker 9: like it. And it's just the shape six everything. We're

1743
01:36:58,935 --> 01:37:02,375
Speaker 9: on a steep section and everything. We don't have a

1744
01:37:02,375 --> 01:37:04,655
Speaker 9: flooding assue or anything, and a surface water or as

1745
01:37:04,695 --> 01:37:06,855
Speaker 9: sue or anything. It tends to, you know, only when

1746
01:37:06,855 --> 01:37:10,175
Speaker 9: we've had New Auckland storms falling it round now. But

1747
01:37:10,215 --> 01:37:12,455
Speaker 9: it's just I've been out there with you know, rain

1748
01:37:12,535 --> 01:37:14,415
Speaker 9: coat and brolly and all the sort of thing, watching

1749
01:37:14,535 --> 01:37:16,975
Speaker 9: and you just don't get it's not it doesn't catch.

1750
01:37:17,415 --> 01:37:20,175
Speaker 7: So in terms of how it's constructed within the opening,

1751
01:37:20,335 --> 01:37:23,055
Speaker 7: is there like a lip or a rebait that that

1752
01:37:23,135 --> 01:37:24,615
Speaker 7: the lid sits in.

1753
01:37:25,655 --> 01:37:28,775
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's. It's the frame. So that basically the women

1754
01:37:29,775 --> 01:37:33,655
Speaker 9: five x two or six x two timber frame. So

1755
01:37:33,695 --> 01:37:36,815
Speaker 9: as you imagine there's a rough rectangle there and the

1756
01:37:37,175 --> 01:37:40,175
Speaker 9: if you call it like bars running across, they are

1757
01:37:40,215 --> 01:37:44,135
Speaker 9: actually made from five x two, all nailed in the

1758
01:37:44,295 --> 01:37:48,895
Speaker 9: ends and dropped in there, and it's and it's okay, yeah,

1759
01:37:48,895 --> 01:37:52,255
Speaker 9: it's very people tend to know anything about.

1760
01:37:52,655 --> 01:37:55,495
Speaker 7: I have to say, look at My inclination would be

1761
01:37:55,655 --> 01:37:58,215
Speaker 7: to go for, you know, a slightly more permanent solution.

1762
01:37:58,735 --> 01:38:01,775
Speaker 7: That would involve, let's say, some checker plate and a

1763
01:38:01,815 --> 01:38:05,175
Speaker 7: bit of reinforcing that you could have made by a

1764
01:38:05,175 --> 01:38:08,375
Speaker 7: local engineer. Get it hot to galvanized, you put it

1765
01:38:08,415 --> 01:38:11,655
Speaker 7: in will it Will it stay there on its own?

1766
01:38:11,775 --> 01:38:14,055
Speaker 7: Or does it need some fixings to hold it in place?

1767
01:38:14,855 --> 01:38:18,495
Speaker 9: It'll just it'll just sit there. The same thing with

1768
01:38:19,055 --> 01:38:25,655
Speaker 9: checker plays. It's I find checker plate an engineer by trade,

1769
01:38:25,655 --> 01:38:27,655
Speaker 9: but I find it own checker plated, but slippery. But

1770
01:38:27,695 --> 01:38:29,295
Speaker 9: it's also when you run over.

1771
01:38:29,935 --> 01:38:33,735
Speaker 7: Okay, what about The other option would be, could you

1772
01:38:34,735 --> 01:38:37,415
Speaker 7: essentially take a mold of the opening that you've got

1773
01:38:37,855 --> 01:38:41,335
Speaker 7: and cast a concrete lid that you could then leave

1774
01:38:41,335 --> 01:38:42,015
Speaker 7: her into place?

1775
01:38:47,135 --> 01:38:49,935
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, I could.

1776
01:38:50,055 --> 01:38:52,935
Speaker 7: You know, if if you've got I have to think.

1777
01:38:52,775 --> 01:38:56,055
Speaker 9: About how well do there's a cast home cast concrete

1778
01:38:56,095 --> 01:38:58,815
Speaker 9: lid support weight right in this way to a vehicle

1779
01:38:58,895 --> 01:39:00,255
Speaker 9: right in the center.

1780
01:39:00,615 --> 01:39:03,615
Speaker 7: Yes, you would need to consider that, but you know,

1781
01:39:03,655 --> 01:39:06,695
Speaker 7: if you put some reinforcing in it, and if was

1782
01:39:06,815 --> 01:39:09,735
Speaker 7: able to be made deep enough, I suppose the other

1783
01:39:09,815 --> 01:39:12,815
Speaker 7: option would be, could you cut the area out and

1784
01:39:12,855 --> 01:39:16,215
Speaker 7: get a conventional manhole lid like a steel ring with

1785
01:39:16,255 --> 01:39:20,295
Speaker 7: a circular lid that you could put in it's But

1786
01:39:20,455 --> 01:39:22,495
Speaker 7: then chances are you've got to do quite a lot

1787
01:39:22,495 --> 01:39:25,375
Speaker 7: of repair to the concrete either side of it as well.

1788
01:39:26,055 --> 01:39:32,015
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's quite a nice concrete down the drive

1789
01:39:32,215 --> 01:39:33,135
Speaker 9: and then sort of up.

1790
01:39:33,375 --> 01:39:35,135
Speaker 7: You don't want to go patching that up a little

1791
01:39:36,135 --> 01:39:37,015
Speaker 7: not bracks.

1792
01:39:36,695 --> 01:39:39,775
Speaker 9: But like bricks along the edge, and it's got I'm

1793
01:39:39,815 --> 01:39:44,775
Speaker 9: with you, it's even got flipped opside different stone chip

1794
01:39:44,815 --> 01:39:48,015
Speaker 9: and oxide. But no, that's that's actually quite a good thought.

1795
01:39:48,055 --> 01:39:49,495
Speaker 9: I'm gonna that's definitely one.

1796
01:39:49,855 --> 01:39:51,855
Speaker 7: I mean, if you can work out the strength of

1797
01:39:51,895 --> 01:39:56,055
Speaker 7: it right so that it will support a vehicle driving

1798
01:39:56,055 --> 01:39:58,975
Speaker 7: over it, and you were able to do it in concrete,

1799
01:39:58,975 --> 01:40:02,215
Speaker 7: obviously you need to cast in some lifting eyes or

1800
01:40:02,255 --> 01:40:04,775
Speaker 7: something like that, or some provision if you needed to

1801
01:40:04,775 --> 01:40:06,815
Speaker 7: get in there. And as you say, you need to

1802
01:40:06,815 --> 01:40:08,535
Speaker 7: get in there from time to time to clean out

1803
01:40:08,535 --> 01:40:11,775
Speaker 7: the silt. I mean, you know that's why they're there,

1804
01:40:11,815 --> 01:40:16,855
Speaker 7: and people remarkably seem to forget that part that you

1805
01:40:16,895 --> 01:40:19,415
Speaker 7: know they're there to collect the silt, and when they're

1806
01:40:19,495 --> 01:40:21,535
Speaker 7: full of silt, they don't work anymore. Right, And I

1807
01:40:21,575 --> 01:40:25,295
Speaker 7: was standing outside one property where there was vegetation growing

1808
01:40:25,335 --> 01:40:27,215
Speaker 7: out of the catch pit, right that had so much

1809
01:40:27,255 --> 01:40:29,655
Speaker 7: silt and it turned into a garden. And I'm looking

1810
01:40:29,655 --> 01:40:32,135
Speaker 7: at that, going, well, there's a reason that you've got

1811
01:40:32,135 --> 01:40:35,535
Speaker 7: a bit of flooding. I'm sure you're not in that situation.

1812
01:40:35,895 --> 01:40:38,615
Speaker 7: So look, I would you know, I get what you're

1813
01:40:38,615 --> 01:40:41,495
Speaker 7: saying about the steel lid. If it's checker plate, it

1814
01:40:41,575 --> 01:40:43,735
Speaker 7: can get a bit slippery. I guess you could try

1815
01:40:43,735 --> 01:40:45,615
Speaker 7: and treat that in some way or coat it with

1816
01:40:45,735 --> 01:40:49,375
Speaker 7: something with some grit in it. But otherwise if you

1817
01:40:49,415 --> 01:40:53,095
Speaker 7: could make a mold of it effectively and cast in

1818
01:40:53,175 --> 01:40:55,295
Speaker 7: a concrete lid, as long as you've got the strength right,

1819
01:40:55,335 --> 01:40:58,055
Speaker 7: that might be an option. Good luck with all of that, mate,

1820
01:40:58,215 --> 01:41:00,815
Speaker 7: sounds like great project. All right, all the best are

1821
01:41:00,855 --> 01:41:04,895
Speaker 7: and take care. Just another couple of techs have come

1822
01:41:04,935 --> 01:41:08,175
Speaker 7: through following on from Koda's comment about you know, wanting

1823
01:41:08,215 --> 01:41:12,615
Speaker 7: to drill a reasonable large, reasonably large hole through the

1824
01:41:12,695 --> 01:41:15,935
Speaker 7: exterior cladding one hundred and seventeen mil to get some

1825
01:41:16,055 --> 01:41:20,015
Speaker 7: ducting through in this case for some venting. But often

1826
01:41:20,495 --> 01:41:25,415
Speaker 7: we're seeing a similar thing where people are retrofitting let's say,

1827
01:41:25,415 --> 01:41:29,175
Speaker 7: heat pumps to existing buildings and people will often go, oh, look,

1828
01:41:29,255 --> 01:41:33,055
Speaker 7: let's put the heat pump unit above the window, and

1829
01:41:33,655 --> 01:41:37,935
Speaker 7: inadvertently or with lack of due care and attention, people

1830
01:41:37,975 --> 01:41:41,975
Speaker 7: will drill through the lintel right undermining the strength of

1831
01:41:41,975 --> 01:41:44,055
Speaker 7: the lintel. So a couple of people have tacked through

1832
01:41:44,215 --> 01:41:47,735
Speaker 7: and said numerous horror stories of this sort of thing

1833
01:41:47,775 --> 01:41:51,615
Speaker 7: where people have just not taken due care and attention

1834
01:41:51,895 --> 01:41:54,415
Speaker 7: or they don't really know what they're doing, and they

1835
01:41:54,415 --> 01:41:56,495
Speaker 7: go and blast a great big hole through either the

1836
01:41:56,535 --> 01:42:00,615
Speaker 7: exterior cladding and then cause a leak or blasts through

1837
01:42:00,855 --> 01:42:03,735
Speaker 7: and take out you know, a significant structural element of

1838
01:42:03,775 --> 01:42:06,175
Speaker 7: the building. So you've really got to there's got to

1839
01:42:06,175 --> 01:42:08,615
Speaker 7: be some consideration where do I put it, what's safe?

1840
01:42:08,655 --> 01:42:10,175
Speaker 7: And if you're not sure what you're doing, or you

1841
01:42:10,175 --> 01:42:13,415
Speaker 7: don't feel your contractor knows what they're doing, get some

1842
01:42:13,415 --> 01:42:17,615
Speaker 7: professional advice. Righty, oh, it is almost eight thirty. I

1843
01:42:17,655 --> 01:42:20,735
Speaker 7: think it's time to change gear and jump into the garden.

1844
01:42:20,975 --> 01:42:22,935
Speaker 7: Root will be with us in just a moment. If

1845
01:42:22,975 --> 01:42:25,175
Speaker 7: you'd like to call call us now, oh eight hundred

1846
01:42:25,255 --> 01:42:26,015
Speaker 7: eighty ten eighty.

1847
01:42:26,615 --> 01:42:29,575
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

1848
01:42:29,575 --> 01:42:31,655
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall, give Peter

1849
01:42:31,735 --> 01:42:34,935
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