1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Time podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:22,973 Speaker 1: from News Talks at Be Really Hard. 3 00:00:25,093 --> 00:00:50,413 Speaker 2: He love Madri m Mala Stimberia. Here Crystal Draski, Philip. 4 00:00:58,453 --> 00:01:02,693 Speaker 3: Is Rosalia. The song is called Reliquia. She's got a 5 00:01:02,693 --> 00:01:07,853 Speaker 3: brand new album called Lax and christ has been Good morning, Jack. 6 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:08,533 Speaker 4: Did you get all that? 7 00:01:08,613 --> 00:01:09,373 Speaker 2: Did you understand it? 8 00:01:09,493 --> 00:01:11,133 Speaker 3: Well? She was running through. It was a bit of 9 00:01:11,133 --> 00:01:15,573 Speaker 3: a like a Tokyo Berlin Buenos Aire's situation. But no, 10 00:01:15,653 --> 00:01:18,693 Speaker 3: I didn't quite get all of it. I can tell 11 00:01:18,733 --> 00:01:20,613 Speaker 3: you that much. That means relic in Spanish. 12 00:01:20,653 --> 00:01:21,773 Speaker 4: But ah, well done. 13 00:01:21,893 --> 00:01:23,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's about you know. 14 00:01:23,213 --> 00:01:26,333 Speaker 4: That is the thing with this album. It is is 15 00:01:26,333 --> 00:01:29,133 Speaker 4: her fourth album. It's very different to her first three. 16 00:01:29,133 --> 00:01:32,933 Speaker 4: Her first three albums followed this kind of traditional pop structure. 17 00:01:32,973 --> 00:01:35,373 Speaker 4: There were hip hop bangers and there were dance bangers. 18 00:01:35,813 --> 00:01:38,373 Speaker 4: And she's got this great voice. She was always mostly 19 00:01:38,853 --> 00:01:41,933 Speaker 4: singing in Spanish. She is one of the most popular 20 00:01:42,013 --> 00:01:44,533 Speaker 4: Spanish artists. I think she's got one of She's got 21 00:01:44,573 --> 00:01:47,213 Speaker 4: twelve number ones in her home country, She's one Grammys, 22 00:01:47,253 --> 00:01:51,333 Speaker 4: She's headline Coachella. Yeah, everyone knows of her. But this 23 00:01:51,453 --> 00:01:54,413 Speaker 4: album is the one where she's jettisoned all that and 24 00:01:54,453 --> 00:01:57,933 Speaker 4: she's just gone for it. This is fifteen songs, I 25 00:01:57,933 --> 00:02:00,973 Speaker 4: think eighteen on physical copies. It's split into four parts. 26 00:02:01,693 --> 00:02:07,253 Speaker 4: It's referencing ancient religions and sacred texts and saints and yeah, 27 00:02:07,253 --> 00:02:10,133 Speaker 4: she's singing in thirteen different languages. 28 00:02:10,693 --> 00:02:11,653 Speaker 1: Yea, as you do. 29 00:02:12,573 --> 00:02:14,973 Speaker 4: It's a whole lot. I tried listening to this in 30 00:02:14,973 --> 00:02:17,133 Speaker 4: an airport for the first time, and it was too much. 31 00:02:17,173 --> 00:02:19,093 Speaker 4: I could not take it in. Too busy. She said. 32 00:02:19,173 --> 00:02:23,613 Speaker 4: This is her rejection of TikTok culture, of playlist streaming culture. 33 00:02:24,093 --> 00:02:25,773 Speaker 4: She wants you to listen to this as a full 34 00:02:25,813 --> 00:02:28,973 Speaker 4: body of work in a darkened room with fifteen minutes. Jack, 35 00:02:29,053 --> 00:02:31,413 Speaker 4: I'm a dad with two kids. I don't get fifteen 36 00:02:31,413 --> 00:02:34,213 Speaker 4: minutes in a darkened room to myself. But I did 37 00:02:34,293 --> 00:02:35,693 Speaker 4: give it a go. I listened to a few songs, 38 00:02:35,693 --> 00:02:38,573 Speaker 4: and it does connect more when you do that. 39 00:02:38,853 --> 00:02:41,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you can actually focus on it 40 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:41,613 Speaker 3: as it were. 41 00:02:41,853 --> 00:02:43,533 Speaker 4: Aha, Yes, because. 42 00:02:43,973 --> 00:02:46,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean she's like, I am not someone who's 43 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:47,973 Speaker 3: known for being up with the cool music, but I 44 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:50,333 Speaker 3: have listened to a bit of Roslia over the years, 45 00:02:50,373 --> 00:02:52,573 Speaker 3: and she is a bit of a kind of unique entity. 46 00:02:52,613 --> 00:02:56,093 Speaker 3: But it feels like she's at the apex of the 47 00:02:56,133 --> 00:02:59,573 Speaker 3: Spanish language music movement at the moment. 48 00:02:59,693 --> 00:03:00,533 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 49 00:03:00,773 --> 00:03:03,933 Speaker 4: Her and Bad Bunny, I yes say, are right up there, 50 00:03:03,973 --> 00:03:07,413 Speaker 4: not just not just in Spain, but like around the world. 51 00:03:07,613 --> 00:03:07,813 Speaker 1: You know. 52 00:03:07,893 --> 00:03:11,573 Speaker 4: Bad Bunny, I think, has topped the Spotify streaming charts 53 00:03:11,613 --> 00:03:12,853 Speaker 4: three of the last five years. 54 00:03:12,973 --> 00:03:13,253 Speaker 3: Wow. 55 00:03:13,933 --> 00:03:17,493 Speaker 4: Huge, She's headlining the super Bowl. Yeah, of course he's massive. 56 00:03:18,053 --> 00:03:20,973 Speaker 4: Rosalia is massive. Like I said, I streamed her coach 57 00:03:21,013 --> 00:03:25,093 Speaker 4: Alli set and magnificent. You know, the language barrier doesn't 58 00:03:25,173 --> 00:03:27,933 Speaker 4: really matter. You can feel the intention and emotion behind 59 00:03:27,973 --> 00:03:32,133 Speaker 4: the music. My problem with this album, which has been 60 00:03:32,773 --> 00:03:37,373 Speaker 4: widely praised by almost every credit ninety seven percent on Metacritic, 61 00:03:37,413 --> 00:03:40,933 Speaker 4: it is one of the highest rating albums of the year. 62 00:03:42,373 --> 00:03:44,493 Speaker 4: I've got a bit of a different take, and that 63 00:03:44,653 --> 00:03:48,653 Speaker 4: is that this is an album you can admire. It's 64 00:03:48,733 --> 00:03:53,133 Speaker 4: really hard to enjoy it. Yeah, there's no bangers, there's 65 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:56,133 Speaker 4: very little kind of the trap beats, there's no kind 66 00:03:56,133 --> 00:03:58,893 Speaker 4: of pop song. She's recorded with the London Symphony Orchestra 67 00:03:58,933 --> 00:04:02,453 Speaker 4: and often it's just the orchestra and her voice, which 68 00:04:02,493 --> 00:04:07,053 Speaker 4: is stunning. Yeah, but it feels like someone's on a 69 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:14,293 Speaker 4: stage doing showhands, belting out these operatic anthems at you. Yeah, 70 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:16,453 Speaker 4: but you can't see what's happening on stage. 71 00:04:16,693 --> 00:04:16,853 Speaker 2: You know. 72 00:04:16,893 --> 00:04:18,933 Speaker 4: It's like a movie that you're listening to the soundtrack 73 00:04:18,973 --> 00:04:20,173 Speaker 4: of that you haven't seen. 74 00:04:20,133 --> 00:04:23,493 Speaker 3: As harder to connect as a result. Yeah, that's it. 75 00:04:23,613 --> 00:04:25,573 Speaker 3: That's really interesting because even when we were just playing 76 00:04:25,573 --> 00:04:29,293 Speaker 3: that song, it like I was like, is this is 77 00:04:29,333 --> 00:04:31,373 Speaker 3: the is the chorus coming up here? What's happening? Like 78 00:04:31,573 --> 00:04:33,533 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that, I'm waiting for a catchy bit. 79 00:04:33,773 --> 00:04:36,133 Speaker 3: And it was like, oh, it's beautiful sounding, but it's 80 00:04:36,133 --> 00:04:38,133 Speaker 3: not necessarily something that's going to stick in my head. 81 00:04:38,213 --> 00:04:40,973 Speaker 3: And if you are a pop musician, maybe I don't know, 82 00:04:41,373 --> 00:04:42,373 Speaker 3: maybe it's nice to do that. 83 00:04:42,973 --> 00:04:48,213 Speaker 4: No, it's really interesting because here in Altero we you know, 84 00:04:48,293 --> 00:04:51,213 Speaker 4: bad Bunny is playing Australian. Yes, yeah, he's not coming here. 85 00:04:51,293 --> 00:04:52,693 Speaker 4: And there's a reason for that. I was at an 86 00:04:52,693 --> 00:04:55,413 Speaker 4: events conference with Live Nation, the biggest touring company in 87 00:04:55,413 --> 00:04:58,093 Speaker 4: the world, and they said that that kind of music 88 00:04:58,853 --> 00:05:03,773 Speaker 4: hasn't really connected. Maybe that's because our population base is 89 00:05:03,773 --> 00:05:07,133 Speaker 4: too small. We don't have enough Spanish speaking residents to 90 00:05:07,413 --> 00:05:10,693 Speaker 4: fill I mean, these artists are at stadium levels they 91 00:05:10,693 --> 00:05:14,133 Speaker 4: are huge, so to come here that they wouldn't be 92 00:05:14,173 --> 00:05:16,693 Speaker 4: able to do that because we just don't have that audience. 93 00:05:16,813 --> 00:05:18,773 Speaker 3: Interesting, Hey, before we let you go on, before we 94 00:05:18,813 --> 00:05:21,893 Speaker 3: give us a rating on lucks from ROSSLA, actually do that. 95 00:05:21,893 --> 00:05:25,293 Speaker 3: They do do the rating first. So Medico gets his 96 00:05:25,373 --> 00:05:27,613 Speaker 3: ninety seven percent. Everyone's giving it five stars, but Chris 97 00:05:27,613 --> 00:05:31,733 Speaker 3: Shultz is actually six. Okay, No, we appreciate that. We 98 00:05:31,773 --> 00:05:32,773 Speaker 3: appreciate the honest. 99 00:05:32,613 --> 00:05:34,453 Speaker 4: I feel bad though, I feel bad about that. This 100 00:05:34,573 --> 00:05:37,333 Speaker 4: is good. It might go up with more lessons, but 101 00:05:37,413 --> 00:05:39,533 Speaker 4: I need that time in a darkened room to myself. 102 00:05:39,613 --> 00:05:41,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally get it. This is good. 103 00:05:41,373 --> 00:05:46,413 Speaker 4: This is good Oasis, Holy wow. I was worth every 104 00:05:46,493 --> 00:05:49,533 Speaker 4: since because of the fans. Yeah, one hundred percent. Because 105 00:05:49,573 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 4: of the fans. The happiest, the drunkest fans I've ever seen. 106 00:05:53,093 --> 00:05:55,613 Speaker 4: I didn't see a single push or shove or argument. 107 00:05:55,653 --> 00:05:59,853 Speaker 4: Everyone was just over the moon, this thing happening that 108 00:05:59,893 --> 00:06:02,573 Speaker 4: they never thought would happen. It was the biggest song 109 00:06:02,773 --> 00:06:05,493 Speaker 4: a sing along you've ever seen. I've never seen that 110 00:06:05,533 --> 00:06:07,893 Speaker 4: many people together in a stadium before, and I've never 111 00:06:07,933 --> 00:06:12,053 Speaker 4: seen that many people just so happy that I'm hilariously happy. 112 00:06:12,093 --> 00:06:14,813 Speaker 4: I saw these two big, burly guys during Roll with It, 113 00:06:15,173 --> 00:06:18,093 Speaker 4: sing every word, hug each other for ages, and then 114 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:20,013 Speaker 4: I just watched one of them lean into his ear 115 00:06:20,053 --> 00:06:21,453 Speaker 4: and go, I love you man. 116 00:06:24,293 --> 00:06:27,493 Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, OK, yeah, see that probably isn't gonna 117 00:06:27,493 --> 00:06:31,253 Speaker 3: happen with lux from Us, but that's all right, but 118 00:06:31,573 --> 00:06:35,573 Speaker 3: perhaps tending to different taste. Hey, thank you so much. 119 00:06:35,613 --> 00:06:37,893 Speaker 3: I'm glad that you had a wonderful time last weekend. 120 00:06:37,933 --> 00:06:40,493 Speaker 3: I was certainly burning with MB after we spoke, so 121 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:43,213 Speaker 3: I'm really pleased that it lived up to your expectations 122 00:06:43,213 --> 00:06:45,933 Speaker 3: on that front. We will pick another song to play 123 00:06:45,973 --> 00:06:47,973 Speaker 3: you from Rosalia's new album in a couple of minutes, 124 00:06:48,013 --> 00:06:50,493 Speaker 3: maybe something that is a bit interesting, and we will 125 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:52,013 Speaker 3: catch you again very soon. Of course. You can find 126 00:06:52,093 --> 00:06:56,373 Speaker 3: Chris Shultz on his substack. 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