1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,573 Speaker 1: from News Talks, that'd be I know, I. 3 00:00:13,493 --> 00:00:15,693 Speaker 2: Know, I sound like I've drunk from the cool aid 4 00:00:15,773 --> 00:00:18,173 Speaker 2: this morning, but honestly, some of these stats just absolutely 5 00:00:18,213 --> 00:00:19,893 Speaker 2: blew me away. I'm going to give you one more 6 00:00:19,933 --> 00:00:23,093 Speaker 2: from that article. Okay, this is something I didn't properly 7 00:00:23,133 --> 00:00:26,293 Speaker 2: appreciate or understand until this week, and that's just how 8 00:00:26,413 --> 00:00:31,213 Speaker 2: inefficient it is to create energy by burning stuff. Right, So, 9 00:00:31,493 --> 00:00:35,693 Speaker 2: to power a car by burning petrol is only about 10 00:00:35,693 --> 00:00:39,253 Speaker 2: thirty percent efficient, which means that if you charge a 11 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:43,293 Speaker 2: car like an EV car, they are about two to 12 00:00:43,373 --> 00:00:47,733 Speaker 2: three times So it takes two to three times more 13 00:00:47,853 --> 00:00:51,333 Speaker 2: energy to power a car with petrol than it does 14 00:00:51,413 --> 00:00:54,813 Speaker 2: with electricity. Do you get that? So a standard combustion 15 00:00:54,893 --> 00:00:57,893 Speaker 2: engine needs two to three times more energy to power 16 00:00:57,893 --> 00:01:00,453 Speaker 2: it than an EV, which means that obviously, if you 17 00:01:00,493 --> 00:01:04,173 Speaker 2: could power an EV through solar, you would have an 18 00:01:04,213 --> 00:01:08,973 Speaker 2: incredibly efficient system. Cheeps of texts Jack. You do realize 19 00:01:08,973 --> 00:01:11,453 Speaker 2: there's not a lot of solder generation in winter, says Sharon. 20 00:01:11,493 --> 00:01:13,373 Speaker 2: We've lived totally off the grid for thirty five years, 21 00:01:13,413 --> 00:01:14,933 Speaker 2: so I know we're talking about it's not the silver 22 00:01:14,973 --> 00:01:17,053 Speaker 2: bullet you think. I don't think it's a silver bullet, Sharon, 23 00:01:17,653 --> 00:01:20,253 Speaker 2: especially in winter. But I do think that solar could 24 00:01:20,253 --> 00:01:23,773 Speaker 2: offset our energy costs in summer obviously a little bit 25 00:01:23,773 --> 00:01:25,693 Speaker 2: of the costs in winter, and that we could put 26 00:01:25,733 --> 00:01:27,453 Speaker 2: some of the money that we spend on our energy 27 00:01:27,453 --> 00:01:30,013 Speaker 2: costs in summer towards our bills in winter. Jack. If 28 00:01:30,013 --> 00:01:32,533 Speaker 2: we all went solar in the summer time and generate 29 00:01:32,573 --> 00:01:37,413 Speaker 2: heats of electricity, that would allow the big the likes 30 00:01:37,413 --> 00:01:39,613 Speaker 2: of Meridian to storm more water in the hydro lakes, 31 00:01:39,693 --> 00:01:42,373 Speaker 2: keeping the price down and supply good in winter, says 32 00:01:42,413 --> 00:01:45,413 Speaker 2: Sean Morning Jack LJ. Here, every new building in New 33 00:01:45,493 --> 00:01:48,053 Speaker 2: Zealand should have solar heating, no ifs or but imagine 34 00:01:48,053 --> 00:01:49,693 Speaker 2: how much it would help the government if they didn't 35 00:01:49,733 --> 00:01:51,933 Speaker 2: have to build more infrastructure to be overcharged by the 36 00:01:51,973 --> 00:01:54,693 Speaker 2: electricity companies. Ninety two ninety two is our text number 37 00:01:54,693 --> 00:01:56,613 Speaker 2: if you want to get and touch. Kevin Millon is 38 00:01:56,613 --> 00:01:57,253 Speaker 2: here this morning. 39 00:01:57,293 --> 00:01:59,253 Speaker 3: Kilder Kevin, Kilder Jack. 40 00:01:59,813 --> 00:02:01,333 Speaker 2: Have you got solo pig in my place? 41 00:02:02,373 --> 00:02:02,893 Speaker 3: I'm sorry? 42 00:02:02,933 --> 00:02:04,533 Speaker 2: Have you got solar panels at your place? 43 00:02:04,973 --> 00:02:07,853 Speaker 3: No? I haven't, No, No, you're on the. 44 00:02:07,813 --> 00:02:10,373 Speaker 2: Gorgeous Carbony Coast. Given there's no excuses. 45 00:02:10,413 --> 00:02:15,253 Speaker 3: Come on, that's right, No, that's true. Yeah, I just 46 00:02:15,293 --> 00:02:18,573 Speaker 3: haven't got light you up to now, I haven't been 47 00:02:18,653 --> 00:02:22,453 Speaker 3: moved to do it. Yeah, and I suppose at this 48 00:02:22,653 --> 00:02:26,453 Speaker 3: end of my life, I'm thinking, I mean, you're talking 49 00:02:26,493 --> 00:02:30,493 Speaker 3: about ten years from now, things happening, and I'm teking. 50 00:02:32,133 --> 00:02:34,853 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm not refuse to accept that for a moment. 51 00:02:34,893 --> 00:02:37,373 Speaker 2: You're you're, you're, you're as vital as I've ever been given. 52 00:02:37,453 --> 00:02:41,173 Speaker 3: Come on, yeah, I'm thinking that my issue that they 53 00:02:41,253 --> 00:02:43,813 Speaker 3: might ring a few bells with listeners as well. 54 00:02:44,093 --> 00:02:44,333 Speaker 1: Yeah. 55 00:02:44,413 --> 00:02:47,133 Speaker 2: Well, interesting that you're also talking about energy is slightly 56 00:02:47,173 --> 00:02:49,773 Speaker 2: smaller batteries. You've been frustrated by cell phone batteries. 57 00:02:50,373 --> 00:02:53,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm wondering when we can get we can 58 00:02:53,453 --> 00:02:56,813 Speaker 3: get solar batteries on our phones. I needed a new 59 00:02:56,853 --> 00:03:01,573 Speaker 3: battery for my iPhone eleven Jack. It's over five years old, 60 00:03:02,093 --> 00:03:06,773 Speaker 3: operating at only sixty five percent capacity. An Apple placement 61 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:08,933 Speaker 3: battery was going to cost about one hundred and seventy 62 00:03:08,933 --> 00:03:12,613 Speaker 3: five dollars, but a lot cheaper than buying a new phone. 63 00:03:13,413 --> 00:03:15,773 Speaker 3: So I went into my local phone agents where I'd 64 00:03:15,813 --> 00:03:19,133 Speaker 3: bought my phone, in the first place. We don't change 65 00:03:19,133 --> 00:03:22,933 Speaker 3: batteries here, but we can send it to the Apple workshop. 66 00:03:23,493 --> 00:03:25,893 Speaker 3: I said, how long will my phone be away? He 67 00:03:26,013 --> 00:03:33,173 Speaker 3: replied two weeks? I replied that's ridiculous, at which point 68 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:35,013 Speaker 3: the man might have come back with a number of 69 00:03:35,053 --> 00:03:38,493 Speaker 3: helpful responses, like, if you take your phone into the 70 00:03:38,493 --> 00:03:41,533 Speaker 3: workshub itself, they'll do it for you much quicker. I 71 00:03:41,573 --> 00:03:44,053 Speaker 3: don't know if that's true, actually, Jack, but it would 72 00:03:44,093 --> 00:03:47,373 Speaker 3: have been a helpful response. Another might have been year 73 00:03:47,453 --> 00:03:49,933 Speaker 3: two weeks is a long time. We could transfer most 74 00:03:49,973 --> 00:03:53,413 Speaker 3: of your day to day data over to a loan 75 00:03:53,573 --> 00:03:57,133 Speaker 3: phone if you like. Again, Jack, I'm not saying they 76 00:03:57,173 --> 00:04:00,253 Speaker 3: can do that, but that's what top level mechanics or 77 00:04:00,293 --> 00:04:02,893 Speaker 3: panel beaters do. If they need to take your car 78 00:04:02,933 --> 00:04:05,013 Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks, they give you a loan car. 79 00:04:06,853 --> 00:04:10,133 Speaker 3: If you were call him, that might have even said, 80 00:04:10,173 --> 00:04:12,613 Speaker 3: in a bit of a whisper, it won't be a 81 00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:15,133 Speaker 3: genuine Apple battery, but there's a place just down the 82 00:04:15,173 --> 00:04:18,333 Speaker 3: mall that will sell you an Apple copy, probably not 83 00:04:18,413 --> 00:04:21,693 Speaker 3: as good as the real thing, but cheaper, and they 84 00:04:21,773 --> 00:04:25,533 Speaker 3: change it while you wait. Again, I wouldn't expect to 85 00:04:25,573 --> 00:04:28,533 Speaker 3: hear that, but if they've given any of those three replies, 86 00:04:29,093 --> 00:04:32,293 Speaker 3: I might still have bought myn xiphone off them. But 87 00:04:32,413 --> 00:04:35,933 Speaker 3: all the Apple agent could say was it is what 88 00:04:36,093 --> 00:04:41,173 Speaker 3: it is, mate. I walked to the other shop and 89 00:04:41,213 --> 00:04:44,013 Speaker 3: the mall that sold the non genuine batteries. Yeah, my 90 00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:47,173 Speaker 3: battery was replaced for one hundred and twenty dollars, all 91 00:04:47,213 --> 00:04:48,773 Speaker 3: done in the time. It taught me to have a 92 00:04:48,773 --> 00:04:49,613 Speaker 3: cup of coffee. 93 00:04:50,733 --> 00:04:53,493 Speaker 2: It's such a funny system. May I've been frustrated by 94 00:04:53,533 --> 00:04:55,693 Speaker 2: exactly the same thing. And the thing I always have 95 00:04:55,773 --> 00:04:59,133 Speaker 2: to tell myself is that when you get to the 96 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:01,493 Speaker 2: point when you need a new battery in your phone, 97 00:05:01,693 --> 00:05:03,933 Speaker 2: maybe after say two or three years, probably three years 98 00:05:04,413 --> 00:05:07,773 Speaker 2: of use, the resale of your value, that the resale 99 00:05:07,853 --> 00:05:11,653 Speaker 2: value of your phone's probably not that great anyway, and 100 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:16,573 Speaker 2: so just having a non branded battery probably makes economic sense. 101 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:19,693 Speaker 2: Like I think, okay, so I do exactly the same thing. 102 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:21,293 Speaker 2: I go and get that. I go to the shop 103 00:05:21,373 --> 00:05:23,453 Speaker 2: on the mall that has the non branded battery, right, 104 00:05:23,693 --> 00:05:25,213 Speaker 2: And so it means that when I go into my 105 00:05:25,293 --> 00:05:27,653 Speaker 2: phone and say, oh, how's the battery going, they say, dinging, 106 00:05:27,733 --> 00:05:30,533 Speaker 2: ding ding. This is not an Apple battery and it's 107 00:05:30,573 --> 00:05:32,733 Speaker 2: a bit frustrating, and it's sort of the whole interface 108 00:05:32,773 --> 00:05:35,213 Speaker 2: is designed to make you feel sort of bad about 109 00:05:35,213 --> 00:05:38,333 Speaker 2: the whole thing. But I always think, well, my phone 110 00:05:38,373 --> 00:05:41,333 Speaker 2: is so old and crusty anyway that it's not going 111 00:05:41,373 --> 00:05:43,213 Speaker 2: to be worth match. All I really care about is 112 00:05:43,213 --> 00:05:45,333 Speaker 2: the utility and if the battery that I've got to 113 00:05:45,373 --> 00:05:47,173 Speaker 2: replace it, it's out of warranty anyway. So if the 114 00:05:47,173 --> 00:05:49,813 Speaker 2: battery that I've got to replace it works well enough, 115 00:05:50,013 --> 00:05:51,453 Speaker 2: then great, I'll just stick with that. 116 00:05:51,453 --> 00:05:56,173 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. Yeah, I'll tell you why that two weeks. 117 00:05:56,213 --> 00:05:58,253 Speaker 3: I mean, I think I'd rather be without MACA for 118 00:05:58,333 --> 00:06:02,373 Speaker 3: two weeks, yeah, than without my phone. That's ridiculously long 119 00:06:02,693 --> 00:06:05,533 Speaker 3: to change a battery. And I wonder to what extent 120 00:06:05,653 --> 00:06:08,973 Speaker 3: that is set like that so that people go, oh, 121 00:06:09,053 --> 00:06:10,453 Speaker 3: the hell with it, I'll buy another phone. 122 00:06:10,573 --> 00:06:12,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what I think too. And can I 123 00:06:12,973 --> 00:06:15,853 Speaker 2: say that if you are considering a new phone because 124 00:06:15,893 --> 00:06:18,013 Speaker 2: you get frustrated with yours and you haven't had the 125 00:06:18,013 --> 00:06:21,773 Speaker 2: battery replaced before, it is well worth just going and 126 00:06:21,813 --> 00:06:24,773 Speaker 2: replacing the battery. You'd be surprised at how much beatty 127 00:06:24,853 --> 00:06:26,853 Speaker 2: your phone sort of operates and stuff when it's got 128 00:06:26,893 --> 00:06:28,933 Speaker 2: a you know, and how much less frustrated you get 129 00:06:29,213 --> 00:06:31,613 Speaker 2: when you're not running out of battery it help us, 130 00:06:32,053 --> 00:06:34,693 Speaker 2: help us one in the afternoon and recharging it three 131 00:06:34,733 --> 00:06:37,453 Speaker 2: times a day. Can it can? Like honestly, it's like 132 00:06:37,453 --> 00:06:39,773 Speaker 2: a lick of paint, you know, really makes a whole. 133 00:06:40,173 --> 00:06:42,213 Speaker 3: That's a good, great way of putting it. Yeah. 134 00:06:42,333 --> 00:06:44,173 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad that you are glad that you didn't 135 00:06:44,173 --> 00:06:46,173 Speaker 2: send it away. Thank you so much, Kevin Now ninety two, 136 00:06:46,253 --> 00:06:47,893 Speaker 2: ninety two. If you've got thoughts on that, Jack, I 137 00:06:47,933 --> 00:06:51,493 Speaker 2: went solar nine months ago, says Pete. Brilliant quality German panels, 138 00:06:51,493 --> 00:06:54,253 Speaker 2: a Teesler battery. I don't think about how many years 139 00:06:54,253 --> 00:06:56,733 Speaker 2: it'll pay for itself, because it's already done that by 140 00:06:56,773 --> 00:07:01,693 Speaker 2: adding to the house value, saleability, the resale value. Thank 141 00:07:01,733 --> 00:07:02,493 Speaker 2: you for that, Pete. 142 00:07:03,053 --> 00:07:06,173 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 143 00:07:06,213 --> 00:07:09,093 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B from nine am Saturday, or 144 00:07:09,133 --> 00:07:11,053 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.