1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store news Dogs. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning and welcome to your Friday. It 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: is great to be with you this morning. Lots to 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: get through. Another one has bitten the dust. This is 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: pan Pack, a Kiwi timber manufacturer. They've had to hold 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: their pulp production. And this is Hawk's Bay energy prices. 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: We're talking about that again and what can the government 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: actually do about it. That's at five twenty, although we 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: may be moving interviews around again this morning because Elise 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: Andrews is going for Gold and the women's care and 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: this is cycling. The final is going to take place 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: sometime inside the next half an hour and will take 15 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: you there live and after five thirty persons really angry. 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: Things aren't going well for him. The Ukrainians have come 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: across the border into the Kurtsk region and despite him 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: saying that they've managed to push them back, apparently it's 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: all lies. We'll look into that. Two seven after five. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: The agenda. 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: It is Friday, the ninth of August. Another gold in 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: the bag. Overnight, Lisa Carrington and crew have pushed past 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Germany in the women's K four final, claiming another KIWI 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: gold medal by less than a second. 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 4: The bows are now back in front for New Zealand. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 5: It's Carrington lifting the. 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: Right, the black boat keeping its nose in front of Germany. 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 4: They can see the finish line. 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 6: It is gold for New Zealand. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: Fantastic. And Elise Andrews has won the track cycling semi. 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: She'll be competing for gold in the final against Mexico 32 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: and Great Britain will cross live for that very shortly. Also, 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: the inter island of Ferry at Teddy is out of 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: service again after heaving a link span while docking and 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: Wellington KiwiRail says overnight repairs are underway to the damage, 36 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: which is above the water line. It's expected the addit 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: Teddy will return to the service a full service over 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: the weekend. It's eight after five. 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a playing store. 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: News talk z It'd be. 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: I love listening to Neva and the news just after 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: five o'clock, calling that what did she say, a slight 44 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: bump to the link span or a slight incursion onto 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: the link span. The media is saying crash. What do 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: you say? Is this a media beat up? You would 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: have seen it on the news last night, and no doubt, hey, 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: you may not have seen this. This is from the 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: Herald this morning, and it's music to my ears because, 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: like most Auckland as, I hate Walkland Transport. I just don't. 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: I just don't like the organization. I think it's useless. Plus, 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: whenever you get a fine or a ticket for parking 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: in the wrong place, it's got their name on it 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: at the band. The branding's all bad anyway. Auckland meyor 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Wayne Brown wants to quote de throw Auckland Transport. He 56 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: wants to strip away the unelected board members the powers 57 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: that they've got and put elected representatives in full control 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 2: of this so that it's not just faceless men doing 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: and women presumably doing the dirty work. He's outlined his 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: intentions for reforms in an exclusive statement to the Herald today, 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: So go and pick up your heralds. We actually have 62 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: counselor Daniel Newman on the show to talk about the 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: water reforms just before six, so we'll hit him up 64 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: with what are his thoughts on what Wayne Brown is saying. 65 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: It's just gone nine after five, lots more to come. 66 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: The first word on the News of the Day early 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 68 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: beds and a play a store. 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be just gone eleven after five year. 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: On news Talk said be great to have your company 71 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: this morning. Nine two nine two is the number to 72 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: texts right now. Children's Minister Karen Shaw has handed Udanga 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: Tamadiki a new set of instructions to keep the agency 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: accountable and transparent. She's outlined five new measures she expects 75 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: to be reported on every quarter. They include things like 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: how many children in care access a social worker in 77 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: a two month period. Addressing youth offending, she wants to 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: see a fifteen percent cut in the persistent offending. The 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: Blue Light Operations manager Rod Bella is with us this morning. Rod, 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, thanks for being on the program. You're obviously 81 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: your charity does do great work. You run youth camps 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: and programs and support with alongside police for young people. 83 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: I just wonder with all the cuts that the government's 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: making at the moment. Have you guys been affected by those. 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 7: We have been a little bit, but you get on 86 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 7: and you continue to make a positive impact. At least 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 7: we have lost some of our programs. You know, we've 88 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 7: shown that our programs have an investment of seven dollars 89 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 7: tens every dollar invested, so that that does has impacted us, 90 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 7: but most importantly it impacted some of our services. 91 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what does it meant for your services? What have 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: you had to cut back? 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 7: It's probably unfortunately in the proactive area. So are we 94 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 7: still doing a lot of work with young people who 95 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 7: have been in trouble and working to make sure that 96 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 7: they get back and get into work and get into 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 7: more positive outputs. But some of the programs which are 98 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 7: before young people get into trouble as the ones that 99 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 7: have been affected, which is really would much prefer to 100 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 7: see that happen before they get in trouble rather than 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 7: wait to work with them once they are. 102 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: So coming to these goals that the ministers set for ot, 103 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, fifteen percent reduction in young people serious persistent offending. 104 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: I mean the fact that you've had funding cut to 105 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: a program that's going to achieve exactly that outcome seems 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: counterintuitive to me. 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it does. Look I think the outline measures are 108 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 7: pretty basic in a way, and they should be what's 109 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 7: been written. It should happen automatically. You would think there's 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 7: nothing in there I see of particularly complication. We all 111 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 7: want our kids to wake up healthy and safe and 112 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 7: well and not none of them get hurt and be 113 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 7: well looked after if they have to be in care. 114 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 7: But you know, the fifteen percent reduction, that's great. Sometimes 115 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 7: figures are figures. I think what you need is to 116 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 7: have people feel in the community that we're safe. 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Rod, thank you so much for that. Rodboll, 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: the operations manager at Blue Light, responding there to Karen 119 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: Shaw's direction for auditing a tamadiki, The time is fourteen 120 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: after five year on news Talk, said b and we 121 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: are going live to the track cycling the women's Karen 122 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: Final with Elise Andrews, who was first in the semi finals. 123 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: Here it is. 124 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: Followed out by the. 125 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: German Hinds up. 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: And then she has in the field the Dutch rider 127 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: Hetti Fundeval, as well as the Mexican Daniella Haxola Gonzalez. 128 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: Katie Marchant of Britain and Emma Finucan of Britain who 129 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: have already proved their pedigree, and the team sprints. Of course, 130 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: Andrews getting the silver there with their teammates, but the 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: Brits powering home for gold, particularly Finucan, who will be 132 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: of major concern. They come around now four laps to go, 133 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 4: the journey rider just getting up to pace, a bit 134 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: of jostling at the back. Already it's Andrews is currently 135 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: and second as the journey leaves the track, and she holds. 136 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 5: That second spot from over. 137 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: The Mexican goes to the front, Gonzales and the Dutch 138 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 4: rider front of her is in third. But Andrew's just 139 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: in the one one if you like. She's moved up 140 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: to the front. Now sixty five kilometers in our two 141 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: laps to go. 142 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 5: They work their way round to the back straight. 143 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: Andrew's still in front, but she's got to hold it, 144 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: Elise Andrews. You hear the bell A lap to go now, 145 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: Elise Andrew's on the inside and up, but she's got 146 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: the brick coming around. 147 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: It's like I said, in the form of Finuken. 148 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: The power goes on can Alise Andrews holders she comes 149 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: down towards the finishing line. 150 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 5: Alise Andrews on the line. It looks like she's one gold. 151 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:40,479 Speaker 4: Alease Andrew's intense, incisive, invincible at the Paris Valodrome. 152 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: Too much power and too much panache. 153 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: She is triumphed and she is elated. 154 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 5: She pumps her fists in. 155 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 4: The air, black gloved fists, and the crowd respond that. 156 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty 157 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's 158 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: Furniture Beds and a Planet Store news talk. 159 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Si'd be huge. Congratulations to Elise Andrews who has taken 160 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: gold this morning in the women's care and final. She 161 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: held the lead over the last two laps and she 162 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: beat Mexico and Great Britain. Well done, congratulations. Nineteen minutes 163 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: after five now and we're looking at energy. The Finance 164 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: Minister along with the Energy Minister are looking at urgent advice. 165 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: What can we do about this wholesale electricity price spike 166 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: which has just gone through the roof. I mean it's nuts, 167 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: really when you talk about the numbers sitting at around 168 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: seven hundred dollars per megawatt in late twenty twenty one, 169 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: it was at around one hundred dollars per megawatt. As 170 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: a result of these prices, multiple large scale businesses are 171 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: halting their operations. Actually the latest is pan Pack in 172 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: Hawke's Bay forest products they do. They export pulp product 173 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: to India and China. They've halted their operations. Cost of 174 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: electricity outweighs profit. Joining me is Energy Resources Altered. Chief 175 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Executive John Carnegie, John, good morning, Good morning. First of all, 176 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: why is it that we that the spike is happening 177 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: and not happening in other places like in Canada for example. 178 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: And it's interesting looking at pan Pack they point to 179 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: Canada their biggest competitor in terms of the products they're making. 180 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: Their electricity index WHENT up twenty percent since twenty eighteen. 181 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: Ours is up two hundred percent. 182 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 8: Well, look, I guess what we're seeing in Actually the 183 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 8: most painful way is how reliant our economy is on 184 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 8: natural gas and how important you know, you probably wonder 185 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 8: why I'm talking about natural gas for electricity, but how 186 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 8: important it is to our electricity system. About twenty percent 187 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 8: of our produced gas is used in the electricity market, 188 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 8: and about ten percent of all electricity generator using the 189 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 8: users gas and of course that might be used to 190 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 8: your listeners, but it's a real problem if gas production reduces, 191 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 8: which it has been quite dramatically, and when you combine 192 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 8: that with extremely low lake levels, you know, we've got 193 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 8: some of the driest conditions we've ever ever seen, combined 194 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 8: with insufficient gas five power stations which are used to 195 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 8: hold the system together when the lakes are low. Well, 196 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 8: then I guess you'd call that the perfect storm. 197 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: What do you know the government's looking at things like 198 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: importing AL and G. What do you make of that? 199 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 7: Oh? 200 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 8: I think aling is probably a very useful backup option, 201 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 8: but there are a range of other solutions that I 202 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 8: think that they should also be working on as well. 203 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: How long just on aller G, How long before we 204 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: would actually see that if we started importing it making 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: a difference here to that market? 206 00:11:55,400 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 8: I mean, it's that's quite quite difficult to answer, but 207 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 8: I think you're talking you're talking around about twelve months, 208 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 8: twelve after eighteen months possibly and it's not an insignificant 209 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 8: piece of investment. You know, we're talking hundreds. 210 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,359 Speaker 7: Of millions of dollars. 211 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 8: But you know, one of the solutions I think if 212 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 8: you're wanting to help bring down prices back to long 213 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 8: run averages, is actually just getting more gas into our system, 214 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 8: natural gas, and that's actually most likely probably going to 215 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 8: come through our existing gas producers who have the infrastructure, 216 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 8: the workforce and the knowledge, but actually just need assurances 217 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 8: from the government that their investments aren't going to be 218 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 8: undercut by future government policy changes like they were in 219 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 8: twenty eighteen. 220 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: But that's the hard thing, right, I mean, it's a democracy. 221 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: We vote people and we vote them out, and when 222 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: the next labor lot come in, I mean, you know, 223 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: you saw what they did last time. So how can 224 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: businesses have confidence to invest? 225 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 8: Well, I guess that cuts to one of the solutions 226 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 8: that I'm going to propose and have been proposing, and 227 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 8: that's us working our way back to political bipartisanship to 228 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 8: ensure in New Zealand's energy security. Frankly, we should never 229 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 8: be putting our country in this situation where we can't 230 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 8: take care of our people. Industries closing and communities being 231 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 8: devastated by job losses is not a part of an 232 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 8: energy future, thankfully, that I thought I would ever see 233 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 8: and I hope never to see again. Actually, this isn't 234 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 8: a political game. Actually, this is about livelihoods and jobs. 235 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: John, Thanks for your time. John Carnegie, the Energy Resources 236 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: out to ARCHIEV executive saying we need bipartisanship when it 237 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: comes to our electricity sector. He's got a point, doesn't 238 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: he need? You need confidence. Businesses need confidence to invest 239 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: in order to make sure that the demand is met 240 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 2: so that we're not in this mess every time the 241 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 2: hydrolate levels are down. It is twenty four minutes after 242 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: five the. 243 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: Early edition full the show podcast Todd Radio Power by 244 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: News Talks at Me. 245 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: It has just gone twenty six after five. We live 246 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: in a world that seemingly, seemingly is spilling over with 247 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: hate and division at the moment. You don't have to 248 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: look far to find it. Just in the past few days. 249 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 2: Look at this nineteen year old isis inspired terror suspect 250 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: planning to kill himself and as many Taylor Swift fans 251 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: as possible. You've got rioting, You've got division on the 252 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: streets of UK. Australia has raised its terror threat level. 253 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Remember that sixteen year old teenager who stabbed a religious 254 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: cleric in Australia suspected religious extremism. Behind it. You've got Trump. 255 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: Remember this was only last month. Yeah, it's almost like 256 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: we've forgotten about that, isn't it, Because there's so much 257 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 2: going on. They all have one thing in common, the Internet. 258 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: You know, this nineteen year old Isis would be mass murderer. 259 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: He and his two alleged teenage accomplices. They were serious. 260 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: They had chemical explosives, they had detonateds. Allegedly, they were 261 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: radicalized online. The UK riots fueled by false information about 262 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: that stabbing suspect. They were all raked up, fired up 263 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: by being on the internet. Where did it all happen online? Australia? 264 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: Remember those seven teenagers arrested in April for alleged extremist ideology. 265 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: All happened online. I could go on, but you get 266 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: the point. Young impressionable minds, endless scrolling on social media 267 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: and the wild West of content. Every kid has a 268 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: mental health problem these days. If you noticed that, turn 269 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: on the news. Everyone's sad and why well, it's obviously, 270 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: isn't it the Internet? Isn't it our phones? And what 271 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: are we doing about it? And this is what happens 272 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: when you scroll on a phone and you don't and 273 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: you argue with somebody and you don't look them in 274 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: the eye. You know, you don't talk to them face 275 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: to face. You don't moderate your thoughts with body language 276 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: and facial expressions and all those important things that I 277 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: think help to make our debates a bit more human. 278 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: We lose all that when we go online and when 279 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: we scroll endlessly. Apparently we will spend between ten years 280 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: ten to seventeen years of our lives scrolling on our phones. 281 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: How sad is that? And for kids it's worse. So 282 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: on what have I done about it? Well, I've deleted 283 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: the apps on my phone, the social media apps, and 284 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: not that I'm saying I'm going to solve the world, 285 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: but I'm just seeing if I'll feel better about the world. 286 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: And I wonder why more people aren't doing it. Maybe 287 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: you are nine two nine two is the number to text. 288 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: Here's a do we have time for this? 289 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 8: Leah. 290 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: There's a guy called Tristan Harris has worked for Google. 291 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: He's what they call a technology ethicis This is what 292 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: he has to say about this issue. 293 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 9: The more moral outrageous language you use, the more inflammatory language, 294 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 9: contemptuous language, the more indignation you use, the more it 295 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 9: will get shared, So we are being rewarded for being 296 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 9: division entrepreneurs. The better you are at innovating a new 297 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 9: way to be divisive, we will pay you in more likes, 298 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 9: followers and retweets. 299 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: Isn't that sad thought? Twenty nine minutes after five, news 300 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: is next. We're going to Vincent mcavinie in the UK. 301 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: The latest on the state of emergency declared in the 302 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: Curse region of Russia. Also the latest on that Taylor 303 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: Swift concert cancelation. 304 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 305 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture bids and 306 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: applying store news Talk said. 307 00:17:55,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: B twenty four minutes away from six. As I mentioned 308 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: twenty four minutes away from six, I'm still getting the 309 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: hang of this job. I've been here a month, and 310 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: one of my goals for this week I'll share with 311 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: you is to try and read more of your text 312 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: messages out loud, because I do read them. I read 313 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 2: every single text message that comes in because I appreciate 314 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 2: the feedback and I always take it on board. But 315 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: now that I'm kind of getting the hang of which 316 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: buttons to press and when odd mistakes notwithstanding, I'm trying 317 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: to get to more of your feedback because there's really 318 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: good information that's coming in and I like this critique 319 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: that has come in this morning. Ryan, you referred to 320 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Lisa and Crewe who won this is the gold medal 321 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: this morning in the women's K four. The other names 322 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: don't get a mentioned. Quite right. I should have done 323 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: that and I will do it now. So alongside Lisa 324 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: Carrington in the K four gold medalists Alisha Hoskin, Tara 325 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: Vaughan and Olivia Brett. Congratulations to all of you. Also 326 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 2: to Elise Andrews who won in the Kiran final this 327 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: morning too. A good point and well done. Lots of 328 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 2: feedback coming in on people who've deleted their social media 329 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: accounts and are now free. Their lives are far improved, 330 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: so we'll read some of those out in the second. 331 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: Right now it is twenty three to six, Ryan Bridge, 332 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: Let's go to our reporters around the country. Calum Proctor 333 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: is in Dunedin, Callum is Wanaka. 334 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 10: Going to get a macers here morning, Ryan, Well, if 335 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 10: the locals have anything to do with it, probably not, 336 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 10: but really this decision lies with the district council. Now 337 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 10: the next phase of this proposed McDonald's and Watakah's set 338 00:19:55,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 10: to begin. The Queenstain Lakes District Councils, looking over at submission, 339 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 10: has received more than two hundred submissions from the public 340 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 10: on these restaurant plans. Submissions actually close today, but as 341 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 10: it stands, an overwhelming amount of residents say they are 342 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 10: against the idea. Their concerns include food waste pollution and 343 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 10: local outlets losing business. The council says that we'll review 344 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 10: all submissions before there's any hearings, and they say a 345 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 10: date on any decision can't be confirmed. 346 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Yet everyone's against it until you're going home from the 347 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: pub and you know you want to drive through. Thank 348 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: you caullum. How's the weather in Dunedin today? 349 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 6: A few spots a drizzle for us like Wins and 350 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 6: ten today, Claire Shereward's and Christchich Claire. It's been labeled 351 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: unquestionably the biggest party in Australasia and it's coming to 352 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 6: christ Chitch. 353 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: What is this? 354 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, this is a good Friday story. 355 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 5: Ryan. 356 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 11: New Zealand's biggest one day music festival, Electric Avenue, will 357 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 11: become two days next year at Hagley Park. About sixty 358 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 11: thousand people are expected over the two days February twenty 359 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 11: one and twenty two. There will be twenty international artists 360 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 11: forty local acts that spread across at four different stages. 361 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 11: Christ Church and Zed says the announcement's big for the city. 362 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 11: It expects visitors spending to top this year's six point 363 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 11: three million dollars. The lineup comes out next month and 364 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 11: for those wondering, I think this is interesting. Despite the 365 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 11: event doubling in size, ticket prices will only be about 366 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 11: thirty percent higher. 367 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: Well, there we go, and how's your weather today, Claire? 368 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: That's great? 369 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, we need to get past the wintry blast though 370 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 11: it's cold here rain ten degrees with one overnight. 371 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, and Max Tols and Wellington Max 372 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: the All Blacks tests there tomorrow night. How's demand looking, Yeah. 373 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 12: It's not clear exactly how many tickets have sold so 374 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 12: far for this test. Much against Argentina apparently, though we're 375 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 12: only at about two thirds full of the thirty four 376 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 12: five hundred cedars sky Stadium, about two thirds subdued, it 377 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 12: would be a fair way to describe demand. Not a 378 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 12: great look for the capital and for future tests here. 379 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 12: Although we do have the Bloder Cup game next month 380 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 12: that will probably sell out, but yeah, it possibly a 381 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 12: cost of living thing, possibly a wind st thing, possibly 382 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 12: a Wellington thing. 383 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: Also worth noting the All Blacks have actually a Wellington thing? 384 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: Does that mean what you don't like rugby? Bring? 385 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 12: I'm just here to bring you the doom and gloom 386 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,479 Speaker 12: from the Capitol Mate, Worth noting as well, the All 387 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 12: Blacks haven't actually won a game in Wellington since twenty eighteen. 388 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 12: I've seen them three times. I think my record is 389 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 12: a drawer and two defeats. If we don't sell out, 390 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 12: you know, the postnotes the crowd would be less than 391 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 12: the thirty three thousand who watched the All Blacks play 392 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 12: Fiji and San Diego, of which there was criticism. 393 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: Jeez, can't you just be happy on a Friday next 394 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: and you well, your fury is crashed. I can see 395 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: why you're upset. You know your feary is crashed. Your 396 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: speed bumps will slow you down once you get off 397 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 2: the fury. That's the right. 398 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 12: Weather's not looking great for golf tomorrow. 399 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: Rex told him that did we do with that? I can't. Oh, 400 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: it's not great. 401 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 12: Periods of rain, strong souther East tenth. 402 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 2: Fantastic and you've got to break me in too, Hey Neva, my. 403 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 13: Gosh, he is the you know, the groom reap in 404 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 13: the mix. I came running in the studio. I was like, 405 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 13: on a high, the gals have got gold this morning, 406 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 13: I'm on a high. It's Friday. Listening to MEXI cracks 407 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 13: me up. And then I'm thinking, man, I feel like, you. 408 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: Know, I'm quite depressed. Actually, I had to laugh this 409 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: morning at you said about the other teddy in the news. Oh, 410 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 2: I mean you see, I mean the news. Yes, it 411 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: was a low speed contact, not a crash. 412 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 13: I have to say. When I woke up early this 413 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 13: morning and I was just having a look at you know, 414 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 13: the what was online and the hero website, and when 415 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 13: I read that story about that, I was just I 416 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 13: was screaming. I was like, what is going on with 417 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 13: that utter teddy fairy? I thought I would probably you 418 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 13: and I would probably do a bit of driving. 419 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 420 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 13: Sorry for one of the guys who was just a 421 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 13: line in there saying, look this sucks because this you know, 422 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 13: someone was trying to get on there a passenger and 423 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 13: you know now they're being delayed until like later on today. 424 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 13: He said, I've been standing out here waiting in the wind, 425 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 13: and you can just imagine, you know, like in Wellington. 426 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 13: I thought, Oh, the poor person. 427 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he'll be as miserable as Max presumably. 428 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 13: Hey, I was just thinking, what did I was listening 429 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 13: to you saying about your you know, social media there? 430 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, well it's I mean you Well, it's interesting 431 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 2: so many people are texting and to say they cut 432 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: the social media out, and that just feel so much 433 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 2: happier about life. 434 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 13: I'm not on social media. I'm a ludd. 435 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: I don't know how. 436 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean. 437 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 13: I'm on Facebook, but I never I don't just to 438 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 13: see what everyone else. I never post, not on I 439 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 13: don't even know how to use TikTok do you call 440 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 13: it Instagram? 441 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: What do you call it? Nothing? Well, do you know 442 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: what the good thing is? You can't be radicalized, because 443 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: that's what's happening to everyone else. 444 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 12: Right, look at us now? 445 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: Everyone else is nuts, but us neither. We're not nuts. Hey. 446 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? The current? Well? The weather? Oh, 447 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: the weather? Should I do the weather? 448 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 5: Yes? 449 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 13: Scattered showers, fine breaks in between today's high fifteen here 450 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 13: in all Cliff. 451 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Neva. It is seventeen to six The news you. 452 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: Need this morning and the in depth analysis early edition 453 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: with Ryan Bridge and Swift City, New Zealand's furniture beds 454 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: and a playing store. 455 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: News Talk said B. Fourteen to six on news Talk 456 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 2: said B. This is a text from Ian who says, 457 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: I was just going to agree with your recent interviewer 458 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: interviewee bipartisan agreement on a number of areas, including energy 459 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: in New Zealand, because we need certainty for businesses to 460 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: invest so that we don't end up with the shortages 461 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: that we've got at the moment, which mean prices go 462 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: through the roof. He says, a small country like New 463 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: Zealand can't afford the kind of stuff ups that we 464 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: are now dealing with energy, health, education, roading, transport that 465 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: are all in the PIP, he says, and we should 466 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: have more by partisan agreement on how to deal with 467 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: and manage those things. Also, someone has said, Ryan, are 468 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: you're we're how often you mentioned the time you used 469 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: to do it on the AM show. How about you 470 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: talk about something other than the time, Sarah, thank you 471 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: for that message. It is thirteen to. 472 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 3: Six International correspondents with ends in Eye Insurance, peace of 473 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: mind for New Zealand business. 474 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: Our UK Europe correspondent is Vincent mcavini. He's with us 475 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: live this morning. A state of emergency has been declared 476 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: in the Curs region in Russia. Vincent, Yes, that's right. 477 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 14: This is a surprise attack that the Ukrainians have mounted. 478 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 14: We think about a thousand or so Ukrainian troops supported 479 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 14: by tanks and armored vehicles, cross the border from Ukraine 480 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 14: into Russia on Tuesday, and some three thousand people have 481 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 14: been evacuated due to ongoing military altercations that have killed 482 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 14: at least for people. According to this Rush Regions governor. 483 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 14: This has come as a surprise to the Kreminin. It 484 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 14: is highly embarrassing to Vladmir Pusin. Of course, two and 485 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 14: a half years ago he told his country that this 486 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 14: would be a limited, small operation in Ukraine, it would 487 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 14: be over quickly, and we're still here fighting and now 488 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 14: his own country is being invaded in a surprise attack 489 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 14: from Ukrainian troops. So quite a display of gumption and 490 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 14: ambition from the Ukraini users. 491 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: Certainly is Taylor Swift. These concerts that have been canceled. 492 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: Sounds like these suspicted attackers were very serious. 493 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 14: Yes, that's right. A nineteen year old who was arrested 494 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 14: on Wednesday apparently was planning to kill a large crowd 495 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 14: of people in a suicide attack a one of the 496 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 14: three concerts taking place in Vienna this weekend. Taylor Smith 497 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 14: was meant to be playing to one hundred and ninety 498 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 14: five thousand people over the three days. Those concerts have 499 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 14: all been canceled. Local media is reporting that the suspect 500 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 14: had stolen chemicals from his formal workplace, that he is 501 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 14: in the process of building a bomb, had materials to 502 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 14: that effect, that he was going to potentially use this device, 503 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 14: but also drive a car into crowds and potentially go 504 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 14: on a stabbing spree as well, So it would have 505 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 14: been horrific. It's very similar to the Ariana Grande attack 506 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 14: that took place here in the UK back in twenty seventeen, 507 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 14: where someone detonated a bomb at that concert venue as 508 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 14: a young young women and their parents were leaving, and 509 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 14: would have been a pretty horrific event. But so far, 510 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 14: Taylor Swift keeping the rest of the era's toll going. 511 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 14: She'll be back in the UK next week being Wembley. 512 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 14: She's got a record eight nights are sold out at 513 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 14: Wembley this summer, so she's coming back to do the 514 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 14: rest of those. 515 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty frightening there, and you can see why the 516 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: authorities have moved to close the concerts down. Thank you 517 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: so much for your time, Vincent. Vincent Mecavennie a UK 518 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: and Europe correspondent. It is eleven to six, Ryan Bridge. 519 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: The government's plan to replace the three Waters legislation has 520 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: been revealed. Council controlled water organizations will be able to 521 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: leverage up to five hundred percent five times. Basically, they're 522 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: operating revenues through the local Government funding agency and they 523 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: can body up with councils to do this. Councils not 524 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: necessarily even on their border, so the Commerce Commission will 525 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 2: oversee it to make sure there's appropriate investment, maintenance and 526 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: delivery of water infrastructure for consumers' long term. The Auckland 527 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: councilor Daniel Newman is with me this morning. Good morning, Daniel, 528 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: Good morning Ryan. What do you make of this? Is 529 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: this better than three Waters? 530 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 15: Yes? 531 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 8: It is. 532 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 15: It is because it keeps the assets within council. It 533 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 15: does provide a facility for borrowing to fund, and that 534 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 15: facility will be cheaper. It will put real pressure back 535 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 15: on councils in terms of ensuring appropriate governance of these 536 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 15: water entities. But I think it's a better model than 537 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 15: what was proposed by the previous government. 538 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: What does it mean in Auckland for water here, Well, 539 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: what it will mean is that water Care is able 540 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 2: to effectively borrow off. 541 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 15: The off the council's balance sheets, so that allows it 542 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 15: to be able to access more more debt. But you know, 543 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 15: it would be a cheaper borrowing facility, and that's quite 544 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 15: important because your borrowing capacity is restricted according to your 545 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 15: debt to revenue ratio. So at the moment, what would 546 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 15: happen if you didn't have access to cheaper debt You 547 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 15: would have to raise rights rates faster and faster in 548 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 15: order to ensure that you maintain a debt to revenue ratio, 549 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 15: which is you know, I don't want to be basically 550 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 15: be taxing my constituents just to meet a borrowing limits. 551 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 15: So I think it's a better option for for Auckland 552 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 15: is I think it will probably be a better option 553 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 15: for a lot of people around the country. 554 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they reckon you Can you know we're borrowing five 555 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: times what you're taken through your water rates? It would 556 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: double what the currents are most cecos would currently. Do 557 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 2: you do we need Does Aukland need to buddy up 558 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: with anyone else? 559 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 15: Auckland won't need to buddy up with anybody, and I'm 560 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 15: quite relieved about that. Auckland is big enough and ugly 561 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 15: enough to look after itself. But there will be councils 562 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 15: outside of the Auckland region who I'm sure will need 563 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 15: to buddy up. And that's not unworkable. It is complex, 564 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 15: but it is it is. It is a feasible option 565 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 15: if you can get that partnership relationship through a shareholder's 566 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 15: representative group. 567 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Daniel, very quickly in one word, can you answer this question? 568 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: Wayne Brown's gone to the Herald this morning saying he 569 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: wants to dethrone Auckland Transport, stripping away the unelected board members' powers, 570 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: putting elected representatives in full control. He wants to gut 571 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: the place. Do you agree with him? Yes, thanks for 572 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: your time. That is sick. That's Daniel Newman, the Auckland 573 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: councilor it is eight to six. 574 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: News and views you trust as done your Day. It's 575 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's 576 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 3: furniture beds and a flying store. News Talk said, be. 577 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: It is five to six. News Talk said, be Friday morning. 578 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Everyone loves Friday. The athlete that we need to talk 579 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: about this morning is a Dutch marathon swimmer. So ten 580 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: k's in the water. This is in the river Sin. 581 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: Two hours in the river Sin. She gets dehydrated. She's 582 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: the gold medal winner, so I suppose she can do 583 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: what she wants. But she got dehydrated, so she was thirsty, 584 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: so she drank the river Sin. She said, I needed 585 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: a refreshment, so I was like, I'll just drink the 586 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: river Sin. I don't care. It was nice. Other races 587 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: water tastes fishy sometimes, so there you go. She won, 588 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: so clearly it was worth doing. Mike Costing is here, 589 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: good morning. 590 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,479 Speaker 16: She'll be on a drip by tomorrow. 591 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 592 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 16: I mean all the other two one was it one 593 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 16: of ours or two of ours got sick? 594 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, and there were a colon So. 595 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 16: I suppose that it's the Olympics. 596 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: What's it matter? 597 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 16: I mean, you recover the young, their fit, healthy, drink. 598 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: A bit of pool water and when a gold medal. 599 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 16: Well, speaking of which, the water system. By the way, 600 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 16: I just want to expose you. I heard you earlier 601 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 16: on saying you read all the texts. 602 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: You don't. 603 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 16: I do, you do not? You have nothing but distain 604 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 16: for the audience and the texture. I just want to 605 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 16: expose that officially not true. What a fraud I thought. 606 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: I don't read them all out on air, but I 607 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: do read them, okay, fair enough, even the ones that 608 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: are you know. 609 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 16: If you say so so. Yeah, No, the water things 610 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 16: interest me because you can borrow five times. So a 611 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 16: couple of questions come out of that. 612 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I don't read all of them. I 613 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: knew it. Bustard, Well, there's a million things going on 614 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: in here. No, no, I know. 615 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 16: And when you said all the buttons I pushed, you 616 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 16: don't push any buttons. He doesn't do any pushed three 617 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 16: butter can tell the time and say good morning. Let's 618 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 16: let's be honest. 619 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: Don't make this job out to be harder than. 620 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 16: It really is. You know as well as I do. 621 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 16: This is a lark and someone's paying us money to 622 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 16: do it. 623 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 2: It's a joke. 624 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 16: Anyway, we will be looking at the water this Morning 625 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 16: and the five Times things you know? And does that 626 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 16: solve the problem? You know, just because you can borrow 627 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 16: a lot of money, does it actually fix the problem. 628 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 16: You know what I'm saying. 629 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 2: If you look at and I know they're too busy 630 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 2: reading the texts. 631 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 16: I know, because you love the weekend. You can't wait 632 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 16: to get out of here. 633 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: Go on, run Mike's with me next. I'll see you 634 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 2: on Monday, but not before I read every single text 635 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 2: that's coming in. 636 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: For more from News Talks B listen live on air 637 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you 638 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio