1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your Property search simple, 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: News Talks, it'd. 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Be welcome into your Tuesday. Thank you so much for 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: choosing us. Coming up over the next sixty minutes. In 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: a moment, the government announces that the patch ban is 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: shaking the tree. But how long will it remain effective? 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 2: We're talking to Chris Kle from the Police Association of 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: five minutes, Germany voted and now Germany is forming a government. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: But what will be the shape of the new Germany? 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Who will Fredrick Mattz choose and where is he going? 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: Will go to Berlin shortly and Andrew Bailey quits, but 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: what does that really tell us about the depth of 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: the National Party talent pool. We'll have those stories, plus 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: correspondence from around New Zealand and around the world, and 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: news as it breaks over the next sixty minutes. You 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: can text me as well. Ninety two ninety two is 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: the text number of small charge does apply? You can 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: email Dickens at News Talks he be co dot Nz. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: It's seven after five. 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: The agenda and it's Tuesday. 22 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: The twenty fifth of February and first to Germany, where 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: the Frederick Metz, the man said to lead the country, 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: has addressed the press for the first time since the 25 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: stamp election. So Matz's relatively conservative CDUCSU alliance has won 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: twenty eight point six percent of the vote. He says 27 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: the number of seats received allows them to form a 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: coalition with only the Social Democrats, which he says is 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: the ideal in outcome. There's also, of course, the alternative 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: deutsch Land Party that's wanting to take them right wing. 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: He's always said that the US's willingness to engage with 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Europe is dwindling, but he said now that he's got 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: the big job, he wants to maintain good translator transatlantic relations. 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: It's clear that we in Europe need very rapidly to 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: become able to act. We need to be able to 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: organize our own defense. That has top priority over the 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: next few weeks. 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, still in Europe and Ukraine, a senior Ukrainian official 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: says the US and Ukraine are close to agreeing a 40 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: minerals deal. The US wants access to Ukraine's minerals in 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: return for military aid, including the military aid they've already given, 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: but Ukraine wants security guarantees in return. Meanwhile, a summit 43 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: with European leaders has been taking place in Kiev for 44 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 2: the third anniversary of the start of the war, which 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: was yesterday. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has been speaking to reporters. 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: He says a complete prisoner of war exchange with Russia 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: could be the start of ending the war. 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: This war is difficult to find just because of such 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 4: steps of Russia, their way of this war. How many 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: people they killed to kill them, and thousands in the 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: prison and stolen children. And that's why we'll. 52 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Never forget it, and we can't forget it. 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: What a cinematic voice. And finally, to the health of 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: Pope Francis, who was in a critical condition with double pneumonia. 55 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: The eighty eight year old has spent his tenth night 56 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: in intensive care at the Gamieri Hospital in Rome. 57 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: We will got a little. 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 5: Bit more information from Vatican sources who actually said that 59 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: the Pope. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: Was eating normally. 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: They said they suggested he was in good humor and 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: that he was not in pain, because there had been 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 5: a comment over the weekend talking about his suffering having increased, 64 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 5: and said, I think they wanted us to underline that 65 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 5: he is not in pain, and particularly I think to 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: underline that he is conscious. He is there, he is 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 5: being treated, although he is of course still in a 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: critical condition. 69 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Andrew the ICC Champions Trophy, New Zealand playing Bangladesh. New 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: Zealand needs just twenty five runs and fifty three balls 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: to win. Run rate of just what two point seven two? Oh, 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: look they just scored another four. It's looking good for us. 73 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: It is ten alf to five. 74 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Edrew dickins all of the leadership, but with one roof 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: make your property search simple, youth dog zibby. 76 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: So, with all eyes on President Trump's idiosyncratic diplomacy methods, 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: there's been little attention to the fact that America has 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: very little choice when it comes to leadership. It was 79 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: a headline in the New York Times the other day 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: and it said we have no coherent message. Democrats struggle 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: to oppose Trump. So a reporter from the Times claims 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: to have interviewed fifty senior Democrats since the US election 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: and reported that all are bereft of direction and belief. 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: They just know what to do and say when faced 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: with the Trump tornado. That's only a month old, but rare. 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: The action comes as any surprise. Kamana Harris didn't know 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: what to say during the election except to yell even 88 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: more madly that Trump was mad and bad. Joe Biden 89 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: spent four years not really knowing how to beat Trump's glowing, 90 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 2: radioactive aura. Some suggest he wasn't too sure of anything. 91 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: In fact, Nancy Pelosi continued to run the Democrats right 92 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: into her eighties. There's been no accession plan for the Democrats, 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: no bright, young voices, no philosophy. The Democrat's only policy 94 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: plank is that everything Trump stands for is crazy forgetting 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: that the things Trump stands for just got a mandate 96 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: well over fifty percent. And this is happening all over 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: the left wing world. Look what happened in Germany. It's 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: not unfair to say the left here in New Zealand 99 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: is also unsure of its place in the world other 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: than to diss many things that working class people believe in. 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: That said, the Republicans are also unsure of themselves. They 102 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: have no vision other than backing the extraordinary popularity of 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He is the rap they're willing to swallow. 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: So you could say the States is a bit lost 105 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: and Trump seems to be the only one who knows 106 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: where he's going, and if no successor is found in 107 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: four years, I guess he may have an idea of 108 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: where to go next after that and that might be 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: something that the world could dread. Andrew Diggins Andrew Rugby 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: after the Blues capitulation at the hands of the Highland 111 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: as they're left with some shattered reputations and no more 112 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: so than Bowden Barrett so Chris Ratiue in The Herald 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: this Morning is arguing that Body's lack of presence, particularly 114 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: in the second half, suggests that maybe his time has passed. 115 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: In the Black Jersey, he says that time is running 116 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: out for the thirty three year old and it's time 117 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: for the All Backs to future proof there squad by 118 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: bringing in new young talent. And look, I have to 119 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: feel for Body, Barrett. I'm sure you do as well. 120 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: He's been shuffled from pillar to posts because of his 121 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: extraordinary talent in two positions, from firse five to fullback. 122 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: He's been shuffled around. He's not been allowed to cement 123 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: his place in either as the abs accommodate other talents 124 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: like Richie Muanga and Damian Mackenzie. And the other side 125 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: effect of that shuffling is that people like Will Jordan 126 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: get shoe horned into other positions. He gets pushed out 127 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: of fullback, he ends up playing wing. He's played wing 128 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: as much as he's ever played fullback, and it has 129 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: been an all black thing of late. Body's brother, Jordan 130 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: has also been experimented with. He's shuffled between second five 131 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: and fullback, but now he's making second five of his own. Now, 132 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: let's not beat a bu the bush. Bowden Barrett is 133 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: still a magnificent player, and I would play him this season, 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: but a World Cup is always bearing down on us. 135 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: He will be thirty six by the time it's here. 136 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: And as the high than this game showed us, there 137 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: was a twenty one year old on that field called 138 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: Finn Hurley who turned heads. And there is a new 139 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: generation coming Dickens. So it's thirteen minutes after five. The 140 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: patch band is in and the patch band has worked. 141 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: People who have been arrested in three thousand charges have 142 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: been laid and so there was much crowing about this yesterday, 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: but how much longer will it continue to work? We're 144 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: going to talk to Chris Cahill from the Police Association. Next, 145 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: this is News Talk zeb. 146 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day, early 147 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and One Room to make Your 148 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Property Surge and. 149 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: Civil You talks with me sixteen minutes after five. So 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: the gang patch ban appears to be going well. This 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: is according to police figures. It's only been what what 152 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: has it been every month since the band came into place, 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: and since then police have laid just over three thousand charges. 154 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: They've seized over seventy it was about seventy firearms, and 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: they've seized a total of seventy six patches. So Chris 156 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Carhill is the president of the Police Association. He's got 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: up early for us. Good morning, dear Chris, Good morning Andrew. 158 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: Ten thousand Patch gang members in this country, seventy six 159 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: patches confiscated. Did we only catch the stupid ones? 160 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 6: Well, no, it's actually that the gangs comply with the 161 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 6: law a lot better than probably anyone anticipated. Really. I 162 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 6: think they realized very quickly that if they wear their pats, 163 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 6: they're going to lose it permanently, and if they police 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: don't act immediately, because they might be safe. Too. Many 165 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 6: gang members et cetera. Police will turn up with a 166 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 6: search forum the next morning, and that's where they've been 167 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 6: getting the good results with all the firearms, et cetera. 168 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 6: So their compliance has been really good. 169 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: Do we underestimate the gang's intelligence and organization. 170 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 6: I think we have to be care for that. Just 171 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 6: because we're not seen in the public with their patches, 172 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 6: they're not still continuing to commit their crime. And that's 173 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 6: sort of a separate issue for police that they've got 174 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 6: to continue their large scale organized crime investigations. But from 175 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 6: a public perspective, you're not seeing these gang members patched 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 6: up in the street and that's a good thing. 177 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good vibe. But we're here to fight crime. 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Is this fighting crime enough? 179 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a different way of doing it. 180 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's important that you're feeling safe 181 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 6: is sometimes just as important as as being safe. And 182 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 6: when the public are out there, they're at the cafes 183 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 6: that are in the main street and they're not seeing 184 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 6: the groups of Patch members, that makes them feel safer. 185 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 6: But certainly police still have to keep up those operations. 186 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: In the fact they've laid three thousand charges for different 187 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 6: types of offenses says that they're still doing that. 188 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: Of course, I ended up behind a gang convoy the 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: other day on State Highway too, and no patches, that's 190 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: for sure. But there were a lot of white T 191 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: shirts that were a lot of black leather Jerkins who 192 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: was obviously the Harley Davidson's and they all seem to 193 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: have a bandanna and one or the other of their pockets. 194 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: So they've just moved on to a different way of 195 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: signifying their presence, haven't they. 196 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 6: To a degree though, I think if you talk to 197 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 6: the public and police have that saying it feels safe 198 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: and not seeing the big patches where they use them 199 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 6: to intimidate, it is making a difference. I think the 200 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 6: long term will will it actually reduce gang numbers? I 201 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 6: think that's something that's going to take a while to understand. 202 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. My final question is how long will this 203 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: remain effective? Because we only got seventy six out of 204 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: ten thousand and so, as I said at the beginning, 205 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: they were the stupid ones. The smart ones are going 206 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 2: to get away from the patch, and as we saw 207 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: on the telly there, so people are going to say 208 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: there was a gang member there who say, well, you're 209 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: going to see a whole lot more facial tattoos. So 210 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: the question is how long will the gang patch rules 211 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: remain effective in shaking the tree to find the other crimes? 212 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 6: Well, that is you know, time will be the one 213 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 6: that clearly tells that, I think, But you know the 214 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 6: fact there's been three thousand charges, so it says it's 215 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 6: been pretty effective at the moment and keeping the setting 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 6: that control over the gangs. Everything will adapt and police 217 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 6: will have to adapt as well. But I still think 218 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 6: I'd rather see streets without those gang patches on them 219 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 6: than what we had oh prior to that. Oh. 220 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, don't get me wrong. I'm behind the gang patch. 221 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: It has been great. It has given a better vibe 222 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: around the place. I thank you for your comments, Chris 223 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: Carhill for the Police Association president, your reactions. Love the 224 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: gang page rules. They now look just like regular writers 225 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: on the road and it must look less appealing to 226 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: new recruits. Thank you for your texts. And Paulin writes 227 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: the new gang uniform is white T shirts. At least 228 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: they look clean. It is five twenty. Germany is facing 229 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: a new future. Frederick Matz has the whip hand and 230 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: forming a coalition. He used to or he represents the 231 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: party that used to be with Angular Merkle, but he's 232 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 2: been sounding a little bit more right wing and a 233 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: little bit more conservative over this election. Now how he 234 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: gets to form a coalition, but with who we'll find 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: out in a few moments time as we cross to Berlin. 236 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: It is five twenty. 237 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens 238 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: and One Route to make your property search simple. News talks. 239 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: It'd be if you've just got up. New Zealand is 240 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: playing Bangladesh and the ICC Champions Trophy and New Zealand 241 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 2: needs thirteen runs now in thirty eight balls. And if 242 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: you've just woken up, you won't know the news that 243 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: Ration Revender got himself a fantastics entry one hundred and 244 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: twelve The Boys on Fire. It is now five twenty two. 245 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: It has been a momentous twenty four hours in German 246 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: politics following the snap federal elections. The Conservative Alliance is 247 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: once again the driving force, winning twenty eight point six 248 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: percent of the vote and Philaderri Kametz is set to 249 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: be the new chancellor. But the question is who are 250 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: they going to form a coalition with Thorston Benner is 251 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: the co founder and director of the Global Public Policy Institute. 252 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 2: He's in Berlin and joins us out. Good morning to you, Thorston. 253 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 7: Good morning, Andrew, thanks for having me. 254 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: How has it been You're in Germany. What are the 255 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: people saying? 256 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 7: Well, it depends on what the people's predilections are. Those 257 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 7: who love extreme right wing forces there over the moon. 258 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 7: Because every fifth German, more than twenty percent voted for 259 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 7: a far right party, the so called alternative for Germany. 260 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 7: There's the rest of the population, the eighty percent, they're 261 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 7: probably less happy about this. I have lots of friends 262 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 7: with a migrant background who are thinking about maybe leaving Germany. 263 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 7: If the AfD that established itself as the dominant force 264 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 7: in German politics in this election in all of Germany's 265 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 7: East will kind of be let let into power. So 266 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 7: it's a sober It's a sober day for German politics. 267 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 7: We've had this experiment one hundred years ago didn't go 268 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 7: so well, so most of the population still is not 269 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 7: in for a real right. 270 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, Frederick Mahtz has to form the coalition, and he 271 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: has actually already said he'd like to make a coalition 272 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: with the Social Democrats, Now, the problem there is the 273 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: Social Democrats had a terrible election, got their worst result 274 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: and as you mentioned, the ad F, the Alternative for 275 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: deutsch Land party, the right wing party, had a great election. 276 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: So is Metz going to go with the Social Democrats 277 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: or will he? 278 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 7: That's the only that's the only option, basically because out 279 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 7: the Christian Democrats have ruled out solemnly forming any sort 280 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 7: of coalition or any sort of cohabitation with the far 281 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 7: right Alternative for Germany, so that only leaves him one option, 282 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 7: that is to go with the Social Democrats, which is 283 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 7: one of the better outcomes because it's only a two 284 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 7: party coalition that's necessary. So it was a nail bier 285 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 7: in the early morning hours yesterday because because it was 286 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 7: unclear whether some of the parties would make the five 287 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 7: percent threshold in the end, and two parties didn't make it, 288 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 7: so that allows the SPD and Fredrik Matz to form 289 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 7: a coalition. The SPD is not, you know, super happy 290 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 7: about it. They're licking their wounds. But I think given 291 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 7: you know, you need to look at what the security 292 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 7: situation Germany finds itself with a war at our doorstep, 293 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 7: where Donald Trump is pulling the rug from under our feet. 294 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 7: So we need a government that is able, that is 295 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 7: able to act. And I think in the end the 296 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 7: Social Democrats will not will kind of get over their 297 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 7: grief and join a coalition, but it may not be 298 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 7: an easy process getting there. 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Thoston, I think you for your time. Thoston Ben 300 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: a co found a director of the Global Public Policy 301 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: Institute in Berlin. And what will be interesting is once 302 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: they form their coalition where the policies go. Because Frederic 303 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: Metz over the course of the election said that he 304 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: was going to crack down a little bit more on immigration. 305 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: And remember his party was Angela Mercer's party had an 306 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: open immigration policy. So we'll wait to see. It is 307 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: five twenty six. News Talks A B. 308 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 309 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: News Talks it B, News. 310 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: Talks e B. It is five twenty eight. How many times, 311 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: don't be honest with me. How many times, in the 312 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: middle of an intense argument with a stupid workmate have 313 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: you been tempted just to box their leather ears thumps 314 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: some sense into them. Obviously you don't. In fact, you 315 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: know that you can't even touch them. You can glower 316 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: and scowl and talk with a low, harsh intensity, but 317 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: no touchy touchy and no raised voices. Unfortunately, Andrew Bailey touchy, 318 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: touchied and raise his voice. But what is good about 319 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: this is that he knew it. Sometimes you have to 320 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: hold yourself to account, is what he said at his 321 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: press conference when he resigned. What a great line. Wouldn't 322 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: you love more people to hold themselves to account. Some 323 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: might say that he was just trying to get urgency 324 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: and getting things done, but that's not so. These are 325 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: uncivil times. We need to be civil. We need to 326 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: remember that basic courtesy and respect for others must exist. 327 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: If the strength of your argument is so strong, you 328 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: will not need to shake some sense into anyone. And 329 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: I think the world would be better if we have 330 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: people who were not so inclined to call anyone they 331 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: disagree with Amron or to threaten them if they have 332 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: a different point of view. Now there are some we 333 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: know who who are making political capital out of the 334 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: gap between Friday's resignation and Monday's announcement. Personally, I think 335 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: that's petty. He just spent a week innd pulling himself 336 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: together to face the music, and when he faced the 337 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: music and told us that he was resigning. You can 338 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 2: see how close he was to tears. I think Andrew 339 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 2: Bailey acted like a fool with his staff member, but 340 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: he acted in his resignation with honor. And the next 341 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: version of Andrew Bailey will be even better. He's got 342 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: a ton of experience. But this leaves a problem for 343 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: the National Party. They're running out of experienced talents. 344 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, so. 345 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about that with Bridget Morton in 346 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: a few moments time, or just before six. In a 347 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: few moments time, I have a really cool job for you. 348 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: And by really cool, I mean really cool. 349 00:17:59,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: Too. 350 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Yay on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition 351 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property Search 352 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: Simple Youth Talk said be. 353 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 5: Q please. 354 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 8: Say hey, good morning to you. 355 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: Welcoming to your Tuesday morning. IM Andrew Dickens filling in 356 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: for Ryan Bridge. We'll be back with you on the 357 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: Time Show this afternoon. It's a hot summer. It's a 358 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: hot late summer. Don't you think the number of temperatures 359 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: in the thirties right now quite incredible right up and 360 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: down the country. And if that late summer heat is 361 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 2: starting to get to you. How about moving to Antarctica. 362 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: Scott Base is looking for forty people to join the 363 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: twenty five to twenty six research program. Here's the kicker. 364 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: You don't have to be a scientist. What they really 365 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: need is engineers and trades and cleaners and cooks and 366 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: mechanics and doctors because Scott Based is basically a small 367 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: town and so they need everybody. Twelve of the forty 368 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: will be needed to winter over. That would be quite 369 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: a hard experience, but interesting. So look, I'm in. If 370 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: you need a radio show Scott Base, I'll come down now. 371 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 2: I'll do it because it'll be incredible, also challenging, But 372 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 2: aren't the most incredible experiences challenging the best experiences are. 373 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: Now Here's the thing. I work with a woman whose 374 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: dad has been going down for four months every year 375 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: for a decade. And his job he runs the pub. 376 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: He runs the bar in Scott Base, the world's southernmost bar, 377 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: and has been so much fun that he's been prepared 378 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: to abandon his family each and every year. And he 379 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: comes back with great T shirts and they're proud of him. 380 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 6: And now. 381 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: Applications closed on March the sixteenth. You can go to 382 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: the Antarctica New Zealand website and apparently it's a cool job. 383 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: Dickens Callum proc Joe speaking of cool is in Dunedan. 384 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 2: Hello Callum lorn and Andrew. Weight lists at Otago Kidney's Yes, 385 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: we got the most of New Zealand when it comes 386 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: to weightlist. 387 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 9: There's new stats out that show almost two thirds of 388 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 9: Otago Early Childhood education providers have a weight list. This 389 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 9: new data from the Ministry of Education shows one hundred 390 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 9: and ninety four thousand kids attended licensed centers across New 391 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 9: Zealand last year. That was a two percent rise on 392 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 9: twenty twenty three. The number of services dropped though one percent. 393 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 9: Forty four percent had a weight list, with Otago having 394 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 9: the highest percentage of providers with those weightlists for children 395 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 9: age two, three and four. The Ministry says lo these 396 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 9: weightlists are not unusual because many parents choose to join 397 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 9: more than one when considering ECE options. 398 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: Now, how is your weather today? 399 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 7: Morning? 400 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 9: Rain eases, showers today clearing by this evening though to 401 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 9: find the high today twenty and. 402 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: I thank you Claise here we're joined us fro christiod 403 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: Hella Claire. Good morning, So tell me all about this 404 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 2: new cancer treatment for blood cancer. 405 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, my Church Hospital and Auckland City Hospital actually are 406 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 10: going to be the base of these two new clinical trials. 407 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 10: It's a Mallaghan Institute at phase two trial for Carte 408 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 10: cell therapy for blood cancers. Now, this is therapy that 409 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 10: reprograms a patient's immune cells to recognize and eliminate any 410 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 10: cancerous cells. The clinical director, Robert Weinecove, says a recent 411 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 10: trial for patients with relapsed lymphoma was a success. So 412 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 10: he says just over half of patients had a complete 413 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 10: response after they had exhausted all other treatment options. 414 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: How's your weather? 415 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 10: A bit of plad about today, increasing to some rain 416 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 10: from about mid day, northwesterlyies turning southerly and a maximum 417 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 10: of twenty. 418 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: Five And I thank you Max Tell from Wellington, good 419 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: morning to here. 420 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 11: Good morning. 421 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 12: Got another bar going bust exactly? This is winebar and 422 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 12: restaurant Plank on Custom House Key, which shuts up shop 423 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 12: now next month. It had only been open a couple 424 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 12: of years in a great location. It looked great, classy, sleek, 425 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 12: good reviews, but the operator tells us it's basically all 426 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 12: down to the CBD being a bit of a virtual 427 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 12: ghost town, low foot traffic. He says it's the toughest 428 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 12: he's seen since the two thousand and eight GFC job 429 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 12: cuts in the public sector, of course, but at the 430 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 12: same time people being urged to stop sitting on the 431 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 12: couch and actually come into work. So difficult to see 432 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 12: if and when things will pick up. Fewer people going 433 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 12: out as well and spending money. 434 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: Very good house. 435 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 12: Your weather should be mostly fine. Today's some stronger winds northerlies. 436 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 12: Twenty one the high central and. 437 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 2: Never writtenman who joins him from Aukland. Hell On Greetings. 438 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: So the newest Peck and Save in New Zealand in 439 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: Auckland is ready to go. Is this the one that's 440 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: the biggest ever? 441 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 7: Yes? 442 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 13: Apparently so well or ever ever in the whole wide world. 443 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 13: No give it ever in New Zealand, just in our world. Well, yes, 444 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 13: in our world, and what they're doing too. So this 445 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 13: is Peck and Save Highland Park opening up on Pokodong Road, 446 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 13: Pokodunga Road this morning. So it's six thousand squeamy to supermarket. 447 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 13: It's the first to be built. And this is where 448 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 13: it's really cool, a dedicated drive through area for customers 449 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 13: collecting the online shopping orders. So yeah, first of it's 450 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 13: kind Wade Brown, he's the owner. He says they're going 451 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 13: to have around two hundred and twenty stuff on the 452 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 13: floor today, hoping to increase that to two fifty one 453 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 13: set online service is ready. 454 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: Easy peasy with that. 455 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 13: That'll be really good if you have that drive through 456 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 13: doors open at seven thirty this morning, so you can 457 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 13: imagine there'll be quite a few of those locals. 458 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: Such a big business model. Now, how's Awkin's weather? 459 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 13: Partly cloudy, isolated chowers mainly this afternoon, but still hot 460 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 13: and humid here in Auckland, which it has been over 461 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 13: the last few nights. Twenty six is the high here. 462 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: Would you like to go to Antarctica? Applications are open 463 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: closed March sixteenth. We can go to Antarctica. When a radio, 464 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, I. 465 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 13: Saw that that would be quite cool. Someone was saying 466 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 13: that I just heard your name bendied around saying hey, 467 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 13: Andrew Dickens should go one way ticket. 468 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: That was not me either, Oh sure it was okay. 469 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: Now I'd like to shoot the messenger, thank you very much. 470 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 2: All right, Now, in other news. New Zealand has been 471 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 2: banging the dish in the ICALC Champions Trophy. They won 472 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: by five wickets. They had twenty three balls left. Russian 473 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: Revendra got one hundred and twelve and here's the final moments. 474 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 9: And there we go boundary to Michael Bracewell and that 475 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 9: seals the deal for New Zealand. They are officially into 476 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 9: the semi finals of the Champions Trophy. 477 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 8: Two from two and two very conclusive victories. 478 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: Well done. The boys are on fire. If will Will 479 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: Young got zero, by the way, he got a dark. 480 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: If he doesn't fire, someone else fires, ration has fired. 481 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: We're looking good. It is seventeen minutes to six. We're 482 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: off to Australia with Don and Demayo and we'll talk 483 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 2: a little bit about Andrew Bailey's resignation, whether it took 484 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: too long. I don't think so, and whether National is 485 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: starting to run out of people with appropriate political experience 486 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: because they've got so many first time as. We'll talk 487 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: more about this with Bridget Morton before six. It is 488 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: seventeen to two. 489 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind 490 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: for New Zealand. 491 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: With the time of fourteen to six. We welcome to 492 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: the program from Australia. Donna Tomorrow. Hello, Donna, Hey, Hey, 493 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: Dylan good. So, the boss of the federal department responsible 494 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: for parliament House has been sacked. His names Rob Stephanick. 495 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: What did he do and why was he sacked? 496 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 11: Well, he had lost the confidence and trust of the 497 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 11: politicians he reported to. And yes, you mentioned Rob Stephanick. 498 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 11: He was the Department of Parliamentary Services Secretary. Now he 499 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 11: did actually leave in December, but the nature whose departure 500 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 11: had been a secret for these months. You see, we've 501 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 11: now heard that it was a decision not taken lightly. 502 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 11: The details arose in a Senate estimates meeting yesterday. Now 503 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 11: he was a first appointed in twenty fifteen, so he 504 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 11: had the job for a little while. Now what exactly 505 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 11: does his department do. It's one of four, mind you, 506 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 11: that is responsible for the oversight of the Parliamentary Building 507 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 11: in Canberra. Last year we heard from ABC News it 508 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 11: was revealed that there was a reported toxic culture at 509 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 11: the department. Also last year, mister Stepnick faced questions about 510 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 11: his disclosure of a relationship with his former Deputy secretary, 511 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 11: Kate Saunders, who left the public service with a three 512 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 11: hundred and fifteen thousand dollars payment. And now we've just 513 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 11: got that little bit extra info on exactly what happened, 514 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 11: thanks to the Senate Estimates Committee. 515 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: Okay, then, now, gosh, there's a lot of fun in 516 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: Parliament House, isn't it. Now We've already done this obviously, 517 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: but now find the Australia has a Queensland company planning 518 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: to shoot a rocket into orbit. 519 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 11: Oh yes, sir Gilmore Space Technologies has been working on 520 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 11: this fourteen years and we've just heard that the North 521 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 11: Queensland Company is just weeks away from sending Australia's first 522 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 11: orble to rocket into space. As you can imagine, there's 523 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 11: lots of excitement in the town of Bowen. They hope 524 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 11: it's going to boost tourism. So they finally got their 525 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 11: airspace approval just late last year. And it looks like 526 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 11: as Australia's first space rocket will actually is set to 527 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 11: launch maybe from March fifteen or or onwards. So it 528 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 11: could happen on March fifteen or anytime after that. But 529 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 11: could you believe it a forecast tropical cyclone could interfere 530 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 11: with the launch. We're hearing that Cyclone Alfred is on 531 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 11: its way, so hopefully it doesn't happen for them and 532 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 11: it doesn't delay it again. But it's going to be 533 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 11: an unmanned rocket and I know you're gonna love this. 534 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,719 Speaker 11: There will be a jar of vegemite conto. 535 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: Of course, that's how the Australians colonize out of space 536 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: with vegimite. And I thank you so much that has 537 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: done in tomorrow. It is now eleven to six. 538 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens all. 539 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: Right, well, obviously Andrew Bailey I gave up his ministerial 540 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: portfolios after an incident with the staffer. He announced it yesterday. 541 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: He in fact resigned to the Prime Minister on Friday. 542 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: He apparently put his hand on the staffa's upper arm 543 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: during what he called an animated discussion. But he's refusing 544 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: to go into any detail about that discussion. He says 545 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 2: he's apologized, but it's not the first time his conduct 546 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: has been questioned. Political commentator bridget To Morton is with 547 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: me now. 548 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 14: Hello, bridget good morning. 549 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: So he slowly lost it in the public eye. Really, 550 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: he'd already done, he'd already had the Loser controversy. This 551 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: was the second one and he just realized that time 552 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: was running out. 553 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 14: Yeah. Absolutely. I think it's very clear that when you're 554 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 14: in an employer employee relationship like he was, that this 555 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 14: kind of behavior is inappropriate. He recognized that, the Prime 556 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 14: Minister recognized that he wasn't really any other way he 557 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 14: could go. 558 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: He's gone to the back benches. He hasn't gone completely. 559 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: Should he have gone completely? And if he has gone 560 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: to the back benches, is there any way he can 561 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: come back up? 562 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 6: Well? 563 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 14: I think you never say never when it comes to this, 564 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 14: but I think it's a difficult road. There's a lot 565 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 14: of talented people on that bench that are all waiting 566 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 14: to be a ministerial slot as well, So it's going 567 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 14: to be difficult for him to come back into the cabinet. 568 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: Okay, should he run for MP again or do you 569 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: think the electorate might have might have moved against him? 570 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 11: So? 571 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 14: I mean, he's got a very popular electorate. He's always 572 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 14: had a really strong result there, which seems to indicate 573 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 14: at least that there is some you know, respect for 574 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 14: him within the electorate. I think the election is still 575 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 14: a little bit way off, but it would come down 576 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 14: to whether or not that's what he wants to do 577 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 14: with his. 578 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 6: Career going forward. 579 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: Okay, now, look, you mentioned there's plenty of other backbenches 580 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: who want to step up into cabinet positions, but there 581 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: are other political editors have written that the problem with 582 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: the National Party, after being hollowed out by the Labor 583 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: Party in the previous election, they've got an awful lot 584 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: of first terms. Even our Prime minister is a first termer. 585 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: So here's the question, is National running out of experienced 586 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: politicians who have been in cabinet seats, who have been 587 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: in responsible positions. 588 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 14: Well, I mean Scott Somethon who stepped into Andrew Bailey's 589 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 14: shoes here has you know, he's been around a long time, 590 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 14: He's a very experienced of lecture MP, has previously been 591 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 14: a minister in the former government. So I think that's 592 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 14: an indication that there is some of that talent on 593 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 14: the backbench. Also, as many of us know that being 594 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 14: in parliament itself is not necessarily the only experience you 595 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 14: want for somebody going into being a minister. Sometimes having 596 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 14: those connections into the business world or health or education 597 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 14: a great criteria as well. 598 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, people are calling Chris Hipkins a hypocrite. 599 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 15: Do you reckon he was in terms of calling that 600 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 15: this wasn't dealt with cleanly. Yeah, I think it's been 601 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 15: a bit of a hypocrite here. We've just got to 602 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 15: look at the Michael Woods scandal. You know, it took 603 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 15: like three weeks. He was given personal leave, you know, 604 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 15: who's given multiple warnings. It's just not true that Hapkins 605 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 15: would say that, you know, his ministers would have been gone 606 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 15: within a couple of hours. 607 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: Yes, and therefore, did Christopher luxA make the wrong move 608 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: by allowing Bailey to have a weekend, you know, to 609 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: resign on Friday, have a weekend to pull himself together 610 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: and then announce it to the public. That's been criticized 611 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: as well. This has formed a hole that Chris Hickins 612 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: has gone for even for years hypocritical. So was that 613 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: a mistake by Christopher Luxon not to announce this all 614 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 2: on Friday? 615 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 14: I don't think so. I mean, is a weekkend. It's 616 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 14: the portfolios a commerce and consumer affairs. They're not something 617 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 14: in which he was going to be a major disaster 618 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 14: of the week. We're not talking about how or civil 619 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 14: defense for any of those kind of portfolios. Also, just 620 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 14: going to remember sometimes that politicians, a people too, and 621 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 14: being able to give his time to tell his family 622 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 14: and also the staff because remember all those staff in 623 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 14: his office have now actually lost their positions and have 624 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 14: to reapply or make decision about what they do next. 625 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 14: I think it's fears to actually endowed sort of that 626 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 14: to happen before the media starts, you know, having their 627 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 14: time to go through all of the questions. 628 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually maybe I'm maybe I'm an outlier. I 629 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 2: actually thought it was handled pretty well and with decency 630 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: to all players. So there we go. It's done, and 631 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: it is now seven minutes to six. We've got to 632 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: text and Baily seems to me to be someone who 633 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: doesn't have common sense or what I will call now 634 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: maybe so, but I think he actually saw great when 635 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: he resigned. It is now seven minutes to six. 636 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust has Starne Your Day's early 637 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property 638 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: Search Simple, You've talk Sibby. 639 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: This is now five minutester Sex's is a few health updates. 640 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: Die Hemwood, the comedian and television personality, has announced on 641 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: social media that the old cancer that's attacking him has 642 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: had a bit of a spurt over over summer, the 643 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: tumors and his lungs have grown. He's gone a bit wheezy, 644 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: so we wish him all the best. And in very 645 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: sad news, we learn that ROBERTA. Flack has died today 646 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: at the age of eighty eight. He's been battling motor 647 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: neuron disease for quite some time. Did you know her 648 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: last name? Her middle name is Cleopatra, lovely middle name, Cleopatra, 649 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: and she was regal. And here's something that's going to 650 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: bug me all day long. We're going to have the 651 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: news ROBERTA. Flack has died, and they're going to play 652 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: Killing Me Softly, which is a great song and her 653 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: biggest hit. But there are other songs too. I'd like 654 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: to hear us about Rotate. I like to hear first 655 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: time ever I Saw Your Face, which is the most 656 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: tender song performed brilliantly. Or feel Like Making Love. That's 657 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 2: the time I feel like making love. But there we are, 658 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking. Aren't you a music station? Yes, I'm on 659 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: you can you can do all. But I'm on a 660 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: great rock radio station. We won't touch VERTA Flack with 661 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: a barge pole. We won't even touch Carol King. Break 662 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: the format, okay, Mike, just feel free to you to 663 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: break the format, just and see play what you want 664 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: to play. 665 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 8: So that the Andrew Bailey thing, is it just me? 666 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 8: Or am I having I'm having tremendous difficulty getting exercised 667 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 8: about this. 668 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: It's like, who kids, I said, he. 669 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 8: Did it well and he resigned this hold, and I 670 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 8: would have sacked him in four minutes and you took 671 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 8: seven minutes. It's just like, honestly, we've surely we've got 672 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 8: vastly more important. I mean, the Chinese are here and 673 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 8: you know, come on, wake up to. 674 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: Christ Is saying the boat and Barrett has to go. 675 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: There's beggar issues to worry. 676 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 8: I just don't understand what's going on. I mean, probably 677 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 8: not the smartest thing. And ironically, on a day that 678 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 8: mister Clark turns up in court as an all black, 679 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 8: a professional, you know, what's a sack of all offense? 680 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 8: Is my point, calem So he turns up when he 681 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 8: pleads guilty to you know, not being stopped by the police. 682 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 8: Is that a sackable offense? If holding somebody's arm is 683 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 8: a seckable offense? What about running you know. 684 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 6: What I mean. 685 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: You Caleb's not in charge of anybody except himself. But 686 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: how are you surprised he was speeding? He's a winger. 687 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 8: But anyway, we'll talk about this more with Lux Neisen. 688 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: Oh good, great, And you're getting a lot of suggestions 689 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 2: about what to ask. 690 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Him for more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen 691 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: live to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, 692 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.